/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>2815842
Looking for critique.

Another random chick.

>>2815873
Torso is too long, but I like your shoujo style.

trying different styles

>>2815896
I like your color choice, very good blending of the different values.

>>2815873
This >>2815885
also I don't like her hands.
Cute anime shoujos ought to have pretty, slender hands.

>>2815896
that background color gave me autism.
Try pastel or something more soft in the eyes

>>2815873
I don't know, I hope it helps you

>>2815842
shes chubby bcuz my reference was chubby, also any tips on coloring?

>>2816082
I see what style you're trying to copy and I'm here to tell you you're doing it a great injustice

>>2815896
My fucking eyes
I've been blinded

>>2816106 meant for >>2815873

>>2815842
really sorry about the bad quality. my cellphone is shit and i didn't have access to a scanner. my art is typically digital, and this is the first intentionally "stylized" doodle I've done in over a month. (have only been practicing fundamentals and lurking the beginner thread) so holding my breath here! feel free to give me input! it helps.

>>2815873
i really like your line quality! but i will agree with others in saying that its a little wonky.

>>2816142
Go back to /beg/.

>an evening for the lines
>two days for the color

This is what happens when you never color.

>>2816142
Work on fundamentals, try avoiding anime. Symbol drawing can become a crutch.

>>2816158
How the fuck did it take you that long to draw those messy lines and that long to color? Either you're using a pc that runs photoshop slow or your just a scrub. Learn about color theory and practice in grayscale first before you do color because your values need work.

>>2816165
Ah but you see I use tvpaint for my lines.

>>2816173
Get sai or something then. Or even fire alpaca. There's better tools out there, and even if you can't pay money you can easily torrent them unlike some of the pricier ones which are more risky.

>>2815885
>>2815907
>>2816082
>>2816144
How's this?

>>2816106
>>2816109
Tell me more? I have a lot of influences, would love to know what you're referring to.

>>2815885
>>2815907
>>2816082
>>2816144
How's this?

>>2816106
>>2816109
Tell me more? I have a lot of influences, would love to know what you're referring to.

>>2816196
Reminds me of a lot of shoujo mangas.
Doesn't help that the coloring gives that same vive

Looks alright. Kind of flat, but seems part of what you are going for so idk.

almost finshed
this shit is consuming my soul and it's not even a scene

sigh

>>2816158
make your canvas smaller while filling color blocks / shadow, don't start to shadow with airbrush

>>2816142
You focused much of your time on the face and hair it looks like, try to devote the same amount of time to adding more details to the clothing and side characters.

>>2816214
>make your canvas smaller while filling color blocks / shadow, don't start to shadow with airbrush
Thank you. It's like I "know" this stuff but when I get into it I just tunnel vision really hard. But I feel like I learned a lot of what I shouldn't do so that's nice

Here's the original block-in I had, not very painterly.

>>2816220
>>2816214

>>2816157
i already said that i am already participating in /beg/ ya dingus. how about some more constructive feedback? like as in why you say such?

Practiced painting some backgrounds today for the first time

>>2816280
I think painting the rocks and the water was my favorite one to do. Other than that I struggled with the tree leaves and the red clouds

>>2816280
Alright rendering
shit everything else.
Study a scenary and nature book m8

>>2816280
>first time
>this good with color already

>>2816213
meant for >>2816211
y did you delete it tho

>>2816322
>that
>good

>>2816322
Thanks. but I do agree with >>2816312
that I really need to work on my scenery. I've internalized rocks I think but cloudy skies other than the standard blue ones are tricky for me.

>>2816327
And before you ask, yes these were done without references and from imagination

>>2816327
What bothers me the most is the fact that the light of the enviroment doesnt seem to afect the subject, also they look too clean and 1 tone of color.

Enviroment is messy and with a wide range of tones, even the sky that seems plain in your drawings, has a range of tones.

>>2816312
Thanks for the critique m8. I'll try to study references when coloring next time. I don't know why I thought I could wing it on the first time

>>2816333
And don't fucking dare of trying it again or I'll fucking neck ya m8

>>2816332
>>2816336
All right! I'll get to work on it then, I suppose I simplified things too much. I'll try to add more color shifts to change it up

Working on this background, included a couple of color comps from different times of day.

>>2816337
Thats the spirit!

