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>Assemble a part list
https://pcpartpicker.com/
>Example gaming builds and monitor suggestions; click on titles above parts lists to see notes
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/
>How to assemble a PC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69WFt6_dF8g [Embed]

Want help?
>State budget & CURRENCY
>Post at least some attempt at a parts list
>List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)

CPUs based on current pricing
>Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS)
>R3 3200G - Minimum 30-60fps gaming. The stronger 3400G sells for $150. (R3K APUs OCs better than R2K)
>R5 2600 - 60fps+ gaming CPU with great value
>R5 3600 - Great gaming CPU
>R7 3700X - Overkill gaming CPU
>R7 1700X - Budget video editing
>R9 3900X - Professional tasks

RAM
>Do not use a single DIMM. 2 sticks for a typical dual channel CPU
>CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 3200CL16 or Micron E-die ("AES" in code) recommended
>AMD B & X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
>B-die is EOP, stock is limited

GPUs based on current pricing
1080p
>RX 570/580 8GB - Can be found on sale/used for cheap. Look for 570s which are >1240MHz boost
>(GTX 1660TI @ ~$230/Vega56 @ ~$270) - higher fps / more demanding games
>RX 5700 - higherer FPS
1440p
>RX 5700 - standard, 75-100FPS+
>RX 5700XT - higher fps
2160p (4K)
>RTX 2070S OC - budget option. Turing scales better into 4K than Navi does.
>2080Ti - best for 4K but expensive

>Navi AIB models come mid-August. 5700 non-XT blower is alright, due to low power.

General
>Yes, adaptive sync (free/g/sync) is important for gaming
>NVMe isn't better than SATA SSD for gaming
>Don't use Speccy
>Don't trust sites which rank CPUs by arbitrary, obfuscated scores (eg userbenchmark, passmark, cpuboss)
>AM4 VRMs + Monitors + SSD Guide under "more"

more: https://rentry.co/pcbg-more
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>> No.72057742
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72057742

what are the chances that 5700xt aib will be delayed?

>> No.72057763

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zXMNfH

>> No.72057798

>>72057742
good enough for you to consider a waterblock
tho id wait further, seems amd is cooking a 5800

>>72057651
i dont actually wanna mine bitcoins on a laptop

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>>72057798
>>72057742
NOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.72057831

>>72057742
asus already confirmed delays

>> No.72057846

i got my 5700XT day one and i dont regret a thing. Shit looks sleek as fuck and is surprisingly quiet

>> No.72057855
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Buy Intel.
Buy Nvidia.

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>>72057831
>>72057823
>>72057742
>inb4 niggabyte shitty ass AIB will be the only one dropping mid-august while the other ones will face delays

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Rate my new ryzen build

>> No.72057901

>>72053288
>You get better temps if you replace stock themp.
Who teh fuck made your card to begin with?
I replaced the stock past on a Sapphire RX580 Nitro+ with Kryonaut and got the exact same temps.
So for some AIB partner to use worse paste than even MX-4, that's fucking sad.

>>72056110
lmfao seasonic in charge of retardation

>>72057763
?

>>72057859
Na Sapphire and Powercolor will almost certainly be there.

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>>72057859
STOP
DON'T EVEN SAY THAT

>> No.72057914

>>72057901
>?
?

>> No.72057915

>>72057846
wat monitor?

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>>72057901
>almost certainly
>almost

>> No.72057932

>>72057846
Temperatures
Games
Parts
Pics or it didn't happen

>> No.72057934
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>>72057846
We believe you

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>>72057934
Jokes on you
My refrigerator whines at a constant 60db

>> No.72057986

LMAOing at this shekel hoarder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIVjhvDVHpY

>> No.72057996

>>72057897
1.7v? that can't be right surely

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>in b4 aib 5700xt released aug 1

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Just in case anybody wondered when the MSI MAX boards might come out:

I just pre-ordered one in Germany from a larger online shop for 95€ and they say it will 'probably' be available starting the 31st of July.

That's pretty much the price the non-MAX version sells for, so hopefully that's a sign that MSI doesn't plan on charging an extra 20€ for the 32MB bios.

>> No.72058029

>>72057986
who?

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>>72057718
>yfw zen2 is the real bulldozer

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>>72058013

>> No.72058041

>>72058013
inb4 they're still hot, loud, have coil whine, and other AMD favourites

>> No.72058060

>>72058026
>larger online shop
drop the name of the shop instead of using vague reference to it

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>>72058036

>> No.72058073
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Monitor is a 165hz 1440p gsync, I'm in the US. I also got about $450 for some of my old parts so that brings the price down a bit. I plan to use this for 3 years before selling and doing the same if there is a significant performance gain to be had(like in this case 4 cores -> 8 cores, over 100% gpu performance increase).
What do you think?
Going to replace the case fan and the one on the GPU cooler, 280mm radiator will go up front. With an AIO on both main parts as well as an additional 2x 120mm noctuas moving air I think it'll stay pretty quiet and cool even though it's small.

>> No.72058093

>>72058060

I don't know why I phrased it like that. In any case: Mindfactory

>> No.72058102

Any reason why BIOS can't find my SSD?

>> No.72058108

>>72058093
thanks

>> No.72058116

So I had a friend help me with this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/f2k3KB
Did we fuck up?

>> No.72058117

>>72058073
You're spending $1100 more just to get about 25-30% more fps than a $800 build, but the build looks fine.

>>72058102
You didn't plug it in, or it's dead.

>> No.72058129

>>72057996
>used an ancient version to get wrong readings on purpose

>> No.72058146

is navi's frequency temperature dependant like pascal or turing?

>> No.72058154

>>72058117
>You didn't plug it in, or it's dead.
it was working earlier though
I haven't dropped it

>> No.72058155

>>72058117
Well it's not pictured but I also use a 1080p 240hz monitor depending on the game. I like keeping my games as close to 165hz as possible and there are 3 new games that aren't even out yet that I'll actually play(haven't played a AAA in like 5 years).
The 2080ti isnt even doing 165fps in most new AAA's on 1440p so I figured I had to at least go for it instead of a 2070 super or something.

>> No.72058181

>>72058154
i had a similar issue with a nvme

is it on a m.2 slot? you might have accidentaly disabled a few sata ports by connecting something to it

>> No.72058188

>>72058093
Cool. Apparently the B450 Gaming Plus Max is already available, price is a bit high tough.
Btw did singapore anon report back on how it went with his Tomahawk Max?

>> No.72058209

>>72058181
i have no M.2 storage
The BIOS also does not See my HDD

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72058221

Recommendations for a good cooler to get with my 3800x?

>> No.72058222

>>72058155
Yeah dude, you won't get 240fps in every game. You're insane for thinking that's achievable. Most games simply run shit no matter your hardware. That's why it's a stupid dragon to chase.

You're paying $1920 to just get about 30% higher FPS than you could get for $850. That's how it is. If you're fine with that, then go for it, it's whatever.

>>72058146
Yes... just like Polaris and Vega also where. IIRC Polaris gave like a 5% frequency improvement for each 10% you lowered the temp. It's just a physical fact of the process nodes.

>> No.72058234

Will a B450M Gaming Plus gimp a 3600?

>> No.72058268
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>>72058221
>he got a 3800x
scythe fuma 2, scythe mugen 5 rev b, le grand macho rt, grand macho rev b, noctua nh d15, be quiet dark rock 4 pro or an AIO

>> No.72058328

I'm looking for a new case:

europe
atx
needs at least a usb type c
ssd slot
as little leds as possible
budget 50€

any idea?

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>just get a Ryzen 1700 and overclock it
Great fucking advice /g/?

