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This is the LITERAL fucking END. Last nail. Done. No more. It's over. Game Over.

>> No.67273179

This is what you get for trusting your rights to free market capitalism.

>> No.67273186

Stupid commie get out

>> No.67273197

AMD is free market, though. The very epitome of FREEDOM.

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What on EARTH are you talking about? Intel published performance numbers on their on website on what happens when you disable HyperThreading to prevent ForeShadow Attack

>> No.67273207

>implying that a "news" post will kill a giant company.

Please leave this earth and die you fucking waste of space.

>> No.67273213

illegal in EU. get fucked burgers.

>> No.67273214

Those benchmarks are with, like you said, hyperthreading disabled.

Intel is talking about BIOS updates.... Imagine how much performance decrease there is with the BIOS update if Intel is okay with posting that fucking landslide of performance degradation

>> No.67273215

It's hilarious how AMD shills keep forcing all of Intel's security woes and claiming that it will be the """end""" of Intel.

AMD shills getting annihilated by Nvidia shills so they shill against Intel again.

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>just trust us go... guy! no need for independent research, we wouldnt lie to you!

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*pays a 1 billion dollar fine to European Union even though we profited hundreds of billions of dollar on our bribes*

nothing personell kid

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Give me ONE good all rounder alternative to intel.
Oh wait you cant.

>> No.67273235

As if the monopolistic CIA nigger infested tech corporate structures has anything to do with "free market." The only difference if we'd gone the gommie route would be that there'd be one botnet processor instead of two.

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After OS, microcode, and motherboard BIOS updates, Xeon loses up to -57% performance in enterprise workloads, especially MySQL. This was confirmed and proven several months ago. Literally every 1-and-a-half medium and large sized serious business which has at least some brains and dignity is trashing Xeons garbage away right now while buying EPYC in tons, while small businesses (such as home servers and media studios) are buying THREADRIPPER.
And then there's also this:

>> No.67273243

>t. awesome inbred retard

>> No.67273250

>Relative performance

you do realize the baseline is already heavily performance degraded already? There's a reason why they didn't show benchmarks for unpatched systems KEK. THEY ARE LITERALLY SHOWING BENCHMARKS FOR PATCHED SYSTEM (but still vulnerable) AND FULLY PATCHED SYSTEM (safe, but shit performance)

>> No.67273259

I wish it were true, but the kikes lie and will hide this shit from normies.

>> No.67273264


>> No.67273266

Poorfag and budget consumer = Zen APU, RyZen.

Average consumer = RyZen/low end THREADRIPPER.

Small business/prosumer/enthusiast = THREADRIPPER.

Medium sized and large business = EPYC.


>> No.67273270

this. both CCP (eve online) and others posted before/after info of their server loads

>> No.67273278

This is literally "you lose with jews"

>> No.67273287

not him, but didn't Epic games also post a ginormous spike in server load on their Intel servers? (Although this was after only the Meltdown patch I think. Imagine the performance deletion if they patch for all the 18 hardware security holes O,o)

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>meanwhile in reality

>> No.67273298 [DELETED] 

>american companies

>> No.67273302
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Alright /g/ you convinced me, I'm getting an AyyMD CPU when my 4770k dies, Hopefully by that time AyyMD will get their shit together and release some high end GPU's to complement my future CPU.

>> No.67273316

Gaymer trash

>> No.67273319

I own a 4770k

I still find Ryzen rubbish even after 2 generations

>> No.67273320

Unfortunately most people are brainlets. Today I legit heard some guy going "Naw dood for gaming you run Intel with overclock, AMD is gua-ran-teed to overheat with any load". Wonder if he's stuck in 2012 or something.

>> No.67273323


It didn't say "go commie", although Americans are probably so brainwashed that they sincerely believe that the only alternative to allowing companies and corporations to do what ever the fuck they want on accord with consumer and citizen rights is full-blown communism.

I actually believe a regulated market, where customers can't simply sign their rights away through retarded disclaimers and EULAs and product agreements is the way to go.

If you can get sued by a company for buying their product and publishing findings for others that the product isn't living up to the advertisement, then the system is obviously broken as fuck and in dire need of some serious revision.

What kind of ultra-kike do you need to be in order to disagree with that?

>> No.67273329

which one is best in your opinion.
Cause I see a lot of normies shitting the thread up and I dont know what to believe

>> No.67273341

If you were building a brand new PC today, Would you seriously go for an intel i5 i7 over Ryzen? Why?

>> No.67273342

I wasn't talking about the competition, I was referring to the fact that Intel is currently gagging customers in order to cover up the fact that their product isn't as good as advertised. See >>67273323

>> No.67273344

>6/10 amd

>> No.67273348

Right now?

I'm not buying an 8th gen Intel and would rather wait for the incoming 9th gen coming soon.

So if I'm buying now I'd pay for a cheap Ryzen because anyone buying Ryzen today will be rendered obsolete in 6 months. If this were 2-3 months ago I would have bought the 2700X.

>> No.67273354

That all sounds fine, but it wouldn't help with our current predicament one bit.

>> No.67273360

The only advantage Ryzen has over my 4770k are cores/threads

Everything else is inferior

>> No.67273366

The ryzen point makes sense, but why 9th gen?
t. brainlet

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>> No.67273369

Just give up. Americans are so radically right-wing that their more-left party kicks out people who even suggest market regulation or public services.

