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>> No.65603674 [DELETED] 

AMD fanboys are fucking cancer

>> No.65603779 [DELETED] 
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>> No.65603794

I guess it's finally time to upgrade from my Phenom II X4

>> No.65603811 [DELETED] 

You just proved his point though?

>> No.65603815

irrelevant old shit

>> No.65603829 [DELETED] 

Iggy azalea?

>> No.65603917
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how about this

>> No.65603945
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Also for the tripfag that should be coming anytime soon:
See pic related.

>> No.65603970

>1500x always ignored


>> No.65604059

cuz it sucks

>> No.65604064

jesus christ. The 2600 looks tight tho.

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>> No.65604082

no u

>> No.65604083

Simply impressive
Intel has been absolutely mogged and btfo by AMD

>> No.65604180

Who the hell even games at 1080p. This bench is completelly meaningless hack job

>> No.65604198

What low res doesnt matter anymore intelfag?

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>> No.65604213

>Who the hell even games at 1080p.
literally most people out there.

>last year
>7th gen intel cores look better when benchmarked at 480p

although to be honest I don't expect you to know what was going on here last year, you being an underage newfag and all.

>> No.65604218

AMD Master Race

>> No.65604255 [DELETED] 

Nice try kiddo

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>> No.65604708

>jewtel getting btfod

What a time to be alive

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Hi Ian cucktress I see you are doing a nice work.
Don't forget to pass on amd to get your exclusive prize

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>> No.65604929

Isn't coffee lake a 2017 chip?

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Oh wow a tech journalist talks to industry insiders, big shock

>> No.65604961

It's the latest Intel desktop chip and from their roadmap it seems they won't be releasing a successor this year.

>> No.65604966

paper lanuched in 2017 yes

>> No.65604989

I see, thanks. Maybe this will push them again if it turns out good.

>> No.65605046

The only thing intel had going for it against the first ryzen chips was the gaming performance and now that's completely gone so I guess there's no reason to buy intel anymore.

>> No.65605055
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Why is the frame rate so low? I play at 1440p with a 7700k and a 1080ti and get more than that. I'm positive I got more when I had a 1080 as well.

>> No.65605060

/pcbg/ is going to be a shitstorm when the op gets changed today

>> No.65605072

because anand fucked up and are getting roasted

>> No.65605092
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Those are Spectre patches you mong

>> No.65605112

gaymen isn't affected much, mutt

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>> No.65605213 [DELETED] 

lol enjoy your housefire. Nobody needs more than 60 fps

>> No.65605491

What is the point of posting BS like this? I just checked a bunch of different sites and the 2700x is slower than the 8700k in every game they tested. Good effort, I guess.

>> No.65605929

Id still go with Intel because, luk at those power ratings, Ryzen uses more and over times it ads up, so it actually end up costing you more. Also not to mention the RAM incompatibylity issues Ryzen is having, and lets not even get starded on overheating issues. Also the human iyes cant possibly tell the difference at those high frame rates.

>> No.65605972
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Bait or maybe (since this is /g/) an actual idiot.

>> No.65606052

I'm super pissed off that CPU X has outperformed CPU Y. I will not rest until every proponent of the wrong CPU has been put to the ground.

>> No.65606159

Neat. It finally makes sense to switch back to AMD. What the fuck took them so long to straighten their shit out?

>> No.65606168

They're benchmarks, benchmarking CPUs. If you want to benchmark CPUs with video games then you want to benchmark at 1080p because if you go any higher, GPU becomes a bottleneck much sooner.

>Who the hell even games at 1080p. This bench is completelly meaningless hack job

Something like 70% of people play at 1080p. That's who.

>> No.65606176

desu I'll wait for Zen2, they will absolutely btfo Intel in every aspect

>> No.65606180

>yfw 2800X comes out in 3 months on the 7nm node to bite back at intel's 8 core coffee lake

>> No.65606217


i mean its ok that amd is going oke-ish, competition is always great but I rather have it just werk. amd is like linux of CPUs, sure its cheaper and "just as good" on paper but its riddled with bugs and minor annoyanced. but im glad amd is having it well, at least intel is going to lower its prices. we all win here, both intel and amd people. no need to argue.

>> No.65606219

You do know how paid tests work right?
They only show the cpu but not the rest of the hardware, so they pair the processors they want to shill with a better gpu/deditated wam/etc

>> No.65606230

>at least intel is going to lower its prices
Imagine being this deluded.

>> No.65606233

yes, but so are amd and nvidia or any other fanboy.

>> No.65606238

it's literally saying there that they tested it with the gtx 1080

>> No.65606252

Because those benches are using a GTX 1080, and looking at every other reviewer, including gamers nexus, the results are an extreme outlier.
If the only thing demanding you do is game then the 8700k is the best chip for you.

>> No.65606263

ahaha i remember this

>> No.65606269
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>at least intel is going to lower its prices

>> No.65606270

that inbred tripfag got me banned for saying that hitler and the jews cooperated and they had a 3rd reich coin made ecpecially for that with a swastika and the star of david.
This fucking board is full of intelavivs.

>> No.65606320

>It's only OK when Intel does it
>and when Intel does it, it's true

>> No.65606339

>riddled with bugs and minor annoyanced
it's been 2 days without a new intel security flaw and shills have gone crazy.

>> No.65606375

Are you implying I'm rooting for intel?
Because I have an amd processor
((They)) can say anything, doesn't mean it's true

>> No.65606390
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spreading disinformation without double checking, this is why nobody likes you redditors

>> No.65606513

This desu everyone I know including myself game at exclusively 240p on a 1000Hz display

>> No.65606516
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>mfw got a 6700k for $200 during the 5820k fiasco.
Call me in another 5 generations hahahaha

>> No.65606560

Let the retarded drones take the bait.

