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>> No.71009294
File: 2.71 MB, 417x850, Inturd BTFOs itself.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]

>> No.71009329
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Intel eternally BTFO general?

>> No.71009375

Do you have photo from the same event, but different angle, which shows that AMD's booth was LITERALLY just a couple meters across from Inturd's booth? Now THAT is ETERNAL BTFO alright.

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>> No.71009470
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>> No.71009473
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Holy shit guyse, just look at this. Inturd is fucking DESTROYED, UTTERLY OWNED IN THE ASS WITH NO LUBE WHATSOEVER by this BASED Australian not-Adored. Effing subscribed to the dude, just because of this.

>> No.71009485

RIP in pieces shitel

>> No.71009491
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>not posting it the only correct why
This is the third time by now that I have to correct your mistake. When will you learn? If you wish to post it, just post the pic-related next time.

>> No.71009668

We got any rough idea on how much the Ryzen 3000 line will cost on launch?

>> No.71009725

I thought coal was coming back?

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>> No.71009777

yes those too

>> No.71010009

Gotta love waiting 20+ years for intel to not be a pozzed shit

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>> No.71010937

You're missing on the point.

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>> No.71011218

Are there any good laptop lines that use amd?

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>> No.71011931

That's old, no?

>> No.71011949
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>> No.71012074

Absolutely brutal. I am glad my home vidia machine havent seen update since 2014. So i wont be affected.

>> No.71012924
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Not yet:

>> No.71013440
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>> No.71015519

dear lord, i've made such a big mistake

>> No.71016769

>Poorfag countries buy Inturd CPU's
Who knew!

>> No.71016862

It doesn't even make sense since I live in a poorfag country and AMD is far better value but the top sellers are still a mix of intlel and AMD.

>> No.71016891

it's fake

>> No.71017194

It's just a SYNTHETIC test. You won't notice anything in REAL LIFE. Games load as fast as before...

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>> No.71017688

Define good.

>> No.71017708

I've made similar tests on Debian 9.
# uname -a
Linux Microserver2 4.9.0-8-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.144-3.1 (2019-02-19) x86_64 GNU/Linux

# egrep 'bugs|CPU|mips' /proc/cpuinfo
model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E31230 @ 3.20GHz
bugs : cpu_meltdown spectre_v1 spectre_v2 spec_store_bypass l1tf
bogomips : 6385.51

Prime 95:
Small FFTs:
[Worker #4 May 18 22:55] Beginning a continuous self-test on your computer.
[Worker #4 May 18 23:09] Self-test 25K passed!
[Worker #4 May 18 23:09] Test 1, 720000 Lucas-Lehmer in-place iterations of M580673 using AVX FFT length 28K, Pass1=448, Pass2=64, clm=1.
14 minutes to complete 25K

[Worker #4 May 18 23:16] Beginning a continuous self-test on your computer.
[Worker #4 May 18 23:33] Self-test 4K passed!
[Worker #4 May 18 23:33] Test 1, 76000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M4028769 using AVX FFT length 200K, Pass1=640, Pass2=320, clm=1.
17 minutes to complete 4K

Before patches, take note.

# uname -a
Linux Microserver2 4.9.0-9-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.168-1+deb9u2 (2019-05-13) x86_64 GNU/Linux

# egrep 'bugs|CPU|mips' /proc/cpuinfo
model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E31230 @ 3.20GHz
bugs : cpu_meltdown spectre_v1 spectre_v2 spec_store_bypass l1tf mds
bogomips : 6385.22
+ latest intel-microcode

Small FFTs:
[Worker #4 May 19 02:47] Beginning a continuous self-test on your computer.
[Worker #4 May 19 03:01] Self-test 25K passed!
[Worker #4 May 19 03:01] Test 1, 720000 Lucas-Lehmer in-place iterations of M580673 using AVX FFT length 28K, Pass1=448, Pass2=64, clm=1.
14 minutes to complete 25K

[Worker #4 May 19 03:07] Beginning a continuous self-test on your computer.
[Worker #4 May 19 03:23] Self-test 4K passed!
[Worker #4 May 19 03:23] Test 1, 76000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M4028769 using AVX FFT length 200K, Pass1=640, Pass2=320, clm=1.
16 minutes to complete 4K

After patches.