>>2816340
looks like a children's cartoon or Nintendo game, not bad

>>2816340
You don't mind if I study those cloud colors, m8?

>>2816347
don't, those clouds are strictly for leisure viewing

>>2816347
DONT YOU FUCKING DARE

>>2816336
gondolas do NOT have arms.

critique please

>>2816354
Nice crit anon!

>>2816358
torso looks like a pillow
without a pillow depth

I want to draw cool hair. Is this a good reference?

What's wrong with her face?

>>2816417
ayy 5head

>>2816408
Too hipsterish

>>2816454
Do you even know what that is??

>>2816454
That is fucking Stalin. He is not hipster he was one of those who originally looked like that. Hipsters dress like that. That does not make this style hipster though.

>>2816478
But you gotta admit, he looks charming with that getup and hair. Shame he was a psychopath tho.

>>2816408
What anime is this? I need some fap material

>>2816491
Top kek

>>2816488
Completely agree. If I was gay I'd totally do him

>>2816491
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TposvnTgmJw are you talking about this anime?

>>2816511
I love this anime, thanks anon desu

>>2816417
ayy

also face is misplaced in relation of the head

>>2816221

Why is there cheese all over the bed?

>>2816534
Np. I watch it all the time while drawing.

This is when I started experimenting with a new pen setting.

>>2816142
why are people harping on this, especially telling him to go to the beg thread. it doesn't even look that bad as a sketch compared to some of the other things on this thread,

>>2816637
Maybe it's the inverse of the "everyone gush over a really bad drawing" meme?

>>2816637
That's how /ic/ works, the more skilled you get the more mistakes we can shit on you for. Nobody cares about too much about the really bad beginners because there's not much to work with anyway. You literally have to be almost flawless to not get shit here.

>>2816213
>>2816323
Ah, sorry about that, I noticed a huge proportional error right as I posted it so I corrected it. Thank you!

>>2816421
>>2816536
Does it look any better?
The hairline and forehead was an easy fix, but the construction I used hardly changed the overall shape of the head, so I'm probably doing something wrong.

>>2816747
everything you draw looks like tranny shit

>>2816747 Anon, don't take /ic/ so personally. Most of them are cunts who can't draw themselves and repeat memes like "loomis" and "symbol drawing". Study and practice from resources like Michael Hampton Figure drawing and anybody who is on the New Master's academy. I suggest seeing this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7cDY7YDsg
>>2816765 Try giving the poor guy something to go on, will ya? You're not helping anyone by saying that.

>>2816772
tranny

>>2816358
Face looks fine, the other part such as the hair and body looks half-assed though.

>>2816569
Forearm might be too long

>>2816774
What are you on about? You aren't contributing to a shitpost/cringe thread, this is the art critique thread. You know, where you critique artwork or give advice to other artists?

>>2815846
looks like a tranny thanks to that manjaw

>>2816747
I think hair aren't supposed to turn into a blob at the shoulder, you probably should find a ref for that? You could also thicken the eyelashes if you want her to look more feminine too

>>2816780
I critque you're a tranny

>>2816104
wrong file, thoughts?

>>2816781
looks fine to me

>>2815846
First off, resize your artwork to 1000 pixels or less in both directions. Also, I see that you like Gorillaz. Good taste.
Anyway, the first thing that grabs me is that the hands are slightly too small. If you put your hand your own face, you should notice that a fully extended hand covers most of your face. Also the way Noodle's arms are drawn is stiff. Try to draw a stickman skeleton or mannequin with curving gestures as your base instead of straight lines. Also the ear seems pretty low as it usually will sit between the browline and the nose line.

>>2816214
the hand facing us looks super flat, like she has tiny thin fingers

other than that it looks good

>>2816786
Troll detected.

>>2816765
I would shit a brick if you actually knew something else I've drawn.

>>2816859
So are you saying you never draw anything else except tranny shit?

>>2816914
I'm pretty sure that means the exact opposite.

I wish /ic/ was a decent place.

>>2816968
You're going to need more than two holy grails for that.

>>2816949
that you only draw tranny shit?

I'm afraid my ambition will always be bigger than my current skill

>>2816992
Is that your ambition or current skill

>>2817000
That's my current skill trying very badly to match my ambition which is only a sense of a greater and much more arresting image.

