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>Assemble a part list
https://pcpartpicker.com/
>Example gaming builds and _monitor_ suggestions; click on the blue title to see notes
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/
>Learn how to build a PC (You can find a lot more detailed videos on channels like Bitwit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69WFt6_dF8g [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
>How to install Win7 on Ryzen
https://pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1

If you want help:
>State the budget & CURRENCY for your build
>List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)

CPUs:
>NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE
>NO R3 1200/1300X or R5 1400/1500X. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY THE R3 2200G AND R5 2400G
>G4560 - non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card
>R3 2200G - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM) or for gaming WITHOUT a graphics card
>R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming (especially the i5 8400) or multithreaded use CPUs (especially the R5 1600)
>R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper / i7 - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use

RAM:
>Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal
>Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports

Graphics cards:
>Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon)
1080p
>MSRP of standard 1080p cards: 1050Ti, 140USD; 1060 3GB, $200; 1060 6GB, $230; RX 570 4GB, $170; RX 580 4GB, $200
>GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match
1440p
>GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced
>GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match
2160p (4K)
>GTX 1080Ti

General:
>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
>A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor

>> No.64879663

Hey, I'm a scrub when it comes to computers, but I got (what i think) is a good deal on a EVGA 1060 6gig SC (300 dollars even, new).

I'm upgrading from a Radeon HD 7950, and was wondering if investing into a 120hz or a 144hz would be worth it as well. I play CSGO and whatever else usually hot on steam.

thanks.

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>> No.64879782

>>64879663
It's a decent deal, now they're $370. Sure it's worth it, what's your CPU?

>> No.64879828

>>64879663
Any increase in hz would be worth it to me, especially if you play csgo.

>> No.64879834

>>64879782
i7-3930k @ 3.2

I know a few people that tell me not to bother unless i get a 1070 or 1080 because half the time I wont get frame rates high enough to notice. I'm not sure I would considering I've almost always played games at 25-30 FPS on a 60hz monitor

>> No.64879952

Any critiques, things I could be doing better or things I might be doing just plain wrong on this build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z6BGXP .


Thread got archived before I was able to respond last time but someone replied with;

"
Asus makes shit monitors
ssd for anything more than esessial programs is a meme
corsair cases are shit
and don't buy a cpu now ryzen 2000 series comes out in like a month
"


Mostly faggotry but what impact does ryzen 2000 series have on this build? I picked intel because they're shown to out perform ryzen on games because of game's reliance on heavily loading 1-2 cores. What would a new ryzen cpu do differently? Is there any evidence supporting him or is just more faggotry like the rest of his reply?


Any input is appreciated; thanks.

>> No.64879980

>>64879228
If you're still here maybe consider the 25UM58 or the 24MP59G-P (IPS will be better for photo editing) if you go for 144Hz get the GN246HL

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When will I be able to buy a polaris card?

>> No.64880072

>>64879952
>Mostly faggotry but what impact does ryzen 2000 series have on this build? I picked intel because they're shown to out perform ryzen on games because of game's reliance on heavily loading 1-2 cores. What would a new ryzen cpu do differently? Is there any evidence supporting him or is just more faggotry like the rest of his reply?
Unless you already bought a GPU any game you play is going to be shit no matter the CPU
the reason he recommended a ryzen 2000 is because it has really good integrated graphics that blows anything intel has out of the water
it is also much cheaper
also games don't need an ssd get a 250 or 500gb SSD then a big HDD for games or other programs that don't need to load anything super fast
other than that watercooling is a meme
and you probably don't need a 850W PSU

>> No.64880131

affordable RAM when

>> No.64880219

>>64880072

>Unless you already bought a GPU any game you play is going to be shit no matter the CPU, the reason he recommended a ryzen 2000 is because it has really good integrated graphics that blows anything intel has out of the water, it is also much cheaper
I got an old Radeon 7850, which performs about as good as the ryzen 2400g. I planned on using that untill GPU prices drop.

>also games don't need an ssd get a 250 or 500gb SSD then a big HDD for games or other programs that don't need to load anything super fast
I still got a "WD Blue 1TB SATA 6 Gb/s 7200 RPM 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch Desktop Hard Drive (WD10EZEX)", you think that would work fine?