>> No.65606568

>not accounting for Meltdown/Spectre
You're the liar, doofus

>> No.65606590

>199 bucks chip beats a 359 Shintel garbage



>> No.65606630

You’ve already been beaten
Sorry kid

>> No.65606632

>ipc comparision
>video game benchmark

>> No.65606643

Oh yeah Est channel

>> No.65606662

Funny how my 8400 is still shitty on 300 dollars cpus from amd in games. Gonna keep this baby until 7nm

>> No.65606677


>> No.65606679

Nigga get on my level, x58 xeon here that still kicks ass considering it's a literal grandpa.

>> No.65606704

>people are actually buying the 8400

>> No.65606706

I laughed when I read that
I can't imagine him being serious really.

>> No.65606710 [DELETED] 

That dude is just making fun of the other dude. There's no indication of either of them being fanboys. However, the initial post >>65603674
is probably more retarded since all that was posted was a graph of performance results. I fail to see how that makes anyone a fanboy.

>> No.65606725

he says that while intel fanboys shit every single thread in which I was trying to have a civil discussion regarding AMD new technologies with other AMD fanboys on the day AMD some launched new stuff.
kys retard.
I had it with ypu morons.
Not only you're the most insufferable scourge of the earth you still point fingers at AMD fanboys which end up getting the flak from everyone else because of your numbers; yes, if the majority agreed AMD fanboys, then sure they are scum.

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>> No.65606735
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That looks great. Intel needs to get their shit together or Zen2 will absolutely BTFO everything.
8700k still looks like the gaymen king, but the 2700x looks amazing.

>> No.65606745

Then whays that say for ryzen given thr 8400 is the superior gaming cpu? I get ryzen is a beast in heavily threaded tasks but its like an i3 in games, its pathetic

>> No.65606764

>every intel ahill has that fucking game plotted, framed and hanged right in front of their screens.
Just die scum.

>> No.65606789

>amdtards getting this emotional

>> No.65606810

go cry over the unfairness of enabling spectre/meltdown patches you moron. Yeah, using security updates is bad for you okay. You don't need no security on your intel cpu goys.

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>5820k fiasco.
Can somebody give me quick rundown? I thought it was a great CPU at the time.
>4 cores
>5 generations
You niggers are deluded. 8700k/2700x or get the fuck out.

>> No.65606830

Amd hasnt even patched spector btw lol.

>> No.65606855

I'm exclusively shitposting now.
Don't care about anything else anymore.
I've been trying to discuss the intrincasies of something that caught my attention, only to get interrupted by absolute morons bringing nothing but pajeets, pooo, and such, unrelated outdated benches which were completely irrelevant to the topic while still being called an insufferable AMD shill myself.
Indeed, ree'ing like I haven't in a long time.

>> No.65606881

and intel halted any further action regarding those vulnerabilities. lol. they aren't even acknowledging its existence anymore. lol. only amd fanboys shitposting that intel is trying to literally shut it down, like the schlomos they are, are bringing some level of awareness to this sad state of affairs. lol.

>> No.65606882

Welcome to /g/ summerfag

>> No.65606886

No reason to patch invulnerable CPUs.

>> No.65606898

Why does this have to be about fanboys tho. We the consumers are the ones that win the most from active competition.

>> No.65606906

>ryzen doesnt use speculative execute and branch prediction
>ryzen isnt vulerable to spector

>> No.65606913

well hello there r/amd
>I've been trying to discuss the intrincasies of something that caught my attention
the intel wojaks amdtards constantly spam ?

>> No.65606915

Yes goy Meltdown isn't real

It's spelled SPECTRE you dumb beaner

>> No.65606922

also, except you're outright lying. lol.

also, Ryzen 1xxx has already been fully patched. lol.

>> No.65606924

Zen is invulnerable, deal with it monolithic shitter.

>> No.65606934


>> No.65606939

Don't you know? CPU exploits don't matter!

>> No.65606954

>fixed a week ago
>mobo havent rolled out the bios for it yet
So its not fixed. Gotcha

>> No.65606957

>Denying Meltdown/Sprectre
The absolute state of shills

>> No.65606989

He deliberatly misinterpret one piece of information while in the same breath he's trying his absolute best to ignore his own beloved company not even acknowledging the issue.
You got the goy of the week award. Congratulations.

>> No.65606993

Zen is vulnerable to spectre 2 and bios patches still are not out. All you zen shitters havent flashed your bioses with microcode yet and are vulnerable

>> No.65607045

I swear to you guys, I gonna shitpost so hard on intel's next launch I'll end up with an IP range ban for life for everything below the tropic of cancer.

>> No.65607058

No sweaty you're wrong and also a monolithic shitter.

>> No.65607072

Good shill.

>> No.65607079

>no sweaty
do the needful sir

>> No.65607089
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>0.2ghz frequency increase + 3% IPC increase
>results in 3x better fps in games
yeah anandtech TOTALLY didnt fuck up.

>> No.65607117

They didn't retest 1st gen Ryzen, JIDF

>> No.65607124

How is this even possible?
They didnt notice that at all? What explanation did they give?

>> No.65607125

NO you fucking moron.
Unlike Intel, the tiniest portion of that debacle that even affected AMD cpu's have already been adressed, including today's launch with microcode and harware level preemption.
You wouldn't know because you simply ignore good press for AMD, and bad press for intel.
Now, just stop embarassing yourself.

>> No.65607154

Why don't you watch all of those brilliant youtubers, all representative of the best mankind has to offer, who didn't enable spectre/meltdown patches because they'd be unfair towards intel, then. While you play with your blanky.

>> No.65607177

Look. We get it, Intel is expensive. But with Intel you're paying for QUALITY?
AMD cucks are unfamiliar with this word because they gobble up they're shitty budget CPUs. I'll gladly pay $100 more for a quality CPU. I'm proud to be an intel user.

>> No.65607180


It is when some DRM solutions run your game in a make-shift VM, the performance of which these patches have utterly trashed.