/ic/, help me

>>2817004
looks more like tranny shit

>>2817006
I like it.
Practice the faces more tho

>>2817004
Looks really good m8
Keep practicing, you'll eventually get there

>>2817006

>>2817018
I not that guy but don't get that red line

>>2816992
I've seem some your work around here and its pretty ok, but your biggest weakness is perspective on characters.
Would suggest to look into that.

>>2817006
Plant those feet to the ground, everything is floating.

>>2817018
>>2817019
It is a meme redline
It isn't supposed to make sense

>>2817019
it's a retard playing with his tablet

>>2816142

Pretty fantastic bruv, I'd focus on giving the eyes more character and depth, otherwise it's a good style, you've got the fundamentals down, and those are lovely hands. No idea what's up everyone else's ass.

Help /ic/

Here are my questions, I suck with fundamentals

1. How do you draw to heads when you're drawing dynamic or flat poses (i.e upper body tilted), I literally just use references and guess, I'd like to do it from imagination - can you draw the heads on this image? Assuming 8

2. What's wrong on this image, can someone draw construction lines? To me the left breast seems angled incorrectly

I'm practicing figures now

If you can't do this with a mouse, none of you will make it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLSVZ35deh4

>>2817182
where did you get this?

rip dead weeb general

god i suck at digital

any tuts for sai or digital in general

>>2817190
Get a scanner and then scan in your sketches. Then open the scan in sai and ink on top of it on another layer. You might want change the opacity of the scan to see what you're doing. Practice anatomy and try studying proportions of the face. Watch and follow what this guy does, go to /beg/ and see if you've made any improvements. Once they say you've gotten the face down, come back here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7cDY7YDsg

>>2817184
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=4882510

Someone linked it in comments to pic related on a certain booru which specializes on scans and high resolution art.

>>2817184
that image is as old as time itself

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=8071959
This person has an interesting way of interpreting muscle shapes as diamond shapes

>>2817190
this is so fucking hideous its not even funny. please just stop, whenever i see your shit i wanna rip out my eyes tbqh

>>2817218
Agreed, but hopefully we can make him not shit.

>>2817218

i hate to say it but please post your art, whenever someone pulls something this far out of their ass i can only someone with talent insulted you at some point enough for you to feel the need to take it out on me. If you want to call me out at least give me some shred of reason why you, some anon on /ic/ (which i already don't think fairly high of this board) matters.
Christ, this board is the most cowardly out of all of 4chan, its full of pointless generals where you can be insulted or you can make a new thread and be told to post in a general. The point of a general is that is has a GENERAL POINT. I posted because i wanted critique from an anime/alternative perspective. If i wanted free assblasting about your poor eyes i would have just made a chumbum level my own art thread. at least i wouldn't have to scroll past all this pointless crap art.
actually please don't post your art, i wish to redirect you to /baby/ where your level of intelligence (and mastery of insults) belongs.

>>2817199
Thank you for at least making an attempt to be constructive. pic related is my level of "realism" which is shit tbbqh so feel free to critique that instead.

>>2816992

throw some white highlights on dat bitch

you're missing out on the fun of working on a tone

the head might be too big still. ive fixed it like 3 times already with and without the props in front of it //

>>2817278
see >>2815612

>>2817278
>Too big
Or maybe too small
Woman shoulders are 2 heads length
Men are 3

>>2817259
And you just outed yourself as a troll. But if you're serious then just give up. Anyone who started a month ago would is better than you.

Is this good enough?
I would love some harsh critique.

>>2817294
1- get a scanner app
2-Read the god-damn sticky
It looks amateur as fuck. Why?
>3 quarters view, aka my first drawing
>There are no physics or dynamism on hair
>focus on face seems to be rather cute than expresive of something
>there is no shading
>whats going on with those arms
>clothes have no wrinkles or folds

Pretty boring piece overall, there is nothing going on, or detail, or background. Read the sticky.

>>2817305
>he doesn't mention proportions or anatomy or perspective
Better than expected thanks.

>>2817311
Because that's a no brainer.

