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>Assemble a part list
https://pcpartpicker.com/
>Example gaming builds and _monitor_ suggestions; click on the blue title to see notes
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/
>Learn how to build a PC (You can find a lot more detailed videos on channels like Bitwit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69WFt6_dF8g
>How to install Win7 on Ryzen
https://pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1

If you want help:
>State the budget & CURRENCY for your build
>List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)

CPUs:
>NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE
>NO R3 1200/1300X or R5 1400/1500X. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY THE R3 2200G AND R5 2400G
>G4560 - non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card
>R3 2200G - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM) or for gaming WITHOUT a graphics card
>R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming (especially the i5 8400) or multithreaded use CPUs (especially the R5 1600)
>R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper / i7 - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use

RAM:
>Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal
>Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports

Graphics cards:
>Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon)
1080p
>MSRP of standard 1080p cards: 1050Ti, 140USD; 1060 3GB, $200; 1060 6GB, $230; RX 570 4GB, $170; RX 580 4GB, $200
>GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match
1440p
>GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced
>GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match
2160p (4K)
>GTX 1080Ti

General:
>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
>A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor

Previous: >>65052773

>> No.65063819

What is the next desktop CPUs from intel? Cannonlake or Ice lake? As in what are the next CPUs that will work in a Z370 motherboard? Also what are the next Enthusiast (X Series) CPUs from Intel?

>> No.65063844

>>65063819
Ice Lake, launching early next year. Cannon Lake was supposed to come out this year, but it's now mobile only and already launched.
Coffee Lake was also supposed to launch this year (next month, in fact).

>> No.65063880

>>65063761
Thanks buddy seems Intel is going to keep on jewing. I don't even see an i7 for this Coffee lake-S

>>65063817
Is it known if Ice Lake will work with Z370?
>>65063865
Damn, thanks for the help

>> No.65063934

>>65063880
Ice Lake will work with LGA1151. In fact, LGA1151 support has so far lasted about 4 years going on 5 (Skylake to Ice Lake). The same can't be said for any AMD sockets (not counting AM3+, because the last CPU launched for it was in 2013).

>> No.65063959
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Some anon said he found a 50 inch, 4K, HDR TV with real 120Hz (not the fake kind where the back-light flashes at 120Hz or the screen simulates in-between images) for under 500$ at Costco. Can anybody corroborate this?
I don't see it.

>> No.65064017

>>65063959
Probably one of those TCL TVs, they're legit. I wish they sold outside of burgerland.

>> No.65064040

>>65063959
How's the response time?

>> No.65064076

>>65063934
That's some low quality shilling, Pajeet. It's not even close to three years since the first LGA 1151 boards hit the market (August 2015) and of course Coffee Lake isn't compatible with 100 or 200 series motherboards, making the number of pins the socket has completely irrelevant (and they're not even physically the same in terms of pinout).

>> No.65064109

>>65063934
This better be bait, you fucking retard. LGA1151v1 and v2 may as well be different sockets because Coffee doesn't work on 100 or 200 series chipsets

>> No.65064149

>have to upgrade the cpu

Do I just buy a new computer at this point?

>> No.65064206
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65064206

>AOC Q3279VWF
>32" 1440p
>75hz, MVA, Freesync
>199€ (sale)

I'm tempted to get this one because its so cheap but at the same time I want to be restrictive and save for a super specced out monitor. But I do want to see if 32" monitors are for me and I could just sell it afterwards when I upgrade since its a bad monitor in the long term (panel is underwhelming, no vesa support, not 4K, overall not the greatest monitor for media consumption).

Right now I have a 144hz TN 24" that I plan to keep.

Should I?

>>65063959
They are legit but the cables don't support 4K at 120hz.

You will have to choose between 4K 60hz or 1080p 120hz. Linus did a video of it like last week.

>> No.65064218

>>65063934
Bruh, there's like 3 versions of LGA1151 and v3 only works with v3 mobos

>> No.65064381

>>65064149
Post your speccy

>>65064206
27" is about right for 1440p, but if you live in a populated area and you're planning to resell, why not.

>Linus
Fuck off

>> No.65064444

gtx 1050 for 900p low settings gaymen yay or nay?

>> No.65064547
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>>65064149
If you have a PCIe video card then uou should definitely keep it
PSU and drives can usually be reused
Post speccy and the model number of your PSU

>> No.65064586

>>65064444
Yay, if not a 2200G

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>>65064381
BUY IT.

>> No.65064666

>>65064381
>Hating on BASED Linus
Jealous much?

>> No.65064687

>>65064605
Does it come with onahole attachment?

>> No.65064704

>>65064666
He's probably the most annoying faggot on earth
Besides that his channel content is shit

>> No.65064783

>>65064704
Yup. Jealous. Jealous of his good looks, his money or perhaps how popular he is? Maybe all three?

>> No.65064790
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65064790

I'm still on i5 4670k and gtx660. I wanted to wait until AMD/Intel's 10nm cpus but alas it will be a long time till then. I'd rather wait for a year 2bh. I don't really play many games on PC nowadays. Although, I'd love to play Arma 3 on max and at 60fps+.

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*Repost due to dead last thread

I want to build a FreeNAS server around the Asus PRIME J3355I-C.

So all I need is:
*4GB DDR3 (cheap from auction sites)
*M.2 drive (any will do, right?)
*HDD(s) for the files to be backed up from my desktop
*PicoPSU or regular PSU (which one is best?)

That should work, right senpais?

>> No.65064814

>2 x 250 GB SATA SSD
>1 x 500 GB SATA SSD
>1 x 4 TB HDD
I'm going to be running Windows 7. How should I set everything up? I'll be using this machine mostly for gaming and working with VMware Workstation Pro.

>> No.65064836

>>65064017
TCL uses that in-between frame tech to get "120hz" at a native 60hz IIRC.

>> No.65064850

>>65064783
>t. linus
He's gay with an ugly wife. Hell no I'm not envious

>>65064790
You need a better graphics card more than a better CPU. If you want to play ARMA3 on max you'd probably need a heavy OC on your i5 or maybe even a 4770K with an OC, plus the new graphics card

>> No.65064882

>>65064812
Kohai, don't be retarded.

> M.2 drive (any will do, right?)
If you really want to use M.2 for file server (I don't see a point), then at least buy NVMe instead of SATA. The trick is that both flavours are available as M.2 and clueless retards buy SATA M.2 often. Then, if you really want it to provide any kind of benefit for your NAS, make sure to configure it as cache for your slow HDDs (not sure if that's possible in FreeNAS though, in plain Linux yes).

> PicoPSU
Not for HDDs! Go for regular PSU.

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>>65064882
>If you really want to use M.2 for file server (I don't see a point)
The point is to save space (no need for cables etc.) in a mini-itx case, senpai desu.

>then at least buy NVMe instead of SATA.
I only plan for it to be a NAS drive that is a 'slave' to my desktop PC for regular file backups.

Prices for NVMe M.2s are rather high, senpai, but if you think it will make the difference...

>Not for HDDs! Go for regular PSU.
Hai, i will.

Thanks for the advice senpai.

>> No.65065096

>>65064444
Yes. From what I understand if you're playing below 1080p you're better off with Intel, but >>65064586 is good

>> No.65065104

>>65064961
Or maybe I could just use a USB stick as the boot drive instead desu.

