/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Is the anatomy in fun with a pencil accurate to draw realistically or should I get figure drawing for all it's worth for learning realistic anatomy? I feel like 80% of fun with a pencil is cartoony. I don't want to draw cartoony but realistic.

>>2825773
forgot pic.

>>2825773

Simple cartooning is a great way to start when learning to draw from imagination imo.

How do I git gud at drawing?

>>2825781
But I'm a beginner, I'm not supposed to draw from imagination yet and I don't want to.

>>2825788
Its not that you're not supposed too not draw from imagination. if you never draw from imagination you wont get better at it, and then you will end up like Proko.
You have to sometimes try to draw from imagination, ofc not only from imagination but try to make a balance between drawing from imagination and studying from life.
I myself do it like this, i study anatomy etc..and at night when im finished studying, i just draw personal stuff from imagination.

>>2825788
Who is spreading this dumbass meme?

>>2825794
Ok, alright I'll draw from imagination too. But I'm not getting cartoony, it's not my goal.

But answer this: Should I get figure drawing for all it's worth for realistic anatomy construction method or not?

>>2825795
I read it every where. Here, youtube, even deviantart, believe it or not.

>>2825800
Oh, and I don't like hampton.

>>2825800
Fun with a pencil is more only how to get the basic on how Construction works, its nothing more.

So yes, you should get figure drawing for all its worth, and yes you, even if you dont like hampton, should go through his book on Constructing Anatomy.

Did a Figure from the old thread.

>>2825820
Sorry for the late reply but is vilppu or bridgman a good alternative to hampton? If not, I have no option but go with hampton.

I think I might be autistic.

>>2825788
>not supposed to draw from imagination yet

Goddamn stupid brain won't stop symbol drawing, even though I know I'm supposed to just draw what I see. I try to draw what I see, and it comes out all symbols anyway. I spend so much time just to fuck it up, get annoyed and fuck more things up because I just want to be done with it.

>>2825913
Why not do some construction first?

>>2825947
circles and ellipses are too much for me. I'm just worried I'll put down construction and not be able to get it right anyway. I like following contours though.

kill me

>>2825952
ngmi

>>2825954
pls no bully. I just do this for personal enjoyment

I watched proko's videos on head construction but it's intimidating. I also watched sailboat head guy's video and I can't get that sailboat shape right so idk

>>2825757
Hey, anyone knows where I can find a collection of old master's paintings, sculpture and drawings? I need it for an assignment on gesture drawing.

Or at least where I can find a collection of these easily.

Please.

>>2825961
Dude, so you want to get better at drawing? You wanna stop drawing in symbols? Then learn construction, learn ellipses..Do drawABox.
You wont get passed this, you have now the chance to get good at it now..so you don't have that problem in the future anymore and actually get good.
Or you just don't do it and you will be shit for as long as you draw.
Fuck it if it doesn't come out the way you like it at first, but this problem won't go away.
So JUST DO IT.

>>2825970
I did the first lesson on DAB and then the guy told me to do 250 boxes. I got bored halfway through that and quit drawing for months because I didn't take the time to draw for myself what I wanted to draw. I guess I need to find a balance between serious study and drawing what I want for fun. Whatever, sorry for blog

>>2825913
You're focusing too much on the tiny details of the face. Start big. Start with gesture sketching. Just get down the IDEA of what you see first and begin to recognise the big shapes.
Just go quickly and don't give yourself the time to try and call back on your memory. Also don't just draw two; just go at it and keep going. Don't worry about finishing anything for exercises, either.

>tfw studied loomis faces for months
>nail it down (more or less), capable of copying his heads, create my own, draw from imagination
>tfw didn't study the rest of the anatomy

Now I have decent faces on disgusting bodies and I kinda wanna die. Loomis body anatomy is a pain.

I gave up halfway through.

how are my lines?

>>2826061
They're mostly solid and fluid, but the opacity is low and will make the colour look strange at the edges (between character and background especially).
If you're not a weeb, I'd recommend using more line weighting (changing the thickness of the lines) in order to draw attention around the drawing properly. Currently, your line weighting looks completely random. Make lines thicker to draw attenion. Thinner to look more 'soft'. I like to outline very thickly around the character to 'pull' them from the background, but that's just my choice.
Also, you're using too much saturation in the red you got down.

>>2826070
I wanna get lines like this. Doesn't seem to use thickness. And the red is just for seeing how it looks

>>2826070
>>2826074
Here is an earlier practice i did. Is there anything I did here that I didn't do in the ones I had posted?