>> No.71017740

So may I ask you, where's that drastic hit? Granted, Prime95 log does not show seconds, but even if we count minutes to complete, the result isn't twice as long. I have to note that of course Prime95 does not test file operations, this is purely a CPU/RAM benchmark.

>> No.71017766

>entire world currently reports on Inturd turning into a pumpkin after all the """""(((mitigations)))"""""
>this stupid retard calls entire world fakes and produces BS

>> No.71017829

Phoronix benchmark shows lower results in mixed workloads, only one of them, Postgres, is somehow real world, familiar to me and it contains file operations. The stupid retard is you because you don't even try to disprove my claims, you throw a fit right at the moment when there is some information which does not demonstrate how Intel CPUs are bad now.

>> No.71017855
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Kys yourself, Intbecile.

>> No.71017861
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Holy shit, you're a total fucking moron. Absolute cretin:

>> No.71017875

ok fuck this shit
my next laptop will be amd

>> No.71017889

What is "full migitation"? Does it include disabling HT? Why >>71009294 results are halved despite the fact that i5-8400 does not have HT?

>> No.71017917
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I know this is bait but in reality coal never left.
We used to have it produce heat directly into our homes, now we burn it out in the coutryside and only bring its energy into cities so we use it for everything, sometimes heat included.
electric heating is the most inefficient heating btw.

>> No.71017922
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>mfw intel is unironically dying

>> No.71017924

Care to test things by yourself instead of appealing to authorities?

>> No.71017947

Eat shit and die, you piece of retarded reality-denying, Jude's dirty limp cock-sucking Intoddler.

There are (((patches))) that are distributed through OS update feature, these are only simple measure and considered "partial mitigations", while the full one is when you're applying both the OS update (((patches))) and also the BIOS microcode """""fixes""""" altogether at once. The biggest hit is after the latter one, usually.

>Why halved if 8400 doesn't have HT
It's not a real 6 core, it's a 4 core with one (fifth) core disabled and HT enabled secretly. But that's not even the point, because Zombieload and Fallout "fixes" don't affect just HT, but performance in overall nonetheless, even on CPUs that actually don't have HT at all. The performance hit is not only because of HT.

>> No.71017957
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>> No.71017982

That's exactly what anon did in >>71009294, you piece of cocksucking autistic shit. This is not a test from some media outlet, but a personal test done by one of the anons in the previous thread.

>> No.71017992
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>if only you knew how bad things really are

>> No.71018020

> It's not a real 6 core, it's a 4 core with one (fifth) core disabled and HT enabled secretly.
OK, now we're going full conspiracy. I don't even know how to argue with the one who goes full REEEE to the point of mental disability and starts posting "funny pictures xD" to reinvigorate the point of intel being bad.
This is not the point. I did my tests, I saw Phoronix tests, I need more tests to understand performance degradation with HT enabled. "Up to 40% because HT is disabled" isn't the answer.

>> No.71018021


So random guy posted something on 4channel and we're supposed to believe it? Lol.

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>> No.71018054

The "random guy" provided proofs alongside those tests, you cocksucking piece of Intbecillic shit. It was done in real time as he was posting in the thread.

>> No.71018058

Well, skewed sample is still a sample. I have one Windows PC and will test on it as well.

>> No.71018067
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Here's a fresh one specially for you, cocksucker:

>> No.71018118

> ctx_clock
Do you understand what does it mean and when it means performance degradation in real life scenarios?

>> No.71018137

It means "Intrash" is not a meme anymore.

