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https://www.tomshardware.com/news/cox-elite-gamer-internet-fast-lane,39176.html

And so it begins.

>> No.70693861

corporate shills will defend this

>> No.70693917

>>70693801
so is it like wtfast?

>> No.70693923 [DELETED] 

Lel. It barely took a few months after the law came into effect.

>> No.70693925
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It didn't have to be this way.

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>>70693801
Lmao, in the land of the free, you should be free to fuck you're customers' shit up sir. Pls do the needful and pay.

>> No.70693940

Lel. It barely took a few months after the repeal came into effect.

>> No.70693943

>>70693801
>having to pay for proper routing
USA USA USA

>> No.70693983

>milking gamers, the only demographic that will spend more on garbage than Apple users

>> No.70693984

this is what freedom is like, you're free to pay more to actually get anything
USA FOR AFRICA

>> No.70693996

>>70693801
I hope they use RGB cables for the gaming tubes

>> No.70694001

>those conservatards who said “SEE, BANNING NN DIDNT DO ANYTHING!”

>> No.70694019

>>70693983
No, gaming is the cheap hobby of the masses, nowhere as expensive as owning Apple computers.

That's probably why service providers for the masses expect to be able to get $15/month- it's a not so huge luxury for the lower and middle class, they'll probably pay. Up-marketing them comes later.

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>>70693801
10 DOWN AND 1 UP IS ALL YOU NEED

>> No.70694065

>>70693861
I will. Cox is without a doubt the best ISP I've ever had. I live in Phoenix and their gigablast is costs me $60 a month and on the past three years I've only had their service go down a handful of times.

>> No.70694072

America will never be a socialist country, remember?
Enjoy getting screwed by monopolies.

>> No.70694110

But what does this do? Placebo right?

>> No.70694128

Gaymers are retarded. They buy shit like this
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/audioquest-diamond-6-6-high-speed-hdmi-cable-dark-gray-blue/2383319.p?skuId=2383319&ref=212&loc=1&ref=212&loc=1&gclsrc=aw.ds&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=CjwKCAjwtYXmBRAOEiwAYsyl3Ce-eG9i2o9o3d1W8AL5BI4iSk2Hco2smFljXrEIKbrSqfiOy3rK8BoCFbEQAvD_BwE

>> No.70694131

>>70694051
10 bit/hour, right

>> No.70694144

>>70693801
good. im gonna buy it cause cox is a fantastic isp.

>> No.70694149 [DELETED] 
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Fucking Putin.

>> No.70694152

>>70694128
That's audiophiles

>> No.70694153 [DELETED] 
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b-but he's still [our guy], right?

>> No.70694154

>>70694128
>Calls anyone else retarded
>Posts a link like that

>> No.70694156

>>70693925
STALLMAN WAS RIGHT ONCE AGAIN

>> No.70694159

>>70693801
imagine having shit tier slow ass american internet then your isp tries to milk you to make your connection less jittery rofl.

>> No.70694170

>>70694154
Project more. Go back to playing your man children toys lol

>> No.70694178

>>70694072
Socialist countries have invariably just replaced corporate monopolies with state run monopolies. Do you really want Congress running America's only ISP?

>> No.70694193

>>70693940
more like 2 cocking years

>> No.70694209

>>70694178
You can vote on government positions, you can't vote on corporations.

>> No.70694222

Hot take: this isn't a bad thing. Gamers need low latency, most internet users don't. Paying extra for special low latency routing seems completely reasonable (as long as they don't artificially raise everyone else's latency).

>> No.70694236

>>70694209
>you can vote on government positions
lol no you can't, or pot would be legal

>> No.70694246

>>70694222
>nobody needs more than 56k anyway!

>> No.70694258

>>70694154
He is retarded for posting the link, but still correct

>> No.70694266

>>70694222
>Hot take
I think you meant shit take

>> No.70694276

>>70694222
>as long as they don't artificially raise everyone else's latency
Don't worry, they will.

>> No.70694280

>>70694246
>bandwidth = latency
Even /g/ isn't this dumb

>> No.70694286

>>70694209
>what is being a shareholder
Fucking public education. I'm never spending my child to a public school. And if the school had a past of segregation even better.

>> No.70694293

>>70694222
According to the article, it only speeds up certain connections to certain game servers, it's not line-wide, so get fucked.

>> No.70694302
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>>70694280
>customers don't need low latency, only gaymers do

>> No.70694312

>>70694193
>more like 2 cocking years
No, June last year at the earliest.

And most ISPs apparently waited for more of the legal challenges to expire and maybe simply not be among the first who introduce it just in case people remember?

>> No.70694317

>>70693801
>tomshardware

This shit still exists?

>> No.70694318

>>70694178
Absolutely

>> No.70694329

>>70694286
Your vote as a shareholder doesn't matter because huge percentages of shares are gobbled up by institutional investors that hold pretty much all the power in votes.

>> No.70694331

>>70694001
Oh the horror. I'm stuck on my gigabit up and gigabit down connection until I can afford internet with racing stripes or whatever $oy shit they're selling.

>> No.70694336

>>70694222
lol you're one of the only reasonable people in this thread. everyone else is "duh-uh, business man bad man." fucking faggots.

>> No.70694354

>>70694329
Same argument applies to government. Even more so. You can own more shares and your say matters more to business. Your say will never matter more than the nigger dropout to government.

>> No.70694360

>>70694222
>>70694336
>d- dont tread on me!!

>> No.70694381

Cool. Fuck this net neutrality Reddit meme.

>> No.70694405

Comcast has a 1tb hard limit that is bullshit.
If they do tier garbage like mobile networks I'm gonna have to start dling shit onto a portable drive at a free wifi place.

>> No.70694406

>>70694222
> special low latency routing
Lel.

> as long as they don't artificially raise everyone else's latency
Yep, that's what they do.

They're not installing a second set of independent internet infrastructure for gaming. They're mostly just prioritizing that paid traffic over other traffic for those that pay $15. And then they'll prioritize "stock market" or other fast traffic over *that* gaming traffic for $1000.

At most they installed the capability to do that if they didn't have it already.

>> No.70694408

>>70694354
I don't really understand the analogy you're making. It's a good thing that your vote only matters as much as a "nigger dropout" because you are one person and so is he. No amount of money can (theoretically) change your amount of votes.
Corporate voting is different since you can just buy more shares and have more votes. It sounds like you're describing completely opposite things.

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>>70694381
>if reddit likes it then we have to hate it
Nice reddit mentality

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>>70693801
>certain combinations of ones and ceroes are pricier to transfer.

>> No.70694437

>>70694406
>they installed the capability to do that
Are you crazy? That shit costs money.

>> No.70694494

>be americlap
>want to get into trading because capitalism, yay!
>can't because fortnite players clog up the connection and all my buy/sell actions take a few ms longer than those of the competition
>gamers have risen up and stopped me from becoming a trader
>capitalism stops capitalism
>shoot up a school

>> No.70694496 [DELETED] 

>>70694408
No it doest. The nigger dropout is not sufficiently educated to make decisions for highly specialized and specific policy decisions related to industries/topics such as finance, technology, public policy, economics etc. The best you can hope to get is an ideologue candidate (trump/bernie/warren et. al.) from such low stock.

In fact I'd argue that franchise should be severely restricted and would advocate for a system similar to Starship Troopers.

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70694516

I'm fine with ripping off gamers. They're the biggest tools on the planet.

>> No.70694522

>>70694424
Nigga if your ISP wants to make you pay more they'll just increase their fees. They can literally do that WITH net neutrality and if they did you'd have no choice but to comply like the little wimpy faggot that you are. No ISP is gonna make you pay extra for websites everyone visits daily, especially if there are 5 other ISPs to choose from. Just stop being a Reddit faggot already.