>> No.65065129

>>65065096
I'm only upgrading my gpu, not building a full rig tho

>> No.65065135

>>65065096
>From what I understand if you're playing below 1080p you're better off with Intel
Those benchmarks are just designed to remove the bottleneck from a super high end graphics card as much as possible. They don't apply to that guy who's getting a low end card

>> No.65065136

>>65064836
All of TCL's TVs are native 60Hz panels with optional frame interpolation, which is useless for gay men since it adds tons of input lag. You have to pay significantly more for a TV like the X900E to get a native 120Hz panel (all of which can only do 120Hz at 1080p or below).

>> No.65065148
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>AMD poozen

>> No.65065165

>>65064961
> NVMe vs SATA in a fileserver
Kohai. Your bottleneck will be network bandwidth anyway (single 1GBit interface in that ASUS Prime).

When it comes to accessing block devices, Unix-likes are caching in RAM very aggressively.

So the question is whether you really want to see any improvement by installing SSD. If you want, then go for the best available, since limiting factor will be access time rather than bandwidth (that is limited by the network card anyway).

If you think of buying SSD just to install the OS, don't waste money, you might as well put it on the HDD (FreeNAS supports installation on the same device that is used to store the data, right?).

>> No.65065168

@65065148
>letting AMD live in your head rent free
BASED

>> No.65065182

>>65065168
>@
Got a chuckle out of me, anon. Thanks for that.

>> No.65065189

Why is this general allowed to be made by someone who is so obviously biased in favor of AMD's hardware? I would expect more professionalism from a board so technically inclined as this(allegedly hehe)

>> No.65065236

>>65063959
I'm pretty sure LG is the only company that offers 4k/120Hz TV's so far. HDMI 2.1 isn't out yet though so you can't actually connect anything to it though.

>> No.65065243

>AMD for multitasking
>Intel for gaymen
Fucking stop. The i5 8400 is more than good enough to run a game and do rendering in the background. You are not some project manager running 60 VMs & rendering software.

>> No.65065258
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65065258

This is pretty cool.

>> No.65065267

>>65065129
Then go for it
>>65065135
Good. I'm building with a low end card too

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65065269

>recommending Ryzen over Coffee Lake
>in the year of our savior 2018

>> No.65065281

>>65065243
/thread

>> No.65065295

>>65065243
/thread..

>> No.65065313

>>65065243
Cheap Coffee Lake mobos still aren't out yet. By the time Intel finally launches Coffee Lake "for real" we're going to get a Ryzen refresh with higher clocks, closing the gap for gaming. I don't get why Intel is so fucking retarded.

>> No.65065328

I have a g3258 and a 770. I have some expendable income now and wanted to update my cpu and gpu but gpu prices are so high right now I think Ill stick to my 770. But my cpu is holding me back. Whats a good cpu for my socket. Something not too expensive since I wont be able to oc it.

>> No.65065330

>>65063736
>>65065295
>R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming (especially the i5 8400) or multithreaded use CPUs (especially the R5 1600)
Alright, this shit needs to stop. Most creative or modeling software do not take advantage of more than 6 THREADS (not cores, you fuckwits). That means that your best option for multitasking is any CPU that has 6 threads with the highest IPC and clock speed possible. This means that Ryzen 1600 goes into the fucking garbage while the Core i5-8400 comes out on top of the shit heap.

There is absoluetely ZERO excuse to justify getting a 1600 over an 8400, especially now that the H310 motherboards are about to launch.

>> No.65065333

intel > amd

>> No.65065362

>intel shills doing their thing as usual
Is the pay really that good?

>> No.65065372

>>65065313
>we're going to get a Ryzen refresh with higher clocks, closing the gap for gaming
>gaymen
Even AMD's leaked slides admit that Ryzen+ is going to be ~7% worse than Coffee Lake, so why pay the same money for an objectively worse processor on a gimped socket?

>> No.65065375

>>65065362
they do it for free

>> No.65065381

>>65065330
>H310 motherboards are about to launch
Citation needed. There is not a single confirmed release date from any manufacturer. Speculations keep jumping up a month. It could be fucking May for all we know. And by then Ryzen refresh will have already been out with B350 boards

>> No.65065386

>>65065362
There's more amd shill on /g/ than anything though, so I imagine they must be getting some sweet pensions.

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>>65065165
>(FreeNAS supports installation on the same device that is used to store the data, right?).

This is where I'm a brainlet, senpai. Do Linux-based NAS OSs support that?

>> No.65065395

>>65065372
>coffee lake is only the 8700k

>> No.65065410

>>65063934
I can say with 100% certainty that Ice lake will not be compatible with Z170, Z270 or Z370. Intel always aligns a socket change with a new uarch change, it's been over a decade since the last time you could have two different uarch's on the same board. It would be a monumental act of good will for Intel to make Ice Lake backwards compatible, which is just wishful thinking.

>> No.65065412

>>65064783
>goofy ass lanket
>stereotypical chink for a wife
>Tom's Hardware and Austin Evans are better in every way

>> No.65065413

>>65065189
>Why is this general allowed to be made by someone who is so obviously biased in favor of AMD's hardware?
It's not though. What's biased toward AMD hardware?

>>65065333
>>65065330
>>65065295
>>65065281
>>65065269
>>65065243
>>65065148
>>65065168
>>65065182
>>65065362
Stop with the spam

>>65065328
Haswell i5 like the 4670

>> No.65065415

What fun shit can I do with this motherboard and its many USB ports?

>> No.65065425

>>65065413
>only one (You)
Hello Mr. Shiposter!

>> No.65065442

>>65065413
Thank you for the (You)

>> No.65065458

>>65065413
>an indian hardware enthusiast is unable to comprehend there are numerous people who prefer intel cpus

to what end will this farce continue?

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>>65065413
Excuse me?

>> No.65065475

>>65065413
>What's biased toward AMD hardware?
Recommending any Ryzen CPU when Coffee Lake does everything significantly better in the real world.
Here's you're (You)

>> No.65065496

Have we recieved any news of the clock speed specs for the Ryzen Zen+ processors coming out in april?

>> No.65065505
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Thinking on buying a cheap 120hz monitor with free-sync from a friend to plug it to a 1070GTX, can I just use adaptive sync? how bad it's gonna be?

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>>65065415
whoops

>> No.65065509

>>65065413
>/g/ ever liking poozen
Hello Mr. AMD Shillmaster Shekelberger!

>> No.65065517

>>65065475
>significantly better
>at a 36-50% higher price

>> No.65065523

>>65065496
Zen can now go from 3.9-4.1GHz to 4.1-4.3GHz
Or literally worse improvements since Intel rereleased Haswell in 2014.

>> No.65065532

All right guys, enough with the cpu shitt, lets get back to the "bg" of Pcbg

>> No.65065537

So many intel jews in this thread

>> No.65065539

>>65065496
There's rumors for 4.2, I'd imagine 4.3 max.

>> No.65065542

>>65065387
IDK about FreeNAS, but plain Linux and most other Unix-likes do support that without a hassle.

>> No.65065545

>>65065532
Reo that fucking shill OP or this thread gets shitposted to bump limit

>> No.65065549

Am I going insane? Did the GTX 1070 just go up in price?