>> No.67273370

>but it wouldn't help with our current predicament one bit.
No, but it will help in the future. Intel has pulled shit like this many times in the past, remember the 10nm scandal? Their chips simply don't work, and when people try to publish information about this they get sued or fired.

>> No.67273372

Even with updated microcode? I seriously doubt so.

>> No.67273377

Yeah, but the situation with Intel has very little to do with free markets or government market regulations. It's more of a CIA nigger related problem, really.

>> No.67273379

Epic was the first. And Meltdown """patch""" is the main culprit at the major part of the performance loss. Spectre """fixes""" gimp performance too, but Meltdown is where the main impact is at. Meltdown alone by itself is, like, single-handedly responsible for at least 80% of those -57% mentioned above. And only Inturd's CPoos are affected by Meltdown due to monolithic bingbus meshed structure, Zen is absolutely protected from this shit, thus Zen wins very big against Intrash now when it comes down to lucrative offering and actual feasibility in enterprise/server/business.

>> No.67273381

AMD has far better upgrade options and cheaper motherboards overall plus more cores/threads for the same price which will last you longer.
oh and with all these intel security holes they're almost on par for single core performance.
And if you buy first gen ryzen you get even more for your money after all these the price cuts they're doing.
plus you can OC all their chips.

>> No.67273382

Because the incoming Intel 9th gen will be faster than any of the current mainstream Ryzen CPUs have. AMD's only real response is their 3rd gen 7nm Ryzen CPUs next year.

For two years Intel has been shat on for having less cores than Ryzen, this incoming 9th generation will tie it.

The only thing AMD will have over Intel are price so if you're on a shoestring budget or poorfag you buy Ryzen.

>> No.67273389

>t. guy that havent checked a single benchmark
amd was only 5% behind intel on IPC and after all the patches they're at least even.
only thing intel has now is clock speed.

>> No.67273394

I'm not a huge fan of public services myself (although they are necessary in some key areas where market economics simply doesn't work because the goal of making profit diverges from the goal of providing an essential service), but it seriously astonishes me how Americans who are extremely preoccupied with their freedoms and rights are so willing to turn a blind eye when it comes to protecting consumers from corporate exploitation. I saw this particularly with the anti-NN shilling early this year (and late last year), and the hatred against the GDPR and right to privacy regulations from the EU, despite the fact that most /g/entoomen have a huge distrust against Google and Facebook normally. It's a massive inconsistency.

>> No.67273395

Intel is a Jewish company.
AMD is run by Chinese, mostly.
Only IBM is fully 'murican right now (though was created by Nazis who escaped divine retribution after WW II).

>> No.67273408

What are you on about?

>> No.67273409


What retards like you don't understand is that the only reason such absurd clauses are enforceable is because of the same government morons like you say is protecting us. In other words, according to leftists, it's a good thing we have government to protect us from government

>> No.67273413

too bad it's a fucking housefire and only high-end boards with good VRM can power it

>> No.67273416

Too bad Intel has no response so Kikeripper

>> No.67273419

>Yeah, but the situation with Intel has very little to do with free markets or government market regulations.
That's demonstratively false. Intel is in an extremely advantageous market position because of lack of regulations allowing them to engage in all sorts of anti-competitive behaviour.

>It's more of a CIA nigger related problem, really.
I seriously hope you're trolling, otherwise I'm starting to think that you're a false flagging astroturf trying to make people sceptic of Intel come off as racist, antisemitic conspiracy theorists.

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>I seriously hope you're trolling
Ah, no, I'm completely serious. And I haven't said anything about race or... semites, so I have no idea where you take that from.

>conspiracy theorists
Are you joking, though? Are there seriously still people out there who goes fedora over "conspiracy theorists?" I thought this shit was pretty common knowledge by now.

I mean, Intel runs a network stack on your ring-3. Come on.

>sceptic of Intel
Not that the CIA niggers over at AMD is any better, though.

>> No.67273470

>which one is best in your opinion.
Currently? If Zen, then - APU 2400G, RyZen 1700/X or 2600X/2700X, THREADRIPPER 1950X (after massive price cut it's MSRP is 650$ now, which is insane considering it was 1000$ roughly half a year ago).

>> No.67273488

2600/X is LITERALLY "two Sandy i7 2600Ks" in ONE CPU by IPC and PPC, you dumb fuck. It's more cores AND twice as higher IPC with PPC. It's OBLITERATES and RUNS CIRCLES around your Haswell TRASH.

>> No.67273492

>What retards like you don't understand is that the only reason such absurd clauses are enforceable is because of the same government morons like you say is protecting us
This is literally a red herring. Such clauses are allowed BECAUSE of corporate lobbyism and of lack of restrictions on companies. The fact is that that according to US law, a citizen can freely waive his rights, something that gets exploited massively through arbitration and settlements.

In a sane legal system, you wouldn't be able to waive your rights so easily, and companies wouldn't be able to exploit this.

>n other words, according to leftists, it's a good thing we have government to protect us from government
The government's sole occupation should be to protect its citizens. If it is protecting corporations over citizens and giving corporations rights (see corporate personhood), then it's obviously not doing its job.

In other places in the world, such as Germany and Norway, such non-publication clauses are actually considered illegal, which is why I can publish my thesis results about their shitty IOMMU implementation freely without fearing to be sued by Intel lawyers.

