/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

this girl looks like katya lischina..

are we only doing portraits of dudes now?

>>2654317
feel free to not be restricted by what's posted as reference

>>2654329
Does anyone have more of these? Preferably younger people.

>>2654317
Homophobic much?

practicing measuring from reference, three-quarter view

from keys to drawing

i don't know shit about shading or hair yet, my b

>>2654367

>>2654367
>>2654369
this was from the last thread, pointers appreciated!

also: these each took like 2-3 hours... i asked this last thread, am i just polishing turds or is it OK to practice drawing like this for so long?

>>2654375

>>2654367
Nose too low, front of throat starts too far back, it's almost in line below the end of the lip. Jaw too high, and for some reason the shading of her left eye makes it look bigger than it shuold

>>2654375
It's normal to take some time on portraits (not sure about 3 hours..) the more you draw, the more you'll pick up on things that will cut down your time significantly.

i cant understand anything and its making me furious. what do?

>>2654398
do more stuff like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ynxpq0E3Suk
Especially the part with drawing the outline of a 3d shape without any of the inside guide lines and focus on visualizing the inside as you do it.

I used to draw a ton when I was younger but unfortunately I got depression when I was in my early teenage years and I just stopped doing it. I've recently been trying to get back into it, and luckily I still remember some about basic proportion, but I'm still a beginner like everyone else.
I've been trying to jump right into digital painting, but I always feel like whenever I draw like that it just looks terrible. I think that it's the coloring and understanding of shading with color mostly, because I never really did any of that before. If anyone could critique aside from my suspicion or link some good color tutorials (not videos, I'm on a data cap,) I'd appreciate it.

>>2654419
Sorry forgot image

>>2654326
Roll

>>2654334
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cast+head

>>2654402
so what just draw a cube shifting iteself through the page as tho the page was 3d space rather than a flat surface, and try to keep it the 'same' size

>>2654440
It's not "just draw a cube shifting itself." The entire point is to think in 3d. Until you make that breakthrough you aren't gonna be understanding anything in drawing.

>>2654431
Okay I'll draw tomorrow, going to sleep now.

>>2650481

does anyone have any tips on italian renaissance drawing/painting?

I've never really done stuff like that. and on my second day of class it looks like I'll have to draw in that style.

of course there will be a demo on how to in class but im not really feeling confident in it. since all I do is shitty animu

>>2654295
Oh my, didn't expect to see my post in the OP

>>2654491
>italian renaissance
Too broad a category. Also, if the only stuff you do is animu then all academic/realistic art will be the same to you.

>>2654439
Kek

>>2654518
yeah, what I was trying to say, im not great at it. and I dont know much about Italian renaissance pictures other than mona lisa, the jesus table thing, adam and god.

sorry, maybe i'll ask again when I get my actually a assignment from the prof

>>2654398
Give up.

I've finally decided to start drawing lines. If I did these on pencil and paper, they would never get started. Good thing I bought an intuos 3 for this sole reason

How are my lines?
I just started yesterday

>>2654668
Also, when Peter Han gives out homework does he intend people to do 1 hour a day for a week?

>>2654668
>Did it 288 times in an hour

Looks like I'll make it at that rate.

>>2654668
If they're not straight, then they're not good. Simple as that. Don't worry. It always looks like shit in the beginning, just means you lack control.

>>2654671
Peter Han tells you to do as much as you want to do to improve. You could do it 18 hours a day if you wanted to improve that much. If you want to do 1 hour, then do 1 hour.

>>2654676
It's not about speed, but control, if you're not focusing each stroke, then you're not doing the exercise correctly.

>>2654296

>>2654301
Send

>>2654683
Everytime.

Read OP.
Read sticky.

>>2654329
Help

>>2654688
I'm so fucking shit

>>2654685
>>2654688
>>2654707
Stop posting then and go draw more.

You only post for help, not for attention.

>>2654709
Anon, I do want help.

