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Can this language just die already?

>> No.70278906

>>70278900
Considering that 80% of all web servers use PHP, it's not dying anytime soon... Sadly.

>> No.70278918

>>70278900
I blame Wordpress. Drupal is shit too.

>> No.70278934

>>70278900
>SEETHING

>> No.70278938

>>70278934
Cope

>> No.70278942

>>70278900
Honestly modern PHP isn't that bad. I mean it has its issues but so do Ruby, Python et al.

>>70278918
This right here is your issue. Wordpress needs to be cleansed with fire. It's the sole reason every web host offers ancient versions of PHP.

>> No.70278950

PHP requires a high IQ. If you don't like it's probably because your stupid

>> No.70279003 [DELETED] 

RUBYTODDLERS BTFO!

>> No.70279044

>>70278900
PHP7 is actually excellent and there's no reason to use something else for many use cases.

>> No.70279055

>>70278900
PHP is fine. Only JavaScript pajeets hate it.

>> No.70279099

>>70278918
>Drupal is shit too.
Drupal is infinite job security. I'd take a Drupal contract ironically knowing with all the engine hacks I have in my pocket it'll be repeat work at double the rate next time desu

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70279193

>>70278950
>php
>high skill

>> No.70279211

>>70279099
Don’t prepone - kindly do the needful

>> No.70279223

>>70279193
I said IQ not skill. Skills you can learn. PHP you have to be born to do.

>> No.70279233

>>70278900
Mad cuz bad

>> No.70279256
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70279256

>>70278900

PHP7 is actually quite nice and mature. You may not like some of its goofy legacy issues, like name conventions, but it's a solid, mature language with lots of support and libraries.

>> No.70279267

>>70279256
cope

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70279281

>>70279267

Why would I be coping? If I wanted to use another language, there is next to nothing stopping me. I could switch to anything at any time if I cared. I'm not beholden to any existing codebase that needs maintaining.

>> No.70279291

>>70279281
Seething

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>>70279223
>php
>high anything besides weed

>> No.70279381

>>70279055

Pajeets are to Javascript as Spic and Nigger diversity hires are to PHP.

>> No.70279528
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70279528

PHP was cool back in the 90ties, when the web was still simple, and you could make a quick buck with shitty webdesign for everyone. And they all wanted to have their website. Good times.
And of course it was PHP, because that is what you got with the cheapest contracts at ISPs for some webspace and a mysql database. And I guess, for small shitty projects, that's still a reasonable fit. Anything else? I'd rather not. Then again, I'd shoot myself if I'd still be involved with fucking web anything, front- nor backend. No thanks.

>> No.70279535

But... if you get rid of PHP, you get rid of Facebook!

>> No.70279541

>>70278942
> modern
shittiest buzz word

>> No.70279578

>>70278900
>What's wrong wit-...

>>70279528
Then I realized that despite what /g/ pretends to be, most of posters here can't do much besides stacking libraries and frameworks. Just like hating C and C++.

>> No.70279589

>>70279578
Fuck you, we wrote our own guest counters and guestbooks back in the day.

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70279602

php is 100% based
js soi bois absolutely seething

>> No.70281066

>>70279267
>>70279291
Lmao

>> No.70281078

The only language more hideous than PHP is Javascript, and not by much. I look forward to the day when both of them are dead.

>> No.70281305

>>70279589
Anything /g/ made in last year?

>> No.70281514

>>70279602
i agree with gigachad

>> No.70282008

>>70279602
this

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70282806

>'people' need to criticize an old version of a language to have any criticisms at all

>> No.70282832

>looking at jobs
>php developer
>$150k + benefits

>> No.70282846

>>70282832
yeah i could probably learn php in a week

>> No.70282870

>>70278900
It's comfy.

>> No.70282925

>>70279381
>that feeling when you are the only Mexican at your job
>PHP developer
not a diversity hire though, well not at first anyway; I am a manager.

>> No.70283037

>>70279541
not really, it just means a recent version.
AI, deep learning and machine learning are way worse.

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>>70279339
that's my wife!

>> No.70283134

>>70279339
top kek

>> No.70283228

http://phpsadness.com/

The language is ok, the standard library is shit. The frameworks and fig make up for it. WordPress is shit.

>> No.70283232

>>70278900
can php do meme learning?

>> No.70283274

>>70283232
Nah, use memeython.