>> No.65065554

>>65065545
what are you even saying? whats wrong with OP?

>> No.65065567

>>65065554
he is infatuated with poozed cpus

>> No.65065570

>>65065475
As of right now AMD seems a better choice. Cheaper mobos that will last untill 2020 and unlocked cpu. Even the benchmarks i saw seems to run smoother on 1600. Things could change in the near future

>> No.65065575

>>65065505
No, you can't. Freesync/Gsync is only really useful around 60fps anyways, if you're targeting 120fps you won't notice a difference.

>> No.65065579

>>65065570
as compared to what, 8400? cite your sources

>> No.65065595

>>65065412
>Austin Evans are better in every way
Hello soy.

>> No.65065597

Also I wouldn't really recommend the G4560 right now, since it's being replace by a 300 series Pentium soon.

>> No.65065603

>>65065567
thats just all the op's just ignore him and help peple

>> No.65065649

>>65065597
Pentiums are very short term picks, nice for a year

>> No.65065671

>>65065505
Nvidia/amd gpu on a freesync/gsync monitor is same as a not having it at all. It does not make it any worse.
And yes, you can use adaptive sync in Nvidia control panel since it is a driver feature that just switches vsync on when at monitor's refresh rate to reduce tearing and turns it off when the fps is lower.

>> No.65065686

>>65065570
Stop drinking the Kool-aid
>As of right now AMD seems a better choice
Let me tuck your sweet ass in, sonny
>Cheaper mobos
with less features, lower quality parts, and soon to be matched by H310/B360 motherboards which will undercut B350/B450 and still have more features (apart from overclocking, which almost none of the cheap B350 are adept at doing).
Also, you need to buy significantly more expensive RAM in order to make Ryzen even remotely competitive with Coffee Lake. DDR4-3200 is the bare minimum speed you need to come for a Ryzen 1600 at 3.9 on all cores to get 90% of a Core i5-8400's single threaded IPC. And of course there's this whole issue of most DDR4-2666+ memory kits not working at their advertised speed unless you bought a $100+ B350 or X370 motherboard...
>last untill 2020
And fuck over anyone who kept their old motherboard by locking out features in the newer CPUs (like XFR2.0 in Ryzen 2). Also, there is no guarantee that AM4 will support Zen 2. Remember what happened with AM1?
>unlocked cpu
You need an unlocked CPU for Zen just to catch up with a stock clock Coffee Lake, and even then it's not enough to compete.
>Even the benchmarks i saw seems to run smoother on 1600
Can you prove that with solid numbers? No? Then it's invalid
>Things could change in the near future
Multi-threaded support stops after 6 threads for compatibility reasons with older operating systems. That's never going to change.

>> No.65065700

Ok guys. I have quite of a big problem. I purchased a r3 2200g, asked for a bootkit and updated bios of my mobo and put inside r3.
My conf is:
R3 2200g
Asrock b350m pro4
8 gb random value ddr4 memory
Gtx 670.
As soon as i start the pc with the nvidia connected it will freeze after some time. The screen frezes, event viewer tell me nvdrivers crashed and anything apart from audio won't work.
So i tried the gpu in another pc and it works fine. I said, ok. Let's try with the APU only. Same freezes. Then i said let's move on the bootkit cpu. With the A8 9600 it will freeze only with gpu in the first slot of the mobo. Without dGPU it runs ok.
What the actual fuck?
The GPU is working fine.
The A8 APU only works with no dGPU
Ryzen 3 2200g is not working in any possible way.
At first i was pointing my finger at the mobo, but it shouldn't work with A8 too...
Any suggestion?

>> No.65065710

>>65065686
>You need an unlocked CPU for Zen just to catch up with a stock clock Coffee Lake, and even then it's not enough to compete.

Id say your right on the first part, but after OC they are fairly evenly matched

>> No.65065714

>>65065710
>after OC they are fairly evenly matched
Bullshit. Show me the numbers.

>> No.65065740

Seems kinda weird that AMD isn't releasing a 2500X or 2300X.
>Hurr 2200G and 2400G is all they need
No it's not, the APU's aren't soldered and the ones without integrated graphics are. It's probably not a big deal for the 4C/4T ones but I can totally see someone wanting a 4C/8T CPU with solder.

>> No.65065763

>>65065740
Why would you want Zen CPUs without iGPUs? The only saving grace of the entire Zen line-up is the APUs because what they fall short on CPU power, they make up for in graphics (although a sub $100 GT1030 puts that to shame...).

>> No.65065776

>>65065700
Did you install Windows from scratch? Sounds like you have conflicting drivers.

>> No.65065802

>>65065776
Yes I did.
I also tested rams too with memtest and they are fine. Also Turned on performance mode on windows to avoid any problem with power plans

>> No.65065825

>>65065686
>less features
>lower quality parts
that is entirely dependent on manufacturer and both amd and intel boards suffer from it.
if were comparing boards with similar features (sans intel specific shit) and quality then amd boards are still noticeably cheaper

>> No.65065864

>>65065802
Are there any new BIOS' on the motherboard manufacturer's website? I know they had to release multiple versions to fix crashes and bugs, try updating to the newest one.

>> No.65065868

R7 Vs threadripper.

Obviously threadripper is the better of the two, but a huge jump in terms of money.

Will an R7 be ok for having 2-3 VMs running concurrently?

>> No.65065882

>>65065864
Updated to newer version that came out couple of days ago. Ryzen APUs are supported since 4.30 i updated to 4.50 and then to 4.70.
Nothing changed

>> No.65065896

>>65065825
>that is entirely dependent on manufacturer
No it's not
>LGA1151 supports PCIe Gen 3.0 from its PCH
>AM4 only support PCIe Gen 2.0 from it's chipset
>LGA1151 supports up to 8 SATA devices from its PCH
>AM4 only supports up to 6 SATA devices, with 2 from the CPU that is deactivated if you already have a PCIe storage device.
>LGA1151 supports full PCIe3.0 x4 NVMe specification from the PCH
>AM4 only supports PCIe2.0 x4 (twice as slow)
>LGA1151 supports a wider range of coolers and accessories
>AM4 has a much more limited support for coolers, often needing a new mounting bracket for it to fit
>LGA1151 has pins on the motherboard so it's harder to mess up a CPU installation
>AM4 has pins on the CPU package, making it prone to breaking

>> No.65065899

>>65065882
I'd assume it's the motherboard since it has very bad reviews

>> No.65065920

>>65065868
Xeon E3-1270 v6 and a C232 motherboard
Supports ESXi and Hyper-V with 100% ECC support, unlike AMD

>> No.65065930

>>65065882
Sorry but it's probably your motherboard, just RMA it for a new one.

>> No.65065949

>>65065920
My heart is set on AMD. Vfio.

>> No.65065963

>>65065949
Enjoy your compatibility and instability issues, fucko

>> No.65065978

>>65065899
>>65065930
I was reading some reviews on my local amazon and i found a link heading to amazon.com
Found out seems a production problem on this line of boards that causes some random freezes. Well... Guess i'll order a x370 pro and fuck this cheap ass shit

>> No.65065996

>>65065542
Thank you senpai for your advice.