>>2654714
I gave it to you, stop posting and draw more. That's all a beginner needs. If you don't want to follow my advice and give up, go for it.

>>2654717
In too deep to give up.

>>2654678
>18 hours in a day

I don't think you'd be improving at that point. It'd be more like mindlessly scribbling on a piece of paper.
Not everyone is a colonial marine.

>>2654707
For fuck's sake you could've included everything in a single post.

- Both heads look rotated/biased counter-clockwise. The edge of the paper is visible and i don't think its due to how you took the picture. Must be due to the underlying construction lines you used...

-Construction lines: You look like your trying to do a hybrid of drawing from the reference and from your head (with the help of the wire frames). Pick one. Otherwise your just bullshitting yourself into thinking you captured the form. Your proportions end up being off and there's some symbol drawing. Have you tried "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain"?

>>2654735
Yeah I've read that and done the exercises, eyes are hard for me too not symbolize. I see what you mean about the hybrid aspect. I think I'm not seeing correctly. I am pretty burnt out at this point.

Took about 3 hours (exercise shoukd have been 40mins) and I did not have enough room on the page because I drew too big.

I have no drawing experience whatsoever, except drawing in the 6the grade mainly.

Where do I go from here?

>>2654326
roll

>>2654746
>does this which is clearly from the sticky
>asks what to do now
I mean, the sticky already tells you, but because you make me wanna scream. Pick up Keys to Drawing from the Book Thread and do the whole thing. It should last you at least a month.

>>2654749
thanks, and sorry for the annoyance

>>2654746
The horse! DO THE HORSE

>>2654759
Like anon said, work on Keys to Drawing and use this thread if you are truly stuck.

Enjoy your journey

critique and tips on this
also im starting figure drawing by steve huston book, trying to git gud at drawing character concepts (not anime themed)

>>2654814
If it doesn't look like the image in the book, it's probably wrong.

An other anon suggested I do something else if I'm burning out. So I'm gonna do some stuff I enjoy doing. And studies I haven't burnt myself out on. Such as gesture.

>>2654816
its not supposed to be from the book, i did it solo
i just said im starting the book as in i WILL start reading the book, i haven't started yet

>>2654855
Then, it's wrong because you don't even know how to do it. So, get started.

>>2654816
just scrolled through and found that so decided to see if i can do it solo lel from mind after looking at it once failed though

Fuck man, I just can't get hands down no matter what I do. This is so incredibly frustrating.

>>2654864
Welcome to the world of the artist.
Just keep at it and it'll just click.
You might regress and that happens, but you'll go up.

>>2654814
Is that harambe? Doesn't look human

>>2654853
Very rough wip for a wordless one page comic. Telling a pretty simple visual "story". It's what I rolled.

>>2654870
ill take 1cup just-ice for harambe

>>2654873
I honestly can't even tell what's going on anon.

>>2654873
is that second panel a mouth or eyes

having to ask that question already means a lot

Is it just possible that maybe I was never meant to be an artist. I mean, if it was meant to be, I wouldn't of been stuck in this thread for years and I'd have my own thing going by now. Instead, I'm in my mid twenties and have no serious collection of artwork to show for it. No creativity, no style, fucking nothing. What the fuck am I doing?

>>2654880
>>2654896
I can tell what's going on, it's super rough you're not really supposed to. Unless I had to work with an inker or something.

>>2654814
Practice proportions first, they're off. Don't contour, use basic forms. I haven't read Huston, so I'm not sure what you wanted to do here, but it's neither gesture nor a proper figure drawing. I'd suggest to start with quick studies of the relationship between the 8 core body parts (head, ribcage, pelvis, spine and the 4 limbs). Draw some simplified mannequins with focus on proportions. Don't overthink it. A few pages of one to two minute studies should give you a decent feel of the relation between those parts.

>>2654816
Great advice, faggot.

>>2654923
>Great advice, faggot.
Thanks pal.