>>2826074
That one is using line weighting differently than I described; look at the hatching and cross hatching. The darker the area is, the thicker the lines are. This looks more line a sketch, though, whereas you're doing more clean lineart so far. >>2826077
The one all the way to the right looks like it's including a lot more detail all the way through, whereas the others are simple, if that's what you mean by what you did/didn't do. Sorry if I misunderstood. I think the one on the right looks pretty good, although I recommend practising feet/hands, even if they are a bitch. (You have to start doing them sometime and they won't get easier if you don't practise.)

>>2825988
I like it anon!

Is there a decent portable, digital thing that can work as sketchbook that is affordable? Everyone mentions carry one with you but I'd love to be able to do digital art on the go

>tfw everyone bullies Jazza and calls him an unskilled meme
>tfw one of his vids about construction popped up just now and really helped me a lot and pointed out what I was doing wrong

>>2826083
I'm wondering what the one on the right did that needs to be worked on in the original.

>>2826113
I've heard a lot about this https://www.amazon.com/Apple-iPad-32GB-Wi-Fi-Space/dp/B0155OCLWK/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&qid=1447944334&sr=8-5&keywords=ipad+pro&linkCode=sl1&tag=ic0c7-20&linkId=cd57527206cf7f92a54144664bcd7117 and this https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Surface-Pro-Intel-Core/dp/B01606KJ6C/ref=as_li_ss_tl?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1447945019&sr=1-5&keywords=surface+pro+4&linkCode=sl1&tag=ic0c7-20&linkId=b973b8291d634a33fbef458f9acbd00a but I dunno if I can tell you much about either, but you can look into them

>>2826118
The detailing on the anatomy. If you notice, you went lighter on but also included the details of the body. You need to do the same with the clothing, I believe, to give it a better form.

>>2826124
and how would i know where to put thick and thin lines on the clothing linework?

>>2826115
No rules.
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Just.

Tools.

>>2826129
Folds. You leave less folds where clothes are pressed to things, but more where they're loose. Folds can be thought of almost like V-shapes; the V points to where the clothing is crimpled.

>>2826142
and what about the body?

>>2826139
lookin good!
it's hard to say without seeing your reference, but I think you could benefit from having a little more contrast, ie: darker shadows and possibly brighter highlights. it'll make your forms read better and more distinctly from each other.

I've been drawing all of my life, but I've recently started a sketch book and I'm trying to do a lot of studies. I've posted here before and some say I'm not a beginner, but I am. Maybe beginner-intermediate? I don't know. I would suggest everyone use Loomis references.

>>2826169
I should say very on and off my whole life, until now

>>2826139
edges in shadow can be softer

>>2825913
>I try to draw what I see, and it comes out all symbols anyway.
That's what it does.

Draw more boxes and spheres.

>>2826169
thats pretty good

>>2826325
Hey, thanks. I'm starting to focus on art a lot more these days and I'm drawing something every day at least.

Can I get some thoughts about this angry cowgirl, before I start cleaning up and redoing shadows?

>>2825861
Vilppu's books plus Proko's videos complement eachother very well.

>tfw will never be as fresh as hampton

>>2826380
Eye on the left is bigger than the other one, nose is a bit too big, thick outlines make this drawing look cartoonish, chin seems too pointy and your hair is ugly.
But other than that it's a good work!

>>2826390
Yeah I didn't really try with the hair and I push down way too hard with my pencil
But thanks mate

>>2826390
It's objectively not good work when someone's symbol drawing. I understand you want to be positive but don't be unrealistic.

>>2826380
Symbols everywhere. Learn proper facial construction for fucks sake.

>>2826427
>proper facial construction
>used hampton's method and a bit of reilly

Post your work and then please show me how not to "symbol" meme

>>2826380
Please use Loomis and actually learn some facial construction. Be loose with your drawings also.

>>2826432
The eyes are the obvious symbol-drawn feature here. Although you attempted to do facial construction and put the features in the right place, the features themselves are overtly simplified-- there is no flow. The face, as a result of you drawing each feature as an individual, appears stiff.

Don't dismiss any criticism with a childish "well i bet you can't do any better xxddD" meme. Dismissing criticism leads to stagnation, no matter how harsh it may be. Evaluate your work.

>>2826447
Couldn't have said it better myself.

>>2826447
Oh no I wasn't dismissing your criticism, I enjoy criticism but just spouting "symbol drawing" like all the other meme masters on here isn't helping at all.