>> No.72058363

>>72058352
Stop stealing images from r*ddit

>> No.72058374

>>72058352
overclocking doesn't involve propane, m8. go back and read the instructions over again

>> No.72058375

>>72058328
>under 50€
>front type c
doubt, if you want type c then get a mobo with it

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>>72058268
I'm telling you mon, give it 3 months and the only CPU that will actually hit their supposed boost rates will be the 3800x and the 3600x.

Any preferences among those coolers?

>> No.72058397

2070 super or 5700 xt? been amd for awhile but been wanting to go nvidia this time, but the 5700xt is $150 cheaper but faster in most games

>> No.72058405

Daily reminder, purchase your graphics cards used. I got my 1080 TI FTW3 for 500 bucks, and nothing you can buy can compare to that deal which isn't even really uncommon these days. You can probably get a 1080ti for cheaper.

>> No.72058417

>>72058389
I'm getting 3800x in less then a month and plan on going with noctua, can't mess up with it and it's cheaper to buy them for me since I'm buying them directly in Austria.

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Anything I should upgrade? I've been out of the loop when it comes to hardware.

Most taxing game I play is Apex Legends and I can get a stable 110 fps on a 1440 monitor with max settings, but I believe I have shadows turned down. GPU has only ever hit a max of 60. Outside of that, the most taxing thing would be SVP.

>> No.72058427

>>72058389
be quiet dark rock 4 pro because it looks better than the noctua, scythe fuma 2 if you have ram clearance problems, AIO if you have the money and want RGB

>> No.72058436

>>72058397
I'd wait until august for the drivers to mature and AIB cards to come out for the 5700XT.

>>72058405
>I paid $500 used for the performance of a $400 5700 XT new
Are you trying to brag or is this some self-deprecation fetish?

>> No.72058448

Is 3 top exhaust fans and 3 front intake fans on a 360mm aio a good setup? Will the VRMs have enough airflow on top of them?

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>>72058209
Have you removed it and put it in again?

>>72058221
Noctua NH-U14S? And get a 3700X.

>>72058116
Get a SSD if you don't have one already, a cheaper board, faster ram, a not shit case and a 1660 (Ti) or Vega 56.
If you feel adventurous, go with a R5 3600 + B450 Tomahawk.

>>72058328
>needs at least a usb type c
>budget 50€
Pretty much impossible, filtering on Geizhals yields only 2 cases and they're both most likely shit.

>> No.72058472

>>72058436
>I'd wait until august for the drivers to mature and AIB cards to come out for the 5700XT.
was gonna wait for AIB but didn't realize that'd be in august. was hoping to build it next week for the canadian long weekend. might buy a 2070 super and return it when 5700xt aib cards are out

thanks

>> No.72058475

>>72058310

Made my thread before realizing this one exists.
Please halp.

>> No.72058490

>>72058475
>b360
just leave

>> No.72058499

>>72058475
Why would you buy an i5-9600 to begin with when you can get a 3600, or for cheap get a 2600/X?
So your question is just irrelevant. It's like asking what the best cactus to stick up your asshole is. Ideally, you'd just not stick a cactus up your asshole.

>>72058472
At least in the US, GPUs usually have restocking fees for this very reason.

>> No.72058507

>>72058475
the board is fine for a locked i5, not sure about the bios update maybe they sell the board with an upgraded bios but you would need to ask to the seller

>> No.72058539
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Do you guys think current X399 boards will be compatible with Zen2 Threadripper?

>> No.72058565

>>72058454
Have you removed it and put it in again?
yes

>> No.72058618

>>72058209
does it has power? take pics?

>> No.72058619

>>72058499
>At least in the US, GPUs usually have restocking fees for this very reason.
>americans cucked again

>>72058389
3600X and 3800X are the trash bin that can't hit the clockspeeds of the 3600/3700X at that low TDP, so they let them draw more power and sell them more expensive.

>>72058565
Try if it works with another mobo? Clear CMOS?

>> No.72058630

>>72058436
I got it about half a year back at least but still wasn't bad for the price, with the FTW3 crap it's definitely significantly stronger than the XT.

Again you can easily do better now but I'd still recommend buying used since graphics card technology hasn't made any real leaps in years.

>> No.72058637

>>72058234
an a 320 wont

>> No.72058675

>>72058507
Locked i5 is kind of under rated. No one ever considers the locked intel CPUs. Which is fair enough considering there is no premium on 'unlocked' ryzen shit and the 3600 is the best value for nearly every use case outside of very high 1080p refresh.
I was checking out the 9400, 8700, 9700 etc and they do pretty well. Even the i3 9350 is kind of interesting since it's only $99. $350 5700, $99 9350, $65 mobo, $90 ram and you got a great 60 or 75hz box for dirt cheap.
Although yeah 3600 would only be another $100 I suppose.

>> No.72058693

>>72058475
b board for a budget intel is really bad. they are just too expensive

if you positively must do something with it, sell it. as someone that has a i7 8700 and a h310m s2p, i have regrets over everything.

>> No.72058702

Is a 3600 good for 2k gaming or should I spend the extra cash on a 3700x?

>> No.72058708
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Been years since building anything, not too knowledgeable on the real complicated stuff admittedly. Threw this together after lurking. I trust that you'll tell me if anything here is retarded /g/

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/dW8BNQ

Monitor is 1080p, 144Hz, build would pretty much be just for gaming at most.

Budget is around 1k, give or take.

>> No.72058711

>>72057108
anyone? i plan to pair it up with a 3700x and im still looking for a mobo

>> No.72058724

>>72058702
3700x for futureproofing

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>>72058499
>Why would you buy an i5-9600 to begin with when you can get a 3600, or for cheap get a 2600/X?

both of which are worse for gaming then a i5 9600

>> No.72058753

Is the 2080 super that much better than a 5700XT that it's worth another $300+? Gaymen rig

>> No.72058757

>>72058711
Do you want to overclock ram? Then get the ballistix. Otherwise there's not any difference in performance.

>> No.72058764

>STILL waiting for 5700xt aibs to come out
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.72058778

>>72058737
where the fuck do you see a locked i5 there

just sell that shit and buy a z board

is it that hard

>> No.72058793

>>72058753
tl dr no, too expensive for so little gain

2070s is sufficient for you

>> No.72058797

Lookin to upgrade my CPU, MOBO and memory- on some old hardware and it's starting to show its age, not to mention im getting pretty tired of worrying over this 8350's nightmarish temperature problems. Got a budget of about 300$ to throw around on parts

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>>72058539
bump

>> No.72058820

>>72058618
>does it have power
not sure how to tell
what would it mean in either case
>>72058619
I'll try getting it working with a old motherboard

>> No.72058822

>>72058778

I want to use a specific B360 board to fit the color theme in my build.

>> No.72058825

>>72058737
there is no 9600 on your chart
why are you so dumb?

>> No.72058829

>>72058797
>300$
do you game? do you have a monitor and case already?

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trying to stay close to 100FPS 1440p, do I need something memey like 2080ti or will a 2080 be enough?

Updating from a 1060 6gb.

>> No.72058840

Who else Ryzen running 90 degreed C?

>> No.72058852

>>72058793
But why not a 5700XT then? I'm 100% fine keeping $150 and losing 2 FPS.

>> No.72058855

>>72058822
just get a z board that looks like it

>>72058825
even if that chart had a 9600f its performance would be nowhere close to the 9600k

B boards wont even let you overclock memory. its a absolute waste over a Z board and utterly expensive over a H board for no benefit

>> No.72058871

>>72058822
>Caring about a color theme
An absolute brainlet move.

>> No.72058880

>>72058830
2070s will do i belive.