>> No.65607201

t. Ian
you'd be looking for a jewtube career path soon enough

>> No.65607202

You mean mitigated, but the mobos havent pushed the patch yet so its not fixed

>> No.65607239

For your oneitis in the form of a processor they weren't tiny at all. You're absolutely correct in that interpretation.
As for AMD cpu's, almost irrelevant and promptly dealt with already. Emphasis on dealt with and not HALTED.

>> No.65607259

But OP is the one cherry picking the only benchmark that shows new ryzen overtaking the fucking 8700K, I'm not interested in your stupid brand wars since both of these companies are the exact same shit, both are putting mayonnaise on the die, and both are rerelasing the same product with a different name. But lying and artistically screeching like you makes the red team look really unappealing

>> No.65607263

like the best theraml interface paste the world has to offer?
So much quality that an entire industry for delidding was birthed simply to MITIGATE intel's superior quality?

>> No.65607285
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and OP is correct. this is shitposting central. Only better and bigegr numbers on any uncontextualized graph matters. AMD fanboys should stop caring about source. Or use case. Just put w/e btfo's intel.

>> No.65607286

You know the 2000 series of Ryzen are thermal paste instead of soldered now also?

>> No.65607287

p. sure that AMD actually switched to something thats slightly better than solder

>> No.65607304
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how about your glorious stock cooler. It OOZES QUALITY.

>> No.65607312

From what I'm seeing so far, any CPU that isn't at least a 8600k and up from intel is now basically irrelevant. 7700k included. I am very impressed. To the point that I don't know what I'm still doing with my FX-8320

Oh right, RAM and GPU prices. Forgot.

>> No.65607315

I don't mind overpaying for a slightly better performance, but i'm boycotting intel simply because they don't respect their customers.
Putting thermal tooth-paste into X-series was the last straw for me.
Like come on, man, i'm paying $1k+ for a processor already, but you still want to save these 2$ and force me to delid to get a decent temp.

>> No.65607317
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keep trying.

>> No.65607339

That's only the APU's, and they did it to reduce prices (I dunno if it's worth it)

>> No.65607341

the APU's are though

>> No.65607350

>average times
Where are the 99% and 99.9% and frametime charts.

>> No.65607351

I wonder who might be trying to spread this unsubstanciated FUD.
AMD took a jab intel in their official press slide.
For them to go back using TIM would be tantamount to selling locked cpu's again. It's a matter of pride now.

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trying this hard.
also check one of your old favs.
or don't. you gonna cry.

>> No.65607370

AMD isn't, see >>65607317
Now fuck off dumb shill

>> No.65607373

Just got 5 dollars AMD stock
How long until rich?

>> No.65607389

even if you got 5 dollars of microsoft stock in the 80's you wouldn't be rich today

>> No.65607393

Yeah, except those aren't the only changes. There are also improvements to memory latency for example, and that was shown to have a drastic positive effect on first-gen Ryzen's performance.

>> No.65607396

If he had 5 dollars of apple stock or facebook stock he would tho.

>> No.65607399

not that retarded anon, 2200g and 2400g are not soldered but those are not the case in this thread.
and gamers nexus confirmed that the paste amd has used for apus are top notched, grizzly quality.

>> No.65607407

The APUs have used paste since Kaveri, I don't remember if Llano or Trinity were soldered, the top SKUs provably were since they could do 100W TDP
It's probably worth it since Raven Ridge seems to overclock almost as much as Summit Ridge

>> No.65607414


Only APU's are you fucking retard

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All my point was about is OP spreading misleading information for either ironic shilling reasons or straight up autistic shitposting.
If their new product is truly this much of an improvement then that's great. But I doubt it can be with the same architecture and small latency improvements.

>> No.65607429

It does the job fine, what are you getting at?

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You're false flagging, right? Seeing how 2000-series Ryzen performs compared to Coffee Lake, how the stock coolers stack up, and the quality of the thermal semen intel uses this has got the be false flagging.

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superpi and Cinebench, otherwise known as intel's betrayer in the guise of a benchmark, became absolutely irrelevant.
it's is known.

>> No.65607443

Poor little ryzen. Cant even do 450 fps in cs go. That unironically is important because input lag

>> No.65607484

>indium alloy solder
Won't that shit just melt or have its structural integrity compromised within time?
Indium is an absolute garbage of a metal with a shit crystal structure and low melting point

>> No.65607498

it needs 200 celsius to melt. it is good.

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trying to sound unbiased level headed anon.
proceeds to post shill graphs.
Not today, today I'm on to you motherfucker.
I don't care about solving 30 captchas for each shitpost anymore. I'll single handedly feed google's skynet so fucking much it'll make me a commander out of gratitude when it becomes our overlord and enslaves you all.

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>> No.65607530

Bruh it doesn't matter if it's an alloy when it's mostly indium

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have some more to wash down swallow intel's cum stuck in your throat.

>> No.65607542

Use the audio captcha

>> No.65607558

Do you have any AVX2 benchmarks? I'm curious how much has that changed, iirc they weren't to destroy Intel on that until Zen2

>> No.65607559

1) the melting point of indium is 150C, far above the operating temperature of silicon
2) it's an alloy
3) it's a layer designed specifically to handle thermal conductivity, not provide any kind of strength to the chip

indium is used because it's the only thing that can solder silicon to copper. Which is to say, when Intel solders their chips, they also use indium

>> No.65607628

I just finished reading anandtech review.
Everybody's saying they're AMDs shills because of their gaming benchmark results. When their every other test (encoding, productivity, misc) showed Ryzen 2 well bellow the realtive perf from most other sites even it came out at the top of a graph in a particular test.
I'm suspecting a pump and matchstick scenario. Anandtech gonna shill even harder for intel, as they have always did, in the revision graphs.

>> No.65607663

techreport has some.
won't post though because I'm sticking with bigger numbers and top of the graph only.

