/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

heres a still life in watercolors

>>3189406
and a landscape

>>3189407
>>3189406
At some point im gonna really like something you do, do you do shipping?

Hello fellows drawfags.

I'm thinking in start to draw again, when I was younger I liked to draw a lot but I left that because I felt like I'm shit at it, how can I start again? what are some good things to start drawing?

>>3189405
Reposting from last thread.
Crits are always welcome

>>3189432
Draw what you find interesting and stay the fuck away from here.
If you start to get a liking of the process, come back, post in /beg/, start hating yourself like the rest of us, and draw more boxes. And if you can get through all that, you've already made it.

>>3189424
if it reaches the point where you guys like what i do it will be too late

anyone else use pastels? looking for some advice maybe

>>3189549
Try using a toned ground

>>3189446
You have line weight on the character, but the hatching makes it look sloppy. Slow down and place the lines deliberately. I have to put on music and remind myself to zoom out, look at the whole image and try to approach it in a meditative manner.
You can use the hatch patterns to show forms as well, like in the folds of the cloth. Flattening shapes with a 'fill' of straight lines works well like an atmospheric haze or if you want areas to blend together. But your hatch patterns seem to look arbitrarily drawn.
I just finished pic related a few minutes ago. Granted, it is a different style of hatching and look than your image, but I think the advice is sound. Still working on finding the technique myself.

Inktober stuff

>>3189549
why do you do those weird lines? whats your motive brian

Reposting my sword, help me fix it. My knowledge on metal and reflections is lacking.

>>3189760
https://androidarts.com/art_tut.htm#materials

>>3189549
I suck at pastels but Richard Schmid says to use only one or to layers of strokes, or you lose the texture of the,paper.

>>3189406
looks nice
would hang in living room

>>3189601
I had a specific aesthetic in mind when I went in, but you are completely right and I lazied it up.

Thanks a bunch for the crit!

>>3189766
That wasn't as helpful as I thought it'd be (or maybe I'm just stupid), but thanks.

continuing one from weeks ago

>>3189936
Excellent rendering and use of colors. Would love to see this finished.

>>3189936
nice gamuting

How do I stop turning cute girls into Methhead Grandmas?

Concept for a blue-footed booby type of pacific bird.
Body will follow, but has anyone a favourite so far?
I'd like to hear a few opinions.

are these correct?
redline if not?

>>3190005
stop using meathead grandmas as reference

>>3190023
I like the second one, I'm a sucker for the bright red/blue contrast in most designs when done right. By the way, it's funny how it makes its beak look straight up purple from the thumbnail.

>>3190023
damnit they're all really appealing
1 and 3 are my favs.

>>3190023
I love them all

1 is my favorite I think

>>3189847
thanks
>>3189825
ill try that
>>3189732
just trying to stay busy

here's a watercolor I did of my mom while she was on a conference call

>>3189936
It's clear that you used a reference for the skull, which is good and the only way, but be carefull with the proportions and consistency of construction. Even though I dont know which specy is that animal, I feel like the nose is too small and it looks overall too round and smooth for a skull. Don't bother with my redline if it doesnt fit your reference, it's just to show that your drawing is a bit flat

When it comes to the rendering, Dont overload the image with lightsources, I could not even understand where the green underlight was coming from. Using soo many light just makes your work of keeping a consistent rendering more difficult. I usually work with one light source and at the end I add a rem or extra light(like the butterflies)
The white top light is too strong and you end up working with those ultralight color that hurt my retina.
And on the skull, try to work from big to small. You're trying to render each segment at a time and you end up with all these little brushstrokes(I dont know if I'm explaining that)

Extra stuff that i forgot
-I feel like he's too much of a long boi, but it's not a great problem and maybe i?m wrong
-you should integrate more the skull with the body, like adding hair to the skull and shit
-The ears should go out from behind the eyes (like in the redline)

LET'S MAKE /IC/ GREAT AGAIN!

>>3190005
Quite the harsh shading.

Also butt not big enough and I'd exaggerate her facial expression more.

I r best.

Except for the complete inability to draw a straight line, a smoothly curved line, and circle, radial lines in a circle, maintain proportions, or generally draw.

>>3190255
hey bud at least you know what you need to work on, that's better than half of this board go gettem

>>3190231
Thanks for the crit! I really love how you textured the fur! And pretty much all else. (What brush did you use?)
The reference I used was a fox skull I have next to me. As for the light, the reason it's all over the place it because I couldn't decide if I wanted backlight or light coming from the front right. So it's both. It's one of the things that made me put down the pen for a few weeks as I got tired of dealing with/looking at it.
I will take your crit into consideration and do a paint-over.
Do you have a blog?

>>3190291
Study fabric more, you don't quite know how to paint or draw it yet. Fabric is something you need to really closely observe to understand the way light hits it. It's not like skin.