>inb4 my zoophilia vids have as much importance as the local hospital's ER stuff
>inb4 the Jews are onto me
>inb4 Reddit infographs

>> No.70694532

>>70694522
>theres only one ISP where he lives

>> No.70694545

>>70694110
For now yes. Wait until they start to throttle everything. If they do that slowly enough people will accept it, just like DLC, microtransactions, and all the shit that's going on today.

>> No.70694547

>>70694516
Most gamers resisted loot boxes and crap. You're getting a fair bit of effort in that $10-30 software that is a game (or game set) on PC.

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>>70694522
Although you leech off of it constantly, the bang bus isn't free. Just because many people are involved, doesn't mean that nobody is going to charge them, you naîve faggot. If your ISP with net neutrality raises prices, change the ISP instead of the law, you bootlicking glow in the dark wanna-be CIA nigger.
I'm extremely sure not even a real CIA employee would want to play extra for what they have already, just because some ISPs ran some ads on public television. You blind tool.

>> No.70694591

>>70694302
This is literally true, netflex and Facebook are latency agnostic

>> No.70694594

>>70694547
Pareto principle, 20% of all gamers produce 80% of the revenue. Who cares what "most" gamers do when they don't bring in the money?

>> No.70694614

>>70694579
>change the ISP
That's my point you stupid. Go do that instead of being a faggot.

>> No.70694625

>>70694331
>Wanting to pay more
How's your wife's boyfriend doing.

>> No.70694638

>>70693801
This is a good thing and anyone who says otherwise is a retard.

>> No.70694644

>>70694302
its comcast & associated cunts ffs.
gaymers will pay $15 moar for the same service as now, everyone else on gayming servers will be deliberately anchored, till they cough up the mafia play fee as well.
AND, ITS JUST THE START!
fucking cunts

>> No.70694649

>>70694591
Not if you increase latency artificially

>> No.70694677

>>70694406
>Yep, that's what they do.
Proof?
>>70694336
Yeah "business man bad" pretty much summarizes the idiots ITT

>> No.70694681

>>70693801
Yes. This is soon coming to Canada as well when the conservatives get power. Poorfags will soon be off the net.

>> No.70694684

>>70694594
Not sure you're correct on that one even within one gaming marketplace, Steam and associated budget stores - never mind the game ecosystem in general. A large part of that ecosystem just doesn't like repeated / "optional" payments.


That's not to say no individual games finance themselves with gacha, loot boxes, silly amounts of cosmetic and pay to win. Sure enough, there you very much you see the Pareto principle - it's a smaller fraction that is crazy enough to put a lot of their income into the game or that has a high income/high wealth and just doesn't really care about $2k or $5 (other currently unused assets of theirs consume as much in a day).

>> No.70694705

>business only cares about the quality of their service when they figure out they can make more money if they just fix their routing and vpns

isnt it funny that if they just fixed the routing internally before they would have more customers anyway

as long as it doesn't become a monopoly and/or console wars where u have to be on certain isp to play certain games it wont be an issue

buy stock in vpns

>> No.70694727

>>70694649
You're assuming they're going to add a 300ms speed bump to all other traffic, which is ridiculous because you can ALREADY pay extra money for lower latency (for high frequency trading) and that hasn't happened.

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Britbong here
What's it like being constantly fucked in the ass with no Vaseline by government-lobbied corporations?

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>>70694727
>you can ALREADY pay extra money for lower latency
Yet another thing reddit thought net neutrality stopped but already existed before its repeal.

>> No.70694794

>>70694705
Just recommended to corporate.

>> No.70694797

>>70694522
There's only one ISP that serves my neighborhood.

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>>70693801
>https://www.tomshardware.com/news/cox-elite-gamer-internet-fast-lane,39176.html

>anti-net neutrality morons said it would never happen

Feels good to be right. And this is just the beginning.

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>> No.70694897

>>70694786
You should know, given the situation is no different here. Or maybe you're just as thick as the average Burgerclap and got used to the cock rammed down your throat without even realising it.

>> No.70694901

>>70694854
There is literally nothing wrong with having faster lanes

>> No.70694919

>>70694786

No self-awareness or just trolling?

>> No.70694941

>>70694897 >>70694919
Nice buzzwords, but unless you can't fill me in on how we're in the same situation, i'll take it that we're just fine as is

>> No.70694942

>>70694786
>government-lobbied corporations

>> No.70694949

>>70694901
there is if its done at the expense of the regular users. obviously, >>70694727 shows a scenario where a specialized infrastructure is used and is completely fair since they HFT corps incur much higher costs.

>> No.70694955

>>70693801
Video games are for children, so I don't care.
Everyone who is mad about this needs to go back to /v/

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>>70694873
Post your best smug Indians.

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Get ready burgers. You get the future you deserve.

>> No.70694961

>>70694901
There is when a private corporation chooses which lanes gets to be fast.

>> No.70694962

How are they going to guarantee that this service actually does anything and it's not just snake oil shit? Cox is not the only network in the US and there will be lots of game servers running on other networks outside of Cox. Also, why is it PC and Windows only? What about consoles?

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>>70694959

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>> No.70694994

>>70693801
Good, gamers should pay for wasting all my bandwidth

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>>70694962
>How are they going to guarantee that this service actually does anything
Why would they?

>> No.70694997

>>70694962
It's guaranteed going to be snake oil or fuck everyone else to make it not seem like snake oil. There's no way Cox is going to invest in their infrastructure for gamers of all people. They just want to cash in on the "gaming" X meme.

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>Pay slightly more to be ensured a low latency connection
Meanwhile the EU just passed a directive that is very likely going to cause the Internet as we know it today to stop existing, all for the sake of multi-billion dollar media companies.
But that's okay, they're the EU.
EU BASED
USA DUMB

>> No.70695025

>>70694949
It doesn't matter if Stacy gets 150 ping to Facebook, that's no expense because Facebook is latency agnostic. Anything real time should be routed at a higher priority, including gaming packets.

>> No.70695058

>>70695011
Which directive are you talking about?

The porn thing was the brits.

>> No.70695068

>>70694897
The situation about not having cheap fast internet or having no ISPs to choose from because neither are true for britbongs.

t.150/150 fiber for £30 a month

>> No.70695079

>>70695058
This is exactly why the Internet is going to die. Look at how autistic people were about a non-issue like Net Neutrality, but even some people on /g/ don't know or care about Article 13/17.

>> No.70695098

You faggots told me this shit wouldn't happen, waited a day after it went into effect and proclaimed nothing had changed. It's almost as if the net neutrality shills were right all along. They even said it would take about a year before the ISPs tried something like this.

>> No.70695122

>>70695098
>Pay for more
>Get bettery latency than average
ITS THE END OF THE INTERNET

>EU makes it so you have to pay a tax if you link other sites on your site
>Makes it so sites practically need an upload filter that defaults to "Probably copyrighted"
>Realizes the worst of SOPA/PIPA/ACTA combined, and IS ALREADY PASSED
Lmao who cares?

>> No.70695133

>>70694209
Voting in socilism is worthless

>> No.70695139

>>70695079
Uh, that's probably because Article 13/17 aren't doing much?
They're softer than DMCA and things like that.

Abolishing Net Neutrality however is in the process of fucking over all US hosts and US citizens.

>> No.70695140

>>70695133
Not that anon but I don't see how an economic system would make voting worthless.