>> No.65066027

Whens Snowy Owl

>> No.65066062

Sup /g/, first time ever building a pc.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zbcHNQ

+ https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/model/UM.UE2AA.A01 for 170$
+ http://www.edifier.com/int/en/speakers/s330d-2.1-gaming-speakers for 89$
and https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=9SIABY76NV9847 for 50$

Using ethernet so no need for wifi cards.
Already own a mouse.
Got a comfy chair for 99$ and a desktop for 50$.

How'd I do ? Fucked up anywhere ?

>> No.65066118
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>>65065896
Holy shit, did you seriously think you could get away with blatantly lying? You just compared B350 (a midrange AMD chipset) with Z370 (a high end Intel chipset). X370 supports 8 SATA devices, with NONE from the CPU. It only kills one SATA port if you have a SATA m.2 device. If you have an NVMe m.2 device, no SATA ports are lost.

>AM4 has pins on the CPU package, making it prone to breaking
You can lap AMD CPU's easily without pins breaking. Also you can fix PGA pins, whereas fixing an LGA mobo is nigh impossible.

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>>65066118
>X370 supports 8 SATA devices, with NONE from the CPU
How long do you think it takes for someone to call out your blatant lying, shill? Straight from AMD's own presser, no less

>> No.65066140

>>65066118
This thread is full of Intel shills blatantly lying. One tried to claim that Intel have given people nearly five years of support with LGA 1151 earlier (despite the socket coming to market in late 2015 and getting an incompatible revision last year). Must be a new tactic, since the facts aren't in their favour.

>> No.65066154
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>>65066118
>It only kills one SATA port if you have a SATA m.2 device
Wrong again, SATA M.2s take up TWO PCIe lanes. Which means that a single M.2 SATA device will disable TWO SATA ports from the CPU.

>> No.65066169

>>65066134
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

SATAe stand for SATA Express, one SATAe means two standard SATA connection. Holy shit fucking kill yourself brainlet Intel shill.

>> No.65066176

>>65063736
>using imperial units
what fucking century is it OP

>> No.65066191

>>65066154
i literally just posted my own motherboard manual you fucking retard. I can take a picture of the SATA slots if you want.

>> No.65066213
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>>65065475
>everything
Easily disprovable

>>65065567
The OP has a bunch of Intel CPUs as well, retard.

>>65065686
>Cheaper mobos with less features, lower quality parts, and soon to be matched by H310/B360 motherboards which will undercut B350/B450 and still have more features (apart from overclocking, which almost none of the cheap B350 are adept at doing)
Overclocking is one of the main features of a B350. All B350s can supply a moderate OC which is all anyone sane is doing anyway. The rest of the "points" (features, undercut, etc) in your comment are also obviously wrong.

>Multi-threaded support stops after 6 threads for compatibility reasons
Obviously false

>>65065700
Reinstall Windows from scratch using only the 2200G

>> No.65066214

>>65066191
It's AMD's own words versus your photoshopped shit.
>>65066169
And how many SATAe devices have you seen on the market? Kill yourself, senpai, you're a disgrace to your genetic bloodline and your black stepfather.

>> No.65066218

Is Asus Xonar Essense STX worth $80 used?

>> No.65066231

Ah, it must be morning in India. All of the AMD shills are out and about.

>> No.65066264
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>>65066214
This is what SATAe looks like. It's two SATA ports and one small "bonus" port for SATAe devices. (Which don't exist) Again, one SATAe port is for all intents and purposes two SATA ports.

>> No.65066286

>>65066264
Also you're either retarded or being intentionally deceptive because Intel has had the same SATAe ports since Skylake.

>> No.65066326

>all these claims of B350 competitors coming soon
>no release date
Face it, Intelfags. Ryzen2 is going to come out and hit the final nail on Intel's coffin.

>> No.65066330
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65066330

Does this price seem worth it? Also, I am having trouble with what ram to get I am trying to go with what the QVL says. If I got 2666mhz ram would it be bad? or should I spend more on the 3000mhz?

>> No.65066375

>>65065978
The B350 PC Mate/Tomahawk, GA-AB350-Gaming 3 or B350-F Rog Strix would be enough. If you have a mATX case go for the GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 or Turf B350M-Plus and if you want X370 get the AX370 K5/K7 or Crosshair VI Hero

>> No.65066379

>>65066286
Anon you're just being a retarded shill. There's no bias one way or the other and the OP looks pretty impartial. All your claims about the shit on the PCH is just horseshit as it's all limited to the 4x link on it anyway.

>> No.65066413

>>65066326
Have you considered becoming a comedian?

>> No.65066426
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65066426

I hear a lot of hate for the Razer Ornata Keyboard from the Mech keyboard elitists. Is it actually that bad of a keyboard? Is there a better option (preferably without having to piece together my own custom keyboard)?

I'm used to my laptops chiclet keys from using it for years, and the low/mid keycaps on the Ornata seem like they would be comfortable to use for me, especially with the wristwrest.

>> No.65066449

Good evening /gentlemen/
I'm not sure this is the right thread for it but what keyboard and mouse combo would you reccomend for casual gaymen and moderate typing? Keyboard and mouse ARE part of a pc build but correct me if I'm wrong.

>> No.65066454

>>65066379
I was responding to myself, I was the guy who owned an X370 board. I was saying the Intel shill is being intentionally dishonest because Coffee Lake mobos have the same SATAe configuration as Ryzen, so it makes no sense why he would be confused.

>> No.65066496

>>65066449
G502 is pretty much the standard mouse recommendation. It does everything well, but it's ~$70. For keyboards anything mechanical is probably fine, I have cherry brown switches and they work great for me.

>> No.65066532

>>65066496
What if I'm used to shitty laptop keyboards and can do ok with them. Should I still opt for a mechanical one, or drop some € on a cheap office keyboard and upgrade in the future if need be?
Thx.

>> No.65066538

I've spent $150 on Noctua fans and I CAN'T STOP

>> No.65066572

>>65066532
If you don't want to go all out on keyboards you can buy rubber dome. They look like mechanical keyboards but are cheaper and aren't as loud which means they're good if you have roommates. I recommend buying a keyboard from an actual store if there's one nearby, that way you can try it out yourself.

>> No.65066654

>>65063736
>feet
Fucking autismo

>> No.65066664
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>>65066062
Any thoughts, anyone?

>> No.65066689

>>65066572
Thank you kindly, Anon.

>> No.65066771
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>>65066538
>All that brown
>No RGB

>> No.65066916
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65066916

Help me out here folks. I first built my PC around four years ago and haven't touched it since. I now want to add an SSD to my build, but I don't have the screws anymore that came with the case (lost in moving probably.)

My case is a Zalman Z9 plus. I looked up the included screws in my case, and the description it gives me for the 2.5" mounting board screws are "B Bolts (PWH M3*5) [M/B, FDD, SSD Installation]"

Does anyone know what PWH M3*5 means? Can I just go out and get the same screws as this? Here is a link to my case. The included screws and cords are on the bottom.

http://www.zalman.com/contents/products/view.html?no=362

>> No.65066923

>>65066771
They come in other colors

>> No.65066932

Leds are cancer

>> No.65066982

>>65066932
Still on CRT?