>>3190321
I cant remember where I got the brush I used, but for what I've done I could have used any, I just chose a random mid-soft brush.
Maybe you have it around. It's good for blocking because it doesn't make hard edges, but rather random soft edges, but if you want to render deeply and detailed you better get some hard-edge brush.
Also, I can understand that it'd be hard to overpaint this all over again for you, so I'd recommend you to do another drawing and apply what I've said, specially If you got tired of this one.

https://www.instagram.com/jordi_milian/

rate

>>3190352
hahaha anon, this is so funny!! Do you want to come to my house and play on my xbox this afternoon?? My big brother bought the new gta and we could play!!

>>3190356
Everyone under 20 years old is an insufferable memer, you're not as far off as you think anon

>>3190361
Hnnnnnng where can I go to figure drawings with women like this

please crit. I need some pointers on what to study.

>>3190367
Why is her hair-line so damn high?
Very lazy cartoony mouth
The nose is just nonsense
Shoulders too small even for stylized
I don't think her right ear should be visible

I still like it though. Good job with the hair and ear

fighting this, had to cut back a lot of the stuff and go back to find the gesture

thanks for the input in the earlier threads, btw

For shits and giggels

Some fanart

>>3190562
why are you adding details when you havent even gotten the basic forms down

>>3190562
Her left hand thumb looks pretty odd almost like she has Frieza toes for fingers..

>>3190562
I love this, do you have a blog? Not memeing or anything.

>>3190675
https://grantsru.tumblr.com/
>>3190608
I'll fix
>>3190605
I already drew her bottom half once, just recently erased it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xgOwDDvMPU&t=21s .

>>3189405
Here's a dump of the past week. Thank god for endless cardboard, 50 cent paint samples, and slow days. Some wips included

>>3190231
Wow
Amazing post

gonna try to do a portrait or still life painting like this. might work better for a landscape though.

>>3190521
alright. i'll look into that also thanks.
(i didn't even notice the hair-line being so high)

14 months since I started realism. That's my latest portrait, based upon an oil painting called The Pink Rose by Charles Amable-Lenoir. I drew her because her face was very beautifiul and pleasant but she looks like a freakish 40 year old. This was my first attempt at drawing a realistic woman and at classical-style art.

>>3190908
Ignore this or just delete it, when I took the picture with my phone it was just fine. I dunno why it came out sideways and with huge dimensions

>>3190892
Brian, you have a mathematicians brain.

>>3190908
>>3190912
I appreciate her skin. It looks very dreamy.

>>3190919
Thank you! The original painting also had that sort of feel, which I was going for.

>>3190255
>I post in draw thread everyone tells me to leave
>then theres this.

>>3190830
>>3189715

I really like these

>>3190595
i think her thumb is a little too long, and it would look more dynamic if the leaves in the back were less uniform in their shape, but overall i like the colour scheme and semi-lineless vibe

>>3190989
Thanks, man!

I feel the need to branch out to a group to help me draw better, cause I've been drawing without much criticism for 2 years

>>3191113
Learn perspective, first of all. You're all over the place here

>>3191072
I fucking love this.

>>3191123
Haha thanks so much dude! If you're interested, I post my stuff here: https://lil-tachyon.tumblr.com/

>>3190352
>theavarageTVposter.jpg
saved

>>3191158
values. you need some contrast on that

gonna do a bigger painting in this style

This is the best drawing I've done in ages. I'm not happy with the torso yet, it's probably going to get a huge re-do. But I am pretty happy with the face.

Not happy with the torso, but this is the best face I've done in ages. I may finally be learning the ball and plane method.

Self portrait, gimme crits please.

>>3191400
The proportions are spot on. The actual strokes need work though, particularly around the bridge of the nose.

>>3191297
I love this. The colouring book style?

>>3191400
Blog? Your stuff is exactly what im trying to accomplish

>>3191407
I hear you, brushwork is actually something I'm trying to improve right now, thanks.
>>3191423
Sure, I don't tend to do a lot of portraits like that one though.
daker-777.tumblr.com

>>3191400
this is pretty cool anon. i think the only thing you need to work on more are the brushstrokes/rendering, but this does look like its still somewhat a wip so maybe youll work on the hair more later, i dont know. i especially like the eyes here.

came out a little different than i was expecting, but i feel like this is one of my more confident pieces

Can anyone tell me if this pose looks alright?

>>3191476
this i really like. you are becoming a master

simultaneously trying to do furry stuff and learn to paint. filename says it all.

>>3191585
furries are horrible and you should stop before you get in too deep. you can still be redeemed. just stop.

>>3190778
Couple things from sketchbook. Seriously have to start working on full figure studies, I feel like I'm stuck doodling people around me and myself all the time.
>>3191072
Love how lively the lines in this are
>>3191476
I've always wondered how you can afford so much paint, but your style's really evolving nicely. Do you usually use black in your work? For some reason I've always had a distaste for it, like it's too pure for depicting "reality" except in certain lighting conditions.
>>3191602
Would read a story book in this style

>>3191034

Thanks for the feedback!

>>3191598
>Don't like what I don't like

>>3190605

he looks clearly skilled enough to get away with it. lots of good artist do this from time to time. looks like he just did the hands, not much actual detail there yet.

>>3191585
Yay for furry stuff.

What I find most helpful for me is to lay out the base colors and use a Multiply layer to add shadows that are a few shades darker. Then I replace the shadow's blackness with a color that I feel works best with the painting and then manually paint from there. I'm still learning how to digitally paint but it's definitely a fun method.

