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Let's talk about Topre edition
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>Keyboard wiki

Last thread >>67796241

>> No.67837416

how the fuck did someone bend a keyboard without snapping the plastic?

>> No.67837423

It's made of silicone dumbass

>> No.67837431

The entire thing is made out of rubber

>> No.67838000
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Is pic related just a meme or is it actually good?

>> No.67838037
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I don't get why anyone likes torpe, it's just rubber dome with a spring.

>> No.67838122

because rubber domes > mechanical
there's a reason aspie clicky clack keyboards died out to rubber dome over membrane

>> No.67838836

I've used gaming keyboards in the past but I was very impressed by a really old "Monterey dome with slider" keyboard I found, the keycaps are double-shot and it feels like pressing on a rubber dome but it's "snappy", it presses back up with noticeable force. I also found some mech keyboard straight from Cherry, MX clears apparently, it feels really good but it's actually quite unpractical to type on. Now I want to try ALPS since I am pretty sure it's something I used to use when I was a child. How difficult is it to find actually?

>> No.67838860

They're more common because they're cheap and most people don't care you fucking nigger

>> No.67839161

>it feels really good but it's actually quite unpractical to type on
Are clears really that impractical? I admit I don't exclusively type all day, but I do need to send a lot of emails and search through parts websites for most of the day and haven't run into any issues.
Also, regarding alps, MechanicalKeyboards.com has two KBParadise boards that use Alps switches. Well the 60% does, the TKL apparently uses and Alps clone.

>> No.67839255

I'd like to try Topre some day, it's shame that everything that uses them is so ridiculously expensive.

>> No.67839268

I don't know but a guy at work uses one and he swears it's great for him.

>> No.67839276

The problem with ordinary rubber domes is mainly that you have to bottom out to get them to register, and also that they're very inconsistent in activating even when you do so, forcing you to pound the keys to get any consistency when typing fast. Topre switches have neither of those problems.

>> No.67839286

I got to try Topre out at a meetup, it's honestly pretty damned nice and I'm planning on picking one up at some point in the next month, but the whole "Oneness of Cup Rubber" thing is definitely overblown.

>> No.67839292
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You need to go back in time before all the meme switches showed up. Topres were the most tactile and smoothest switches around and there was no other option beside scavenging for old keyboards. Adding to that Topres were only slightly expensive when compared to the competition while also being more durable and lasting longer so people happily paid the premium for them. Of course since then Cherry has retooled all their switches to make them as smooth as Topres while dropping prices by over 60%, plus Gateron and Kailh have come out with switches that are more tactile and just as smooth for a fraction of the price. Now days Topre is just subsisting of their reputation of being a premium brand. It's better to just buy a topre clone and swap out the domes with BKE ones

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It's a meme
get a malt instead

>> No.67839321

>before all the meme switches showed up
Pretty much all the meme switches (unless you include modern Cherry clones) are pretty much exactly as old as Topre. All of them hail from the early-to-mid 80s, since that's when all keyboards were being redesigned for smaller form factors.

>> No.67839332

The thing is that I'm already using a (Unicomp) Model M, so they have a pretty high bar to beat.

>> No.67839343

I was mostly talking about the 2012-2015 era since most of the switches you're referring to have long been discontinued

>> No.67839380

Topres have a very different feeling when compared to a model M. Imagine a clickbar switch, but without the noise and even smoother

>> No.67839386

2012 was already well into the /mkg/ era, though. I got my first Unicomp in 2009 or something (don't remember exactly) and there were Cherry boards all around.

>> No.67839388

so i just bought these, how would these compare to topre?

>> No.67839442
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I spilled soup on my ducky shine 3 a few days ago
Disassemble the entire thing so I can clean everything. When everything was dry I tested the keyboard to make sure it still works and it did. Yesterday the 5 pin usb connector got loose so I connected it back and I got a "USB is not recognized" message. Hours of research and trying to find the problem turns out I put the connector the wrong way. It isn't keyed so it got fucked due to reverse polarity. Don't buy ducky keyboards.

>> No.67839463

When did Cherry stop making their own keyboards?

>> No.67839511

Then you should know how expensive cherry keyboards were if you wanted something decent and that there were no other options until just the past couple years. Gaterons had massive issues up until late 2016 that Varmilo still doesn't offer warranties for their Gateron keyboards. Box switches only came out recently and already the first run had issues with keycaps stretching and splitting. Kailh clones are so shit that razer ended up ditching them and partnering with Greetech to make something serviceable. Cherry was selling a piece of shit G80s for almost a hundred bucks three years ago and the cheapest mech keyboard around was a lolita for 80-90 bucks. If you wanted a smooth and tactile switch you either got a topre or paid even more money for wobblios. You seem to have already forgotten how much the industry has improved in such a rapid time thanks to the chinese.

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It's kinda crazy how bad things were not that long ago. If you wanted a good mech keyboard you either got a filco for 150 bucks with pad printed ABS, or a Ducky for 120 that would die after 6 months because they used the chinkiest components. I can see how people thought that paying 180-200 for a topre board was a good idea since those came with PBT caps. Thank God the Chinese got their act together.

>> No.67839645

A long time ago. Cherry got rid of most of their tooling since they were struggling financially

>> No.67840017

t. aspie who needs his keyboard to make clicking noises to please him

>> No.67840070
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I just bought this thing

now what?