Anyway thanks for trying to help me.

>>2826488
But surely if you knew what symbol drawing was and are aware that it's frowned upon you shouldn't be doing it? My best advice is to just look at the picture. Look at angles. Try to draw as messily as possible and then rework your lines. Think about how the face would actually work. These are my studies:
>>2826169

I would highly recommend picking apart something before diving right in. For example I worked on some eyes, nose, mouth, etc.

>>2826161
how's everybody doin today

>>2826566
I could be better. I'm trying to figure out how to get better at drawing instead of painting. Lines are apparently too much for me.

How's my linework?

I have a really stupid question to ask. Haven't found much on google. How do you draw a human figure when your guy is partially off-screen? Should I just draw the full body then crop it?

>>2826568
yeah man I feel you. I've been having the opposite problem, too much lineart and not enough attention to color/light.
Been trying to grind out some paintings to fix that

>>2826573
You're getting somewhere but you're not quite there yet. Remember that lineart doesn't just describe the contours/outline of something but the shape/form of it as well.
Like pic related is a bit messier than you may be going for, but it uses lineart to show how forms move and shift throughout the figure, not just the outlines.

>>2826589
More like this? Too scratchy?

>>2826607
definitely definitely too scratchy. when doing hatching, be more thoughtful about each line that you're putting down. they should move over the 3d form of whatever it is your drawing, not just be randomly slapped down wherever.
You could also definitely benefit from having more variation in your line widths

>>2826335
Bump.

>>2826169
is this...the power of loomis?

>>2826615
I have a Wacom Intuos Draw and I'm using medibang paint pro?
Should I use something else? It's coming out nowhere like those

is sycra better than photoshop?

Hey, just started, I just bought "Keys to Drawing" are there any other books that you would suggest. I'm a little over whelmed, so where to start?

>>2825760
Tried to draw this one. Please gibe pointers !! I've been told to avoid Loomis until I get more experienced with fundies

>>2826647
I'm not too familiar with medibang, but a default brush in pretty much any drawing program could get results like that as long as you're making mindful, intentional strokes.
part of getting good lineart is learning to stop chicken scratching and actually care about your lines.

>>2826566
I feel like shit. I tried drawing a cityscape for half an hour before realizing that's way beyond my skill level. I added some exercises so I could submit it to LAS, but I'm still feeling pretty shitty about it and I think I might get disqualified for being so awful.

Continue or give up and move on?

>>2826695
Continue.

>>2826693
hey man, I believe in you! perspective is universally considered one of the hardest things to draw (why do you think so many people avoid drawing backgrounds?)
just keep grindin and you'll make it eventually!

Not gonna make it?

>>2826720
>tfw this anon draws better than you
If I can make it, you can make it.

>>2826720
reference?

>>2825758
howd i do?

>>2826731
keys to drawing

>>2826161
i really like this!

Practicing loose sketch. Maybe too loose...

>>2825913
Had your problem
Try 'Drawing on the right side of the brain'

>>2825961
>I just do this for personal enjoyment
being a beginner is hell. wanting to draw things that are beautiful, that are mighty, that are dignified and only being able to draw ignoble and putrid things is fucking pain. how can you enjoy this?

>>2826766
You enjoy knowing that you'll one day be able to explore your dreams should you never give up. It's a relief that most people in the world will never achieve because drawing isn't something of value to them. They would much rather prefer something else.

>>2825766
I tried.. Advice?

>>2826766
>how can you enjoy this?
i don't that's why i gave up.
If i were rich i could dedicate my life to drawing but that's not the case.

>>2826772
How do I be as good as you at bodies and value, anon?

>>2826766
idk I had fun with >>2825653 and I'm excited about the idea that I can get better, try it again later, and have it come out looking nice

>>2826766
I imagine the stuff I'll be able to draw in 3 months, 6 months, a year, 2 years if I stick with this.
I want to draw stuff that people think is great. I want to draw porn. I want to do these things, so I keep practicing lines, boxes, ellipses, and keep studying the fundamentals so I can get good.
The thing about art is that everyone has put in the time. A lot of the artists you enjoy have been putting in the time since they were 4 years old, and thus it was never "boring" to them. We have to do a lot of the boring stuff so we don't have to spend 20 years of "fun drawing" to get to their level.

>>2826772
The hairline is so high up, it looks like she's wearing a wig.

