/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

whoa

>>1745668
nice

flat, boring, and a subject that's been regurgitated time and time again.

Boring lol. There is so much to see in this. I was transfixed

>>1745843
why are you samefagging?

my samefagometer just went nuclear

Because I'm after a half decent critique. How about this one, flat and boring as well?

>Because I'm after a half decent critique.
and i gave you one. so instead of actually taking criticisms you bump your own topic by acting like someone else and say that your own work is great? right...

I copied a comment I received on this piece from another site, but yes a blatant bump. Thanks for your lengthy 12 word critique, hard hitting stuff. Will definitely take on board.

>>1745852
>I received on this piece from another site
then stay on that other site. if you have an audience for your oh-so-edgy/POLITICIANS ARE PUPPETS then by all means, post there.

>Thanks for your lengthy 12 word critique, hard hitting stuff.
you made this topic fishing for compliments. it must suck to be such a sensitive baby, but if you expect people to actually like this shit (besides your mother), you're in for a world of hurt.

>but yes a blatant bump
a blatant bump would be posting the word "bump." so here, let me fix this for you:
>but yes blatant samefagging

Ouch, after the grueling 12 word critique, i'm now being served up insults. Fishing for compliments? Again, i'm after a half decent critique, not one sentence. Care to elaborate on your fascinating initial thoughts Robert Hughes?

>>1745874
it only took one sentence to express my opinion. that goes to show how terrible the piece is. i'm not going to sugarcoat my opinion or blow smoke up your ass, nor should anyone else.

The anatomy is pretty week, especially the white chick. Your skin tones are all really local and boring. The drapery folds don't make sense. The narrative is a mix of trite and confusing. A puppet president with strings seems like an edgy 14 year old's concept about muh illuminati after he read 1984. Then there's a random white lady, a pile of money, and a man holding a fig newton. I get that this is a reference to les demoiselles de avignon by Picasso, but what is the significance of the reference? And in Picasso's painting, the abstraction of the figure is extreme enough to look intentional, here it just looks wonky.

Tl;dr

I'll always remember that sentence, astounding critique. Just sublime. I would love to return the favor, got any artwork to share?

>>1745874
People here consider "it's shit" or "I like it" to be critiques around here. Don't let it rustle your jimmies.

>>1745887
>I'll always remember that sentence
if you actually want to ever sell any of your work, then good. glad i could help.

This was done with oils? Why does it look like cheap acrylic?

Keep it coming, how about this one. Harsher the better. Not that it matters at all, but I have sold many pieces.

yawn.

Yawn. Right, fantastic. Okay, now how about this one.

>>1745923
calm down, bro. why are you so desperate for acceptance?

every few months this kid reposts this cliche garbage. It looks like watery acrylics an middle schooler would do. No aesthetic focal point or anything, and shallow social commentaries.

>>1745921
I imagined your hands on your hips, leaning forward, brows furrowed and raised. Your head cocked to the side and your eyes glaring as you condemn with a clear and audible "yawn." tumbling out your curled maw. Your priceless opinion, your crystalline view, poured over the unworthy.

>>1745927
that sounds more interesting than any of this generic and completely forgettable trash you've been posting.

but, judging from the work you've posted, it will have drab, basic colors, you'll fuck my anatomy up, and throw in a bunch of asinine and tired motifs.

1 solitary critique so far.

>>1745929
He and I are not the same.
I just found that backhanded comment to be a trifle on the side of comical.

Can we get a critique anytime today, anyone?

i think your work is talented, interesting, and awesome. I'd love to have your work hanging on my walls. i'd like to see the art of all the people calling it boring! Maybe you could make things more 3d with more color n' layers! Sweet stuff and so many haters on this site

>>1745972
Oh brother... Give it a rest.

Nobody is critiquing your work because its fucking awful please stop posting dude.

Fucking awful, interesting. I appreciate your feedback, but can you simplify it?

>>1745668
Looks like you're going for something like modern cubism.
I recommend stronger, clearer shapes, and bolder colors. The white spaces sort of make your work seem incomplete, and some of your marks look smudgy.

Also, your symbol drawing eyes, and not in a way that complements your style. Try removing them altogether, and represent the space with the shadow of the brow.

Aside from that, do some studies of cloth. Look at how folds reflect light and cast shadows.

>>1746022
This one is actually pretty nice. Though I don't have much to say about it.