>> No.67840093

Sell it and buy a membrane keyboard

>> No.67840569
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Just got pic related

It's really comfy

>> No.67840595

Get some new keycaps for it, I'm enjoying my Maxkey SA set, but for something cheaper look at Tai-Hao stuff. If you want a taste of different profiles while spending a bit less money check the DSA sets on KBDFans or KPRepublic.
Enjoy your new keyboard!

>> No.67840614

Wait, does that use the Romer switches or whatever? Disregard what I said about new keycaps, you're stuck with what you've got in that case.

>> No.67840820

You could have at least bought the right one with Topre switches.

>> No.67840848

not really a fan of topre

>> No.67840906

Then you should have bought alps/matias/Romer g. Anything is better than that plastic garbage.

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>> No.67840971

>recommending mechanicals
you're a fucking moron

>> No.67841968
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If you had to pick between Red or Brown switches what would you go for?

>> No.67842040

Browns are terrible tactiles. Reds are way too light for my taste, but they're a decent linear if you like the weighting.

Tactiles in general are garbage. If you want really good tactility, you pretty much need something that clicks unless you get some royals or something with a similar heavy bump. Browns are terrible even among the other tactile failures.

You'll be much happier in life if you just go for click and linear. If you need tactile without the click, then that's when you should start looking at stuff like nicely tactile rubber domes like BTC and Topre.

>> No.67842117

Honestly, I want to get blue ones but I'm worried about the noise it'll make. But it sounds like between red and brown that red are superior?

I'm used to membrane keyboards, that is what I'm using now, there's no click on these but I guess there is a light bump as you push them down.

>> No.67842148

Get matias quiet click if you want tactility and low noise.

>> No.67842198

were I live I don't have all that many options. I pretty much have to choose between the MX switches and that's it.

Unless I wanna put 300 dollars on a keyboard, which I do not.

>> No.67842219

Try MX Black or Clear. They're more in line with what you're already used to.

>> No.67842249
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Everything I've read about Black make them sound pretty terrible though. The keyboard I'm using now is very light to press down on, and pretty noisy too desu. It's an old ibm keyboard I got for 3 dollars.

I kind of love how it feels.

>> No.67842314

I have that exact keyboard IBM KB-7953. It came with my Pentium II IBM back in 1995. It's a good rubber dome with good tactility and absolutely silent compared to what you're looking at. Take it apart. Wash the caps, dome sheet and top plate. Regrease the stabalizers and be happy with what you got. It's a hundred times more smooth and tactile than MX Browns. It's better than the rubber dome versions of the F and M.

It's also roughly the same weight as MX Blacks. You have no idea how light reds are. It's criminal.

>> No.67842400

Hmm, interesting. Well you've definitely ruled out browns for me.
Are rubber domes generally heavy as fuck to press down on then? Because every rubber dome I've owned (which are the only keyboards I've owned) have been heavier on the press than these. That's why I loved this keyboard so much when I got it.
You can't be serious about these being silent though? It is the noisiest keyboard I've ever had by a mile. Watching videos of reds/browns being used they sound much quieter. I honeslty wouldn't be surprised if these are on the same level as blues.

>> No.67842421

>generally heavy as fuck to press down on then?
Yes. They're like 75g+ while that IBM is around 50g

>can't be serious about these being silent though?

Not as quiet as modern chiclet crap but miles more quiet than any undamped mechanical switches.

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>> No.67842481
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50g sounds about right, but the reds arent much lighter at 45.
A thorough cleaning by taking it apart might make it better, but right now it can be a little inconsistent at times with keys not registering.

I''m not against trying something new. I don't think this keyboard is perfect, although I do like it. It's just, feels like it is time for something new. The Ducky One 2 Skyline looks good but you've made me even more uncertain when it comes to switches, I still feel like blues would fit me best, I'm just slightly concerned about the noise.

Which switches do you like best?

>> No.67842491

which cheap keyboard should I get for programming only? It needs to be comfortable and for the love of god, quiet.

>> No.67842517

Are there any Hall effect/optical switches out there being sold separately? I want to DIY a keyboard having one of these.

>> No.67842536

My happy spot is 55-65g. But I'm probably not the best guy to ask. I like really old stuff, especially cleaning and fixing it up, and I don't care about sound. I'm typing on an old Model F right now and that's like the complete opposite of quiet.

Blues are not super loud but they have a high plastic pitch that can be heard a whole room away. That's what drives people in offices crazy. Shouldn't bother you typing though if you're alone.

>> No.67842557

I have open-back headphones so sound leak through on them, which might get a little annoying if I'm listening to music or something.
Also I live at home, and might annoy others here. But, honestly, I'm leaning more blue than anything else right now.

>> No.67842587

>I have open-back headphones

Same. I have an SR-007 Mk I. Doesn't bug me though. Hearing the audible feedback actually makes me type faster. But I don't live with people it would bother either.

>> No.67842641

Fucking hell, those are expensive cans.

>> No.67842667


>> No.67842671

i have that keyboard. im not really sure why but its been useful in the past at least

>> No.67842684

>Romer G

>> No.67842763

I only paid about $900 used before they jumped up in price and built my own amp. Worth it though. Haven't wanted to chase upgrades in over 3 years and cleared out the rest of my headphones except a pair of iem's for travel.