>>2826766
Even if it's shit, anon.
I still draw. It's the idea that counts, not what's actually there.

>>2826786
>I want to draw porn.
me too

>>2826726
No reference, but the character is Shizuka Joestar.

these are always fun to do

>>2826775
No clue. I mostly only draw people and I've only been painting in black/white. Trying to avoid color until I know what I'm doing. The ctrlpaint series on rendering helped me out a lot, but I just try to copy what I see.

>>2826785
Hmm, you're right. I always have a hard time estimating the length of foreheads, noses, and chins.

>>2826720
left upper arm looks a bit too long and I'd said erase that ass/thigh crease on the bottom because its looking like that pic of nicki's fake ass

My lines are way more wobbly than they were yesterday or the day before. I'm doing the first DrawABox lesson still. Am I doing something wrong, or is this normal?

>>2826875
that's normal, keep going

>>2826876
Hell yeah. I'm glad to hear that, genuinely. I'm not gonna stop, I just didn't want to be doing something wrong over and over and then spend time unlearning the incorrect fuck up I did.

>>2826877
>I just didn't want to be doing something wrong over and over and then spend time unlearning the incorrect fuck up I did.
Well, you're going to have to do. It's impossible to not mess up. Drawing is a 100% failure rate thing. You mess up a ton, but you'll fix in the end.

this was fun to draw. didn't come out too good tho

>>2826900
reference

>>2825757
In the Sticky, in the Industry Leaders section, which Murata are we talking about there? Range or Yusuke?

Critique pls. I've been drawing from life and stuff a lot, so I wanted to try something a little more fun and from imagination.

critique?

>>2826911
Ahck, forgot to upload.

>>2826910
Probably Yusuke, since as much as I like Range, Yusuke's skill is way above Range's.

2nd excercise of DrawABox lesson 1

>>2826931
those look like airpins, pretty cool.

>>2826931
Lesson 1
>teach your hand to do what a ruler can do for you

>>2826947
you can't use a ruler for everything and making straight lines helps the muscle memory

>>2826947
That's not what lesson 1 is about at all.
It's about discipline and patience. Just like like how in Karate Kid, guy paints a fence and washes a car before actually learning karate.

>>2826900
Do studies (serious studies, not 10 minute doodles like this) of simpler subjects while reading Keys to Drawing. Your art will get better quicker.

against my better judgement i decided to attempt gestures from imagination. critiques?

>>2826969
They lack that exaggerated feel. It's like they're doing their pose half-heartily.

>>2826912
anyone?

>>2826973
i see what you mean. do i HAVE to exaggerate everything? like surely theres a place for not dynamic stuff right? also, worth it to keep practicing from imagination or stick to gesturing from ref or both?

trying to work with negatives. any advice? can people atleast tell what this is?

>>2826978
You don't have to, you're right. There is, it's more for like natural poses which is similar to what you have. Definitely do both. Try doing from memory too.

>>2826913
pls respond

>>2826913
Cute, do more please.

>>2826986
alright, thanks for the feedback

>>2826978
There is a threshold for how "exaggerated" you want things to be but GENERALLY poses will 'stiffen out' when anatomy is applied. What's important is almost a sort of harnessing the raw power you feel when you think of a pose and latching on to that, expressing it.

>>2826992
Yes, but I know there are things I need to work on. The pose and stuff are from imagination, but I think I still messed up proportions. And the hands.

Doesn't help that KP is already heavily stylized, I guess.

tried

>>2827025
soz for sideways pic, its normal in my folder idk

>>2827025
Interesting, expressive, creative. Yeah. Those kinds of things. Anyways, great stuff. Keep working at it, ask for help if you need it.

>>2827027
thanks, any advice for drawing hands?

>>2827029
Yeah, you should draw your own hand. Perhaps, look at a lot of references of hands. Study them, learn construction for them, they're one of the most difficult parts of the body to draw, so don't sweat it. It takes time to learn. A lot.

>>2825759
Damn, Ed Harris looks like THAT?

I missed the skull shape and a lot of the wrinkles btw. Dude looks like 98 now.

>>2827031
ill work on it, thanks man :)

>>2827027
Looooooooollll

Broken legs

>>2827010
>GENERALLY poses will 'stiffen out' when anatomy is applied.
kek this means ALWAYS in my case. i think its sort of clicking. the 'shortest amount of lines in the shortest amount of time' thing does seem to have the effect youre describing

>>2826985
bumping. anybody? critique?

