/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>"i'm not a pedo"
>lemme go draw just lewd kids

There's already a thread about Shadman.

>eceleb cancer
never change /ic/

>>3520146
>draw a car
>lmao are you sexually attracted to cars? do you fuck the exhaust pipe anon?!

Listen to the Sleepycast podcast with Shadman on it. He's a very calm guy, wouldnt hurt a fly.
His choice of art subject is questionable but sure as shit doesnt make him a pedo. Let's not dilute the term for one of the most vile types of human being.
His art can be in bad taste and I don't pretend to understand why it's "okay" to accept it. But bad art is what this place is built on.

>>3520146
I like to draw guro and I'm not a serial killer. I do like vivisections because they enthrall me. I do not fap to them though so I understand this guy.


Sorry shadman. The church will come for your head. Americans are so fucking religious even though they believe themselves to be anarchists. Fuck them.

>>3520125
>everyone ignoring the fact that shad draws lewd pictures of real life kids, not just cartoons.

how do pedos defend this?

>>3520167
I hate me some Keemstar, but Shad crossed a line there.

>>3520163
>Americans are so fucking religious even though they believe themselves to be anarchists.
I live in Texas and I've never met a religious anarchist, not even a right wing one.

>>3520163

Ya, I bet its the tumblr evangelocons that are going after "racist nazi" shadshit. lul

He draws legit underage even toddlers. He even draws real girls like the Logan actress.

>>3520163
>The church will come for your head. Americans are so fucking religious even though they believe themselves to be anarchists.
The sanctimonious lefties are carrying the torches this time.
They still believe themselves to be anarchist tho, even through lefties are the establishment itself.

Still, it's gonna be a shitshow.

>>3520125
Is that why you faggots are interested in art? To blogpost about tier 5 e-celebs?

Get a fucking life already, find a hobby, shitposting and vidya doesn't count

>>3520196
how many tiers are there?

>>3520177
Texas is full of fundamentalists

>>3520178
Leftists can work the same way the church works

>>3520187
Americans are third worlders with iPhones and they are religious as fuck with or without a religion

>>3520156
If you draw the car sexually then yes i would assume so

>>3520273
>Leftists can work the same way the church works

"The church" doesn't exist in US. its an empty label, there's no hierarchy or constant structure to the amalgamation of various religious organizations. So even if we pretend thats what you meant the analogy is hallow.

You're just dumb and saying dumb stuff, own up to it already. :^)

Can we please leave him alone, by all accounts he's a fantastic a really nice guy.

>>3520293
T. Butthurt amurican

>>3520125
Wtf almost everyone I follow follows shad, even people in the animation industry. how'd he do it? I thought drawing porn was a no no but this paints a different picture.

>>3520156
>>3520159
>>3520163
>>3520167
>>3520172
>>3520297

Actual degenerates

>>3520312
literally no one decent, just some tumblr lgbt cartoon fags lol

>>3520322
Not really. You are just probably from an older generation. Young folks don't really have a problem

what's the problem in masturbating to kids? shadman is drawing prime pussy

>dude builds his fanbase around edgy horny 13 year olds and middle aged nazi pedophiles
>why does ever think im a nazi pedophile?
really gets the noggin jogging

>>3520359
uhm, hello. Mr freog postee culd u gibe me a link to all your images please and thank you

>>3520185
This is the absolute truth that shadfags can't answer for. He's drawing real life children in sexual situations. It's pedophilia.

>>3520267
Different anon but I think 10 tiers are standard

>>3520322
why did you call me >>3520167 a degenerate? my post was opposing shadman.

Shad is not a pedophi—

>>3520440
why did he have to render the kids ass like that

>>3520337
>millenials think pedophilia is a meme

>>3520423
accidentally, my bad anon

>>3520167
The real kids are a problem. I don't care at all about fake kids and cartoon shit but it's tough to defend him having drawn real children. Although the artist inside me believes you should be allowed to draw anything but even though that's what I believe the emotional argument against it is too great to sway anyone else to my opinion.

>>3520446
No. Younger gens are just more open about mental illness in general. At least I think that 2d drawings that satiate pedophiles is a much better thing than them raping real kids.

You just want pedophiles to go mad.
I just want them to fap to 2d pics and not rape real kids.

>>3520470
why the fuck do you want to pander to pedophiles instead of treating their mental fucking illness are you retarded

>>3520473
Do you really fucking believe pedo guys and gals are openly going to admit they are pedophiles?. A lot of them are your normal dude with families and stuff. do you even think that a psychologist wanting to find a tratment would get tests subjects offering themselves for research? Not a a chance. Why? Because it is so taboo. you can even go to jail for mentioning it in some places.

So I think its better if we become open about people wanting to fuck kids and they not being able to handle it because you know. They are mentally ill.

Better for them to have 2d to fap to than to succumb to their fucked up desires.

T. A gen X open minded guy who draws normal concept art stuff

>>3520478
you mean "t. thinks pedos will be sated with (and not encouraged by) drawings"

Shadman make me feel bad
know what else make me feel bad? pedophile
know what else make me feel bad? nazi!

shadman make me feel bad like pedophile and nazi, shadman pedophil nazi!

>>3520479
I bet you are american and that's why you think shaming is better than openly discussing and finding a solution to things

>>3520482
I bet youre a pedo who wants it normalized so you can prey on kids

>>3520484
Nope. Your gen is going to die with your beliefs old man. Embrace the new world

>>3520478
>Better for them to have 2d to fap to than to succumb to their fucked up desires.
If the only thing stopping you from raping children is a few drawings to need to admit yourself to a psych ward where you will never be a menace to society

>>3520488
>thinks the belief that pedos are fucked in the head and shouldn't be catered to should die
why don't you have a seat over there

>>3520492
>>3520494
People like you is why we don't have treatments for pedophiles and why children keep getting raped.

>>3520497
There are treatments for pedophiles
And that IS psych wards, not fucking child porn

>>3520497
we do have treatments for pedophiles you dumb cunt do an iota of googling and you can see them. go get some help

>>3520156
maybe if he drew the cars as sexual beings that get fucked in every orifice, then yes, i would ask if they are attracted to cars

>unironically getting mad at fucking DRAWINGS
You normalfags are fucking retarded

>>3520440

Black guy in the bottom panel...

ITT cucks stepping on their own feet to be progressive so they don't invalidate pedophi- I mean MAPs' "orientation" and humanity.

Would you let shadman lewd your daughter so a pedo won't fuck real kids?

Really makes me think.

>>3520499
Treatments that barely work and few patients because nobody wants to admit when they are mentally ill because of the taboo around it

>>3520498
No. A lot of pedos feel extreme guilt because of it.

But enough of whiteknighting fucking pedos. Believe what you want but censorship makes the problem worse just look at japan. Nobody rapes kids in japan and 2d loli is legal.

>>3520516
Not if I lewd her first my brother

>NGMI degenerates actually defending shadman
the absolute state of this board

>>3520530
fuck off shill

>>3520440
How is that bad in any way? It's a joke.

>>3520630
what was the joke?

>>3520529
as if you'll ever get laid lmao

>>3520655
can I lewd your daughter anon?

>>3520312
It recently got out that facebook sorted Russians by an interest tag called "treason" that the Russian government could easily access. They still sort Nigerians as "gay" if they show those interests even though it gives 14 years of prison there.

Once AI gets better at sorting big data imagine all the tags your search history will sort you under. A place that is far ahead in those areas is china. There they reward all their citizens with points depending on all their detectable activities.