>> No.67273526

>I haven't said anything about race
What is "nigger" then?

inb4 Terry doesn't mean niggers when he say niggers
He really does.

>I mean, Intel runs a network stack on your ring-3. Come on.
I'm not saying that these things are good, but the fact that they're screwing you over legally if you try to show that they're mining data is far worse.

>> No.67273533

>You will not, and will not allow any third party to [...] publish or provide any Software benchmark or comparison test results.

Oh my God, that shit is actually on the EULA! And they know damn well that they won't be able to enforce it in Europoor but they still put it there anyway to scare Burgers.

Intel is on it's last breath...

>> No.67273550

the background colour you wanted to use is #eef2ff

>> No.67273557

>nigger is trigger
It's a colloquialism, you soi. Don't be so thin-skinned.

>I'm not saying that these things are good, but the fact that they're screwing you over legally if you try to show that they're mining data is far worse.
Nah, you don't get it. In reality the gubermint and the corporate is two hands of the same power structure. Especially in certain industries like energy, tech and pharmaceuticals. The government is never going to regulate against CIA nigger practices because they're CIA niggers. It's not a problem you can solve politically today.

>> No.67273561

>performance numbers

>> No.67273566

>muh deep state
>muh CIA tinfoil
>muh system is broken and only the communist revolution can fix it

>> No.67273568


Boomer meme is real

>> No.67273572

>I love IBM now

>> No.67273574

>muh deep state
>muh CIA tinfoil
Hello CIA.

>> No.67273591

That's like 2100 idiots

>> No.67273607

Not my file.

>> No.67273613

it's pretty good for a general purpose home server

>> No.67273621


The amount of mental gymnastics in your post is absolutely staggering. You simply can't face the fact that the only reason those dreadful clauses are enforceable is because of government. It's impossible for any corporation to force anyone to do anything. The only forcing, and therefore any oppression, in any society is always done by government. Why do you think governments invest so much police force, swat teams, spies, armies, agents...etc?

>> No.67273658


intel masterrace

>> No.67273670

it will drop their stock moran

>> No.67273678

they never did did they

>> No.67273689


>> No.67273752

>foreshadow patch performance drop 15-50%

>> No.67273756

>Everything else is inferior
which is?

>> No.67273778

>get BTFO in the other thread
>make the same post in this one
>get BTFO again
Would you like me to stomp on your cock and spit in your mouth next?

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>amd was only 5% behind intel on IPC
*behind Skylake and all its bastard offspring

Ryzen has 11% better IPC than his Haswell trash.

>> No.67273824

>when my 4770k dies
So... 2040s, possibly? The motherboard is going to shit out way before the CPU will.
I've got a 3770k and a 4790k running, and I'm gonna just wait© to seen what Zen2 brings to the table. Was planning to build in 2017, then this year, but it's just not worth it for me on the cost/perf basis. I don't need more cores yet, and in single core my 4790k with an OC runs just about the same as an overclocked 2700x.

>> No.67273826

Not only companies/businesses, but also hardware reviewing outlets/resources/channels. But it's too late, since such truly professional sites as Phoronix already shown us all the ugly truth a couple months ago, so enforcing a gag RIGHT NOW is simply pointless, utter failure, because everyone already saw what happened. Inturd tries to somehow downplay this now by gagging media due to the fact even more "fixes" and """""patches""""" are coming out soon, IN ADDITION TO WHAT WAS DONE ALREADY, but it's all an absolutely wasted knee jerk since literally each and every business who have at least some brains and dignity/self-respect left, are already trashing away Xeon GARBAGE hard while moving to THREADRIPPER and EPYC in tons. Xeon was ruling before, indeed. So did dinosaurs. It's all over now. The ice age. The name of this ice age is Zen. Xeon is absolutely toxic waste now, to be steered away from.

>> No.67273867

Why do YOU write like a COMIC book artist?!

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>> No.67273924

>wall of text without line breaker and random capitalized words and fucking retarded overuse of everything like a retarded little kid's first comic book


>> No.67273947

I don't upgrade often if at all, only when something dies and I'm forced to upgrade, my 4770k currently is perfect and more than I really need, If my bored dies before my CPU I'll probably just get another bored and call it a day.

>> No.67273956

Not bad for 90 bucks desu

>> No.67273967

That you are, indeed.

>> No.67273971

Good luck finding a decent one. Old higher end mobos are surprisingly difficult to source. Meanwhile you can get a first generation mobile i5 to drop into your laptop on Ali for 20 buckaroos.

>> No.67273974

i7 will be slower than any FX-9XXX soon

>> No.67273988

nice fallacy, kid. now go back to school and learn to write a paragraph

>> No.67273997

Thread theme

>> No.67274005

>You simply can't face the fact that the only reason those dreadful clauses are enforceable is because of government.
Yes, because lobbyism totally doesn't exist, right? I'm not saying that the government didn't allow this to happen, what I'm saying is that you should pass laws to prevent this sort of nonsense instead of allowing corporations to essentially pay off politicians through election funding in exchange for favours.

>It's impossible for any corporation to force anyone to do anything. The only forcing, and therefore any oppression, in any society is always done by government.
You're conflating the legal system with government.

Also, if you're really suggesting that we should just rid ourselves with government and replace them with corporate rule and lex mercatoria, you are a truly brainwashed ancap. Getting rid of government regulations doesn't make corporations less greedy and less exploitative, you stupid shit.