>>2817315
You didn't mention them so I suppose they're ok

>>2817259
Yeah, I feel you man /ic/ is a very shit place but it is an easy way to get critiques... albeit fairly rarely and in differing quality. I do notice that you have some sense of form (I like the cross contour attempt on the arms) but your proportions are still need a little work. Keep in mind even with different head to body proportions that:
Elbows line up with bellow button when arms are straight down,
Wrist lines up with waist or slightly below it, legs are usually as long as the head and torso combined,
Hands are as big as the face, and the length of the feet should fit snugly within the inside length of the forearm.
If that was confusing I'd suggest checking out New Master's Academy on Youtube or Fantastic Anatomy(who basically steals their information anyway) and use 4chan only for people to critique whether or not you did the techniques in the videos correct or not. Ignore the trolls who say symbol drawing and Loomis and practice hard. Deeds not words!

>>2817294
i fixed her face a lil. her hair is ?????? tone it down

>>2817321
they are not.
You are shit on that aspect too.
I thought you would be enough self aware about it to notice it yourself.
I guess I overestimated you.

>>2817325
You just changed the face art-style. how is this fixing anything?

>>2817325
>"i fixed her face"
>ears proportions and placing are still fucked
>Just changed the way eyebrows eyes and nose look

>>2817326
Not everybody is born a genius anonymous.
Care to help me?

>>2817330
the entire thing was kinda wonky. i put the stuff where its supposed to go by hand. she had no cheeks, her jaw was fucked, and her eyes were lopsided. this person has no art style, lad

>>2817338
There are entire books written on figure drawing.
Trying to explain it to you would take an entire thread.

Read the sticky, try some exercises, and then we will help you in the parts that you get stuck or are too complicated for you.

>>2817340
Alright. Is kinda hard to tell when the entire thing is all flat.
Try pointing those things out because is hard to tell otherwise.

>>2815846
give up.

>>2815873
looks like one of those old romance mangas.

>>2816340
welfare zedig.

>>2816992

Fun midna drawing I did.

>>2817370
Study perspective m8
Also try foreshortening with spirals and cilinders

>>2816992
Why are you afraid fof that, that's the only thing worth striving for
What would hapen if you reached perfection but stagnation
It is the single greatest thing in human nature to always want to improve more

>>2817370
Nice asymmetry on the face. Linework needs to define the forms better, and like >>2817373
said you should study perspective

>>2817386
Might be projecting, but he's probably just making sure people know that he doesn't think he's good so he won't get "You think you're hot shit m8? You're just a wannabe Sakimi-chan."-tier replies.

I've noticed that that is something that happens to a lot of people on /ic/ when they get kind of decent at what they do

>>2817376
Might be projecting, but he's probably just making sure people know that he doesn't think he's good so he won't get "You think you're hot shit m8? You're just a wannabe Sakimi-chan."-tier replies.

I've noticed that that is something that happens to a lot of people on /ic/ when they get kind of decent at what they do

>>2817392
>>2817390
Oh god not another one

>>2817038
thank you so much for your feedback. i will work on those two things for sure.

>>2817005
this is mighty impressive

>>2817373
Thanks guy

>>2817005
something something patriots

Sofia and her daughters : Faith Hope & Love

>>2817423

Church Windows

>>2817423
Cant recommend you this hard enough:
http://www.alexhays.com/loomis/Andrew%20Loomis%20-%20Drawing%20the%20Head%20and%20Hands.pdf

you suck at head structure and hands look like shit m8

>>2817423
amazing appeal considering how technically flawed it is. Learn to construct and then flatten the result you get back down. That's how you'll get the look you're trying to go for.

>>2816280
don't use leaf texture brushes for trees unless you've blocked in the form of the tree itself
you need to keep in mind the branches as well, they make up the skeleton of the tree
do silhouettes and sketches of the trunk, branches, etc.
approach tree drawing like anatomy, trees are just made out of masses and you need to think of it in those masses to draw and render it properly


also use reference, you're symbol drawing but with colors instead of shapes

if you want to improve your foliage take a look at Peter Han's dynamic bible (in book thread) it'll teach you how to construct stuff

>>2817432
Or you know... I could just look at reference and draw it several times. I usually do this:
Line for flow and proportions
Shapes for proportions and sillhouete
Then finally 3d forms for form
I don't think I really need to know how to construct stuff but I'll check it out anyway

>>2817423
you know, >>2817429 is right. you do a few things pretty well, with colors and such, but you really absolutely don't know how to draw. you have to start learning.
/ic/ is shit and all, but most often when they say "study fundamentals", it's for your own good.

