/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Critique would be great, il post a few of my stff

Anyone know any good books for manga style that isn't done on a computer?
I can do cartoons and realism competently, but weeb shit is my weak point.
The op link is all digital.

>>1922676
Man the fuck up and go learn some basics of perspective that way your characters aren't hideously floating in space on various ground planes within the same image.

Reposting from dead thread, first time working digitally properly, about to move on to colouring but I don't know where to begin with brush settings in Photoshop. aiming to get a watercolour look, any tips?

>>1922722
Color it in with the same brush, add a paper texture. Get rid of the clothing wrinkles while you're at it.

when I can't study, I end up like this.

>>1922674
>>1922675
>>1922676
I like these, there's a lot of personality, you seem like you're having fun. I'd echo >>1922717 and add that you should be more specific in what you want critiqued. What are these for? Visual development? Animation. Just you dicking around in your SB?

>>1922716
clean lines son.

I dislike my style but I'm unsure if its because its bad or because I legit suck.

>>1922674
>>1922675
>>1922676
Dude this is pretty. anime-esque One Piece/ Rebecca Sugar but a little bit more trippy mixed up art. Work on backgrounds now.

I dislike my still but I'm unsure if I'm insecure and think is bad or if it is legit shit.

Had to post something because it's been so long since I posted anything.

>>1922717
Thanks il do that

>>1922774
Thank you, i want to get into character animation

>>1922924
Alrighty will do, yep bang on, One Piece is a big influence, The Reward animation was also

>>1922992
I guess you will like this.
http://samara-in-03.tumblr.com/

Anything needs fixing before I engage in further turd polishing?

>>1922904
Thats a given for anything.
Every time I try it looks distinctly American.

>>1923100
is that supposed to be a fighting stance? her right hand probably needs to foreshorten more if that's the case and her legs are like 2 straight wooden poles.

>>1923151
dont forget, anime charcters have big fucking skulls

>>1920951
Flip the canvas, eyes weren't on the same level.
The knees were cut too high. Also, seems like you didn't have enough space on your canvas and made the head a bit too small.
Otherwise, good, as always.

>>1923415
>You will never ever be able to draw a cute little tsundere witch in greyscale in your lifetime

Truly suffering

>>1923415
her waist is tiny, at least put folds on it.

>>1923167
>>1923100
She looks scared, afraid and insecure, at least that's what her inwards legs, hands and arms position and face imply.
But I can see where you are coming from, her right hand is way more confident than the rest of the body, also insecure people tend to incline the head down a little bit.

Can't get over that it's finished, I want more!

I don't want this show to end ;_;

>>1923476
because you're black?

>>1923415

>>1923476

>>1923483
Thanks. Incorporated some of your ideas in this one

>>1923482
Thanks! that looks a lot better. I definitely made her waist too small and bent.

>>1923505
>>1923476

Anon, both poses look awkward. It's almost as if she broke her neck in the second pic you posted. Go find some reference.

>>1923417
The fuck are you talking about? You're in /ic/. Everyone can draw here.

>>1923478
you want to cuddle?

>>1923482
we little witches now?

>>1923589
>You're in /ic/. Everyone can draw here.

>>1923593
>he cant do it

Better start practicing

>>1923591
>dat nose
you're that guy who drew May with a bubble butt right?
forgot the name, didnt forget the flavor

>>1923594
I was going for a bait joke, but ah well.

>>1923595
might've? I am an ass man.

i'd appreciate it if someone could point me in the right direction/redline that face, it's really driving me up the wall....

>>1923674
What expression do you wanna convey?

>>1923679
Smug

>>1923674
Keep the side plane of the skull in mind, you're flattening the head mass.

>>1923536

Tried something new

>>1923686

This is the ref

>>1923686
really guy, get some ref for these poses, she has no neck atm.

>>1923686
Do a fight pose and dont use reference

>>1923687
>>1923689
whoops

Still observe how he's positioned, his torso is slightly tilted toward the viewer, you flattened that area. With out that foreshortening it looks weird. Her left arm is also short if you're going by the ref.

>>1923689
You don't always see the neck you silly goose. Her head is sticking out towards the viewer hiding the neck.

>>1923689
what about the collar. smarty-pants?