>> No.67274022

It already is, in enterprise.

>> No.67274082

Yeah, the old high end boards usually go extinct quickly but you can still find mid range boards on ebay, I don't OC like a mad man and I don't have a anything PCI-E other than my GPU and I only use 3 sata ports so it should be fine.

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Remember when AMD published their own benchmarks on Ryzen and everyone screamed "Wait for independent benchmarks"?

>> No.67274163

Intel is trusted vendor, AMD is not.

>> No.67274184


30% Performance loss in VMware

>> No.67274189

Go back to /b/, you /int/becile.

>> No.67274199


Who cares, call me when it's 30% lower in Battlefield d

>> No.67274222

Nobody cares about enterpriseshit.

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Nobody cares you retard.

>> No.67274259

AMD is Taiwanese, our last bastion of reasonable yellow people.

>> No.67274280


>called out for writing a wall of text like a retard
>tries to project
>called out again
>WAAAAAAAAAHH go back to [insert]

just a few more holes patched

>> No.67274307

You're trying too hard, Ranjeet.

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>30% off Intel CPU's maximum performance

Jesus Christ. They really are done.

This is as close as it's over, Intel is finished as we have ever come.

If the cloud providers drop them, it really is over for them.

>> No.67274329

*NEW* Enterprise don't matter

>> No.67274337

kek, someone update the list

>> No.67274343

>If the cloud providers drop them
Dropbox is switching to epycs. I bet far from completely switching, but still.

>> No.67274345

>bookmarks with website names

>> No.67274372


Taiwan is China.

>> No.67274386

This is fine.

>> No.67274390

>taiwan is china
t. chink

>> No.67274402

Is it time to add Intel to my portfolio?

>> No.67274404

I'm Russian, you dumb fuck.

>> No.67274408

>AMD users think Intel is over

lmao. AMD gets one good CPU arch done right after nearly a decade and they have the ego of god. Christ

>> No.67274410

Taiwan is china, prc is not china.

>> No.67274415

You forgot the obligatory.

>> No.67274419

I wonder if Intel will go back to their old tricks to stop datacenters switching to Epyc. They don't have the upper hand anymore though.

Oops, pls delet off ur computer sir, GDPR demands it.

>Cloud performance doesn't matter

>> No.67274430

Yes, yes, buy high, sell low


>> No.67274458

>The only advantage Ryzen has over my 4770k are cores/threads
What about it being a lot faster? Having a guaranteed upgrade path? Being much newer ie. supporting nVME and shit like that? Supporting DDR4? Supporting the AMD equivalent of VT-d? Even supporting ECC memory?

t. haswell user too poor to upgrade right now (damn memory prices)

>> No.67274471

Don't forget top tier direct soldering and much better power envelope/temps/consumption.

>> No.67274477

AMD shills overshilling because the 9900k is near and they're about to be annihilated

Nvidia just kicked their ass and they can't do anything against them

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If I publish a benchmark will you die?

>> No.67274498

What does God need with a Starship?

>> No.67274500

I hope this piece of shit company goes under really soon

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dont forget your cooler, goy

>> No.67274504

It would be extremely painful

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For Jew

>> No.67274528


NaVi or something even better, I guess.

>> No.67274529 [DELETED] 

oy vey

>> No.67274540

well played

>> No.67274588

>Intel is in an extremely advantageous market position because of lack of regulations allowing them to engage in all sorts of anti-competitive behaviour.
The current situation with Intel has to do with their products being buggy as fuck. Their market position is an issue, but that's not what's killing them.

>trying to make people sceptic of Intel come off as racist, antisemitic conspiracy theorists.
Given the shit we've seen with US 3 letter agencies, it's doubtful that they didn't know about at least some of the exploits we're hearing about now. It's literally their job after all.

>> No.67274608

t. chink vessel

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>> No.67274694

They probably considered hiring a hitman to take care of those pesky security researchers.

>> No.67274695

nice spacing

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>> No.67274812

one spooky boi

>> No.67275049

Found the ruski pig

>> No.67275086

Meltdown had much bigger impact.

>> No.67275095

On I/O, this directly affects compute.

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It just werks lol

>> No.67275179

Not him but you're really seething my dude, why so triggered by that word?

>> No.67275211

Ruski pig

>> No.67275237

lol seething

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>You will not, and will not allow any third party to [...] (iii) use or make the Software available for the use or benefit of third parties
So, what? Noone is allowed to use the microcode updates at all?

>> No.67275246

Did you broke?

>> No.67275267

yeah if you run apt-get update you just get arrested now

>> No.67275272

>If you can get sued by a company for buying their product and publishing findings for others that the product isn't living up to the advertisement
Meanwhile, in the article:
>is gag is both unethical, and probably even illegal.

>> No.67275327

>And only Inturd's CPoos are affected by Meltdown due to monolithic bingbus meshed structure
I know you're meming, but I sure hope you aren't basing it on something you hold as true.

>> No.67275386

low quality bait

>> No.67275389

What, you don't trust jews? What did jews do to you, go- I mean boy?

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>> No.67275403

>9th gen
Why on Earth would you buy Intel while they still haven't fixed their security bugs?