>>3191585
the shading is a but rough but the form is excellent >>3191476
that looks like a classical painting

>>3192231

>>3192232

>>3192233

I want some critique on this, it's the most complete stuff I've done in a while. I'm not going to change anything else, but I want to know what my flaws are and where I can improve. There's a lot to learn and I want some direction now.

idk if ill get temp banned again for this, but i was allowed to do it in the past so idk.

I'm streaming on twitch some small still lifes if anyone wants to watch,

twitch tv bricom40

>>3192266
As a single artwork it doesn't tell a story, and as a character illustration it lacks finish.

To explain the former point, look at book jackets: they evoke a place and actors within it, not just random angryguy.

For the latter, there needs to be another revision of highlighting, cloth detail, fine work on the hair, blurring or fixing of the shoe, to make it work as a character piece. Your modelling is sound within the context of the radical foreshortening, helped, admittedly, by the clothing, but that's fine - its the character. On closer inspection, I might bring the ear out and up a bit, but the expression/eyes are so exaggerated its not a point worth emphasising.

>>3192266
Colors are boring.

>>3192266
You've been working on this piece for a long time. Unless it's a commission or something along that line, I suggest you just stop here and move on to the next painting. You're getting to the point where it's actually detrimental to progress since you're dwelling on one drawing for so long.

>>3192266
it's fine to leave the areas far away from the focal point less rendered, but the feet are just sloppy. take 10 minutes to clean them up a *little*

>>3192323
>>3192266
also, can i have your blog anon?

did a small still life. 8x10

>>3192348
One of your worse ones in recent memory to b honest. Richie Rich still afraid to get out of his comfort zone huh? Come on Moneybags you can do better than that. Step it up Brian Comfortistein

>>3192350
I liked it better when you guys would just greentext isis

>>3192348
Amazing livestream by the way, I hope we can have more fun another day.
Anyway, I think it's a great peace (specially from the thumbnail) and you're still imrpoving at this point.
Maybe the other anon is right that it's the everyday subject, but I can undesrtand that you were trying to do easy cash of something like that( I couldn't hear right), so, as a pure practice piece I think is great

>>3192363
i need a better setup, i feel like most of the actual painting i do get's obscured because I'm in front of the camera. I should just watch some other livestreams and figure out how they do it

>>3192363
Don't encourage this wealthy industrialist further. He should be shamed for exploiting the working class in the very Jewish manner that he has at every opportunity.

>>3192354
You won't get away with oppressing the us with your rapacious business practices much longer you miserly hook nosed shrew.

>>3192368
Is our Brian jewish?

>>3192371
It is known. The fabulously wealthy fop known as Brian Comforti is actually Brian Comfortistein, the heir to the Comfortistein mega-fortune. We are in the presence of hebrew royalty.

>>3192274
Very on point anon, thank you. I'm taking note of all of this. Admitedly, during the thumbnailing phase, I deliberately picked the cool looking pose instead of the one that told a story. Wrong choice, won't happen again.
>>3192307
Yeeeeah been dealing with that problem for a while. Any suggestions regarding studies to get better at it? someone else told me to study screenshots from movies
>>3192321
>>3192323
Oh no it's definitely done, the one I posted is the one I called finished. It was for something with a deadline, so yeah, there's nothing else I can or will do (at least until I decide to post it on my gallery, then I probably will change what I didn't have time to change)
>>3192328
https://www.artstation.com/enzofernandez

>>3192388
I'm sure he's paying minium wage to a bunch of artist to draw his still life's and selfportraits all day, and then he gets the profit and fame. Fucking capitalist pig

>>3192413
It's true I'm very famous

Robert Baratheon. It's not finished yet.

>>3192082
>unironically defending people who want to fuck animals
>"its not about thaaaat waah"
>it so obviously is you fucking zoophile

did this tonight

>>3192547
armor is looking cool but try to avoid shading with black my friend

try selective colour on photoshop to improve the colour scheme

>>3192799
That one's a bit better than your last one, Comfortiberg. Those $300 an hour tutors must be paying off after all. You rich ass nigga. You wealthy son of a b*tch.

>>3192813
kill me

>>3192826
>kill me

Perish the thought.

If you got taken out you'd probably take this country's economy with you. You opulent oligarch. You golden, gilded glutton. Don't even joke about such a thing.

Critique? The saliva looks like cum snot. Where can I learn about rendering water?

How's this ? Still getting used to using a tablet

>>3192547
This is way too ambitious for your current skill level. The light is all over the place and so are the reflections on the armor. What do you want to show in the background? Is that a forest fire?
Also, color scheme is fucked. You need to plan better when you tackle an artwork like this.

Its not done, but I’m going to stop working on it, only because I see major issues with the composition and perspective that are deterring me from completing it. I’ll need to start structuring my drawings better if I want to improve.

>>3192997
Maybe he's just blocking in, is way too early to comment.

So yeah, he shouldn't be posting it at this phase.

>>3190231
Nek?