>>1745935
The pyramid looks kinda wonky, gotta line the angles up better. A little more value doesn't help either, but not too much cause I like that it reminds me of ashes. It's the only piece I really like but your stuff is interesting IMO, keep at it

>>1745848
>>1745923
these are your best

do more like these and forget about the edgy socialist commentaries littered with illuminati symbolism and whatnot

>>1745848
>>1745923
>>1745944
yes
>>1745668
>>1745935
no
>>1746022
maybe

>>1745935
That loops absolutely nothing like the world trade center, at least try to paint the damn thing correctly.

>>1745935
>>1745668
>take something picasso did
>add edgy illuminati imagery
>???
>prophet

>>1745862
Politicians ARE puppets you flippin idiot, at least the major ones. I bet you're the type of idiot that laughed when you heard that the govmint was spying on everyone and dismissed it as crazy conspiracy ramblings. Well look at us now. FFS, sheeps these days. Pic related, it's you

>>1746594
the point wasn't whether or not you believed in it, it's the fact that same imagery has been recreated hundreds of time. you're not saying anything new or controversial, you're just parroting.

this art sucks. not innovative or worth anything

go back to school

Except I've sold multiple paintings for thousands of dollars, not to mention commissioned pieces. "This art sucks" Awe struck, seriously how did you reach this conclusion?

>>1747801
I sold about 25 pieces of my little pony artworks at $30 an hour of work, though not thousands, its easy to sell gimmicky stuff to people who like gimmicky things.
Guess /ic/ dont like gimmick

>>1746594
It's a very cliche image, get over it.

>>1747801
How many thousands? To whom? Where? Will you post these masterpieces?

>>1747801
then why are you wasting your time trying to convince people your art is good and posting sarcastic, snarky remarks because you didn't get the response you wanted? shouldn't you be throwing money down the drain by buying oils and not using them correctly?

>>1747830
Dude he's sold thousands of work for millions of dollars, he just desperately needs the approval of neckbeards on 4chan. Sounds legit.

Yep, i'm lying. Obviously i've never sold a painting in my life. Should I provide tax invoices too?

>>1748444
I wouldn't buy that for a doller.

your art does suck. you could be selling it for a billion and it would still suck. your concepts are cliche and uninteresting and your execution is amateur. maybe other people who don't know any better will be impressed, like the typical redditor, but you are definitely no artist's artist

>>1748444
lol. why are you trying so hard to impress us?

>>1745935
erlumenarti

>>1748444
2edgy4me

>>1745935

Too Guernicaesque but without the emotional power and your painting has terrible composition. Also 9/11 stuff is way overdone.

>>1745668
>>1745848

Looks like a mix of Chagall and Leger, bad colors and no sense of composition you just have a bunch of stuff everywhere.

2/10 would not buy

Regardless of you're skill level you're extremely arrogant and I'm afraid you lack the skill to back that up. You'll probably bury that in a mountain of "muh style" and "yeah well all the greats were heavily criticized too!" but I'm afraid you aren't one of them.
Your work is catastrophically derivative in any sense of the word. Conceptually, you play on the same edgy "GOVERNMENT IS PUPPETS SECRET SOCIETIES CONTROL EVERYTHING MONEY IS EVIL CAPITALISM IS EVIL" bullshit that every stoner teenager thinks is cool for 2 years. I don't entirely disagree with the ideology/many people don't, but over the age of 18 people realize that images of it are overdone, cliche, trite, and frankly they display a sense of naivete and immaturity. Yes money is evil, yes capitalism spawns inequality and destitution within some ranks, its a thing that most people know and acknowledge and having some kid shove it in their face with his paintings just garners a "yeah dude thats real cool" from them.

Stylistically, its pretty much picasso but without most of the stuff that made picasso interesting. The paintings look washed out and dull and flat. It looks like you used white to define values too much and it got washed into all the other colors making them look pale and weak. There is almost no contrast, nothing to catch the eye and make it travel around or become transfixed in any part of the works.
>>1746022
is the only one that's sort of okay. interesting forms and plays of light with good definition of value, though still tons of room for improvement in terms of making thigns like brushstroke and value shifts more interesting and finessed.

>>1748444
also who the FUCK bought that for almost $1000??? That literally looks like a high schooler's first value study with oils.
what the fuck

>>1748757
your skill level* didn't proofread smh

>>1748757
I say his painting is actually on par with picasso, both are shit.

>>1748444
god i could understand if that was a decent size maybe, but 1000 kangaroo bucks for a meh 15 x 12.

also the eyes are completely different sizes and that bugs the fuck out of me.