>>1923694

Korra drawer here. I see now that I had a bad case of tunnel vision and stopped using the ref too soon. Oh well, next time it'll be better

>>1923699
>>1923695
see >>1923694

>>1923702
just keep knowin' and grownin'

>>1923598
it was that pokemon girl i think

>>1923686
>>1923687
>using a man as a ref for a female

I dont have a face for this

>>1923685
Thank you.
It's this kind of simple thing that I always tend to forget, I guess I shouldn't force myself to draw into the night everytime

>>1923766
>what is gesture

I am at a hard point in art guys please help me.

I can draw faces very well with a reference. I can't do it so well from imagination. So do I keep practicing from imagination or do practice from reference?

>>1923808
do it from ref.
If you need help with construction I suggest you either Loomis or Proko it up.
If you are more familar then go to Hamptons method of drawing heads

This one isn't done but it's the best I'm working on right now

>>1923819
is this some snakekin shit from tumblr?

>>1923674
I can see a little bit of LM7(opcenter) on the face, and I don't know why. Looks pretty nice, dude.

>>1923822
ah well no
He's from a current comic project me and a few others are working together on.
Here's an older crappy thing I did of him the first time he was dictated to me

I've been mostly concerned with composition and how her hair looks, I think I've been looking at it too long and I can't tell if it's balanced, any advice would be appreciated.

>>1923852
It took a long time for me to find the feet.
I hope you dont think pussy is that big.

Thats about it. Suggestion would be to color it

>>1923852
Yeah, I had a hard time finding her feet and pussy as well.

Other than that, I think the lines are coming a long nice.

>>1923810

>>1923810
>>1923926
Avant garde died.
stop trying

>>1923814
Thanks I have done all 3. I am at a point where I have a very high standard. I am at the point where I am ready to develope my own style .

>>1923949
r u talking about the subject or the style

Porn thread is dying, don't know if this will work here. Not sure where to go next.

>>1923100

Skintones for her left arm seem a bit bland, the face is good though. It might just be a very bright white light...

Theres also no shadow grounding her.

>>1923984
Then make a new thread. I hoped that these threads don't go over their limit but fuck no you are here.

>>1924095
>Alternative Art/Stylization
he fits right in.

>>1923984
left leg extends too far, unless its resting on like a coffee table thing or something off the view.

>tfw you just want to paint a portrait of a cute generic moe girl in knight armor
>tfw you have to study muscles and loomis and perspectives just to draw said qt girl

why is art? I just wanted to draw chinese cartoons

>>1924152
u dont have to know about persp when doing portrait. Portraits are just copy paste of what you have on photo. altho the good guys change stuff they see in photo making it unique.

I will learn to draw so that I can make Darker than Black fanart.

This... is the burning soul of a man's dream.
Absolutia.

>>1923984
is that you kienan lafferty?

>>1924191
Yes

>>1923808
You should always do both. Working from ref/life is important to aquire knowledge, working from imagination/memory to apply and solidify said knowledge and to show you where your weaknesses are - that way you always know what to work on next.

>>1923685
>>1923779
Didn't follow it exactly, but at least the face dosen't bother me as much now. Thank you.

>>1923685
>>1923779
Didn't follow exactly, but you pointed me in the right direction. Thank you.

>>1924268
np, it's working a lot better now.

I'm trying some cartoon rendering but I think I'm falling into the uncanny valley, help plz.

>>1924286
She looks spaced out. Her eyes aren't focused.

>>1924268

>>1924286

im drunk and sad but you are all shits.

>>1924359
I love you too my dear.

>>1924268
i just have to ask, how do you get those paint-like strokes? just started digital drawing and would like to know, sry for being nub

Made a stone golem guy to go along with that blue shaman from last thread

fuck this

>>1924433
i wouldn't fuck it with a 10 foot pole.

>>1924440
Do Poles even grow that tall?

critique pls

>>1924462
9/11

>>1924346
I won't be able to get to this porpotion 100%, but I understand the changes. Thanks again.
>>1924402
I use a slightly textured, square brush.

>>1924462
giggled

>>1924348
Thanks, really cleared up some things for me, got to learn how to control value.

>>1924509
Face still looks pretty gross

>>1924513
as compared to blueline guy?

>>1924522
Yea

>>1924204
wow... are you gay? always suspected. Nothing wrong with that. Just curious.

>>1924509
>>1924513

don't exaggerate the eyelids and sockets so much

also blending with black and gray is killing your color life, get a color wheel addon since you use photoshop

>>1924548
what is good exaggeration.