>> No.65066996

>>65066916
just use wood screws

>> No.65067017

>>65066982
Meant in gaymen hardware

>> No.65067031

>>65066923
Only black with color pads. The white ones are shitty

>> No.65067149

I found a GTX 1080ti for $120 on ebay and bought it. Do you guys think it's real or is something else gonna come in the mail?

>> No.65067175

>>65067149
It's definitely real, enjoy anon.

>> No.65067183

>>65067149
You'll be lucky if it is a brick

>> No.65067185

>>65067149
A great find, anon. Enjoy your new legitimate authentic GTX 180 with 896MB of GDDR4 VRAM.

>> No.65067212

>>65067149
LOL

>> No.65067241

Should I settle for a gtx 1060 6GB and wait for 1070 prices to go down? I was tempted to go all in and buy it, but I'm willing to wait.

>> No.65067243

I'm running a 4k monitor but I miss having 2. Would I have weird problems if I added like a cheap 1080p? Like would it effect the performance in some way?

>> No.65067278

>>65067241
your best bet is waiting for the 2050ti or 2060
I don't think those current gen gpus are ever going back to normal prices

>> No.65067284

>>65067243
no, it would only look like shit because if the dpi difference

>> No.65067320

>>65067284
What if I were to get the same resolution I have now if I can find a cheaper one? Would that just be pointless?

>> No.65067331

>>65067320
only if you don't have a use for a second screen
how big is that 4k monitor of yours anyway? at what dpi setting do you use it?

>> No.65067375

>>65067241
Prices won't go down and the only thing a 1060 should be upgraded to is a 1080 Ti or similar

>> No.65067393

>want to use fakeapp to make lewdies
>can't because it uses cuda
why do people buy amd again

>> No.65067395

>>65066916
Just use tape or wedge it behind the side panel and motherboard tray. SSDs don't really mind since they have no moving parts

>> No.65067399

>>65067149
If you don't post what happens with it here, you're full of shit

>> No.65067408

>>65067331
Its 24 inches and I honestly don't know the other thing

>> No.65067423

>>65067408
can you read everything comfortably from 2 feet away?

>> No.65067434

>>65067423
Yes why?

>> No.65067648

Is this a good build? Should I go with R5 1600 or I5 8400?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/BlueBoo/saved/MLqnnQ

>> No.65067740

>>65067648
You're paying too much for your mobo unless it has some specific feature you want.
Also you don't need a liquid cooler unless, again, you want it for some reason like just looking cool (which is valid)

I have the same processor with a cooler master hyper and it never hits 50 degrees

Take the money you save and get yourself a better graphics card. The 1070 ti is so close in price to a 1080 but so far away in performance

>> No.65067757

>>65067740
Also, If suggest finding a case with more fans, because I'm just realizing that it definitely contributes how cool my system is

>> No.65067792

>>65067740
Thanks bud, I'll find a diff motherboard

>> No.65067818

>>65067792
Sorry I keep realizing new things, your ram is pretty slow. I found these at a micro center for like $205 or something a month ago m.newegg.com/products/N82E16820232476
Just make sure it matches on the qvl list for your board

>> No.65067854

>>65067818
Oh darn that is slow, I didn't even notice thanks

>> No.65067909

What AMD GPUs are faster than a 6gb GTX1060?

>> No.65067940

>>65067909
RX 580, Vega 56 & 64 and Fury X

>> No.65067985

>>65067854
This motherboard is cheaper
https://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-AX37GK5&c=CJ
This SSD is cheaper, consider a MX300 275GB for a little more and the Eclipse P400
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7YQRsY/a-data-ultimate-su800-256gb-25-solid-state-drive-asu800ss-256gt-c
Swap the AIO for a NH-U9S or a NHD15, the PSU for a Focus Plus Gold and get this kit
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cvGj4D/team-dark-pro-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-tdpgd416g3200hc14adc01

>> No.65068004

>>65067940
thanks bro

>> No.65068116

>>65067648
Probably i5 8400 with a 1070Ti @ 1080p 144Hz
Might not matter depending on the games you play

>>65067149
You're out of $120 until it's a confirmed scam

>> No.65068151

>>65067909
>>65067940
>>65068004
580 is a hard maybe. In some games it is yet in others it is not

>> No.65068154

is it worth upgrading if I'm at 1080p/60hz and have:
>GTX 970
>i5-4690k
>8GB RAM
>no SSD

also for some reason in Speccy it says my RAM's clockspeed is 801mhz? anyone know what could cause that?

>> No.65068216
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>>65068154
Speccy reports the RAM clock, not the bandwidth. If you have 1600MHz it actually clocks at 800 and the data is processed in pairs

Definitely buy a 500GB SSD
You'll have to live with your 970 because anything better is way overpriced or out of stock
It's a good time to buy processors, but you'll have to get an 8600K, 8700, or 8700K to have any single-thread benefit. If you want a Ryzen chip that performs better all-around, wait a couple months for the 12nm release.

>> No.65068253

>>65068216
thanks, i'll probably just get an SSD and stick with my other parts since I don't want to get a mobo

I wish the cryptokikes didn't skyrocket the prices of GPUs

>> No.65068284

>>65062784

I already have a rig, but it is a prebuilt from 9 years ago. (It is still using a 275 gtx after all) which is why I was interested in building a computer, but if you say it is a bad idea to build a computer right now I'll concentrate on getting the monitor first.

>> No.65068332

>>65068284
Your whole PC is probably worthless by now. If you don't have the money to buy everything except a video card then you shouldn't even bother

>> No.65068348

>>65068332
Then your suggestion at this point is to just buy everything at once?

>> No.65068392

>>65068348
CPU, RAM, and motherboard all need to be bought at the same time. SSDs are a staple of modern builds, but your old PC doesn't support SATA 3 or M.2 so there isn't a point in getting one before that.
PSU and case probably need an upgrade, but you don't necessarily need to buy them at the same time.
Video cards can't be bought right now so you'll have to wait either way. Intel's iGPU (and definitely Vega 8/11) is probably better than the 275 though

>> No.65068414

>>65068348
yeah build everything at once if possible
if you need a computer right now you can build 1 you will just need to use your old GPU or use integrated graphics until the market isn't so shit

>> No.65068425
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When people mount AIO like this won't the tubes obstruct the airflow of the front panel fans?

>> No.65068438
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My computer started to freeze up today when I was playing the FFXV demo. When I would go into the BIOS setting it only showed 4 gigs instead of 8. When I would go into windows it would show 4 gigs hardware reserved. I did the msconfig to try to get the 4 gigs back. Tried playing again, computer froze, had to do the whole bit again. Is my ram going bad or is something else the culprit? This just happened today.

>> No.65068448

>>65068425
Airflow is a meme, pretty much every test proves cable management doesn't affect temps beyond like one degree, as long as you have SOME airflow you're fine.

>> No.65068452

How's this?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/BlueBoo/saved/DPLTHx

I didn't really feel comfortable with an ssd brand I didn't recognize so I'm sticking with the WD and I'm also sticking with the master liquid cause it looks nice

>> No.65068467

What are the limitations of this build? I haven't built a pc before but I'm sure I can manage. I
am after a decent gaming rig but I'm not too bothered about it being fucking super or anything.
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/guide/HVXscf/magnificent-amd-gaming-build

>> No.65068468

>>65068438
Probably not pushed in all the way., If that's not it it's either a problem with your RAM or your CPU's memory controller.