>>1748764
Pleb detected, you've probably never actually seen a Picasso

>>1748757
I concur with this guy

>>1745668
Sorry anon, but this looks like a painting a 16 year old produces for their final year art project in highschool - er, good job if that's what this is. The subject is cliche too. You've got to give your audience more credit.

>>1748854
retarded detected, I seen some of his works it's nothing worth fussing about.

You're right guys, I should give it up. It's pointless to continue, especially when they are selling.

>>1748955
Well that's nice and all but you shouldn't think of your art as something good because of that
People will buy actual shit if they're bored and have money

>>1748955
you're really insecure aren't you?

Not once have I said that they are good, I simply stated that they are selling. All I was after were some decent critiques, and I greatly appreciate the very few that have bothered to write more than one sentence. I value it tremendously and will absolutely take it on board moving forward.

>>1748955
Don't give up, just work on improving. The fact that they are selling is toxic, because it perpetuates the idea that you can't improve any further and your work will just/is just stagnating.

Ugh I can't believe I'm even playing into your insecurity bullshit, just buck up, take a step back from thinking you're any good, and put the work into it until you actually are really good

>>1748955
You talk like a fucking teenage girl and it's really fucking annoying.

>>1745668
Cringe-worthily bad.
Lrn2color you talentless hack.

>Not once have I said that they are good
Yet you act like a passive aggressive bitch when people tell you the truth and that they're shit.

Happy to let this die now, but by all means bump it again with another insult. :)

>>1749499
I dunno who's worse, you or chauncy

>>1745668
>>1745935
firstly ... you're not going to be taken very seriously as an artist (or person) if you use any more illerminerty symbolism

more importantly try not to make the symbolism in your artwork so directly obvious, its like im being force fed what you're trying to say through a shallow illustrated instruction manual... instead leave more space for interpretation and rather than trying to make an obviously concise statement, consider hinting at things that makes the viewer question something about their understanding of or feelings towards something

>>1749555
is the image you posted supposed to do that?

>>1749569
definitely more than any of your artworks
(the artwork I posted isnt mine by the way)

>>1748764

painting skill aside heres the key difference:

Picasso made artwork that was radically different to the rest of the art world at the time: something thats easier said than done

OP is trying to imitate styles have already been established 100 years agom, only to express ideas that are already done to death by high school art students and transcended gentlemen everywhere

>>1749573
That's a mighty strange assumption to be making right there, considering I'm not op, and fully agree that he's full of himself.

Absolutely concur, i'm obsessed with the guy. I'm just extremely disillusioned with where art is going at the moment (see: The Mona Lisa Curse), and feel as though it should go back to basics in order for it to be dramatically reinvented once again. I realize my ideas are very basic, and have been produced endlessly. Saying i've got a hell of a long way to go is an understatement, but I really do just enjoy having a crack at oil painting. Selling is just an added bonus, obviously i'd prefer to execute better ideas, and develop a unique style etc. hopefully this can occur in time.

>>1749591
you actually think the symbolism in that artwork is more directly obvious and more force feeding than OPs screaming faces, rows of office blocks, chess piece people, and puppet strings?

Do you see a concise statement in the artwork I posted? If so, what?

The imagery in the artwork I posted makes me feel uncomfortable, its unclear whether the man is intruding or escaping making me curious about the situation. Despite the windows(?) being broken the black void outside creates claustrophobic feeling. What is the outside space? Why does the figure going through broken glass look so collected? The figure is in a state of vulnerability (no clothes, awkward position, broken glass around him) yet I still feel like the figure on the right is more of a victim... etc etc

The artwork feels like it has more depth to it and more of a lasting effect on me.

OPs artwork however, any 14 year old can fully understand exactly what OP is bluntly and unconvincingly trying to say about 5 seconds

>>1749598
that attitude is exactly the right one to have, and its great that you're researching about art history - dont stop! I suggest you spend more time thinking and planning your artworks before investing more time painting similar ones.

>>1749602
I think you need to re-read what I said, because I'm questioning your reading comprehension something fierce.

>>1749607
oh I misunderstood you, I thought you were just mentioning that you we'rent OP to add more force to what you were saying... regardless I feel like I made my point that the image I posted was
>supposed to do that

I guess I don't understand revisiting cubism. It's sort of irrelevant now. Cubism was a reaction to modernism and dynamism, trying to comprehend reality and dimensionality alongside the invention of the moving picture. It's sort of like new "punk" bands. Punk was something that happened and died, it was a reaction to everything leading up to it starting from WW2. New bands can mimic it nicely, but it's really just a watered down version of what it actually meant.