>> No.70695156

>>70695140
Socialismo is not Just a economic system

>> No.70695162

>including Apex Legends, Overwatch, and Fortnite
Makes me kind of wish to see this come into fruition, just so gaymers would pay for it.

>> No.70695164

>>70695139
>Uh, that's probably because Article 13/17 aren't doing much?
>They're softer than DMCA and things like that.
You must be fucking insane. The link tax alone is one of the most harmful laws you could possibly come up with. You realize how the World Wide Web works right? You click LINKS. If you have to pay a tax on people clinking links to other sties on your own site, why even have links in the first place?
The upload filters that are practically inevitable thanks to this would also kill user created content. If you really want the Internet to be just another medium for watching Hollywood garbage then Article 13 is a godsend.

>Abolishing Net Neutrality however is in the process of fucking over all US hosts and US citizens.
Article 13 is going to fundamentally change how the Internet works for everyone.

>> No.70695167

>>70695140

Because it always results in poverty, hunger, and a tyrannical government that rules by force instead of rule of law.

>> No.70695173

So to the statits here awnser me How come fucking Romania has 700 fucking ISPs

>> No.70695182

>>70695167
>>70695156
Socialism is an economic system where businesses are owned by the people who run them, and the state controls the banks. Nothing more, nothing less.
How is that going to nullify voting?

>> No.70695196

>>70694959
Where does 4chan fall? I only use this site.

>> No.70695206

>>70695182
Does voting matters in China? Does It had any value in the Soviet Block?

>> No.70695231

>>70694178
>would you prefer one bad government run ISP or two bad corporation run ISPs
Well...

>> No.70695235

>>70695196
They put you on a blacklist and halt your service until the FBI arrives.

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>>70695206
What do either of those countries have to do with socialism? If anything the Nazis were closer to a true socialist state than either of those. They even called themselves "National Socialists", but they didn't go all the way (businesses were privately owned, not collectively owned by the people who ran them, and banks were also left to private owners).
Hitler also rose to power on a socialist platform. Again, he wasn't full socialist, but it shows that the only reason Nazis even got to power was because people wanted socialism.

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Post your face when the internet was born and died in your lifetime

>> No.70695263

>>70694959
All of the things cost the same of AT&T gigabit with a 1tb data

>> No.70695297

>>70693801
The article is deliberately misusing the term "fast lane."
Cox isn't slowing anyone's traffic, they're giving you the option of using additional infrastructure for a better connection.
It's also a fucking placebo and won't keep you from sucking massive cock at vidya. If you blow ass at 101 ping you're gonna blow ass at 20 ping.

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>>70695243
>because people wanted socialism

National Socialism was nothing like the marxist socialism.

>> No.70695330

>>70695164
> You must be fucking insane.
No. DMCA is worse, what else?

> If you have to pay a tax on people clinking links to other sties on your own site, why even have links in the first place?
You mean the explicit exemptions for the act of hyperlinking and legitimate private and non-commercial use of press publications by individual users? Yea, they are exemptions. Nothing happens.

> The upload filters that are practically inevitable thanks to this would also kill user created content.
Only exact filters, they can avoid doing fuzzy filters by the legalese that also demands that legitimate use, free speech and information dissemination, and so on must not be interfered with.

>Article 13 is going to fundamentally change how the Internet works for everyone
How so?

>> No.70695355

>>70695305
What's "marxist socialism"?
Socialism is where the people who operate a business (the workers) own it. There are plenty of companies that do this right now. The "shareholders" are the people who work there, and the better the business does the more kick backs the workers get.
People like Thomas Paine were talking about a "National Dividend" centuries before the idea of UBI ever came up.
Why would you choose any system that helps give rich Jews more money over one that doesn't?
You're brainwashed if you think a business being "ran" by "executives" who take most of the money is a good thing.

>> No.70695371

>>70695355
>What's "marxist socialism"?

If you don't know what that is compared to National Socialism then I ain't gonna help you.

>> No.70695373

>pay extra for GAEMAN grade connection
>load up Natural Selection 2 and connect to server
>get exact same ping because I'm not playing fartnite

Sounds like a great plan for gamers that play games

>> No.70695375

>>70695371
And this is why your ideology is dying, while mine is thriving.

>> No.70695382

>>70695173
Romaniafag here.
We didn't have older Internet infrastructure, so when it did start getting into this stuff, a gazillion ISP's sprouted, mostly servicing one neighbourhood with cables everywhere(commie blocks help, too).
Then they started expanding and devouring each other, resulting in cheap Internet for everyone.

Also, our gov promoted the development of IT&C companies with legal measures and tax cuts.

It was a nice combination of rapacious free-marketism and gov assistance.

Don't try to give us as an example.
You are literally the opposite(aging infrastructure, corporations colluding with one another over huge territories, etc.)

Also, it's hilarious hearing your asses talk about how the evil streaming kulaks are hogging all the bandwidth.
That's a bullshit scapegoat for your Internet sucking balls.

>> No.70695387

>>70695375
I subscribe to no ideology. Ideologues are a plague.

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Net neutrality is inevitable.

>> No.70695407

>>70694427
that's getting a little abstract, but is the basic sentiment, yes.

>> No.70695409

>>70695297
The infrastructure is already in place. Cox isn't going through the effort of creating direct priority lines to specific gaming services. Those lines already exist and Cox is just charging you to actually properly route your packets and will probably shaft any company that doesn't give them money.

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>>70695387
If that were true you wouldn't have bothered posting Hitler's definition of socialism when I brought him up.
Socialism is socialism. "Marxist socialism" is a Jewish boogeyman used to conflate socialism with communism.

>> No.70695436

>>70695235
I'd unironically welcome this but a lot of You-Know-Who's base is here getting "redpilled" by Russian sock puppets so that won't happen anytime soon

>> No.70695438

>>70694427
What costs more to transfer?
10101111
or
1011100111111010

>> No.70695443

>>70695410
>If that were true you wouldn't

I can do whatever I like at any time on a public forum. I don't care if it doesn't fit your understanding of the world or the people in it. Believe what you wish. I care not other than to be entertained.

>> No.70695463

>>70695409
>Cox isn't going through the effort of creating direct priority lines to specific gaming services.
This is what the article says they are doing though.

>> No.70695474

>>70693801
I reckon if the left swung him to be an ISIS plant, NN would not have succeeded

>> No.70695479

>provider offers a private service's tunneling protocol for sale
>net neutrality has literally anything to do with this
are you really that brain damaged?

>> No.70695482

>Variety noted in its report on Cox Elite Gamer that Cox denied plans to introduce fast lanes when the Associated Press contacted it in 2017. Apparently the company thinks it's been long enough that people will accept the Cox Gamer Elite service as a normal thing to offer

I recall how on the repeal of NN there was an ISP that quickly changed its online media to scrub references to NN commitments it made in the leadup. It's all about managing the PR, and easing in the control gradually.

>> No.70695484

>>70694156

+1

>> No.70695499

>>70693925
You should be glad it turned out this way.
>>70694156
No, he wasn't.

>> No.70695530

>>70695243
My god you're retarded
Here's some very un-left things they did:
>Privatized more businesses than any Western Capitalist country at the time
>Destroyed trade unions, their leaders put in concentration camps
>Doctors were paid by insurance companies, not the government
>Restricted guns to Jews and political dissidents
>Getting an abortion was punishable by death
>Hunted and murdered the LGBT
>The Holocaust
Do these actions seem liberal to you? It looks pretty conservative to me
The Nazi's were socialists in all but name

>> No.70695554

>>70695438
It has nothing to do with the amount of data. It has everything to do with the destination. 10101111 doesn't cost more to transfer to Apex Legends servers on average than other servers.