>>1924536

Uh, I'm not Kienan Lafferty. Some random anon just said yes.

need some help with this, other thread is dead
perspective is off, and coloring is kinda bland in my opinion

Can someone tell me how to make it look like they're kissing? Like exaggerated sucking face?

>>1921642
ive seen that furries like crash, coco and crunch

>>1924599
Good vidya choice, but the heads need a lot of work. The other things can pass at this point but work on the heads. And generally practice doing faces, hair etc.

I did this in my spare time, it's been hell at my job designing stuff that I had to do something for me to clear my mind. It looked different in my head but I liked how it turned out

How do you hair? Maybe I should just make all my characters look like they're going through chemotherapy.

>>1924606
when in doubt, observe real life

look for subtleties and consistencies, dont just draw the shapes you see

>>1924606
You can make their lips overlap.

I haven't practiced kissing yet so this is just what I observed.

Spent the weekend reading Sin City instead of drawing. Now I'm trying to shake off some rust.

>>1924788
a weekend is all it takes to rust? oops.

>>1924793

Enough rust to need a bit of a warmup.

>>1924586
Think I'm at an ok place to end

Alright guys

trying to learn boob anatomy to help give my squiggles an added sense of 3d loomis 2.0 relism

They still look kinda off though. Would appreciate some draw overs.

>>1924829
ebin troll

>>1924831
Not acquainted with these internet rhetoric. 'ebin' means I belong in the internet's recycling bin or something, right?

>>1924833
Sure, you can also use a "le trash man" reaction image for shorthand.

Meme speak is an incredibly nuanced, but rewarding language.

>>1924834
I don't know which one to use. I hear you guys keep whole folders full of these things. Perhaps some sort of database file system is in order.

>>1924837
I dunno, start a memebooru?

>>1924847

I don't know what that means

I just want to draw crap in the morning and post it somewhere that's not dead. Maybe you know a better place, internet snarkdog.

How's my stylizing game? Am I a fuckboi?

>internet snarkdog

In case you aren't trolling.

Why are you so upset? You were obviously dicking around on your first post, so I'm just engaging you casually.

Post if you want, absolutely no one will stop you.

>>1924855
It's perfect.

I recently figured out how to draw lines

it's quite a novelty

>>1924823

>Those fucking eyes

Creepy as shit.

can render multiple triangles per hour with no shading

>>1924859
>>1924871
I actually like these

>>1924861
eh, well I'm on to the next piece.

>>1924872

Yeah, I've been using shit doodles as a mechanism to procrastinate improvement. Thanks for the encouragement!

ehh, last one

>>1924875
>>1924877
Kinda reminds me of Cliff Roberts maybe look him up?

>>1924503
thanks man!

>>1924837
Just browse /v/ for a while.
>>1924854
You stay here forever son. Enjoy

Didn't draw all week, and i forgot everything - posting anyways because the shame will make be better
>1-11 had trouble warming up - all are shit
>12-13 I guess we're ok, but not worth coloring
>14 grinched - I wanted another crack at it
>15 so many things went wrong, lost control of the hips, shirt was colored too dark which made the boobs look lopsided and the arm merge into the shirt. Face isn't right, but I did like the cotton trim...

Anyways, happy holidays - going on vaycay - See you guys next year!

>>1925089
12 and 13 are my favourites.

>>1925089
I think I've told you before, but when you're simply copying someone else's pictures, you need to post the fucking reference or at least give credit. Anyone with a dick can tell this is copied from Hirame aka Service Heaven. More specifically, from his Jinx doujin.

>>1925089
been waitin for table guy to return!

i can understand what >>1925109
is saying.
if youre trying to make a profit off of your work then you should always post the references you used
however if youre just studying and have no intention of selling those drawings its not an absolute necessity unless asked
its a good habbit to keep though so you dont fall into the trap of not citing your references when you do commercial work

other then that though i love the reds of the santa dress
the blending is beautiful and smooth keep it up dude

>>1925149
Stop sugar coating him, stop pampering him, and stop spoiling him.

The other Anon is right he should post his references or at least say he used a reference it does not matter if he is selling it or not when it is time to receive a critique he should post his references otherwise we may get the impression that he drafted those himself but by now we already know he doesn't do that.