>>3193009
Her boob(+that bit of ribcage) is bothering me to no end. I really really like the rest, it's pretty good, which is why that one part of the drawing needs to be changed to something that makes more sense and is more appealing. Find some nice sidebooob reference from a similar angle.

>>3193051
What's nek?

>>3192927
Got the original reference?

>>3192927
You have a tongue
You have a phone

>>3193086
The ting holding your hed

Hi guys, making a wedding card for my niece. I'm horrible at colours so I wanted to know if there's anything I can do to improve this. Any other feedback on anatomy or whatever is welcome as well, of course. Thanks!

>>3193220
Is it a lesbo marrige?

did this plein air today

Holy shit is there alot to learn

>>3193337
woof

>>3193220
The dog inbetween them is a bit too cool for the warm key the rest of the painting is in.

>>3193178
Huh!

Tongue-phone!

>>3193220
its good. but since im anonymous, i get to say that everything looks fairly derpy. but your family will probably love it.

>>3193355
Feels like it gives a good balance to offset how warm everything is.

>>3193178
HUH

Tongue-phone!

>>3193009
Do you get inspiration from Street Fighter? I swear that fits right in. I've learned to love the large hands and feet.

did a study of a drawing I admire while converting it to color to practice inventing color while studying the drawing, too.

>>3193417
wow this is amazing
love your skin tones
the white is a little chalky

>>3193325
did more to this. tried to even out the brushstrokes and enhance the colors

>>3193325
did more to this, posted it a second ago but the image was all stretched out for some reason

some pig

>>3193432
needs more nipples

>>3193340
???

>>3192606
chill familia. i like animal features (ears, tails) because i think they're cute. doesn't mean i want to fuck my cat.

>>3192183
Yay indeed

Thanks for the advice. I've just been going off one layer, seems to be working ok but i imagine separating stuff into layers makes the whole process a lot faster. +I suck at colours so might help with that too. Do you paint in photoshop?

>>3193430
love this. your style is awesome.

>>3193220
Could you maybe fix the guys right arm/hand?
It's one of the first things a notice and it looks bad.

>>3193450
I use Krita, which is similar. At the very least, I use 3 layers: the base colors, the multiply shadow layer, and a third layer where I just paint over everything based on the base and shadows. I also tend to use a lineart layer (which is usually a scan of a sketch) to help guide the process and paint over it.

>>3193453
thanks

did another landscape at sunset

>>3190005
some points where you can easily see you've made mistakes: head is too big, limbs are too thin, butt too small/ not the same curve, the curve of the left hip to the thigh (at the waistband of her shorts), back band of the sports bra, pay attention to how clothing can give you hints at form. i would suggest nailing your proportions and only working in lines (no shading) until you get them down. you've put effort and time into shading, but since you have so many errors with proportions, you'll have to redo areas anyways. take a little more time to plan.

>>3190291
you have a beautiful figure, but the surroundings look pretty rushed/bad. apply the same effort to the whole piece, or at least
dont leave it looking sloppy. also work those feet a little more next time, they look like sausages.

>>3191748
i love your line quality so much, she looks so soft!!

>>3191748
a lot of your faces look the same, im guessing a lot of those are self portraits, but even in the ones where its not, kind of is reminiscent of you. maybe take a break from drawing yourself and focus on different features.

>>3192547
that halo around the figure, y, you have layers, there shouldn't be a white space around yr figure

Critiques? Suggestions?
Specially about colors and the background

>>3193666
Delicious illustration, but it bothers me that he has no cast shadow on the earth.

>>3193666
Lovely. I agree about the cast shadow and his right hand could be improved. It looks kinda stiff.

Who else /dinovember/ here?

>>3193337
From far away it looks good

>>3193297
No, they're just French.
>>3193355
I see what you mean, I'll give him some warmth.
>>3193362
Yes, I totally agree. I played it pretty safe, especially to make it family friendly. Maybe I do some Terry Richardson shit on the back of the card.
>>3193464
Good call. Now I'm noticing it too.

Thanks guys!

>>3193015
No he' not. Blocking in doesn't have you render out a figure and make the background a mess. Even when blocking in you should at least have good values, colors and all the other stuff right but this looks like polishing a turd already. He's better off starting again

>>3193666
Great. The colouring and his posture are very strong. I would recommend adding slightly more vibrance to the dark part of his pants, because now they seem to belong more to the background instead of the character.

Do you happen to have a public portfolio? Would love to see more.

>>3193220
That's awesome.
I'm not too keen on the blue/red combo, maybe try tinting the blue more towards green for a complementary palette?

Here's a quick take on the dog - the ribcage is not this thick and the legs begin more on the side than on the bottom of the body, but I'd really recommend using a ref.

>>3193666
Great illustration, would look right at home in most print publications. Figure maybe could be crisper hard to tell at this size/res.
>>3193432
Looking very good so far, enjoying the definition of the forms. Keep on rendering it out because the photo element of the straps is distracting compared to the rest being unfinished.
>>3193220
Another nice illustration, however I feel like the male figure is a little stiff in his pose

>>3189760
sword looks really short. I think the perspective is kind of fucked. Stretch it out

>>3190255
okay well first off, the neck on the boy is way too small. I like the hair but the weird shading under both of the necks look like chokers.