>>72058852
id honestly tell you to get the xt and a watercooling part that just the xt. dont gamble with whenever you will tolerate or not the noise.

also wait for the aib cards or even a possible 5800

>> No.72058885

>>72058871

The specs won't mean shit in 6 years, but it will still look nice.

>>72058855

>just get a z board that looks like it
there are none, not even close

>> No.72058899

>>72058885
>The specs won't mean shit in 6 years, but it will still look nice.
how do people like you get jobs

fucking paint one. get one that has heatsinks covering everything and hydro dip it like in that LTT video

>> No.72058913

>>72058830
2070S will be more than enough especially if you OC it, if you want to save a buck then get the 5700XT

>> No.72058921

>>72058880
Noise isn't a problem because I wear headphones. But I guess I'll wait for other cards and buy everything else now.

>> No.72058938

>>72058830
2070 Super OC will get you ~100fps in 1440p

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I'm sorry former Ryzen Bros. I just couldn't take the BSOD's, memory problems, 65C idle temps and not even hitting proper boost clocks anymore. Returned my Asus Pro WS-X570 Ace and Ryzen 3900X in exchange for pic related.

I'll be pulling for you all for AMD, motherboard manufacturers, and Windows to fix the various issues.

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>>72058954

>> No.72058978

>>72058954
hope you didnt lost money tbqh.
but really you should have undervolted and worked trhu the setups to make it work at least.

>> No.72059009

Is a 600 watt PSU enough for high end?

Or should I get something like 700+?

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>>72058954
>unironically falling for the rog meme
kys zoomer

>> No.72059014

If the 9600k and 3600 were the same price, which would you recommend for gaming? (I've already got a CPU cooler)

>> No.72059028

>>72058954
based

>>72058973
cope

>>72058978
>dood just jump through hoops to get it working lmao
dumb drone

>> No.72059038

>>72058978
I did everything I could. I have a 2x16GB Samsung B-die kit CL14-3200MHz that works flawlessly in my old X370/R7-1700X build. Couldn't even get anything above 2933MHz stable at CL17 timings. Anything faster or fighters caused a hard lock. CPU could be tamed if I was willing to force a voltage via LLC, but then I lost a shit load of performance in single threads because apparently these things are binned to need 1.5v for their "4.5GHz boost". Of which I didn't see. All I ever saw on a single core was 4.35GHz once. I was willing to ignore the performance issues while I wait for a fix if the system would just stay on. Constant crashes and bluescreens, Windows WHEA errors out the ass. All on a fresh install of legit 10 Pro onto my Samsung 960 EVO

As far as price, I broke even after taxes and throwing in the cooler

>> No.72059042

>>72057742
That the 5700xt add in board will be delayed? But there's already two.

>> No.72059048

can someone w X570 mobo measure their DPC latency as well as use Mouse Tester to measure polling/update of mouse packets? I SPENT ENTIRE DAY TO FIND ONE FUCK THAT HAS X570 AND I CANT FIND ONE

>> No.72059078

Best CPU to upgrade to from my i3 8350k in the $200 price range?

Don't want to change my motherboard, it's quite expensive, but I got it for free, it's an MSI Z390 board.

>> No.72059097

>>72059010
If it makes it any better, my case is a Fractal R6 Blackout with no window and I fully intend to disable Any RGB. I got this board because it was hands down the best in regards to features and build quality of VRMs compared to the other Z390 boards Microcenter had.

>> No.72059109

>>72059038
real pity this ryzen gen has so many issues, i hope they can be fixed eventually at least

so if you didnt lost money thats what matters, really

>> No.72059110

Recommendations on PSU brands?

I don't want to blow up my new shit.

>> No.72059124

>>72058708
Get an RX 5700 for only a little more than the 2060. Might want to step up to a 600-650W PSU just in case.

>> No.72059130

>>72059078
would it even be possible for you to find a used i7 8700k? i5 are not really worth it, but it should be easier to get

anyway you are looking at 500 usd or so upgrades, do yourself a favor and see if your mobo can be flashed for the next generation.

>> No.72059134

>>72058026
If they charge something stupid for it I'll be offering flash upgrades in my area for existing boards since people will probably be able to get them on clearance. It's exactly the same board apart from the flash.

>> No.72059138

>>72059078
If you want to overclock a 9600k ($250)

If not, the i5 9400. ($150)

>> No.72059144

>>72059110
Seasonic
EVGA gold units

Those are the only ones I use. I would take a bronze Seasonic over an EVGA if they were the same wattage and price. I've never been let down by a Seasonic in my life

>> No.72059150
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>>72057718
What speeds can I get on an intel 660p SSD on a pcie 2.0 x4? It says on the package it has 1800 mb/s write/read speeds

>> No.72059167

>>72059097
alright

>> No.72059208

>>72059150
isnt 660p shit? it chokes heavily when the memory fills

anyway how can you be so certain your old pcie2.0 will even work with the new ssd?

>> No.72059209

>>72059138
>having to pay a premium to be able to tinker with the hardware you already paid
intel is the EA of CPUs

>> No.72059290

>>72058954
Did the same thing, let's hope zen 4 is more stable and actually beats the 8700k, 9700k and 9900k in most games too.

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>>72059208
Because i was planning to buy an adapter w/ heatsink but now I have doubts, which ssd would you recommend me then?

>> No.72059311

>>72059293
honestly op should be rather complete, but get something that uses sata ports

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>>72057897
>>72057996
rate my voltage goys, totally not a bogus readout

>> No.72059347

>>72059319
>tfw I still have a 5V Pentium in a drawer somewhere

>> No.72059350

Gaming and music production.

Dell XPS 15

Lenovo Legion Y740

or

Razer Blade (15.6) ?

>> No.72059368

is a used gigabyte gtx 1050 non ti 2GB worth it for 50$? or should I keep looking for a better brand with TI and 4GB which won't exceed 50 degrees?

>> No.72059375

How much could I sell my non super 2060 and what should I pick up once I do

>> No.72059382

>>72059144
So something like https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0778XF1HL/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1 ?

>> No.72059384

>>72059368
buy used 1050ti

>>72059375
dont you have a return program for a 2060s?

>> No.72059385

>>72059319
imagine the smell

>> No.72059391

>>72058422
Halp

>> No.72059407

>>72059391
wats your OC? wat heatsink you have?everything there is pretty good, id be worried about SSD and HDD age but not really a necessity

>> No.72059435

>>72058675
>Locked i5 is kind of under rated.
No it's not. It's shit. So is the 9600k, for that matter, unless you're just looking to run one specific game like CSGO and don't care about anything else.

>>72059138
>please don't buy a R5 2600, a better CPU, for only $120
>please pay $150 for a locked threadlet i5
>>72059078
Why'd you ever buy that CPU to begin with...? You could have bought a 1600 or 2600 at the time and you likely wouldn't be feeling the need to upgrade now.

Even a used 8700k isn't worth it when you can likely get a b450 board + 3600 for the price of a used 8700k by itself.

>>72058702
3600 is generally all you need. But if you want a consistent 100+ fps, some future games may be more demanding of more cores. Like Kingdom Come Deliverence is an example which can dip to 35-45fps on a 9700k or 3600 and 60-70fps on a 3700X.
Can argue that the game is still unfinished and that's optimization issues, but still.

>>72059368
New? Yeah just for basic usage. Won't get you far in gaming, though.
Used? Not really.

>> No.72059436

>>72059384
I bought it back in feb

>> No.72059453

7 or 8 pins for gpu?

