/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3581731
w-why RIP TVP?

>>3581743
>>3570036
nothing concrete but still sad

>>3581746
what are you talking man? be more specific.

>>3581750
read the post I linked you dude

>>3581756
oh shit my bad.
this is sad news...
I wonder if this is a good or bad time to buy version 11.
they might release it for free, if the company goes kaput.

How do professionals plan out a scene from start to finish?

>>3581746
I'm not surprised. It's had "poor management" since the fucking start. The worst part of TVPaint is the dongle, it's like they're actively trying to incentivize pirating their shitty software

>>3581803
Storyboards

what is sakuge animation and what is "forced animation"?

>>3581805
What's a dongle

>>3581820
It's a USB device that acts like a key. While TVPaint is open, you have to plug in your dongle or the software kicks you out

>>3581803
storyboards, iterations, and reference.

>>3581814
sakuge animation is when a segment/moment in an anime is drastically upped in animation quality for dramatic effect. forced animation is mostly a buzzword, it's when an animation is overly-animated, like too many keyframes for a simple movement. 99% of the time it's bullshit and extremely nitpicky

also i get that its an animation general and this is by no means no offense to you guys, but ive been seeing a lot of questions lately that could be easily answered by quick google searches, and would probably get you an answer faster than waiting for a random anon to reply to. its great to see people with genuine interest so keep asking, but its just odd to me to post such general questions.

>>3581834
human interaction is fun, even if it's thru an impersonal media like 4chin
let them post their /beg/ questions

>>3581848
i get that, and like i said, its great to see the interest and people asking questions. the questions are just more general and impersonal that i dont see much of a social benefit from them. like theyre simple "what is x" types of questions ya know?

maybe im just an autistic anti-social jerk idk, i just like efficiency

What ever happened to that Disney animation software used for Paperman?

>>3581858
Dunno, maybe they ditched it?

>>3582025
Isn't to open to the public, or well more open than it initially was? Wasn't some animators like Harry Partrige messing with it a while back? If I knew what it was called I wouldn't mind messing with it.

>>3581858
renderman?

Easiest animation program for a complete beginner? All of them look complex as fuck.

>>3582159
Krita by a fucking mile

What's the best animation software hands down? I've been using fucking flipnote studio for seven years

>>3582219
Krita by a fucking mile

is there any video out there on how to animate with krita, it feels like I'm just dicking around with the thing

>>3582213
I live this

>>3582159
>>3582219
flash

>>3581858
never released publicly
paperman was 95% 3DCG, rotoscoped
the innovation was that their software would use the movement of the 3D models in 2D space (the camera view) to automatically tween the drawn-over linework

>>3582227
There probably is. Just look, man.

One of the first things I think you'll want to do is change your next frame/previous frame hotkey to something intuitive like z and x, this lets you "flip" your frames easily while still having your hand mercifully close to those all-important "undo" keys.

Go to "settings > dockers" and you'll see all of the relevant windows for animation in Krita. To add a frame just right click on the timeline on a blank cel and select "create blank keyframe". Once a frame is created it is considered "exposed" until interrupted by a new frame.

You can change the range, opacity and color of your onion skin in that docker, you can change the color of keyframes in the timeline to separate inbetweens, keyframes and breakdowns if you want. You can control most of the important stuff by right-clicking on the timeline, everything's pretty self explanatory. Just mouse hover over the icons and they'll tell you what they do.

There is no "tweening" and it's still a little unstable but it's easily good enough to use for a beginner's practice. Good luck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VPwmFPp9Kk

>>3582159
tvpaint by far

https://youtu.be/lRTibCFBWHE
anyone here ever tried their hand at painted animations? any tips&tricks?

>>3582256

thanks mate

>>3582614
are you already comfortable with non animated digital painting?

my advice would be to start with structure as usual and then to block in the basic shapes with a couple of mid tones. after that add your details one by one (one detail on every frame before moving to the next detail.).

added more smoke on this one...

>>3582228
i see you couldn't decide between like/love... thank you! i live you too!
All done with this part. Moving on to the very next. Already I gotta revise some keyframes...

Im working on some airplane animations. does anyone have any good animated aircraft references (other than Ghibli)?

>>3582227
the krita part should be obvious desu but the animate part...

>>3583797
Wings of Honneamise

>>3583797
Ghibli

>>3583848
holy shit thanks

I made this and I think it's kinda funny.

https://youtu.be/cuHjimBLchg

>>3584286
It's pretty okay, I like how it doesn't end the way most internet skits end today, with you implying he's gonna shoot him and then something totally opposite happening

Yeah he shot him in the end that's it

>>3583704
Why do the eyes change colors

>>3584679
Because you touch you'reself at night xd

Messing with TB auto springs

>>3584866
i want to be make sex with bunni

>>3584871
Lood.