>>2827080
thats good! maybe you can redraw the aztec woman on the wall one day

support your troops

>>2827088
Draw thread is over there pal

>>2827089
i dont even know how to do a value study. i belong here

>Want to download photoshop
>Half of the photoshop uploads contain malware because it's such a popular program
>Don't know any good sites that can be trusted

>>2827091
Literally first one on TPB is legit

>>2827093
>Comments filled with people saying ransomware and all other kinds of shit

I know that TPB commenters are retarded, but it doesn't exactly inspire confidence

>>2827096
Then wait for a CGpeers signup and get it from there

>>2825913
Is this Jeff and Annie?

>>2827104
Unfortunately, yeah

>>2827088
Are you OP?

>>2827110
howd you know rofl

>>2826158
>>2826240
Thanks for crit

>>2827091
Literally just buy it , you have to spend money to make it

>>2825758
Its sad to say this is the best I've done in quite a while. I feel like if the proportions were better then it would have looked more like the person in the pic
Not totally sure senpai

i know the drawing is shit, i'm still learning how to place the facial features but my question is: is the ear way too low?

>>2827087
those days are over. im a loomis autist now

>>2825760

>>2827213

No. Your ear looks weird because it is placed in more of a perspective than the face you drew with it. The face is flat and boxy up until that hair before her ear.

It's the contrast that makes one or the other not belong.

>>2827213
Looks like the ear was sticked on her hair. Hair doesn't just flow straight like that when there's an object in it's way.

>>2825849
Looks pretty good . I'd say keep going and see how far you can take it . then we can asses what you can improve upon . for right now it's only a sketch >>2825849

>>2825988
What was the point of this ? For study or something else ? Hope there is actual intent behind this because with sometime ( please take your time ) it could look pretty good . stop being lazy

So I'm doing keys to drawing and I'm in the second chapter. Someone has some good quality masters sketches so I can draw them?

>>2827392
im currently doing the same, im this guy>>2827339
i literally just started the book so im in the same boat

>>2827400
Nice. Anyway, are you doing like the book says, so drawing following the contours while trying to not look at the paper or do you use the construction method even if the book doesn't say anything about it for now?

Someone here know which should I start with?

>>2827414
the drawing in the picture i posted was done using the look hold draw method mostly i drew most of the round parts while looking at the reference and not the paper, i still look at the paper more than i should but im training myself not to

>>2825758
did it real quick

>>2825758
This otherkin defies genetics.

>>2826931
I still can't ghost lines accurately

I know the picture is a mess, but can I get some red lines? Also sorry if this is the wrong thread for these things.

is there an alternative for drawabox for exercises to be done everyday and in autistical quantities?

>>2827641
That's called discipline.

>>2826978
I'm also learning gesture, and what I see at least is that some poses are better exaggerated, while other more natural poses are better left the way they are.

Like I don't know someone with hand on face crying and back arched would be better with the back even more arched for the sake of expression.

Thats my noob impression at least.

Gone through several materials on gesture, still have one to check out.

>>2827645
I mean alternative resource where you can get exercises like that, I don't like drawabox.

>>2827648
You can't be handheld with these so called "exercises". It's just called drawing. If you want a resource the I would recommend schoolism.

>>2827654
Who asked to be handheld? Are you fucking brain dead anon? I just asked if there's another place to get exercises like that.

Which course on schoolism do you refer to?

>>2827668
For you Drawing Fundamentals with Thomas Fluharty.

>>2827674
Thanks!

I think it has been over a year since I last came here...

>>2827684

I guess this belongs more in the Porn Thread but there isn't one up atm, mind if I post it here?

Should I even bother finishing this or am I polishing a big turd? I'll have to try and color something eventually, since all I ever did was lineart

>>2827512
Don't do "quick" shit at this stage. Spend as much as you can on one portrait. That way you'll learn more.

>>2826872
Better?

General crits appreciated as well.

>>2827686
Last. Keep at it guys, end result doesn't really matter!

>>2827820
That pencil control is insane. I can't even ask you to teach it to me.

>>2827213
ears are the least of your problems

>>2827731

super nice shizuka keep up anon

>>2826759
this is actually cute :)

>>2827825
It took me a long time to realize it is ok to fuck up a drawing. The end result doesnt even matter, just that you have fun while doing it.
Once I realized this I started to draw like crazy and to enjoy it much more. I draw in shaky trains, I draw in the park, I draw at home, I draw in between shots at the bar. And I fuck up a lot of drawings. I just simply dont care anymore.