>> No.65068523
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>>65063844

Coffee lake is already launched no? The 8400 and such?

>> No.65068527

>>65068452
Honestly, your monitor isn't taking full advantage of your GPU. How about getting a 1440p monitor with 144hz? Otherwise, why not get a cheaper gpu, like a 1070?

>> No.65068540

>>65068468
I remembered that a while back I had issues with a ram stick not being detected in Windows or BIOS. Only when I switched the DIMMs did the computer recognize there where to sticks. I guess I will boot up my comp with 1 stick and see if there are no issues but it seems like there might be. Anyone happen to know the warranty for HyperX ram? Bought the ram in November of 2016.

>> No.65068558
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65068558

>>65068438
This >>65068468
Some RAM sticks are not straight at the bottom so even if you heard the click sound when putting it in, the other side could still be not seated properly

>> No.65068567

>>65068425
The difference is nowhere near noticable. The only things that seriously reduce airflow are solid front panels (some cases have very small intake slits), HDD cages, radiators, and dust filters.
>>65068452
Biggest issue is the $700 1080, and along with that your monitor which is not good enough for it.
Don't buy the AIO cooler. You're basically paying $50 to kill case and VRM airflow.
You don't need the X370 board and you could get better RAM for the same price.
Also consider a 500GB SSD
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vPnpbX

>> No.65068594

>>65068452
It's a little eh. With a GTX 1080 and a 144Hz monitor, you should consider the i5 8400.
Monitor is also eh, get the MSI Optix for that sweet HDR10 and better viewing angles.

>>65068467
>I am after a decent gaming rig
That build isn't what you're looking for then. Too expensive and it would go to waste unless you spent another 600USD on a good monitor. Check the OP builds

>>65068284
Post your speccy

>>65068154
I'd grab and SSD then keep what you have. Your next upgrades are probably an i7 4770K + 2x 4GB of the same speed and timing RAM.

>>65068216
Kind of meh CPU advice. No reason for him to upgrade his CPU right now, and he can get a cheap i7 if he were to upgrade it.

>> No.65068850
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65068850

Todays the today my case turns up. Feels good, anyone got a node 202 and have any advice on what directions to set up fans? Planning two 120 and one 140 (Above the cpu).

>> No.65068857
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65068857

>>65068594
>Post your speccy

>>65068392
Is there anything I can buy to stick into my old pc for the time being while slowly upgrading?

>>65068414
I should really stick to my 275 gtx? Isn't there something I can remotely upgrade for gpu for the time being to hold me over?

>> No.65068884

>>65068857
>I should really stick to my 275 gtx
you could upgrade to a 1050ti or 1060 3/6gb if you wanted
it really just matters how much you are willing to spend
if you are really tight on money you could do a ryzen apu

>> No.65068912

>>65066449
>>65066496
>G502 is pretty much the standard mouse recommendation. It does everything well, but it's ~$70.
g502 is heavy as fuck. either pick g403 which is better or g203 which is the best budget mouse

>> No.65068932

Do 15.6" 1080p monitors not exist or am I going to have to settle for one of these portable ones?
https://www.centrecom.com.au/aoc-i1601fwux-56-ips-full-hd-usb-type-c-portable-monitor
https://www.centrecom.com.au/asus-mb169b-156-fulll-hd-portable-usb-powered-monitor

>> No.65068954

>>65068932
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAC406V11114

>> No.65069124

How much of a difference is there between a DDR3 and DDR4 motherboard in regards to the r3 2200g? I've already got 8GB of DDR3 RAM, so I'd be able to trim 80 bucks off my budget build.

>> No.65069142

>>65069124
well AM4 requires DDR4 so there is a pretty big difference

>> No.65069229

What is the most affordable timeframe to shoot for not having to replace your computer parts?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CbC8KB
This is the build I put together focusing on affordable parts (cpu, gpu, and ram) that will last a while and be relatively powerful. Some other parts I plan on carrying over to future builds (case, HDD's, SSD, PSU) if they manage to remain usable and functional which is why I'm spending more on buying great/reliable parts. However I plan on tossing the mobo and dropping 1080p when I upgrade after a couple of years.

I need help understanding what sort of expansion card I should get for setting up Raid/5 on my HDD's. I plan on using this machine for 1080p Gayming, Programming, and archiving memes/waifus/anime/books/podcasts/youtube videos/etc. Raid 5 should give me 20 terabytes of space with decent reliability right? Is there a super reliable 5TB drive that I should buy that's a different brand to specifically use as my redundancy drive?

Do I need a Sata Expansion card and a Raid controller card?

>> No.65069245

Looking for a 60hz ips monitor which I can easily switch into portrait (vertical) for shooting games.
Don't need some gaming shit, sub 5ms is good enough.

>> No.65069251

>>65069229
Also I'm retarded. that's supposed to be a 512GB MX300 SSD.

>> No.65069322

>>65069229
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WfnpbX
this mobo has 6 sata connections
everything else looks fine except you may want to get a 750W PSU if you plan on upgrading later on

>> No.65069325
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>>65069229
I'll just go down the list
That cooler is worse than stock
You don't necessarily need to drop AM4 boards to upgrade; all of Ryzen should be compatible on 1st gen chipsets

If you are sure you want RAID 5 and know the performance limitations, you'll need a controller because motherboards usually only support 0, 1 and 10. If you are not sure about this, I would be safe and go with an X370 board that has more SATA ports and mirroring your disks so you don't take the performance hit.

>> No.65069385

>>65069325
The performance hit is shittier write speed correct? It sounded pretty significant but I feel like it's going to be faster than my download speed most of the time.

>> No.65069398

>>65069325
Also >That cooler is worse than stock
Would you group a good cooler as a reliable part that should carry over like the case/psu? I'd be fine buying a Noctua DH15 if I can just bring it over in like 3 years when I upgrade my GPU and CPU.

>> No.65069599

>>65065243
/thread

>> No.65069609

>>65063736
>>G4560
Kill yourself.

>> No.65069670

>>65068884
What about upgrading to something like a 750 ti?

>> No.65069810
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65069810

How are these readings? I heard from someone that GPU usage should ideally be at 100% at all times. These sporadic dips to 0% have me worried that something may be wrong.

>> No.65069857

>that one faggot a year ago that told me I shouldn't be happy because I bought a 1080 for 500 bucks
>they're now around 900 bucks
lol
fuck you faggot
I know you're out there

>> No.65069858
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>>65063736

I'm planning on buying an SSD and I've narrowed it down to the two best candidates but there's one thing I'm not sure how to evaluate.

Samsung Evo 850 vs Crucial MX500

They are about the same in specs with the EVO being a bit more expensive. My only problem is that the EVO is nearing 4 years of age and I'm not sure of two things:

1. The MX500 can turn out to have some faults since it's been out for just two months.

2. The Evo 850 is old, so it surely will be reliable but I'm afraid I'll be sold a unit that has been laying on the shelf for a long time. Does inactive time affect the disks?

Maybe it's just better to buy the newer and better technology MX500?

>> No.65070002

How long should I let Prime95 run before I can say the system is stable?