>other than that watercooling is a meme
The only reason I picked that was because every forum/reddit post/reply from anon suggested either the Noctua (which looks like aids) and the dark rock pro 3 which is apparently the most ass backwards thing to install in existence. If you have any recommendations that'll work with my case and are plain looking I would appreciate it.

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Guys, a 32' [email protected] or a 34' Ultrawide [email protected] Monitor for a GTX1080. Both monitors are around the same price.

>> No.64880256

>>64880244
144hz easy bud.

>> No.64880286

>>64880219
>I got an old Radeon 7850
if you already have one and just want to wait then go for it

>I still got a WD Blue 1TB
matters
personally I have a big steam library and have already filled up 2 1TB WD Blues and had to use a 2TB external drive
if you don't download a bunch of games at a time then stick with the 1TB but still reduce the SSD size since its fucking expensive for no good reason
unless you want to waste money anyways

For cooler you can buy different colored fans for the noctua or go with a different cooler in general but I don't have much experience there
water coolers have issues when it comes to sound and inevitable failure
they can also cause issues with VRM temp if you aren't careful
you can check with gamers nexus and see what the testing they have done with air and water coolers

>> No.64880320

>>64880219
You can get the NH-D15 and two of these
https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NF-A14-PWM-chromax-black-swap-premium-grade/dp/B07655KF5C

>> No.64880324

>>64877610
>>64877778
Framerate is provided by the graphics card + CPU. Hz is entirely monitor dependent, brainlet.

>> No.64880333

>>64880256
if i cant consistently hit 100+ fps, is a 144hz monitor worth it? like say i average 65.

>> No.64880334

>>64880286
Thanks for the info man, I'm gonna make some changes.

>> No.64880343

>>64880244
Depends on whether you want the Ultrawide. They're pretty cool but have drawbacks

>> No.64880373

>>64880333
Well do you wanna box yourself in? If you eventually upgrade why not have the extra hz lying around?

It's a two inch difference, ultrawide doesn't always suggest a specific resolution over 2560, but does it in this case? or are both the same res?

If they're both the same res and only differ in two inches and higher hz I would go with the higher hz. Both are massive and anything over 32 for a monitor starts to just blur.

>> No.64880379

>>64880373
I'm sorry, i forgot to say I'm not that guy with the ultrawides, but thank you for your reply.

>> No.64880389

>>64880320
thanks bro.

>> No.64880427

>>64880333
You'll have the monitor for a long time, and you'll be able to buy more and more graphics processing power for cheaper, so eventually you'd be able to hit 144FPS in games where you'd want to (fast paced or insta-kill games) even if you can't now. If the Ultrawide is 100Hz, I wouldn't really worry about refresh rate between the two. Personally I'd say 34" is too big for 1440p (27" is better >>64877242), but the real question is which aspect ratio you want, 16:9 or 21:9.

>> No.64880438

>>64880389
No problem, I prefer the Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass or the P400S Eclipse over the 400c

>> No.64880483

>>64880427
again, i forgot to say I wasn't this guy, but thank you as well. I think that convinced me to go 144.
ASUS Full HD 1080p 144Hz 27"

>> No.64880551

>>64880483
>27''
>1080p
Oh gawd......

>> No.64880556

if my PC has a 240W power supply but uses a 1050 Ti low profile that draws power (75W) from the PCIe slot, will I have a spare 240W or does that come from the PSU still?

I've got an optiplex 390 with 240W, plan on throwing the 1050 and an i5-2500k 3.30Ghz at stock speed in, no overclockan
just worried I won't have enough power for it
I know I posted yesterday but I'm buying the card once my NEETbux goes in at midnight, just want a final opinion

>> No.64880648

>>64880551
wait wait wait, hol up. what are you trying to tell me. if my options are 24 or 27, what should i go with.

>> No.64880665

>>64880551
>1080p monitors (that is, monitors with a 1920x1080 resolution) are very common these days, and at 23" produces a fairly sharp images. A 27" monitor, however, would not look great at 1080p, because its pixel density is lower. You'd probably want a higher resolution (like 2560x1440).

Fuck, thank you.

>> No.64880716

>>64880551
ikr

>> No.64880801

How many inches are ideal for a 4K 60Hz Monitor in your opinion? Are 28" okay?

>> No.64880909

>>64880801
Are 4K 60hz monitors okay?

>> No.64880961

>>64879551
getting $1600 back from taxes. what should i buy?