>>3584873
More spring

>>3584866
>>3584873
>>3584902
sweet.

Hey you seems to know a lot about toonboom. I need to learn how to animate a pre-rigged cutout character fast in toonboom. what do you think is the fastest way to learn? who has the best tutorials? I'm not new to animation just toonboom/rigged animation i just really need to learn the software

>>3584866
>>3584873
>>3584902

really really good work. i wish i wouldn't hate TB so much - i just can't wrap my head around it. do you know any good source to learn all about the software?

working on a short, but haven't done anything but lineart for these two scenes.
I'm really inexperienced with working on backgrounds and atmosphere, so I am pretty scared that it could sabotage the whole work. Any tips on how to make simplistic, yet effective backgrounds?

>>3584873
>30 seconds into the webm
had a good laugh my dude

>>3585492
Study cartoons that have simplistic backgrounds, like peanuts

>>3585492
I fucking hated backgrounds when I did my first short ( >>3559324 second link) but I think I managed to do something nice with tvpaint's watercolor tools
as long as there's some texture to it you'll be fine

>>3585492
Huff dude, coloring this might take away from how good it looks... if you decide on coloring this I'd suggest going with a very very light grayscale and backgrounds without linework with high emphasis on light shadows and if you really wanna go with background linework then use a darker shade of the shadow color

>>3585573
The background is supposed to be a dimly lit cabin, with a very few light sources, like candles. I was thinking of doing a simple background and then adding the light in after effects or something like that. The dudes skin in the gif is going to be light gray anyway.

>>3585538
Great shorts man, i really like the style. I can see why you would say you hated the backgrounds, but i think they add to the atmosphere.

>>3585245
>>3585266
There's some resources to learn rigging these days (the stuff in above is just my own years of experiments and I arleady know TB inside out). But really good rigging can be found in these two places:
Stylus rumble has two full rigs on her tutorial pages, as well as how to build them from ground up.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP7U2uqSXXcDCkMdqXsq_jQ/videos
Also toonbooms learn portal:
https://learn.toonboom.com/modules

>>3585500
qt

>>3585500
lmao

What are the best & most useful features you can think of that are lacking in 2D animation softwares? (Example : Cacani has an auto inbetween & auto coloring feature)

>>3586037
audio incorporation in Clip Studio Paint.

I would like for it to work similar to flash.

>>3583704
why are you not working in the anime industry?
your stuff is good enough to make it!

>>3585573
>Huff dude, coloring this might take away from how good it looks
it could look great moomin style, with a white character and colored backgrounds
>>3585601
>Great shorts man, i really like the style.
thanks!
> I can see why you would say you hated the backgrounds, but i think they add to the atmosphere.
yeah most people said similar things so I guess y'all are right haha
but you can still see that I wasn't very good at them, and that I didn't put much effort into them
Not every film has to be the best in every way, I think my style and storyboard saved me, and your style and natural movement could save you
I'll be looking forward to the finished film

>>3586112
>moomin style
I forgot to attach the gif

>>3586095
I'm, ahh.... Not actually very good at drawing. I might get how to animate but I'm not very confident in my overall drawing abilities. I'm lacking. It takes me awhile to get something out as a result. After this I'll make certain to work on my technical skills so that I can produce more.

>>3586040
That's a good idea.
Anything else?
(I'm asking about the best features not done yet because I'd like to put my CS & art skills to use)

>>3586122
Well Clip studio paint also lacks a transparency option for animated gifs. I'd very much like the gifs it outputs to have transparency as an option.

>>3586119
you can do it! i believe in you anon, you can improve your technical skills and make it! once your technical skills have risen and you are making a lot of stuff frequently slap it all into an animation reel and put it on youtube or vimeo so you can share your work and make it!

>>3586126
Thank you very much anon. Though I'm not certain if I want to get into the animation industry, I would very much like to aim for a quiz game for now, with well animated characters asking you a variety of things. I'll work on everything I have to work on during that I think. For now though I'll just focus on finishing this gift for a friend. Thank you very much for your best wishes, I'd very much like for you to be where you'd like to be in life too, if you have any similar ambitions I'd love to see your work be seen worldwide.

