/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

ngmi

>>7143378
>ngmi

Let's start studying this silly little dude

Here is view from above, seems less complicated that way

>>7143376
I’ve got some crabs on my desk but I haven’t drawn them yet

>>7143430
They look nice

>>7143362
>>7143372
>>7143393
All these words could be bypassed if you just pyw

>>7143341
>I want to (eventually) sell my art as NFTs in one or more marketplace, in a blockchain.
cool, go for it.
>Is this wrong in your view for any reason? If yes, why?
Not wrong, artists should do whatever they need to get that bag.
The problem with NFT is that the market is fucking dead. And the examples of successful NFTs have more to do with the nexus of crypto (cult)ure, fashion, memes, and branding than the art itself. It reminds me of the fine art world where influencers push the nebulous next big thing.
Examples of successful NFTs include Pudgy Penguins, that monkey shit, and Miladys (before the co-founder was associated with a suicide cult and the price plummeted). If you look at the art itself ... well that's all subjective.
tldr market's dead, a lot of it is mired in bullshit, but hey put some up and see what happens.

>>7143341
>Is this wrong in your view for any reason? If yes, why?
no, not at all.
the previous nft buzz was all built on hype and speculation. even during that time i have seen artists who i followed before nfts existed sell their art as nfts and continue to do so.
it is just a mechanism for sale and transfer of ownership and authentication.
as a plus you might get secondary sale income.
you can find artists who do it and the market accepts it. but you will find many voices online who are against it but who cares?

No one buy NFTs for their artistic value, but by the promise that it will be worth 10000x more in a future, can you promise that to your buyers or at least scam them into thinking you can?

>>7143477
>>7143693
>>7145171
these words too

>>7143518
It's not about simply removing or adding stuff, but it's about the ability to know there is something wrong with the image in the first place, as the story mention that those AI bros doesn't even aware about anomalies in their generated image and their inability to do something about it in the professional level.

>>7143494
Skill issue. Learning computers takes time and intelligence.

>>7143768
Coding is an order of magnitude easier to learn than drawing.
t. Kernel developer

>>7143505
When will it get better?
It's been doing this same shit since 1998 the only thing that's changed is the database size and the speed at which it produces useless shit. But it's still producing useless shit.

AI didn't get good, autists got good at tagging images in boorus.

Just get the AI for Dummies book, read it and get with the program. Your stubbornness is holding you back.

>>>/g/
stupid baiting retard

>>7143392
Whine to the jannies. Pathetic.

>>7143398
Did it or did it not get deleted yesterday? You fucking underaged ESL moron lmao. Take a fucking hint

>>7143405
No. You are the big silly!

Damn, you just ask something here

>>7143281
I think I see it now, thank you.

Shouldn't his feet have more bounced light on them?

>>7143262
Me, I am the source

>>7143262
It's right over here.

>>7143292
The planes of the feet we see are pointing up, seeing how the lightsource is above the bouncelight is coming from below. There would be a lot of bouncelight in at bottom of his feet since they are pointing down

>>7143262
yeah that's fucked. the light source casting a shadow on his face and shoulder and chest is coming from a different point than the one casting shadows on the environment under him. the hard line of the shadow on his face should also be a gradient but it has a hard line like the side of his face has a sharp right angle going down it.

>>7143864
>ban kids from the internet
I want to support this but it sort of feels like how baby boomers pulled up the ladder of success when they got rich in a "Fuck you I got mine", just now it's millennials and gen X. very few people here accessed the internet first when they were an adults, they were kids or teens.

>>7143902
>A doomer mindset
A REALISTIC mindset.
China has a social credit score right now and Biden and the Democrafts CAN'T WAIT to have their own version of that in the US.

>b-but I live in Europe
It's the same for the EU and UK, retard.
"Progressive" governments LOVE totalitarianism just as much as the hard right, they just want to be the ones stepping on your neck.
Don't give them the tools, retard.

>As a parent, i will not allow my children to use the internet
>OMG U FUCKING BOOMER
see? you just can't argue with these straight up unironical groomers

>>7143905
Completely disingenuous. There are in fact already rules in place that prevent kids from getting hit by trucks in public spaces. Before there were rules, there were badly organized roads, no warning signs, little public awareness, and cars did routinely run over civilians. Now, with engineering and planning, most of those accidents have been averted. The parent barely even needs to tell their kid how to avoid cars now, they just fucking tell them "stay on the sidewalk."

This is the same thing with the public internet space. We're still laying the groundwork to make it functional and healthy. We're building sidewalks. Sorry, cowboy. Your era is coming to an end (and good riddance to the lot of you.)

