/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3254247
the art here is from a man named "mark crilley" who has had success working with the esteemed "dark horse" comic publishers.

>>3254247
>>3254249
wow a man making his own comic books. How cringey. Post your work fag

What gets me about this one is the pose
the legs specifically
how do you think his feet are placed below the panel? it's like his legs are posed as if he's skiing...knees bent and such
How does one overlook this?
or suppose his legs aren't bent, is he standing on his heels? legs stretched out way in front? it doesn't work.

Rob Liefiled
if this fucker can consistently get work so can you cunts

It takes most than just good artwork to work in the industry.

Otherwise we wouldn't have people like Liefield or Greg Land.

If you are shocked they are taken seriously, then your skills in actually networking, working for companies / business skills etc needs to be worked on and your perception on commercially viable art be shattered.

0of

>>3254266
>>3254266
Wrong, standards were lower in the past because less people existed capable of competing in the field. Nowadays you are competing with anyone with internet and a desire to draw, as resources and utilities are around every corner.

Plus Rob was a literal Chad aesthetically, you ugly nerds can't compete. No one wants to come into office and see your ugly depressing mugs everday

it's like a fucking doodle

>>3254266

just remember, if you're ever lacking confidence and hesitating on executing on something due to worry of how others will look at it, consider that this shit was considered perfectly above board.

this one goes out to every one thinking they can't into perspective and foreshortening

>>3254288
>the spidersuit comes to life
looks fine to me

nigga needs loomis lmao

working in comics is more about respecting deadlines and telling a story clearly than drawing well
if you could post a terrible illustrator that gets a lot of work, then I'd be impressed

>>3254301
so in a way if people are getting into art for illustrated story telling they shouldn't be so focused on the art?

>>3254302
employers are always gonna pick a mediocre artist that turns in his work on time over a lazy genius
doesn't mean that those mediocre artists shouldn't try to improve, but I don't blame them for not doing so cause there's no real upside for them

>>3254247
But that IS a good cover for a book though. Books aren't display pieces, especially comics. For all intents and purposes, that's fine enough for the job, and that's what everyone cares about.

>>3254326
DEEN is literally cheating

>>3254283
Standards were lower? In what field? You're talking out of your ass.

>>3254326
>dat skull

>>3254293
Jesus, Sue's supposed to be one of the hottest babes in the Marvel Universe, even Jack Kirby, who usually drew fucked up faces, even drew a sexy Sue Storm. what the fuck is this shit???

I unironically still love ZUN and ryukishi art desu. I think it describes the character's emotion and design well enough for the job, and when my friend told me that my comic art was just as good as ZUN's, i took it as a compliment at the time. id probably still be aiming to draw like them, but, not drawing well doesnt gain views. Honestly, i think the art world has a stick up their ass and are too retarded to see the charm in these. These hands are fucking kawaii, and ive never seen anyone hands like ryukishi

>>3254249
>>3254252
>tfw he came to my town when I was a kid and I got his book autographed

>>3254287
it still looks ridiculous. compare head size, plus captain America shouldn't look like that

>>3254825
but do they count as professional?

>>3254825
Lemmings

>>3254293

>>3254825
ZUN art is on another level of charm. No matter how much improve, I will never NOT like his stuff.

>>3256633
You don't happen to like lolis, do you?

>>3256636
only the best

>>3254825
>are too retarded to see the charm in these.

It's ok if you like it but it's objectively garbage sorry. It's better than the bland sprites in the remake though I'll give you that

>>3254825

>>3256647
>objectively garbage
end yourself retard

>>3256690
It's deviantart-tier. If you show this to someone who never played Higurashi thus free of emotional involvment they would puke because it is bad.
It's not even a style like FKMT who obviously knows what he's doing Ryukishi doesn't know how to draw period.
You guys shit on artists who are more expressive and skilled that him in the alternative thread

>>3254288
this is some good work though

>>3254287

>>3254247
I was like you, before I finaly understood that sometimes I enjoy ONE, Fukumoto and ZUN more than well-rendered boring shit with correct perspective and anatomy. Some things are just full of SOUL that some other things lack, no matter the nechnical skill of the artist.

It doesn't bring me comfort that shit people are getting work. I get much more out of seeing someone be shit, work hard and becoming really good, getting work etc. It's kind of short sighted to compare yourself to people who are as good/worse than you. You won't get anywhere with a mindset like that.