>>3586132
i would play your quiz game when you make it! thanks i'm aiming to get into the anime industry so i appreciate the kind words, the thought of having my work be seen worldwide makes me nervous but it's still everything i want so thank you. also here take this sports girl as a thank you gift!

does anyone here have the 3 frames used for this?
https://youtu.be/A3e2stGobpM
i wanna try it out

>>3586112
Yeah it would look great, just don't over saturate the colors

>>3586037
I'd love Krita to have Shift and Trace (or tapwari in nipspeak: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF-LpcXou6w)) so I can jump the TVPaint ship before it sinks.

>>3586226
Oooooh that's a great idea too! I can see how to handle it, making each selected points "slide" on an axis or curve... Thanks, it'll be a little brain heat, but it's definitely interesting!

Anything else?

experimenting with longer, rougher stuff

>>3586095
its not good at all
either samefag or /ic/ taste has really gone to shit with all you newfags in here now

>>3586574
The latter

>>3586549
nice

>>3586574
>>3586642
why would you say it's bad?

>>3586758
The shoulder should move when her hand makes that motion. It looks very unnatural with that kind of movement with a heavy object, consider the weight. There also isn't enough anticipation for the hand, and it leads into her breathing in to blow the trumpet to soon. Making it a little awkward and less readable. Space those two actions out, also consider making her hand play a note by having one finger push a note. It'll turn out nicer. I liked the anticipation you added to blow the trumpet .

>>3586821
we're talking about her right hand (our left), huh? That's the main problem?
I can do that I think.

>>3586829
Yes, her right hand that is behind the instrument. I still like the air puff anticipation though, keep it up.

>>3586758
The most glaring issue is that sudden whiplash forward. It just looks retarded.
The arm is too straight.
Torso anatomy is bad.
There's no sense of proper planning/flow.
The instrument remains perfectly the same perspective when the top changes perspective to show rotation and depth, you have to do both not just for the top only.
The one thing I will give note to you is the subtle hand movement onto the keys.

>>3586840
Thank you very much. I'll work on it real quick once I get home.
>>3586845
I'm fine with her moving silly. That was my intent after all.
You're completely right regarding the arms. I'm suppose to draw the sleeves with some folds and creases and stuff like that. At least a few.
regarding torso anatomy... I might be misunderstanding how you're seeing her naked bod under her clothes but miss Kumiko wears her skirt above her hips.
And I assure you... I did try to plan the frames out. I tried for a sort of quick eye-opening bit- where after her eyes have shut- for one frame her eyes would open so hard they'd be stretched out a bit- but in the next frame they would be normal. This is so I could have her eyes change from one type to another. Although in retrospect I could have just have switched them out after she dips her head down. But I still think it looks kind of nice.
I have no excuse for the euphonium. I'm being very lazy regarding it and it shows. Sorry. I'll draw more frames for it.

>>3586549
good but why are you using your time to animate yuri?

>>3587028
maybe he wants to become a hentai/yuri pornographer

Did a rotoscoping thing (Uni made it compulsory)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-REGKTk_f8
Learned a little how hair and clothing worked.
Still don't know about people though.

>>3582222
unironically this. I honestly think it's the most intuitive (much better than clip studio's).

>>3588436
can you bind the eraser to a keyboard key yet?

I wish i was this guy

https://www.jessecollett.co.uk/

>>3587028
why not?

Trying to figure out coloring right now. It's pretty annoying

Completed this a few days ago.

>>3589035
It's really nicely polished and the movement is good too

I guess the only thing I'd point isn't animation related at all its just that she should have looked more turned on, the way her expression is now it just seems like she's slowly twerking her butt and not riding a big fat dildo

>>3588884
None of that stuff is really that hard to make :/

>>3589035
Amazing shit.
>>3589193
I think her facial expression is fine. It's not retarded anime ahegeo shit which ruins alot of pictures.

>>3589035
stick to illustrating, you're not cut out for animating hun

bump, trying to find some motion blur to study

u guys ever get a mega hard on for an anime series and feel super motivated to animate? I wanna git gud but i know by tomorrow I'll be indifferent.

why are humans so fickle

>>3591124
People have been able to refine their art very well, what you saw is what discipline looks like. Learn to discipline yourself, get desperate.

>>3591127
nvm ive given up already. やっぱりできない。orz

>>3589537
I don't mean ahegao, just a bit more enthusiastic, or more of a blush

I mean don't get me wrong it's a masterfully done piece it's just that porn-wise it could be better with a few minor tweaks

I've been animating for 2 months, is this coherent to the viewer? I know I need to work on timing and anatomical dimensions

>>3591244
it doesnt make sense that he completely loses all momentum and stops dead before throwing a peace sign. at least have some slow in or overlapping reaction to the sudden stop. keep your arcs of motion in mind

Tried to do a quick timing study. The thumb on this is weird to me, can't figure out why it shrinks instead of looking like it is putting pressure on the pencil.