You can't even clear your search history and think you are safe anymore. It's all being logged at this point. You are going to end up with a nasty tag in the future if you follow a pedo-artist on a public profile.

>>3520361
i am perfectly fine with the shit he draws but he should be realize that if he keeps drawing countravertial shit then normie sites will ban him

>>3520178
>people find pedo art disgusting
>OMG ITS THE TUMBLRS AGAIN, LITERALLY NO NORMAL PERSON HAS A PROBLEM WITH THIS

are you just pretending to be retarded?
i guess he should be allowed to draw what he wants but he and people like you shouldnt be surprised when everyone considers you pedophile degenrates who should get fucking hit by a car

>>3520670
sure, my nonexistent daughter's all yours

>>3520156
>lemme go draw just lewd kids
>LEWD kids
it's almost like you didn't even read anon's post before making your dumbass analogy

>Joke's on you, I was just pretending to be a racist nazi pedo
The absolute state of sadman. :(

>>3520478
>Do you really fucking believe pedo guys and gals are openly going to admit they are pedophiles?. A lot of them are your normal dude with families and stuff. do you even think that a psychologist wanting to find a treatment would get tests subjects offering themselves for research? Not a a chance. Why? Because it is so taboo. you can even go to jail for mentioning it in some places.
Where the fuck were you in the last, I don't know 3 decades Gen Xer? Scientists and psychologists have been studying pedophilia for decades, making numerous breakthroughs on behaviors and genetics there're treatments and institutions helping and containing those fuckers. We are well aware of their presence in our everyday lives, we know where most of them most like would congregate to.
>So I think its better if we become open about people wanting to fuck kids and they not being able to handle it because you know. They are mentally ill.
Dude, Are you really that retarded? Are you really advocating for the idea of society being okay with a grown ass adult fucking little kids because you feel that we cannot do anything about it? If that's the case, why stop there? We should also let out and be okay with psychopathic murderers too because society "cannot handle it." If you have kids I feel super bad for them.
>Better for them to have 2d to fap to than to succumb to their fucked up desires.
If a drawing of little kids the only thing to stop your urge to purse real children, you're not in a good mind space and you need serious help. Not only that but how the school shooters who plays video games specifically FPS and sandbox games like GTA, why come those games are not stopping their urge to shoot people up?

This is why I always put a disclaimer that everything I draw is depicted as aged 20+ and none of these are endorsed irl

I hate his art but he's pretty based for triggering so many retards with just drawings. Ironic that they're the ones calling him a nazi.

>>3520440
okay this is just disgusting, he probably shouldn't post on twitter and shit, but hentai foundry or his own page

Ffs work on your stuff people.

Be better than shadman (if you can) and let him be

You could be drawing rn

>>3520159
>a pedo cant be a calm guy
>pedos cant be someone who wouldnt hurt a fly

wrong, but you would never know since they cant fucking tell anyone can they?

>>3520473
Is it even possible to change what someone is attracted to?

>>3520492
doesnt have to be rape, does it? could be just going on the dark web and watching, thus funding real cp.

could be even further, to finding them online and doing online stuff. when you have no other option for sating your sexual desire, you will find alternatives.

>>3520473
>>3520497
>mental illness

oh no no can't play that card again. These faggots lust for children because they are small, weak, and easily manipulated. They can have their with them, and this control makes these faggots hard.

Let's not pretend like being pedo is not a choice, or that it's an "mental illness" of sorts. It's a deliberate crime, and how someone can prey and abuse innocent children is beyond me.

>>3521035
but being a pedo is just the attraction

i agree with everything else, but not every "pedo" has acted on their desire. and if you think it's a choice, the attraction, not any of the acts that may occur from it, does it not make you wonder what else is?

did i choose to be attracted to fat ass white women? did foot fetishists, or BDSM people choose to be attracted to that? yeah, nah i dont think so.

>>3520125
>draws nazi racist pedophile drawings
>gets beaten for that
>G-GUYS IT'S OK :) IM NOT ACTUALLY A NAZI RACIST PEDO :^)
yeah fuck off pedonazi
Im glad a literal faggot that gets money from drawing such crap getting punished

>>3520156
>>3520163
It's not how that works.

If you draw a pedophile nazi drawings in a society that dislike pedos and nazies...Then why the fuck are you crying when people punish you for that.
Holy fuck im fail to understand how Shadmans or your brain works.
>durr hurr here is a little girl getting fucked by a dog and then getting raped by hitler :D xDDDD
>WHY PEOPLE HATE ME??!?!?!?!!??!

i just dont care

>>3520125
>not a pedo
ahaha yeah shad
and im not a furry

>>3520462
>you should be able to draw anything
not if you use it to harrass people

sure free speach means you can say anything but coming up to people on the street and yelling obscenities at/about them is not acceptable

>>3520440
Thats actually pretty cute/funny

>>3520440
this 2

>>3521076
>dad gets a boner with extremely young daughter on his lap
>cute

why did shad draw that ass on the child?

>>3521081
pedo

>>3520125
>drawing someone getting murdered in a gorey way doesn't make you a murderer

>physically abusing your partner in a sexual context (spitting, name calling, hitting) doesn't make you an abuser

>drawing images of people fucking dogs/furries doesn't make you a dog fucker

>looking at incest porn doesn't mean you support/condone incest

>drawing porn of fictional underage characters makes you a pedo

I unironically like shotacon alot (sometimes loli) and the idea of hurting a child is fucking disgusting to me.

>>3521091
still a pedo, which you can't argue with at all. being a pedo has nothing to do with hurting or abusing minors. its just an attraction to young children, which you have.

>>3521096
>its just an attraction to young children, which you have.

Im not physically attracted to children though, ive never looked at kids sexually. Just hyperstyilized versions that bear little to no resemblance to actual children

Kinda like how this is a cat/dog (im not really sure which) is sexually attractive to me but real animals i would never touch.

>>3521098
but this doesnt look like an animal my dude, it has very human characteristics.

shota looks like little boys, stylised? sure. but they look like little boys, there is no animal in existence that looks like what you posted, none.

>>3521102
I like this boi right here, i lewd him in pron.

If you asked me would i lewd an actual 3dpd underage Korean boi i would say absolutely not. That is disgusting. Completely different from reality.

The most this really says about me is i like youngish , small, cute smooth bois. (By youngish i mean 18-22, maybe older)

How can i be a pedo if i cannot be attracted to the thing i supposedly crave?

>>3521098
Looks like a cat anon, considering the slit eyes and filename...

>>3521102
There is also the issue that just because i like something in fatansy doesn't mean i like it in reality.

Someone might be a BDSM sadist in their sex life, but if you asked them if they condone legitimate sexual abuse to their partner they would say no.

>>3521098
>both a pedo and a furfag in denial

>>3521108
>isn't sexually attracted to children but is somehow still a pedo

>isn't attracted to dog but somehow is a furfag

0/8 b8 m8

>inb4 reddit

>>3521105
Shit a, is children, now 18 - 22. Shots is children, if you aren't in to shot a, but twinks, fine. But shots is children.

>>3521112
>>3521112
The character is underage, i feel attracted to it. By your own definition i am a pedo .

Yet i tell you this has little bearing to reality. If you gave me an ACTUAL young korean boi i would never touch him.

Also you didn't bring up my point at >>3521107

>>3521112
To further illustrate my point as i refereed to here>>3521107, if i liked to watch fake rape portrayed in porn, does that mean i am a rapist.