>>3254266
>>3254287
>>3256720

I don't think Lifelds work is good. I hate his stuff actually but comics are all about storytelling and selling an idea instead doing 100% anatomically correct characters. When I was a kid in the early 90's I thought his stuff was totally bad ass. Like "Ooh! Look at all those muscles and chains and spikes and guns!!! SO BAD ASS!". I was the audience and I really enjoyed his work so I don't think his work was a complete failure in that sense.

Obviously now that I'm older and understand some shit about character design, anatomy and a e s t h e t i c s so his stuff looks fucking horrible to me but I'm not going to go out and say that what he achieved in his career was easy. It was right for the time.

There are loads of artists who produce shit work but are extremely successful like "Draw with Jazza" but even he is providing content that has value to a lot of up and coming artists.

>>3256702
LEAVE ONE OUT OF THIS

>>3254247
There's hundreds of mediocre artists getting work in the comics industry. It's no secret Marvel/DC are full of talentless hacks, it doesn't stop there.
I could enter a library here in Belgium and find dozens of shitty comics on sale. In fact, I did, while looking for christmas presents. It is baffling how low the bar is set. There's great comics still being made of course, but also (and more noticeably) dozen of generic, soulless tumblr style comics that are put next to classics like Moebius, Franquin, Herge... And people eat that shit up, because it's fantasy or something. Because people have no standards, or don't appreciate a well drawn or stylized comic. Maybe they're ignorant and don't know there's better stuff out there, or are to lazy or not passionate enough to search. Maybe they don't care and just want to turn their brains off in front of whatever looks like a comic. After all, if it looks competent enough, it can only be good, right? It's art. It's... There.
If you want to blame people for bad comics, blame these consumers. But at the same time, you can also thank them for keeping the industry alive.

>>3257082
>but also (and more noticeably) dozen of generic, soulless tumblr style comics
Could you give some examples?

>>3257117
I'm not exaggerating. Next time I enter a BD shop I'll take pictures because I have trouble remembering.
Here, on top of my head. And while excluding the dozens of shitty star/clone wars or other franchises comics, bad DC/Marvel clones and bad mangas.
Pic related is from an ongoing comic that got around 30 tomes so far.

>>3257162
This shit is very popular for some reason.

>>3257164
I don't want to shit on these artists, maybe it has decent writing but the art is incredibly generic.

>>3257164
>>3257168
You are in the land of the ouiabeaux, the original wapanese.

>>3257168
This one isn't as popular but I remember it hurting my eyes in the thriller section.

>>3257162
>>3257164
>>3257168
>>3257172
Daaamn! Belgium/France used to be god tier. Thought it still was.

>>3257172
>bonjour :)
I read that in a gay accent

>>3254301
ONE
His art looks like shit, got a manga adaptation, anime adaptation and several more manga published

>>3254247
its not about realism or good looking shit you idiot. Why can't you understand, that even if your work looks good, if the story it tells is shit, then its shit. Keep on drawing good looking pictures, but they are not even worth looking at twice.

The feet in Squirrel Girl especially heinous.

>>3257263
welcome to the digital age where anyone can be a comic artist

>>3257263
There's still a good amount of good comics desu but if you don't take the time to dig through the sheer amount of mediocre stuff you won't find them.
Pic related is from a franco belgian comic named Shi, released in 2017.

>>3257432
Wait is this really Squirrel Girl
I remember it being kind of a cute character, not a cosplaying tumblrina with downs

>>3257720
Oh honey, you haven’t heard? This is Squirrel Girl now.

>>3257705
>named shi
>shi
Uh, could you be more descriptive? That looks pretty cool, tho. But how's the story?

>>3254825
He makes the best troll faces.

>>3259749
https://advancecomics.wordpress.com/2017/10/28/review-shi-vol-1/

>>3254288
kinda reminds me a bit of cubism in the way that it's hard to look at if you're trying to make exact anatomical sense of it, but it DOES carry the eye through the image quite forcibly and it's hard to look away from
I don't think this is as good of a bad example as you intended it to be, sorry.

>>3257705
I've heard really good shit about this comic book. I gotta check it out

>>3254254
You can pretty clearly see his left leg is behind is other one, so - weight on hands leaning forward, left leg back slightly taking weight, right leg forward, leg with pretty much no weight on it.

>>3260307
so he just has his right leg floating? nice, that sure fixes that pose

>>3260445
No, you jackass. Try it right now at your desk. His right leg is just forward with his knee bent.