>>1925149
It's one thing to use real life reference, as this requires some skill to translate into art.
But when you're directly copying someone else's art, you need to point out that it's copied or referenced, as you're quite literally taking credit for someone else's work.
If he doesn't point this out, he's also misleading the people who are supposed to critique him, as there's a world of difference between criticizing copied art and original art.

>>1925153
>>1925155
i can agree with what was said but

>Stop sugar coating him, stop pampering him, and stop spoiling him.

im complimenting his use of markers and not his use of reference so i feel its okay to give out a compliment on what he did do well

>>1925089
> Rule 63 Grinch/ Cyril Lou Who /ss/

I can't say the word "want" enough.

>>1925109
Oh yea sorry I forgot! more stuff from turtle fish paint guy. I have no intent to steal work I was just careless in my posting.

I kinda did 14 and 15 without refs - at some point all the faces become the same face and I don't need to look at them anymore. What is it called if you copy it from memory?

>>1925149
>>1925095
Thanks - Not drawing last week sucked, I am pretty sure it's going to be hell after New Years so don't forget to practice while I'm slacking off!

>>1925164

You use copic markers, right? I wanna start getting into watercoloring my shit but I haven't attempted anything that wasn't digital coloring so I don't even know where to begin. Plus those shits are mad expensive, yo.

>>1925153
>>1925155
>>1925162
Ugh my posts do not merit this much shit posting - go draw something and move on

I know I have some stuff to work on - no need to lose your lunch over what I should be studying.

Spend your time helping out other anons

>>1925162
Oh sorry I'll take back what I said then.

stop bending over for him, stop stroking his dick, stop giving him those asspats.

>>1925173
sure dude well imma take >>1925169
his advice and go back to drawing

when you can get the stick out your sphincter and appreciate something once in a while instead of always putting others down then i hope you become a happier man

>>1925173
c-can you stroke my dick anon?

Annual self portrait to show myself the lack of progress I'm making.

Pretty much haven't been able to draw the entire year so feel free to kill all of my self-confidence.

>>1925262

You can do this anon, you just gotta believe in yourself and keep drawing everyday and have fun with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxGRhd_iWuE

>>1925417
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>>1925417
/ic/ s-senpai...

>>1925262
small update. not sure if it's getting better or worse...

>>1925417
>>1925516

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaIvk1cSyG8

blueline guy, if you're lurking, thanks. I think I've made a break through and I feel like your paint over helped me out immensely

>>1925594
I think those titties be a little too perky. Mouth also seems to stretch a little too far to the right.

>>1925594
Your faces are the worst, grossest faces

>>1925618
Thanks

>>1925643
You handle planes and depth of the face to make it convincing, but
I dont know if I can jack off to it ya know

>>1925653
Showed it to some friends on skype, think they helped me fix the face somewhat.

>>1925657
Not the other guy how said it before, but that face is fundamentally creepy anon, the style, the expression and lighting all contribute, it's not terrible as in it looks awfully wrong, but i hope you didn't draw this expecting it to be sexy or people to fap to it.

>>1925657
or maybe i dont know what im talking about

>>1925664
I dunno, everyone is really vague on why it's creepy. I certainly haven't got any suggestions on how to fix it. That and it doesn't look creepy to me.

So I'm gonna roll with it.

>>1925667
I..don't know what I'm supposed to do with that.

>>1925089

Have any of your markers gone dry yet? I got mine around the same time you did and my N1 is completely done after just irregular use.

>>1925671
its not a very confusing diagram
the head shape is messed up and so is the neck

>>1925657

Either her eyes are recessed too far into her skull, or her mouth and nose are coming out too far from her skull.

>>1925667 is on the money.

Look at references

>>1925594
>>1925622
>>1925643
Anon's got a point. Work on that appeal, man.

>>1925671
It looks creepy because as >>1925677 says her eye sockets are shaded so that they look extremely deep. In addition, her cheekbones are very prominent due to the shading and her lips bulge a little too much. Also, >>1925667 pointed out how the face seems to have jaw/bone structure issues of being too protruding.

>>1925657
I think the neck is odd

>>1925679
>That word again

What is appeal?

>>1925677
>>1925681
Maybe I just have a bad habit around the eyes, attempted to fix.

>>1925682
I'll get to that after the face.

>>1925685
>what is appeal???????

http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=47164031

>>1925685
imo, I think it just means keeping things simple. Put more thought into where you put lines.