>>3521115
But being a pedo has nothing to do with your real life actions. It has to do with being attracted to kids, I don't think you say someone wasn't a foot fetishist if they just looked at cartoon feet.

There are plenty of reasons not to touch a child sexually, even if you are attracted to them. It can fuck them up mentally, they don't completely understand what it means. But it doesn't matter, it has nothing to do with being a pedo. Someone who molests kids is a child molester, and in great proportion, even the people who sexually abuse kids are not even pedos. They're usually opportunistic rapists.

>>3521105
Suicide Boy suffers from the MC being drawn so young. I mean realistically being younger looking does get you bullied but he's drawn so child-like the only feelings it can rouse are maternal.

He needs happiness someday.

>>3521120
If you interest in loli/shota translate into 3D yes i would agree, but for alot of people (including me) it doesn't . Calling me a pedo feels very inauthentic, its like calling yourself gay when you only like extremely unrealistic 2d traps.

>>3521121
I would take care of him maternally, but i also wouldn't mind lewding him. He is a CUTE BOI

>>3521123
You're comparing two different things again, traps do not look like men, that's literally the point. If you look at 2D men however, I might be inclined to call you gay, considering that would make you attracted to the male body.

>>3521125
They're not completely different, they both represent things that aren't true representations of the real thing.

IE find me a boi this THICC.

Fantasy are reality can be very different. What is attractive in a hypothetical fantasy world isn't always gr8 in reality.

I like gay furry bondage porn, but I doesn't want to tie up a horse irl. Hell I'm not even into bondage irl.

Sexual fantasies sure are weird.

>>3521128
This.

>>3520167
>draws lewd pictures of real life kids

Is this true? You have any proof to back that claim up?
I don't really watch Shädmans stuff, I thought he only drew fictional kids?

>>3521127
But you can't compare images of children making you a pedo, to a trap making you gay. I don't care what you say, traps are not flat out male looking, yet shota is flat out child looking. I don't think the distinction between real and drawn makes too much of a difference to me. I'm not trying to vilify you here, I'm not saying you want to rape children, because as I've stated that's not what a pedo is. That picture you posted looks nothing like a child,and the character is not a child either.

>>3521096
>still a pedo, which you can't argue with at all
...and why would you? It's an accurate but stigmatized term. Remember that "homosexual" was a very derogatory term only until very recently.

Molesting children is a more common crime than scat fetish shit-rape, bestiality or forced inflation - whatever- precisely because it is MORE NORMAL. And yet, the aberrations who hold such fetishes are less stigmatized than pedophiles - because the act of, or intent to abuse the subject of that fetish has not been conflated with the mere attraction.
It is okay to be attracted to women, but it is not okay to rape women. It is okay to be attracted to girls, but it is not okay to rape girls. Criminals will be criminals, thoughts are not crimes.

Parents should have the final say on what happens to their children and should take greater responsibility in those choices, instead of emitting false outrage to direct the unfeeling hand of their nanny state into doing their job for them. Stopping rapists from raping your children will stop rapists from raping your children, banning some abstract depictions of it won't.

>>3521132
yet technically the korean boy and the robin i posted could easily classify as shotacon since they are in fact young children. They below the age of consent.

Also i know what your saying, if i got off to highly accurate 3D models of young children, and they looked realstic then that could make you a pedo. But if you think me and my cute anime bois make me a pedo (since in technically attracted to underage characters, which by your definition makes me a pedo) then that is ridiculous.

Also technically these bois are underage.

>>3521138
What, to you, makes it ridiculous? I think you're just uncomfortable with taking the label.

>>3521139
>What, to you, makes it ridiculous? I think you're just uncomfortable with taking the label.

Its misrepresentation, i dont like kids . I have never been attracted to a child.

How can i be a pedo if i dont like kids?

If i got off to rape play, but never raped a woman, and genuinely found the concept abhorrent, you wouldn't call me a rapist, would you? (or whatever you call a non raping rapist)

>>3521137
This is precisely what I'm getting at. Conflating the attraction with the actions of bad people isn't rhe way forward. As I said earlier, a good portion of child rape cases are just by opportunistic abusers.

>>3521141
I wouldn't call you a rapist because being a rapist implies you fucking rape people you imbecile, we are going in fucking circles, I'm losing my patience. Being a pedi has nothing to do with actions, being a rapist does, but if you get off to rape porn then you like rape, idk what more to say, you just do, you get off to it. Does that make you a rapist? No because being a rapist implies you have raped.

Being a pedo only supposes that you are attracted to minors, which I'm pretty sure you are, since you have said yourself that they are underage. If it wasn't about them being underage, you'd look at twink porn or something else. You like little boys, real or not, I'm gonna say that makes you a pedo. I'm not sure why realistic portrayal comes in to it, it's portraying underage kids. I'm not adding any moral ideas to this, I'm not saying it's bad to like those images, same with just watching fake rape porn, I'm not attaching any morality to this discussion.

>>3521145
>Being a pedo only supposes that you are attracted to minors, which I'm pretty sure you are, since you have said yourself that they are underage

I like that they are cute, people draw if you told me they are 1000 years old i would not care.

>You like little boys, real or not, I'm gonna say that makes you a pedo. I'm not sure why realistic portrayal comes in to it.

Because like i said, pedo would imply i like 3dpd children, i dont. And i dont want to be associated with them.

I know your not attaching morality to it, but if i claimed to be a pedo but also say i dont like actual children would kinda like be like me saying im bisexual, but eww dicks r gross .

>>3521131

Daughter of Keemstar and that one child actress from the Logan movie

>>3521151
absolutely wrong again. it would be like if someone liked girls and 2d guys, but didn't like actually sucking dick or getting fucked by men. i'd still call them bi, so please think more about your dumbass analogies before you say them, they're extremely tiring.

overall it looks like it comes down to what we consider in sexual attraction, and i count 2D, because they're depictions of a real thing. underage boys are a real thing, and are depicted through shota, which you like. im not sure what else to say. we're at an impass because all we're arguing about is whether it matters if they're real, and i dont think it matters.

>>3521157
>daughter of keemstar
thats kinda fucked up, i feel like he's done hit girl too? i may be wrong.

>>3521158
Fine. I'm agreeing with you but I am agreeing with you that we disagree

What if I said age doesn't matter to me , and if the cute boys I like were aged to be consenting, would that fix the issue or should we establish gauge characterisitcs to " child like " . ( which in the context of art can be difficult)

>>3521157
> daughter of keemstar
What? He has a kid?
Ew, that thing was able to reproduce, gross.

>>3521164
if they look like children and are aged as children that's really all there is to it. there's no debating whether they are child like, you have established you like child-like characters of a childs age. even a character who supposedly is so child like that one of the other anons just has "motherly" feelings towards him? it's very telling, if you look at the things you've said, that's what im gathering and putting out in this conversation. you can say all you want that the age doesn't matter, but there is clearly something here to do with age.

>>3521172
It more has to do with cuteness than age. The age of the character is fairly irrelevant to me.

>>3521164
Holy fuck anon. I think the exact same way you think. I wish you were my friend

I also draw shota and loli and don't consider 2d people real. I don't find kids attractive at all. I find pedos sick but have no problem with 2d.

Guess we have to understand people will simply not get us.

>>3521178
but the age ties in entirely with that cuteness. these traits are all almost exclusively attributed to children.

grown men don't tend to look like children, and even less so do they act like them, unless they have severe mental handicaps.