>> No.71018166
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>DUUURRRRR, Postgre is the only thing I care about

>> No.71018453
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>> No.71018646

Benchmarks don't matter now

>> No.71018874

>>entire world currently reports on Inturd turning into a pumpkin after all the """""(((mitigations)))"""""
i don't care, werks on my machine

>> No.71018985

>Core2Duo number 1
*click* *pshhh* ahh, now that's a CPU

>> No.71019154

Stop posting antisemitic benchmarks

>> No.71019196

Go back to Babylon.

>> No.71019431

Shut the fuck up goy.

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>> No.71020900
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>> No.71020939
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BASED checks.

>> No.71021185

The state of Intel in 2019

>Multi-core doesn't matter!
>Productivity doesn't matter!
>Price/performance doesn't matter!
>Performance per watt doesn't matter!
>Power usage doesn't matter!
>Temperatures don't matter!
>Soldered dies don't matter!
>Stutters don't matter!
>Streaming doesn't matter!
>Data centers don't matter!
>Locked CPUs don't matter!
>OEMs don't matter!
>Hyperscalers don't matter!
>Upgradeability doesn't matter!
>Anti-competitive business practices don't matter!
>Locked platform features don't matter!
>Synthetic loads don't matter!
>PCI-e lanes don't matter!
>Burnt pins don't matter!
>Heat doesn't matter!
>1771w cooler doesn't matter!
>Server space doesn't matter!
>ECC support doesn't matter!
>Free RAID doesn't matter!
>NVMe RAID doesn't matter!
>StoreMI doesn't matter!
>IPC doesn't matter!
>7nm doesn't matter!
>StoreMI doesn't matter!
>HEDT doesn't matter!
>Stock coolers don't matter!
>Security doesn't matter!
>Games don't always matter!
>Enterprise doesn't matter!
>Hyperthreading doesn't matter!
>VMware doesn't matter!
>MySQL doesn't matter!
>Unix doesn't matter!
>Linux doesn't matter!
>Waffer yields don't matter!
>Benchmarks after full patches don't matter!
>Asian markets don't matter!
>Own fabrics doens't matter!
>Chipset lithography doesn't matter!
>Cray doesn't matter!
>Cisco doesn't matter!
>HPE doesn't matter!
>AZURE doesn't matter!
>5nm doesn't matter!
>TDP doens't matter!
>10nm doesn't always matter!
>Cache doesn't matter!
>Integrated graphics doesn't matter!
>PCI-Express 4.0 doesn't matter!
>Germany doesn't matter!
>Processors doesn't matter!
>Custom Foundry Business doesn't matter
>Framerate doesn't matter!
>Amazon sales don't matter!
>Prime95 AVX doesn't matter!
>*NEW* Large corporations don't matter!
>*NEW* Your DATA doesn't matter!
>*NEW* Context switch duration doesn't matter!

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>> No.71022088

I benched on a 8750h and only sequential reads went down everything else went actually up. Did 6 runs on each with a restart in between.

>> No.71022134

And things like cinebench, firestrike, 7-zip stayed the same.

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>> No.71022608

>Jude tries to fool people into """""(((updating)))"""""
Color me surprised.

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>> No.71023950

Dubs of.

>> No.71024054
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AMD's processors are immune to the latest round of vulnerabilities, and its users also don't need to turn off Simultaneous Multi-Threading (or SMT), because AMD processors do not have any known security faults when SMT is enabled.

>> No.71024673
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>When you think your old ass CPU is about to become completely irrelevant but it turns out Intel has been pozzed forever so the performance delta shrinks a shitload

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>> No.71024981

What shit do you have that you NEED to rely on Inturd fucking up royally TWICE IN A ROW, for modern Inturd poocessors to tie with yours?

>> No.71025141
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>not knowing about that FX-8350 single thread life

>> No.71025171

Too bad Ryzen is still awful on laptops. Like twice the idle power of Kaby Lake. Why the fuck are APUs a generation behind again? We need 7nm APUs stat

>> No.71025367

I know that SOME FXs weren't entirely bad, but I though you had garbage shit such as 8120 or 8150, Faildozer.