>> No.65607688

have with $200 ram sticks

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also, 16k
is that a thing now?

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rocket league was the most brutal

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nice quads
but ROTR was also nice. And an old intel shilltastic bench to boot.

>> No.65607812 [DELETED] 

Yes we already established you're mentally ill.
Most people don't care about what brand a product is they just buy what works best off them. But for some reason mentally ill r/AMD drones think they are fighting some ebil corporation when choosing a fucking CPU, why they intellectually spread disinfo is beyond me though. Get help

>> No.65607847

>fuck off ayyymD shill
t intel shill.

get more shekels.

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Op is a retard. Anandtech gave the Intel CPUs a large handicap by using lower rated ram on them. You would expect a site to test them all at 3000mhz but no.

These results are baked.

>> No.65607884

kek, last time around it was fine to keep Ryzen at 2400Mhz because that was what AMD would give support and warranty on. But when the tables are turned for Intel which only officially supports 2666Mhz it is unfair.

go fuck yourself

>> No.65607885

2666 is the default ram speed for coffee lake, using anything else is BS.
However I'm not sure why they used such shit ram for ryzen 2. I don't think it's "stock" ram speed is that low, I thought it was 3600 this time around.

>> No.65607898

>juge handi cap
I do agree that everything should be tested at idendical conditions but 250mhz lower ram is barely an handicap for intel. There's something else fishy with their results.

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>> No.65607909

they used the supported ram value in the specs, which is 2933 for zen+ and 2666 for coffee lake

>> No.65607913

>go fuck yourself
you amd fanboys are truly like a cult

>> No.65607949

Real talk though. I wouldn't ever buy any memory sticks rated below 3000mhz.

It's 2018.

>> No.65607950

I have an r5 1400 on an AM4 board
Is it worth to upgrade to say, 2600?

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Oh okay I didn't know it was 2933 for zen+, good on them.
So aside from the ram speed(maybe partially responsible) and the 1080(instead of a 1080ti) what else could be a possible explanation for why their numbers are such an outlier?
Do you (guys) think they applied some spectre patches or something

>> No.65607967

see >>65607855

>> No.65607974

I have no clue. At least anandtech got the proper 190+ single core score in cinebench while techradar's results are very suspect.

>> No.65607976

>So aside from the ram speed(maybe partially responsible)
They're using the ram speed in the CPU's specs
Read before responding you sniveling little faggot

>> No.65607980
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too bad it was more of a showcase for asus windows OC app than a serious attempt. Still, I'm smelling a record breaking and dethroning the 7820x.

>> No.65608000

Nobody has seemed to notice that the results for the 8700k are in line with the results from Launch.

Anandtech has much higher Ryzen 2700x results than other reviewers it seems.

>> No.65608024

GTAV is a very significant result. I'm pleasantly surprised AMD bested Intel in what I thought was a mostly single-thread-limited game.

>> No.65608026

Yes but the motherboards are more than capable of running ramsticks with real world speeds (3000+). If they were going to test with low rate sticks, why not use cheaper motherboards? I thought we wanted to test processor performance, and processor performance alone. Less variables, the better.

>> No.65608027

Kek your CPU is already obsolete

>> No.65608030
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another one of ((theirs))) falls down.
intel is running out of benchmarks.
they gonna have to resort to bringing if_intel_genuine full throttle back.

>> No.65608037

>"Do you (guys) think they applied some spectre patches or something"
>[shows table that answers his question]
>[get retarded replies from people who can't read]

>> No.65608048

important tidbit
>400 to 500mhz lower compared to skylake X

>> No.65608053

what are you talking about? GTA 5 can make use of more cores

>> No.65608054

I game at 1080p and am always looking to get at least 120fps.

>> No.65608071

I am sorry you feel so hurt, perhaps attaching your identity to how CPU producers perform is not a good idea.

>> No.65608076

Sure, but it also has a lot of complexity in levels and in scripting that's difficult to multithread with good efficiency.

>> No.65608077

>K SKU chips without overclocking
>running intel with RAM at 2666 and 2400 while Zen is using best case 2933 memory
>Running Zen on objectively the best Mobo for auto tuning memory timings, Intel on one of the worst

at most there is a 10% difference with Zen in absolute best case scenario. Rocket League benches are about as relevant as CS:GO benchmarks.

Why even BOTHER buying a K SKU if you're not going to overclock, you just waste 50 dollars.

The difference in memory speeds and amounts alone make the testing irrelevant.

AMD shills can't even accept that Zen has a LEGITIMATE lead in heavily multi threaded professional workloads, nope they have to cherry pick and then samefag Wojaks into every thread.

>> No.65608085

wow that means Ryzen has better IPC

>> No.65608101

Yeah but is that responsible for the performance difference?
I doubt everyone else is running on out of date windows.

>> No.65608103
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two records fell.
one came in very close and looks promising.
and it wasn't even a serious OC attempt ahahahaha.
It was an asus infomercial, app showcase.

intel OC shills on suicide watch.
(brought to you by delidman himself)

today was aglorious day

>> No.65608123
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his suicide run

>> No.65608128

how much on cinebench?

>> No.65608140 [DELETED] 

It's time to put the old boy down.

>> No.65608143

They probably don't have non-k chips on hand because why would they? Overclocking is dumb for comparison benchmarks anyway because of the silicon lottery.

>> No.65608154

>>running intel with RAM at 2666 and 2400
Except you know, the part where lower ram speed don't have anywhere near the same impact on intel.

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It's time to put this old boy down.

>> No.65608167

They didn't run any test at that clock.

>> No.65608184

and finished it all off shilling for PGA socket.

>> No.65608203

11 posts above yours.

>> No.65608208

Nah, still good enough for everyday needs.

>> No.65608220

they literally listed the non-k chips on their benchmarks, i7 8700 and i5 8600 are on there. According to Silicon Lottery (company that sells binned intel chips) 99% of 8700k's can hit 4.9 ghz. I am not even talking "golden chip 5.3ghz" just every day OC's like 4.9 or 4.8 at 1.25 volts.