>>1925685
try reconstructing the face instead of re-rendering it

>>1925685
>What is appeal?

Attractiveness. The girl you've drawn isn't attractive because her face is whacked. Her mouth is huge, it juts out and her left eye is still pushed too far into her skull.

The critique was valid, but I felt like I lost something I was trying to get in the beginning.

I think I'll give it a rest an chalk it up to a lesson learned. Thanks all for your input.

>>1925720
Chapter TWX?

Shading on left boob our viewpoint-wise on left girl seems a little arbitrary.

>>1925720
Dude, I can barely read that. Not a good sign.

>>1925717
The upper body loses its movement because from the hips on up, the proprotions and and dimensions are screwed

does this have any resemblance to nami (league of legends) even?
also crits would be nice

>>1925737
cheeks/jaw is too narrow.
Nose is too chunky/broad in the ball/wings

Likeness is very poor and looks like sameface run of the mill western animu art.

It's not completely hopeless though, draw more. especially hands.

>>1925750
>cheeks/jaw is too narrow.
or in other words: the face type is wrong.
Nami is a lot more triangularlooking.

Not as oval/elongated vertically than this.

>>1925717
I like the creepy version , the face with the deep sockets and robust bone structure , because it was more appealing and entertaining to look at

>>1925717

It's hard for me to say this very well, since I'm not you and I can't speak for you.

I've looked at the critiques directed at you in this thread, and they seem like a disservice to you since most of them don't really offer anything helpful.

I know the remarks about the face are particularly irritating to me since I don't think anyone should be trying to tell you what's appealing and what's not unless what you're producing is fundamentally repulsive.

If you like something in particular, then I think you should try to find a better way to incorporate it before trying to just wholesale change or otherwise dismantle it because someone doesn't like it.

If you like something about it, chances are someone else'll like it too.
And so will more.

I guess I'm not offering breakthrough advice here or anything, but if you're feeling you lost something I'd blame it on making concessions to answer problems that were either not there or not really well explained.

...sec

>>1925717
You got to watch on that neck.
Maybe the placement of the eyes are off.
That smile is kinda weird. Though I haven't practice making that expression.
The nipples when the chest is facing that angle.
You need to put a bit of sagging in the breast.
You can add an indication of the ribs and shoulder blades at the right side.

Maybe a bit of refinement on the stomach and legs part.
Also, the hair could make additional movement.

>>1925757
I guess in particular, again, with the face, as noted by >>1925667, there is something structurally amiss.

Now, I'm sorry that I can't help but sound hypocritical here, but this is somewhere where you really haven't been helped. Yes, the face looked like it was jutting, but really? That head structure? Is the hair seriously piled up like that? To me it looks like the face itself is just too low. Most of her head is being dominated by her hair, and it just looks strange.

I'm sorry for being so wishy-washy; this is a wishy-washy piece of advice from a wishy-washy person. I guess I'm just trying to say that the advice is flawed because some of the people here aren't seeing the underlying problems. I saw another comment that just said to "fix the neck."
So the fuck what? What is so fucking wrong with the neck?
To me, it looks like it's too far to the left.
At the same time, I'd say it's only that way because the curvature of the neck isn't there. It comes straight down and doesn't follow her spine at all.

I guess all's I'm getting at is that I'm not really seeing anyone REALLY telling you anything all that helpful. I can't really speak(even though I already have) as if I'm different or special because I didn't say a word beforehand--I don't really care to do more than lurk here.

I just hate to see someone trying hard, and for the people around that person to offer shitty half-baked attempts at criticism.
...

>>1925760

If you're going to accept someone's critique, just make sure they've taken the time to analyze your piece and can tell you in detail what's wrong with your work. If they can't take the time to evaluate your work, why in the fuck would you let them tell you what's right or wrong with it?

Please have some integrity to your own tastes, and have the intellect to determine what's bullshit and what's not. By all means--let people tell you what's weird to them. Something like "the face is creepy" though is a matter of taste, and that kind of critique can fuck off. However, something you can see for yourself like "the neck is odd" or "the face is off" tells you can go ahead and inspect those areas. That being said, I don't see what's so hard about telling you the face is either too low/hair is too high, or that her neck doesn't connect to the spine properly.

Man this post was way too long. I'm sorry. I guess I mostly wrote this out of frustration.

