/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3751135
have you tried gridding?

yaver hearnta no dang rulers in your holler?

>>3724929
>not an argument
your original statement that I responded to wasn't really an argument. /ic/ looks like a shithole when people like muah post their art. You'd have to qualify what "shithole" means to you. Because I'm pretty sure there's probably a literal shithole in the catalog right meow. Like between the naziposter, the porn threads, the loli threads, the incel threads, and everything else, the fact that you think acrylic paintings of people making funny faces is what makes it a shithole kind of just implies that you're a degenerate.
>god what a fucking npc.
I like how all of you teens just ALL start using NPC as your go-to dehumanization label at the same time. You're literally programmable.
> If you can't tell crits from "harassment",
No it's pretty easy to tell the difference.
>and can't handle the latter
I handle it better than most. There's a reason people with public profiles don't post here. They get nagged at by hysterical loser kids that unironically still say NPC, about nothing in particular, until they leave
> you have no business being here.
you're in my thread anon.
>That is what's great about this place,
that cowards like you can project your feelings at strangers anonymously to give yourself an ego boost?
>get off your fucking high horse,
lol it's funny because it's you
>you are one of the shittiest people in here
and you're wrestling with me
>and you ar opposed to the only place on the internet where you get honest harsh crits of the very best kind.
For every "honest harsh crit" I get I get 1 or 2 buttblasted virgins with an agenda that are only interested in "cockfighting." How new are you?
>people like you are the cancer.
Whatever you gotta protect at strangers m80.
>not an argument. also, rockwell.
What you're the Rockwell kid? I'm better than you. I could (and did) obsessively copy Rockwells when I was like 13. You're desperately /beg/. Your understanding of artistic production ends at drawing. Make a painting homo.

>>3718878
imagine taking advice from random anons with nothing to show for themselves that spend all of their time anonymously swearing to themselves that they'd be good at art if they ever tried. Honesty why would you take advice from anyone here?

Also how is that bad advice? If you're burned out with drawing, maybe try advancing out of /beg/ into new and challenging things? Granted (you) personally are not going to make it, or anything, and you'll be doing your family a flavor when you kill yourself.

>>3686670
imagine being THIS upset

sucks to suck dingus. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gO7uemm6Yo

I like how this /lit/ thread is actually like positive and helpful and bumping along for days. Only one ngmi in the whole thread! Good job /ic/!

>>3601644
it all helps. It's all part of knowing how to art. If you don't have experience doing graphite transfers or tracing you are deficient. If you don't have experience doing grids you are deficient.

Not saying you need to build a series around it but IT ALL helps for "developing skill." Limiting your experience and self-censoring is always bad.

>>3592325
that's where you're fucking up

>>3592140
>Traced from where? They didn't have photos to trace from. So they either had to trace from someone else's drawings or draw from life.
They'd normally do a whole bunch of thumbnails and small sketches first to get what they were looking for then use grids on the blow up to canvas.

The real point is that there are WAY too many people on /ic/ that lose their shit about people that utilize grids, when the reality is that using grids to get exact proportions on large pieces is PART of artistic production. It's one thing to tsk tsk people that use them as a crutch, but the problem is that so many people here straight up say you should NEVER use grids. Which is just self-defeating, bad advice.

You should understand le fundamentals, and then the next step in art education is kind of about then realizing that they're kind of just a goof. If your goal is to get exact proportions and framing as you envision it, whatever means you use justifies the end result.

It's like, what is your goal when you're producing a piece? Is it to circlejerk about how good you can freehand draw or are you trying to let the piece speak for itself?

I always point out artists like Mondrian (who rigidly measured out lines and boxes and is a great think piece on the whole "my kid could make that" meme, in which the response is "well they should have") and Warhol (who just hired weirdos to make prints of pictures). Or even people like Banksy who uses stencils etc etc.

It's about what the goal is. What the point of what you're doing is. If you're good enough at drawing accurate proportions and framing, people will think you're tracing or gridding anyway.