>>3521179
people won't get you? why are pedos sick? you want people to get you but you clearly make no effort to understand others. in the same way you cant help your attractions to shota/loli, others have that same issue with real life. why are they sick?

>>3521182
No. Dude. I'm not a pedo. I don't want to fuck kids. Jesus christ

>implying furries want to fuck their pets

Eh? Not at all. At least not all?
You are the sicko here not me.

>>3521184
i didn't say any of what you just posted, not a single word of it.

>>3521182
Cute boys exist after 18, and age doesn't always translate to 2d well. (Ie anime moms having cute smooth faces despite being 40)

Really the idea that attraction to fake children translates into reality is pretty dumb cause of my previous reason.

>>3521187
again, i didnt say your attractions translates to real. but they are depictions of real things regardless. i never said it means you are attracted to kids irl, all ive ever said is that i dont care for the distinction between the two when it comes to ATTRACTION. that's it. if pedophile means an attraction to children, and you are attracted to drawn children, that's where it ends for me, the conclusion is drawn. if you don't agree, i don't know where we go from here. i've not called anyone a child fucker or said that furries want to fuck their pets.

>>3521190
There should be a distinction, otherwise people will think people like me are kiddie diddlers

And using the term that literally describes kiddy diddlers doesn't help me.

>>3521193
ive said this too, pedo doesnt describe kiddy diddlers, it describes people sexually attracted to minors.

you're the one conflating pedo to kiddy diddlers, it's wrong. you're wrong, no question about it. a pedo isn't a kiddy diddler, in the same way as you described that someone who likes rape porn isn't a rapist. rapist implies action, kiddy diddling implies action, pedo does not.

>>3521197
still, cute smooth boi doesn't always translate to child. Some cute smooth bois happen to be underage, some dont

Although i see what your saying now, still, people conflate the two and i would not feel comfortable comparing myself to that.

>>3521139
>>3521207
>I think you're just uncomfortable with taking the label.

Well then.

My friend described loli/shota as an imaginary age and that made sense.

>>3521037
>did i choose to be attracted to fat ass white women? did foot fetishists, or BDSM people choose to be attracted to that?
Those were developed from various experiences from the person's past. You're not born with immediate fetish for foot or horses. The problem with shadman is his fans are underaged that thinks what shad is drawing is ok. They don't have the mental capacity yet to discern what's right or wrong and they're slowly groomed into looking these things

If you're going to draw problematic and controversial content, that's fine and all but don't forget to put a disclaimer on your page and not have it publicly accessed by minors

>>3521212
sure, i was replying to that post in reference to the guy, or you, saying being a pedo is a choice.

>>3521035
>Let's not pretend like being pedo is not a choice

>>3521209
>being a pedo doesn't necessarily mean you want to fuck kids! Just turned on by cartoons versions of them

So you think this is a true statement.

>>3521218
no i think being a pedo means you are sexually attracted to children. drawn or otherwise. what's so hard to get your head around?

>>3521219
Because i dont like them cause their children

Age them up to 25, fine w/ me.

>>3521221
i always hated running, and when the teachers at school made me run in circles i was always pretty annoyed.

enjoy your day.

>>3521193
>I'm attracted to 2D not 3D
So the only reason you haven't committed rape or abuse is you can't, not that you wouldn't even if you could. Even if you say otherwise, who's going to believe you?
It's pretty easy to prove when someone who is attracted to the real thing doesn't want to abuse the real thing because they don't fucking do it. It doesn't exclude you from using 2D content but it's actually a paradoxically more defensible stance to take.

>>3521212
OR maybe parents should make sure their children aren't accessing pornography on the internet, if they have such a problem with it. It's NOBODY's responsibility but theirs and they get what they deserve if they don't fulfill it.

>>3521218
>being a pedo doesn't necessarily mean you want to fuck kids!
Being attracted to women doesn't mean you run around raping them, neither does being attracted to kids. Rapists will be rapists, abusers will be abusers.

>>3521223
>It's NOBODY's responsibility but theirs and they get what they deserve if they don't fulfill it.
It's the responsibility of both the guardian and the creator that's why disclaimer exists on nsfw sites. You can't exactly stop minors from accessing the internet but at least you put some sort of disclaimer or trigger warning for it.

>>3521102
>shota looks like little boys, stylised? sure. but they look like little boys
t. has never seen actual children in real life

>>3521233
it might be more likely that i havent looked at much shota, don't you think? lmao

regardless, it is the idea of shota/loli, to look like children. sorry, but it is the entire point of the art.

>>3521232
>You can't exactly stop minors from accessing the internet
Don't give them a smartphone, and enable adult-website blacklists on your computer or with your ISP. Done. Kids should not be on the internet at all in the first place.
And what makes you think a disclaimer is going to do anything, anyway? You think kids don't have the wit to lie about their age when they count it in half-years?
Corporations want BANS on any sort of adult content so they can advertise everywhere without sullying their brand name, and parents want BANS on adult content so when they hand their kid a smartphone to shut them up because they're fucking terrible parents with no control, the kid apparently won't get as fucked up as if they happened to see porn while using it.
>get rid of the shad-man so my child can use twitter!
or do your kids a favor and don't let them use twitter, problem(s) solved

>>3521261
I don't think I've explained completely what I meant. Like I've said, you can't control kids from checking out porn but putting disclaimer can deter you from possible lynch mobs from vocal groups. I've had 2 of my friends got called out and witch hunted in tumblr/twitter to the point where they went offline just because those people thought the lewds they are drawing looked like ""kids"" when in fact the said character is an adult and that's just how their drawing style is, a mix of typical anime and chibi style. It was never their intention to draw someone depicted as a kid.

>>3521241
>anime people are real people.

Eh... no?

>b-but it is a representation of a human!

Yeah but they aren't people. I cannot fathom how you cannot understand 2d isn't real life.

>b-but my waifu is a real 3d person!!
No. Sorry anon. It's not a human. It's a drawing

>>3521281
dunno why you put any of those greentexts, i didnt say any of that, nor imply it.

>>3521284
actually yeah, i did say the drawings are meant to represent children, but i didn't say real life and "d were the same thing.

>>3521217
>sure, i was replying to that post in reference to the guy, or you
I'm not that guy btw, I just butted in.

>>3521105
He doesn't really look shota. He looks like a heavily stylized young man.

It's not pedo it I self-insert myself as the shorter one. I like to imagine being the one getting porked by a larger man or woman

Even if the drawings are gross you should be defending shadman's right to draw anything he wants to.

>People are too fixated on shad's 2d drawings when there's actual tons of CP freely floating in twitter and sharing their dropbox publicly

>>3521327
yeah because more people probably see shads drawings.

i use twitter WAY too much, and never have i once seen cp.

>>3521331
>because more people probably see shads drawings
I guess that's true

>never have i once seen cp
you won't because you'll only see your circle of friends on your timeline but with just a quick search it'll easily show up

>>3521340
hardly going to search that, am i? and neither is anyone else. pretty incriminating, along with the fact that people don't want to see that.

so sure theres prob CP on twitter but you cant blame people's ignorance to it, it's something that would want to be kept hidden by the people sharing it. you should go ahead and report it though.

>>3521320
This as long as none of the depictions are of real minors.

>>3521359
keemstars daughter and dafne keen

>>3521372
He means referencing an image of a child being abused.

>>3521320
>"h-he can sexualize real life children because I have I have a retarded notion of freedom"

what about you go suck a cock and fucking kill yourself afterwards?