>> No.65070031

>>65069810
are you playing a game on origin or a ubisoft game?
their servers are fucked

>> No.65070062

>>65069810
What software is that

>> No.65070077

About to get a sweet-ass job (basically my dream job) and still living with parents so low bills. Is this build good?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GXfgd6

>> No.65070082

>>65070002
72 hours

>> No.65070106

>>65070062
non-free software

>> No.65070110

>>65070077
super overkill but i assume thats the point
only thing I would change is getting more hard drives of smaller sizes
you could do RAID which is faster or just spread your shit out so if your drive fails you don't lose everything
you may also want to get an m.2 or sata SSD as a boot drive

>> No.65070119

>>65070077
>no SSD for BOOTS
3/10

>> No.65070125

>>65070106
It's free though.

>> No.65070134

>>65070077
Why do you want an ass job

>> No.65070137

>>65070110
>>65070119
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dpRVYT

How's this? RAID on the 12tbs btw

>> No.65070150

>>65070031
Dark Souls PC Port.
>>65070062
MSI Afterburner.

>> No.65070193

>>65070137
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZrnpbX
RAID 5 is supported by your board

>> No.65070201

>>65069810
it matters what goes on during those
is it hanging or freezing when it drops?

>> No.65070230

>>65070193
Ah yeah, i might just do that instead

>> No.65070374

>>65067393
I don’t know how big and complicated the CUDA parts that fakeapp uses are – if it’s not much and you’re on Linux ready to do a bit of work, you can try AMD’s HIP-project. It’s basically a CUDA-clone that can compile to both the normal CUDA backend and some novel AMD GPU compute backend called "HCC".

github.com/ROCm-Developer-Tools/HIP

There’s a script included ("hipify") which can do most of the CUDA->HIP porting work automatically. The whole thing is still far from perfect, but I successfully ported a CUDA crypto miner with this. Maybe you can find some more guys interested in this and maintain an open source HIP port. (Seems to be a pretty popular project, after all.)

If you run into issues, it’s often best to file a bug directly with the ROCm repo (umbrella for everything related to AMD’s "HCC" open source compute push), because devs are most responsive there.

github.com/RadeonOpenCompute/ROCm

>> No.65070396

>>65070374
Actually there seems to be guide for running deepfakes on AMD here, though it uses OpenCL-tensorflow: https://www.deepfakes.club/deepfakes-with-amd-graphics-card/

If it’s really only about tensorflow, there is also a HIP-port available here:
https://github.com/ROCmSoftwarePlatform/hiptensorflow

Good luck~

>> No.65070433

>>65067393
Just rent GPU time on cloud

>> No.65070453

>>65065896
AM4 supports PCIE 3.0 numbnuts

>> No.65070478
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65070478

What are doing to your machines recently anons?
Replacing my shit chinese case and fans with a meshify and noctua fans tomorrow
Also got an r9 290 in the mail to replace my dying 7870
Only thing really left to replace is my power supply which is a mediocre bequiet system power 8 500w, but there's really no point is there?

>> No.65070485

>>65070478
thinking about replacing the mobo and CPU for dual xeons off the chink markets

>> No.65070487

I'm building a mITX PC with ssds only. What should I go with? I was thinking a 960 evo 250gb m2 for boot and a 1tb 850 evo for storage, with space for a 2nd down the line if needed.

Is this a good choice, or should I scrap all that and just get a MX300 1.1tb m2 drive, which works out cheaper? I don't know shit about m2 or their speeds, if a boot drive is even worth it.

>> No.65070570

Why do people recommend intel? AMDs APUs are powerful and shame anything intel, and you don't even need a gpu with them which is great given the current prices.

>> No.65070771

>>65070570
Intel is still better in single-threaded performance, which is what many programs are still optimized for. That being said, I'm glad AMD is giving Intel a good run for their money.

>> No.65070933

>>65070570
>and you don't even need a gpu with them
If the only thing you play is Minecraft at 720p.

>> No.65071084

Just decided to never buy anything AMD ever again. Who with me?

>> No.65071101

>>65071084
>Just decided to never buy anything good ever again.
Pass.

>> No.65071173

>>65071101
What's good about AMD? Only the price, but they're not even that good for what you're getting either. I'm tired after years of being an AMDcuck,

>> No.65071190

>>65071173
Well I'm tired after years of being an intelcuck
in fact I'm tired of all these shitty fucking companies making complete garbage
fuck intel
fuck amd
fuck nvidia
fuck that chink CPU company

>> No.65071223

>>65071190
>that chink CPU company

There's a new competitor in the CPU game?

>> No.65071264

>>65071223
For normal consumers, no

>> No.65071494

Trying to figure a replacement monitor since mine is dying, but I'm a complete dunce when it comes to this kind of stuff.

I game quite a bit (mostly indie stuff/emulators), but I also watch many videos + edit (both photos and video). I feel like TN would harm my editing endeavors more than it would benefit my gaming, so I'm pretty much settled on IPS.

While researching lightly around, I seem to see people mostly recommending Dell Ultrasharp monitors, and specifically the U2415 (16:10, 1200p, 1.3k BRL) and the U2717D (16:9, 1440p, 2.3k BRL). Would those be decent choices or am I better off with something else?

Not much point in stating my budget since prices are inflated as fuck over here in Hueland, but it would be 2.5k BRL at most. I also have a 550 TI. Yes, I know I need to upgrade, but I need to get a new monitor as soon as possible.

>> No.65071513

I'm not patient enough to wait for the 4K 144Hz monitors to release later this year, UGH.

>> No.65071553

>>65071513
I could wait 5 years so long as they don't have awful quality control

>> No.65071579

>>65071084
All AMD did was save itself from bankruptcy by revolutionizing the CPU industry for a third time

>> No.65071646

I got a ryzen 1600, GTX 1050, and 16 GB of ram (dunno it matters), what wattage should the PSU be?

>> No.65071682

>>65071646
550 is where PSUs start to get good, but you would also be fine at anywhere over 400.

>> No.65071723

>>65071579
There's nothing revolutionary about the ryzen, just a huge improvement from their own predecessors.

>> No.65071724

>>65071579
>third time

Fuck you cunt, I already fell for the bulldozer meme. Shit is hot garbage, even if overclocks nicely.

>> No.65071744

>>65070487
Please respond.

>> No.65071777

>>65071723
The industry now has more cores or threads at every price point
Ryzen itself is not explicitly extraordinary, but the ability to get there is what counts.
>>65071724
Not even comparable

>>65070487
>>65071744
Go for a cheaper SSD, MX300 is good but also consider 860 EVO and WD Blue M.2
NVMe SSDs are good technology but still way too expensive compared to AHCI drives to justify paying more

>> No.65071805

WD purples good for anything?

>> No.65071825

>>65071777
>Go for a cheaper SSD, MX300 is good but also consider 860 EVO and WD Blue M.2
>NVMe SSDs are good technology but still way too expensive compared to AHCI drives to justify paying more
While I don't get all those terms you're basically saying the 960 isn't worth it, if I'm not doing crazy read/write shit? Just going to playing games. So I'll go with the WD Blue and just pick up larger SDDs for storage later when needed. Thanks.

>> No.65071838

>>65071777
Whats the difference between these?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/DgJtt6/western-digital-blue-1tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-wds100t2b0b

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/CDKhP6/western-digital-blue-1tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-wds100t1b0b

>> No.65071847

>>65071777
Its not thanks to ryzen we got more cores on coffee lake, just a little bit sooner.