I did these some time ago because I keep starting and stopping...I'll try start up again tomorrow and really get into it and focus on the fundamental til I get good.

I've been starting and stopping for years - this has been ongoing for a decade where I haven't managed to finish anything personal. Does anyone else have this problem or was able to get over it?

>>2654927
dropped pic.

>>2654919
>meant to be

Anon the world isn't some mythical destiny that you're experiencing. Stop self loathing. Stop making excuses for yourself to fall back on.

Try harder, draw more, or stfu and quit.

>>2654927
You get over it when you realize what you really want. As long as you haven't stopped drawing forever, you haven't quit, so just know that when you stop for a bit. It's a break, everyone needs one.

>>2654929
It should have stayed dropped. That's just sad.

>>2654929
>>2654938
Don't listen to shit posters like this. Keep at it anon

>>2654923
Thanks for pointing out stuff

>>2654931
I'll stfu and quit. Fuck you.

>>2654932
Thanks anon, this does uplift my spirits somewhat.

My dad has recently started painting and drawing and he's churning out heaps of nice work, so that gives me hope that it isn't all over yet.

>>2654940
Thank you kind anon.

>>2654919
>there are people on this board right now that still don't get that drawing is the simplest and most logical art in existence that literally anyone can master given enough time and understanding

>>2654944
There are tons of people in this world right now that believe this. It's honestly because people made artists into special snowflakes, but that's another discussion.

>>2654942
Cya anon, it's a cold reality you need to face regardless.

>>2654739
There's always tomorrow. Give it a rest and remember to keep it fun.

is this a good monitor for digital painting?

ASUS MX259H 25" Full HD 1920x1080 AH-IPS HDMI VGA Back-lit LED Monitor

>>2654919
>inb4 neuroplasticity

>>2651869
tried for bateman, got feels guy

>>2654929
Don't forget the advice I gave to you.

Be sure to pay attention and keep trying.

tried following the last anons advice but I just cant see more to the face shades etc

>>2655060
She's got a lot more red than you've given her. Cheeks and nose particularly.

You seem afraid to use darker colours. Don't worry about messing up, it's the grace of digital. Work with high contrast, you'll find it looks less plan and washed out.

Is this good construction for the head?

>>2654326
roll

>>2655106
Perspective is off.
Look at the angle off the brow compared to the chin.
Since the chin is lower and you are looking more down at it, the angle should appear similar or steeper than the angle of the brow.

>>2655076

is this any better :(

>>2655130
this better? tried turning the head more

>>2655135
wrong image lol

Yoooooo just having a bit of fun tonight

(actually I'd particularly appreciate critiques on froggo, 'cause I'd like to finish that one and post it to the tower thready thingy)

>>2655010
Thanks, I made 3 sheets and the fraying is already much better, found the angle that fits me the most for straight lines, and elbow fixed on desk seems to work better.
The "line ghosting"exercise really helps, and it's getting fun with planes, so I'll try to combine everything at the end of the lesson.

well then why the fuck are you making us do it

>>2655215
You're not going to improve if you only do try things that you can easily do.

>>2655215
You learn more from your failures

A common sentiment across all skills

>>2654606
What would you recommend I resize my pictures to ?

First time doing digital. Feel free to tear me a new one, I've been struggling with progress recently.

>>2655284
Looking good, sure you'll figure out digital and fix all those blatant mistakes.

are these right? how can i mark in the basic cheekbones better ?

>>2655293
You'll know if it's right when you draw a face over it.

>measure shit with craniums
>make sure it's proper
>comes out looking way too long
Fucking shit I'm beyond god damn mad right about now

>>2655293
The ears are way off.

>>2655321
i dont mean that specific spot if that means anything anon. just that general side plane, bit lower, but just above the jaw bone, corner, thing.