>> No.64880987
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Anyone have any ideas for cooling in this case? Using an ATX motherboard and a DVD drive. M.2 SSD so the area infront is entirely empty.

>> No.64881080

Sup guys. Just build my first computer with the following specs:

>Kingston 8gb (2x4GB) HyperX Fury DDR4
>Seasonic 520W ATX 80 plus bronze
>Samsung 250GB 850 EVO SSD
>MSI Z370-A Pro ATX motherboard
>Intel coffee lake i5-8400 core
>Asus GeForce GTX 1060 DUAL OC graphics card

The problem is that whenever I try to play anything graphic intensive (even Red Orchestra 2) my graphics card suddenly goes into overdrive, the screen goes black and I have to reboot my whole computer to fix it. This happens every time

Do you guys have any idea what might be causing this? GeForce 1060 should be able to handle any of my games just fine but even civilization V crashes it after 30 minutes or so

>> No.64881137

>>64879663
I paid that for the same gpu in October
You got a good deal

>> No.64881396

best external optical drive for copying DVDs to HDD? I just want to store my movies/shows on a drive and put away all the CDs & occasionally use it for PC game loads

>> No.64881399
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>just build my first pc yesterday with parts bought through months
feelsgoodman.jpg
gonna oc later. wish me luck lads

>> No.64881420

>>64881399
well done man, Im still a year of struggling here and I got are peripherals,I could go back to work and get a top end pc in a month but I just dont want to go back lol

>> No.64881435

>>64881399
good luck.

>> No.64881470

>>64879551
>cuck cave edition

>>64879673
>shitty little chink tier display and on screen inputs >= full sized display and keyboard

>>64881399
that ram and primary SSD are kind of chintsy

>> No.64881730

so why no vega GPUs in the OP? i know vega 64 is bad price/performance, but i thought the vega 56 was alright for something inbetween an rx 580/gtx 1060 and a gtx 1080?
too large of a power draw? they run hot or something? what are the issues with these cards i guess im asking.

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reminder to use Win7 by injecting USB3 motherboard drivers into your install iso

>> No.64881774

>>64879834
Presuming it's 1080p, a 1060 6gb will be able to do 120hz, but I'd lower a few game settings to keep fps close to 120. If you can make the jump though, a 1070 would be a better bet.
>3930K brofist

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>>64881420
kudos my man. hope you get it soon
>>64881435
thx, I need those luck for that silicon lottery
>>64881470
ram is 3000 mhz, but haven't oc yet, and for ssd I got it >for free, so not gonna complain

>> No.64881886

>>64879952
If you want to cool with water, check out EK's A240 kit. Serviceable and expandable at the same price as a high end 240 AIO. Only catch is its entirely aluminium, so don't mix with usual off the shelf copper radiators and waterblocks.

>> No.64882018

>>64881818
what are the heaviest applications that you intend to run on this? >>64881399

>> No.64882108

Just purchased link related at the recommendation of someone from this thread. Next would be to get a new motherboard.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883102289
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA3XW35M1223

>> No.64882132

>>64880556
just ordered the 1050 Ti, hope this shit works

>> No.64882200

>>64882108
may wanna get new ram as well possibly. maybe im blind but i cant see the ram model or its speed on that page. might be slow ram or only 1 stick, meaning no dual channel. ryzen chips love fast ram.

>> No.64882247

>>64880556
>>64882132
really have no idea about the answer to your question, but every gtx 1050ti im finding on newegg recommends a 300w psu. hope it works though, good luck.

>> No.64882276

>>64882132
which 1050ti did you get?

>>64882108
>buying a prebuilt with intentions to swap the board...
what are you even trying here?

>> No.64882288

>>64882247
yeah I've seen it too, but I've read a lot about the low profile versions getting their power direct from the PCIe at 75W max
and cheers

>>64882276
MSI low profile 4GB

>> No.64882289

>>64882276
To get its specs up over time.

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>>64882018
Firefox with 4chan X, for shitposting.

>> No.64882350

>>64879551
>>G4560
Reminder to not get memed by intel kike shill to buy a dual core cpu in current year

>> No.64882550

>>64882350
for $60 it was a damm good deal though

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tfw you can’t even buy a budget gpu at a budget price

>> No.64882784

>>64881730
any opinions on this?