Never got to that point with keyboards though. I haven't gone crazy like some people with hundreds, but I still have like eight and I need to trim that down.

>> No.67842916

someone stop me from making a custom HHKB with hako royal true.

Also why does massdrop exsist when all they do is middle man kbdfan shit?

>> No.67843512

You can buy HP optical switches separately, but they don't have the same pin out as cherry MX so you either have to hand wire or print a custom PCB

>> No.67843521
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My Unicomp's Esc key gets stuck sometimes. I suspect it's related to the fact that the mold isn't quite centered around it. Taking the keycap and putting it back on resolves.

>> No.67844039

>Also why does massdrop exsist when all they do is middle man kbdfan shit?
Because people have got to save that $5, even if it means a 6 month wait time. And it does at least give a decent way to offer custom colorways in niche profiles.
Fucking Unicomp, garbage people who don't give a fuck about you once you've bought their janky shit.

>> No.67844041
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>tfw typing on cherry mx switches

>> No.67844067

The worst part is that Unicomp made SSKs up until 2008 and when they couldn't afford to make them they just threw away the tooling. I'm glad that the model F reproduction project went so smoothly cause it shows how incompetent and lazy Unicomp is.

>> No.67844126

Like clockwork.
Holy shit they fucking WHAT?! Why would they just throw it away? I'm sure SOMEONE would have taken it off their hands for some dosh. And yeah I met the model F repro guy, he seemed alright and genuinely wants to get those boards out. Don't personally see the need for them to be literally 7 pounds, but I wouldn't mind getting my hands on one of those compact versions though.

>> No.67844238

gosh those are painful to use, you're better off with the virtual keyboard and a fucking mouse
whoever invented this should be gassed

>> No.67844371
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you can get the smol version of the model F. It weighs about as much as a model M despite being made of metal. He said he had issues with the metal sheets being thin so he doubled the the screw count in order for everything to be held together. He made them as light as he possibly could since he knew not everyone wanted a monstrously heavy keyboard

>> No.67844496

Actually Unicomp never had the tooling, just leftovers. If you wanted a SSK they'd make you one out of old parts that were sitting in a warehouse. The last ones were sold off in 2008 for like 70 bucks

>> No.67845783

HP as in Hewlett-Packard? Or something else?

>> No.67846134

Yes that HP. They make optical switches for gaming keyboards

>> No.67846170

I have that keyboard in my art room for typing on my hands are covered in wet clay.

>> No.67846396

Ok, so all I could find from a quick search is that they make a keyboard with some sort of hybrid between optical and mechanical switches, claiming 70 million keypresses. Shouldn't these switches have a longer lifespan, given that they have no contact?

>> No.67846774

>that's not even my final form

>> No.67847025

honestly hako royals are absolutely worth the price, if you want actually tactile switches with mx mount. got the clears myself though, no regrets

>> No.67847139

idk why anyone would want one of these cucksavers desu

>> No.67847223
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It's probably because of the way the plastic moves inside the switch. Anyway I circled the switch that I'm talking about. You can get them from HP's spare parts, but I doubt they'll give you enough to build a full size keyboard

>> No.67847256

So you can bully the other 60% keyboards at the next hipster bar meet. The zinc case is far too heavy for the average redditor to carry around.

>> No.67847304

i think you might be able to get flaretech optical switches from aliexpress or something, but you would need to have an ir led and a sensor for every switch idk how the hp ones work but they look interesting

>> No.67847318 [DELETED] 

didnt expect such a good answer damn

>> No.67847371

wait what? a good answer in /mkg/? I think you had the wrong thread

>> No.67847624

would a shock collar improve my typing speed?

>> No.67847642

So should i get a fc660c or fc980c (i like the extra keys on the 980 but the offset arrow keys trigger me so I haven't decided yet) or should i not bother with topre?
Also, what 60% bluetooth mech with decent build quality would you recommend? Want something relatively cheap (max 100€) and durable to use with box switches.

>> No.67847651

no but a chastity cage will

>> No.67847780
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I knew /mkg/ was a reddit general but this is too much

>> No.67847904

I think I'd rather go the Flaretech route, because I think the Wooting One keyboard, which uses these, has interchangeable switches, no soldering required. It's probably easier to get these, judging by this fact.

I suppose I'll have to get dirty with PCBs if I want to get the IR LED and the sensor working there.

>> No.67848576

are Matias Quiet Clicks any good?

>> No.67848848

Waiting for Dygma Raise. Its a split ergo keyboard with a ton of hardware feature and open firmware and software. It's not ortholinear so even normies can use it without fucking around . 4x split space bar and 3x under row low profile modifier/ macro keys mean you can actually use the goddamn things instead of being halfway off some gaming board or whatnot pushed off the left side.

Should be comfy.

>> No.67848879

They're pretty decent. The loudest part of the board would be the keycap rattle (still pretty quiet nonetheless). That's just something you have to take with the alps design though.

>> No.67849044
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>It's not ortholinear
why would you buy this over the iris or a dox

>> No.67849273

Dox needs an update. No solderless switch swapping or backlighting including rgb potential, the difference between Dox kit, Infinity, and EZ tweak a few things

Iris is neat but pretty much build your own for something similar but not quite like the Dox or Raise. Lacks some features.