>> No.65071883

>>65071838
Model number
Should be the same, likely just old and new stock

>> No.65071884

JUST for how long do us gamers have to withstand all this ass-ramming from these damn miners?

>> No.65071909

>>65071884
Another year at lease. This generaton of gpus are written off. More aren't going to pushed out at any good rate. Your best solution for gpus is to start saving now and pre order one from the 20xx series or whatever amd are going to do.

>> No.65071915

>>65071777
>Not even comparable

Yes it is retard. It supposedly "revolutionized" the industry.

>> No.65071923

why is amd bad

>> No.65071930

>>65071915
If you want to talk hot garbage, Intel has a myriad of thermally-limited processors.

>> No.65071955

>>65071923
It's run by pajeets

>> No.65071995

>cant buy an intel because I'd be paying for more than I'd get because le spectre patch
>cant buy an AMD because they don't have actual new commercial server CPUs
fun time to be alive

>> No.65072033

>>65071995
Just buy fucking Intel you cuck

>> No.65072034

>>65071930
Which you can avoid. Not the case with AMD, all they offer is hot garbage. The GPU's are trash too.

>> No.65072036

>>65072033
>oyy veyy just buy these xeons that lose a huge chunk of their server power because we cut corners

>> No.65072037

>>65071995
>le spectre patch

What's this about? The security issue that resulted in lower performance?

>> No.65072046

WEHN

>> No.65072070

>>65072034
Undervolt if you care that much
Feel the power of soldering

>> No.65072080

>>65072070
???

>> No.65072081

>>65064814
Please respond.

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65072127

>>65064814
>>65072081
RAID the first two, use the 500GB for more important storage (unless you do RAID 1), and HDD for everything else

>> No.65072154

>>65072127
So, Windows and important files and programs on the 500, the two 250s in RAID for games and stuff that needs to load fast like VMs, and the HDD for crap, old games, etc.? I've never used any kind of RAID setup in my life. Is Windows 7's striped volume shit okay? The only other choice is my motherboard's solution.

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65072163

>>65072127
Oh, and cute picture. Here's one for you.

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65072234

>>65072154
>>65072163
That's probably the best way to go. Always have backups of everything on striped data, at least if you mind losing it.

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65072255

Intel made me whole

>> No.65072263

>>65072255
Imbecile

>> No.65072376

>>65070933
Fuck off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZx96JHL6_o

>> No.65072391

>>65072037
No, that's Meltdown and it only affects Intel

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65072551

>>65072234
Thanks, anon. A big hug for you.

>> No.65072877

how do i deal with a whirring fan?

>> No.65072891

>>65072255
Show your ugly face, homo.

>> No.65072916

>>65072877
Apply lube

>> No.65072934

Hey, may anyone advice me what monitor to get in order to match nicely with a GTX 1080 Ti. I was leaning towards ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q or Asus ROG PG278QR. Does any one of these two seem good?

>> No.65072986
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65072986

Looking at a PC from PowerSpec. It has
>R7-1700 with stock wraith spire cooler
>Asus B350 Pro ATX
>16GB DDR4-2133 (2x8GB, 4 ram slots total)
>Asus GTX 1070 8GB
>CM Master Lite 600w
>480GB SATA based m.2 SSD
>inside a case that's a clone of a Corsair 100R
>DVD drive
>Windows 10 Pro

Coats $1250. I can't even come close to building it with those specs for that little. I intend to just grab a cheap 1TB and throw it in there. Any reason this isn't a sound idea?

>> No.65073002

>>65072986
As long as there are warranties and stuff just go for it. It's a well known fact by now that prebuilts are a more than viable option because of graphics cards and ram prices.

>> No.65073021
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65073021

Hello everyone. Afterwards moving out of my parents I decided to get a new computer. I already have an SSD and 2 1tb harddrives. I plan on using this pc mostly for gaming. Is this an ok setup? Only 8gb of ram may be too little but I think it will do for the use i plan on giving it. Any tips? Am i getting ripped off?

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65073029

>>65073002
Exactly what I was saying. I did my best to come close and couldn't even touch it price wise. My builds all had 1050Ti's or 1060 3GB cards in them and they still came out to almost $1400. And that was with really cutting corners.

Ram price drops when? I can deal with cards being expensive because the fucking miners are at fault. But why is ram so much fucking money now? I got my 32GB kit of low latency ddr4 for $130. That same kit is now $320.

>> No.65073055

>>65069858
>TLC
I'd get an MLC drive if I were you, better performance and it'll last longer.

>> No.65073079

>>65073055
>Last longer
A TLC based Samsung drive with outlive you unless you're writing literal terabytes per month to the drive. If you are, then yes. An MLC based NVME drive would be up your alley.

>> No.65073130

What are some good GPUs for CAD work?

>>65073055
With 3D TLC that is not a problem.

>> No.65073316

If I get a 2400G to wait on a GPU, what should I then do with the 2400G once I have the GPU? It doesn’t support automatic graphics switching or something like that to save power or something, right?

Should I just sell it and get a better CPU for the same socket once I have the GPU?

>> No.65073385

>>65070201
The frames will drop from 60 to 50. Sometimes a little more if it's really bad.

>> No.65073526
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65073526

So I've been having some stuttering issues with my new RX580, checked the GPU vrm voltage IN via hwinfo and noticed that while in idle it sits at around 11.8V, which is within reasonable tolerance, under load it dropped all the way down to 11.05V at times. I read that a 5% offset is reasonable but this dip is way beyond that, should I get a new one? The one I have is 4 years old and chink but it served ok until now except for some heavy coil whine under load (louder than the GPU). Considering the RX580 is more power hungry than my old card I wouldn't want to fry it but at the same time I'm not sure that will solve the issue.

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65073553

>>65070150
>Dark Souls PC Port.
>100% GPU usage
Are you playing on a GTX 520 or something

>> No.65073564

>>65073553
maybe he's upscaling it 4x

>> No.65073584

>>65073316
HTPC. It's what i'll do with mine.

>> No.65073690

>>65073564
Why the everloving fuck would anyone ever do that

>> No.65074414

>>65073021
Anyone please answer?

>> No.65074455

>>65074414
pcpartpicker.com

>> No.65074826

Can anyone recommend a good silent 1tb hdd? My Hitachi one is pretty loud & which is quite annoying. Also got a 120gb ssd & would like to know how to transfer just the OS files so that it loads from the SSD instead of the hdd.

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65074997

r8

>> No.65075082

any rumors of x470 besides that gigabyte teaser yet?

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65075694

>>65063934
8 core Cannonlake won't even work on current LGA1151 boards let alone Icelake

>> No.65075736

>>65074997
3gb 1060 a shit
case a shit
Memory will run at 2933

>> No.65075782

>>65075736
>3gb 1060 a shit
Its the best choice for 1080p 60Hz gaming atm.

>> No.65075855

Should I grab an ASUS Turbo 1080 for 675€?

>> No.65075892

>>65074455
This doesn't tell me much...

>> No.65075968

>>65075782
>3gb
>1080p
no

>> No.65076083

>>65075968
name one thing 6gb provides significantly better performance at

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