>> No.64882819

>>64882108
Get a B350 PC Mate/Tomahawk or a B350-F Rog Strix, a MX300 SSD and if you haven't ordered the monitor get this one
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bmbp99/aoc-monitor-i2267fw
>>64882200 This too, use what comes with it until you can afford this
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jpH48d/gskill-memory-f43200c14d16gvk

>> No.64882861

>>64882819
>This too, use what comes with it until you can afford this
im not the buyer, i was just tellin him that his ram might be crap

>> No.64882905

>>64880961
A financial advisor. If you're getting any sort of substantial tax refund, you're not claiming enough allowances. Or perhaps you enjoy giving the government an interest-free loan.

>> No.64882919

>>64879551
RIP

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>>64879551
there's days i wonder if that guy is still alive. it sounds so childish but thank god we have video games and tech, life is so brutal and it's nice that at least every guy out there can always say "well at least i have this". does anyone know what happened to this guy?

>> No.64883230

>>64882905
>Or perhaps you enjoy giving the government an interest-free loan.
i signed my life away to them for the next 3 years already, so its not like i can say no.

>> No.64883322

>>64882200
I plan on getting more RAM as well, depending on the motherboard, which is why I might need to swap it out.
>>64882819
I'll consider this one as well since my Dell monitor won't stop shutting itself off randomly and restarting itself.

>> No.64883330

Have a Radeon R9 270.

Should I even upgrade. The pricing is bullshit for anything I'd upgrade into though.

>> No.64883347

I just pulled the trigger on this (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YvbXLJ). Since this will be my first build, what sort of problems should I expect to run into?

>> No.64883390
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Okay, I've made some adjustments to the home theater/CAD/simulation build I was planning. Aside from the over the top case (it's going on top of the entertainment center, it had better look good), and the tiny ssd (I have a 30 tb external hard drive already), is there anything else I probably shouldn't be doing? I picked the graphics card because Solidworks can take advantage of it but a. I'm probably not going to use that if I can't avoid paying for it and b. the card is kinda expensive.

I am kinda concerned about using non-ECC RAM, but I don't know if using DDR4-2400 is going to be noticeably worse than DDR4-3200, especially if I do decide to play games on this thing.

>> No.64883410

>>64883347
>ASRock - A320M
>Ass rocks
>A320
first of all mobo needs a bios flash and second of all you can't even overclock. and micro atx is shit but thats just me.

>> No.64883501

>>64883390
Consider dropping the case for a cheaper one and maybe the powersupply for a gold one (running at full load for a whole month you are gonna save 5 bucks at best, assuming 0,2 $ /KWh).
Then you can get the 1950x instead.

>> No.64883513

>>64883347
>404
Did anon renege on his build?

>> No.64883557

>>64883513
No, the link should still work
>>64883410
According to Newegg, the version bundled with the 2200g is supposed to come with the proper bios update preinstalled, which is why I chose that one. Are there any better micro ATX alternatives?

>> No.64883559

>>64883390
>it's going on top of the entertainment center, it had better look good
Just remember it ain't a light case to lift on top a media cebtre, and it's physically gargantuan too. Otherwise the new C700P is a stunning enclosure.

>> No.64883589
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>>64883513
Here's a screenshot in case the link still doesn't work for you.

>> No.64883590

>>64883557
>the link should still work
Must just be my browser or region. I'm with the other anon though, I'd go with a B350 or X370 board.

>> No.64883598

Need a moderately heavy server in a low ventilation cabinet.
Used Xeon E3-1240L v6, Ryzen 5 2400G undervolted to ~0.9V, or wait for Ryzen 5 2400GE?

>> No.64883629
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Hey guys, Im new to pc building and Im planning to build a budget gaming rig.

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: MSI - B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($101.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($131.31 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Fractal Design - Define Mini C with Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $665.26

I mainly plan on using this build to play Dota 2. I do have a bit of concerns though, as far as I can tell, Dota 2 is a much more CPU dependent game. I'm wondering if the CPU power of the Ryzen 5 2400G will be able to offer steady and smooth FPS during heated moments in game. I have no doubt that the integrated graphics will make everything look pretty.

I'm mainly looking for 720p, 60 FPS, and at least medium to high settings on Dota 2.

Any one have any thoughts or criticisms about my build?

>> No.64883633

>>64883589
Ah, cheers. Can't complain for the price. You'd get comparable performance to a current lower end gay-men console with the benefits of a PC. Still, B350 if you could stretch and allow a bit of overclocking headway, especially on the integrated graphics side of things.