Other one I considered was Keyboardio but it's non standard layout means limited keycap and switch support as well as something big to get used to

Some don't like ortholinear or share their peripherals. Dygma has best feature set overall and can pretty much be used as a one hand pad, or regular board or split ergo. I may still look into an updated Ergodox type to compare but the Dygma Raise seems to be uniquely position in the market

>> No.67849296

>Lacks some features.
like what

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>tfw typing on gateron reds

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Wasn't really happy with the side print being white ontop of light grey keys so I changed them out. Might leave it like this what do ya fellas think

>> No.67851257

Hi im posting from mobile i hate mobile i wish i had a very small usb keeb w me i already ady have an otg cable whats a good choice i have ducky tkl one browb at home

>> No.67851358
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If you like Ducky then why not stick with them

>> No.67851427

I need something almost odt as small as my phone
I mean ofc it should be bigger
Ducky doesnt manafacture these
I need one if these retarded suprr small meme layouts but i know nothing about them please respond

>> No.67851446

Sorry didnt see your pic
Im not sure ill find these in Europe byt ill look at em thanks

>> No.67851461
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>next run of reproduction model F keyboards will have a trackpoint
good thing I waited

>> No.67851488
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How small are we talking about?
Just so you know that pic was taken by a 23 foot man so his hands are a bit bigger then yours. That's just a standard 60% keyboard, and yes you can get them in Europe

>> No.67851541

should have bought stax

>> No.67851555

desu I'm a leopold fan
I got this Varmilo to try out mx brown switches and some of their LEDs. I like them, now I will get another leopold in browns.

>> No.67851570

wait are you referring to fucking headphones?

>> No.67851659
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I honestly really want one of those, seems better than an ergodox based on ergodox complaints.

>> No.67851695
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Mech keyboards are the biggest tech meme ever.

>> No.67851736
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agreed. membrane keyboards are the way to go

>> No.67851808


The only thing mech keyboards have going for them is the design. I fell for the meme too, but reality is that the Logitech keyboard blows them a part in terms of typing speed and comfort which are the things that matter.

The Ducky TKL is sexy as fuck though, they should have made it membrane instead of mechshit.

>> No.67851854

link to the 2nd kb?

>> No.67851871


It's Ducky One 2 Skyline.

>> No.67851883
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Ducky's are sexy, but lets be real mechanical keyboards have no effect on typing speed. If you bought one thinking that it would help you there, then you fell for the memes.

>> No.67851922


Nah, I bought them because I fell for the comfort meme. I had no complaints until I bought this little Logitech keyboard to use at night time, but it turned out to be the most comfy keyboard I have ever typed on.

>> No.67852103

The Anne Pro 2 is a pretty solid 60% bt keyboard. My girlfriend just got one with gateron blues and it's pretty great aside from the fact that the bt didn't connect until I updated the firmware and flicked it off and on a couple of times.
Regarding Topre all I can say is try to get your hands on one before pulling the trigger, felt very different from what I envisioned. I'd get the fc660c if it was me but I don't really care for the form factor of the 980.

>> No.67852131

What's the most comfortable keyboard you have? I really want a split matrix keyboard just because they seem so much comfier; holding my hands over a keyboard, even in a good seating position, just starts to wear on me. Right hand is the worst because mouse and I really only need the mouse for web browsing and some shitty applications I work with that have no good CLI.

Really guys is the whole tented-split-matrix stuff a meme or is it worth dropping serious cash on one? Keyboard.io seems like the best of the ones I've looked at without shelling out for a Maltron. Kinesis Advantage2 is about the same price but I really like the function-palming and don't have time to hack new buttons onto a $340 keyboard when another similarly priced one seems to have already figured it out. Also, I've heard of Advantage2 still having bugs to the point where some folks change out the board and load custom firmware. I don't really care for the wood color but that's far less important than feeling comfortable. Having my hands spread out tented and fairly stationary with mouse and arrows and everything a handroll away is really tempted my savings account.

>> No.67852200

What's the first keyboard?

>> No.67852351

Looks like an old Ducky Shine. Probably a 3 or 4
don't buy one, they're shitty keyboards

>> No.67852458

>don't buy one, they're shitty keyboards
Not him but I have one of those, what makes them bad?

>> No.67852537

They were plagued with PCB failures that Ducky ended up redesigning them and now sells them under the Zero and One series which are excellent keyboards

>> No.67852576

Well guess I got lucky then since it took 3 years of abuse without failing.
Doesn't really matter since I'm most likely ditching it for a brand new Hori EDGE-201 I just got for 40 bucks.

>> No.67852637


Ducky Shine 4, yes.


Ducky Shine 4 didn't have the PCB failure like the 3. It's a good keyboard, but the texture on the keys are kind of glossy so I would keep that in mind.

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>> No.67852666
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Oh don't mind me, I'm just STILL the only keyboard that can change backlight color according to processor temperature.

>> No.67852706

nice try satan
Some Cooler Masters, Corsairs, and Logitechs can do that to

>> No.67853003

this one any good?

>> No.67853672

Thomas is a cool dude. I like talking with him on deskthority.

>> No.67853695

Layout affects it for me. I found that the more centered the alphas, the faster and more accurately I type. But I hate compact bullshit. Need my F row and number pad. So that sticks me mostly with 85% and terminal layouts from the ancient days. I like it though.

>> No.67854036

I really want to get my hands on a novatouch, I've been browsing mechmarket for a couple days now and every time one comes up it's either modified to hell and back and out of my price range, overpriced, or reasonably priced and snapped up instantly.
What do?