>>3521384
">how about you epic and a bit of ROFL XD kys!!!"

>>3520125
Tbh even if he was lying, he isnt doing any actual harm. No one is being exploited. You might argue for the real actors thing but his content is so cartoony its really more about the character than the actor.

At the end of the day, its a drawing. Drawing dont illicit you to do shit.

If you dont "believe" that it sates nazi pedos, then why would you believe it illicits them? Hey I gained a foot fetish on the internet. Its legal and tame so i'd like to be open to my partner about it but if she doesnt like it, welp.
I also have a gangbang drug fetish. Im not gonna kidnap women, drug them and have people fuck em. I can separate reality from fiction.

> his crowd is underage!
Perhaps. He puts a warning 18+ label on his website. Its not his responsibility to educate shitty parents.
When soccer mom A stops buying her child the latest bloody shooter or kassacre simulator, we'll talk about the implications of porn drawings.

Cant believe im defending fucking Shadman...

>>3521525
>Cant believe im defending fucking Shadman…

yeah me neither you should probably fucking kill yourself

>>3521525
>He puts a warning 18+ label on his website
he doesn't put one on his twitter tho

>>3521525
if nothing anyone says matters then why do people talk so much eh.

whats with all the art if it doesn't affect people eh.

>>3520125
>I'm not a nazi pedo, that's why I spend my days drawing kids fucking and my avatar wears a nazi uniform

This bitch really thinks we're just as stupid as he is.

>>3520125
lol this guy used to draw porn of his mom, he's fucked in the head

>>3520125
AWWWWWWWWW
He seems like a nice guy! :)
Despite drawing children getting raped and killed. And despite drawing nazie stuff he actually NOT a pedo and NOT a nazi!

How would you not trust this good looking fella! :)
PS:
what a retard

>>3521530
No artist does, cant fsult him for that really. So long as his bio says it.

>>3521533
>if nothing anyone says matters then why do people talk so much eh.
Because people are narcissitic and loke the sound of their own opinions and want to be validated for it?
Just what do you think socoal media is FOR?
>whats with all the art if it doesn't affect people eh.
I dont get this question.

>>3521383
No, I mean no drawing real minors without their parents consent, be it sexual content or not.

>>3521732
>parent consents to sexual drawings of kid
>its okay to draw sexual drawings of kid

>>3521734
Well it's still not okay, but then the fault is the parent's, not the artist.

>>3521737
>artist draws a sexual drawing of a kid
>"well, it's not his fault"

>>3521759
Ok you win faggot.

>>3521737
If you hire a camera man to film you doing childporn is he not complicit?

Im on Shad's side on this one btw, im just enjoying this little thought experiment.

Good riddance.
That's the only thing I'll say about him

Shadman sucks, he can die for all I care.

If these SJWs ever try to antagonize Japanese artists, that's when I'll push them back.

>>3521959
Why does it matter if they're Japanese?

>>3521340
>you won't because you'll only see your circle of friends on your timeline but with just a quick search it'll easily show up
You literally just admitted to looking up CP on twitter

>>3521031
>doesnt have to be rape, does it? could be just going on the dark web and watching, thus funding real cp.
Fine, if the only thing stopping you from watching real children from being raped is a few drawings, you need to be locked up in a psych ward so you can stop being a mentally ill freak
That better?

>killing people in GTA

>>3520156
fucking retard end yourself

>>3521320
He's free to draw but not free from the consequences if he uploads literal fucking child porn

Kim Jung Gi draw cannibalism in his sketchbook. He's cannibal.
Lars von Trier is serial killer because his new movie is about serial killer
Stavrogin is The Devils was raped little girl. That means Dostoevsky was pedo and rapist.
Prove me wrong you can.

>Shadman

ITT: Lolicons trying their hardest to defend their sickness.

>>3521185
you're conflating a drawing with real children. Liking shota or loli but not real kids does not a pedo make. It's lines.

Pedos like loli because they can project and program -- they like the drawing because it's similar in proportion but also JUST because it's young.

People who think loli is cute or draw it themselves but are not pedos do not see the drawing as anywhere near human.

I don't view the things I draw as real, maybe take a step back from labelling someone as a pedo for invisible transgressions against children.

Shad is different because he draws real children. His work is human -- that's fucked.

>>3523169

>lol im not gay just because i masturbate to drawings of hairy muscular men with prolapsed anuses because they r just lines

>>3523169
Fuck me. This is becoming ridiculous, how many more times must I state my case.

A pedo is someone who is sexually attracted to minors. Why does it matter if they're real or not? I never said it mattered. I never said drawings were real, because I don't believe the distinctions makes a slight bit of difference.

If you draw loli, that is, porn depicting humans under the age of 18, however usually far younger, and you are sexually attracted to these minors in the artwork, I think you are a pedo. If it's just because they were cute, you'd draw them clothed, completely non sexual.

I'm not calling anyone pedos for "invisible transgressions against children" because being a pedo doesn't imply anything but attraction, it especially doesn't imply any sort of actions or "transgressions" towards any living nor drawn child.

>>3523267
>>3523169
You should probably also point me to where I said anything you're accusing me or saying or "conflating".

>>3523169
If one likes Lolis/shotas In a non sexual way then they aren't pedos, if do like them when in a sexual way then they are a pedo. Doesn't matter if the don't like real kids sexually, if they like Lolis/shotas sexually then that still counts as being a pedo

>>3521105
변태시발놈 죽어 개새끼. 칭총닙농

And yes, I did say Ching chong nip nong.

this debate yet again? anons still defending the rights of drawings? good lord.

>>3523328
get help before you hurt a child you sick fuck

>>3523333
blow it out your ass, reddit

>>3523333
What a beaut

If you take imaginary drawings of any kind seriously you are no better than extremist muslims bitching about muhammad depictions.

>>3523341
Except Shitman has and does draw pornography of actual, real human children. Keemstar's kid and Dafne Keen to name two.

>>3520146
>draw batman for 50 years
>omg you are a murderer and a criminal!

>>3521035
>pedos do it on purpose!
>but my friend who became trans at 36 when the doctor talked about the benefits is totally normal

>>3523328
What does rights of drawings have to do with the preferences of people drawing childporn?

>>3521959
https://www.ricedigital.co.uk/girls-und-panzer-designer-bbc-documentary-is-fake-news-national-shame/

>>3523430
>drawing
>child porn

pick one

>>3523514
No.

>Positive story about pedophilia
>Fictional child porn.

Pick both.

>>3522984
Lars Von Trier is a pedo for showing underage girls masturbating

>>3521963
because they can actually draw well

>>3523433
The current state of modern journalism.

>>3523405
Yeah that's not cool, but even if I jacked off to it I would STILL not be a pedo. Because it's a fucking cartoon, not a human.

>>3523571
Technical perfection VS Expressionism.

>>3523571
You must be blind. Most Japanese comics are very poorly drawn. The ones who are good have borrowed from foreign masters. Maybe it's because you are a weebo?

>>3520125
Is this guy an idiot?

>>3520462
You can draw whatever you want sure but don't play victim when you purposely draw stuff to get people agitated and then act all innocent.
Same thing with the Freedom of Speech
It doesnt meam your actions don't have and won't have consequences

>>3523622
legendary webm

>>3523622

>>3520125
His biggest sin is being shit at drawing

>>3523829
Let's see yours davinci-kun.