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>> No.71025396

If AMd had released the 8350 back in 2011, it would've been extremely competitive despite the terrible ipc, the 8350 performs 15% better than an 8150 that came out only a year before and puts out a bit less heat.

>> No.71025567
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Found it, /g/uyse:

>> No.71025576

When did AMD get so cheeky? I got a kick out of the "This is FXing serious" but it actually is now.

>> No.71025583
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It started here (these are 2016 ads in US airports):

>> No.71026794

More believable than media jews paid off to sell intel.

>> No.71026802

wrong so wrong.

>> No.71027819

Should I be safe if I still use a i5-2500K?

>> No.71027925
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I don't even have a serious stake in either company and might as well have chosen AMD on a coin flip, but the knowledge that I've dodged such a huge bullet is very pleasing.
I think my only reason for picking it as my first processor all those years ago was just that I preferred the idea of the pins being on the CPU rather than the motherboard.

>> No.71028163
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Wow suddenly my FX-8350 is now faster than IntLEL and what's worse is this is at stock clocks.

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>> No.71028611
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>> No.71028832

Because I also have a sandy bridge and my SSD speeds are fucked

>> No.71028881

9900k is the most sold one in Sweden. Makes sense.

>> No.71028904
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Post yfw Ryzen

>> No.71028911

/g/ is literally never wrong
So fucking glad I went with zen
2700x now and forever

>> No.71028930

Ok, this is Epyc.

>> No.71028947

/g/ is always right about Intel jews.

>> No.71028974

I knew about ime for years turns out all the leaks where true especially from insiders within Intel and ex employees saying the company will tank

>> No.71029017

I'm waiting for Dell latitude 7000s or thinkpad ryzen to upgrade laptop

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>> No.71029056
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>> No.71029213

Now put on updates and patches quick! Post results here.

>> No.71029240

You reckon there are updates for a nine year old CPU?

>> No.71029268

Spectre and meltdown affects all intel CPUs 8th gen and lower.

>> No.71029275

Not him, but >>71009294 results are BS
CPU-Z bench is pretty much unaffected (1% decrease at worst for me)

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>> No.71029509

Amdshills don't give a crap about legit results, they just keep echoing fake bullshit

>> No.71029534

I wasn't going to buy that pozzed garbage anyway, wtf is wrong with you

>> No.71029632

Makes too much sense.

>> No.71029777

Gotta love waiting 20+ years for intel to not be a pozzed shit

>> No.71029993

god i love being pozzed !!!!!

>> No.71030489

Everything is fucked all the way back to the Bentium 4.

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>> No.71030542

Can I have the link a benchmark?

>> No.71030572


See >>71011949.

>> No.71030612
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>Second half of 2019
>Nehalem, and not a top one to the boot

>> No.71030629
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>> No.71030693

Can I have the link a benchmark?

>> No.71030759

I give it 3 years max before 5nm euv comes along and stomps on it

>> No.71030977

Zen 2 is right around the corner, dumbo.

>> No.71031011

Z2 isn't even 7nm+ euv tho it will get stomped by 5nm++

>> No.71031035

Even gen1 7nm is already showing to be good enough to warrant an upgrade from 2700X to a Zen 2 3700~3800X.

>> No.71031078

Not for me Id rather get a upgrade from my 2080ti so I could run 4k without dropping settings at 100hz+
Can't even handle 3k 100fps

>> No.71031111
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>> No.71031133

>you were once a part of a global 5 year long pump and dump scheme essentially "long shorting" AMD

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>> No.71031184

>"I'm going to retire early on the valuation of these shares!'
Ahhahaha, ahahahahahaha, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.71031242
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>> No.71031751

Can I have the link a benchmark?

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>> No.71031815

>OP and amdrones post fake benchmarks
>can't post the sauce

>> No.71031872
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>Fake benchmarks
Typical reality-denying Intbecile in a nut, l/a/dies and /g/entlemen.