Second, the facial shape of men and women are not the same. Look at references for anime girl faces. The jaw on your girl is so strong that it ruins the decent face and hair you drew.

The bike is fine. both wheels are going into the ground which isn't how they work but whatever. The more I look at it the worse it gets so I'm gonna leave you with that.

>>3190291
the shadows on the figure are very harsh, which might have been what you were going for.

>>3190908
the nose and mouth are too small

>>3191481
i think the right arm is too short.

>>3193675
>>3193702
>>3193981
>>3194102
Thank you and noted!
I don't have a portfolio yet, but I am working on it, since I want to get illustration jobs soon.
Meanwhile you can see some of my stuff on my tumblr:
https://www.menesland.tumblr.com

critique so far?

>>3194189
Loving the hair and face, but what the heck is her left forearm doing? See if you can also touch up her right hand, the anatomy is just off.

>>3193367
underrated post

>>3193835
don't lie

>>3192997
>>3193952
this x100


>>3191602
comfy af

>>3191585
need to learn to draw first, but since you want to focus on painting in color I'll try to give some advice out

You're approaching color in the wrong way.
Right now all the colors are the same hue, and you need to think about temperature of the lighting.

Say we've got a base material floating around in space with no lighting.

If we add a lightsource hitting one of the planes of the object, the colors will shift towards the temperature of the object. This will basically end up like (warm lighting = cool shadows, cool lighting = warm shadows).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErI7gIWzxlY
https://youtu.be/MVafJfV5xhI

Another thing- as you work in color you should be remembering to keep values from falling apart:
http://www.artofscholes.com/checkingvalues/


Fianlly, a minor nitpick but i find its nearly impossible(for me) to observe good values/colors on a pure white background.


>>3191158
think you're spot rendering a bit too hard, figure the body out first.

I personally like the super muted values but right now your darkest darks/focal point end up around the lips instead of the eyes (more common focal point in portraiture)

curious why you were looking for critique when the torso is that unresolved, seems people will either nitpick the face or point out the torso.

>>3190830
is this baby grach

>>3190562
finish things [/bully]

>>3190367
construction, lighting, edge control

nose is bending towards and not in line with the face


>>3189972
bigfriendlyninja?

Do these faces look good or nah?

A concept sheet for a robot I designed a few months ago.

did this for as long as i could, too tired to continue today. this might offer some insight into my process, i usually don't post unfinished things.

>>3194239
They are decent, good work!

WIP

>>3189601
work on your faces my dude

>>3194285
>not painting back to front

Lmao

working on this

>>3194293
i like it

yall like this peach i did?

>>3194364
not enough animu or mangoe?

is my shit readable to you? i know that my values are too dark but i kinda like the feel of it, please tell me what you think

trying to make my artwork more arbitrary

>>3194463
I'm into it. Cool fruit anon.

>>3194492
unreadable thumbnail

im trying to lrn2paint

top quality thread bois

>>3194580
Is it just me or did you make your purple shadow into black

>>3194243
Looks a bit generic, like some sort of mix of Chappy and that robot from mass effect and robots from Portal 2.
Is it just a random sketch or do you have some sort of a setting/world in mind for the character?
I would also suggest you create a moodboard for technological and mechanical stuff that is less common to draw inspiration from there instead of the popular
>iphone with wires
design philosophy so popular with robots right now.
Also his silhouette is not that interesting to be honest, it just seems to be a generally humanoid shape with his back bent inwards.
Good luck anon.

>>3194239
left eye seems to be a bit flat on the guy with the open mouth, but other than that they are alright

>>3193417
Are you a pro? This is great.

>>3193432
You either need to remove the texture from the straps and just paint the texture or apply some sort of texture to the skin in places, because it's very distracting.
Also I feel like his legs are too much behind his gut, to me it looks like he wouldn't be able to keep his balance.
Otherwise it looks super cute.

>>3192266
The form of the sword is a bit off, it's bent to the side slightly and the tip of the sword is off, it would be higher I think.
Right now it looks like someone grabbed the sword beforehand and bent it out of shape a little.
Also I remember when you did the Dicaprio portait, you've improved a lot more than I did in this time, good job.

>>3194465
i'm just gonna tell you that it doesn't look good.

>>3194787
worst critique ever, gimme some actionable intel, nigger

>>3194800
here's a good tut

>>3194810
this
>>3194465
is where I asked if it wasn't animu or mango enough

>>3194046
Although their dog is pretty fat I can see what you mean, your pose looks a lot more convincing than mine. Shows that I should indeed use more reference. Thanks!
>>3194102
As he is in real life, but maybe I can liven him up a bit.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgHvpbAE70JOlcDxeLN-ViQeLf98cIn-v

>>3194580
stop fiddling with so many brushes

simplify the forms and slowly build up


>>3194830
awful, spend less time making videos and more time learning how to draw

>>3194800
>>3189601
you aren't using construction on the faces, and the facial features are slopping out of perspective. your hatching is nice but it looks like its covering up a general lack of understanding of how construction and features rest inside of the skull.