>>3523405
He also drew porn of Ltcorbis too

>>3523845
>gets famous on making objectively shitty art
>”Y-YEAH BUT I BRT HE’s B-BETTER THAN YOU”
Fanboys are abject retards

>>3523944
>He also drew porn of Ltcorbis too

Seriously, how is this defensible in any way.
He also drew porn of his mother supposedly which is quite frankly disgusting.

>>3520125
can't he just create another account?
it would still be a great lost for him though

>>3521081
He didn't get a boner because of his young daughter, he got it because of the adult-bodied female on the screen. Nothing pedo about that particular comic strip.

>>3524059
He could, but I'm pretty sure he would get IP banned from twitter for ban evading.

>>3521081
1. To make it the focus point of the panel.
2. To de-infantilize the character so the scene is less serious.
3. Probably some other compositive reason I'm not aware of.

>>3523976
>He also drew porn of his mother supposedly
link? I've never heard this

>>3524248
https://archive.fo/8xRqh
>That vagina is horrifying

>>3524258
jesus fuck

>>3524095
Not sure I said any of that dude. Actually, I am sure. Regardless, it isn't cute.

>>3524106
>make infants ass focus point
>de-infantilize
>an infant
>still looks like an infant

You guys know you could be drawing your own instead of defending this dude's right to draw porn right? The fuck thia threads hinder your own progress

>>3524748
i don't draw you idiot

>>3523192
>>3523169
really plainly just this

>>3524738
Yes, an infant with adult traits, thus not 100% an infant. I'm sorry you are unable to grasp these concepts, continue poorly drawing your animes.

>>3524825
an infant, with one single somewhat adult trait (not really an adults ass, just a big ass for a child).

an infant nonetheless, so 100% an infant, completely and entirely drawn as and intended to be, an infant. the joke would make no sense if it wasn't, after all. I'm sorry you're unable to grasp these concepts.

i dont draw anime, but sure.

>>3524834
So the main sexual trait of said infant is her adult-ish ass. Thus not for pedos.

>>3523615
So if I masturbate to illustrated depictions of guro that means I'm not sexually aroused by guro? If I get off to webms of CG beastiality I'm not interested in beastiality? gtfo out of here with your shallow and transparent excuses.

>>3520125
If you're not attracted to children don't call yourself a loli artist fucking faggot.

>>3524870
but what if you can get off to drawn guro but real gore horrifies you?

much like how its fun to slash an enemy apart in a vidya but you wouldn't do that to people?

>>3524870
1. The comic we are discussing is not made with the intention of you to fap to the child, it's a joke about a weird situation gone awry. The exageration of the ass on the child is a means to follow up previous panels.
2. If you fap to a "child" exclusively because she has an adult ass, your sexual arousing is due to the adult ass, not the child per se, which means you are not attracted to childish features, but to adult ones.

>>3524836
Not him but I've accidentally walked into softcore cp online plenty of times, and one of the shared themes of the softcore stuff is that the nonce photographing the victims will frequently dress them up as adults, making them wear heels and makeup, tiny crop tops, and will make them perform sexual gestures, such as sucking on a lollipop. Just because a kid is depicted with adult aspects doesn't make the paedophile getting off to what is essentially a child any less of a paedo. Many nonces will in fact do this because they feel that maturing the victim in some ways absolves them of their paedophilia. You see the same shit in police transcripts whenever these fucks are arrested.

>"she made me do it officer!"
>"I didn't have a choice"
>"she wanted it"

>>3524885
Maybe, but we are not discussing child porn here, we are discussing unrealistic cartoons featuring mixed traits. Also,
>accidentally walked into
>plenty of times

>>3521021
>okay this is just disgusting
back to tumblr

Not gonna lie

im fucking jelly of shadmans upbringing

imagine what sort of ultra-liberal progressive household he grew up in


>oh whatcha drawing sweetie?

>nothing mom just princess peaches fat ass getting railed by bowser

>youre very talented son! im proud of you!

>get out of my room mom *tokes bong*

seriously, wish i had parents like this

>>3524889
Considering I've been using 4chan since 2005, yeah, bumping into child pornography back then wasn't exactly some rare feat. /b/ used to be absolutely loaded with it, and mods were lazy. I was a child myself at the time mind, so your insinuations are pretty gross.

>>3524944

>>3524940
he drew his mother naked for mothers day
i feel as though he definitely doesn't talk to them anymore.

>>3524940
Nah, you really don't. It's already been proven that children that grow up without any disciplinary structures in their household overwhelmingly suffer later on in adult life. They're incapable of planning, disciplining themselves, are prone to procrastination, are unable to accept criticism etc. It fucks them up.

>>3524952
i bet he does he probably just had really awesome parents

>>3524953
Ive had a very disciplined and anxiety ridden upbringing. I wasn't even allowed to watch movies that "weren't for my age group". My parents also made a huge deal about sex in media, and I wasn't allowed to play videogames as much as i wanted. My father also beat me a lot and broke my belongings (there is no such thing as real discipline without violence)

I never had the privacy to do what i wanted.

As a result, i became totally obsessed about these things growing up.

Now i'm 26, and learning how to draw anime online. I'm also incredibly OCD about myself, my surroundings, and paranoid about other people. I am very antisocial and legitimately hate anyone who doesn't share my extremely narrow world view.

I have moved out of my parents house last year, and dont speak to either of them anymore.


I bet shadman is a really outgoing and funny person. He probably gives zero fucks. Actually, he doesnt give zero fucks. You can tell from his artwork


tl;dr "discipline" is bad. just love your kids, bring them up in a nice area, and let them follow their passions

otherwise theyll be emotionally stunted with zero self worth, boring office drones, or severely antisocial

>>3524956
no dude you're wrong. there is discipline without violence, you just think there isn't because that was your upbringing.

you're on the opposite end, there's an inbetween where there's no violence and discipline isn't too strict to the point that it harms the child. it's hard to do, which is why there are so many shit parents.

lets kids follow their passions for sure, but don't let them do whatever they want whenever they want, otherwise that other anon is right, you end up unmotivated, just procrastinate and find it hard to discipline yourself. my parents were laid back, perhaps a little too much for most of my life, and here i am at my boring 9 - 5 writing a comment on 4chan. my brother just plays games 24/7 and wont get a job, he lives at home with my parents. my work ethic is terrible, i cant keep to a schedule or any sort of structure in my life, im lazy.

if shad didn't give a fuck he wouldnt have tweeted that OP tweet. but back to the main point, you're just longing for something you never got, dont go around telling people it's the way forward, it's not.

>>3521193
>>3521197
>>3521207

what are all these excuses? you're attracted to the imagery of children, thus why you draw them in the first place, no? You don't want to draw a 25 year old boy/girl, but you want to draw a 6-15 year boy/girl, and then try to lie about it's age to stay safe online.

It's different when you draw children in a context, as part of something, npc's, fodder for busy streets, a scene of youth, childrenbooks etc. And it's different when your sole artistic focus is based on drawing underage loli and shota in skimpy outfits, you fuckin autists.

It's a wonder skadman didn't get banned years ago, freedom of expression doesn't excuse you of morals, and definitely doesn't mean that twitter, or any other site, have to put up with your shit if they deem it inappropriate .

>>3524963
i forgot to say that upbringing, although a big part of what makes you who you are isn't the be all and end all. there's school, which is HUGE because it introduces you to your first big social group, where you have to define yourself within it. there's also other things, like traumatic experiences or lack of, which lead to huge changes in personality, and some genetics, there's a lot of things that make you who you are. a laid back upbringing wont create the perfect passionate child you think it will.