>>2655293
>>2655297

this
just try drawing a face and see what happens

>>2654474
can anyone tell me how to improve this
maybe how to stylize or maybe how to render quicker so I don't have messy stroke lines everywhere

yo /ic/. tell me schedules through which you can get good with just by blindly following them. they can be absolutely insane schedules (8h a day+), i don't care. hit me with it faggots

This is actually helping me understand the head in space. Can anyone concur? I've done Loomis and this is my start at reiley abstraction. How is this effectively applied to real people ? I 've watched demonstrations but I always butcher it.

>>2655344
Read Fun with Pencil and take 8 hours to study on each page.

You'll get better without a doubt.

>>2655344
>which you can get good with just by blindly following them
none

>>2655133
Try mixing cool colors in shadows and warm colors in highlights it'll add more depth

>>2655356
I use Reilly's as well because Loomis' method never worked that well for me. Just keep practicing and try drawing a complete head with it. If you're experienced enough, applying Reilly doesn't necessarily mean you need to draw that entire diagram every single time, with experience just a few bits of it is enough.

lazy lighting.
done on Corel painter 5

How do you do studies? Let's say I were to study Fun with a Pencil, what does that actually entail? Any enlightening videos, anons?

>>2655407
this is impressive. good job anon.

>>2655413
Thanks, I really appreciate that

>>2654326
Rollin'

Help me /ic/, what did i do wrong in this piece? And how can i go past line art and go for painterly things?

>>2655407
I like it, but one of my pet peeves is big empty space without much going on.

>>2655437
yeah its quite bare. I was thinking of some sort of futuristic city or a destroyed one in the foreground.

>>2655442
Or some moon/planet/star?
Maybe a big ass spaceship partially hidden by the clouds.

>>2655442
its always an abandoned/desolate city or landscape, why not a lush, thriving city in the background? like this dude is just a piece of history amidst modernity.

>>2655471
>>2655482
I will try to incorporate some of these elements into it tomorrow folks

>>2655522
an abandoned city being healed by nature.

>>2654299
Hey! Who's in charge here?

>>2654295
haven't posted in months. hello again!

>>2655643
nice botanicals and hello

>>2655643
Welcome back, I feel like I recognize your stuff
Blog, if you have one?

I drew this from memory on the back of a calc test.

How'd I do?

>>2655792
very nice

>>2654326
Rol

redid this slut. so dissappointed i can't get the face right. i feel like the body is better though.

>>2655827
Measure more

>>2655832
try drawing bigger

>>2655832
>>2655865
try drawing better

>>2655866
sick advice mate

>>2655866
BOY

>tfw thought this fun with a pencil shit was easy by just skimming the book
>attempt funny old men on balls
>can't do it
What the fuck Loomis, why can't I do these features? You made it look so easy.

>>2654382
Thanks for the crit yo

>>2654385
I think I just had a hard time letting go lmao

Thanks though m8

>>2655160
Cute thom

I guess you can form a line here for my autograph.

>>2655870 well so much for doing the whole thing over just to get a shitty crit

>>2654326
Roll

>>2654329
Had some trouble with the eye on the left

>>2654927
Going through this currently. I keep saying tomorrow. This time for sure. I'll see you at the top anon

>>2656035
read the OP of the thread before you post in it

>>2656036
Today! I believe in you, anon! You can do it! Ganbatte!

>>2654326
rollin

>>2656042
reroll because I left my trip on by accident

>>2656041
You're right. Gonna sketch some shit here or do some gestures. Or both

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYzMYcUty6s

>>2656045
low quality rushed gatto

>>2656047
You're going to make it! Keep at it!

how often should I be drawing a day? I can do 2-4 hours a day easily, but 7-8 hours of fundamental practice is really monotonous

>>2654326
Rtd

>>2656055
Sticky answers your question which you can go read later since I'm going to answer it too.

You draw as much as you want to improve. If you want to improve 2-4 hours at a time, then do that. The more you put in, the more you're likely to improve. That's all there is to it really.