>>3194800
>>3194465
also I should add, you're making yourself look like a twat by calling people niggers and jumping to assumptions as to why the figures don't look great.

Keep in mind you're YEARS from being in a good spot with your drawing ability (with hours of daily practice) and learn to be fucking humble.

>>3194861
don't be a sensitive cunt, it's a term of endearment here, nigger. Thanks for the input.

This is how I set up my construction. Any tips?

>>3194868
then I did this, but the heads must have gotten lost some where. holler

>>3194868
not giving you feedback anymore. good luck

>>3194884

>>3194293
Dope! Not sure about the insect tho.

Attempted this without reference, lots of stuff wrong with it, but feel slightly more comfortable figuring out lighting etc.

>>3194868
>it's a term of endearment here, nigger.

no it isn't, retard, this isn't b/pol

>>3194573
Yeah I screwed up and jumped straight into the big picture, how about the big picture, the vertical magic line things? Do they make it confusing?

>>3190365

>>3195059
That's just like, your opinion my niggro

>>3192266
I really love it.
also i have no idea how to draw a sword in perspective. But all in all i wanted to give it a bit more energy. but yeah...i'm not sure i'm at a level were i can help you.

>>3195044
ok good, now try paint the same thing but with references.

>>3195181
those gums are still trying to escape his mouth. a solid color would look better

progress on this

>>3195181
you have to blur the tip

did the rest from memory

>>3195133
This board is 18+

>>3195133
>2017
>Linking your work to dumb racial slurs

I guess natural selection you take care of you

>>3195729
Impressionism is bae. I wish I could pull it off. Love your colour choices on the water. I feel like you pushed your darker colours too much on top, and now my eye gets drawn to it without it being the focal point.

>>3192266
I like it a lot. Would watch my edge control on the eyes. The air-like shading doesn't match the rest of the drawing. I wish I was that dynamic.

>>3191602
Lovely work. Do you have a blog?


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This one's a level up moment for me, but I'm still making so many mistakes. Afraid I'm gonna fuck up at the end. I've asked for so much advice and critiques because I'm insecure as shit. Hoping to have it finished by tonight so I can move on. Critiques more than appreciated. Feel free to redline or overpaint if you're feeling generous.

the jacket and shirt parts look flat as fuck but give me some spicy critique anyways blease

>>3196245
Stick to pencil drawing for a bit instead of inks. Easier to fix errors. Don't forget your paper isn't an infinite canvas. Define where you want your drawing to be from the start so you don't end up with composition errors like cutting off heads and hats unintentionally. It helps me when I create a frame on my paper before I start, like a comic panel, so I know what my top and bottom parts are. It's much easier to add shit after you establish a point of reference on your canvas.

Lines have a direction for a reason. They're used to guide your viewer's eye and to showcase light and form. Right now you're quite directionless. I struggle with this as well, to be honest. If you want to see a master of inking that uses heavy lines you should check out Sergio Toppi.

Finally don't be lazy when you draw. Every line matters. Know what you want and where, so I don't have to look at your eagle's ribbon going over its lined face.

Do a lot of black and white studies, where you simplify forms. Mike Mignola is a very strong artist when it comes to this, to grasp how contrast should be used when inking.

>>3196249
Thank you. And yeah my main weakness in my laziness, I really need to stop rushing this shit. And to be honest I don't even like inking all that much, I just like hatching lines a lot and in ink it looks a lot better than in pencil. Inking makes me fucking anxious exactly for the reasons you describe. I tend to take too much time on long lines and they become jiggly and ugly while with hatching I can't be bothered to take my time with it like a smart person.

>>3193432
i like this but i gotta say it looks like he is a centaur type being with his front legs removed

>>3193432

His spine looks like its twisting too far in the back, creates this very disbalanced appearance. The hips seem like they're a full head-width behind the shoulders. If this is intentional, then he should should be clutching that knife more tightly, as his weight would be pitched towards it.

>>3196272
>>3196262
shit I guess I'm not getting away with those legs am I? I'll figure them out, thanks anons.

I just tried this, but man these rocks suck. Any help?

Drawn at a Barnes & Noble waiting on someone to pick up a commission.

Sorry for the shitty cell phone pic.

>>3196292
Values, values, values, anon.

>>3196295
I like the lines a lot more than the colours

>>3196295
not keen on the style as it is, it's like you're trying to go grungy but just not pushing it enough

same with the flatness, i can't tell if you're going for 2d flat or 3d looking characters,, it's very much lacking in construction. just imagine the character was turned slightly, everything would look out of wack

>>3196309
That's actually really helpful, I feel like I've been stuck artwise for a hot minute.

Do you have any suggestions on how I can push things further? Feel free to be brutal, I need it.

>>3196229
>the artist and the artwork are the same
>he engages in wrongthink

>>3194540
First of all, no fucking idea what that is supossed to be. Secondly, even though it's arbitrary you should at least pay attention to composition, which is all over the place. For example, that weird stick in the middle dividing the image into half does absolutely nothing for you.

>>3196333
Your work is a signature and everything gets archived on here. Eventually you get good enough that o where you have to filter what you say or go full shadman

For a anniversary fanzine.