>> No.71031910
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source of pic related please

>> No.71031928

>op bench is not fake

You are clueless

>> No.71032053

The upper pic I don't know (I've just copied it from previous thread), but the lower one was made by anon in the previous thread and he provided proofs alongside it.

>> No.71032097

Australians irl shitposting.

>> No.71032212

>electric heating is the most inefficient heating
Electric resistance heat is 100% efficient if you're talking about the socket efficiency. If you're talking about the total system efficiency, well it depends on where the power comes from. If you're 40% nuclear, 50% modern natural gas, and 10% hydro/solar/wind then you're doing pretty damn good. If 50% of your power is from a shit coal plant with no waste heat recovery, then you're doing pretty badly. But say you were on 100% combined cycle natural gas vs using gas to heat your home directly. With generation and system losses, each joule of potential energy from the plant gas would be about 0.5 joules delivered to your home, or 50% efficient. Burning it directly could get you as high as 90%, that's pretty good. But hold on, that's if you're using electric resistance heat. Heat pumps are a thing, and they're pretty amazing. In a reasonable climate, you can take that 0.5 joules and move 1.3 to 1.6 joules of heat with it. Hard to beat 130% efficiency!

>> No.71032307

All my DC customers turn off mitigations
CSPs care a little but already provision guests in tiered performance that swallow the mitigation losses

>> No.71032324
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>test it yourself
>lmao why would we trust a test you ran yourself

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God I FXing love this old processor.

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Warm winters?

>> No.71033822

Despite the memes, not really, at least not at 1.4v, 59c is the highest overall seen on prime95 AVX, and it's even lower under a regular handbrake transcode

>> No.71033966

Try AIDA 64 FPU.

>> No.71034009

I've used aida, it really doesn't put any more load than cinebench or a normal render, my system won't even crash on aida on voltages that are way too low for my clock speed, but prime just sucks so much power it will crash if the voltage isn't enough.

>> No.71034046

AIDA 64 FPU is the most hardest stress-test in the world, it literally tries to burn your system the flying fucks out.

>> No.71034139

If that's the case I lol try to lower my core but passing small fat is good for 24/7 use.

>> No.71034304

There's also Linpack, but it's been dead-in-the-water and irrelevant for years.

>> No.71034416

Fucking 4 times longer than ryzen, wtf.
Is this real?
This will kill VM performance in certain configurations.

>> No.71034445

>Is this real?

>> No.71034453

Virtual machines don't matter anon, only fortnite.

>> No.71034542
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Bruh, it's looking like Zen 2 is going to annihilate it already. If Zen 3 goes tall stacking on top of the dies, then we're going to see another big jump even if they keep core counts the same.

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can't, motherboard vendor hasn't even released updates yet lmao


I had to disable HT to even get the L1TF fault mitigation bit to flip to true

>> No.71034650

>I had to disable HT


>> No.71034664

no shit retard I have an intel chip

>> No.71034693

>Deliberately and unironically buys any Inturd after Sandy
>Dares to call someone a retard on the internet
The irony is so T H I C C that I can literally cut through it with an axe.

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>> No.71034847

this has to be bullshit, i can't believe it

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>> No.71034863


cringe to be honest

>> No.71034879

because they like to get cucked?

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>> No.71034909

Why? It's funny. It's like corporate level show wrestling trash talk.

>> No.71034961

this is a work machine you absolute dipshit

>> No.71034979

>3fps less in fortnite

oh noes, how am i gonna survive this

go shill your cheap amd crap on /b/, we on /g/ have better taste and knowledge

>> No.71034985

nah, i feel like they could have come up with something more witty

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Then you're even MORE of an utter Intbecile.

>> No.71035001

apparently it's working

my CISO just told the CTO that we're migrating to ARM for frontend and AMD x86 backend

what a clusterfuck this is going to be

>> No.71035003

Heavy performance loss in server and enterprise means your gaymen's servers are being affected too, you dumb fuck.