>> No.67275404

it means you're not allowed to use the microcode updates on behalf of a third party, and you're also not allowed to make the microcode updates available for use to a third party, then the same two clauses again but for benifit instead of use

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>i7-8086K (((Limited Edition))) Processor
>best seller

>> No.67275445

If you already have an AM3+ board it might be the best upgrade path short of replacing the mobo and memory.

>> No.67275451

What does PowerPC have with the to do?

>> No.67275559

>you will not [...] use the software

>> No.67275560

oyy veeeeeyyyyy

>> No.67275699

It's LITERALLY how it is.
Meltdown became a thing JUST because of Intel's monolithic bingbus meshing structure they've been heavily abusing since the fucking Core 2 days. Meltdown is a vulnerability on a HARDWARE level, in METAL, which CANNOT be fully protected from by mere "software patches/updates", it's a HARDWARE HOLE, a HARDWARE FLAW. Zen, however, has MCM/CCX non-monolithic structure and Meltdown can't do jack shit to that, thus Zen is fully protected from the day-fucking-one.

>> No.67275702

Absolutely seething

>> No.67275709

PPC = Performance Per Core. Single core's raw performance.

>> No.67275840

My coworkers kept bitching about AMD performance in vidya and proclaimed intel the best. Frankly, that shit should not even matter at this point since most games rely on GPU performance anyways.

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>> No.67275966

You're a big company

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>> No.67276187

Have your (You)

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>> No.67276377

There is literally nothing wrong with communism and you can't respond to this without memes.

>> No.67276388

Calling for industry regulation and consumer protection is literally not the same thing as communism either.

>> No.67276409

>retailers put overpriced shit that they want to get rid of at eye level

Wow, amazingly astute observation Anon!

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Until I can afford to get an AMD, I'm just avoiding these retarded microcode mitigation updates. I'll just have to settle on the mitigations that Mozilla and chrome have in place in their browsers. I'm not suffering a 50% loss in performance.

It means I'll have to browse the majority of the internet with javascript on a leash, or outright disabled, but it's worth it to avoid winblows updates and incel pajeet code.

>> No.67276437

opposed to what? Communism? That would still be using fucking tube tech today.

>> No.67276450

>hurr durr communism is the only alternative to a rampant free market without regulations
See >>67273323

>> No.67276604

>Until I can afford to get an AMD
It's dirt-cheap, you asshole. Do it NOW, faggot.

>> No.67276629

I'm dirt poor, I couldn't get it even if I wanted. I got bills to pay.

>> No.67276639

>not literally sucking dick in order to finance your rig
What are you, some kind of normie? It's like you're not even passionate about computers at all.

>> No.67276640

Implying you'd have a pc to shitpost with in communism.

>> No.67276664

You try finding a dick in this deserted landscape. I'm not driving 10 miles to the nearest city just to get my good boy points for an AMD card.

>> No.67276680

The FX has actually got better with age. When it was first released the majority of programs were poorly optimized to make use of more than two cores. As programs have become more optimized for multithreaded CPUs, it's unlocked more of the power that Bulldozer always had.

>> No.67276683

How can a company the size of intel who made shit like nehalem which anihilated the bulldozer back then fuck up so badly at such a consistent manner in the past few years?

>> No.67276706

See >>67276450

>> No.67276710

And zen2 will be 12-16 cores, early 2019, which is not that far away, if you think about it.
Leaving intel with the inferior core count yet again.
Having to print server CPUs that can 5Ghz on 14nm++++++, only to sell them for 450$ must be hurting their wallets quite hard.

>> No.67276721

You can always camwhore or advertise online, so people come to you instead.

>> No.67276743

anyone comparing what we have to capitalism and communism isnt seeing the bigger picture
capitalism isnt what we have (although we use a lot of elements from it)
and communism is some brainlets idea of a utopia that is inheritly shite
business' do require some regulation but less is better and the free market does a pretty damn good job of solving issues
if you think intel is finished, tell people and if the public loses trust in intel (which people shouldnt really have in the first place.) then the market will decide intels fate, so long as 'they' dont influence too much (gov and or jews/rich people)
Ayymd will naturally start doing better than intel if they can keep the momentum they have gained with ryzen (everyone i know who uses intel has said they'd by amd if the situation is the same when they go to upgrade, not like they could drop in a new cpu anyway)
t. guy who uses intel regretfully, bought a 6600k when it came out pre all this shit

>> No.67276767

>Zen 2
>early 2019
End of THIS year.

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>> No.67276817

>using an intel card

I have my dignity anon.

>> No.67276826

The way I see it, Intel would have self destructed anyways, even without AMD pushing them.
10 nm is broken beyond repairs. If they somehow manage to print a 8core with it by 2020-2021, then it will sell as an i3/i5 whit terrible yields.
Their best bet is staying on 14nm as long as core count is going up, while making another process that has a chance at yielding correctly on monolithic CPUs.

>> No.67276843

You sure about that 67-kun?

>> No.67276847

kek, good comeback

>> No.67276874
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Greetings test subject, Cave Johnson here, CEO of Intel Corporation. Gonna skip the formalities, we got a bit of an issue. Apparently some of those eggheads in engineering found several more vulnerabilities in our products, and to fix them would require a... let's see... 50% performance loss. This could obviously end badly, so I'm taking action. That's right, fired those eggheads on the spot and replaced them with our finest licensed intel(tm) scientists. Of course we also need to deal with the issue of people performing benchmarks and finding out how badly these microcode updates botched our products, so my lawyers advised me to sneak in a little clause about how we can sue them if they post any benchmarks. Dunno if that's even legal, but there's no harm in it. What are those wimps gonna do, sue us? I'd like to see them try!

anyway, Cave Johnson here. We're done.