>> No.64883647

>>64880556
If the PSU is 240W, that's the total amount of power you have to play with. Still I don't think you have to be worried.

>>64880801
28" is a good size, but I wouldn't drop money on a 4K monitor right now. Low refresh and no HDR10 yet

>>64880961
Post speccy

>>64881080
Check for hardware errors. Also are you sure it's your graphics card, or is it the CPU fan? Monitor temperatures, and get on the phone with the card's manufacturer

>>64881750
Reminder 7 is a botnet now too

>>64881730
None in stock, basically never were

>>64883330
No

>>64883347
Needs B350 mobo or your fast RAM is worthless

>>64883629
You can easily check benchmarks for DotA2. It'll run fine. If you figure out whether you're limited by the CPU or GPU you can just OC that one for a boost.

I'd get an SSD

>> No.64883665

>>64883647

I dont have a GPU in this build, Im going to be using the Ryzen 5 2400G with integrated Vega graphics.

But I suppose you're right that I can just OC if needed. I imagine I'd need to get an after market cooler if thats the case though.

>> No.64883672

>>64883647
>Needs B350 mobo or your fast RAM is worthless
Actually I take that back. It'll still run at 2933, but you won't be able to OC the graphics component of the APU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpECFc4nlmI

>> No.64883680

Where do you guys see gpu prices landing once the new gpus come out?

>> No.64883687

>>64883665
Yeah, I know. With the stock cooler, you'll have to decide whether you want to OC the CPU or GPU portion of the APU. It's good enough to OC one, but not both. YOu can use hardware monitoring to decide which is bottlenecking DotA2

>> No.64883698

>>64883687

Oh wow, I actually didnt know that. Sounds pretty great then. Im betting it'll be the CPU portion, but thanks for telling me.

>> No.64883784

>>64883680
I honestly doubt it'll make a difference. Either crypto needs to crash to unsustainable levels sparking hardware sell offs, or it needs to stabilise to entice manufacturers to invest in increasing production.
Nvidia has stated a couple weeks ago they are not committing to increasing supply for a markets that's potentially so volatile.

>> No.64883812

Long time /k/-fag here. Was looking to build a PC to run games like Arma III and a few flight sims. I found an old PC at my dad's place. It posted and runs fine, so I put a copy of Windows on it. It's running an i7-3770 and 8GB of RAM. After some googling, it seems the best graphics cards for the money is the GTX1050. My question is, would this be a good purchase? I only want average settings, 1080p, and atleast 30 FPS stable. Also, what's the difference between the "base" model and Ti?

>> No.64883901

>>64883812
That's a decent processor, should be good for running a reasonably CPU intensive game.
A GTX 1050 should do the job on reasonably high settings if not ultra, so chuck in that GPU and you should be good to go.
I'd also look at getting a small SSD and upgrading to 16gb of RAM if you can afford it (sell off your current 8GB), DDR3 is a little more reasonably priced than DDR4 at least.

>> No.64883925

>>64883812
A 1050 Ti will bottleneck most 65W TDP Ryzens at stock, so your 3770 should be okay there, since it's slightly better than Ryzen and the 1050 is weaker.

>> No.64883950

>>64881470
>>shitty little chink tier display and on screen inputs >= full sized display and keyboard
You missed the point of the image then, not my problem.
Where's the full sized display and keyboard in the $70 build?

>> No.64884008

>>64879551
Is that a litter box in the upper left hand corner? Have herbivores really gotten that bad?

>> No.64884012

I'm going to be doing work that involves me moving around the US a lot for the next few years so I'm looking to build a workstation that is beefy but also somewhat mobile enough for me to take on an airplane as check-in luggage while also being pretty easy to setup and pack up again.

Was thinking of doing an ITX rig with an i9(fan noise is not an issue) or just getting one of those guitar center rackmounts and building a bigger more beefier ATX case in it so all I gotta do to deploy my workstation is slide the box over to a desk and plug it in(power, ethernet, probably-wireless keyboard and mouse, and monitor, no sound but available if needed).

I figure with the rackmount I could stuff a lot more in for the size(drives, gpus, UPS, etc).

anyone else have experience with this? How is easy getting a guitar center case like pic related through an airport for check-in luggage. I figure actual bands and musicians probably fly all around the world with these things anyways so they are probably optimized for travel already. Any insight?