>>3591561
Also, I completely forgot. Is the underscore under the seven supposed to mean something, in-between or extreme? I always forget.

when animating straight ahead what is the best way to main the size of your drawings? i tend to animate straight ahead and stuff gets smaller as i go.

>>3591617
keep a ref closeby. draw on top of it it you need to.

>>3591619
i animate digitally, how would i do that in this case?

>>3591632
keep it on a seperate layer/timeline.

>>3591632
and make it a little transparent if you need to

>>3591633
>>3591637
thanks anons for the help

>>3591640
it's just me. the one anon. you're welcome.

>>3581731
>rip tv paint
toon boom was always better it's like the best parts of tv paint and flash and clip studio put into one program

>>3584873
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN-wSkLV9-c
made this

Where do you guys post your blogs?

Yeah, there's youtube, but do you use any other soc. media for more art-blog type stuff?

>>3592208
I've been using twitter.

>>3591640
>in one shot she clearly has a ponytail
>in another she clearly doesn't
unacceptable

>>3592286
youre retarded. its there its just hidden behind her head while the hair shoots out

>>3592289
If you look at the volume and form it does not match up, it's actually a fuckup.
Anime and retard cancers who like anime need to be hanged.

work in progress

Would anyone be interested in a thread where we individually animate the same storyboard? Might be fun

>>3592552
Do you even have an idea for a story?

>>3592552
yeah I sure would. Like /a/ draws but /ic/ animates?

>>3592560
Nope, haven't got one myself right now. just gauging interest
>>3592596
Yeah something like that

>>3592552
Yes like a short collab animation? Id be so up for that

>>3592115
lmao kys

>>3592552
yes.

>>3592552
I'd be up for that
If you need an animatic for that, I got one laying around that i probably will never get around to cause the person I was gonna do it with fucked up their elbow
https://youtu.be/voy7wiP9FNU
Here it is
Not trying to shoehorn my project into this, but if you guys like it let's do it

>>3592208
Twitter's cool cause people are keen to interact with artists they don't know
Just don't post things unrelated to art, it's annoying
I personnally love tumblr's interface and I love looking at an artist's work on tumblr, but people are shy to follow you if you're not a mutual's mutual or something like that
On fb you'll only get your friends and your grandma, but why not
I've heard insta's cool but you can only post on mobile so it doesn't interest me

>>3592552
I'm down.

>>3586095
>wanting to work in the anime industry as an outsider
that industry treats its animators as shit, imagine not being able to defend your self competently in japanese when you're given 180 hours a week

>>3592888
>>3592952
>>3593156
>>3593196
Alright then. I hope folks don't mind waiting on something like that if I were to start it, since this was really a spur-of-the-moment thought and I have nothing more than the idea right now.

>>3586095
Please tell me you're joking

>>3589557

Fuck off with the bait.

this genuinely looks good. The only thing i'm concerened with is how the white shine on her butt moves. But it's small so whatever.

>>3586549
The smearing for the hair started a bit too early, I mistook it for a volume inconsistency at first
Very solid otherwise

>>3589557
The motion is basic but everything else is top tier. I'd patreon him in a fap if I were a furry

I don't animate so idk if this is useful but here is Aaron Blaise animating in TvPaint
https://youtu.be/ST_PSIA1TvU?t=15m37s

>>3587545
Fucking good choice of scene to rotoscope, and well done, looks great.

>>3593253
Well you can start now
Make a thread about it, make a poll asking people if they'd like to animate anon's animatic, another custom made animatic, or just go without a plan,... things like that

>>3594357
I like the idea of improvising as we go. 5 seconds each with a general theme then we string them all together

still haven't corrected the thing i said i would have corrected. i'll go and do that once i wake up

>>3594439
>black eyes change into white eyes

Got bored animated this, no direction. Posting for the archive desu

>>3594512

>Volume changes
>Eye changes.
>Hand changes and grows.
>Loses her wrist.
>Skirt not tracked.
>Anticipation for an anticipation.
>Jarring one frame movements
>Arms locked with a heavy object.
>Some bad arcs
>Funky timing.

But I know Gusty is just going to do Gusty and that's okay.

>>3595131
what the h*ck is that suppose to mean

Stupid noob question: is there a good way to practice animation on paper without using hundreds of sheets?

>>3595139
You could draw it on the same page, like pic related, but to get the actual timing you'd need more than one sheet. Honestly, just get a tablet and krita.