>>3196383
isn't the left one alia?

The people in this thread are way better than me, so I have a question.
Do you guys study/have you studied art while listening to music? Would you say it helped? Even if it didn't, did it get in the way of you studying it properly?

>>3196410
Depends on the music for me. Jazz, classical or video game sountracks are usually my best bet. Rock and pop make me anxious for some reason when I work. I need some semblance of quiet. Ironically I enter zen mode and work more efficiently while having something that's easy to watch on the side, like Scrubs or Burn notice, dumb shows that I don't need to focus on.

This is shit I know. You don’t have to tell me that. How do I improve from this? Also I’m stuck with drawing busts as I can’t draw hands or the human figure

>>3194786
>>3195181
>>3196244
Hey, thanks for the feedback guys. Coming back to this thread -and looking at my drawing again after almost a week of not doing so- I can totally see what you're saying, and I can also see some more stuff I hadn't noticed myself. It's about looking at it with fresh eyes. There's always that potential problem for art, and I don't know if any of you guys know how to fix it besides good old "flip the canvas", but I wanted to talk a bit about this and see what you guys think/do about it. For example, I swear the the sword looked so correct all this time, but now I look at it with fresh eyes and I can see it so clearly that I kinda want to 3D-print it and stab myself with it. And now I see issues like that everywhere else, the ear, the foot, the hair, some of the proportions etcetera. Are any art books adressing that kind of thing? or are we expected to just spot the flaws as we keep on gitting gud and rely on time breaks and flipping the canvas? sorry for the mini-rant, I wanted /ic/'s opinion on the topic.

Also I can't believe someone remembers me for that Dicaprio portrait, that's pretty cool, I'm glad to see the same anons are still coming here somewhat regularly.

bit of a giraffe neck, but have gotten the reference from here so thought I´d share it

Does anyone have any recommendations for some sort of application/plugin/service that allows you to post to multiple sites at once? Just looking for some options here.

>>3194492

>>3196460
That looks super good if it ask me. Captures a lot of emotion and feeling that original picture had. Are you using gouache or water colors?

>>3189549

Absolutely beautiful!

>>3196387
Yeah.
I wanted to add her for composition things (little one on middle and two large ones next to her) and she kinda follows the "red character blonde hair" thing.

so I wasted kinda a lot of time on that but still get a feeling there is something generally done wrong.
any ideas?

>>3194463
well guess it not just the emoji. really has something assy about it.

>>3196537
learn drawing before going into colours. especially so drastic colors. try something harmonous instead.

>>3196540
Thanks for feedback, but could you be more specific on what i should learn first? or is that my shit is just fucked up beyond repair on all levels (forms, lighting, shades)?

>>3196552
It's all fucked up, but it depends on you if it's beyond repair, just go through the sticky and try again in a year or so

i painted a house

>>3196571
wait a minute.. that's MY HOUSE

>>3196572
Wait a minute... IM A HOUSE!

>>3196571
youve been posting here for so long, but your work still looks like childrens crayon drawings..

>>3196571
I do like thick and clear brushstrokes, but the obvious hatching always kills it for me.

>>3196599
Yeah on this one I feel the same, I'm gonna paint it again tomorrow and take a more planar approach

>>3196587
i told him his garbage art looks like high school drawings

>>3196292
rip grape kun

>>3196658
friendly reminder that i used to actually literally paint and draw like a child 4 years ago

>>3196673
fa m thats actually better than what you currently draw. not even fucking memeing. it doesnt have those shitty hatching lines that dont contribute to anything on your paintings, no one here but you understands what those shitty lines are for, they dont indicate line, form, gesture, unity, balance or have any kind of meaning to them, theyre just random lines.

still having some troubles with the proportions of the neck. and also I still can't draw hands accurately from imagination. I didn't want to use reference.

This painting is from imagination, I would like a critic if you guys have time. Red lines anything.

>>3196678
that is literally a drawing with random lines, stop trying to meme

i did more to this, filled out the areas between the hatching more.

>>3196682
Final version.

>>3190036
ISHYGDDT

>>3196708
ur meme drawing is better than what youre doing now kid
can you get that through your thick head?

>>3197003
do you even know which paintings in this thread are mine other than that house? go ahead and (you) them for me I'm just curious.

>>3197012
ive been barking at your art for years, u never listen

>>3196876
I'd like to help but that's the best i can do. Hands are tricky. I'm struggling with it all the time

>>3190005
It's stiff and uncertain. Learn gesture and anatomy properly and try to construct instead of "drawing out". Exaggerate! This ref is begging to be exaggerated. I'm seeing a big pinch in her back and more of a head cock.Good luck anon I like fit thicc grills too.

WIP, not too sure bout the colours and lighting

>>3197296
Really strong atmosphere and rendering. I do have to admit that the creepiest part of the image is the pupils, because the shape of them and the volume of the eyeballs just feel like I'm staring into chasms. Are they supposed to have irregular shapes or were you conveying fear?

>>3197304
Thank you! I was actually imitating the rick and morty styled pupils because i thought it was cute.