>>2656058
that makes a lot of sense, thanks anon

I want to study traditional (pencil and paper) technical and isometric drawing techniques, but I can't find any good resources. Can anybody point me in the right direction?

>>2656093
How to draw by Scott Robertson looks like your direction.

>>2656097

Thanks a lot. This seems to be exactly what I'm after.

>>2656061
Bear in mind that, for deliberate practice where you really think hard as you are drawing, you likely won't be able to do more than 4-5 hours in a day. You definitely can do art for more hours a day, but more of it will just be going through the motions. Even world-class athletes and musicians are limited by their concentration, not necessarily their time, so just keep this in mind. If you are practicing hard, and constantly keeping your mind in the game, then 4-5 hours is probably as good as it gets. That said, there's plenty of things you'll eventually get to that take time, but not necessarily a lot of brain power. With those, you can take it above 4-5 hours.

>>2656047
>>2654296
Any tips on rendering?

mfw ill never get to the level I want

>>2655832
Face seems to be a little longer in original photo, and the value around the neck is a little too dark in my opinion. Otherwise everything else is hella smooth and badass m8

>>2654668
Is this good enough to go ahead and stop drawing lines over and over?

I'm pretty sure I'm going to continuously use this through every drawing/study I'll ever do.

>>2656122
well if you're gonna say that, why not just give up now?

>>2656130
Yeah, you're free to move on already, pal. You draw with lines all the time anyways later, so don't sweat the exercises.

>>2656130
stop this, improve your linework/draftsmanship as you draw don't just focus on it by itself

>>2656130
I think I should do at least 1 or 2 more days before I move on though.

>>2656138
What exactly do you actually want to draw? Do that instead

>>2656135
That's not what it's about. This exercise is all about drawing from the arm and thinking about how to move your arm a certain way to achieve what you want to. It becomes innate with practice, but not if you don't start.

I really learned some nice motor control from doing all of this "garbage"

I will continue with the Peter Han course if so many people are upset though.

>>2656138
Sure if it'll bring you more confidence, go for it.

>>2656111
Have fun, anon! I'm glad I could help.

>>2656135
I don't know if you should say that though.
Look at my arc on my initial day
>>2654668
and then look at my latest arc

It's a drastic improvement.

>>2654329
This is the best I can muster, the primary question however is whether or not I correctly made use of my construction (reilly method)

>>2655753
thank you
>>2655762
thanks, I don't have a blog, I only post in here.

>>2655435
Help please?

>>2654422
Watch proko on youtube to get a better idea on how to draw the head and drop color all together to focus on value.

>>2655435
>>2656243
No perspective, bad composition, too little contrast, the pose is boring and unreadable, the face is too dark.

>how can i go past line art and go for painterly things?
Right now you should be more focused on sketching.

>>2656313
i will sketch your mom

>>2655435
I can't even tell what the fuck that is supposed to be

>>2655435
The spooky atmosphere is cool, but the perspective doesn't make sense and the sketch itself is quite unreadable. It would probably benefit you to try rendering a bunch of simpler objects, like cubes and vases and such, before attempting to render something so complex - I certainly wouldn't feel confident in doing something like that so maybe I'm the wrong person to give advice, but see the pic I attached for what strikes me as the biggest issues with this one. I also think it's a bad move composition wise to cut off the bottom of the legs and chair.

>>2655976
Thank ya

Any glaring fault or issues?

>>2655282
Not him, but I personally crop all scans, then resize the longer side to 800px (maintaining proportion). Don't overwrite your original at that size, save a new copy to upload.

>>2655832 wow thank you :)

wtf I hate hair now

>>2654326
ROLL

>>2656360
Wow, Thanks anon, i'll definitely look into it more!

>>2654326
Rollan'

>>2656317
Well... go ahead, I don't think she would mind.

>>2656392
He has holes in the back of the skull.