>> No.67276903

Best timeline
The Chad uncracked chink amd VS the insecure virgin intelaviv

If xeons lost 50% before imagine how bad it's going to get in the future? Loool bye Intel!

>> No.67276908

You fucked up CAveman.
You forgot to add a clause that prevents people using the microcode from reporting that they can't benchmark it.
Prepare for tech youtube videos from all reviewers talking about that.
Then, some nobody will post benchmarks anonymously, and they'll be all over the place.

>> No.67277004




And that's by old schedule. They've exceeded the pace and now first 7nm products are going to be out by winter of 2018.

>> No.67277054

Now I feel dumb updating to 2700X from 1600X.

>> No.67277118

Just return it then.

>> No.67277181

Well, I guess I'll just sell it when Zen2 happens.
I like the higher clock.

>> No.67277308

This isn't a free market though. If you're being sued, then the state is upholding the TOS as a legal document. This can only happen in a regulated market where a user agreement suddenly becomes enforceable in court. The state could simply say they won't enforce that clause, even if their users agree to it.
You can voluntarily sign a ToS saying you'll give your firstborn to Intel, that doesn't mean you'll be forced to do it by a court.

>> No.67277312

This looks like a clause to fuck solely with Phoronix and other specialized/niche ones like ServeTheHome
>having non-free software in your repositories

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Who the fuck even talked about communism?
How hard were americans brainwashed about communism, really?

>> No.67277335

The people you quoted did. Someone brought up capitalism, someone else brought up communism. Funny how only one of these makes you mad.

>> No.67277340

>updating to 2700X from 1600X
Was it dumb to update from 2600K to 2700K. I wonder? What about updating from 2500K to 2550K?

>> No.67277363

Well the 2700X does have 2 moar coars, so there's that.

>> No.67277389

>2 moar
>Sandy VS RyZen

>> No.67277403

Does this mean my 8400 is not effected? Thank god i didnt fall for the hyperthreading meme.

>> No.67277414

>The only advantage Ryzen has over my 4770k are cores/threads
Are you seriously comparing Ryzen with your 4770k? Your CPU was hot stuff back in 2013, Ryzen wipes the floor with it in both single-thread and multi-thread.

You also talk as if cores/threads is just a detail on CPU performance.

>> No.67277429

I meant vs 1600X, as an upgrade.

>> No.67277473

They specifically implied the other guy was suggesting communism as an alternative, which he didn't.

>> No.67277479

Free market capitalism isn’t the only form of capitalism. And the alternative to not letting corporations fuck consumers over isn’t planned economy communism. God damn it Americans are so fucking retarded sometimes.

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here's the answer

>> No.67277513

Throw yourself into the oven, you communist kike.

>> No.67277521

Amd 7nm will btfo novideo

>> No.67277531

Forgot this one https://www.techpowerup.com/247006/amd-7nm-vega-by-december-not-a-die-shrink-of-vega-10

>> No.67277540

Truly underappreciated bait material. But go fuck yourself commie.

>> No.67277556

I probably would build a server with it now if the energy price over here wasn't €0,21. With 8 cores, corebootable mobos, no meltdown and cheap prices it's perfectly fine for a cheap decent home server.

It sure as hell beats second hand Xeons these days.

>> No.67277558

It's gonna be a paper launch.

>> No.67277569

I'm gonna be an AMD boi for life (CPU wise). Intel NEVER again. SELL your intel stock RIGHT NOW if you have any.

>> No.67277573

We need more Spectre vulnerabilities.

Crash the monopoly

>> No.67277574

Thanks, I didn't save it last time.
10nm never.

>> No.67277584

>tube tech today
Audiophile plz go.

>> No.67277644

the first products will be 7nm Vega for ML - I wonder if they can salvage it.

Next should be EPYC since AMD didn't upgrade the processors to the new 12nm node.

>> No.67277661

should have used "12nm" = 14nm+

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Best timeline ever
>Intel vs AMD
>Windos vs Steam
what's next?

>> No.67277812

Well to be fair 99% of people don't know how to run a benchmark correctly anyway, so you're not really going to be losing that much. Think of it from intels perspectivd, would you really want a bunch of untrained gamers going out and saying your chips are the "sux0rz" just because they downloaded some random benchmark program that probably had a virus, and ran it incorrectly while they are also running lots of processes in the background? Of course not

>> No.67277873

>Think of it from intels perspective
Think of it from a customer's perspective. Would you really want to buy hardware from a company that doesn't allow independent benchmarks?

>> No.67277919

>What's next
Logitech's new wireless mouse is actually super-fucking-good.

EBYN 2 is 7nm.

>> No.67277929

A shame it's wireless.

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>> No.67278114

just hide your powerlevel and let them run in the open knife
retards only learn through pain

>> No.67278116

No, that's THE point. It's wireless AND actually GOOD. GOOD WIRELESS.

>> No.67278137

Goddamn I wish I had bought more

>> No.67278150

Meltdown goes back to before Core 2 (to be specific, versions of it affect the Intel 80486 and most variants affect the early Pentiums and Core 1). You're dumb.