>>3197296

I like both versions, but after reviewing it a bit more carefully, I realized that the lined version looks better in almost aspects, save for one- the monster.

One element of horror that I feel is underutilized is definition, or rather, the lack of. I'm actually very curious to see what the image would look like if you just removed the lines from the monster.

>>3197296
>Rick and Morty blotter eyes

Yuck

>>3197296
Overall looks good. Nice linework, clean blending, really cool lighting setup. The lined version is much stronger now, but that may be because you aren't done painting yet.
The kid's pupils clash with the rest of the style. All the lines are clean and the rendering is smooth, but you have these crude pupils and the monster's eyes have an iris and a pupil, but the human kids don't?
One other thing is the two kid's perspective. At their feet, they stand on the same plane shoulder to shoulder, but at their heads red hood kid is standing in front of brown hair kid. If you move brown hair kid more behind red hood kid, not a lot, but a bit of clipping, it would also sell his mood and add some more character.
In the thumbnail, the value of the kid's bodies blend into the monsters body putting them in the same space. Increasing the range on the kids or decreasing the range on the monster would separate them.
When you are satisfied with the painting experiment with some texture brushes, not so much as to leave the cartoony look. But, enough to add some grit or dirt the environment or the monster. Don't forget to bring those slimy drool strands to the top of the line work, they clip behind the lines on top monster's mouth.

>>3197383
I'm actually planning on fully rendering the image without lines, the lineless version is pretty rough, tho. Plus I'm still wondering if the colour palette is a little too bland

>>3197296
They're both *buuuurp* crap because.... .. because... life doesnt mean anything..... your art is pointless *BURRRP* just.... just kill yourself

I have no idea what I'm doing

>>3197417
Forgot to make image smaller sorry

>>3197417
are you trying to figure out how to paint in values?
Start simpler. Start with simplified geometric forms. Pic is a very pared down step by step, there are hours of tuts on YT about painting. Sinix, among others, has good tips about how to think about approaching this.

>>3197442
Yea I'm trying to learn it digitally, thanks bro I really needed that.

>>3197446
I'm still learning too. Since you are digital you have access to the 'levels' window. I'm in PS and not familiar with other programs. Using the levels window you can check your value range, one tips I've heard many times is to stay away from pure black or pure white. Use them very sparingly in places where you want the most detail or highest contrast. It's a very deep subject, but is worth learning well and colors become easier (so I've heard) when you can control your values.

>>3197390
Thanks for the input! I'll post an updated version later on!

>>3196486
Thank you. Just using watercolours atm

Currently reworking a previously unfinished pic. Adding new rough lineart so I can digitally paint a different pose. Though the main goal previously was to practice values, I'll probably simplify things more to help myself out this time around.

>>3197025
who are you again?

painted this from a window while it rained outside.

>>3197478
watercolor edges make me HNNGGG

>>3197442
looks like a beg made that. no one works like this

>>3197637
He did say he was learning himself but do you have something to help us both out with grayscale digital art anon?

>>3197637
I do

It's a pretty typical practice to block in the major shadow shapes first, then go on to differentiate the half tones. It's crucial to have a good system for defining values when you go on to do stuff from imagination.

DESTROY ME /IC/ i need to improve a looott

>>3197478
>>3196460
vnice
sauce on yellow girl?

>>3197792
I like the way each one has their own personality,but the colors used are very ugly

>>3197792
it looks like you're decent at rendering some forms but why are you so bad at everything else? I think you need some direction and you could be pretty great, but this looks like a collab between a decent artist and cwc.

>>3197792
Learn to paint values, it's weird because you kinda did them decently with some characters like the girl in the top left, but then you have like the 4th dude on the bottom row, with so little contrast and boring values that you'd think you are trying to hide him or something. Remember this: Contrast leads the viewer's attention. Push your values, make the lightest parts lighter and the darkest parts darker. Take the pic I attached and zoom it out, notice how the right version pops out a lot more than the left one.
But anyway, hopefully I get the point across somewhat, I still recommend you to look at videos by other people that explain it better than I do, in particular I recommend that you search for "Swatches Art fundamentals: values" on youtube.
Certainly you have other problems with your drawings apart from values, so I recommend you just generally keep learning all about art fundamentals and just keep practicing.
Anyway good luck and btw the chick in the bottom right is very cute.

i did more to this

Critique? real critique, not just one-liners.

current linework

>>3190161
use a bigger brush, more water. focus on the bigger shapes of light and shadow. practice for longer on something simple like the bowl of fruit next to some natural light.

>>3194810
that face on the right never fails to crack me up

>>3189601
you're not ready to give critique. you're polishing turds. hiding poor drawing skill behind heavy handed hatching. i would stick to pencils for a bit. really think about perspective and proportion before laying down finishing strokes. i'm not saying this to shit on you. you have some skill and feeling for drawing. just don't get ahead of yourself.

>>3194189
torso way too long. you need to finalise the anatomy before refining and rendering. bite the big bullet. and please no textured brush shit or whatever that is at the top. she looks hot though

>>3197637
what's wrong with it? how do you work?

>>3199433
how come no one ever posts the new thread in these old threads