>>1745972
your clearly samefagging..

the word choice and sentence structure is the same

>>1745923
why is there so few pigment in your color.

load your brush up more

>>1752670
I don't understand the point of praising your own work; especially when it is obvious like that; just reading it makes me cringe

That definitely wasn't me, I only did that once at the start of the thread.

>>1754205
SUCH SOCIAL COMMENTARY :00000 U R A VISIONARY LOL

Such an amazing critique. :0 lol U R A JACKASS

This is some r/delusionalartists shit.

Wowowow this stuff is amazing!

>>1754205
see
>>1749555
>try not to make the symbolism in your artwork so directly obvious, its like im being force fed what you're trying to say through a shallow illustrated instruction manual

>>1754246
>op thinking people speak like that here

It's not me posting those lame compliments. Praising me in one sentence is equally as annoying as critiquing me in one sentence.

>delusional artist with mental capacity of a baby selling art with "YOU DON"T KNOW THE TRUTH" trite tinfoil shit sells well
>mother who's artist for many years sells like shit

That's it, I will post her works on ebay to get shekels.

Am I supposed to feel guilty about selling now?

>>1754287
no, just dont get sassy when people on /ic/ explain why its bad

I apologize profusely for being overly sassy.

>>1754353
Why do you keep posting your artwork? We already said it is unoriginal and bad. Of course it sells, the paintings are shallow, in turn they attract the shallow people. People like to idolize hollywood movie actors, rappers, they like to complain about politics, because they sure well know the "truth"(It's certainly some intergalactic order or reptiles), and who else is in charge of their "freedom" and their greedy want of welfare but politicians?

Stop embarrassing yourself.

So my artwork is bad, shallow, unoriginal etc., and i'm embarrassing myself. On the flip side, my business model is solid, but I exclusively sell to shallow people. How can I turn it all around? Enlighten me.

>>1754385
You don't paint bad, your topic are the ones that are bad. You make money out of it and that's great, if you enjoy it that's even better, but don't come here expecting praise, subsequently after getting some negative responses stubbornly defend your stuff. If you are fine with your art why listen to us, why try to prove you are good, it just makes you seem diffident, not confidant about your art.

My advice to get your topics better is to start reading classics, or any way to get yourself more cultured to that matter.

>>1754385
If I were you, I would just keep doing what you do. Do some personal work on the side to improve.

>>1745668


wow


how original.
get cancer & die of aids faggot.

>>1754385
Everything out of your mouth is incredibly smug, you're pretty much begging the board to hate you, and you don't even respond to the few genuine critiques. Get a little humility, drop the sarcasm, and try again.

Holy shit this thread

Wow I wasn't expecting this thread to keep going. Good to know op is really this insecure about himself.

Look what I just came across
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=549426

Even the sweet old ladies on WetCanvas think OP is delusional

>>1754973
oh holy shit son http://www.ebay.com/itm/DICKENS-ORIGINAL-2013-ART-THE-OIL-PAINTING-CANVAS-48-x-36-CANVAS-DALI-PICASSO-/261295944701?pt=AU_Paintings&hash=item3cd673b3fd

Oh god my balls ache from the laughter.

>>1754977
The funniest part is that thread was created 4 years ago

>>1754981
scratch that. 5 years ago

the poor guy's probably coughed up $10,000 in listing fees since then

>>1754983
no wonder he's so defensive about the whole thing. I'd be pissed if my stupidity cost me a ton of money too.

>>1754394
His painting is horrible too.
Horrible, dull colors and HORRIBLE composition.

I've seen better 'art' in elementary schools.

Worst pro painter I've ever seen, honestly.

>>1748444

>G'day Drew

my sides

oh god this thread. I was having a bad day, thanks for cheering me up.

Another bump, wow. It's like $0.50 a month to list a painting at that price. That WetCanvas thread was about the aforementioned 'Inglorious' 9/11 piece I completed in 2009, and sold in the same year which is why it's no longer listed in my store. All I have left are the paintings i've completed over the past year.

I now understand why you guys are so harsh.

>>1755049
But it is still listed in your store
http://stores.ebay.com/krazydiscounts/

Are you dense? The OP painting was completed like two weeks ago. That 2009 thread was about my piece 'Inglorious' which was completed and sold in the same year. The one with the twin towers.

>>1755064
go home OP

>>1755057
>krazydiscounts
>$10,000

>>1755049
My 11-year-old nice could paint better than that.
You are so fucking bad it hurts. You think some schmucks buying your garbage is something to be proud of? That's like being proud of scamming an 80-year-old women by claiming you are her grandson.