Daily reminder that I will NEVER be good at drawing

>>2656451
Daily reminder that you WILL be good at drawing if you stick with it long enough

>>2654326
rollin to git gud

juust fuck my shit up :(
pls respond

>>2656472
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>>2656472
Looks flat

Measure properly so you place features correctly. Push your values harder to create depth. Stick to black and white so you understand values better. Study the planes of the face to know how light reacts to it.
Study the skull so you know how features sit in it.

Study

>>2656472
the jacket is actualy cool, but the whole head face hair thing you got going on is pretty messed up. learn how to judge the distance between things and the angle!

Something seems to be off.

>>2656489
the left eye is too low and the left side of her face is bent too much into the middle. try adding some symmetry lines to the face, you will see that it is entirely asymmetrical. if you use photoshop you should be able to fix it with the morphing tool tho family

>>2656489
try flipping your canvas horizontally every now and then as you're drawing

>>2656489
the first thing i saw were the eyes, they are of kilter.

>>2656493
>>2656499
>>2656503
She actually looks like this in the reference I used.

>>2656459
daily reminder I will ALWAYS be bad

>>2656511
nigger actually trace the fucking reference
not to actually use it as a sketch, no. look how off your original sketch is from this. because holy shit, i didnt even realize that was supposed to be the same person.
stop symbol drawing.

>>2656511
>i dont want criticism i just want people to tell me my sketch looks good and i dont have to worry :^(

>>2656551
I wouldn't post my shit here if I didn't want criticism.

Tried to fix a few things and added some values. Something is still off but I have no idea what.

>>2656551
I wouldn't post my shit here if I didn't want criticism.

Tried to fix a few things and added some values. Something is still off but I have no idea what.

>>2656481
>>2656472

Who in their right mind draws Taylor Swift?

>>2656574
I love Taylor Swift she is beautiful

>>2656489
>>2656573
Her eyes are too big. They only look huge in the subject because they're dark.

It's supposed to be 4 down from the eye to the bottom of the nose, not 3.

>>2656576
Yeah but there are a million other cute girls on the internet.

Open your mind.

>>2656582
yes but they usually dont have high-res proffesional photos

>>2656585
It doesn't matter.
They're cuter than Taylor Swift.

>>2656588
yes it does matter when I want to learn more about facial details

>>2656415
Why did you make her hair yellow when it's so far from that?

It's more of a de-saturated orange.

>>2656589
No it doesn't. You're lying.
You should spend more time looking for cute girls on the internet before you post here.

>>2656592
I could not get that color, dunno why
the sliders are sometimes confusing
nevermind tho, next time ill be better

>>2656597
Good attitude, colour picking the reference hair gives more of a skin colour than a yellow - more pink than anything,

?

>>2656511
>>2656573
A good way to find your own mistakes is to overlay your drawing and the original. If that still doesn't work, go ahead and trace key points of the image and then overlay the trace to your drawing. Then the mistakes should stand out.

I went ahead and first marked a few key things about the ref. The shadow on her face was a bit confusing at first. I did a rough trace myself so I could compare and see more clearly. I had noticed a few things but not everything that was wrong until I overlayed everything.


People are pointing out the eyes a lot, which are definitely off, but you at least got the spacing correct. The biggest problem is how the features are pulled to the left, and to compensate you misaligned the neck.
Also I'm pretty sure the girl in your photo is wearing a wig, this reference really isn't the best- there's a lot of information in it that is ambiguous.

>>2656511
hahaha hey sometimes nature doesn't get it quite right. it is good to study anatomy and have a good understanding of how the symmetry of our bodies work, but alot of the time people are not good example of great anatomy! alot of people have arms slightly longer than the other, injuries or that cause changes in the way their skeletal structure is. also have you ever done the face thing where you cut your face in half and flip it to create the other side of your face, its crazy wierd!

>>2655399
Are there in depth lessons on this, I understand the general idea of finding planes and rhythms. I am assuming you just learn the model, and apply the rhythms to references? I'm curious if there are guidelines to follow, someone explaining the rhythms. TL;DR what's the most effective way to learn these rhythms and how they interact?