>>2817005
Pulling this off is super difficult, especially traditionally. It forces you to do construction in your head and teaches you a different way to think about lines, so keep it up man!

>>2817462
you suffer from sameface m8

>>2816142
Not bad at all, this thing would get thousands of likes on instagram

>>2817278
face is ok, body is terrible

>>2815842
anyone have source on the top right image ?

What do you guys think of this piece I did with oil this weekend.

>>2817462
>>2817406
hey thanks amigos
>>2817411
mumble mumble nanomachines

>>2817595
trash, read the sticky

>>2817595
Line-art is pretty bad m8.

>>2816214
The way the elbow area interacts with her cylindrical glove is really fucked from that angle

I've been trying my hand at animation, and been using pencil 2d. But the problem occurs when I put my images into gif converter.me, and the images end up as all different sizes for some reason and it screws up the whole animation. :( Are there any better animation softwares out there that anyone recommends? thx

>>2817754
>>2806213

I'm not stopping until I get this right.

practicing painting faces with an unfamiliar style

how can i make the colors of the face more vibrant and life like? anything i should do to render better? are you going to tell me to go back to /beg/ and read loomis?

>>2817763
ok first of all the shape of that face is a fuck, everything is squished towards the bottom and the theres huge excess of space up top.
if you are trying to emphasis some sort of angle where her head is tilted forward then the rest of the face doesn't really deliver that properly, make sure you reflect your drawing, you can ween out a lot of mistakes just by doing that
the position of the ear in relation to the face is fucky,might be minimalized if you move the facial features up

>>2817763
tranny?

>>2817797
?

>>2817427

fugg i know i suck at hands

i'll cram muh loomis guis be back with progress

>>2817805
Are you shitposting or legit on doing some loomis?
Either way, go ahead.

>>2817765
there is nothing too terrible, other than the rendering.
Read a rendering or coloring book, you should fine then.

>>2817814
This one?

>>2817827
Yeah why not

>>2817827
>this is what some adults think kids want to do when they say they like drawing

>>2816211
Finished this, I've been reading The Prince in his Dark Days so I tried to simulate Yamanaka Hiko's shading style.

practice

>>2817964
poses are too stiff. Try to do sketch few gestures from references

>>2817765
your process is keeping you down

don't fill gradients with so many strokes, fill shadows with hard edges and then soft it painting/erasing with airbrush, you'll start to simplify it and then polish it faster

pirate scott robertson book

>>2817017
Thanks m8

>>2817267
My initial aim was to do the nicest line only sketch I could of the character for a song I'm composing but at some point I started using value and now i am at odds with my initial idea, I will probably end up doing a proper colored and rendered character piece since the composition is still kind of raw

>>2817020
I'm slowly going through how to draw by Scott Robertson, hopefully the situation will improve sooner than later, thanks!

>>2817376
I agree 100% and I probably didn't explain myself enough, it's just that in my case it seems so disproportionate to the point it could get counterproductive, only time will probably tell. I want to do this full time so I have to be careful with my self teaching

>>2817392
I've been humble about my progress, I do have emphasized that I try very hard but that might not be worth much when I have to work full time, attend college and other interests. However some trolls may try to argue otherwise like you said

>>2817367
<3

Hopefully pic related looks better than last time

>>2817993
>actually took the suggestion of the nose

>>2817996
Thank you anon, it was very obvious how wrong the nose was when I saw your edit

Practice

30 second poses from imagination practice

>>2817993
hope this helps

>>2818068
why did you remove the forehead?

>>2816158
Anon I never post here but I just wanted to say that I love your drawing and that you have inspired me.

Keep at it.

>>2818085
Huh. I thought there was nobody who wasn't a cunt around here. I guess I was wrong.

>>2818086
Ew, double negative

>>2818090
That wasn't a double negative, retardo

>>2818074
head is at a slight angle so the forehead would appear a bit shorter than usual, after your comment I double checked my proportions and I realized they're closer to a human head's proportions than those of anime

I hope that resolves the confusion

>>2816142
head and hand are nice but looks like you have to work more on the torso and clothes

>>2816142
i like this a lot! you got a blog or something senpai?