>> No.70695567

>>70695530
>Here's some very un-left things they did:
Left? What makes socialism "left"? You're brainwashed.
>Privatized more businesses than any Western Capitalist country at the time
>Doctors were paid by insurance companies, not the government

Socialism does not imply public ownership, so why would this matter?

>Destroyed trade unions, their leaders put in concentration camps
Yes, because they are just another layer of beaucracy that leeches on the actual workers, while pretending they're "for the workers". Again, what does this have to do with anything?

>Restricted guns to Jews and political dissidents
Sounds incredibly "left" to me.

>Getting an abortion was punishable by death
>Hunted and murdered the LGBT
>The Holocaust
Yes and? You can have a socialist state with fascism. Socialism is an economic system. Stop being brainwashed by the Jews.

>> No.70695568

Is this like super low latency or something?

>> No.70695583

>>70695554
>certain combinations of ones and ceroes are pricier to transfer.
The more 1s and 0s you send the pricer it gets. This is a simple fact of information, and pretty much anything.
Prioritizing packets has a very real, physical energy requirement as well, just in case you want to say I'm being pedantic.

>> No.70695585

>>70694246
They honestly wouldn't if companies didn't bloat up their websites

>> No.70695600

Since when are fast lanes not allowed? Mobile isps have been doing "no bandwidth" streaming for certain video services at certain quality for ages no and no one ever called them out. NN was always about throttling certain vendors

>> No.70695618

>>70694302
that's true, though. only gamers are using reactive udp and are limited by latency. everyone else is using buffered tcp and limited by bandwidth. efficiently allocating resources is more likely to benefit customers than shitting resources all over the place because muh altruism.

>> No.70695622

>digital apartheid

>> No.70695632

>>70695382
Even Verizon and Google had problems with their Fiber services expansion because of collusion of local corporations and government

>> No.70695641
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>>70695068
DELET

>> No.70695649

>>70695463
From Cox's Elite Gamer FAQ
>The Cox Elite Gamer Service (CEG) uses an intelligent server network to route your game connection. Our service focuses on creating the best connection possible for gaming, and only gaming!

Basically its a bullshit way of saying they will actually properly route your packets if they go to specific gaming services.

>> No.70695674

>>70693801
Daily reminder that Obama's Net Neutrality "rule" would not have prevented this.

>> No.70695676

>>70693801
good. fuck gaymers

>> No.70695681

>>70695243
>They even called themselves "National Socialists"
They had winter aid and universal health care and shit, yes?

Of all the moderate social democrats and so on also were undesirables and traitors to the Nazis. What we remember the Nazis for and what they put most efforts into is the authoritarian nationalist warmongering terror rooted in some "völkisch" supremacist ideology bordering on and supported by religion rather than correct observations. Yes, that was the nature of their state, not "socialism".

>> No.70695691

>>70695583
>the more 1s and 0s
That's bandwidth. We're talking about latency.

>> No.70695694

>>70695681
I clearly said they didn't go as far as they could have with socialism. They were still more socialist than the USSR or post-revolutionary China. Which was the point.

>>70695691
My post was two lines and you only read one.

>> No.70695703

>>70695567
>Left? What makes socialism "left"? You're brainwashed.
It's an inherently left-wing ideology
>Socialism does not imply public ownership
But it does?
>they are just another layer of beaucracy that leeches on the actual workers
You're forgetting these leaders can be impeached and replaced if they're deemed incompetent/corrupt. Outright killing them literally stomps the democratic process.
>Sounds incredibly "left" to me.
Not when its "Guns for me, none for you".
>You can have a socialist state with fascism. Socialism is an economic system.
No you can't. See North Korea.

>> No.70695708

>>70695649
>>and only gaming!
you're ignoring this part. a server with a smaller routing table will route packets much, much faster than a server with the entire web in
it's routing table. it's access to a special server that only contains game servers to ensure the fastest lookup and route times. how much this will actually affect latency is beyond me.

>> No.70695714

>>70695567
>>Yes, because they are just another layer of beaucracy that leeches on the actual workers, while pretending they're "for the workers".
Ah yes, that's why union workers make more than non-union workers, very nice.

>> No.70695718

>>70695479
This. It has nothing to do net neutrality.

>> No.70695720

>>70695243
They literally only called themselves National Socialists in order to attract the working class in Germany to support their movement and draw support away from leftist socialists parties.

>> No.70695728

>all these poorfags projecting their awful financial decisions
LOL

>> No.70695735

>>70694286
You're retarded if you think being a shareholder is the same as public voting.

>> No.70695743

>>70695583
>The more 1s and 0s you send the pricer it gets
Again, this isn't about bandwidth or data caps. It's about destination prioritization. Whether that's investing in websites who pay up, or ignoring those who don't. And passing those costs along to consumers in the form of packages like this one.

>>70695600
And where is the line between "fast lanes" and "throttling"? If I choose not to invest in my network save to those particular website owners who pay up (and force customers to have to pay extra for access), I'm not "throttling" anyone, but I have created a de facto tiered system that brings companies large and small to heel and consumers into a nightmare.

>> No.70695750

>>70695098
You're wasting your breath. /g/'s full of fucking morons that would defend the net neutrality repeal to the death regardless of how much it might hurt them. They're okay with it as long as it makes those stupid libtards mad!

All of us sane people recognized that ISPs would make no immediate changes and delay the consumer ass-fucking until NN faded out of popular memory. Right now is an excellent time for them to start pulling this crap because there's now some distance between the repeal and everyone's too enraptured with the Mueller bullshit to notice or to care.

>> No.70695781

>>70695714
>union workers make more than non-union workers
only in the public sector where unions can lobby elected officials to make it so. the autoworkers union of america fucks the workers over and has made themselves insanely rich in the process.
>>70695735
your vote as a shareholder is more likely to matter than your vote at the polls. the fact that only people with a stake in the company can vote makes it a far better system already. letting uninvested parasites vote in public elections is what destroyed rome.

>> No.70695782

>>70695703
>It's an inherently left-wing ideology
"Left-wing" is a Jewish term used to limit your thinking.

>But it does?
Collective ownership of a business by the people who work at it is not public ownership. The business is still private, still not run by the state. There are plenty of companies that operate this way right now, even under capitalism.

>You're forgetting these leaders can be impeached and replaced if they're deemed incompetent/corrupt. Outright killing them literally stomps the democratic process.
Socialism is an economic system. Democracy is a political system. You could have a fascist socialist state if you really wanted. USSR is a great example of how you can have fascist communism.

>Not when its "Guns for me, none for you".
Marx says we should own guns. The Founding Fathers ("liberals") solidified owning guns. Owning guns is arguably more "left" than anything. Banning things for some people but not for others is more "right wing".
See how stupid this left-right thinking is?

>No you can't. See North Korea.
North Korea is not socialist. It's a communist dictatorship with severe wealth inequality. Arguably not very communist, but that's beside the point, because it isn't socialism.

>>70695714
Unions wouldn't be necessary if the business was collectively owned. Unions exist to use your income as bargaining chips to make the union leaders powerful and wealthy.

>>70695743
>Again, this isn't about bandwidth or data caps.
You literally had to read one more line of text. That's it.

>> No.70695795

>>70694786
You don't have freedom of speech and can get arrested for hosting your own private investigation if it's against muslims.

>> No.70695808

>>70693996
where do i upvote this post

>> No.70695815

>>70695694
And both lines were pointless drivel. They do not need to prioritize anything and mentioning bandwidth was a non-sequitur.