>> No.71035016

>people who work with Intel computers at work all buy them because they have choice

you are a useless, retarded NEET. stop fucking posting

>> No.71035032

>we're migrating to ARM for frontend
RasberryPies as frontend?

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>> No.71035080

AWS arm instances

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AWS is fully moving to EBYN, though.

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>> No.71035208


really? will they just dump their own ARM processor?

>> No.71035252

That's still in development and won't be fully finished anytime sooner than 2020 at the earliest.

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>Intel inside, better cloud services outside. >>71013355

>> No.71035575

It's all fake fakefakefakefaekfakakkkfaeakf

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>> No.71035729

So can the microcode be unpatched? Is it just a matter of reflashing the bios or is it more complex?

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>> No.71035882

I don't see how that answers his question

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>> No.71036005

Rolling back a bios update may effect the cpu's current microcode but that would take a lot of testing to know how or even if it even does.

I don't know if anyone has even tried, though google would probably show otherwise.

>> No.71036013

UEFI/BIOS is what updates the microcode bud

>> No.71036047

the question is would the IME allow them to downgrade the microcode though.

>> No.71036076

> may effect
Microcode is just a binary which is applied during boot. In Linux, it is applied before booting, through initrd.

>> No.71036107

not likely

but if you find a board that doesn't have an update IME you might be able to

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>> No.71036202

>Please give me the intel viruses I paid for EVIL MICROSOFT

>> No.71036834
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>tfw iToddlers who bought an 8400 instead of a 2600 are getting cucked left and right and are now slower than FX chips

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>meanwhile, 8400 costs more than 2600 and has worse RAM spec than Zen+
>and then there's this:

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>iToddlers who bought an 8400
iToddlers buy Inturd applel laptops, not desktop poocessors.
I think you've meant Intoddlers. Different kind.
As for iToddlers in particular...there's this - https://wccftech.com/intel-mds-vulnerabilities-affecting-7th-gen-and-below-may-slow-macs-by-up-to-40-apple-warns

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>> No.71037340

where are proofs

>> No.71037382

Bro the fuckin chips are pozzed, just buy a B350 board with a 6 core, accept Intel sucks ass and move on.

>> No.71037402

beat my single core first, shill

>> No.71037425

Your non pozzed score? or the pozzed one?

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>> No.71037545

obviously it's fake, do the test youself

>> No.71037568

Revese cycle refrigeration (Heat Pumps) gets up to 400% efficiency compared with electric resistance heat so long as it's above freezing outside.

>> No.71037776

It's you again (that underage retard who was utterly BTFO'd in one of the previous breads).

>> No.71037841

poor countries have worse education & everyone's an idiot thus bring in no money & repeat
circle of life

>> No.71037857

>tfw I'm using this particular XPS13.
Fuck am I supposed to do now? I want a thinkpad but those are Intel too.

>> No.71037888

Well Intelis still dominant on the laptop so you're fine, but they're fucking kill on the desktop, it's absolutely insane.

>> No.71037907

400% is when there's a zero or negative differential. Practically, you'll get an average of 200% from the meter efficiency.

>> No.71037908

Wait for Zen 2 mobile APUs next year?

>> No.71037928

>I want a thinkpad

--> >>71011949.

>> No.71037948

nothing, there's no performance impact, never listen to /g/ marketing team

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lel hack me niggers, betcha can't

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Reminder that 2000 series APUs were Zen and 3000 series APUs are going to be Zen+. We won't see Zen 2 in quite a while. Buying a laptop right now isn't the best desu, I'd rather wait for mobile 8 core with Navi GPU on a small frame.

>> No.71038313

why wait


>> No.71038427

Zen+ is good too.

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>> No.71038534

>tfw bought 9900k because tired of waiting
Once again, waitfags were right. Never should have stopped listening to them. Now I need to refund this shit.

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>> No.71038621

>Chip barely beats a 2700X with more power used and it's $500
>Now we find out Microsoft and bioses are patching out performance so your CPU won't be vulnerable

>> No.71038626

Because I'm a gaymer retard.