>>3591561
Tried it again. Is this any better?

first time with traditional
don't have a scanner yet so sorry about the quality

>>3581731
>>3581731
I don't believe TVPaint will die.
I believe after 3d animation become over-used in everywhere (hollywood, advertisement, eastern - western animations etc.) 2d animation is becoming more popular since like 5 years. Here are some links to great 2d animations that used TVP. Also pic is my work.

https://vimeo.com/269233057
https://vimeo.com/132141441
https://vimeo.com/237333532

i'm getting used to animating in clip studio is their anyway to sync audio to my animations? as it does not have an inbuilt way to import audio.

>>3589035
Where did u learn to animate?

>>3595290
Tvpaint is a great software
But it's run by imbeciles, and that'll cause it's demise
I believe 2d animation will come back roaring, but maybe that's just wishful thinking. But it could come back with another software

I hope all you guys plan on fixing the western animation industry when you get jobs.

>>3595540
i do but there arent many jobs

>>3595540
i have lost hope in western animation all they care about is being progressive and having representation over the quality of the animation and the story

>>3595540
I honestly hope I just get a job

>>3595583
be come a freelance animator so you don't have to deal with any of the negatives of current western animation and so you can animate for anything meaning you can get more jobs

>>3595605
where do people even find freelance work? do i just message a ton people asking if theyre looking for freelancers? i dont have many contacts

>>3595540
I'm not from the west
Don't blow the Calarts cloud over to us once you're done toiling under its shade

>>3595627
Where do you live? Does your country produce anything worthwhile?

>>3595619
make a demo reel of your work, make yourself a website, get a professional email and then send your stuff out to as many people/studios as possible. call in studios as well and ask if they have any jobs needed for a freelancer, check animation forums, also use social media to promote yourself.

>>3595643
Hong Kong
Some folks over here are talented, but the market isn't about to change for us anytime soon. Manhua crashed years ago so animation has a real fat fucking chance of taking off.

>>3595689
Admittedly I haven't seen anything come out of China.

>>3595713
i'm not the same anon but here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhUlF8zVpOQ

>>3595290
>>3595523
Totally agree. Here is my colored animation made with TvP.

>>3595713
>Hong Kong
>China
Careful, huge autism trigger for some people here

anyway, here's something local:
https://youtu.be/lVx1tLFCP0w
older classics:
https://youtu.be/3KCoaOueF6o
https://youtu.be/OdNUlqQM174

>>3595868
>kou yoshinari

>>3595872
Muh appropriation, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>3595878
yeah the older brother of yoh yoshinari

>>3595164
Oh shit I didn't realize krita supported animation.
This makes life so much easier.

>>3595677
do you know any animation forum?

>>3581814
I personally believe that forced animation exists but in very rare cases. It all comes down to subjectivity in the way you think the movement should've looked in that particular scene to give off that particular feeling.

>>3582222
I can barely figure out how to draw with that piece of shit software

>>3581814
id class a lot of richard williams stuff as forced animation

>>3583704
I fell like the final key frame stunts it a bit, my expectations really want the character to move more outward as she's blowing into the tuba and it bugs me

>>3581746
>>3581746
Why still there is not a crack for TvPaint 11 if it's dying???

I assume it would be easier to crack it now. But can't find it nowhere literally.

>>3595166
i liked the first one more
i felt the form there stronger

edgy squash & stretch practice

I realized flipaclip watermarks are actually piss easy to bypass, just do "view frames" and save them individually, takes like a minute

keys and trying to figure timing out

Got into animation a few days ago. It's quite possible the hardest thing I've ever attempted to learn.

>>3594357
the issue with that is gonna be the same issue as with the my style/your style threads. I guarantee the first 10 replies are gonna be
>pay me
>I wouldn't draw anon's OC for free one time 2 threads over, but you want a free 5 second animation? fuck off
>fuck off

>>3597452
You're hugely ambitious for someone who just started
How about some ball bounces n flour bags and alll that?
>>3597565
Well if the people come from this thread they'll know the context, they'll know that anon just threw his animatic in here without expecting much, they'll know it wasn't his idea to make a collab... so i don't think it'll be like you say

>>3597329
Most people can't take their shirt off that smoothly or cleanly. I'd make it a little slower and have the shirt catch on the shoulders and head as it comes up.

>>3597638
You are right, that will look much better.

>>3581731
b-bros... ive been animating in CSP and only just now realized that there is no audio import... is there a solution? please dont tell me i have to move on, i love animating in this software and wasnt a fan of TVP

>>3598244
nigga just time your frames
how do you think they used to do it in traditional animation(which CSP is geared towards)

Some stuff i'm working on for a commission.