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>Because the incoming Intel 9th gen will be faster than any of the current mainstream Ryzen CPUs have
>meanwhile in reality
how on earth could anyone believe this
intels chip design is a dead end and the process mature
they cant just suddenly get moar corz and more niggerherz
they couldnt do that int he last generations without being an embarassment

>> No.67278178

Got a source for the 57%?

>> No.67278228

>Goddamn I wish I had bought more

Rumor has it that they may do a 1:2 split in the near future; basically double the number of stocks anyone originally purchased. So might be good to still drop more money into it right now. Because if they overtake Intel in stock price by end of next year, those individual shares will be worth a fuckton of money.

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IBM? you wouldn't support the holocaust, would you?

>> No.67278264

That's not remotely how stock splits work.

>> No.67278321

that;s what I'm doing, just playing dumb until it seriously hits them.

>> No.67278322


Enlighten me please, since I am ignorant.

>> No.67278380

>Only IBM is fully 'murican right now (though was created by Nazis who escaped divine retribution after WW II).
>fully American
>over 50% of the staff based in India
fucking pajeets

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well yeah sure i guess, being vulnerable to 19 hardware security vulnerabilities is better than being vulnerable to 20

>> No.67278506

Well i bought ir at release and all this shit happened in january so i am trying to cope

>> No.67278516

sure kid


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>> No.67278532

>you will not [...] use the software [...] for the use or benefit of third parties

>> No.67278541

nice digits

>> No.67278555

Apart from stylistic choices, I'd say your little fiction is exactly how it went.

>> No.67278564

>mfw there's probably another vulnerability we don't know of yet
>their patches will get -50% performance
>they are trying to hide all of it

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>> No.67278801

damn, that was some good pasta

>> No.67278851

AMD is American.
The CEO is Taiwanese

>> No.67278864

t. Communist

>> No.67278873

Every public company is owned by a random assortment of international financiers and investors so it's impossible to say which country a company "belongs" to anymore, just which exchange it is listen on and where their headquarters are located in.

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I just got finished setting up my old i5 6500 machine as a home server
at least I have a ryzen main pc now

>> No.67279200

>implying that America has a free market

>> No.67279206

That's Intel.

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>> No.67279565

the old spectre and meltdown patch already degraded the performance by 30% as it was it stated will this patch degrade the preformance even more?
also is it possible to undo the old spectre meltdown patch and get the pc power back?

>> No.67279616

In free market you don't have to buy Intel, you can buy AMD or go with RISCV meme to make your own competition or whatever. In socialism with only one chip maker and competition banned, what do you do then?

>> No.67279796

>you have the freedom not to breathe air, nobody is forcing you to breathe it unlike socialism that forces you to breathe

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>It's a colloquialism, you soi. Don't be so thin-skinned.

oh fuck off. this is basically you

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>> No.67280500

I'm not American.
>Free market capitalism isn’t the only form of capitalism.
Come again? How can you have a free exchange of goods without a free market?

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>something you agree to under free-market capitalism is enforceable in court


>> No.67282598

>How can you have a free exchange of goods without a free market?
Capitalism isn't defined as free trade, you dolt.
Capitalism is an economic system based on private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit. Trade can be heavily regulated and it could still be capitalism. Laissez-faire free market capitalism is a meme.

>> No.67282613

>The state could simply say they won't enforce that clause, even if their users agree to it.
Good. Consumers shouldn't be able to waive their rights and corporations shouldn't be able to force them to waive rights.

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>> No.67283201

What are you using it for?

>> No.67284303

No, this is what happens when a company stagnates with zero competition from dodgy business deals.

Hopefully all this brings about the second semiconductor/chip revolution and we can have a heap of architectures for PC (anybody remember ppc?) Instead of just x86 with AMD and Intlel.

I'd gladly buy and ARM PC CPU.

>> No.67284505

I have 4770k and z87 mobo. When do I get the bios update?

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My mouse's is fucked, I can't select shit and middle click basically opens up 15 tabs of whatever link I happen to be hovering over at the time or just blank tabs; otherwise I'd use a picture.

AMD stock is 22.29 right now and is projected to open at 22.69 tomorrow morning at 8. The rate of increase implies that by end of Friday, we'll be pushing $24 territory. With all the mainstream review youtubers and reporting on twitter of Intel trying to make benchmarks illegal and the fact that such an action itself is illegal under US and EU law, is going to blow the FUCK UP on the internet over the next few days.

The secondary implications of that with chip IPC performance of what a fully mitigated + microcode updated chip means is going make matters for Intel even worse--cause if Intel tries to throw its weight around over benchmarks, someone will have the money to say to Intel "I'll see you in court over this." Which is EVEN WORSE PR.

This move is putting them onto a path of PR freefall that won't be containable.



Shit guys, we might end up seeing AMD get to within 88-90% of Intel's stock price by Christmas. Which is exactly where Zen was in IPC performance when it first launched. Its literally a prophecy.

Zen2, with Zen2 Threadripper & Zen2 Eypc will push AMD past Intel. They'll have the process, node, uArch advantage, IPC, AND CORE COUNT with superior SMT perf ADVANTAGE.

Next year AMD will overtake Intel on every single front imaginable. This in turn will drive stock price into mid 40s, easily into the 50s within 6 months of Zen2 uArch launching.

Just think about it, 64c/128t single socket chips with Kabylake perf with 3-3.3GHz stock clocks.