>> No.65608226

17, I meant 17.

>> No.65608256

wait for 7nm stuff

>> No.65608267

probably wsn't even stable

>> No.65608292
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>2933 best case
again, oh boy.
It's unfair when do it to us.
stahp plis.
I can't take it anymore.

CanardPC using an A320 mobo paired with 2133mhz ram and unoptimized bios is the only valid review goys!

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>>K SKU chips without overclocking
You would be surprised at the amount of retards that do this.

>>running intel with RAM at 2666 and 2400 while Zen is using best case 2933 memory
It's only this way because of their default supported stuff.

>>Running Zen on objectively the best Mobo for auto tuning memory timings, Intel on one of the worst
Both Intel mobos are fine.

I'm not going to be delusional and say the 2700x is the best gaymen chip because it's not. AMD is obviously on par with IPC, but the low clocks are still hurting them. The big thing is that they're closing the gap on the only thing Intel exceed in and it's exciting for all of us. Zen2 will guaranteed demolish anything Intel has to offer if the process claims turn out true. They're still not using a great process and managed to squeeze 4.2-4.3GHz, Zen2 will definitely reach 5GHz at this rate. If they add more cores on the CCX then it's all over. Suddenly a 3600 could have 8-10 cores at 5GHz, what will Intel even do at that point when their future 8core mainstream part will clock less than the 8700k and are still on 14nm++++++++++++?

>> No.65608321

I would wait a year for Zen2 desu, but if you really want to upgrade now then either the 2600x or 2700x look incredibly good out of the box.

>> No.65608333

It's still good for 60fps gaming. I'm waiting until atleast zen3. I haven't actually ran into a CPU bottleneck with my i5 2500k ever keeping me from 60fps, always my r9 290 holding me back

>> No.65608334

gets validated score for cinebench.
wasn't stable.

you're embarassing yourself shi, I mean anon.
can't even infer that vcore readout error. Has to be spoonfed, as if receiving another spoonful of Brian Kzranich's delicious cum.

>> No.65608350
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>mfw I can finally let go of my 2500k

>> No.65608354

F noble steed

>> No.65608361

zen3 is just a minor refresh on zen2, don't know if it's worth the extra year

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God I hate this dumbshit.

>> No.65608378

The best part is missing in the screencap.
Why ignore the part where this tard said you don't need thermal paste?

>> No.65608391

>K SKU chips without overclocking
while we're there, why don't you comment on the fairness of TPU posting OC results, especially with power consumption, without a single intel OC processor. aren't you corelets all about delliding and muh 5.3 jigganiggas? Oh, I guess intel new reviewers said something about posting nuclear fires on their products.
Cute how everybody followed suit and didn't even mention it.
i'm telling i'm on to yall motherfucking shills tonight.

>> No.65608404

94 under load huh?
Maybe he lives in the arctic and it's a good space heater

>> No.65608408

revised intel reviewers guideline*

>> No.65608419

I was in that thread, only managed to save this image because I was in the crapper.

>> No.65608427

lol where?
the only cinebench score i see is for 5.6ghz
and even then that doesn't prove it's actually stable, it just proves it was stable enough to run a single test.

regardless i'd love to know the actual voltage they used.
also how the fuck am i a shill for stating the obvious?

>> No.65608446

Did they test the wraith prism on the 2700x? I like the look and I'm wondering if it can replace a nh u14s

>> No.65608450

You can still make a screencap using the archive, post is >>65555090
I'm just too lazy.

>> No.65608453

whyd he underclock the ram?

>> No.65608478

It's a slightly tweaked Wraith Max, which is a slightly tweaked Wraith

>> No.65608487

Do you even own a 8700k? Just built a rig for a friend and it hit 93c in ycruncher at 1.35v 4.8ghz with a cryorig h7 before we terminated the test

>> No.65608500

So its shit? Didnt they improve the contact area or something

>> No.65608504


>> No.65608517

Oy gevalt... Oy vey... It's like the shoah all over again.... Jew soap... Jew soap... Jew soap...

>> No.65608536

it already covered the entire IHS, you can't get better contact area than that

>> No.65608543
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cute how TH had only Ryzen 2 in their OC graphs, and the comparative graph for all cpus were stock only. TPU was a bit more thick skinned and had Ryzen OC power conumption with stock only for all intel.
can you spell new reviewer guidelines?
can you spell DELET, like intel just did?

>> No.65608552

kek, what a fucktard. Will do a screencap later.

>> No.65608556

Watch the video or read more carefully.
Fucking idiot.

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>> No.65608570

True, but IIRC Wraith Prism has direct contact to the heatpipes instead of going through a heatplate like the older stock high end coolers AMD provided. Might provided a few extra C of temp reduction.

>> No.65608591

Because the other sites probably didn't patch for Meltdown and Spectre on the Intel processors, and generally used a flawed methodology.

AMD is now objectively the fastest, and they are actually still cheaper than Intel.

>> No.65608598

>guise, delid and make it go all the way to 5.3ghz. Guaranteed. 100%
>guise, don't bother oc'ing, it's too much of a hassle. You're perfectly fine with stock settings, like on our locked and non hyperthreaded i5 8400

what are you even shilling for anyways? Get on a single script. This confusion is too much to handle.

>> No.65608608

>anandtech hasn't re-tested ryzen 1 since its original launch
lmao those number slook like the factored the time taken for bluescreens and rebooting into the FPS

>> No.65608622

> what else could be a possible explanation for why their numbers are such an outlier?
ASUS board seems to do a little auto-overclocking with its implementation of XFR2, which is similar to "multi-core-enhancement" on Intel boards.
But to be fair, the 2700X was still seeming to draw less power than the 113watt 8700k that was still overclocking itself past TDP spec with mutli-core-enhancement disabled.