>>3598646
A render test with the lighting modules

>>3598244
Get Krita, it's free and has audio support.

>>3598656
It does?

Made a music video for my buddy, took me the whole summer, thoughts and critique?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFAq0ADUPew

do i suck balls?

>>3598892
updated version. I know it seems like very little effort but I spent all day on it

>>3599038
It's adorable.

>>3598918
i really don't understand why people dedicate so much time to rotoscoping

>>3599046
It looks cool

I have trouble figuring out why it looks like shit.

>>3598876
it reminds me of a very amateur rick and morty, it sucks don't get me wrong. You really should practice drawing more before you try to do something like this again.

>>3599046
yeah this could be made by just using a rendering filter, like those one they had in google sketchup

>>3599330
There's no anticipation. It just drops.
Also it leads with its hips, giving the impression that it was shot there, but that's not an instakill. The head and upper body would still be moving around.

>>3599341
You wanna elaborate on why it was shitty besides just saying “cringe xd”

>>3599464
i was looking at hunting footages and it seems to me, that when they are hit with a good shot, they fall butt-first

>>3599487
Not him, but it's obvious that you can't draw. When animators can't draw they find ways to hide it skillfully. You don't know how to do that.

As far as animation goes, it's nothing. All stills with some repeating motions and quick actions. Then you have a couple of things that are motion tweened while all other movements are keyed. It makes it more jarring.

Your colors suck too. It's like a middle schooler using MSpaint for the first time.

>>3599330
timing is fucked up
rn it looks like |-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|
should be |-|-|--|----|-------|--|-|-|

>>3598876
2d animation is the skill of a draughtsman and you're a bad draughtsman

>>3598876
good job on going through and finishing such a large project. finishing something isn't easy.
the visuals are interesting, but if you consider going into animation, try to learn the basics of anatomy, perspective and compositing.
now in my opinion, there's no need to hold back on working on your creative projects, you don't have to master every field, before you tackle a film, but try to learn from your mistakes and better do small projects that don't eat up your time too much.
you still have to go a long way, but you show tenacity and morale.
good luck!

>>3587545
Full version if anyone cares
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0dNJEQ820Q

>>3600104
How do you become a better draughtsman?
How do you know if you're a bad draughtsman?
I'm not him

>>3600377
I really appreciate the full screen light up you do for the gun shots, which I assume you weren't asked to do. Nice touch.

>>3599330
in between drop should be faster

>>3600755
forgot text
I made this one because i like "anime style" becoming more populair and ok to draw.
Never seen the old show so it didn't ruim my childhood. it's just something new. the other character designs look kinda gay though...

>>3600758
I love the turn at the start. Could just be preference, or my lack in knowledge of the character, but maybe she could be more expressive.

>>3600768
Thanks!
heh, i don't know anything about the character either. I got pretty lazy after i was done animating the feet. its a real chore to keep track of wich feet is wich when they and the character itself turns..

>>3600755
>>3600792
Yeah, the turn's really good, but the thumbs up/bounce at the end are really stiff. I'd get rid of them entirely if you really are too lazy to fix them.

>>3581731
>"RIP TVP" edition.

It looks like it's starting to be used in anime,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dikKmj-55Vw
maybe there's hope for it yet

>>3600073
I don't have a crit it's really good

>>3600073
did you use the coil method for that 360?

>>3601153
thanks
>>3601293
what's the coil method? never heard of that

first day animating. how's it look?

anybody used both tvpaint 10 and 11? are the new features really worth 1200 bucks?

>>3583337
i dont know shit about animation but this is really cool anon
keep making stuff like this

Anyone interested in translating this?
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000399.000005223.html

>>3602568
its understandable using google translate

>>3602570
k I'll try it

>>3602329
Stop is pretty abrupt on the blue ball. Space out the frames more toward the end.
Lookin good though.

I’m switching to Krita desu. I’d rather use something open source and free than my pirated tvp10 at this point. I don’t see the drawbacks

I made some adjustment notes for myself in pink.
Any other criticisms?

>>3602772
found any good tutorials you could recommend?

>>3602799
It looks really nice

I just really dislike one thing that you did and a lot of others do in 2D animation - at the beginning of the gif when the monster is taking shape, its legs stay fixed while the top half moves, I know the logic behind it (Why re-draw the same thing if it just stays in place) but man does it look uncanny, and I know this is rough animation so for the final product please take the time to draw at least two if not three frames of those legs and copy/paste those in the same position so at least it looks like you drew the entire thing all the way, that's what I do in my animations and it helps infinitely

>>3602799
WOAH this is cool af. How'd ya learn to do those camera shifts and stuff?