>>1925737
I agree with the others, and also the ribcage is a little fucked up.

>>1925717
do you use line work ? because you should. I understand working with form and value for realism because it generally comes down to the same thing for any model, but for stylisation you should create a strong basis first.

seems like everyone in every thread are drawing women for some reason so i gave it a try, don't know what pose I should give her though.

>>1925757
>>1925760
>>1925761

Wow, thanks, you summed up what I was thinking. I didn't want to dismiss crit out of hand in case it could help me, but it just ended up ruining the drawing for me.

I think I might just fuck off from /ic/ for a while, figure out some things out on my own.

>>1925758
thanks as well.

>>1925771
A loose one, nothing as "tight" as yours. Maybe I should focus on that for now?

Hands on hips seem like a good stock pose.

>>1925163
Just learned what rule 63 is and /SS/ - I'm new here

>>1925168
> copic markers
Yea, I recently saw a deal for them at staples that was like $24 for the 72 pack, but it expired. I got mine off ebay. If you ebay them, your target price should be $2 each. I got mine for < $3 each, but I overpaid for ebay standards.

Water colors look hard to control and potentially messy. I like the markers because they are easy to clean up, organize, and they are discrete (not continuous). I can rapidly switch colors, and the drawing dries fast. The markers tend to match my personality more... If that makes any sense.

There is a bit of a learning curve, but I assume that is true for all media. I'm still pretty novice with them, and I'm always looking for tips and tricks.

>>1925672
>markers gone dry yet
Yeah, I just bought refills from dick blicks. They had the best price, and shipping is free over $50 - it was cheaper than in store and the selection is better online. I waited till a few of mine went dry so I could figure out which ones I actually use most. I refill T2, T4, T6, R000, and E00 all the time because I use them for blending.

>>1925773
yeah saw your line work, it's maybe a bit too loose. maybe you should use one or two strong lines for the body, but you absolutely make a line work for your face or else it'll be all mushed out and modified as you apply value and stuff. lines will carve the face in. you can then lower the opacity of the lines to your liking afterwards.

>>1925717
dont go too dark

>>1925785
You fixed the face! Yes!

>>1925773
It >looks< like the piece stopped being fun.

You can do whatever you feel; personally I think /ic/ seldom offers even a lick of advice that you couldn't have found on another forum or otherwise on your own.

I hope your own drive to improve and your own eye for design ultimately decides what you create.

I can't think of any specific names, because I've heard it so much. I also doubt I need to tell you this, but I will anyway because like I said, I'm partially writing out of my own frustration because I'm a little fockin' fyaggot.

Art should be as comprehensive as you make it for yourself. I won't say that it has to come naturally to you, but I will say that it should be enjoyable through-and-through.

If you're not having fun with art, why in the fuck would you keep making it?

It'd be painful to watch anyone unwillingly create art, and it'd be even more painful to watch someone unwillingly create something they hate. There's no love in it, and there's no fucking point in it.

If art's your passion, or even just something you do because you like it, don't let some dreck ruin it for you and turn it into a chore.

That applies to me too; fuck me, I'm sorry for writing this. I'm such a fucking angry little faggot right now and I can't help myself.

Good night.

>>1925785

>>1922670
Glad to see you chose my pic to start the thread.
I finished it now, ready for christmas. I hope he likes it.

>>1925750
>>1925751
i made edits based on your suggestions; does this look any better?

>>1925826

You fucked the angle of the features dude. I don't know who this nami thing is but the original looked better

>pateron cutting the porn

I fucking told you so good things don't last forever. I love it when I'm right.

>>1925843
>>/ic/thread/S1906317#p1906465

Not sure if this goes in draw thread or style thread, but I'll slap it here to be safe.

Just a wip, hit me with suggestions. Eye is bugging the fuck out of me, not really sure why.

>>1925826

what most people ignore is how much the rib cage and pelvis actually impact the silhouette, here's a quick fix showing you "normal' proportions and yours. see how long your body is ?

waist level is 2 heads down, while the rib cage should be around one and a half

proportions are really not hard to learn, even if it's stylisation, you should apply them and it will immediatly look better, even if it's not perfect. good luck anon.

>>1925848
too close to nose, after the side plane of the nose there usually is little space before the start of the tear duct.

