/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3294475
these are my attempts to understand gesture. please give me advice with these

>>3294475
here are my early attempts at drawing from imagination, please give me criticism and ways to improve

>>3294478
Prioritize gesture above anything else at this point and then convey form from it.

>>3294481
should i be starting with the line of action and then building around it? with imagination drawing and also with reference drawing? should i be exagerating the poses with reference drawing (bending them away from the ref) as well as with imagination drawing? would you say gestures are my weakest element right now? thanks in advance

should be posting in the beginner thread
it exists for shit like this

>>3294475
OP image is pretty weak, hidden by an attractive degree of contrast. Post in /beg/ or at least the draw thread. Nothing here is worth having a new thread.

>>3294572
>>3294575
/beg/ doesnt give crits, /draw/ sends me back. whichever gets me the most information is what should be done.

>>3294594
read a fucking book for information and stop posting your shitty doodles here then

>>3294670
shit response m8, books cant evaluate and give responses, this board is for critique, stop being upset that someone is looking for it.

>>>/beg/

>>3294691
see
>>3294697

>>3294700
see >>3294594

>>3294691
Don't bother, no one here is actually willing to give critique, they just want to whine about how hard it is to make it and jerk off about their esoteric knowledge of art.

bump

>>3294929
>you will never be so desperate for attention yet unable to accept the fact that your work is so low level that nobody wants to take the time to actually tell you what's wrong with what you're doing thanks to it taking too much time when you really need to study up on your fundamentals more that you bump your own thread

This place is horrible if you want to actually learn something and from these drawings looks like you are trying pretty hard. I suggest getting into discord groups.
https://discord.gg/uDGqeYV you can start from here

>>3294949
fucking excellent critique, thanks. at least >>3294943 bumped my thread

>>3294960
wait a bit you fucking mongoloid. and post in stream crit as well and watch the streams

>>3294475
>>3294476
>>3294478

>inb4 NGMI

NGMI

Just kidding bro. You do look like you might make it if you keep at it. The problem that immediately stands out to me is that your figures look stiff and not flowing. You already mentioned it, but the usual advice for this is to build around the line of action.

>>3295006
for reference drawing as well as imagination?

>>3294478
where'd your gesture go? You practiced gesture with reference, but then your imagination poses don't follow the same method and are all stiff and vague.

>>3296458
do i move on from practicing gestures?

Its better to start from refrence to understand the movement of the body

>>3296722
You never move on from practicing gesture. You just lay your construction/forms on top of it. Eventually you won't have to draw the action line but you will still use it as a basis for drawing the figure, it will just be your natural first step in your procedure for figure drawing (and everything else you can see a line of action in).
Gesture is really like the current frame of animation that the pose is in. You could take the gestures of your father's walk cycle and apply it to bugs bunny or a stick figure and still subtly recognise it as your father's walk.
When we draw from a model we are 1. Adding a new frame of animation to our visual library and 2. trying to improve or idealize what we see to make an appealing drawing. We don't really want to capture an exact likeness of the model, otherwise why not just take a photograph.
We want to analyse the model, use our knowledge of what makes an appealing drawing and discard anything that might be realistically correct but results in an unappealing or mediocre drawing.
So for gesture we would exaggerate the line of action, push the curves, really show the squash and stretch of the ribcage or arms or legs or neck or spine. We are improving upon the model, we are creating, we are idealizing and we are filtering what we see through our knowledge and taste into something more than a photograph, into art.

>>3294572
people crit him and he doesn't listen. he whines and whines for a magic cure but doesn't listen to anything or learn anything.

>>3296722
what? I was saying that you need to take what you've learned from the reference studies, and apply it to your imagined poses

It looks like you haven't done this yet