>>3602718
it suppose to be bowling ballesque. but yeah maybe it stopped too soon! thanks for that!

>>3602937
I was animating straight ahead so once I got the legs out I wan't sure what to do with them. I'll keep that in mind when I finalize it, thanks.

>>3602944
Thanks, friend. But yeah, I'm just kind of messing around, trial and error like. A lot of it is moving individual frames around after I've finished animating, then tweaking the drawing.

>>3602973
it still impressive! this is from your imagination? or is it ref'd? either way i like it but i dono much at all im like day 2 of animating

I feel I got pretty good at composition, but god damn, I still can't draw for shit. Now I see why most shows have non-human characters, to be honest

>>3602932
ok I'm done with my <24 stint with Krita. No tweening, no filters. If they add more animation tools in the future I'd use it but it looks a bit too bare bones right now

hey howed I do bros?

>>3602973
how do you maintain your forms when doing straight ahead mine keep always changing

>>3581731
m-my animation of apustus...

>>3603980
Resize down to like 700p, holy fuck.

>>3603983
S-Sorry, I'm used to draw in big canvas. This is just a draft.

>>3603304
brilliant, as something comical it works perfectly, if you did it better it wouldn't have been as funny

>>3603980
>>3603988
The look of the lines suggest that you made this in Flash. If so, you can just infinitely scale your finished animation to whatever resolution you need. The canvas size in Flash doesn't mean shit, since everything is done with vectors. Animating with a 3500x2100 canvas would just take up unnecessary resources. As long as your resolution is 16:9, the final export through Swivel/After Effects is what matters.

>>3604815
how to set that?
how to export that?

>>3604900
First I'd recommend using a smaller canvas size. I use 960x540 because it's half of 1080p. When you click onto your blank canvas, the properties tab will show you what resolution your file is at. When you create a new document, it will let you choose your canvas size. Anything above 1280x720 is kinda ludicrous and unnecessary.

After you export your animation as a SWF file [CTRL-Enter], you could put the SWF into Swivel.
https://www.newgrounds.com/wiki/creator-resources/flash-resources/swivel
Swivel basically converts your SWF vector animation into an MP4 video. In the software, you could select what resolution you'd like the file to be converted to, and what bitrate you'd like your video to be.

Vectors aren't pixels, they're points that define lines and curves that eventually define a whole shape. This shape can be scaled infinitely larger or smaller. Swivel basically takes the entire SWF and all of the vectors inside, and scales it to fit a video resolution. It's similar to when you upscale an image in Photoshop, but without the loss of quality. So as long as the stage in your Flash document is set to a 16:9 aspect ratio, the resulting SWF file can be scaled up to a 1080p video or even 4K if you'd like.

If you want to reduce the size of your canvas but there's an animation already there; you could select all of the layers in the animation, then cut and paste them into an empty symbol. The symbol nests your whole animation inside of it, so now you could do camera pans, or just have an easier time placing it in the composition.

anyways yeah i get real autistic about this stuff

How would you idealy approach something like this?
I just drew a deer on a layer, then made a contact foreleg pose, the matching back leg pose, and moved to doing the keys from there.

>>3602799
You are over animating.

fug, the legs keep getting shorter

>>3600755
I think I know you :) I saw this on facebook

>>3604942
thank you so the guide, anon.
the swivel and empty symbol is neat, I'm gonna apply that in my workflow then.

Animating people is harder than bouncing balls it turns out, how'd I do?

>>3606124
*so much for the guide

>>3606145
its good

>>3605270
this is great, but yeah, he does look like he's shrinking

Hello friends, I dont have time for toonboom anymore so I'm selling the license cheap, like 75. If interested, contact me on discord, StonesOfAnarchy#0594
Its toonboom harmony 14

I seem to have a lot of difficulty animating forward facing characters (walk, run, etc), any tips on making it easier, or is it just somethign you have to develop a feel for.

Is there any example of anime character design maintained but animated as elaborated western style animation?

>>3606896
Inferno Cop

I made this :)
Hardest part was all this dots on the lizard.

>>3600755
The tumblr head really ruins it for me.

>>3607105
cute!
the lizard seems to float a little?

>>3607121
Thanks! He jumps.

>>3606686
You try using a ref?

>>3585500
>doing the zoomer dance
delet this now

>>3607121
>>3607137
I think that guy was giving you some crit, because it looks like he floats for a second rather than actually jumping. it's too slow.