>> No.71038652

you're returning a 9900k?

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Alrighty you go for it lol

>> No.71038691

Yeah, I basically paid extra for a 9700k.

>> No.71038693

Not sure what's up with that low but a server CPU playing racing games at 181.3fps sounds pretty damn dope desu, and it's clearly not even meant for that, being a TR4 chip and all.

>> No.71038696

>A chart made even before Spectre/Meltdown """(((fixes)))"""
>AMD CPUs were paired with slows-as-hell RAM

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>Not sure what's up with that
Paired with shitty slow RAM and also take into consideration these
>*AMD system has lower Average FPS than Intel system, but much higher Minimal FPS, and Minimal FPS is the only thing that actually matters for absolutely butter-smooth playing experience because Average and Max metrics fluctuate
>**AMD system's FPS was noted while the system was also streaming played gaming content in absolutely maxed out state and uncompressed highest bitrate online WHILE also recording that same video completely uncompressed on the local storage, while Intel system immediately choked itself and started stuttering badly with constant drops to single digit FPS due to absolute inability of handling such kind of a multi-tasking workload

>> No.71039001

butter smooth 30fps

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See >>71036869.

>> No.71039091

That moore's law is dead guy put it perfectly when he said Intel has lost the CPU war, and that it's gonna take people a long time to realize and accept it, AMD could make cheaper chips that use less power while throwing blows or beating intel (oh wait they are) and people will still say it doesn't matter.

>> No.71039094

>low tier intel has same perf as high tier ryzen

>> No.71039113

So, what's the best amd chip to switch to?

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>i5 8400
>Low tier
The 8400 costs more Anon, and the price of the 2600 is closer to the price of an i3 8100, a 65 quad core chip that's not nearly as powerful as a 6 core 2600.

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Woah I had no idea they had an i3 8300, that is another quad core chip they sell for more than a 6 core Ryzen 2600.

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>> No.71039177

Holy shit, the last time I've checked it was only something like 20$...dude, THAT is fucking YEOWCH alright. This >>71039094 kid is a fucking MORON, absolute-fucking CRETIN.


And the saddest thing about all this is there are STILL a fuckton lot of utter IMBECILES that'll buy into Inturd's PR BULLSHIT LIES, LITERAL FAKE NEWS, and would pay for that TRASH of theirs.

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>> No.71039201

are this ones good at least for gayming after the patches? fuck, I need to buy something, like now, and a laptop too, I fucking hate intel

>> No.71039215

Buy 2700X, upgrade easily to Zen 2 later when/if you feel it.

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>> No.71039296

If you're on tight budget - 2600X currently, with upgrade options to 3600G, 3700/X, and 3800/X later.
If you can spend just a tiny bit more - 2700X.
If you don't wish to buy this gen and wait a couple months for Zen 2, then just wait for October and get the full package (Zen 2 3600G~3800X, a B550 or X570 mobo, and a Navi).

Also, instead of installing Shitblows 10 on that system, better just get and install easy-to-use Linux distro such as Manjaro, MX, or Zorin, and then just use Steam with Proton wrapped over it. Back in the 2018 when Proton only appeared, Steam had only roughly 600-some games listed as officially and fully supported (meaning FPS performance not lesser than on Windows and no new Linux-specific bugs or glitches), yet just a couple days ago they released a new report after all the testing people did through the entirety of the year and...Proton is now currently fully supporting 5000+ (5006 to be exact) individual titles. Linux HAS GAEMS. And that's just what been tested and confirmed for fully working (full functionality, including peripherals support such as Dualshock 4/X-Box pads, keyboards, headphones, and etc) thus far, obviously much more will come in the near future.

>> No.71039342

mm how are nvidia drivers working on linux lately? is nvidia bumblebee still a mess?