>> No.67854060

build a time machine and go back two years

>> No.67854077

Is there any decent wireless mechanical keyboards without the num pad or stupid useless meme audio controls?

>> No.67854114

It's also on Massdrop for $99.99

>> No.67854563

F choc mini
u were great to me

>> No.67855123

What would be a great mechanical keyboard for office use? I'm looking for something tactile but as silent as possible

>> No.67855676
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>> No.67855746

Good luck playing video games with these...

>> No.67855813

get a 40% olkb. can't get much smaller without having to make crazy compromises. look at planck, niu mini, or bfo 9000. or if you are ok with tap keys and such, get a gherkin.
choc versions of these like the dilly will make it slimmer too

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>buying an ergo keyboard for gayming

>> No.67855856

ergonomic keyboards are actually better for gaming than standard ones, i have the left half of an ergodox just for playing games on and it's so much better

>> No.67855988

A lot of older rubber domes are miles better than the crap they sell in stores these days.

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Question, I have a Corsair Strafe with cherry browns. How difficult would it be to swap out the switches in it?

I was cleaning it the other day and noticed the metal cover was solidly attached to the circuit board through what looked like some metal pins of some sort. Worth modifying? Or should I just get a keyboard thats more modifiable out the box?

Thanks anons.

>> No.67856441

If it has backlighting.Medium difficultly if you have no experience in soldering.

>> No.67856455

I never got the point of the tracepoint if you have a fucking mouse, but good for you guys.

>Unless you plan on using the model f as a portable keyboard then kys. You are a problem to this society.

>> No.67856487

No experience. In fact, I'm quite confident if soldering is involved I'll fuck something up.

Any recommendations for keyboards you can swap switches out without soldering?

>> No.67856518

gmmk, Zhuque, etc. They all cost around 50-70 usd

>> No.67857037

$130 US
>Location (continent at least)
>Preferred switch type
I currently have browns, but want something more tactile.
>Form factor
TKL or full
Preferably a white or RGB backlight but none is also fine. Not really a deal breaker for me.
>Previous/current keyboards

>> No.67857456

thermaltake's gaming line has that as well for their newer rgb stuff

>> No.67857483

maybe don't be an idiot and spill soup on your board instead, yeah?

>> No.67857709

Buy keyboard with or without numpad? I currently have no media keys on this keyboard so I use numpad shortcuts for media players to change songs/volume. If I buy a keyboard without a numpad I feel like it'll just complicate things even further.

but they look a lot better without them.

>> No.67857789

How do I clean my keyboard quickly

>> No.67857798

With number pad but no nav cluster. Saves space without gimping you.

>> No.67857804

soak it in acetone for 2 days

>> No.67857807

Take caps off. Blow out with compressor.

>> No.67857856

here's what I did

>pull out keys, put em in hot water mixed with metho
>take off keyboard covers, clean in between switches with qtips
>use towel to wipe off grim on keys

Takes maybe an hour depending on how slow you're going.

>> No.67858016

How much louder are the blue switches really?

>> No.67858295

>how much louder
than what

I wouldn't use them in a quiet office with my coworkers around but it's fine in my room with my door closed. i had a roommate with kailh blues and I didn't mind

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>> No.67858374

Or just plan ahead and mark/take a picture of the connector orientation before disassembly.

>> No.67858376

About two to three times as loud as a normal rubber dome

>> No.67858386

The only people who need a numpad are data entry cucks.

>> No.67858406

You forgot the gamers. Us CS:GO tryhards need our binds.

>> No.67858439

have a layer that makes the left split a function key numpad when held down. zxcvb can be grenades and buy binds.. there's no excuse for faggotry anon

>> No.67858447

How do you use keys 3 hand widths away?
Doesn't moving your hand over to reach the numpad waste a bunch of time?

>> No.67858491

If you said mmo players need their macros I would have understood, but that's just terrible

>> No.67858550

Man I use my right hand for that. It's fine because you got 10 seconds to buy stuff before the next round starts. It's much faster to use binds than navigate that POS of a menu.

>> No.67858598

Don't those nerds usually go for those MMO Mouse bullcrap?

>> No.67858613

are there any liquid keyboards
I want one in my cup

>> No.67858625

you'll look like a faggot using one of these
caricature kool haxors from movies use it

>> No.67858633

I use it when I need to type in numbers in sequence, like my bank number. Doing stuff like that on the top numbers is just tedious.

>> No.67858654


Step 1. Get a MaKey MaKey.

Step 2. ???

Step 3. Profit!

>> No.67858684

They do, but if you want even more macros you can get a keyboard with a numpad. Most of the time those macros are just used for trades

>> No.67858708

Gee. Aren't those MMO Mouse a PITA to hold though?

>> No.67859007

why the fuck is E letter is separated from the other keys?

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Bond, James Bond

>> No.67859054

likely because it's one of the most used letters, so gets an easy to reach spot.

>> No.67859087

Should I get this?

>> No.67859118


Like the layout, hate the glowing keys.

>> No.67859138

whats wrong with back lit keys

>> No.67859151

I think they look really tacky.

I think that the Leopold ones look much better. Example: https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=3545

>> No.67859170

looks tacky, more things to break, often paired with proprietary drivers/software, unnecessary complexity, etc

>> No.67859203

Is an IBM Model M keyboard (https://www.amazon.com/IBM-Keyboard-Model-M-1391401/dp/B00F4FHY64) worth buying still?