>> No.64884045
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64884045

>>64884012
>pic related

shit like this
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Musicians-Gear/Rack-Flight-Case.gc

>> No.64884059

>>64879551
guys what's your opinion about using Raven Ridge APU without cumbersome graphic cards? isn't it best choice for extra budget or tiny PC?

>> No.64884095
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64884095

how much will the ryzen 2XXX cost

>> No.64884181

>>64883812
>My question is, would this be a good purchase?
Yes. The 1050Ti is way overpriced right now. When new cards come out you can upgrade if need be

>what's the difference between the "base" model and Ti?
2GB more VRAM and more CUs (power)

>>64883925
Absolute false, dumbass

>> No.64884193

>>64884059
Pretty much, although the G4560 is just as good for Netflix and browsing the net

>>64884095
About the same as the previous gen, discounted $20 or so

>> No.64884227

>>64884193
sooo <$400?

>> No.64884280

>>64880556
if its powered by the pci-e slot it wont use more than 75 watts.

So you're good, the 300w recommendation is only for full slot 1050ti's.

>> No.64884398

How many GB is enough for Tekken and other current games right now?

How long will a 4 GB GPU last me ?

>> No.64884501

I got a optiplex 790 with i7 2600. Threw in 1050ti. What am I in for?

>> No.64884546

>>64884501
Ryzen 5 2400G-beating performance

>> No.64884555

>>64884546
Cool. Even with outdated processor?

>> No.64884590

so. I got banned from the PCPartpicker Discord for reciting lyrics to "Kidnap The Sandy Claws"

>> No.64884593

>>64884555
yes, 2600 is still a good cpu if you have one

>> No.64884654

>>64884398

If you're looking for a good gaming computer, you'd probably want 16 GB. 4 GB cards today are fine.

You could start with 8 and upgrade later if you want. Tekken 7 should run fine on that.

FYI Tekken7 was originally designed to run on the Namco System ES3, which is pretty old hardware.

>> No.64884704

>>64884654
I meant GPU memory, not RAM.

Sorry for the lack of clarity.

>> No.64884713

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/#problems

Should I worry about the Raven ridge incompatibility?

>> No.64884724

>>64884704

If you don't have the money, 4 GB is fine.

>> No.64884734

is a 6600k enough to host a plex server running 720p on my tv? I feel like i'm wasting power having my gpu connected when I don't game often anymore.

>> No.64884759

>>64884555
It's no more outdated than Ryzen was at launch. Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge is on par with (sometimes beating) Ryzen in most applications.

>> No.64884768

should i go for the 1700 or wait till new ones in april?

>> No.64884815

>>64883227
>there's days i wonder if that guy is still alive.
Was there a story?

>> No.64884828

>>64884759
>Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge is on par with (sometimes beating) Ryzen in most applications.
The absolute state of POOzen

>> No.64884830

>>64884193
right but what if Buyers(me) already own spare AM4 socket mobo?

>> No.64884856

>>64884815

Nope, it was some guy that made a pic on /v/ in, like, 2006.

People invest way too much assumption into it, literally all anybody knows about him is that he wanted to make a pic for 4chan and has access to a basement. The rest of it is clearly put together for show.

>> No.64884857

>>64884828
It took 7 years for AMD to get to where Intel was 7 years ago

>> No.64884905

>>64884856
Yeah, the framed Iwata photo is telling.

>> No.64884928

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pvCZLJ

and advice is appreciated. Dont consider the price of the gpu, without it its about $1003. Already have win10 enterprise

>> No.64884938

>>64884857
Intel was making 8C/16T CPUs for $300 7 years ago?

>> No.64884968

I'm having zero issue with my foxconn bracket. Might have been a lucky batch or I'm just not a normie brainlet.

>> No.64885068
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64885068

Newb here, working on my first build. Want to use it for gaming, engineering programs (going to school for env eng), VM work, possibly some video/photo editing, also planning a small home studio in the future (recording guitar, keyboard, etc..)