Once you start putting in some serious hours and stop pursuing anything but becoming better that your previous self, improvement starts to come. Slowly, not in the way you may have thought when your started, but progress nonetheless.

My 2 cents there. Good luck!

>>2827908
How long have you been drawing? Progress pic? Like the earliest shittiest drawing and the latest best drawing.

What's the opinion on erasing? I always hear "don't erase, learn to draw it correctly in the first place", but I often need several retakes of a line to get it right, and it's not like I'm not trying my best while doing so. Is the alternative to just fill my drawings with misshapen lines or what?

please respond

>>2827991
Nothing wrong with erasing. Just do what you got to do to get it right.

I went through Drawabox and even if my straight lines are a bit better my circles and ellipsed are still shit. I do the exercises a lot, but still my arm control is shit. Is it normal? Should I start moving on or just concentrate on them until I get them right?

>>2827908
what did you draw in this time?

I like your approach a lot, talk more please.

>>2826964
I'll do that, but honestly I work really slow so hour+ pieces look like 10 minute rushed shit.

I used this to practice some hatching, but my line control is nowhere near where I want it to be. I should probably do more exercises for that too.

>>2826964
what are simpler subjects?

what is a serious study?

(I'm not him, just another beg)

>>2826985
>4000x4000

>>2828111
nice trips but check my 3

>>2828039
The lesson is meant to be a daily warm up. Spend 30 minutes to an hour. Listen to podcast or something while you do it. When you're somewhat comfortable with it and stop drawing random potatoes instead of circles then you can reduce the time.

You don't have to master everything about the lessons. Once you understand and somewhat decent you can move on.

Should I go through Keys to Drawing or can I just start copying shit from reference while using construction? I'm not a big fan of books

faces from imagination pre-paint. much less stress from lineart in many cases since more details can be just inferred rather than explicitly shown

>>2826969
>against my better judgement i decided to attempt gestures from

It's important to do them. You can't draw from memory without practicing drawing from memory.

One thing you could try is bring up some reference and then try drawing it without looking at it at all. After that, look at the reference and try to analyze what went wrong. Then try drawing again taking account for what you noticed. Repeat.

A few quick sketches with some small detail added after.

>>2828166
unless you're going for old faces, it's not a good idea to use that many lines for the eyes and mouth.

>>2828110
you see something you like from real life and try to replicate it as best as you can.

>>2825760
Sent here from /vg/ gamedev thread. Never drawn before, starting basically right now. Help I have no clue what I'm doing. Oh god. I'll read the sticky..

>>2826964
well I tried this >>2825758 simple subject after reading more keys to drawing but it came out looking like one of the worst things I've drawn yet. After drawing what I wanted for fun for a few days I forgot how much I fucking suck and hate myself after serious studies.

>>2826759
Interesting, expressive, creative. Yeah. Those kinds of things. Anyways, great stuff. Keep working at it, ask for help if you need it.

>>2828111
is there a problem with it being 4k x 4k?

>>2828281
Did you read the first post of this thread anon?

>>2826931

Did you draw from the shoulder pivot?

some help with the background, please?

So is that Prosko guy that recommend on the Sticky a good source to learn Gesture?

>>2828307
Anyone is good enough to learn gesture from. It's actually doing gestures that's the difficult part.

>>2828303
Here's a tip

>>2828307
him and villpu

>>2828321
Long time ago someone uploaded a Villpu video that really helped me understand figure drawing but I cant find it, it was that espcifc vid too as the one im finding now arent really helping me I think it was from that New Arts Academy

>>2828346
theres a torrent of that one on infinity ch slash loomis in the sticky

>>2828353
Thanks a lot, also these are what I have so far. OK not sure if I'm capturing the motion of body properly.

I did such a bad job on a study that I did line exercises over it. I feel like an autistic retard now

>>2828366
I know there's a thing called high standards and all, but shit, anon. You must have been drawing for a few months now.

this is a crappy drawing I turned in to a crappy painting

>>2828372
2 months with a 6 month break in between. I'm very ashamed, sorry.

>>2828361
its a fine start
>>2828375
i know these guys

Quick sketch, never can get past the gesture part, horrible at rendering properly. I know there are things wrong in this as well, if anyone has an opinion.

>>2828303
I thought it was a bird with a human head.

>>2828385
Oh, wow sorry about the size.

>>2828372
since I'm this bad after two months do you recommend I should just drop drawing? or should I keep going in the hopes that maybe in a few years I can get decent?