>> No.70695825

>>70695815
>They do not need to prioritize anything
But in this post >>70695815
>Again, this isn't about bandwidth or data caps. It's about destination prioritization
Hmm

>> No.70695847

>>70695825
What? The second post you attempted to link is not me, and he's saying the same thing thay I said. They're introducing an unnecessary prioritization scheme to get more money. It's rent seeking.

>> No.70695858

>>70695847
And I said any prioritization they do will inevitably cause a higher energy use.

>> No.70695866

>>70695847
>cox thing: optional service for video games
>rent: mandatory service for basic survival
yep, same thing.

>> No.70695869
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70695869

>>70695708
Once a connection is established the size of the original lookup for the routing table shouldn't matter. This bullshit Cox service is pushing is just them actually providing the service you pay for instead of sitting on their thumbs and routing you through god knows where.

>> No.70695872

>>70695808
You just did faggot

>> No.70695878

Let’s all laugh at the Americans!

1000/100 cable internet here, for 44$. If I had fiber it would be the same price for 1000/1000. Oh and no fair use limit.

>> No.70695882
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70695882

I'm so sick and tired of the internet being such hot dog shit in America. I wish these ISPs would try to be the best instead of the least shit.
Granted, I pay like 30 bucks for 12Mb down 7Mb down, but it's either shit speeds or a fucking cap, which any power user will blow through in a couple of days.
Fucking ISPs catering to normies.
Can't wait for all these boomer fucks to fucking die and get out of office so people who actually value the internet as something more than a cash cow can write legislation.

>> No.70695907

>>70694522
So retarded

>> No.70695921

>>70695866
Google the phrase "rent seeking" before you reply next time.

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>>70694222
>hot take

>> No.70695957

>>70695674
Elaborate, I'm genuinely curious.

>> No.70695972

ITT: Ungrateful little shits who want a pony
Pay for the services you use or shut the fuck up so the adults can talk

>> No.70695994

>>70695972
a corporate shill defended this

>> No.70695997

>The internet was founded on the principle that companies shouldn't be able to charge their customers more when they ... optimize the connections of those willing to pay higher fees.
lol wut. must have missed that from ARPAnet

>> No.70696015

>>70695782
>"Left-wing" is a Jewish term used to limit your thinking.
Nice racial bias you have there, but the term was coined by the Frogs, literally fighting for freedom in the 17th century
>The business is still private, still not run by the state.
When Thatcher privatised businesses in the UK, it saw rises in costs and major losses to jobs. Not exactly a socialist's wet dream.
>Marx says we should own guns.
>Owning guns is arguably more "left" than anything.
To protect against an authoritarian government, yes.
>The Founding Fathers ("liberals") solidified owning guns.
They are not liberal by today's standards. I don't have to tell you slavery and civil rights was a big thing back then...
>North Korea is not socialist.
They are when they don't even rely on their own currency anymore.

>> No.70696025

>>70695583
I can pay the same for 1000 mb/s connection than was a 56kb connection in the 90s. Your argument is bullshit because it doesn't matter.

>> No.70696097
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70696097

>>70693801
>elite gamer internet

>> No.70696103

>>70696015
>Nice racial bias you have there, but the term was coined by the Frogs, literally fighting for freedom in the 17th century
We don't live in 18th century Revolutionary France. The term today is used to limit how you think. Owning guns, public healthcare, and praising Hitler is a legitimate political position that isn't "left", "right", or "center".

>When Thatcher privatised businesses in the UK, it saw rises in costs and major losses to jobs. Not exactly a socialist's wet dream.
Socialism doesn't imply public ownership of businesses. Socialism is not public ownership of businesses.

>To protect against an authoritarian government, yes.
Hence why it's stupid to say it's either "left" or "right". If anything it's "have nots" and "the rich".

>They are not liberal by today's standards. I don't have to tell you slavery and civil rights was a big thing back then...
Because "liberal" like "left" and "right" are engineered terms, loaded with all sorts of baggage in an attempt to "guide" our thinking.

>They are when they don't even rely on their own currency anymore.
What does not having your own currency have to do with workers of a business owning the business they work at?

>> No.70696125

>>70695921
it only works when you control a resource others actually require. nobody requires special routing for video games. rent seeking is called such because shelter is a requirement for people to survive which makes rent seeking possible. you're using the term wrong, you dingus.

>> No.70696132

>>70695795
>You don't have freedom of speech
Yes we do, its called being on welfare
>can get arrested for hosting your own private investigation
You need a licence. You can't just shout an angry mob into Muslim homes and call it an inspection

>> No.70696156

>>70695858
Prioritization can cost more money through infrastructure investment. And there's no issue in a company charging more for a faster line.
The issue is splitting the content they're delivering behind a paywall and picking winners and losers among businesses and consumers who don't pay extra. There's no hard line between this and an ISP throttling your access to Wikipedia or Google without a paid package, and forcing companies people access through them to pay huge fees for the privilege. Not because of bandwidth or amounts of data, but in terms of content which is invisible to the ISP and doesn't affect its network.
If the ISP wanted to raise its prices overall because they have the better network, nobody would care.

>> No.70696159

>>70695869
i admittedly wasn't very clear. a smaller routing table means less connections coming through. a server that only routes to 4chan would only be routing a tiny minority of an isp's packets and could do so very quickly per client.

>> No.70696163

>>70693801
But /g/ told me nothing would happen!

>> No.70696201
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This is the shit I'm tired of.
There needs to be legislation on the language used in advertising.

>> No.70696216

>>70694065
Is this bait?

>> No.70696238

>>70696163
That was /pol/ 2016 election holdovers, most of them went back to r*ddit by now.

>> No.70696278

>>70696163
and nothing has happened. net neutrality had nothing to do with this sort of thing so stop drinking the /g/ commies kool-aid. half of this board is unpaid corporate shills who don't know what they're talking about.

>> No.70696279

>>70696201
5 TB is still pretty generous desu

>> No.70696282

>>70696201
that's actually not that shocking and 5TB is a large amount of data, even for heavy users

>> No.70696298

Nothing happened. Net neutrality was a distraction tactice. Data caps are still here. The government still prevents entry to market for new ISPs. Jewgle and Faceberg are still censoring the internet. Phone posters are still driving down the quality of what discourse is still allowed.

>> No.70696313

>>70696279
It's still not unlimited, and the plans have a lower cap with a 10 dollar fee per 100GB over that small cap.
It's not fucking unlimited.

>> No.70696322

>>70696278
>half of this board is unpaid corporate shills who don't know what they're talking about.
Ironic

>> No.70696339

>>70694797
Let me mourn the 0.05% of people like you.

>> No.70696341

>>70693801

Drain the swamp they said. So much winning your head will spin they said.

To be fair though, there should be a tax for being a game- ... err I mean dumb.

>> No.70696355

>>70696313
It's unlimited so long as you don't use more than 5 TB. Or are you one of the people who walk into an all you can eat buffet and complain when they don't let you pack the entire buffet into your car to eat later?

>> No.70696368

>>70696355
>It's unlimited so long as you don't use more than 5 TB
it clearly states they will slow the connection speed, not that they'll cut you off or charge extra

it's technically still unlimited even if at shit speeds

>> No.70696370

>>70696322
not ironic or even coincidental. get a dictionary, you buffoon.

>> No.70696375

>>70696201
To exhaust 5TB, you'd need to download more than 115 megabytes of data every hour, every day for 30 days.