>> No.71039376

>how are nvidia drivers working on linux lately?
Utter garbage.
"AMD drivers bad on Linux" was a stupid meme for some time, but situation reversed drastically when AMD gone open source with programs such as ROCm and etc. It's now noVideo that's garbage shit, while Radeon's drivers on Linux been pretty good for quite some time now.
What should be noted, though, is that all Radeon video card past/newer than the RX 580, require Linux distro with a kernel of version 5.0 at the very least, because 4.19 doesn't support RX 590 and more newer cards.

>> No.71039395

>Utter garbage.
oh really? I remember being pretty good, how times change

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>how are noVideo drivers working on Linux lately
>I remember being pretty good

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>> No.71040823

>tfw this is likely real because of the 8400's low clock speed of 2.8ghz
Imagine spending 200 bucks on a cpu only to be cucked by a 75 dollar meme 8 core cpu.

>> No.71040884

so where are the video game benchmarks, you know the shit people actually buy intel for.

>> No.71041029

is it really good marketing to put your competitors brands on display?

>> No.71041959

>play dirty by building insecure CPUs that are faster than the competition
>also make your compiler show the competitor's CPUs much weaker than yours, compiler that is used by big companies for their popular software
>get told to pay for unfair competition. pay peanuts, if that
>years later people discover that your CPUs were indeed VERY insecure
>"solution: disable HT"
>keep not giving a shit about real security
>people will still buy your shit

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>tfw just bought a used 8700k for a good price
>should've bought into the Poozen meme

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>> No.71042771

>people will still buy your shit
You mean rabid Intel fanboys.

>> No.71042817

What sucks is intel still has pretty damn good ultrabook chips like the 8550U, a 15w chip that outperforms a 2200G, they'll always exist, but on the desktop, they're not viable at the moment.

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Love me some 6x slower context switching.

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Also RIP datacenters. Databases got shreckt the hardest by this.

>> No.71043094

Context switching doesn't matter

Datacenters don't matter

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>HT doesn't matter

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*Laughs in housefire*

>> No.71043125

The absolute state of intlel shills.

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> Context switching doesn't matter

Let's go back to the good old days where you could run one single-threaded application at a time!

Especially now that games finally started to be mostly multi-threaded, thanks to modern engines.

> Datacenters don't matter

Yeh it's like just 25% of Intels income. They don't need it, r-right?

>> No.71043720

Housefires don't matter

>> No.71044046

Games don't matter
Multithreading doesn't matter
Income doesn't matter

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>> No.71044288

More cores always wins baby

>> No.71044294

that would make PooMD look bad so they can't lol

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Shill would imply they do it for money. They're closer to scatfags at this point, gladly getting pozzed and fucked in the arse and consuming the shit intel produces

>> No.71044425

But were they actually good or just good when compared to the abysmal official driver support on Linux back in the day? Seems like they're comfortable putting together a driver just so they can say the support is there but then not putting that much work into it. In stark contrast Radeon's driver support on Linux is often even better than on Windows, especially for new products.

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>> No.71044480

you got this without the graph in the back?

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>> No.71044529

thanks bud

>> No.71044539


--> >>71036869. Enjoy your buttmad, Intbecile.

>> No.71044833

fuck you goy buy intel

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>buy Inturd

>> No.71044956

Wait wait wait wait
So you're telling me you can create 2 joules of energy out of 1 joule of energy? What's going on here?

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You will pay for this, goy

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>> No.71047279

What's happening?

>> No.71047451

why is Europe so based?

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Lower is better

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Indeed it is:

>> No.71047775

Wow. Much spaceheater. Hyberbibelines :DDD

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>> No.71048176

Ryzen 7nm 16 core 4200+ Cinebench score

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New bread.


New bread.

>> No.71048431

Why the fuck does this need another thread? Leave it be, almost everyone saw it and there's nothing else to discuss.

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>> No.71048477

Case in point. It's humorous, but you're beating it to the Earth's core. Give it some time, we're bound to have even more vulnerabilities this year.

>> No.71048483

>laugh at intel general #746

>> No.71048511

There's new things added - Adored's new TV and other stuff.

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