>>2828385

Stop just scribbling until you get something that looks vaguely right and try to be more deliberate.

>>2828418
Will do.

First time doing gesture. Damn, thought I had it gotta watch hampton's video again.

>>2828406
That entirely depends on what you want to do anon. With enough practice and patience I think anyone can get decent at drawing.

>>2828451
I do want to get better, it's just hard when I see such little progress after a month of practice and focusing as much of my time I can into it.

>>2828487
Perspective and proportions

How did you choose the destiny of an artist? I mean we all live in a society which trains as engineers, lawyers, and not as poets, musicians, painters, and its hard as hell to imagine the one who would say "fuck this shit, wanna be the digital artist"

>>2828493
I come up with stories in my head a lot (most of them are quite shit, admittedly) but I always feel like a picture medium such as comics is a better way to express the stories I want told

Plus I wanna draw porn, so I'm willing to dedicate 2-3 years to become somewhat decent just to do that.

>>2828493
Wanted to do comics.

>>2828500
Yea, the same with me. I want to write a few novels. but I also want to create the world visually so I continued drawing.

>>2828493
I want to be able to draw because I want to express myself and create aesthetically pleasing art. I want to add to the world, contribute in some way. I want to evoke emotions in people, make them think and laugh. And I want to enjoy doing it.

>>2828257
Just read the sticky in the OP, reading "Keys to Drawing", and the first exercise is taking about a half an hour and drawing your feet while not looking at your paper for longer periods of time than glances. Unsure of what I'm doing but if I keep reading, keep practicing, I'll improve, right?

Just want to make art for video games wew.. My feet AREN'T this fat looking so I'm guessing I fucked up somehow..It's hard to space lines out to make sure that what I draw keeps the same proportions to what I see..

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>>2828501
Is it a good idea to go to a decent uni as a programmer, but instead of hard studying, I'll draw every day? And if I won't get anywhere as a artist, at least I would have a degree?btw unis are free in my country

>>2828510
You're already better than me and I've been practicing for weeks. Keep at it

>>2828493
Anime and manga, why do you think I'm here?

>I mean we all live in a society which trains as engineers, lawyers, and not as poets, musicians, painters
I mean, yeah. You're sort of right, but as a kid, anything goes, you know? There's no commitments yet and no one really cares if you commit to anything either. It's just later on, a kid will eventually have to make the leap to either follow their dreams or let other people control their life.

But man, anime and manga was my shit, anon. When we were doing the career things in middle school, I saw animator and comic artist and I was like
>this is it man, this is what I want to do

Without working at it as much though. Commitment is hard at that age. There's just a lot of stuff happening like seeing other people who were really kid at drawing already and people throwing around meme words like talent.

Anyways, it's the fact that people who say they want to become an artist and give up, that I want to do this. Everyone I know who has said it, has given up. How disgusting really. Just a bunch of all talk losers.

If you're not going to make it, then I will. You can make dreams come true if you work hard enough for them.

>>2828515
Can you please tell me what I'm doing right / wrong? Or maybe what to do to learn how to draw? I literally started two hours ago and I realize it'll take a lot of time and dedication but I'm willing to put in the work. Is it enough to just keep reading "Keys to Drawing" and practicing?

>>2828512
I tried that drawing and programming thing, it's impossible. Programming takes a shitload of time to do.

>>2828519
idk i'm shit but afaik just doing the exercises and reading will make you better.

>>2828512
Art degrees are worthless, so I decided to become a computer science major and learn programming. The first several years were easy, but toward your junior and senior years, you will most likely have to work harder and have less time for drawing if you want to get good grades. I find time to draw during the breaks and weekends.

>>2828523
Got it boss, thanks.

>>2828512
If you go to a decent uni as a computer science student, toward the end of your program as you get into higher level courses you will not be able to do anything "every day" except program and study. At least, from the USA.

>>2827961
No pics on me, Im at work. Can get something up in around 10 hours. I'm 27 and I have wasted way more time before finding my path than some people have needed to become acknowledged artists. I've been through it all: animu, samefacing, 2deep4u, ignoring anatomy, browsing the web for hours and not drawing shit... but it is never late is it?

>>2828051
Since April... 1,5 tons of life sketches of people in the subway and doing their things around the city. About 100 A5 pages on both sides. A bunch of cityscapes as I like to document where I go and what I do. Some still life in those occasions there was nothing else to draw around, and some faces from photo reference. I'd say I have filled a total of around 160 pages on both sides.