>>2816142
>this massive samefagging

>>2817423
i like your concept, it reminds me of hado's style.

>>2818068
Pls stop. I don't fucking care how technically correct these proportions are, they look terrible.

Made this a few days ago and but I had fun drawing it so I wanted to show it.

Full of mistakes but I'm working everyday. Still have trouble with hair, do you have a good tutorials/pdf to make beautiful flowing hair?

>>2818146
completely unrelated guy but it looks better than the original one to me. especially the eye since it doesn't look like its sinking into the nose

>>2818128
I'm sorry to say but your understanding of light and shadow seems very weak.
The lightsource is seems to be coming from the top right judging by those animal eyes, but you haven't done anything else to show that. Looking closely at the hair it looks like there are lighter spots on the hair going to the left and darker shading on the right which contradicts your established lightsource. Also you half assed some hatching lines on the dog but you bothered to put in a cast shadow underneath his jaw and what looks to be shading on the inside of the ear and under the lip. If you're gonna do that you have to shade the other parts of your drawing otherwise it'll look like shit.
Stop samefagging. Stop drawing anime. Stop procrastinating. Practice realism with Loomis, Vilppu, and shading more.

>>2818156
post work

>>2817763
I admire your tenacity. You should try drawing more of her form, gives you a better idea of where her features are.

Her head is turning, but her head shape doesn't reflect that. Ear too far out, rest are minor perspective errors that can be fixed by referring to the eye line more.

>>2818146
firez pls

>>2818189
woops forgot layer

>>2817793
Thanks. Could you show me with a red line?

>>2818189
>>2818192
Thank you very much!

>>2818146
It looks kind of flat

>>2818068
The face looks too flat

>>2818068
Face looks as flat as a washboard.

>>2818068
I'm not sure if you know this but...you ruined it anon. The face feels too flat, how does one fuck up someone's drawing so badly. Jesus christ, this is why /ic/ is trash, so many trolls

>>2818148
>Still have trouble with hair, do you have a good tutorials/pdf to make beautiful flowing hair?
try using a knife, or a needle, or something pointy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-NqaB1-F8o
This guy is an experienced professional who has worked for Riot (the company that made League of Legends). This guy is legit you should check him out to educate yourselves.

>>2818246
what do you mean

>>2818246
Good troll mate, good troll

>>2818148
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5_Uv_YyAWY

>>2818068
Why would you taint the thread with this atrocity?

>>2818248
Just do it subtly or it would look really weird.

>>2818252
?
It can look weird, but it can help if you know how to handle it

>>2818256
I bet anon is crying now

>>2818068
>tfw it looks alright but everyone doesn't seem to think so
Does this mean I don't got the spark?

>>2818268
It's not terrible, but it does kinda feel like a downgrade.

>>2818068
he >>2818074 is right
face too flat... i fixed

>>2818273
Fuckin top keks m8. GG, anon will never get help now, only trolls

>>2818273
perfect

thinking about doing all the founding fathers in this style

>>2818288
best president imo

>>2818292
Nigga aint got nothin on George Washington m8.

So I've been trying to develop a style that combines anime influences with a western comic style. This is where I currently am.

I find my biggest obstacle has been adapting to digital drawing vs traditional it seems.

What do you guys think? This is meant to be She Hulk btw.

>>2818297
I like it.

>>2818297
Reminds me kinda of the stuff you'd see in a How to draw Manga book

>>2818306

IT'S THAT BAD?

consider me destroyed

>>2818309
That's pretty good though. It looks super slick and clean.

>>2818309
It's not bad per se, it just looks like a drawing that looks like a person who tried to draw anime from a Western perspective. It kind has a 90s anime aesthetic to it the way you shaded the hair but personally I do think you could do some more experimentation with the eyes. The linework is super sexy though, I like it, keep it up man.

>>2818327

How do you propose I approach eyes ?

>>2818338
Get out a sketchbook and draw blank faces. Then have fun and experiment with different shapes and effects. It's important to design eyes on the face when you do experiment them because you want to make sure they can function within the the skull and don't look wonky.

>>2818347

That's pretty much what I do, that's how i got to this point. I guess all that's needed is more practice then.