>> No.70696383

>>70696355
It's not unlimited. It's a pay per 100GB. If there is any kind of cap, soft or hard, it by definition is not unlimited. And like I said, you pay per 100GB, which again, isn't unlimited

>> No.70696389

DESIGNATED

>> No.70696395

>>70696370
ironic

>> No.70696404

>>70696383
The other plan maybe, but this one is unlimited but slows you down over 5 TB. No extra charge, just slower speeds.

>> No.70696417

>>70696404
There is no other plan, the 3 plans on the page are the ones the 5TB cap is referring to.

>> No.70696425

>>70696103
>The term today is used to limit how you think.
Or rather it's used as indicators to represent whether you're for libertarianism or authoritarianism, and everything in-between. Personally, I like knowing who my friends and enemies are.
>Socialism doesn't imply public ownership of businesses.
We going in circles now? It literally means everyone who works owns the factors of production. Privatised businesses are effectively capitalist, because no one but the owners determines production.
>If anything it's "have nots" and "the rich".
True. Now would be a good time to tally the rich & poor's political leanings however...
>What does not having your own currency have to do with workers of a business owning the business they work at?
Socialism is meant to encourage a self-sustaining economy. When workers who own the business see their currency is worth jackshit, it means the means of production isn't in their hands, rather it's in the hands of the authority who deemed them unworthy to distribute to.

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>>70696404
Limited speeds in the unlimited plan, you say?

>> No.70696502

>>70696103
>Because "liberal" like "left" and "right" are engineered terms,
All terms are engineered...
Tell me a term that isn't engineered

>> No.70696509

>>70694293
LOL literally useless

>> No.70696512

>>70693801
>Cox Introduces 'Elite Gamer' Internet Fast Lane

>it doesn't change speed at all
>it decreases latency only
>it is literally only meant for a very specific portion of their customer base
>hardly anyone will even want it

Explain to me why, if I were a streamer or some shit, I wouldn't want this?
And explain why half of this thread is a retarded "durr i told you so" when the title is clickbait only, internet fastlanes refer to throttling content on purpose, as in bandwidth.
This isn't changing anything but priority, which is needed here.
Why shouldn't they be allowed to offer it?

If you want to say "this is how it starts", sure. We'll see. But this is absolutely not what people were talking about before.
Don't pretend like it was.

>> No.70696517

>>70696015
>They are not liberal by today's standards
What standards? Liberalism isnt static, classical liberalism values freedom of speech while its modern counterpart kind of doesnt. If you tie it with the progressive movement which supported the green revolution you can see how much it changed compared to todays anti-gmo organic food campaigns

>> No.70696545

>>70696512
Um, sweetie.
Net neutrality means nothing bad will happen.
And this is bad. Nice try.

>> No.70696548

>>70694293
Exactly. It only speeds up connections to servers that they throttled so they can charge you more money to unthrottle.

>> No.70696565

>>70696512
>We'll see.
We've seen that already*, ftfy. There are other countries that don't have net neutrality. Spoiler: Customers are getting fucked over there.

>> No.70696572

>>70693801
how did net neutrality get passed in the first place? what were the benefits? because all I've heard are the negatives, and the people voting should've had the public's consideration in mind, or there would've been more backlash than there was

>> No.70696578

>>70696572
>what were the benefits?
Internet

>> No.70696586

>>70696375
That's not a lot.
At their lowest tier (100Mbps) you'll use around 32 terabytes. Not to mention the 3,100 dollars you'll pay in overage fees.

>> No.70696588

>from Internet to Interline

>> No.70696627

>>70696375
A backup of a 14TB HDD to Google Drive wouldn't be possible.
>imagine being sold an "unlimited" (sic!) plan that purposefully keeps you locked out of the cloud

>> No.70696642

They're not throttling anyone or increasing gamers it's a seperate network to gaming servers

So hence the increased cost because it's just gamers using the network

>> No.70696660

https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/17/17990758/net-neutrality-fcc-new-york-attorney-general-investigation

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>>70693943
Funny you should mention that. I'm with Deutsche Telekom in socialist Germanistan and have had shitty routing to Imgur and other websites (also my own server in Luxembourg which costs me ~100€ each month) for weeks now. Other customers have the same issue and speeds are great as soon as I use a local VPN. I wish I could just pay them for better service but unfortunately they're the only provider available for me and they won't do anything.

>Peering disagreements and shitty routing doesn't happen with strict regulations in place

I fucking wish

>> No.70696677

>>70696660
oh yeah just like how they kicked out Charter

oh wait lmao, all show

>> No.70696682

>>70694677
>businesses basic and redflagged
>yes mr shekelstein shove your cut cock inside me
jesus fuck how can you be this much of a cuck

>> No.70696686

>Cox said on the Cox Elite Gamer website that the service offers 34 percent less lag, 55 percent fewer ping spikes, and 45 percent less jitter than its existing service. That's because traffic for specific games--including Apex Legends, Overwatch, and Fortnite--will be routed through a gaming-specific network. This also means that people who pay for Cox Elite Gamer won't suddenly have faster connections to other sites and services.

So they're changing the physical backhaul just for gamers. I don't see an issue with this. No one else would be slowed or increased

>> No.70696695

>pay for fibre backhaul on your own dime
>neighbour complains saying against NN
>ISP cuts you off

this is the world you cucks want lmao

>> No.70696701

>>70696216
Not necessarily, I've lived in areas where comcast was excellent.

And others where a lynching was in order

>> No.70696721

>>70696666
Telekom is doing that for way too long now, they refuse to pay for a backbone connection to Level3 afaik. I suffered from a Telekom line once as well (YouTube didn't buffer properly).
Protip: Telekom has a free VPN, if you use that one, your routing will improve and the throttling will be gone. It's all a calculated inception, but I don't know if it's a succesful one, because I ain't paying Telekom anymore, kek.

>T-Series ain't nuthin but a bitch lasagna

>> No.70696722

>>70696502
You're avoiding the point. Terms like "food", if they're engineered, are not engineered in a way to confuse and control your thinking.

>>70696425
>Or rather it's used as indicators to represent whether you're for libertarianism or authoritarianism, and everything in-between. Personally, I like knowing who my friends and enemies are.
You know that but their arguments and beliefs, not by where those beliefs fall on some non-sense graph. Who would you rather fight Jews with? A capitalist controlled by the Jews or a socialist who realizes Jews use capitalism to control you?

>We going in circles now? It literally means everyone who works owns the factors of production.
Businesses being owned by the people who run them is "owning the means of production". That doesn't mean Government ownership. Why should Jewish shareholders get a dividend while you, the worker, gets maybe 1-5% of what your works earns the company?

>Privatised businesses are effectively capitalist, because no one but the owners determines production.
There are plenty of employee owned and operated businesses in existence, from food chains such as Woodmans to farm collectives such as Ocean Spray. Collective ownership doesn't imply public ownership. They're all still private businesses that the Government doesn't run.
Socialism is not where the government runs businesses.
Socialism is not where the government owns all businesses.

>True. Now would be a good time to tally the rich & poor's political leanings however...
You're rich, you don't want Pajeet to take your position in global society. Likewise Goldberg doesn't want you to take his place in global society. As long as this kind of system exists, you and Goldberg want the same thing, just for different people.

>Socialism is meant to encourage a self-sustaining economy. When workers who own the business see their currency is worth jackshit
If they're using someone else's currency then it's certainly currency with some value (i.e. USD)

>> No.70696743

>>70696517
>Liberalism isnt static, classical liberalism values freedom of speech while its modern counterpart kind of doesnt.
Classical liberalism means "economic freedom", in other words "you have the right to own slaves for production". It had very little to do with freedom of speech (because no one other than the oppressed, need to challenge the status quo). Modern liberalism expanded to include economic and political equality for everyone.
>If you tie it with the progressive movement which supported the green revolution you can see how much it changed compared to todays anti-gmo organic food campaigns
From what I've seen, anything to do with environmental protections is spearheaded by lobbyists, whose primary concern is profit rather than conservation. It's not surprise a group risen to oppose them.