The future internet will be one where children do not have access to your shitty drawings. Boo hoo. Cry more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xETgrsxMgI

btw this is also what """freedom of speech""" generates
>a bunch of kids groomed by furries and allowed to be mentally ill in public
Are these kids puritan albino schizo nazi jews as well because they INSTINCTUALLY know this shit doesn't belong in public?

I wouldn't be surprised if most of the pro-porn trannies here are autistic yifffags as well

>>7143230
>>7143233
>What abstraction ultimately fails to comprehend is that the job of the artist is to reveal beauty to the viewer. The artist must perceive beauty where it may be found and take action to render it visible. Beauty doesn't exist in an assertion, it exists in an actual arrangement of real things.
>abstraction denies the reality of beauty, reduces art to a social contract between the viewer and the artist, a social fiction layered atop an irrelevant, dubious reality. Abstraction is nihilism.
Indeed

filtered.

>>7143230
>To create art is to create harmony. It is to demonstrate a relationship between the disparate elements of a thing by which those elements all accord with one another.
what if one cultural institution rejects this definition?

>>7143245
Found the authoritarian. Literally Hitler/Stalin

>>7143860
> It's fine for people to enjoy whatever they please
Definitely a totalitarian vibe. I'm soooo sorry:
> Break down the patriarchy!

You're baiting (well, 90% chance), but I'm sure many people would unironically agree with you. To them I'd say, alright, let's do it your way;I'll sit in a corner and wait 30, 50 years, then come out of hiding and laugh and they poor faces like a dumb monkey.

>>7143241
Draw 1000 circles on paper and then it’ll come naturally for mouse

>>7143223
SOVL and good shape language
OP you did good desu :3

>>7143234
Ho do you know? You've never met Miku or OP.

>>7143223
>i luv miku
Same

>>7143223
>with a mouse
Don't do that to yourself. Get a tablet for like 25 bucks or whatever it takes.
Cute Miku though.

>>7143182
I know /ic/ struggles with this concept immensely, but, you can study from two different sources and learn from both, even if you don't master either. In fact, you should take every chance to study new things. Artistic skill is a hollistic thing; it is not something that you can just level up like a video game by killing five hundred pigs.

>>7144090
Then why didn't Finchy say do both?

>>7143667
The exception that proves the rule

>>7144194
Nta; because he found Loomis more useful or appealing [to him] perhaps?

I mean, regardless of the topic you choose, if you pick enough people, you'll find every nuance of point of view on said topic. People are all different, deal with it bro

>>7143182
Just use Hogarth heads. They are straightforward and universal

>>7143018
That's not crabbing that's gate keeping good work brother continue doing so only hot young women should be allowed in

>>7143953
Ethan becker will actually get you into the animation industry

Which then forever sucks the artistic soul out of you.

>>7143024
nothing embodies the crab more

I honestly don't know what to do when someone ask for direction in art. Like I'll literally just tell them to grab a pen and draw, that's how I learned. I never had any teachers or real guidelines, just kick the ball I got and saw where it went.
But this is an awful advice so I dunno what to do when they ask me for help.

>>7144873
100 missed calls from Mappa

>>7142987
autism

>>7143089
I have tat

>>7144156
well youre in good company then friend

>>7142947
>>7142949
>>7142950
>>7142969
>>7142974
>>7142988
Get a fucking life you sore incel losers

>>7142947
"worse" artists have infinitely more interesting art than "good" artists. You can't replicate what the bad artist does, his soul is unique. As long as the intent is clear, the picture is good.

>>7143036
>mass replies on 4chan
>tells others to get a life
unfollowed

>>7142947
most of my followers are better than me and have more followers than me what does that mean

>>7143146
You might be better than you think. Or just being followed by artists who mass-follow in order to gain followers. Some of these people like to cut how many they’re following suddenly, knowing most won’t notice and still follow them. Now they have leet follower to following ratio and can sell their shit for shekels.

Some follow a few new ones and routinely unfollows others, cycling through the sea of other artists trying to get them to follow and and engage with the plan to unfollow them shortly.

However, if those good artists aren’t the type to follow thousands or attempt to trick others into following them, then they probably genuinely like some aspect of your work. Also like >>7143129 said, it’s often the ‘best’ artists whose artwork has become sterile and predictable and uninspired whereas a lot of random amateur beginner and intermediate artists still have a lot of ‘soul’ in their work, have something somewhat original to say through their art. So good and great artists are wise to have their artistic perspective challenged and be inspired by ‘bad’ art.

>>7143952
Masterpiece!

>>7142908
Umm sure

>>7142908
I think the ratio between the hands should be more stark considering the fact of her closeness to the viewer

>>7142908
i like it

>>7142908
Blog for proof?

https://discord.gg/zupRGTvG
Post your sheet, follow the rules. Worked for me.
Yes, paypal works just fine.