>>2656511
the wig is obscuring the actual size of her cranium probably. Stay away from those k-pop stars none of them are real people.

>>2656602
Bruh go draw some skulls right now

>>2656634
k, y?

>>2656638
It'll help you with drawing mugs, trust me senpai.
You won't have to guess where the cheekbones etc. are when you're drawing heads once you know what a skull looks like from different angles.

>>2656644
i cant draw a skull senpai.

>>2656649
Nigga copy some pictures of skulls I mean shit do you want me to hold your hand while you're doing it

>>2656650
Well it would be nice. ill just look up the loomis skull things.

>>2654326
rolling

>>2656649
what can you do?

>>2656656
i can roll my tongue.

So, I'm learning drawing at its base, never done it before, and want to figure it out all from a beginning point. I was told by someone to check out a pdf online that basically had starter info, the different types of pencils and what they do, and ways to hold your pencil, but I can't for the life of me remember what it was called. Can anyone help me?

>>2654326
rolling

>>2656663
Nevermind! I found it out again, apologies for taking up posting space.

Peter Han feels like such an awkward dude.

I think it's the lisp and the strange facial features.

>>2656392
the biggest is probably that it wasnt rotated

What do you draw with, /beg/?

>>2656678
with my dick

>>2656678
>there are people in this thread that don't toedraw

NGMI

>>2656678
wacom bamboo deck

>>2656650
Right okay i washed my face and flushes away the dumb and sad. Okay shall i go over pictures of skulls to try and find the cheek position? could i simplify the skull, make it easier for me to understand?

tried a quick study to get proportions and basic anatomy, any glaring issues?
still finding it really hard to make my hand do what I want when drawing digitally.

>>2656691
my suggestion is dont do quick studies, do good studies
obviously you've got everything wrong, proportions, angles, measurements

Is Nsio right or is it just a meme?

>>2656602
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsTd5zk_As8

>>2656724
nice 1 senpai.

>>2654326
Roll

>>2654326
rollin

>>2656724
>Everything i spent shit loads of time learning is wrong
Haha, wow.

>>2656737
You will encounter this in all facets of art. What matters is getting over it. Many artists drop learning because of this. Don't be a statistic.

>>2656392
black out the eye sockets so it does not look like he has holes in the back of his skull

Is it okay if when doing a study, I erase and redraw a couple of times because I feel somethings wrong?
I mean in terms of learning, should I always start over?

>>2656750
It's okay.

>>2656741
who should i follow then vlippu skulls or loomis skulls? i dont want to draw realism, i want to do comics/cartooney shit. and holy fuck is all this going way over my head.

When I'm gesture drawing, I spend more time looking at the photo and drawing without looking because I feel rushed. This seems counter-productive and my drawings look like complete shit. Am I doing it wrong? Should I give myself more time to correctly draw without feeling rushed?

When I was going to an art school, a common exercise we did was drawing a subject without looking at the paper. I'm not sure if this was the same thing or not.

>>2656756
>i want to do comics/cartooney shit

Pic related. It's not a matter of WHO you have to follow, it's whoever clicks with you better.

>>2656759
When I looked at the figure too much I started focusing on the contour. Glance at the subject, memorize a rhythm of their body and draw it. At least that's what helped me break free from the contour shit. Also you reallyt shouldn't be rushed if you're doing it correctly, bump up your time to 30 seconds then whittle yourself down over time.

>>2656760
loomis then.

attempting another one :((

>>2656760
regarding the loomisy method of constructing the head, how can i include the cheekbone to help give me a sense of eye placement? or does he cover that at all?

>>2656719
Can't you just see for yourself?

>>2656737
>>2656741
This is how learning works: you study something (from a class, a book, a tutorial, or observation), you apply it yourself (you draw), you review it (or someone else does it for you), and from the critique you modify your earlier understanding of the technique or principle, or you modify how you approach it, and then you go back to studying more. Learning a new or better way of doing it also falls into this scheme.