>> No.70696752

>>70696695
except the fiber was paid for by tax payers
https://nationaleconomicseditorial.com/2017/11/27/americans-fiber-optic-internet/

>> No.70696766

>>70696752
i said on your own dime

also that money was used on fibre, just to 3G/4G towers

>> No.70696776

Fuck jews and fuck niggers.

>> No.70696786

>>70696578
sorry I meant the opposition to it, or whatever ajit got passed

>> No.70696797

>>70696776
>fuck niggers
ayo wtf, we dindu shit here. fuck you man

>> No.70696798

>>70695882
believe me, anon, I also thought the same. Waiting for those fucking fossils in power to die out and be replaced by competent people, but really it's just a naive fantasy we only live in our dreams.

>> No.70696821

>>70693801
at the current state of 4chan the neet bootlickers won't mind getting jewed hard because of this simple reason "gaymers are getting btfo lmao Xdxd" even though this means more throttling for any sort of traffic they consider "gaming" .

>> No.70696848

>>70694051
this, but then 10 mbit down and 10 mbit up.

>> No.70696964

>>70696786
You mean the benefits of repealing net neutrality?

There basically was nothing more than a bullshit campaign that net neutrality was somehow neutering the companies abilities to make even better internet for everyone and that repealing it meant the internet would only improve. Surprise it was all right wing corporate cock sucking lies to improve their donors profit margins as usual.

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>>70693929
At least we still have memes. Cant say the same for some.

>> No.70697026

PT.1
>>70696722
>Terms like "food", if they're engineered, are not engineered in a way to confuse and control your thinking.
There's "healthy food" & "unhealthy food", just like there's "bad" left-wing and "good" right-wing policy
>Who would you rather fight Jews with? A capitalist controlled by the Jews or a socialist who realizes Jews use capitalism to control you?
You implying I directly have anything against Jews?
To humour you, i'll fight with the capitalist. Because they're attempting to "break their chains" to a degree.
>That doesn't mean Government ownership.
I feel like the discussion has gotten confused here...
Socialism is public ownership, not government ownership.
Capitalism is private ownership, not government ownership.
Government ownership is literally communism.
>Why should Jewish shareholders get a dividend while you, the worker, gets maybe 1-5% of what your works earns the company?
Lol, you're really laying it on the Jews. So much for personal responsibility...
Because that's what capitalism is? It's under no obligation to serve the people, it's only doctrine is to secure wealth at any cost.

>> No.70697032

>>70697022
Why is he fellating his drink

>> No.70697036

>>70697026
PT.2
>There are plenty of employee owned and operated businesses in existence, from food chains such as Woodmans to farm collectives such as Ocean Spray.
All of them are owned by umbrella corporations.
>Socialism is not where the government runs businesses.
>Socialism is not where the government owns all businesses.
Socialism requires the government to promote fair distribution of the wealth it acquires. I don't see capitalism nor communism doing this.
>You're rich, you don't want Pajeet to take your position in global society. Likewise Goldberg doesn't want you to take his place in global society.
If I'm rich I don't need my position in society, because I'm rich. The populist in me would make sure Goldberg actions would have little to no effect in the matter.
>If they're using someone else's currency then it's certainly currency with some value
But it's not the sovereign currency of their nation, that's the point.

>> No.70697039

>live in australia
>phone company gives me unlimited spotify, GPM, iheartradio data
>speed 512kbps but for music don't need more
>under NN laws in the US this is illegal

lmao can you imagine getting cucked out of a good deal

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>>70694786
Hold up. You better show me that porn license.

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>>70694128

>> No.70697200

>>70693801
People already have different internet speeds - this changes NOTHING

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>>70697162
holy fuck americans are actually buying cables that cost 1500 burgerinos when there is an alternative which does exactly the same for 5 burgerinos, you literally can't make this shit up

>> No.70697224

>>70694236
>looks at his medical card
...but pot is legal here.

>> No.70697230

>>70697078
It wont work. Proxies and VPNs are a thing.
It will encourage more shadier use of the internet.
It doesn't exclude social media websites who are the initial instigators of niche porn

The liberal in me thinks this is an imposition on free speech, but the conservative in me hopes this will get the low-test incels out of their bedrooms and into someone else's

>> No.70697333

>>70697039
>phone company gives me unlimited spotify, GPM, iheartradio data
Its not free, you're just paying extra on top of your total
>under NN laws in the US this is illegal
Its not

>> No.70697350

>>70697214
>are actually buying
read the reviews again, they're just memeing

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>>70697230
>It doesn't exclude social media

Actually they are looking into that.

>> No.70697407

>>70697333
Prices did not' increase when it was announced years ago

I pay $94 for a pixel 3XL and 100gb of data ($60 something plan, $30 something phone)

>Zero-rating programs (like AT&T not counting DirecTV toward a customer’s data usage) can allow people to use specific apps and services without the data used going toward their monthly data caps.

>These programs were explicitly prohibited in the Federal Communications Commission’s Open Internet Order in 2015

>> No.70697410 [DELETED] 

>>70693801
Someone have to shoot him in the face.

>> No.70697421

>NN in 2015
>nothing changes
>NN repealed
>mass outcry
>nothing changes

LOL

>> No.70697458

>>70697421
>not reading OP

LOL

>> No.70697474

>>70697354
They can do us all a favour and get rid of social media entirely
It's stunting our ability to communicate with each other in real life
Personally, I couldn't give a fuck. Torrents are still a thing and I still have enough porn to last me a lifetime.
And I'm not as unattractive that I can't go out and get laid.
This half-assed law just goes to show how inept our MPs are when it comes to understanding Web 3.0

>> No.70697480

>>70697458
>didn't read article
>actually has own network just for games
>regular website traffic doesn't pass through this and will see no speed benefit
>no one else suffers for gamers gain

>> No.70697494

>>70693801
>gaymers pay more for the shittiest games so some servers might connect a little faster
I don't give a fuck

>> No.70697516

>>70697421
This

NN and the whole campaign against it was a fucking sham. The only thing I don't understand yet is who benefitted from it.

>> No.70697528

Democrats only wanted NN cus they thought they'd get $12/month gigabit or free

>> No.70697534
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>>70694331
Oh you mean the internet other countries had for years while usa telecoms sat on their fat asses with all their government subsidies?

MAGApeeds sure are a bright bunch.

>> No.70697543

>>70693917
>116 IPs
>only one poster who isn't a retard
Cox's service is a rebrand of wtfast.

Has nothing to do with net neutrality.

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>>70694178
>Only company
And that's how you know you are just a knee-jerk >B-BUT W-WHAT A-BOUT VUVUZUELE!?!?! /pol/ spouting moron.

>> No.70697565

>>70697407
>I pay $94 for a pixel 3XL and 100gb of data ($60 something plan, $30 something phone)
Lol, I pay £24 for unlimited 4G, texts and 600 minutes (which I hardly use), I buy a phone outright

>critics of the programs have suggested that they could end up having anti-competitive effects.
>This multi-year study by Epicenter.works found that countries that allow these programs end up seeing higher costs for wireless data down the road.
That's why. It was undercutting competitors in States who already only have the choice between two or three ISPs.
Australia and the UK has a multitude of ISP to subscribe to, without being gimped by whatever city you live in

>> No.70697580

>>70697565
>Lol, I pay £24 for unlimited 4G, texts and 600 minutes (which I hardly use
Feel free to post the website offering this

oh wait let me guess it's gonna be something else with 3gb of data for 21 pounds, lmao
>not even unlimited calls
>pixel 3xl is $1300 AUD
>omg look how cheap my plan is without $1300/24 months

>> No.70697587

there's a ceiling on how much a company could charge for a residential internet service considering the target audience (neets) don't have the money.

sign me up.