>> No.67859223

Yes, but that's a bit much for one. I'd get one on ebay instead

>> No.67859242

Alright thanks.

>> No.67859268

As someone who is up during the night I need it. I dont some keys.

>> No.67859289

You could just turn the light on. Indoor lighting has been a thing for decades.

>> No.67859298

Wait. You don't know how to type?

>> No.67859301

And then I have to explain my parents why I'm up late again... yeah no I'd rather use backlit keys.

>> No.67859304

.....oh my god I'm a fucking retard you're right. This is incredible!

>> No.67859311

hhahaahahahahahahaha you're fucking 17 and don't even know how to type. Get the fuck off this website you retarded newfag fuck.

>> No.67859336

>being underage
well that explains why you'd want a backlight, tho it's not really a habit you'd want to have

>> No.67859413

I dont know what the function keys are or numbers without a numpad
Still gotta strain unless the light is max brightness

>> No.67859449

how long have you been using a keyboard for? surely after about a year you'd know where all the keys are and don't need a backlight to help you. Function keys and numbers are some of the easiest thing to learn since they're physically separated.

>> No.67859473

sorry, not the functions themselves but the fn. Also since I never use them, I have no muscle memory for them. Same with the numbers not on the numpad.

>> No.67859540

fagotry is more like actually getting anything less than a 101 key keyboard that is newer than the ibm model m.

>> No.67859548

Fn I can understand, but number rows? like what they're all in a straight line at the top of the alpha cluster. how can you not know where they are

>> No.67859558

just get something with light keycaps and dark legends on them and so even at night time the light from your monitor will light it up enough. and if your monitor is really dark for some reason just use the 2 bumps on f and j.

>> No.67859576

Not everyone is an accountant. IBM knew this since the 1970s which is why they made keyboards without the number pad

>> No.67859607

Id rather not count to look for keys

>> No.67859617

how much of a brainlet are you?
are you even old enough to post on 4chan?

>> No.67859630

thumb keys are more important.

>> No.67859676

so old I dont find insults hurtful or entertaining anymore

>> No.67859688

ok well i still use the numberpad whenever im typing a number thats longer than like 3 digits. so it is useful to me even though i dont work in data entry.

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When taking apart an old rubber dome keyboard, is it safe to just wash the dome sheet with water and let it dry after?

>> No.67859703

>doesn't know how to type
>lives with his parents
good one

>> No.67859726

IBM, HP, Realforce, and Dell addressed this issue by adding a numpad layer to their keyboard for the occasional time you need to enter long strings of numbers. This has been a common practice since the 80s

>> No.67859740

Making assumptions wont hide the fact that you dont have a point.

>> No.67859747

I didn't tho, you said it in your own posts

>> No.67859754

Never said where I live, or that I dont know how to type.

>> No.67859767

if you knew how to type you wouldn't have those problems

>> No.67859778

Not knowing where special keys are doesn't mean I live with my parents nor are they a requirement for typing.

>> No.67859783

but it isnt in an ortholinear layout though. also i have a fuck ton of desk space too and having no numpad only saves like 3 inches.

>> No.67859825

you don't know how to type which is why you want a backlit keyboard
and 90% of people who don't know how to type are either young or old, and I doubt anyone that old would post on 4chan so it's a logical assumption to make that you're young and thus live with your parents
you could just be stupid, but I'd rather not make that assumption

>> No.67859883

Not even trying anymore. But Im too old to argue with fallacies.

>> No.67859892

Good maybe then you could learn how to actually type

>> No.67860073

No attempt at formulating a point I see.

>> No.67860223

I don't need to since I already know how to type on a keyboard, but you don't. So have you bought that chink keyboard with that gaudy font and cheap LEDs. Maybe after they go out you'd learn how to type

>> No.67860630

>he doesn't wash his hands after every keyboard use
How does anyone even get their keyboards dirty in the 1st place?
You guys don't eat over them do you...

>> No.67860883

imagine the red with intel house fire

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maybe a vortex core/kbdfans kit depending on if you wanna build it or not.

>> No.67861279

not a huge orthofag but if you wanna try for fairly cheap keeb.io has some interesting layouts

>> No.67861333

those super cheap cherry clones manage to make blues sound more aids than they already do

>> No.67861352

are those g20 keycaps?

>> No.67861428

a keyboard made of dogshit

>> No.67861492

other than being tacky, just an excuse to not buy proper keycaps

>> No.67861559
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I still have my Leopold but I don't mind these lights

>> No.67861615

>>he doesn't wash his hands after every keyboard use
why the fuck would washing them after using the keyboard matter you god damn poof

>> No.67861747

So I don't get the caps oily. duh brainlet

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what's that supposed to mean?
use your big boy words

>> No.67861866

C'mon now, fella

>> No.67861914

oh nvm...guess I'm the brainlet after all.
I meant "before"...

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apologize already

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I'm sorry anon..
f-forgive me?

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>> No.67862339

This guy isn't me btw I'm not with this nerd

>> No.67862400

I'm considering getting https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=43 with green Alps. Anyone tried it? Are green alps really that smooth?

>> No.67862402

I just got a $100 amazon gift card from CC cashbacks.
Thinking about just waiting until Black Friday though since it's not that far away. Do mech keeb sales have significant price drops?