You will always (sooner or later) come back to relearning the same thing over and over, picking up something you missed the last time, or seeing it in a completely new way, or just refreshing it. The important thing is not to get discouraged by this: the wheel turns in a circle, but you're still moving forward.

Not a beginner but can someone explain to me the purposes of drawing with carpenters pencils? I'm very interested

>>2654326
Roll

>>2654326
roll

Drawing on my phone at work.

>>2656863
some people have preferences for certain brushes in photoshop
it's just about what feels good to you, that gives an effect that you like

>>2656863
I guess you could use the wider tip for larger and smoother strokes, kind of like holding the pencil at a very low angle.

>>2656863
>>2656881
just googled them. sounds legit, i always wanted that effect with my pencil sketches so i'd have to sharpen my pencils in a weird way

what is symbol drawing and how do i stop it

>>2656884

>>2654326
Rollan

>>2656719
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmj6u5NZ1DE

>>2654326
Rolling

Can someone direct me in the right direction to learning this? I can't find anything on the process of doing this is side views or anything.

>>2654329
I found it easier to spot errors and fix mistakes when I turned the paper upside-down.

>>2656132
not him but, thays a good point. i quit.

>>2656894
So I got 'Draw the ugliest person you can manage'
Is this to cartoony for this thread?

>>2654369
I tried this, eyes came out a bit bigger and there are features that should be shifted a bit like the hair line. I'm moving on.

Was told to post this here. What should I focus on practicing? What would you change if you drew it?

>>2656938
I'd start by reading the sticky. Go do that. Before someone here crushes you anon. GO, QUICKLY. WHY ARE YOU STILL READING THIS? GO READ THE FUCKING STICKY!

>>2656938
Don't read the sticky. It's a waste of time. Just keep posting and practicing

>>2656959
>waste of time
Kek, what is he possibly going to learn by posting in /beg/ ? There is nothing for him here. There is nothing to critique in his doodle other than the fact that he lacks all fundamental principles. Thus he can discover in the sticky.

He needs to read the sticky.

>>2656943
>>2656959
I feel conflicted. Just tell me what you'd change about it.

>>2656970

Hey kid, scrap it and read the sticky. Learn to let go of crap and pick up a book from step 1.

>>2656970
Nothing, read the sticky anon. It's garbage. You'll get better if you just go and read a bit. Come back with something we can work with.

>>2656969
>what is he possibly going to learn by posting in /beg/
that he's better than you because he doesn't waste time crying

>>2657004
Lul

>>2656938

I feel like starting with drawing people isn't the best way to go. I would study basic shapes that can be applied to any type of drawing. Boxes and cylinders and ellipses.

>>2657041
>>2657041
>>2657041

NEW THREAD

>>2657041
>>2657041
>>2657041

>>2654296

>>2656885
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>>2655432

>>2657167
Pretty Cool

>>2657167
Wow, this is great!

>>2657229
>>2657249
Thanks guys

>>2654326
ROLL

>>2657779
>>2654326
Re-roll, I don't want to draw people again

>>2654326
Rolling

>>2657793
Any glaring problems with this before I paint it?

>>2657961
I'm probably going to decide how to frame it/crop it later.

>>2657961
Shit. I just realized I put 2 doors on a 1 door opening.

Any glaring issues with this before I paint it?

Do people actually look at paintings like this? I don't "get" the idea of leading the eye. When I look at a painting my eyes don't robotically follow lines around the picture, I usually just look immediately at the face or brightest spot and then wherever else. Even with all these big red arrows I don't follow them, and I've never felt like "these lines are leading my eye off the page"; the borders of a picture prevent that. What am I missing here?

>>2657984
Well WIP

>>2654326
Roll

>>2654474
i don't know, it looks nice to me
you did well with the gaze and the expression

>>2654326
Rorru

not done yet but how it look so far also wheres are the needs improvements