>>1925848

>>1925717
Tried my hand at it. The neck was a bit too long and the fact that the movement is not well depicted make the left breast look unnatural. Also the face was crooked, just moved some elements so you can just figure it out yourself.
Keep it up anon

>>1925706
gave me a boner/10

>>1925717
Tried my hand at it. The neck was a bit too long and the fact that the movement is not well depicted make the left breast look unnatural. Also the face was crooked, just moved some elements so you can just figure it out yourself.
Keep it up anon

>>1925849
one on the right is still too long
and the right arm doesnt satisfy human skeletal proportions, unless she has a rare genetic birth defect

>>1925826
>>1925849

How is it ?
It's supposed to be a xmas card for my mom's confectionery.
I think it's looking boring, is it just me ?
Maybe it's boring due to the lack of light, i just layed flat colors.

>>1925903
>>1925897
Thanks, I totally see it now.

>>1925720

your stuff is always so jagged and aliased, what monitor do you use?

>>1926021
its a good start, the colors are to muddled though

Critique would be much appreciated

allmost done..

>>1926297

kind of cool and gives off a moebius vibe but why does it look like a fuzzy lime green pickle

>>1923686
facial perspective is a tad off.

The shoes are definitely wrong, but I can't pinpoint exactly why or how.
Any concrit would be appreciated!

>>1926421
You're definitely a better artist than me so it puzzles me why I can figure this out with one glance.

>>1926297

This is a screenshot from Nintendo's new cyberpunk bowling game. The objective is to knock ganondorf off his pickle by throwing colored balls at him.

>>1926368
How the fuck did you know that?

>>1926372
Everyone and their gran rides fuzzy lime green pickles in the future

>>1923819
>>1923825
Try to construct the hair a little bit more logically. If one of the locks ends then under that it's not going to continue with the same volume (or more). Anime is often a bad example. Try to get the general form in first, then values, then the texture(individual strands).
Oh, and one more thing. Do this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDNDOKnArk

>>1924363
>filename says it all
Back to work, mikufag.

>>1924431
is it really that hard to foreshorten a straight object? Redo the sword, now
>im on phone, can't redline

>>1924599
Needs more saturation

>>1924606
>>1924733
>Just grab that grill and....
Ahhh i always forget that i'm on 4chan

Ah, shit you're right! The geta confused me. Many thanks!

I call this piece "heh, nothing personal kid"

>>1926421
Try making her left foot face a slightly different angle.

>>1926421
>>1926426
beginner here
i think women come off as sluts with their legs open like that :l

>>1926485
wat? >,<

>>1926421
Even with its flaws, it's 20 times better than the original character design.

>>1926574
you should add a brony patch to his left pocket. He already has a fedora and neckbeard stubble so why not got he full 9 yards?

>>1926595
Jesus.
You guys are cancer. Calling a chick who tends slightly to something sexual is automatically a slut.

>>1926623
Do you know where you are? Don't get me wrong, I agree with you, but seriously?

>>1926421
If her feet and knees are parallel, her legs should be pressed/almost pressed together. If not they should be facing away from each other at an angle.

>>1926623
>slightly

I agree with your statement, but I always saw spread legs specifically as "strong" sexual body language, so my opinion is usually similar to >>1926595

/ic/ stands for I'm cancer

>>1924855
>>1924856

Thanks, here's the final piece

>>1926595
Maybe she's taking a leak?

>>1926421
i r-recognize lenfried.

How should I tone/shade it? I have no idea :( Done from imagination, it's supposed to look like she is seen through a peephole. I have to do it for school. (I may redo the lineart and hands, maybe some more fixes, but shading is te hardest part for me)

I can't figure out how to draw folded & foreshortened thighs. It looks like a deformed tumor or something.

>>1926694
The bottom part makes it confusing. Is it fabric? Otherwise looks okay.

trying to stylize my studies.

>>1926752
sorry, forgot noise and c.a.

>>1926528
wat

I think I'm getting the hang of this

>>1926754

please don't

>>1926778
simplify those nipples by removing the dimples, and give them a more pleasant blush.

>>1926779
if you pay me i won't.

>>1926785
Like this?
Although I found the dimples sort of appealing I understand why they might not fit the "style".
Thanks anon.

>>1926799
That looks great man. Are you the guy who drew the girl with the red top?

>>1926805
I don't recall drawing something like that, so probably not

>>1926808
Do you do much blending for that style? The brush strokes are nice and prominent but the whole thing blends well.