>> No.70697600

>>70694153
Yep.

>>70693861
The same thing has been happening for decades with financial algo trading. This is just enabling extra functionality for an extra fee, not degrading the base service. If all you care about is the ~gap~ then you're a literal Communist and deserve a bullet.

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>>70694522
>Lvl 89 elite american drone master here
>Behold my powers of reason
And they said self-milking cows were 1986 fiction.

>> No.70697617

>>70693801
I wish I bothered to screenshot the retards right now that said "LUL NOTHING CHANGED AND NOTHING WILL CHANGE".

>> No.70697629

>>70697617
nothing has changed retard

Read the article

It's like paying your city more money a month for more water pressure but they run a line to you, no one has a drop in pressure

>> No.70697652

>>70696666
Be glad you got Telekom and not Unitymedia.
I was stuck with them for half a few months before I had enough and payed to get FTTH out of my own pocket. Complete connection loss multiple times per day, if you had a connection it was usually with horrible packet loss. And the by far worst customer support I have ever had the displeasure to deal with.

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>>70694522

>> No.70697670

>>70697474
>I still have enough porn to last me a lifetime.

Anything good?

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>>70697629
>Pay 15$ more per month so we bother to implement proper routing that should and would be standard had the Curry Nigger not fucked you up the arse
>Defend getting assraped by making a completely wrong comparison between routing and water pressure

>> No.70697687

>>70697580
>Feel free to post the website offering this
>three.co.uk
Three was known for supplying unlimited mobile data (I think they stopped doing that now). When I was finally able to afford a contract back in 2015, I bought a HTC One M9 for £70 with a £34 monthly contract. When I called to complain about shitty reception a few times and threatened to cancel my contract, they offered to reduce the cost to £29 and then £24. Turns out the poor reception is because of the amount of electronic interfering in my bedroom. I've had the same contract ever since and I have no obligation to change it. If my phone breaks I can always purchase a new one.

>> No.70697698

>>70697629
This is just a rebrand of wtfast and has nothing to do with infrastructure.

>> No.70697736

>>70697670
>Anything good?
Like 95% of it is big booty anal porn

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>>70697480
>Companies invest in premium paywall infrastructures rather than improving their overall speeds and optimization
>This is hood because my associated contrarianism to political agendas

How many other boots did you lick today?

>> No.70697770

>>70697687
My bad, meant to say HTC One M8 Mini

>> No.70697777

>>70694001
Nothing changed. Did you even read the article its a extra service through a separate newer network. If you don't pay you keep the same service you already had.
>>those conservatards
Fuckoff crybaby polfag.

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>you should blindly trust this corporation when they say they won't throttle you or hurt your internet connection
>why?
>go screw yourself commie, companies can do no wrong

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>>70697777
check'd and commies reck'd

>> No.70697843

>>70693801
At least they went first for the gaems donaldfags love so much

>> No.70697859

This is a extra service that would have still been allowed with net neutrality in effect.

>>70697516
>NN and the whole campaign against it was a fucking sham. The only thing I don't understand yet is who benefitted from it.
Oh that's easy.
WITH nn giant service providers like google, netflix, etc. benefit.
WITHOUT nn giant communications, ISPs, etc. benefit.
Either way regular people get screwed like always.

>> No.70697865

>This thread
Oh boy the average amerimutt, from boomer to zoomer really is completely indocrinated.
You guys talk about muh freedoms but you guys give up on your rights from health to even internet services now lmao.
How can a group of people be such bootlicking doormats that let companies shit on their rights every minute of their lives?
>b-b-but lulberals didn't like pajeet so I had to felate his poo in loo balls btfo them even if it means me getting trippled jewed. m-m-maga!!

>> No.70697883

>>70695196
No one serves 4chan unless you get an enterprise connection with full access

>> No.70697887

It's just a rebrand of WTFast, you can even put a Phoenix zip code on their site and it redirects you to the one for Cox.
https://secure.wtfast.com/en/Subscription/Index/new
Put in 85302

>> No.70697914

>>70697777
>Did you even read the article its a extra service through a separate newer network
It's just configured proxies, it's not really a "newer network."

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yikes

>> No.70697936

>>70697926
It's not QoS, it's >>70697914

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>>70697865
>Americans in denial about most socioeconomic issues
Are you really that surprised

>> No.70698127

>>70694065
Wtf I pay $80 for 300mpbs in Phoenix and they wanted $120 for gigablast. That's the problem with cox is they charge every customer a random amount. I wish CenturyLink wasn't trash.

>> No.70698135

>>70693801
Kill corporations.

>> No.70698144

>>70697865
B-but librul tears!
If everyone gets pajeet dick up the ass, us conservative folks will bear it like men we are, who are used to taking dicks, but liberals will cry and whine!

>> No.70698153

>>70693801
god i fucking hate cox

>> No.70698154

>>70693801
based, the poor should not block my internet

>> No.70698164

How is this ANY different from ISPs offering different speeds for different monthly rates, something they've done long before 2017?

>> No.70698195

>>70698164
So even if we were pretending that Cox's rebrand of wtfast here had anything to do with net neutrality or infrastructure or different speeds, you know the difference between bandwidth and latency, correct?

Because without arguing that it's right or wrong to offer, it's pretty different.

>> No.70698240

>>70693801
When are we going to end paid prioritization of package delivery?
It's INSANE that you can have a package shipped faster for more money.

Why aren't we going after big shippers to get it changed?
THIS IS AN OUTRAGE
hashtag fast shipping lanes

>> No.70698265

>>70698240
This analogy might apply if UPS built the street to your house and didn't let anyone else drive on it without paying up.

And also you have to pay to go up your driveway.

But maybe we should leave the shitty analogies behind and pretend to not be retards.

>> No.70698277

>>70698265
The solution is to break up monopolies then.

>> No.70698287

>>70698265
The government literally builds and maintains the roads, and runs the US postal service. Which has paid prioritization of packages.
So it literally applies in every way.

>> No.70698322

>>70698287
It basically looks like you're arguing the government should regulate the internet, and I'm not going to disagree with that.

But at least in the US of A that is a possible future and not the reality we live in.

>> No.70698323

>>70698240
lol you can even pay extra to ensure your package reaches it's destination, kinda like what the OP mentions but instead of packets it's mail

Why aren't they ensuring EVERY package is delivered?
wow i hate this two tiered system
Government intervention in government ran postal service when?

>> No.70698397

>>70695781
>complaining about workers getting fucked over by people making themselves rich while supporting a system where having more money gets you a bigger vote
woop woop retard detected

>> No.70698444

>>70694681
#PPC Vote for Maxime's party.

>> No.70698590

>>70693801
Is basic internet any more expensive as a result of this existing? Can you no longer game now that this exists? Does this offer better latency for better gaming experience?

>> No.70698922

>>70693983
>Not anticipating the advent of audiophile internet service

>> No.70698924

we know muricans love to suck corporate cox

>> No.70698940

>>70698924
porn license

>> No.70698944

>there are only 2 countries in the world
Sad!

>> No.70698952

>>70698940
-> >>70698944

>> No.70699000

>>70698952
article 13

>> No.70699434

fuckn gay

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