>>2818347
And try doing different expressions with them as well. Some might be more expressive than others. You don't have to get exactly one that you like but try to narrow down at least 2 or 3. You should use different eye shapes and face shapes for characters in general, but try to use the the 1 as the standard and the others as variations of that standard.

>>2818354
Good luck! This is the hard part of stylization, you gotta experiment on breaking and bending the rules to see with what you can get away with. It'll be weird to figure out but nothing feels better than developing a style that you made yourself.

I typically do find that I feel like my art doesn't have enough dynamism,life, pop, or w/e you want to call it.

I dont know if it's that i dont have enough of a grasp of gesture drawing or what, but I definitely feel faces need a lot of work.

critique on this? Trying to making my own style.

>>2818366

kinda old, but eh

>>2818423
Nice, got any comics?

>>2818424
I've been sitting on a few ideas for years, I just have such little motivation. I'd love to do a comic though.

>>2818426
You should execute some of them! That'd be great. It never hurts to try.

>>2818431
>>2818426
>>2818424
>>2818423
nice pat on your own back

>>2818068
you made it better but half the thread seems to have gone blind.

>>2818297
the face is terrible, it has no depth

>>2818453
when compliments are so rare on a board that the automatic response is to assume someone is samefagging

>>2818457
How so

>>2818470
Ignore him
Some people said exactly this about a pic and then devolved into spamming shitposting
He is memeing you

Did a quick piece today

>>2818508
It's too baby-faced

>>2818514
Well that guy wanted it that way, but yeah I guess I probably went overboard with that, I should do more studies later

Can I get a crit before I finish up

>>2818533
ref??

>>2816340
This is great. How did you get the lines like that?

>>2817993
Eyebrows not thick enough/10

>>2818537

No ref used

It's frowned upon to tell the truth here isn't it?

>>2818592
No, where do you think you are?

>>2818592
Yes, we all lie, so you must too.

>>2818148
I like the flow og the little dudes. But it would look better if you studied more anatomy

>>2818255
Good lord that guy is obnoxious.

>>2818692
Yeah he is a little obnoxious but he does have good advice. And he is a professional so he usually knows what he's talking about

Why is it that as soon as an artist gets decent around here /ic/ gets so vicious at him. It's like they don't know how to give constructive criticism, just memes like "symbol drawing" "loomis" because they can't draw as good themselves

>>2818825

/ic/ is a bucket of crabs.

>>2818829
What poignant and accurate description. This is is what /ic/ is in a nutshell.

>>2818832
You put an extra "is", autismo

>>2818832

Yup. Combine envy with pettyness like >>2818833 and you got /ic/.

>>2818833
You're the one being the autistic here, grammar fag

>>2818825

Take a look at these two posts below:

>>2818068
>>2816992

These are really good consider what mostly comes out of this board. But there are more people attacking it and calling it shit instead of leaving helpful criticism.

>>2818845
Firez is a meme so everybody loves shitting on him. Poor bastard.

>>2818861

Was that Firez? Wow he's actually gotten a lot better the last time I saw him in 2013.

I remember he'd do that thing where he'd post "updates" on his paintings where he only changed 1 or 2 miniscule things.

Decided to do a quick redo sketch after lurking on /beg/. Thoughts? Left it at sketch stage in case I need to redo it again

>>2818920
Forgot to resize it, sorry

>>2818923
cute! got a blog anon?

>>2818926
Drop the meme please.

>>2818923
The head and neck are too large, the right hande is messed up and missaligned and the left hand looks like a piece of cardboard.
Most notable though, there's no sense of form at all, it just feels flat all around. Work on your fundamentals anon. Also, try drawing your heads in an angle that's not fron or 3/4,

>>2818923
>>2818938
its still MILES better than his first one trust me.
Keep it up, you improved already. Though you've still got a lot to learn

>>2818842
Yeah, /ic/ is shit.
Lets stay

>>2818923
The wrist part is too large
The face is kinda tiny

>>2818947
>>2818926

>/ic/ has gotten to a point so shit where I can't legitimately tell if it's shitposting or sincere anymore

>>2818938
Post work

>>2818967
He's right you know.

>>2818938
Not the same guy as >>2818967
but could you give me a ballpark on how big the neck and head should be shrunk. I have drawn and posted head practices on diff angles on /ic/ before so I have just done the same thing over and over again.