>>3607137
I didn't even notice he was supposed to jump. Try speeding it up a little.

thinking to go public soon

pic related, has sound normally

is there a more stable version of easytoon than 1.99? sometimes it deletes the frame instead of going back a step when I hit ctrl+z
some annoying bugs..

>>3607610
i had the same problem so i stopped using it. a work around is to just manually erase stuff with the white brush at a larger size instead of using ctrl z

>>3607640
a pity, because I kinda love the simplicity of the software.

Is full on fbf a waste of time.

I don't mind roughing out pure fbf as it's mostly loose and scribbley but after that stage should I attempt to reuse as many assets and drawings as I can without it looking shit.

Redrawing every little thing when it barely moves makes me want to kill myself.

>>3607817
yes, its okay to be economical, copy paste drawings, rotate parts a little. thats not cheating but make sure you use it sparingly or it can look stiff.

>>3594439
i can't tell what is happening when that random purple thing jumps out of the horn. If it is supposed to be the result of her blowing into it, it happens way too quick and seems like it happens before she even puts her mouth on it

Can anyone point me towards a tutorial on how to use animate cc to make a seamless animated music loop?

>>3594439
I've seen you working on this for months now. it's time to move on.
on a side note; posing and timing doesn't feel right. the anticipation looks great, but it doesn't pay off.
look at this reference, you can feel the force he needs to blow into the saxophone.
in your animation, the energy just poofs off. I see you used one smear frame to quickly move her instrument back up. why? don't fall in love with your frames, if they don't support the overall action, get rid of it.

>>3608301
Where can I learn about that side diagram animators do?

>>3608507
YouTube. They're timing charts

>>3607870
There is zero weight in that flower sack my dude.

>>3592552
>>3593253
>two weeks later and it's absolutely nothing

Every. Time.

>>3608507
Animation books, usually the first few chapters

>>3598876
Best thing I have seen being done by someone in these threads.

>>3598918
very cool idea and great result

>>3586169
why not just use screen caps?

From what I've seen and read so far, it looks like some animators here don't use Adobe **AfterEffects** and try to do all the Compositing and Sound in the animation program.
That sounds like **A LOT** of pain!
For simple stuff you probably don't need it, but if you have a background, foreground and would like to use some VFX, camera panning, 3D stuff and post-processing effects later, AfterEffects is a must have. Most animation studios use it and it's actually very easy to learn.

Another thing I've noticed is that especially beginners see animation from the wrong point of view.
I define Animation as filmmaking with a different medium. *(filmmaking in terms of recording some action, not actually bound to film)*

Why? Because in it's final form it's a video. Therefore **all filmmaking guidelines** can be applied. Probably the most important being **Composition**,like the rule of thirds, which is used nonstop in TV, film and photography.

In animation we pretty much emulate a real camera in the end (and of course are not restricted by the physical limits).
But since we are focusing only on the animation part, we can sometimes forget about the **directing** part and all the others *(just look how many phases/ departments a standard TV anime production has for example)*
I'd even say that animation is not about movement or the amount of frames. It's just another audio-visual time-based medium to tell a story.
The same goes for stop-motion and CGI/ 3D animation, etc. of course. Each medium has it's own advantages, disadvantages and unique look.

>>3602799
I really like this one, btw. Great camera movement and timing. Pretty epic.

>>3608301
YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE RIGHT!!! I should just change that frame altogether. I want the same energy in that gif of yours.

>>3607944
yeah it feels really off! I'll fix it!

I programmed this in Java then recorded it. It's simple cyclic motion.

>>3602330

If you're purely animating, and don't care about some arguably great Quality of Life improvements in the software, then not really.

>>3586226

I put it on their feature suggestions feed a few months back, hopefully they get around to it. As soon as they get that TVPaint will lose a lot of competitive edge.

>>3598244
Learn to use an xsheet

>>3610117
can you elaborate on "Quality of Life" improvements?

>>3605095
Fucking retard, what does that even mean? Post your work

>>3605270
you only did half of the cycle

>>3610940
Yes of course.

live thread

Just started learning

>>3596822
needs more hold for anticipation

>>3612021
Where the hell did you get a pegboard?

>>3612460
Not him but pegboards are really easy to find. There's even metal ones on Amazon. The trouble is finding a proper punch for the acme style peg. I use a round hole "binder" type because the punch is cheaper and widely available.

>>3612021
Study the principals, like anticipation and ease in, ease out. Looks nice though. What do you use to punch the peg bar holes?