>> No.72059465

Thinking about selling my 2060 for a 5700xt. So my question to 5700xt owners. Sre the drivers and shit pkay or sre you trying to cope with the early adoption bugs? I reallllly dont want to deal with any bugs or bullshit.

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Convince me not to buy this
I don't care if it's a full on ricer PC accessory that probably does nothing for SSD speed but I like the look of it

>> No.72059481

>>72058829
Yes and yes, and a PSU, graphics card, HD, etc

>> No.72059490

>>72059453
If they both fit you have a at least one defective 8pin

>> No.72059494

>>72059436
so you cant RMA and no return program for it since its 2old?

honestly pester the manufacturer for it. its not worth to sell it because of the memory and manufacture issues that happened, the market is jammed with 2060 that are broken because of those issues

>> No.72059500

>>72059319
1600 really was a shitty cpu

>> No.72059504
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Just assembled my new ryzen build
Is this supposed to happen?

>> No.72059510

Can AGP cards work with PCI or only AGP cards which specifically say PCI?

>> No.72059513

>>72059490
But what's the difference between the 7 and 8 pins cables?

>> No.72059520

>>72059471
my brother from another computer brand, i have one of those
took some good 12c off my NVMe, go for it, cooler storage should last longer

>> No.72059534

>>72059513
1

>> No.72059541

Can a shit power supply murder my GPU and MOBA?

>> No.72059542
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>>72059534

>> No.72059569

>>72059541
It can
a good PSU can murder things too
The difference is, a good PSU is much less likely to kill other things if it fails

>> No.72059571

>>72059504
Yes, perfectly normal burn-in.

>> No.72059574

how many of you are using linux for gaming, as opposed to windows?
>>72059541
absolutely. if it starts a fire it can murder you, too

>> No.72059576

>>72059471
>try to click the other thumbnails
>don't load
wtf fix your image

>>72059520
>cooler storage should last longer
Not true.
NAND is more likely to bit-flip when cold, not warm. Look it up.

>>72059541
Yes.

>>72059504
That's not an AMD GPU that catches fire, you trolling retard.

>> No.72059594

>>72059504
That's a 1060, you dumb faggot.

>> No.72059622
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rTQbFt

For the monitor

https://www.amazon.com/LG-27GL850-B-Ultragear-Compatible-Monitor/dp/B07TD94TQF/

Any recommendations? Maybe a quick kill yourself for the road? By the way for those shopping to get a 2080 super the only one left is that dumbass gigabyte one on newegg.

>> No.72059624

>>72058073
lol what a fuckin' waste of money

>> No.72059640

>>72057718
As of right now which is better for modded minecraft? Ryzen or Intel still
MC is still very much single threaded for the most part, newer mods and forge versions does utilize some multi core but not sure of the scaling
I'm on a 4690K now

>> No.72059656

Thoughts on 4GB vs 8GB of VRAM for 1080p? There's an RX580 4GB on Newegg for $120 right now, which is $50 cheaper than any other RX580 I've seen, and I'm really tempted to pull the trigger.

>> No.72059670

>>72059481
admitting a lot of shit can be bought used its doable but reusing HDD and PSU, wich is not advised

get a A320 mobo that takes ddr4 NOT used
buy a used 2600 non X with a cooler USED
get 2 sticks of 4 gb ddr4 ram, whatever you can get speed, NOT USED
install this on your old case with the old PSU, wich you should consider upgrading asap. after the PSU upgrade you will need to consider the storages, that might be reaching end of life.

this is ~220 USD give or take. it leaves you with ~80 for a GPU. you can tecnically get a USED rx580~570 or 1050ti for that price i think, maybe, who knows. it will likely be mining trash so expect to rebuy it later. if you dont know the rating of your PSU look for a low profile or SFF 1050ti, they consume less power that 570.

this will let you game on high to medium settings on a 1080p60 monitor for quite some time.

>> No.72059671

>>72059656
Future console ports will probably give you some headaches since their unified memory is 12GB+. But that price really is tempting.

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>>72058778
>>72058737
>>72059435
in regards to the 9600k, it is strictly better at video games than the 3600. Including in minimums.
3600 is simply a better option because of it's price, included sufficient cooler, and longevity of the socket.
I actually spent a bunch of time on this someone give me a cookie or new case fan or something. Hope it doesn't come across biased.

>> No.72059713

>>72059689
>9600k
its useless because anon who started the shitstorm is talking about a non k variant.

i5 and in some cases i7 are bad because the minimun 1% fps suffers with weird spikes in the processor. it just stutters uncontrollably sometimes

>> No.72059727

>>72059689
How does the 9600k compare to a 3700x?
I feel like a lot of people are ITS GOOD RIGHT NOW IN GAMING but I feel if you want to 'future proof' your system you'd go more cores and more threads since the performance difference right now is not huge at all and you get a lot less spikes with the 3700x.

I don't know, Intel shills are grasping really hard at their one little microscopic victory

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>>72059713
but that other guy said 9600k is shit too when it looks to me that its still pretty good.

>> No.72059793

>>72059670
Is there any reason to worry too much about a new PSU? Aside from the fact it’ll eventually need to be replaced any way that is

>> No.72059796

Will people with RTX 2060 and worse GPUs have to upgrade by the time next console comes out? It seems like the bottom bar will be RX 5700.

>> No.72059800

>buy a new case
>it's wobbles

>> No.72059831

>>72059796
if the nvidia jew could stop price gouging their products i'd be glad to upgrade

>> No.72059837

>>72059783
id just get a i7, its simply better. sadly the truth is that intel was always weird on the price range. with 3k series ryzen it makes sense to ignore cheap i3 builds, any i5 build and only consider i7 or i9 that can be OC. before at least there was SOME options regarding ocing i5 and locked i3.

>>72059793
does your psu has any kind of rating? very old PSU when they die they fry everything connected to them. you cant really consider keeping it for long.

>>72059796
bottom bar is still set by 1660 and 1660ti due to current entry level tv/monitors still locked to 1080p60. likely AMD is planning something for that performance range, since we know theres a alleged patent for rx5600

>>72059800
my chink case doesnt wobble
tigthen that shit yourself

>> No.72059887

>>72059837
I pretty much agree. Originally made that for me to see if it was worth modifying my socket to replace 6600k with 9600k or buy new board for 3600.
Depending on budget it looks like these are the only things worth consdering: Athlon 200GE > i3 9100f/3200g > i5 9400 > 3600 > 9700k.
So in reality only 200GE/3600/9700k matter to 99.9% of customers.

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Is it just me or is the Vega 56 currently the best 1920x1080 card out there? With the recent price slashes it blows absolutely everything out of the water on price/performance.
I really dont see how AMD are gonna make the rx5600 compete

>> No.72059897

>>72059796
Next gen consoles seem to be targetting [email protected] or [email protected]
So lesser GPUs will still do [email protected] fine.

>>72059783
It's fine "on average" but there are many examples of it suttering even in ideal benchmark scenarios. The suttery is much worse in the real world where you run more than just a game and nothing else.

>>72059727
3700X gets better frametimes now and that'll only go even more in its favor in the future.

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>>72059888
It is pretty good but because the 5700 is only $70 more I would still likely go for that.
It's actually extremely specific to what you play. If I had absolutely no hardware right now I would buy a 1080p 144hz monitor as they cost nothing and then the cheapest possible thing to make my game work. For example I can play my 3 games maxed out at 144hz on a 580.
GPU market is so bad that just getting through it without being raped too bad would be a pretty good goal. 100% buy what you need to play your game on your monitor again though the choice is pretty highly game dependent.
god help us if AMD and Intel can't return the GPU market to true competitiveness.

>> No.72059948

>>72059888
how's the drivers for older games?