>> No.70283416

>>70282846
So how do I learn php in a week?

>> No.70283484

>>70283416
>be good programmer
>look at php syntax
>???
>profit

>> No.70283520

>>70278918

So why hasnt anyone made a good (php based) cms yet? Like why are we still relying on wp an drupal?

>> No.70283568

>>70283416

setup a mysql database and make a website. it's not hard to learn. you can easily do a LAMP setup on an old desktop and start with that.

>> No.70284686

>>70279256
Where does this shitty retard opinion that PHP 7 somehow saved the language even come from? PHP is still just as broken as it ever was and the super primitive scalar typehinting and return type declarations have done nothing to fix the language's completely broken design.

>> No.70284923

>>70278900

Why should it die when tens of millions are fluent in it and the entire original internet has been written in it?

It only needs to be made safer.

>> No.70285066

>>70283520
There are a lot of different PHP CMS's. I barely tried any of them but I imagine some of them might be good. The problem is, what's good isn't necessarily successful.

>> No.70285129

>>70283416
Start learning.
Only take necessary short breaks.
Don't stop till you're done.
(If at an tie you feel like you can't do this then slap yourself in the face for being a useless POS, or do/think something similar)

>> No.70285134

>>70278900
just wrote a current events seo splog script in twenty minutes, can deploy on thousands of hosts in minutes... in LAMP.... feels good man

>> No.70285306

>>70283416
download a simple php source code of what you have an idea for, database or whatever then look at the code and dissect it piece by piece, you won't understand what a lot means just look at reference, one day BAM it start making sense it's one of easiest most valuable modern languages to learn

>> No.70285511

Excuse me all the twats. PHP has the best documentation existing. Pythons documentation is pure shit and splitting it on 2.7 and 3+ is maddness

>> No.70285624

>>70285511

>Pythons documentation is pure shit

OP here and I definitely agree with that.

>> No.70285632

>>70279193
The Kong™

>> No.70285763

>>70278900
It's currently the best language for web backend.

>> No.70286017

>>70285511
python2 is dead at this point unless you work somewhere where people are retarded and don't let you upgrade to packages that aren't older than 10 years

>> No.70286325

>>70286017
I think most pythonfags don't know what they're doing anyhow

>> No.70287271

>>70278900
why
its fast af

>> No.70287278

>>70278900
Make a better alternative and done.

>> No.70287295

>>70278950
>your

>> No.70287305

>>70279602
amen bro
how is my code?
}else {
die(">tfw you can't fill out 5 input boxes");
}

>> No.70287318

>>70283568
>linux
ok
>apache
in the trash it goes, use nginx
>mysql
in the trash it goes, use postgresql or sqlite
>php
ok

>> No.70288089

>>70287318
Almost every serious project is on LEPP by now

>> No.70288505

>>70288089
I hate how they make nginx an E
fuckin terrorism that is.
LNPP
LNSP
LEPP
LESP

fuck vowels

>> No.70288676

>>70288089
>>70287318
why do i need distinct webserver? PHP7.0 has integrated http webserver

>> No.70288708

>>70288676
lol

>> No.70288897

>>70278900
Why is it that languages that actually help people get things done are the most hated?

>> No.70289034

>>70288897
because "getting things done" means "put shit together without a second thought" and that means something that's gonna be more unstable or harder to extend or both

>> No.70289047

>>70289034
>put shit together without a second thought
And how is that the fault of the language?

>> No.70289121

>>70289047
each language is a tool that encourages some paradigms and discourages others. you can fight against it, but most people don't, and as such the tool is partially responsible for many of the faults of the code produced with it

>> No.70289704

>>70285129
You can't learn PHP in a week. It will take more than that, a month maybe.

>> No.70291169

>>70278900
Why? I bring home a 6 digit salary on PHP development in a nice city with amazing benefits. And if I ever need extra cash, there is no shortage of short-time freelance jobs I can charge $100 an hour for.

It's fine; sure it has some issues, but so do other languages. The only thing you can complain about is the pure amount of garbage web site and app implementations you can run across; however, if you aren't a chump begging for jobs, you just turn away those clients and only work on well written code bases.

This shit has put a lot of food on my table, and actually created a good amount of job enjoyment. A well written application in PHP is just as satisfying to write, enhance, document, and curate as in any other language.

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>>70278900
People write shit code in every language, but only in PHP is there this much pajeet blog spam with bad instructions.

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