>>7142904
hmm, how do I label this thread/post...?
>crab?
>shill?
>bot?
>newfag?
>low tier bait?
>unnecessary?
>reaching?
All of the above!? Bingo!

>>7145318
Just some zoomer garbage

>>7143075
It's not lolicons, at least not exclusive lolicons, it's real pedos who try to throw loli under the bus
https://archive.fo/Ia5ZH
There are hundreds of examples of this happening

>pedos exposing each other
Good. Let them kill each other.

>>7145318
>anti
It's the new "hater"
It is mostly used to describe anyone who expresses anything negative towards consumer products and media.
But it is mostly used as an insult/buzzword towards anyone who dares criticize anything without engaging the speaker directly and divert/deflect any criticism

Example:
Factual statement
>Doing drugs is bad for you
Answer:
>OMG UR SUCH A ANTI YOU JUST WANT PEOPLE TO NOT DO DRUGS? FUCKING PURITAN
Or another example
>this ecelebrity is using his influence to get kids to drink bleach, this person should be arrested
response
>OMG UR SUCH AN HATER
And there you go. The discussion has been poisoned, the speaker deflected and branded as irrational and the threat of the truth disposed of.
Ultimately, it's a censorship tactic to demoralize any future truth speaker and for others to not engage in the message the one branded as an "anti" delivered.

Usually, when you hear/read anyone say "anti" against any and all criticism, nigga they're guilty as fuck.

>>7143163
Much of the nuance of his forms has disappeared. He's gone down the same "promising beginner -> comfortably sucking" pipeline every popular social media artist eventually becomes a victim to. When you have a large following that will cheer even if you ooze out literal feces, there's little motivation to improve.

>>7142713
SHEEEEIT IM AN ARTEIS, IM FUCKING MIKY LANGEYS NIGGA!!!

This is for OP, i also used to do graffiti (15 years ago) and have not done graffiti or art for that long. Graffiti was cool for me because i liked colors and scribbling. its been so long i lost my way and im trying to go back to art in general (studying on my own). here's some scribbles i did last week after 15+ years of doing nothing (growing up and working at an insurance office as an adjuster sucks...the life of you)

Another scribbles of studies...trying to learn from my mistakes

^something i notice as you get older your hand shakes and is not as firm as it used to be (in my case) :(

>>7145280
stop drinking :smiley: and train them

>>7142691
If you have a certain level of autism you won't ever learn how to draw, sorry. Try pixel art instead

>>7142708
I'm not autistic at all and i didn't ask for demoralization posts.
>>7142703
I appreciate the sentiment but i actually do need to get to a certain level of technical aptitude first

>>7142717
>I appreciate the sentiment but i actually do need to get to a certain level of technical aptitude firs
Well, cat-posting aside, I think the fastest way to improve is to develop your observational eye. Even as a comic book artist myself, who mainly draws from imagination, the time I improved the MOST was when I did a huge, concentrated amount of master copies, learning to copy what I saw very precisely.

It didn't make sense to me, as a beginner, why an artist who mainly wants to draw from imagination, must develop their eye, but it makes sense to me now, now that I've developed the skill. Developing your eye means basically developing a better ability to acquire visual information. In order to draw from imagination well, you need to first, be able to see forms, and second, be able to memorize them. But if you can't even see the forms properly in the first place, you will never be able to memorize them either.

So all of this is to say, I think you should be spending a lot of time doing studies, where each study takes 30+ minutes each. Give yourself the time to truly observe the subject you're drawing, and correct your mistakes. You can draw anything, but figure drawing will help you improve the fastest, because you can easily see your mistakes. A busted human figure looks busted to anybody. And i recommend you approach the figure through both master copies + life drawing. Get a Bridgman book, and do copies out of that for an hour, then go to life drawing class, and draw from life (or photos). I can recommend Loomis' "Figure Drawing for all it's worth" as a good, basic textbook for drawing the figure from life.

Developing your eye is a long journey, but it's the skill that pays off the most. If you can observe, construction and anatomy will come very easy to you.

>>7142907
Not op, but I appreciate your well thought out post, thanks a lot my man

>>7142691

>>7142690
>no/draw
*sage and hides thread

>>7142797
>it obsesses rightoids
true, but in fairness it's the leftoids who have been trying to push incoherent gender theory and faux benevolence into law, schools, and pushing it onto children (not all, obviously). so to an extent it's just a reaction of people fed up with irrationality.

>>7142867
Its really funny you think your doing anything besides just being contrarian, you truly have no idea what your talking about and it shows. Thinking anybody gives a fuck about le muhfuggin "identity" besides leftoids. How does someone even get like this let alone end up on 4chinz

>>7142690
how is a he/him or a she/her any better than a they/them

>日本語OK!!