>> No.72059959

>>72059941
>1080p 144hz monitor as they cost nothing
2 minimun wage where i live...

brazil is suffering.

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>>72059897
but where? I don't see it winning in averages and losing in .1% lows or anything.
I don't even personally experience stuttering on my delidded 6600k although I suppose that's a bit irrelevant as 9600k has 50% more cores.
>>72059941
thats one of my favorite parts ever, rdna/8c 14nm++++++ version W H E N??
would btfo all the sff fags

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>>72059888
>I really dont see how AMD are gonna make the rx5600 compete
RX5600 will be more power efficient.
Probably between 1660 and 1660ti performance, closer to 1660ti at $250 and 100-120W.
Vega 56 will sit between the 5600 XT and 5700, but use more power than even the 5700 Xt.

If you can find Vega 56 at $270-$280, it's still going to hold the price:performance crown, but it's not very efficient (at least it's not very inefficient like the RX580, either)
Also, RX 5600 will support RIS as it's part of the Navi architecture, which will likely reasonably do 1080p-1200p upscaling to 1440p

>>72059948
If you want to play older games you need to use an older OS or emulate on Linux. You're going to have trouble with Nvidia on Win10 as well.

>>72059985
>I don't see it winning in averages and losing in .1% lows or anything.
You are clearly not looking hard enough.

>> No.72060032
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So anons, I am fairly proficient at this stuff, I just haven't built a PC in a good few years. I want an HTPC, is it cheaper to build one myself or buy prebuilt?
I'd prefer a pretty small (microatx?) Form factor to fit reasonably on a TV stand, but I'd also like to be able to fit a good amount of storage in it, for to use as a torrent box.
Any suggestions on what APU to go for, or cases?
Im not really gonna be gaming on it much outside of launching Counterstrike to watch the major, etc, so I'm not too worried about graphics performance, but I'll be watching 1080p-4k content on it regularly

>> No.72060082

What's the cheapest way to get 100% usage from a 380x for only 1080p gaming?
I have a spare case, but I don't think my spare 400w PSU will work with a used CPU with it likely needing more power and 380x uses 300w.
So the way I see it my options are a new lowpower CPU which would require more expensive mobo and ram, or maybe a 4th gen i5 and a new PSU. Also a friend would sell me a i5 2400 prebuilt with 16gb, but would need a new PSU for $120.

Can I do better than that?

>> No.72060090

How hard is it to put a custom cooler on a 5700xt

>> No.72060101

>>72060032
2400G?

>> No.72060135
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>>72060090
It's not. The instructions literally come with the cooler.
It's not much more difficult than installing a CPU cooler, with the main extra difficulty being that you have to installed the small heatsinks onto the VRAM and mosfets which are easily identified as dark grey rectangles/squares.

>>72060032
It's slightly cheaper to make yourself. But some of those embedded boards are compelling for how tiny they are.

>> No.72060140

>>72060101
Cool, are there microatx motherboards available? What's the chipset, am4?

>> No.72060146

>>72059576
>NAND is more likely to bit-flip when cold, not warm.
He-filled drives have a similar problem. More likely to diffuse through the seals when cold

>> No.72060185

>>72060140
Its am4, and you can even get mini-itx board for it. Honestly not a bad 1080p gaymer by itself.

>> No.72060230

>>72060018
Can you at least link me some benchmarks? I like gamers nexus but anyone worth a shit will do. These numbers are converted from frame time measurements and I'm not seeing anything that would indicate stuttering. Sounds like bs to me https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3489-amd-ryzen-5-3600-cpu-review-benchmarks-vs-intel

>> No.72060333

How much AA will I need for aliasing to be negligible on a 27' 1440p monitor?

>> No.72060338

>>72060333
2x SMAA or MSAA is sufficient.

>> No.72060349

Think I could get EVGA to upgrade my 2060 to a super for free?

>> No.72060427

Is £170 a good deal for 32gb of 3200mhz cas 16 ram. 4 X 8gb sticks? There are various brands all floating around this price at ccl. Is said ram suitable for a zen 2 3700x ?

>> No.72060461

>>72059368
where do you see one for that cheap? all of them on ebay are around $100

>> No.72060493

Are quality issues on the Asus PG279Q overstated or are things like backlight problems really that common? I don't trust the new LG monitor because my last TV from them died in 6 months.

>> No.72060499
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Anybody here have any experience with Gigabyte power supplies? I found a 750w on sale for $90 CAD and can't seem to find very much info on whether or not they make decent PSUs. https://www.gigabyte.com/Power-Supply/G750H#kf

>> No.72060528

If Corsair and G.Skill are to be avoided like the plague then which RAM should I go for?

>> No.72060542

>>72057718
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-PWTsc0lC8
>tfw delidded intards see Ryzen beat the shit out of intel
I just imagine those retards screeching over their shitty Razer Mics

>> No.72060550

1400p Samsung monitor that's 144Hz but has no freesync. What's a monitor like sans freesync at high refresh rates?

>> No.72060553

>>72060550
A lot more cost-effective than G-Sync, that I can speak from just price-tags alone

>> No.72060559

>>72060528
Corsair's not bad. I love my Corsair Vengeance RAM. If you want an alternative, Team Dark seems to make pretty good affordable RAM.

>> No.72060560

>>72060499
It's good. The reviews though are in Russian or other languages but all of them state that it's pretty good. I think it's low priced because no one really trusts the name so it's always in discount in Canada Computers.

>> No.72060564

>>72060560
Holy fucking shit another fucking leaf? Hooray!

>> No.72060568

>>72060493
>I don't trust the new LG monitor because my last TV from them died in 6 months.
That's what warranties are for. No guarantees an Asus monitor won't fail early either and need RMA'ing. I wouldn't spend good money on a monitor that was released back in 2015 now.

>> No.72060610

>>72060564
Yup. Also the PSU is semi-modular but that's not really an issue at that range.

>> No.72060631

>>72060610
Yeh. I mean I found my PSU (EVGA G3 550w 80+ Gold) for around that price, and it was full modular. Take some sales.

>> No.72060633

Did Nvidia's greed make them retarded? With how pathetic the 2080S turned out to be, do they honestly expect anyone with half a brain to buy the 20 series?

>> No.72060636

Are there any 4k 120hz monitors coming as good as the LG 27GL850 or ASUS VG32VQ?

I no longer see the point in not jumping to 4K with how well RIS works.

>> No.72060641

>>72060633
They do sadly. RTX was gonna be a bomb, I knew it right from the get go it was a scam for barely any gains.

>> No.72060645

>>72060633
>do they honestly expect anyone with half a brain
No one with half a brain was buying the 2080 non-S to begin with. The 2080S appeals to their brainless consumer base, as you seem to have half figured out already.

>>72060550
>What's a monitor like sans freesync at high refresh rates?
Fucking terrible.

>>72060349
lmao

>> No.72060662

Switched from an i5 to the 3700x on a b450 and I'm getting random freezes. Reports online are all over the place saying it could be the board, the ram, the voltages... And solid concrete way to troubleshoot it? Did to look for so I can diagnose and fix it?

>> No.72060667

>>72060560
Great, thanks. I didn't even know Gigabyte made PSUs so I was a little confused when the guy at CC recommended it to me, but I figured it was a safe bet.

>> No.72060673

>>72060427
Absolutely not, 2x8GB Ballistix LT of the same spec is $70 USD on amazon right now

>> No.72060674

>>72060662
What was your motherboard?

>> No.72060684

>>72059985
What did Casper the friendly ghost ever do to deserve this?

