/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

just, like, draw dude
lmao

>>3317518
>How do those fanartist japs on pixiv/twitter do it.
by taking it seriously, not by being passive hobbyists

They do even more fundies than loomisfags

>>3317518
If your passion wasn't great enough to drive you through the boring parts of learning how to accomplish your goals I don't think you were going to make it far anyway.

>>3317518
Eat a magic pill and wake up the next day being able to render anime bitches from memory without a perspective set up grid and/or studying anatomy at all

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>>3318000
this

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>>3318007
and I'm done with my dump

Now go back to draw fgt

>>3317518
>>3318010
Also I forgot

Here is a book about how to draw cute grills and animos and that

Is in moon-speak but you can read it just fine:

vk
.com/doc4043932_161324940?hash=590e7031d2e3da5284

Also this book about cartooning:
vk
.com/doc4043932_329144763?hash=7c19274efcddc67c45

You can do it anon

>>3317518
Why don't learn just enough fundies to understand how to mimic fav artists?

>>3317518
I have never met a good anime artist who drew without knowing realism.

>>3318033
Shame the first one is in chinese

>>3318118
you can go trough it without trouble senpai

The illustrations are 90% of the book

>>3317674
This.

>>3317518
You fell for the Loomis meme. He's a terrible teacher. His books are just a circle jerk on his drawing process.

You don't have to master realism. Just learn it and move on. Then go draw your anime and apply your fundies there.

>>3318162
What terrible things does Loomis teach that are unique to Loomis? Seems to me it's all very basic stuff that every other teacher teaches as well.

For some reason, people like you always make me feel a bit sad. It's fairly obvious that you are very frustrated and angry. You most likely genuinely tried to get good at art, yet the very first, most basic hurdle you came across made you stumble and fall and you can't get up. Loomis is by far the most beginner friendly teacher of the fundamentals, yet you are too dumb to even understand his books. What can you do now? If even Loomis is too much for you, there is no other teacher left that can possibly help you. You are stuck in /ic/ Limbo, trying to pull wandering noobie souls down with you. Truly a sad existence, I pray for you.

>>3318199
fuck off crab

>>3318224
But a crab is someone who willfully gives out misinformation in an attempt to pull down other people to his own level. Which is exactly what you are doing with your anti-Loomis crusade.

>>3317518
>>3318162
>draw first then fundies
Okay, if you arent shitposting here is the problem: it will look bad. You don't need to understand loomis advanced figure drawing books, but if you are not down to do something basic like learning to draw still life or fundies like the ones in fun with a pencil, you are a lost cause. even shadman had to learn to draw trough muscle memory and references.

Don't put the cart before the horse.

That being said, you have to learn how to have fun drawing OP. You have to learn what you like to draw and it what way you like to draw, even if you don't like drawing you can still do old master tier shit if you enjoy finnishing, the fact that you created a drawing (a good example is satoshi urushihara, creator of plastic little, who in an interview said he thought of drawing as a chore but loved to create stuff, which seems to be akin to your case, OP).

Feng Zhu said that you must doodle and learn how to like drawing before you can really draw, you seem to be skipping that big and important step.

My advice: GO AWAY until you have learned how to put pencil on paper without killing yourself. If you hate drawing and not the grinding of drawing, you are not ready.

You should experiment how you like to draw and you like to draw. here is a good book teaching you how to experiment:
vk
.com/doc366484900_459256347?hash=9e07c3ab6a07736c10

when you are past the phase of doodling then comes improving, that's when you come to /ic/ anomalous. go be a happy weeb until you are sure you want to improve

>>3318199
What book "comes after" fun with a pencil? I found that one somewhat decent in teaching and showing the process of what he's trying to do but all the others seem to just be a wall of text with an overly detailed drawing. It doesn't help that long periods of reading is strenuous and tiring for me.

>>3317518
>How do those fanartist japs on pixiv/twitter do it.
They've been drawing their whole life because they love art.

>>3318240
this. OP if you're the kind of person that would rather play video games than attempt something as basic and as ubiquitous as say drawing a still life, or even just scribbling for the fun of it, then you just don't have the initiative to produce the kind of work that you see and like on twitter.

>>3317518
Here's my philosophy:

>grind books and boring stuff
>draw less because its boring, even though you learn more

>do whatever you like, drawing fun things and doing paintings with lots of colour and stuff
>draw more often, even though you learn less

However, because you draw more often, you end up putting far more hours in and you end up making lots more progress as the hours fly by without you realising as you're actually enjoying yourself. I don't completely throw booklearnin out the window though, I just find lots of things that you learn through books you eventually learn through just going at it painting from life and stuff.

>>3317518
They've never even heard of Loomis. Face it dude, Loomis and "grinding the fundamentals" are a fucking meme. All your favorite jap artists got where they are by drawing what they like.

Most of /ic/ falls for the trap of grinding boring shit they don't enjoy, and they get too bored and give up eventually. You have to enjoy what you're doing to keep going. Trying to draw Loomis and realism is just living someone else's dream. You shouldn't do that, you should draw for your own enjoyment (since it's unlikely you'll ever get famous anyways with an excess of artists in the world nowadays)

>>3318107
You have never even met an anime artist, faggot

>>3318000
what if I started with animay and eventually got better at realism?

>>3318000
Is that Tom Waits?

>>3318440
You should draw what you want to draw and use realism as a supplement

>>3317518

what do japanese people learn to draw with? i'm assuming they don't have loomis over in animeland

>>3318504
They have those mexican how to draw anime books read to them when they are toddlers.

>>3318437
No one likes a pedant, you dumb crab.

>>3318504
Oddly enough, Japan's version of Loomis is still copyrighted.

>>3317674
Everybody listen to this guy.

>>3318504
from what I gathered reading manga and playing visual novels, they learn that shit from their art club in high-school.

>>3318199
steve huston is better at teaching

>>3318000
>you gotta be able to do russian academic drawings to draw qt girls doing qt things
Stop posting that stupid shit

>>3318662
You have to have fundies if you don't want to be a shadman you retard.

>>3317518
Just learn your fundies anon, its easy.

I think what a lot of people forget is that they cut their teeth on getting into drawing during their youth. When it comes time to learn real fundies and git gud they are already well acquainted with art in general. So there is this disconnect when explaining to an adult how to get started because a lot of the shit they did when they started to learn real skills was already backed up by years of doodling or painting or whatever they did growing up

>>3318819
stop posting this, its making you seems jealous of that pic

>>3318240
not even OP but thank you for posting this book. I'm surprised i didn't even see the illustrators guide to pen and pencil in the sticky.

>>3318768
you can learn your fundies without drawing realistic old men and skeletons you nigger

You have to be able to draw what you see, truthfully, and when I say seeing not just with your eye, but with your brain too, observe the subject, understand it, drawing from imagination is just an act of drawing from memory, Everything you draw relates back to what you have seen, even abstract art.

>>3319254
your fuckign retarded art will look like shitty deviantart kiddy OC without fundies good enough to make the character look tangible
https://youtu.be/XczKQAAVbaA?t=196 (3:16)

>>>/i/ and don't fucking come back you stupid nigger