>>1926822
Kind of. Starting with greyscale helped me a lot.

First time "painting" on the computer after a long time of only painting with acrylic/oil and with reference. How bad is it ?

>>1926595
Take comfort in knowing that guys jerk off to this rather than your FB profile picture.
Or, do they.

>>1926863
Its comforting to me, in its own way

>>1926863
I think it's pretty good, although the colors are blurry and not very defined. But I really like most of the skin tone!

>>1926754
>>1926754
Idk, anon. Have a shitty paintover

>>1926897
Is there a point in unstylizing my study that i worked hard to stylize on purpose. I usually try to copy exactly and that was out of comfort zone for me and you go and undo it. Fuck /ic/.

used ball jointed doll as reference

>>1926908
> muh style
pretty much. Right?

>>1926897

So what was the point of this? Was it for your benefit, the other guy's benefit? Where the fuck is your criticism?

>>1926928
The light source seemed off, the left side of the head was a bit too large, and some the the eyes were too far into the skull. I get that he was trying to go for a certain style, but there were a lot of construction issues. Not saying my paint over is fuckin awesome. I wanted to see if I could solve the issues myself. :/ fair?

niggas

>>1926695
Looks like part of her cloak.

I like it

>>1926960
Please read the sticky

>>1926989
beginner detected

>>1926991
Faggot detected

>>1926999
buttmad detected

>>1926778
head is humongous

>>1926863
tits sagging like sleeve of wizard

>>1926934

Yea haha. Be more confident with your crit next time if you really think something is wrong, at least say it.

>>1926924
that's what this thread is about, isn't it? maybe you're lost?

>>1927004
>implying it's an adult

>>1926863
Updating

>>1927074
Nigga don't try to bluff his way out of this
I know damn well he just drew the head first and then decided he doesn't need to resize the canvas for the rest of the body lol
When making a study, better watch out for the canvas proportions of the reference too.

>>1927117
Tits are still a bit too low.
Don't shade with black, it's particularly bad on the neck. You're on the right track with the orange hue on the cleavage.
You can also lighten the far part of the face and check the eye size. Far eye is way smaller.

Got a linocutting set for Christmas, had to try it out right away

>>1926922
looks cute, too saturated for my tastes, but cute

>>1927004
>>1927142
That was intentional though. I personally like the size it is.

Gonna put a stop here before I waste too much time polishing details again. Thanks again for the help

>>1927117
paint in greyscale for a while
learn about the structure of the head, its planes and also values
before going to color

>>1927211
Please take this anon's worded advice, but disregard his paintover of your image. I personally like the dreamy, elegant feeling of your painting more. Painting is grayscale is also a really good exercise but keep up your colour studies and painting directly in colour.

>>1927215
Stop being dumb. You're saying that only because it's in greyscale. I think he improved it in all ways.

>>1927220
Not him and technically yes but he changed pretty much everything from the expression to every feeling that the face convey, they don't even look like the same race.
He should take the advice but not try to change his aesthetics or taste, i like his a lot better in that regard.

>>1926989
dude, no.
Stop.

>>1926960
remember that the thumb is facing the ribcage, when its in front of your face.
Otherwise it looks great with the feeling of the legs and such.
Continue on.

>>1927271
Why are you trying to deprive that Anon from an indispensable source of enlightenment and knowledge that the same master draftsmen have used for decades?

>>1927220
He improved it but the original has a dreamy pretty quality that is irreplaceable. And while it's slightly better, it feels sterile and bland and just, stripped of appeal imo.

>>1926922
kawaii nigga

My first drawing.

>>1927117
>>1927142
>>1927211
>>1927215
>>1927256

Thank you for every advice.
I think i'm going to learn a lot from the advice everyone is giving. I personally liked the paintover, imo it was really helpful to better understand what the anon was trying to explain.
I also agree that it changed a lot of the original picture , but since we are different people there is no way for him to know what exactly i was trying to achieve with the original image.
I'm going to follow your advice, and try to finish this image using grayscale and with some reference.(So that i may really comprehend the planes of the head and values of a real head)

>>1927274
Because "read the sticky" is the point of no return, advice.
He knows what he is doing, but [you] called him a 'phoney'.

New Thread:

>>1927389
>>1927389
>>1927389

crit?

trying out a new style of sketching. input would be appreciated.