>> No.72060689

>>72060550
My monitor has freesync and I never use it because the corona artifacts are too noticeable and the overdrive isn't configurable. Still runs at 144hz and looks fantastic. I don't get screen tearing, both on games that run above 144 fps and games that run at 75 or 60.

>> No.72060698

>>72060674
B450 (ASRock). I cheaped out on the board because I'm a NEET.

>> No.72060707

>>72059368
2gb is 'enough' for certain things but leaves no headroom, if say you want to multitask a bit. I have an GTX 1050 plain but I've been futilely waiting for RTX 2060 or GTX 1660 prices to come down.

While that $50 could go toward a 1660, $250 is a long ways away from that.

>>72059897
>1440p on consoles
2k doesn't exist on the tv market, they skipped right to 4k. At best, consoles might upscale from 1440p

>> No.72060713

>>72060641
How long before they cave into a price drop for all 20 series cards? How many Nvidiots are there to keep giving them money to justify this shit? Not even a AMD drone but I'm glad their 5700XT is doing well. Been seeing it sold out on Amazon and Microcenter.

>> No.72060725

>>72060713
Nvidia's greed has blinded them from rationality. The only way you'll see lower prices, are from used cards and Amazon Warehouse sales

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I asked yesterday, but what are these, washers?

Came with some fans I bought.

>> No.72060732

>>72060698
Funny. ASRock makes good boards for the budget. At least you didn't get a Gigabyte motherboards, dear lord the VRMs are fucking atrocious to deal with.

>> No.72060735

>>72060461
would also like to know this

>> No.72060743

>>72060730
probably anti-vibration pads. Put them between the fan and the case before screwing the fan in.

>> No.72060751

>>72060730
They're probably pads for vibration dampening. You put them around the corners of the fans to decrease vibration noise from your fans.

>> No.72060762

>>72060725
RIP. Guess I'll be sticking with my 1070ti for years to come. Great card though.

>> No.72060768

>>72060732
I actually had GB with my i5 and yeah it was ass. Any advice on the freezing would be really appreciated it's pretty unusual.

>> No.72060774

>>72060662
>>72060698
What RAM did you get? Their cheaper boards are VERY picky, especially if you accidentally cheap RAM meant for Intel boards. Mine couldn't hit the XMP for 3000 MHz on my RAM (first mistake), but setting them to 2933 MHz, no other changes, and I completely stopped having problems.

>> No.72060778

>>72060762
1070 Ti = 2060. Literally the only way you can get significantly more performance is to buy a 2080 Ti

>> No.72060784

>>72059520
How loud is it?

>> No.72060796

>>72060762
I have a 1070, but I'm thinking of jumping onto an RX 5700 XT or 5800 XT should they even release that.

>> No.72060818

>>72060774
The ram is older DDR4 I had from during the RAM crunch a few years back. 2400MHz with the built in XMP profile.

>> No.72060841

>>72060818
Get RAM that works with your board. Look up your RAM compatibility on the mobo

>> No.72060844

>>72059471
you would lose any respect from anyone with any computer know how the moment they saw that little whirring pos.

>> No.72060845

>>72060818
I forgot to mention, update the bios. When I first updated the bios, the bluescreens were less frequent but still happening, then I did the frequency rate change.

>> No.72060858

>>72060796
bro the 5700 xt is only moderately faster than a 1070 certainly not worth the price for the upgrade

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>>72060645
>The 2080S appeals to their brainless consumer base

DON'T MOCK ME BITCH

>> No.72060872

someone post the motherboard chart with the power phases plox

>> No.72060874

>>72060667
It's good, It doesn't have all the extra stuff other psu's have but it works well.

>> No.72060879

>>72060841
Is there a good way to make sure it's the RAM before buying a new set? Maybe a keyword to look for in event logs or something that would indicate if there was a RAM timing issue for example?
>>72060845
I updated right when I got the board but it was the first bios rev that supported 3000 series so there might be a new revision. I'll look. Thanks for the advice lads.

>> No.72060902

>>72060879
I'm not sure. I just never had that issue. I'm gonna recommend on duckduckgoing that shit.

Fuck google

>> No.72060907

>>72060707
>2k doesn't exist on the tv market, they skipped right to 4k
They currently do upscaling of 1440p-1800p to 4k on consoles, you mong.

>>72060796
lol a larger navi die is obviously coming. This one is only 255mm^2 or something. The 2080Ti is 775mm^2 (or effectively around half that if it were 7nm as well).
It also appears that Navi doesn't have the 64CU limit of GCN, and that it's instead a 128CU limit. So we may even see a card that's significantly faster than the 2080Ti, and maybe even one that matches or come close to the 3080Ti. But I don't think so, on the later part, because even if it's technically possible I don't think AMD would think it makes business sense to as it's such a small market.

>>72060762
1070Ti was a good card, minus the proper dx12/vulkan/hdr support. 5700XT could be a decent upgrade, as it's +/- a 1080Ti, but yeah you're better off waiting for big Navi or Nvidia's 7nm if you want a more significant upgrade.

>>72060858
>1080ti is only moderately faster than a 1070
Imagine saying this with a straight face. Only a dumb shill can do that. 1070 is +/- 1660Ti performance, slower than Vega 56.

>> No.72060908

>>72058422
Obviously not if you're getting tripple digit fps on the most demanding game you play

>> No.72060921

>>72060907
Big or not, if it werks and blows the shit out of 1070, gimme

>> No.72060935

>>72060872
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/edit#gid=639584818

>> No.72060971

>>72058073
Don't buy a 9700K, either go 9900K or AMD.
There really isn't much of a purpose for the 9700K unless you exclusively play old games.

>> No.72060993

>>72060902
The term is Quacking anon. Just Quack it or I'll Quack up that article.

>> No.72060999

>>72060879
At least avoid speeds outside what the board recommends and go for even CL numbers.
Some ram makers even say their sticks are for Ryzen.

Also run a memcheck if you haven't already to double make sure it's the RAM. Not the windows shit, not sure if 10 added a proper checker that isn't useless. Sometime ago, some anons were talking about RAM overclocking autism and pointed to a tool called
>Ryzen DRAM Calculator
It also happens to have a decent memtest that'll run without needing a reboot or bluescreening if the RAM is returning incorrect data.
Or maybe there's a standalone version of the memtest.

>> No.72061036

>>72058954
Nice! I grabbed a 9900KF from Amazon last week for $420 and the z390 Aorus pro the had on sale from prime day. Loving it so far

>> No.72061051

>>72060999
Nice trips. Based advice, I'll look into that. Thanks again.

>> No.72061054

AMD is fucking trash

>> No.72061056

>>72060921
??? It already blows the shit out of it. The 5700 XT is over 50% faster than the 1070 and only uses slightly more power. It's as big as a jump as 2060S to 2080Ti is.

>>72060971
Even if you exclusively play games, the 3700X generally gives much better frametimes. Check Digital Foundry's review. Outside of the outlier Witcher 3 (which for some reason performed much differently for them than others. Others show the 3700X getting in the 165-200fps in that game), and even including that, their conclusion was that the 3700X was better even for pure gaming due to the consistently good and smooth performance.

>> No.72061071

>>72060993
Thanks. But I think it'd be used for a lot of minced oathes such as "Go Quack yourself"

>> No.72061105
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>>72060636
please respond

>> No.72061108

>install new PSU
>look up correct procedures, etc.
>learn that I had installed my old PSU incorrectly (fan facing in, instead of out towards vent)

....oops.

>> No.72061132

>3700x on idle
>cpu voltage is 1,43
Is this normal?

>> No.72061139

>>72061132
No

>> No.72061148

>>72061132
AMD products are still cheapo garbage, i think the performance numbers of Zen 2 have dazzled some of you into believing that they stopped cutting corners on EVERYTHING.