I think other reviewers are running faster RAM on Intel, which is overclocked beyond the 2666 they're qualified for, and it looks like some where removing security updates that lower their performance much more than Ryzen's.
Oh, and HEPT disabled for Intel while enabled for AMD could be a big one causing the results for others. Disabling HEPT, while useless for normal use and improves performance to disable it, can cheat benchmarks.

Still... it's weird to see the 2600 ahead of the 8700k consistently. Something seems off.

>> No.65608623

Shut it down

>> No.65608633

aren't these charts software results and not actual wall tested power consumption?
the video states nothing about stability... and specificly said the 6ghz was a suicide run (which means its not meant for stability, it's meant to see how high it could clock and POST)

>> No.65608635

his suicide run

his cinebench score

check out another record break, while you're at it

happy now?

>> No.65608651

No, he didn't say it was a suicide run. he said it was his final attempt without care for stability. I SAID IT WAS HIS SUICIDE RUN BECAUSE IT OBVIOUSLY WAS.

>> No.65608653


>aren't these charts software results and not actual wall tested power consumption?

The ONLY guys you should listen to for power consumption numbers are tomshardware - their german crew specifcially.

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The 2600k should not be able to beat the 8700k in any but the most ludicrously multithreaded situations, even then idk.
Stock RAM, HEPT, and a spectre patch should not in any way produce those results, I have experience benching and working with ryzen and coffee lake and it just seems impossible.
I'm not trying to discredit the 2700x, it is great, especially considering how little power it pulls at 4ghz, but it is not going to beat a 8700k and 1080p gaming.
Maybe a certain company was really downplaying the impact of the patches?

>> No.65608659

lol what

>> No.65608672

Are you fucking retarded? The guy was just asking for a cinebench score of it running on 6ghz. The one posted here is only 5.6ghz

>> No.65608699

Is there any way to port Mac on these

>> No.65608701

Kaveri refresh (aka Godavari) has soldered IHS.

>> No.65608706

not today shill.
XFR2 and Precision boost 2 are nothing like MCE con job. They take into account each user's motherboard capabilities, cooling solutions and the very own chip potential. It's much more fine tuned than that agnostic shit one P state table fits all intel has.

>> No.65608748

the guy was for something which was posted slightly above his own post. And then shittalked some.
Are you retarded?
>>65608128 (you)

nice try

>> No.65608786
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Always bet on Amada.

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>intel bro science


>> No.65608799

The biggest thing is that Anandtech's 8700k results don't look abnormally low with a GTX1080 at 1080p.
>91fps in GTAV with 2666MHz RAM
is very consistent with others results.
Tom's Hardware got
>93FPS with the 8700k in GTAV with 3200MHz RAM and, again, a GTX1080.

It's the Ryzen 2000 results that are simply much higher than what others are getting.
So it seems less to do with Intel CPUs being significantly (if at all) gimped somehow, and more to do with... somehow their Ryzen 2000 performs way, way better than others.

>> No.65608830

maybe they got the market sample instead of the review sample?

>> No.65608869
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Especially because they've always followed every intel guideline with a religious obssession.
Yes, checking their power consumption graphs whith censored OC results. It wasn't bad per se, but it didn't bring simply the most important info for tech enthusiasts.
Nice seeing intel got btfo on this account too, though.

>> No.65608913

Their OC was also way better than say GN, GN could get 4.2 but they got 4.35.
Idk man if those numbers are real I could leave Intel now, I was previously planing to wait until zen 2 because Intel will be unable to compete with that until their get their new arch out the door in 2020.

>> No.65608933

Dunno I really think it has something to with the board and board settings.
Maybe XFR2 isn't working correctly on the others?
Like XFR2 greatly increases power delivery over XFR1 to only 4-8 cores when that's all that's used. Which is how it is for most games.
But even still... it's hard to make sense of the 2600 beating the 8700k.

Yeah I already have a 1600X. But if these numbers are real and I can get them with an affordable board, i'd go ahead and upgrade to a 2700X when I was going to wait for 7nm.

I think either
>Numbers are real. This board works better than they got a good sample.
>Something messed up their framerate recording to record higher than it really is.
Because it certainly doesn't seem that they're artificially lowering the Intel numbers. Those 8700k results are consistent with what everyone else is getting. Their Ryzen 2000 results are just way higher.

>> No.65608943

board works better than most*

>> No.65608955

Yeah, me too. Because it was only 6 months ago

>> No.65608969
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Fuck, that 2600x is too good. I bet I won't be able to sell my 1700 for $200.

>> No.65608985

I wonder how much will IPC and clockspeeds improve on zen2, even if it's just a measly 10% + 25% it's a massive performance uplift

>> No.65608999

I'm waiting until the very last AM4 release so I can get a great deal on a board and buy the fastest CPU available

>> No.65609007
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Mo one got good OC result so far.
The way precision boost works was bringing generally better results under stock settings than with most Ryzen 2700x OC results. The only exception being, above 4.2 stable OC's on heavy MT tasks, such as Cinebench and other renderers. Most other benches, stock was more than marginally better than OC.
gaming bench from TPU just as one random example, representative of this argument.

>> No.65609008
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Zen+ looking amazing for Haswell and below or corelets, but Zen2 when?
They're skipping Threadripper this time around, right?

>> No.65609012

so you're waiting for the 4700X or 4800X?

>> No.65609022
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Just pulled the trigger on a 2500K replacement. Motherboard is the last part arriving on May 9.

Good night sweet pic related.

>> No.65609027

zen2 same time next year
no, they're releasing the full lineup, threadripper in august if i'm not mistaken

>> No.65609038

come on anon, you could've held on for another year and get a massive uplift in performance

>> No.65609040
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About time, did you go for a 2700x? I went to a 1700 from a 3570k and it has been great.

>> No.65609060
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>> No.65609065

2.5x not a big enough performance uplift?