>>3524965
my post >>3521197
was related to what you said, how?

>>3524956
You're only saying this because you've experienced an extreme, now you believe happiness lies in swinging onto the other side of the extreme. Discipline doesn't have to mean violence and repression. Healthy discipline is ensuring your child eats what they're given, even if they don't necessarily like it, because they need to understand the value of food and good nutrition. It's ensuring your child does their homework, has a nightly routine, activity, hobbies and sports that they're encouraged to participate in etc. I am a child of an undisciplined household. I ate what I wanted, when I wanted, I stayed up every night fucking around on the Internet and stuck in Warsong Gulch for 5 hours until 4:00 in the morning. I skipped school, slept in, ignored my lessons, never tidied my room, began drinking at 15. I wish I'd had more discipline as a child because honestly the lack of has absolutely ruined me as an adult.

>>3524963
>no dude you're wrong. there is discipline without violence

lmao your mommy saying "go to your room!" isnt discipline you fag

>you're on the opposite end, there's an inbetween where there's no violence and discipline isn't too strict to the point

no there isnt. if your child wants to do something, let them. Some people are just wired to be deviants, its who they are, like shadman. And if you delay it then itll just fuck them up later in life when they have to get it out of their system

>my brother just plays games 24/7 and wont get a job, he lives at home with my parents. my work ethic is terrible, i cant keep to a schedule or any sort of structure in my life, im lazy.


yeah thats life for everyone m8. Unless you're some self motivated psychopathic CEO wannabe then a human being only has enough energy to do a few things per day before they are out of steam. I hardly manage to go to the gym in the morning, then grind at my "interesting" 9 hour job and then i might have 2 hours max for any hobbies if im lucky

Maybe if my parents left me to it, and i had more self confidence, i'd have started an online business, youtube videos who knows.. maybe pro gamer even. People have to motivate themselves and kids should consume too much media/junk food whatever to know its bad and strive for something "better"

>if shad didn't give a fuck he wouldnt have tweeted that OP tweet.

Shadman is covering his ass. He doesnt want to lose out on money or exposure. Everyone knows hes a deviant and desu im surprised twitter lets him keep his stuff on there and im sure under further scrutiny hed receive an outright ban, as his content goes against Twitters "family friendly politically correct" narrative

>>3524963

> dont go around telling people it's the way forward, it's not.

what makes your opinion the right one? I've lived and experienced it first hand. Kids with no discipline have massive egos and believe they can accomplish everything, whereas kids who were disciplined have massive self confidence issues and end up as mundane drones or mentally defective

>>3524966
>School

and thats why you raise your children in a nice area away from apes and sheboons. I would never dream of having childen until i move somewhere nice with schoolchildren who resemble humans and not monkeys

>>3524979
>Discipline doesn't have to mean violence and repression. Healthy discipline is ensuring your child eats what they're given, even if they don't necessarily like it, because they need to understand the value of food and good nutrition. It's ensuring your child does their homework, has a nightly routine, activity, hobbies and sports that they're encouraged to participate in etc.

> "Son, do ( insert disciplinary activity here )"

> "No"

And then what?

Dont believe everything you see on the tv lmao

IRL here when parents tell their children to do something, the child just climbs out of the window and goes to their friends house to smoke marijauana or play videogames

Thats the reality of it. If the kid knows hell get hit with a belt upon his arrival, he might think twice

Im not going to argue with you dweebs any more because i actually want to draw today

but at the end of the day, when i have children..

id much rather they become serial killers/ do something interesting like shadman or be full time NEETS (I plan to own property and let them live in it full time if they choose so)


Real life isnt for everyone.. its a fucking drag at the best of times. Even when you have a "good" job, girlfriend, sex etc. When all is said and done, people should do what they want to do and what they can force upon other people.

This whole "You have live a wholesome life to be in bed by 9 to wake up at 4 to work for your jew boss" shtick is so overplayed.

>>3524985
>>3524988
I've experienced low discipline first hand, as did my brother. yeah everyone wants to do nothing, but like i said, he does NOTHING, he doesnt stream his games or make youtube videos, he isnt pro, he makes money from the government handouts. he doesn't clean his room, or help around the house, or ANYTHING. HE JUST DOES NOTHING anyone would consider useful to anyone but himself. plus he's insanely insecure, same as me.

i wish i was confident, with a huge ego, i've never had a girlfriend, i dont clean my apartment, i dont work out, i eat like shit, i work 9-5, i cant even manage to get a date on tinder. ive fucked 2 girls who weren't sober. how does any of this sound good to you? this is my point, it isn't just parenting and discipline, and if it is, then your idea of no/low discipline doesn't work, clearly.

and every school has shits, doesn't matter if you're in a nice area or not, every single school as bad kids, every single school has outcasts, every single school has good kids. it's a microcosm, and microcosms always reflect a larger whole.

>>3525003
>but like i said, he does NOTHING, he doesnt stream his games or make youtube videos, he isnt pro, he makes money from the government handouts. he doesn't clean his room, or help around the house, or ANYTHING. HE JUST DOES NOTHING anyone would consider useful to anyone but himself.

So? Who cares this world is shit anyway lmao
let him play his games. Jamal and his wife and 8 kids are getting handouts and a free house. At least let your poor brother play his vidya and fap in peace.

Worlds a shithole anyway, the only reason i try hard in the first place is to move somewhere nice and let my kids grow up without knowing about inferior races

>>3525002
listen that's fine dude you do that, but it doesn't work for everyone. i want everyone to do what they want to do as well, but it's just not realistic. it can't be sustained in current society.

and im really confused on what your idea of a good person having being brought up from a low discipline family is, because people who have had a very disciplined upbringing can also end up doing what they want to do, except they worker harder at it because they have that self discipline.

some people genuinely love their 9-5, so what is the end goal of this hypothetical person with this hypothetical upbringing? why do you think this has no overlap with other methods of parenting? why are you defining interesting, when that's subjective?

>>3525003

plus all that virginity stuff would have occured if you were disciplined anyway

if you cant get laid being an undisciplined person then you sure as hell wouldnt even sniff drunk pussy if you were a high inhib beta disciplined cu-ck

>>3525012

Okay okay, i guess i might have been a little too nihilistic in that last post

I still think Shadman had awesome parents to allow all his deviancy

>>3525010
well the issue with him doing nothing is that he consumes from my family when they cant sustain that forever. they don't have a lot of money, they have plenty of mental issues, my dad attempted suicide, my mum had a stroke, has plenty of back issues, potentially cancer, is overweight - work is hard to find for them. they dont have a lot of money, and i send them money too. he's weighing down an already heavy home.

>>3525013
im not saying it would have happened if i was disciplined, im saying all this stuff about people having a big ego and confidence with no discipline is bullshit. you're highlighting my point here, that regardless of discipline, there isn't just a set type of person that comes from the result of a specific upbringing, it varies. a disciplined person may have very good self esteem and be very confident and vice versa.

>>3524956
>otherwise theyll be emotionally stunted with zero self worth, boring office drones, or severely antisocial
Can confirm.

Parenting should be literally this:
>kid does something bad -> punish him
>kid does something good -> reward him
Period.

Discipline nazis can go fuck themselves, they are creating a generation of psychos.

>>3525026
that's only because anyone who beats their child is a psycho. i dont know why you're agreeing with that guy, since he doesn't agree with you on punishing a child at all.