>> No.67862605

Dude, exactly what point are you trying to make? You look like a retard chastising people you don't know over ridiculous assumptions. He can't type? How the fuck is he replying to you?

I find it ironic you claim he's a kid yet you make childish, sweeping statements in much the same way an arrogant teenager does. Shut the fuck up.

>> No.67863161

No, Amazon's black Friday sales suck for computer peripherals and mechanical keyboards barely get reasonable price drops.

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Took your advice and cleaned it. It had been a while, kek.

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Looks so much better.

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>> No.67863579

Ah ok
Guess I'll start browsing now then.

>> No.67863675

Thanks. I honestly have no idea where to try topres. The only tactiles i have tried are cherry browns and i kinda liked them but they were too scratchy. I only have experience with cheap dell and logitech membranes, some chiclet rapoo keyboard with chocolate switches or whatever the fuck, some cherries I've tried in stores and a romer-g logitech board a friend of mine has.
I have no experience with good stuff so i think it'd be easy to find something that satisfies me. The only reason I've decided on topre and box switches is my online "research".

>> No.67863713

Buy a Duky One TKL, I'm enjoying mine.

>> No.67863785

Well if he knew how to type then he wouldn't need a backlight. It's preposterous to say that you need a backlight if you know how to type

>> No.67863919
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I got a Das Keyboard ultimate (the one with no labels) about 8 years ago. I didn't know much about mechanical keyboards back then and heard about it in the StarCraft community.
I would buy a different one now, but this keyboard has lasted me through very heavy use over 8 years. It even survived having beer poured on it (it had sticky keys after that which took a few months to return to normal)

I like the blank keys. They helped me break a few bad habits like looking down when typing symbols. They also make more sense when using alternative keymaps, and imo when using software like vim where the letters don't exactly correlate to the action they perform.

If I bought a new keyboard, I'd possibly choose different switches. I'd definitely want a detachable cable. I'd also like to have media and macro keys. For $100 or whatever this one cost, it's far outlived what I needed to get my moneys worth though

>> No.67864029

Spend a few extra bucks and get the 87 key tenkeyless version.

(See what I did there with the URL? - Learn it.)

>> No.67864320

Hey /mkg/, so I just removed the clickbar from a loose box navy switch and it's basically endgame. 80 gram spring + the smoothest linear I have ever used. Highly recommend.

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>being this retarded

>> No.67864975


Nice. Amazing how well even old rubber domes clean up.

>> No.67865308

Touch typing != typing

>> No.67865449
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Recently got this gigabyte reds keyboard, was pretty cheap. Was wondering if these last long or not, cause no info about keystrokes anywhere about it and seems to be a pretty underrated buy, was only 40 bucks

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You could've gotten a Drevo for 50

>> No.67866153

I got a Corsair K65 RGB Rapidfire and I can't fucking sell it.

The keyboard (new) costs £119.99 and I'm trying to sell it for £40, used for half a year, and no one fucking wants it.

The only problem is that the USB pass-through on the back is broken.

What the fuck? £40?

Explain to me /mkg/, please

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I just ordered a bunch of oRings for my Ergodox. Fucking hype to silence these clears a little.

>> No.67866188

Wouldn't hurt to bookmark what you want and then wait to see if there's a sale just in case

>> No.67866331

Yeah so far it was just the IKBC F87 but the cord isn't detachable... so the KD87 I guess.. No rgbs, but I can live with that.
I'll probably just wait though. I looked up the BF deals from last year, and some of the %s off were high enough where I can hold off a few weeks. Could use what I save to buy some caps or something.

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>guy have mechanical keyboard
>discord voice chat while playing ruined for the rest

>> No.67866658

It's your own fault for using discord.

>> No.67866678

>some Taiwanese mech keyboard with subpar build quality cost as much as the top of the line mainstream "gaming" keyboards
How do you justify this?

>> No.67866932

Are you talking about something specifically? Use a Leopold after a Corsair then maybe you can pull your head out of your ass

>> No.67867034

what? of course it is. if you're above the age 12 and under the age of 60 and can't type without looking at the keyboard you're mentally retarded.

>> No.67867063

>I overpaid for this keyboard so everyone else must also overpay
That should be pretty self explanatory

>> No.67867119

I can't believe you're still going on about this. Sucks you know how to type.

>> No.67867144

What kind of mental gymnastics is that? It's not my problem he doesn't know how to type. If he's gonna keep going on about how looking like a retarded is normal then I'm gonna keep calling him out until he learns how to type

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>> No.67867482

In theory topre doesn't have that problem, but some boards have a low scan rate which makes you press the switch down longer than needed, which leads to you bottoming out anyway, albeit not as hard as a membrane.

>> No.67867506

let me lick it anon

>> No.67867553

you can soak the entire thing minus the tiny pcb controller, just use filtered water so it wont get sticky later on from all the minerals

>> No.67867568

>no numpad
>"b-b-but we're not accountants!"

fuck you I want a numpad.

>> No.67867584

>numpad on the right
unless you use the mouse with your left had, you're a pleb

>> No.67867615

of course I eat over them. the keycaps protect the switches from any debris so all I would need to to is clean the keycaps occasionally.

Fuckin reddit fags think their precious gmk plastic is going to be ruined from crumbs.