>> No.65609069

and they're hoarding all the best dies for it, seeing that there's no EPYC cpus this time around and no 2800X

>> No.65609077


>> No.65609084

Threadripper refresh was aleady confirmed.
The modularity of Zen makes it effortless, they're all Ryzen 2 cores. The fact TR will come only later is more likely due to excess inventory and maybe some mkt'ing strategy -- to have another big launch somewhat separated just to keep the press talking about AMD--, rather than technical constraints.

>> No.65609088

the single thread uplift is not that great though

>> No.65609097

You should get faster RAM desu.

>> No.65609119

Anandtech benched with this speed.

>> No.65609125


>> No.65609128

so what? it can work just fine with 3600MHz

>> No.65609146
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Amd is totally good.this cuck testifies

>> No.65609157

Ryzen cant even do avx right? Thus why it isnt hot here?

>> No.65609168

Ian cucktress is an amd shill

>> No.65609173
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>mfw after 7 comfy years it's time I let go but a decent DDR4 ram costs at least 3 times what it should
w-well, a 2500K is still a decent CPU

>> No.65609184

are you seriously doubting the legitimacy for a der8eur video, sponsored by Asus, released on Ryzen's launch day?
I mean, really?
Which was linked in this very fucking thread and discussed exaustively already.

>> No.65609189

i'm sticking with my haswell as well until DDR5

>> No.65609191

>Ryzen cant even do avx right?
Take a look at the instruction set >>65609157

>> No.65609194

I have a feeling that Zen2 may be delayed a bit due to the new process.

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>> No.65609221

Yeah but that also says 14nm so i am not inclined to trust it. Also its a dodgy looking photo taken with a phone and ive seen them faked before on this board just like that

>> No.65609222

As I much as I shitted on GloFo before, I don't think it's happening this time around with the other big guys using the same process.

>> No.65609225
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>3000mhz c15

kek retards still don't understand ram is the single most important determinant of ryzen performance

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>> No.65609242

Take a look at >>65607980 then

>> No.65609249

Seems to have worked for benchmark sites.

>> No.65609252

2500k best CPU of the decade, you will be missed.

>> No.65609258

also IBM got in, granted, they just got their weird custom 14nm SOI process, but they'll be pushing for a 7nm HP node too.

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>> No.65609278

the LP stands for leading performance, not low power
and it's literally IBM's node that they gave to Glofo

>> No.65609286


>> No.65609295

No thanks

>> No.65609301

go die.

>> No.65609306

>r-ryzen can't do AVX, that's why it's not getting hot!

>> No.65609316

Can ryzen do avx though?

>> No.65609317

IBM literally gave glofo all their knew about silicon along with their silicon engineers

>> No.65609319

1080p is still high enough to occasionally introduce a gpu bottleneck in the most intense scenes. I would like it if the CPU tested were paired with a Titan V and the game were run at 600p lowest settings. That would give still more useful numbers, which would become relevant once the next gen of GPUs came out. I tend to upgrade my GPU 2 or 3 times on the same CPU.

>> No.65609325


>> No.65609369

IBMs process is 14HP at global foundries, it has absolutely nothing to do with the LP node or do you see ryzen produced with fucking SOI wafers?

>> No.65609381

Not reliable. I thought avx was an intel thing

>> No.65609390

if you can't look at a fucking pic, then why don't go spend some quality 50 hrs reading white papers
There's another source, much more user friendly and readable, but Ill refrain to point you towards there because a pic wasn't enough after all. So have fun with a couple 1000 pages of documentation.

>> No.65609393

Are you actually retarded? >>65607980 clearly says 12nm

>> No.65609399

I'll admit it took me a while.
You got me good.

>> No.65609402

7LP is being developed by both
14LPP was only glofo's
14HP is only IBM's, and not suitable for non POWER housefires

>> No.65609418

so what was your point? IBM is interested in a high performance node, if you call it that or leading performance makes little difference. It's just important that there's another big customer that wants to produce high power high clockrate chips and not smartphone SoCs.

>> No.65609436

there's a samsung in there as well.
I think, don't quote me but there was 4 way joint venture from IBM, Samsung, AMD and Glofo developing this new nodes (all of them below 28nm?)

>> No.65609438

Ian Cutress already doubled down on that, they are using Windows with latest patches (Spectre/Meltdown).

>> No.65609482
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A swing aaaaaaand another miss!

AMD will reach babby lake someday boys!

>> No.65609496

New XFR looks amazing

>> No.65609507
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What about viewer-side benchmarks from the same website, hmmm?

>> No.65609515

>streamer side

>> No.65609548
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How about an AMD "win" instead?
All those THREADRIPPING MEGATASK COARZ are really paying dividends!

>> No.65609562

What? Those are not the viewer side benchmarks.

>> No.65609565

bye, Jews.

>> No.65609566
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He was being a good champ and setting up for AMD counter shilling
>Notice, however, that the 8700K crumbles when pressed with H264 Medium and 12Mbps encoding. We end up at 32.4% of all frames delivered, meaning that the stream drops 70% of frames. We’ll show those videos side-by-side now (see video). We overclocked the 8700K to see if performance could meet the stock 2700X, and found that it still under-delivered at 84.2% of all frames. This disparity is partially a result of the 2 fewer cores, and partially a result of scheduling.

>> No.65609590

All those faggots instead of being happy intel and AMD have some back and forth, are starting fanboy wars, those fags will never learn.

>> No.65609597
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Oh here I found them! Getting a little toasty in here wouldn't you say?

>> No.65609600

I am pressing F anon...there goes a fine CPU...

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>> No.65609696

I'm not really impressed by these benchmarks

I'm praying intel releases something worth buying this year

>> No.65609708

Good goy.

>> No.65609715

Quite a thing to behold. Also note this is at the EPS12V, so it's the CPU alone.