>>2818985
This should give you proportions of the hand in relationship to the head

>>2818959
>>talks about shitposting
>>uses shitty animu art
>>good job you're one of them

>>2818985
so I haven't just done*

>>2818985
For females, the shoulders should be about 2heads width, although it can vary slightly depending on age/complexion.

>>2815869
Loomis.

>>2818985
>>2819001
Your head and neck look okay by themselves, but they're too large when compared to the rest of the body. Try to redo the entire thing but make sure you pay attention to the proportions during construction.

>>2819004
Slightly disturbing, but okay! I'll work on it.

>>2818995
>animu art
>art
>expects anime to have some type of artistic merit
>he doesn't know it's to stay on a budget
>he doesn't know it's to make animation easier and cost effective
>he spends hours trying to copy from "good" anime

>>2819006
This excuse would work like 15 years ago but these days anime can be better drawn than the manga thanks to computer shortcuts.

>>2819006
lel, anon you mistake me for one of those people who drawfag on /ic/. I like art and I love the memes here but I don't post here because only 25 percent of the people here actually know what the fuck they're talking about.

>>2819009
Thank you for proving me correct that you're just here to shitpost.

Looks like you're using six head proportions. This model should help, as it includes the 6 head version

>>2819013
>>2819001
/ic/, you might be a little shit sometimes but I love of all of you guys, even the shitposters and haters. Thanks for all the help, I'll keep trying.

>>2819016
You're better off leaving now before you attract another bout of autism, /ic/ officially died about four years ago when the great butthurt of the century ensued and gave way to the witchhunts that drove competent draftsmen away. The days of dedicated redline threads and actual constructive criticism are gone.

>>2819021
I do know where I am, so I usually take everything with a grain of salt anyway on the internet. On /ic/, I've learned that it's better to take a bag of salt instead.

>>2819021
Is there a reasonable alternative?

Are my eyes tired or the colors are fucked up?
For some reason I just feel uncomfortable looking at this pic.
An I tired or did I fuck up color palette or something?
Is it too bright?

Sorry for not responding for awhile, had do a few things. I quickly redid the body in 5 minutes. Is this more correct? I didn't put the clothes or details on as I just want to focus on the proportions for now.

>>2819130
The colors look fine.
The tones themselves are not pastel clear, but it definitely is not hard on the yes.
You can go bed now and pretend you are going to sleep but not before you jack off and browse in your phone.

>>2819169
on the *eyes

Hue, a letter can change the entire context

>>2819169
Nice crit anon, although I personally just have a wank twice instead and then go to bed.

>>2819168
Shit, forgot to upload file.

>>2819330
For some reason I couldn't upload a file an hour ago

Good night, anons!

>>2819352
>tumblr art with oversized screentone
>automatic /trash/

>>2819358
wat

>>2819358
What do you mean?

>>2819365
When publishing on paper, screentones have to be enlarged slightly on screen before printing because most of the time it will look like a solid grey instead.However, doing that for online viewing is incorrect as it looks too big.

>>2819368

>>2819368
Do you see how big your dots are compared to other people who use screentone? Even a cartoony and thick lined style like Scott pilgrim doesn't have it that big. At that size it starts to like a polka dot pattern on the legs and not actually shading, which makes it look flat

>>2819379
That's already the maximum setting given the actual size of the canvas is really 638x758.

>>2819384
kill yourself idiot

>>2819403
You really put too much unnecessary energy for doing such thing to me, anon.

>>2819368
Here, I went out of my way to show you an example using clip Studio

>>2819426
Thanks, i'll do better next time.

>>2819426
Each image is exactly the same size canvas you first submitted all put onto one canvas side by side. The edits are very rough but it show you that you have better options in terms of how you could screen tone this piece. Usually you want to get as close as you can to gray as you can but still retain the aesthetic of screentone of having white in between black dots otherwise you'd just use a solid light gray. Screentones in manga have their own aesthetic and it takes practice to get it right.

>>2819436
Damn, an anon actually knew what he was talking about and provided in depth helpful edits. I almost forgot I was on /ic/ for a moment there.

>>2819436
Good stuff.

practice

new thread >>2819479

>>2817765
The mouth is pretty warped anon, both too high, off centre and the wrong form underneath.

>>2818288
That would be rad as hell. Patriots indeed...