>> No.67867671

Oh shit I am buying one, It looks just like my beloved Dell OEM keyboard that came with my 755 that I still use.

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Why, are numbers above the keys that hard to use? Numpad is just a waste of space. Same with the arrow keys and those other useless keys above them.
60% is the perfect keeb

>> No.67867943

let's be real anyone with voice activation mic is not worth playing with

>> No.67867975

>all I would need to to is clean the keycaps occasionally
how about never at all. just eat in the dining room like a normal person

>> No.67867981

dumbass question but i'm looking to get a new mechanical keyboard and the media keys (volume up, down, mute) are different from the one I have now. It's F10, F11, F12 and the keyboard I'm looking at is F5, F6, F7 so I'm guessing those keys will control the volume and not cause some kind of problem? thank you anons

>> No.67868073

Looking to get something for work, how's the leopold FC980M? Looks old and beige so nobody will try and steal it and silent reds not to bother my coworkers.

>> No.67868107

they're solid 9/10 keyboards

>> No.67868142

>garbage people who don't give a fuck about you once you've bought their janky shit.
Not true. When I ordered mine, one of the less important keys were a little janky (don't remember exactly which one, might have been like keypad-slash or something like that), but not even to an unusable level. I wrote to them and asked if there was anything I could do about it on my side, and they just sent me a whole new keyboard, no questions asked. So now I basically have two perfectly usable Unicomps.

>> No.67868143

Any 60% recommendations? ANSI or ISO doesn't matter. Preferably with silent switches. Max 180 bucks and EU available.

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>> No.67869295

It won't matter, it's the keyboard sends the signal, the computer interprets it regardless of what key it's sent from.
Even if that were to matter, when you plug your new board in windows will install new drivers for it regardless.
That is impressive, maybe it's just the normal thing where people don't usually talk about their good experiences, just their bad ones. Their QC does seem pretty poor regardless though.

>> No.67869328

GMMK with box royals

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fc980c coming in the mail, selling my 87u back to amazon

>> No.67870345

Typing out data sheets in Excel using number row sucks ass.

>> No.67870358

Any reason you chose the topre board instead of MX?

>> No.67870395

I have used a RF 87U with Topre, and I have tried many boards with cherry mx inclduing a leopold fc660m as well. I like the smoothness and satisfying bump of Topre. It's also quieter than mx switches which I really like.

>> No.67870406

Thanks for the info, I want the topre version too but the inability to switch keycaps and the extra hundred bucks are really making me consider. I might just go with the silent reds like I was planning on doing.

>> No.67870673


Some people have them at work. They seem great.

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>> No.67871089

Anyone have experience with the Gateron silent switches? Considering using them for my next keyboard, but honestly can't find much info on them

>> No.67871105

my experience with them is trying to order some off aliexpress and the chink never delivering them and running off with my money

>> No.67871132

That's a shame, kbdfans has them in stock, and they've never fucked me over before, don't want to spend $35 on switches that are commonly regarded as complete shit though

>> No.67872842

What an absolute unit!

>> No.67873058

meme don't buy

>> No.67874315

You're a meme

>> No.67875032

Thanks anyways

>> No.67875390

Hey the keyboard just arrived to Europe. And everything else is out of stock

>> No.67876497
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Ded thread
Ded memes

>> No.67876858

I like my clicky keys but I at least have the decency to not game on them in a call

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even better is to kill the number row or replace it with f keys and use a split spacebar with the numbers closer to home row.

>> No.67877008

I know you use fn with the numbers for like F1 etc, but how do you get by without arrow keys.
is it the same way?

>> No.67877185

>but how do you get by without arrow keys.
i think they just don't use it

>> No.67877271

why are full size keeb owners such brainlets? map a key (let's say M) to be a layer when held down and a letter when tapped. now you just hold M and use ijkl or hjkl for arrow keys. yuio for home pg up dn end insert del etc

>> No.67877325

You don't have to be rude about it.
Some of use have never used anything besides default keyboards. Thanks for the clarification I guess.

>> No.67877347

we;re gonna need a new thread pretty soon

>> No.67877537

>You don't have to be rude about it.
literally fucking die, reddit nigger

>> No.67877573

>in 3 seconds
good day

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>cherry mx browns


Fucking hell, trying to find the perfect keyboard is turning into a nightmare, I can see how you autists end up with 10+ keyboards, I'm already on my 3rd one

>> No.67878416

diy keyboard with hotites so you can swap switches until you find the right one

>> No.67878520

give me the most robust keyboard there is under 75$, mechanical or not

>> No.67878586

at my desk setup, I like to have a board big enough for dedicated arrows, but while I'm typing and on my smaller boards, I like to have arrows under esdf on another layer.

>> No.67878742

Topres :^)

>> No.67878759

Go to an old recycle center and pick out an IBM beamspring for free. Then spend the $75 restoring and converting it to work with a modern computer

>> No.67878795

still no new thread?
someone other then me has to make one

>> No.67878949

you can do it senpai believe in yourself and believe in the heart of the cards

>> No.67878970

u sure. I've never made a good thread before

>> No.67878980

is there an easy way to test an ergodox pcb before I solder anything?
other boards, I could just plug it in and short the contacts but the diodes and controller need to be soldered on

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>u sure.

>> No.67879082

Well I tried
New thread

>> No.67880070

>What are Mod-M switches?

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