>>3525010
just realised you said inferior races, you're hopeless. i hope your children end up wanting to bathe in shit because of their scat fetish, and end up killing you in their hobbyist snuff porn video.

>>3524965
>You don't want to draw a 25 year old boy/girl, but you want to draw a 6-15 year boy/girl
No, I want to draw a cartoon depicting feminine and innocent features, I don't give a single shit about the supossed age or maturity of said imaginary, lifeless cartoon, as long as it doesn't look like a toddler.
How there are people that still don't get that a drawing is not a person and that pictoric representations don't necessarily represent real life equivalents is beyond me, especially when there is no children in real life that look as sexualized as those stylized and idealized loli/shota character styles.
By the way, go back to fucking reddit.

>>3525040

>being this ignorant and sheltered from reality

literally no point arguing with you. i'll just direct you to fbi statistics, psychology and scientific articles etc.

funny how people would rather pretend to be ignorant to common knowledge than be branded ""racist"" lmao

absolute state of you nu-males

>>3525044
direct me to them then. no race is inferior, they're all a product of their culture. blacks in africa are different to the ones in england, and america. hell the blacks in ghana are even different from the ones in south africa.

send me all the links you want, it would solidify any evidence that the colour of their skin genetically makes any difference to how they act. the blacks in america came from a long line of ancestors that were brought there on boats in their own shit and piss against their will so that they could clean the house or fight for the fun of white people. later it got better and better by a little, but so much happened between then and now to lead us to today.

if it was down to skin colour, there would be no exceptions.

>>3525051
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Curve

https://en.wikipedia.org
/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States#Incarceration_by_race_and_ethnicity

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2014/3/25/1287278/-National-Review-Black-children-have-weak-impulse-control-compared-to-white-children

don't know why im bothering as your ignorance is forced. this is common knowledge and the stats and links have been posted 100 times before

>>3525035
>he doesn't agree with you on punishing a child at all.
Punishing doesn't necesarily mean physically. Take their vidya away. Don't give them desserts. Etc.

>>3525044
>blatant racist with reddit spacing
Go back to the fucking subreddit you came from you goddamn subhuman, if I knew you in real life I would beat you to near death.

>>3525064
>ignorance
>posted 100 times before
i dont browse /pol/

and looking at these sources, you disregard all of the reasons for the conclusions you're drawing from the stats. these stats claim no reason for them being that way, they are simply stats.

now what could cause more black people to be incarcerated? sure it could be their skin colour, it could be that police arrest blacks more regardless of crime, it could be down to where they live (and usually is, may i say) - but how can you not expect whites and blacks to be different when whites went to america by boat and claimed the land as their own, forming communities that way, and black people were forcibly taken their and forced to work, forming communities that way, and although im not knowledgeable enough on what happened after lincoln banished slavery, i doubt everyone just immediately accepted this. blacks would have still been segregated to their own communities, given shitty jobs and homes in poorer areas. obviously, over time, they wouldn't have time to catch up to the white people who've had understanding and less segregated communities from the start. im not expert on this, all im saying is that it isn't just skin colour that defines a person's traits (as you've obviously stated, and began this conversation with, upbringing can have a huge impact) and there are a plethora of factors i'm not clued up enough to know that could have lead to the discrepancies in race culture we see today.

>>3525080
he specifically said he would rather his kids grow up to be serial killers as it would be more "interesting". he wants to bring up his kids with NO discipline, none.

>>3525084
no you wouldnt m8 i literally have years experience in boxing and lifting weights.

You probably come from a pampered family/area where you havent even seen one monkey roaming the streets. you definitely havent ever been in a fight.

Sit yourself down internet tough guy you'd get your neck broken and then go crying to the authorities lmao

also "reddit spacing" is a newfag meme. go back to facebook newfag

>>3525086
> being willfully delusional

they are psychologically and biologically engineered differently with low IQ and poor impulse control. stop taking away their sense of responsibility, they are not your pet apes that need to be defended by whitey.

kys so-yboy

>>3525209
Sometimes I wonder why people like you waste so much effort shitposting rather than honing your skills.

>>3520441
Pedos work in strage ways like that, anon

>>3520440

>>3525217
Because subhuman garbage is better off dead.

>>3525209
>no you wouldnt m8 i literally have years experience in boxing and lifting weights.
That's why guns exist, american friend.

>>3525209
>psychologically and biologically engineered
>responsibility

>>3520441
It's a way to connect the ass in the cinema screen with the situation that follows. Note how the girl doesn't have such an ass before that.

Shadman has a horrible dark evil energy inside of him and the only way for him to safely release it is through his art.

He probably would have done something by now if it wasn't for his website

>>3520125

How the FUCK is shadman a nazi? he used to draw loots of BBC worship back in 2015, he made Dipper getting gangbanged by blacks and even als late as 2016 he did a comic about marco getting breeded by the SUPERIOR NEGROID RACE, the one twitter worships as LIVING GODS due to their MIGHTY GENETICS.

>>3525545
>Implying fetishization is a symbol of respect.

There is such thing as racist porn.

>>3525545
anyone further right than bernie sanders is a nazi. anyone who makes jokes involving stereotypes is a nazi. but only if they're white. according to leftists.

>>3525551

It is if you are explicitly stating how much bigger, stronger and masculine they are compared to any other race.

"Nazis" in the mind of SJWs, think blacks to be inferior, while in reality they KNEW they where unstoppable behemoths.

>>3525610
I don't even know where you're going with this.

I don't care if he's a pedo or not. Not being a moralfag feels good man.

>>3525551
lol. yes there is.

>>3520159
Pedo doesn’t mean child rapist. Also, he sure as shit isn’t sure as shit not a pedo.

>>3521212
>You're not born with immediate fetish for foot
Wrong, pleb.

>>3526505
No, you're wrong. These fetishes usually manifest after being exposed to them in a sexual context. Doesn't mean you can help it though.

>>3525545
You do realize that the foundation of cuckolding is based on humility and degradation right?

People that usually get off on the BBC content are closet racists that think blacks are subhumans/inferior.

And what's more humiliating than being outperformed sexually by something you don't even consider to be your equal

>>3524940
His parents hated the type of art he drew.

>>3520156
>lewd kids

>>3520440
E D G Y

>>3525545
He’s drawing them and making them look like animals. That whole BLACKED fetish is taboo, making women look degraded and making the blacks look like animals.

Most people that like BBC stuff are racists and sexists.

>>3526501
>he sure as shit isn’t sure as shit not a pedo.

>>3526733
>humility
You wanted to write humilliation.

>>3524258
>barely improved in 7 years
Look at this dude

>>3526824
THIS.
Pornography gets away with actual, brutal racism and sexism.

>>3521039
>a literal faggot
Fuck off nigger, Shadman is clearly predominantly heterosexual. A lot of shit can be attributed to the LGBQTΠBRAAP community but this is clearly your beast.

>>3527025
>he surely is not, not a pedo.

Double negative. The "not"s cancel each other out. So it becomes "he surely is a pedo".

>>3521157
Nice. Hope he does more.

Bunp

>>3523192
The entire trap phenomena invalidates your argument.

>>3527625
~|°•°'|~
*Bump

>>3527629
Past bump limit faggot because of the

>bumps

>>3527628
Liking traps is gay too.

>>3520156

>>3521080
it's a good meme desu

>>3522951
>I demand freedom of speech
>you're free to say what you want to say and go to jail if it's (((problematic)))
>what, not good enough for you?

>>3528693
>stancenation

>>3528693
god I wish that were me, etc.