>> No.67284633

muh fucking dick

>> No.67284666

>AMD makes better CPUs than Intel
>Intel enters the GPU market in 2020, probably average at best
>AMD and Intel are swapping each other’s place in the CPU/GPU market unless AMD pulls a threadripper stunt against Nvidia, which would make AMD the king
What’s happening?

>> No.67284688

kek, that was a good laugh
I'm shorting AMD tomorrow at the opening bell. I'll make thousands by this January, when the failures of AMD's GPU department will catch up with their revenue drop. $20 is not sustainable for AMD

>> No.67284696

Intel's GPU won't be any better than what AMD has

They're more likely to destroy Ryzen and Threadripper than putting out a better GPU than Pooga and Poovi

They only jumped into the discrete GPU business because of mining

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What does that mean to the average consumer with an i7 haswell that is playing games on daily basis?
Sorry I am retarded

>> No.67287053

An exploit that basically affects 99% of cpus. Patching it brings your (Intel) processor’s speed down by 15-30%. If you don’t patch it, your PC will be fucked by attacker. Not that there’s currently any known malware using it right now but still

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Europeans are so radically left-wing that their more-right parties are just national socialists instead of regular socialists.

>> No.67287108

It's affected by being worse than the 2600.

Sameish. My 2500k was supposed to be a NAS and home server. It runs even more shitty now. Going to sell it to some retard on craigslist with a 1070 in it as a gaymer PC and get a 3400G NAS instead when that launches.
Only thing I don't like is that Ryzen CPUs are insanely low power that it makes the chipset look ridiculously power hungry. Can't wait for fully SoC.

Either you're insecure or your performance is shit.
>Patching it brings your (Intel) processor’s speed down by 15-30%
It's worse than that because Anon would have to disable HT. Only reason the 4770k and 4790k were hanging on now days was hyperthreading. 4690k has been obsolete as it's unable to hold a stable 60fps minimum in loads of gaymes.

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>You will not, and will not allow any third party to (i) use, copy, distribute, sell or offer to sell the Software or associated documentation;... or (v) publish or provide any Software benchmark or comparison test results.

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Intel is literally fucking seething what a time to be alive.

>> No.67287799

>The only forcing, and therefore any oppression, in any society is always done by government.
this is some "only white can be racist" tier retardation

>> No.67288629

>Multi-core doesn't matter!
>Productivity doesn't matter!
>Price/performance doesn't matter!
>Performance per watt doesn't matter!
>Power usage doesn't matter!
>Temperatures don't matter!
>Soldered dies don't matter!
>Stutters don't matter!
>Streaming doesn't matter!
>Data centers don't matter!
>Locked CPUs don't matter!
>OEMs don't matter!
>Hyperscalers don't matter!
>Upgradeability doesn't matter!
>Anti-competitive business practices don't matter!
>Locked platform features don't matter!
>Synthetic loads don't matter!
>PCI-e lanes don't matter!
>Burnt pins don't matter!
>Heat doesn't matter!
>Server space doesn't matter!
>ECC support doesn't matter!
>*NEW* Sales don't matter!
>*NEW* 7nm doesn't matter!
>*NEW* HEDT doesn't matter!
>*NEW* StoreMI doesn't matter!
>*NEW* Security doesn't matter!
>*NEW* VMware doesn't matter!
>*NEW* Enterprise doesn't matter!
>*NEW* Stock coolers don't matter!
>*NEW* Games don't always matter!
>*NEW* Hyperthreading doesn't matter!

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Do not post these antisemitic benchmarks goyim or I will sue you!

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get fucked intel

>> No.67289082

No, this is what you get for not murdering the kikes at Intel that gave the company an unfair advantage with their shady business practices

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the list keeps getting longer and longer

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Sixteen gorillions faggots

>> No.67291672

>intel's market cap 10x bigger than AyyMD
I-it's over guys XD haha fuck intel !!1

>> No.67292091

Stock price measures market cap and stock splits don't change market cap. It'll go up by the same amount no matter what.

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>he actually tries to talk sense into nigger gene mutt boomers who drink up boomer propaganda CNN fox news CIA sperm kool aid on a daily basis
mutts are fucking hopeless, my friend. This is what free market breeds in the modern world, zero competition, merchant/corporate cartels and a population of mouthbreathers attached on strings, including the ones who think they "broke free".

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mean while AMD is trending UP

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>> No.67293527

>want strong government
How did america succeed in conflating literally ALL leftist thought with some dumb barely-left-of-center liberal ideology?

>> No.67293758

Twice the same:
>Temperatures don't matter!
>Heat doesn't matter!

>> No.67293873

>No, this is what happens when a company stagnates with zero competition from dodgy business deals.
The "we will sue you to hell and beyond if you say something bad about our product" has nothing to do with Intel's market position and everything to do with shady legal practices and how arbitration and contract law works in the US.

>> No.67294212

you are dumber that the blackest of niggers

>> No.67294428

>and they're about to be annihilated
By what? Ghosts holding twigs?

>> No.67294834

You forgot
>IPC doesn't matter!
>APU's don't matter!
>Console market doesn't matter!

Thanks for adding enterprise and security though.

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>> No.67295225

Niggers are smarter than spics.

>> No.67296328

>Stupid commie get out
>go fuck yourself commie.

>> No.67296418

Its literally less than 200$ to switch if you already have ddr4

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