/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4211239
>>4214266
Because your work is extremely good so they can't shit on you, and it's also not a cute girl or anime tiddies so they can't drool over it.
I've seen this happen many times, not even just on draw thread. If someone says "pyw" and the guy actually posts the work and it's great suddenly everyone goes quiet and the post is buried. On the other hand if it's shit there will be a million (You)s.

People are just not interested in good stuff, they're interested in shitting the on the bad stuff AND the good stuff to make themselves feel better about themselves. Just look at the first reply you got claiming it's not particularly impressive, even though it certainly is very high quality and probably just as impressive as you may think it is.
It's the sad reality of this place and why you don't see many pros posting work here even though there's quite a few pros who actually browse the site.

>can't freehand a perfect circle
>ngmi

>>4059729
Don't listen to this faggot >>4059792

Talent is very real, and you can't develop it in the same way you can't develop IQ. If a child has 70 IQ you can't simply force them to learn how to read by the age of 3 no matter what you do to "induce" their intelligence. It doesn't work like that. Either you have it or you don't.

Also, people usually say that talent only helps you to learn faster but that's bullshit as well. From what I can tell from years of paying attention to this shit is that talent manifests itself in two ways: It defines how fast you can learn a particular subject AND it defines what your skill ceiling in that subject is going to be. If you're not at all talented, that is, if you don't have the brain structure for this craft from birth, not only will you take ages to learn how to draw, but you will also plateau at a fairly low skill level despite any effort you may put into it. The issue is that you can't really know the level of someone's talent in something unless they've done it for a significant amount of time, which can make it quite frustrating for someone who doesn't have it to only figure that out after 4 years of doing it.

The whole "talent isn't real" bullshit comes from snake oil art teachers who are more concerned about selling you their trash programs than what's actually true. Anyone who has experience looking at people developing this skill through a decent period of time will easily be able to tell how much real talent actually is. I personally know at least 3 people that have been hardcore practicing every day for 10+ years and haven't gotten anywhere. It's also not the "you're practicing wrong" bullshit because they've tried multiple things. Meanwhile I know people that have been barely practicing for ~2 years and who have developed far beyond what their previously-mentioned peers ever could.

You don't need to like reality for it to be how it is. Talent is real and anyone who tells you otherwise is bullshitting you.

>>3209187
Well, let me try:
"It seems that Japanese culture perceives youth, sometimes while even reaching well into the realms of legal age, as something normal and desirable.

With that said, however, I do agree that one might, in fact, desire a healthy and young partner who also happens to have a sharp mind.

By analyzing the anime styling of the eyes in particular, I personally conclude that the choices made by the authors, in regards to the creation of the aforementioned style, display a meaning that can be properly described as follows: 'I, the Author, am able to utilize of technical competence and skill to create something that can be perceived as interesting, while also valuing within my creation characteristics inherent from youth, my dear young lady.' (please note that the author might replace 'my dear young lady' for the Japanese language equivalent)

The United States of America, on the other hand, tends to value an over protection of the young, while also prioritizing a sentimental discourse over a logical one. That is, cognitive biases inherited from such sentimentality tend to be favored instead of a properly developed logical process of reasoning.
Regardless, we, the people who tend to favor eastern over western media, can many times value art which has the presence of an unusually developed subject, as seen with ladies' aesthetics in general, as something desirable.
While I understand that such characteristics preferred in said art are not normally attainable within the context of the real world (as evidenced by the need to commonly utilize of Photoshop techniques in pictures of magazine models), the Japanese people generally don't seem perceive this preference as inherently malicious. Neither do they seem to display any sort of disregard for the act of altering one's appearance by artificial means.

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>>3021652
Drawing is a practical skill completely reliant on reflex and conditioning of the brain due to the high complexity of the task. Every time you draw, your brain is trying to extrude various amounts of data from an image you are looking at, or from the reconstruction your brain made of an image/collection of images you saw in the past, while at the same time examining various possibilities of line placement, colors, shapes, values, etc. and trying to decide which is going to be the best way to execute what it saw/imagined in the split-second before. Your brain does this not once, nor a few times, but hundreds of thousands if not millions of times every minute you spend drawing. It quickly becomes obvious that drawing is far too complex for you to be able to fully do it consciously. Besides a few decisions we consciously make regarding how we want to guide our working brain, the process of drawing itself is essentially automatic.

Because of that, drawing is a lot less like a discipline (e.g. maths and physics) and a lot more like a sport. When you're playing football for example, you don't have time to consciously think about and calculate all the physical processes happening when the ball comes your way. A lot of times you don't even have time to think about what your strategy's going to be after it reaches your feet. So your brain uses all the insane amounts of data you gathered from practicing over time and does all the calculations and decisions for you without you even noticing it.

So what you need to do consciously, or "smartly", is to maximize the amount of accurate data you accumulate from practicing. If you correctly practice drawing 100 frogs in 100 different poses, you'll make your brain's job a lot easier when drawing frogs later. Not only that, it'll also have a lot more data on how to deal with different forms in 3D space, making your life easier for when you practice drawing other things besides frogs as well.

tl,dr: practice or kys.