>> No.72061171

>>72061132

close all led tools if you have any
close nvidia geforce
close icue

set power plan to either ryzen balanced, or windows balanced with minimun cpu power to 85% and maximum to 100%

use cpu-z to read, most other tools are broken for this cpu

basically just try and close programs one by one to see which one does it

new info on july 30th where they will speak more about this

>> No.72061176

>>72061148
>t. delidded intard
Get bent Inshill

>> No.72061179

>>72061132
My 3600 is stuck at around 1,4V too but at least it runs perfectly fine except for that and high temps.

Didn't look into it enough when I bought the new parts, googled a bit but nothing much helped and from what I've heard so far it's a bios issue. I guess we're stuck with this shit until they finally fix it.

>> No.72061184

>>72061171
minimun cpu power to 85%
I have my Zen+ CPU at minimum 5%, is this bad? I haven't noticed any issues so far.

>> No.72061196

>>72061132
afaik it is normal. High voltage, at low amps. If you have a wall meter, you should see that the power consumption is still low.
You can cut it down by changing the Win10 power plan, I think. Do you have the latest chipset drivers, too?

I've seen a lot of people saying it was one program causing the high voltage, like an RGB tuning application like icue.

>>72061179
higher temps are due to the high density of the temps. Also a lot of people are doing paste wrong and it's not covering the edges where the dies actually area. The center method on Ryzen is bad.

>> No.72061217

>>72061184

not bad, this is just how the zen 2 seem to like it

besides, zen 2 works different in how it fluctuates voltage from what i have read and supposedly this is all normal behaviour anyways according to the amd rep over at leddit,as long as the voltage sometimes drops to below 1.0 even for just brief moments, even 0.9 is fine

but who really knows

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>>72061184
>>72061179
>>72061132

>> No.72061246

>>72060874
At 90 dollars (in Canada) it's cheap as fuck but at the original 120 it faces competition from lower wattage but newer PSU (the G750h is from 2016 so still recent). At 750w at it's price it's a decent gold budget PSU for SLI/CF or having leeway for more top end AMD cards but 550w or 600w are also good since most non-SLI/CF use cases won't breach it but currently not many are on sale.

>> No.72061266

>>72058954
AMD hates this one simple trick!

>> No.72061295

I'm new to PC building and while I read the op; I want to know. How strong does my soon to be computer will need to be if I intend to do high intensive shit in it like game development, testing, and 3D modeling?

Pls respond. I have no one to ask. I'm currently using a laptop which isn't enough for stuff like custom engines and unreal

>> No.72061433

>>72061295
What is your budget

>> No.72061567

building a server bros. needs ECC. only needs to serve files over NFS, seed torrents and run soulseek. Mobo needs capacity for 11 HDD's at least

What do for copu/mobo? ram,psu and case I can deal with later.

>> No.72061584

>>72061105
Nobody knows. IPS monitors seem to always have problems and you just have to cross your fingers and hope you get a good panel. No one dares recommend any for this reason.

>> No.72061622

Do I need an Intel Optane accelerator?

>> No.72061648

>>72057855
Spend too much money
Get worse performance

>> No.72061658

>have rtx 2060
>have 2600x

I'm pondering on getting a 3700x, albeit not sure if the 2060 will be able to make use of it or if i'll be just too gpu limited.

I do some animation work however but render times aren't really that big a problem thus far, albeit AE and have scenes do take some time.

>> No.72061659

>>72058397
>but been wanting to go nvidia this time
why? 5700xt is $100 less for ~2% difference in performance.
you really wanna pay 20% for 2% performance?

>> No.72061660

>>72060907
What's the problem with 1070ti Vulkan support?

>> No.72061661

>>72061659
Nope

>> No.72061670

>>72058499
>So your question is just irrelevant. It's like asking what the best cactus to stick up your asshole is. Ideally, you'd just not stick a cactus up your asshole.
kek'd
based dubs poster
>>72058737
>9600
>9600K
>9600K at 5.1
lol.
big difference between the three, bro.
even then, what, 4 fps? is that really worth the price hike?

>> No.72061675

>>72058954
nice reddit screencap
65c

>> No.72061708

>>72061567
RAID cards will give you all the capacity you need.
You can pull server shit off ebay for next to nothing.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-S3420GPLC-Server-Motherboard-w-Xeon-X3450-2-66-GHz-CPU-Processor-16GB/113793984573

>> No.72061709

>>72059350
None of the above.
>>72059368
Considering RX 570s and 580s are under $100, no, not worth the $50 at all.

>> No.72061710

only clowns bought the 3000 series ryzen cpus
still on 2600 waiting for 4000

>> No.72061722

>>72059504
I'm sorry, but that's your Nvidia® GeForce™ GTX 1060 6GB that's catching fire there.

>> No.72061726

>>72061710
>Only clowns bought the 4000 series Ryzen CPUs
>Waiting on the 5000 (that's the temperature in C)

>> No.72061734

>>72059783
>9600k
>gtx 760
But why? Do you at least have the 4gb version?

>> No.72061739

800 dollar gaming build?

>> No.72061745

>>72060018
>but it's not very efficient (at least it's not very inefficient like the RX580, either)
you can undervolt vega56 quite easily
mine pulls less from the wall than you'd expect

>> No.72061760

>>72061739
$120-$200ishr5-2600/3600
$100-$200ish rx 570/580
$50-$100ishb450 board
$150ish monitor
$100 for ssd and HDD
$20-$50ish case
$30-$50ish psu
you probably already have a keyboard/mouse

>> No.72061766

>>72061708
Thanks I didn't think of buying used server hardware. Anything in particular I should be aware of before I go scouring ebay?

>> No.72061778

>>72061739
r5 3600 and gtx 1660ti

>> No.72061811
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72061811

given the choice between
>new 5700XT blower-style
>used 1080ti
which one would you prefer? the 1080ti is 10-15% more expensive. Target resolution is 1440p 144Hz

>> No.72061815

who has 3600 and 5700? Do they run hot and loud?

>> No.72061816
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72061816

>>72061660
Doesn't support async compute which is a key part of the API. Not supporting all the features means it's not fully supporting it.

>>72059783
>9600k is fine when you have a $20 GPU that bottlenecks it so hard that it can't stutter
Bait?

>>72061739
$120 2600 and $230 1660ti.
Or spend a little more and get the 3600 and 5700.

>>72061745
And you can undervolt the 5700XT to have Vega 56 performance at only 90 watts. So it's still vastly more efficient.

>> No.72061821

>>72061811
1080ti

>> No.72061833

>>72061811
>10-15% more expensive for a USED card that performs the same as a cheaper NEW card but without better vulkan/dx12/hdr support, better features like RIS and antilag, lower input latency even without the antilag to begin with
how is this a question, anon?
But I'd wait for custom cards.

>>72061815
No, they are two of the most efficient components you can buy. 3600's stock cooler is pretty meh, though.

>> No.72061853

>>72061833

3600 x and 5700xd? Im building a pc for my borther and they are in the mail to collect after work monday. I am wondering if they do run hot, should I go over kill on case fans or not make much difference to individual components?

>> No.72061859

>>72061833
When are the custom cards supposed to come, and do you think they will cost the same?

>> No.72061889

>>72061859
>When are the custom cards supposed to come
mid august
> and do you think they will cost the same?
No. Probably $20-$40 more expensive. Still much better deals than 2060S/2070S.