Drawing from life gives huge dividends over using photos, it is like doing pushups with your brain. After all you will get pencil control over time, but in the end it is the brain who decides which lines to put on the paper and which not to.

color study. the subtileties in skin gets rlly annoying

>>2828567
First separate the light zones from the dark zones, then choose one darker tone and one lighter tone and add then to the mix.. Try painting with those tones only.

>its another eric decides to paint bad line work episode

>>2826656
Front of face needs to be darker, if you look at the reference the front of his face is more in the shadows.

>>2828578
check it yourself bud

>>2828574
it isnt just that, its the fact that the lights and darks aren't allows the same hue to begin with. like htf am i supposed to know when shadows are supposed to be orange or red but ill try that approach next time

>>2828594
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26Re1HQqFLc

>>2828594
dont listen to him eric you're doing fine

>>2828619
im not subbing to your channel stop

>>2828621
thanks

For doodling shit from imagination for two years, i think i improved a lot. Anatomy and proportions are my biggest weak spots.

>>2828630
Nice, did you do any studying? Or did you just doodle from imagination?

>>2828643
Oh thank you! I doodle from imagination with the only exception of seeing what a characters' design is.

>I’m going to let Andrew Loomis answer this one for me: “Expert use of the fundamentals is the only basis there is for learning to draw. These fundamentals can be listed, studied, and carried out in your own way. They are: proportion, anatomy, perspective, values, color, and knowledge of mediums and materials. Each of these can be the subject of infinite study and observation.”
Is he right?

>>2828657
He's not wrong but he's not right either because he actually forgets some of the other fundamentals he mentions though

>the 5 'c's and 5 'p's

this pineapple took me so long to draw from reference and its so shit. am I too autistic to improve? I've been practicing for weeks and it feels like I've gotten nowhere

>>2828669
As long as you never give up, you'll make it, anon.

how am i going?

>>2828689
Are you sure you're a beginner
Your lines are too slick.

did this today, what do ya think?

>>2828691
Looks like a lot of stacked lines and erasing to me.

>>2828694
Impressed how much work you put in.
Got a front, side and back view, then a nice dynamic pose to the right.

Keep it up.

>>2828696
thank you :)

>>2828694
deviantly :3

>>2828666
Which is?

>>2828722
If you search what that anon said, you'll understand almost immediately.

>>2825764
First time posting on /ic/, tried to get the planes of the body down. Will probably try again to get the hang of it.

How's this?

>>2828724
Ok

Is there a rule to follow when deciding what pencils to use for what? I got a newbie set but I've been just using HB for sketching and whatever random other pencil I want lineart

>>2827108
Well at least I could tell who it was, could be worse

>>2828757
Other pencils have different contrast so when used together, you can create a greater effect. HB is pretty light for example and 2B is darker than that.

>>2827721
It's not really my type but I don't see anything wrong with it. Maybe try to play with your line weight to accentuate her features?

>>2828594
Start with monochrome values studies then.

>>2828766
Thank you anon!

i don't think im making any progress desu, thoughts? (the girl sitting with blue background, her arms are so wonky lol)

>>2828796
It would help if you didn't make such a wonky composition. I couldn't tell which direction to go.

Definitely looks like progress though. No doubt about that.

After some lurking in this board I've noticed the book "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain" mentioned a few times. Amazon has at least 4 editions of said book. Which one does /ic/ recommend?

>>2828800
sorry theyre all like over 2000p, had to kinda mash them into a smaller space

>>2828696
Now you're just being cruel.

>>2828796
also poster here, to add, im able to draw seen in 2016 in a matter of minutes now, it'd usually take me hours to even fathom that idea id say in 2013 that probably took me a couple days. So i guess im progressing skill wise, but my style seems to be the same or worse to me

>>2828809
what it looks fine to me

>>2828803
Any of them, they're all the same anyways.

>>2828811
If you understand you downfalls, you should strive to improve upon them. It's always difficult to judge stylized art because I don't know what you're going for. You could be going for this kind of style or shooting for something super highly rendered. I have no idea.

>>2828822
i really don't know what i'm going for in terms of style, i'll hopefully find my sweet spot sooner than later :)

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>>2825765
bad scan but i tried

Like to paint some moviestars

I am a complete beginner. Has anyone else started with draw-a-box

>>2828694
Get away from the anime style, try realistic people. It will fuck you over in the future if you start your foundation on anime shit.