>> No.65609719

either way, GN is still as much of an intel shill as they can possbly can get away with. That super fair game selection, civilization 'turn times', which I wasn't expecting a loss eally. Still very much 101 how to make your statistical analysis not seem biased for IQ<100 readers.

>> No.65609733

Overall keeping up the narrative that the 8700k is still king for gaming.

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Nothing personally kid, enjoy your space heater.

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THAT was your come back?

>> No.65609784

>Gayming on 3 vertical monitors

>> No.65609816

0,71 seconds OC vs OC
0,3 seconds stock vs stock.

>> No.65609822


Only for certain niches (Dwarf Fortress, Grand Strategy games and RTS)

>> No.65609848


Don't expect anything this year. You'll have to wait until Ice Lake.

>> No.65609875

case in point
>We’d recommend the R7 2700 (with an OC) for anyone who needs the CPU to render, but can’t afford HEDT parts.
The fucker missed all of those Threarippers doing Lisa Su's work in his own graphs. You can't shill harder than that.
>Oh, but anon, I'm sure what he meant by HEDT was high end platform including the AMD variant ones!

>> No.65609959

>Turn off HPET
>Turn MCE on @ stock
>Don't install latest Meltdon and Spectre patches
>Delid, paint with liquid metal and OC our golden samples on water

>> No.65609964

When I was a kid, 240p would have been good.

>> No.65610019

I actually play quake 1 at 1000fps on a 240hz crt in 640x480

>> No.65610028

don't get me wrong I'm not an intel fanboy, I was hoping for second gen ryzens to be an upgrade over coffee lake

It's not like they're going to release third gen cpus this year so the ball is in intel's court now

god that sucks because I really want to upgrade to 1440p 144hz and turn my old pc into a streaming pc or network storage

>> No.65610042

>Bruh it doesn't matter if it's an alloy when it's mostly indium
Tell that to Iron with a mere 1% carbon.

>> No.65610064

Hm.. so 93% the performance of a 8700k but it only uses 60-115% as much power, and only more power when it out performs, and you don't need to replace motherboard every year if you want to upgrade?

Only 15% higher power consumption in Cinebench with 33% more cores and a much higher score. Nice.

Also am I missing the 8700k @ 1.4v OC? I can't find it. I see the 2700X and 8600k OCs at 1.4v. That seems like quite an oversight to be missing given the other graphs mainly (rightfully) compare the 2700X to the 8700k.

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Eh it's a fair test case.
As terribly optimized as that game is, especially for AMD, it is the game the kids want to get a PC for streaming hoping they'll be the next Shroud or Dr. Cheater.


>> No.65610135

yes and no. IBM samsung and glofo did RnD together. They are not going to release the same nodes, but they shared the research cost in order to win against intel.

7LP is going to be big. It will incorporate IBMs tech knowledge. Its rated for 5ghz. 14lpp is rated for 3.5 ghz. ryzen 1000 are around 3.6 ghz.
if ryzen 3000 will manage to hit 4.8-5ghz, intel is over.
intel 10nm is a regression performance wise. they will need one or two refinements to reach parity with their 14nm++ node.

>> No.65610158

New intel guidelines for reviewers anon. Don't make any mentions for the 8700k and HEDT OC.

>> No.65610212

He's for sure collecting hard earned shekels from intel >>65609875

These 2 graphs though
imply that he's becoming rebellious. Or maybe, he's getting wary of everyone calling him a shill everyday and had these 2 subconscious freudian slips. He made those himself and he's the editor in chief, controlling what gets published in his own site after all.

>> No.65610317

Da fuck is going on here

>> No.65610396

in case you're actually serious, decades worth of predatory policies by Intel, including paying companies like hp and dell to either not carry the oppositions hardware (ESPECIALLY when it comes to servers/enterprise) or only include it in heavily gimped prebuilts (single channel ram, shit psu, so people have a bad experience and never buy amd again), also paying off bestbuy and the likes to only promote their hardware, etc...


>> No.65610404

and wasting their Opteronbucks on ATI

>> No.65610433

For how far ahead Intel is (~10%) and the price difference between a 8700k and a 2700x, you'd be an absolute fool or rich as fuck to take a 8700k over a 2700x

>> No.65610526

I said exactly what was going on in the text.

>> No.65610548

dont forget that the 2700x comes with a pretty good cooler.

>> No.65610633

Hmm, depends I spose.

I'm going to buy a 2700x tomorrow but I'm using parts from my old build, namely GPU and the AIO cooler I have

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intel ahead
depends on the benchmarks.
this one shows a 332% advantage for the 2700x over the 8700k, with a few exceptions where the 8700k still reigns, like avx and some still ST stuff like the java benches.
In games you can find some results for Ryzen ahead, and some below. Taking the averages, I don't think anyone is debating that mostly productivity and heavy threaded aplications favor Ryzen while gaming generally the 8700k still comes ahead. Although, I'd point out that the wins for productivity are much more pronounced than the losses in gaming.

>> No.65610664

bear this in mind
TPU gaming review relative perf, 2700x -8700k
720p 16%
1080p 7%
1440p 3%
4k 1%

>> No.65610676

>1440p 3%
Sounds good, I run triple 1440p

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>Why are you not testing at 720p? It shows the true performance of Intel.

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BTW they tested at spec for both platforms using the same cooling solution.

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damn, ROTR was unexpectly good case for Ryzen.
TPU's own 720p bench wasn't that good, but the 1080p, quite telling.

>> No.65610748

6.0 MHz = 6,000,000 Hz

Oy vey!

>> No.65610749

After much patching RotTR scales well over threads in DX12.

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>> No.65611063

me too. phenom II x4 955, and just ordered a 2600x. feels good man.
now im waiting for gpu prices to normalize.

>> No.65611239

Ryzen 1400 with its 4 cores that boost at most to 3.45 beating eight 4.2ghz cores. That's not right.

>> No.65611522

i hate that noisy garbage

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