>>72061853
having at least 2 intake fans is always good.
But are you sure that PC isn't overkill? Unless you're pairing it with a high refresh rate monitor, it is. Keep in mind the XT is +/- 1080ti performance, which is far more than most people need or can utilize.
The 5700 XT does run hot and loud under same cases. The 5700 doesn't, as it uses the same cooler while being significantly lower power.

>> No.72061914

>>72061889

Over kill maybe, but to late. Anyway it will last 5-6 years of relevance I guess. I dont want to have a noisy or problematic pc for him so i figured I might undervolt/retard it just a little bit if needed

>> No.72061926

Which runs hotter, the Intel i9-9900k or the Ryzen 9? Heat would make the CPU die faster, right?

>> No.72061980

>>72061132
Nothing to worry about. It's just intcel fear mongering. People have been running overclocked 2500k at 1.4V for years at that's on 32nm.

>> No.72061998

>>72061914
don't get the blower

>> No.72062034

>>72061998

Yeah too late. If its too noisy I will drop its power I guess

>> No.72062035

>>72061926
Ryzen runs hotter

Yeah, above like 80c it degrades faster. Get a 280mm or 360mm AIO or a big air cooler like NH-D15.

>> No.72062042

>>72062034
don't do that either

>> No.72062048

are the temps and voltages people are reporting for Ryzen actually dangerous for the components, or are they simply too high for the amount of performance you get?

>> No.72062059

>>72062048
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cbls9g/the_final_word_on_idle_voltages_for_3rd_gen_ryzen/

Your house is going to burn down unless you use liquid nitrogen to cool that baby.

>> No.72062063

>>72062042

If its noisy and hot do I do then?

>> No.72062155

I'm looking for a good X470 or X570 amd Mobo
But I'm finding relatively little info on which are more "linux compatible" than the others.
The 570 boards seem newer so have problems, all the 470 threads are over a year old and don't mention current conditions on which ones are stable

I'd be using Linux Mint

>> No.72062206

>>72062155
Honestly most boards should work.

>> No.72062223

>>72061816
Does the 1660 Ti even drop that to $230? The MSRP is $280, and it would absolutely infringe upon 1660 territory at $230.

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What did they mean by this?

>> No.72062250

Whats the difference between a B450 and the new x570 mobo ?
Is the x570 worth double the price ?

>> No.72062267

followup on my server question from before, how does this look?

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/INTEL-1400FP-BOARD-INTEL-CPU-XEON-E5-2407V2-SERVER-MOTHERBOARD/333002315143?hash=item4d887c1587:g:qRIAAOSwHGJcM8Nz

no memory, but ECC capable. I'm an ausfag pricing might be off. I

>> No.72062285

I bought a 3700x without getting a motherboard. (Yes I know I'm a fucking retard)
I was thinking of getting the B450 Tomahawk but due to people on l*ddit complaining about the BIOS not working properly and an MSI livestream where they said people should just buy the b450 tomahawk Max (which is supposedly the same as the Tomahawk but with updated BIOS), I don't want to buy from MSI until they fix their shit. Should I just wait or buy from another brand? I don't want to buy x570 boards since they're over $200 CAD.

>> No.72062294

>>72062250

Have a good look at the features and see if they compare to your hardware that you will plug in. No point crossfire compatibility unless you go crossfire, no point all those extra sata ports if you running a couple of drives, no point 6 usb ports unless your? doing something. Probably the b450 has everything you, but there are some BIOS issues with new Ryzen, maybe that doesnt effect you

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72062300

>perilously close to just throwing money at a 2080ti and being done with it all

Send help, all I have is a 3800x and a 1440p 144hz

>> No.72062310

>>72062300
Just get a 2070 Super or 5700 XT AIB model to be released in a few months. You won't hit 144Hz in your typical soulless lesbian walking simulator from big greedy corporation, but it should easily hit it for competitive shooters.

>> No.72062312

>>72062294
BIOS issues with new Ryzen ? I was planning on pairing it up with a R5 3600, will it not work out of the box ?

>> No.72062354

>>72062312

Need to update the BIOS for the 450 boards I hear. Maybe use the wifi or flsahback if it has it. Thats one reason I went for the 570 honestly

>> No.72062372

>>72062234
Those are organized by most popular, it becomes alphabetical if you expand the list.

>> No.72062381

>when you've got a 3600x in the mail but a b350 tomahawk in the PC

Please b350-chan you've got to pull through for me just a few more times.

>> No.72062407

>>72062381

gambatte

>> No.72062408

>>72057718
My vega 56 has hynix memory. By how much can I OC the memory for long term use? It's 800mhz stock.

>> No.72062411

Bit of a dumb question.

Just built my PC and have seen my temps going up a whole 10 degrees in speccy as of late when playing an online steam game. The game recently had a regular bug patch and the pc port isn't the best around. I haven't messed with my in game settings at all. And my idle temps aren't too different.

Is it possible that the latest patch is what is causing this raise in temperature? Is that a thing that is possible?
Or would you think it's just a summer heat thing + playing the game while it's hot = higher temps than normal

>> No.72062448
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72062448

So I'm building a $1500 rig and I wasted $60 dollars because I bought that fractal G mid tower case and didn't realize how fucking small it was gonna be with the parts I bought. Had to waste another $120 just buy this one. Also you guys got any recommendations on after market fans?

>> No.72062450

>>72062300
You already carelessly threw money on 3800x instead of getting the 3700x, or even better the 3600 as the differences in games between even the 3900x and 3600 are minimal. You won't hit the advertised boost clocks either way. Single core 4.3-4.4Ghz at 1.5V for a couple of seconds before the CPU throtles down to more managable 4.2Ghz is the best you can hope for and future proofing is a bad meme anyway. Plus, when games will really struggle at 6 cores your 3800x will be hopelessly outdated by then. It's not like the jump between single core and double core 15 years ago when games simply refused to boot on single core systems.

>> No.72062643

>>72061811
if you are playing older games, 1080ti, and try to knock him down 5-10% on the price.
if you are playing newer games, 5700xt no question.

>> No.72062654

>>72062035
>Ryzen runs hotter
factually incorrect.
same quality cooler, the i9-9900k runs a LOT Worse especially when OC'd.

>> No.72062666

>>72062300
3800x is the worst cpu you could buy in AMD's lineup, and the 2080ti is the worst GPU you can buy in NVIDIA's lineup, you should wait for big navi, and return your CPU for a 3700x you ignorant fuck

>> No.72062670

>>72062372
The 1660 Ti is actually popular despite its horrible name that I assumed would doom it to obscurity? Colour me surprised.

>> No.72062701

>>72062670
Well, you can't trust pc part picker. Very nvidia biased site. ;x

>> No.72062739

>>72062735
>>72062735
>>72062735
>>72062735

>> No.72062898 [DELETED] 

>>72056973
I didn't ask if I can do it, I have samsung memory. I asked which vega 64 bios goes on to the vega 56 pulse, considering it's non reference VRM.

>>72058819
LOL! Fucking hell, well mine doesn't have that thing, it's just a black bag with the shit inside. The paste looks the same consistency and color, same stickiness and everything.

>> No.72062918 [DELETED] 

>>72057901
>Who teh fuck made your card to begin with?
Sapphire.
>I replaced the stock past on a Sapphire RX580 Nitro+ with Kryonaut and got the exact same temps.
There is your mistake idiot, you used kryonaut, which is known to be scam paste that performs on the same level as stock TIM and worse than shit like MX-4 or Noctua NT-H1.
>So for some AIB partner to use worse paste than even MX-4, that's fucking sad.
Did you use it though? Because sounds to me you used scam kryonaut and instead of realising that it's as scam, though the stock TIM is great.

>> No.72063355

What's a good board for someone looking to get a locked 9700?

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