Pic related is what I have so far. A few things I'm curious about:
1. Looking at coolers I'm trying to decide between the noctua nh-u12s or the dark rock 3. I hate the look of the noctua and with this case I will have a glass side so want it to look decent but I heard someone in this thread talking about difficulties installing the dark rock 3? Can anyone elaborate? Any other good options?
2. What kind of RAM should I be looking for? I am going to start with 8gb but will upgrade to 16gb as soon as I can afford to. Should I get 3200 or is 3000 ok? The mobo says it supports up to 2666 without OC but I don't know anything about OC'ing.
3. What kind of monitor would be good for this build? I've been eyeing the XF270HU but I'm not too familiar as I've always used a laptop...
4. My budget was around $1200-1300 USD and with GPU prices this is over by a few hundred, thinking about building without the 1070 and just using integrated graphics until prices drop, is it worth waiting?

>> No.64885086

>>64880961
Ethereum

>> No.64885110

>>64885068
>Any other good options?
Yes, stop being a gaymer RGB faggot and get the Noctua.

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64885136

>>64884045
>>64884012

plz respond

>> No.64885148

>>64885068

Prices prolly won't drop until bitcoin miners move on.

What game are you playing which makes you want a 1070 but at the same time runs just fine on integrated "until upgraded"? You may as well just buy in your price range.

Also you should probably buy 2x4 GB of memory, not 1x8, because then you get the advantage of dual channel. Only get 1x8 if you are planning on upgrading to 32 GB in the future.

>> No.64885158

>>64885068

The Dark Rock is fantastic, I'm totally sold on their stuff now. I have a Dark Rock Pro 3 in two of my builds right now and am putting a Dark Rock TF in my new Ncase build that I'm starting tomorrow. Noctua's stuff is great too though, you can't go wrong with any of these options.

>>64885110

There are no RGBs on Be Quiet's coolers.

>> No.64885190
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64885190

>1440p
>165hz OC
>G-Sync
>@ $400
So what's wrong with it?

>> No.64885200

>>64885190

Folks here will say
>TN
But it's a great panel. I love mine.

>> No.64885215

>>64885110
Ok? Didn't say anything about RGB, it's just an ugly cooler. Pretty much black and grey everything and then a giant piece of brown/tan shit in the middle...

>>64885148
I have a gaymer laptop right now so I would probably just play on it if it means I can save ~$200 with patience, unless it's going to be more than 6ish months or something. Thanks for the tip about dual channel. Would 16gb be enough for my use case?

>>64885158
Some anon here said something about the Dark Rock 3 being difficult to install? Did you have issues installing your coolers?

>> No.64885227

Anything I should change?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M2mNGG

I don't have a case listed because I have one already. Is the i5-8400 still a good processor even if it's only 2.8GHz? My budget is ~$1400 USD.

I'm not using Ryzen since I've only had bad experiences with AMD shit in the past.

>> No.64885287

>>64885215
Why the fuck do you care what it looks like you dumb teen ?

>> No.64885292

>>64885227
I bet meltdown was a great experience to have on Intel

>> No.64885321

>>64885215
if you really care about the look get the NH-D15 then get 1-2 of their colored fans
Use the ugly ones as 140mm fans in the front where people wont see them

>> No.64885337

>>64885227
>I'm superstitious and only had bad experiences on this brand so I won't even consider it regardless of reviews or user experiences they're probably all lying to trick me into buying bad components!

Absolute state of 4chan g 2018

>> No.64885384

>Waiting for Amazon to ship my Processor and Motherboard so I can finish budgeting after unexpected expense
>Amazon calls me immediately after I place the order
>Don't get to it in time
>They leave a voice mail
>It's just complete silence
fucking what
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>> No.64885387

>>64885227
ok, unlike the other unhelpful fags that do nothing but complain

Do you need an optical drive?
Dont get a single fan 1060, dual fan tends to run more smoothl.
I have no qualms with yourr psu, semi or full dont rlly matter imhp, as long as you can set it up properly.
Are you going to buy windows 10? I have an enterprise copy (activated that I could give)

>> No.64885449

>>64885287
Probably older than you and you probably don't care about aesthetics because you're a fat piece of shit. kys

>> No.64885455

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/LbHqsZ
>tfw Canada is expensive as shit
I have zero experience please give me any advice

>> No.64885471

>>64885387
>Helping literal retards

>> No.64885488

>>64885471
>Helping literal retards
?
At least im being helpful you dumbass. Come back when you say something productive and not some soy "hur dur retard buy x" comment either

>> No.64885533

>>64885455
I feel like old r3's are kinda useless at the moment as long as the apus exist. So I would recommend getting that and save money on a starter build.

>> No.64885543

>>64885533
APUs? Sorry, I'm a brainlet so I've never heard of that before

>> No.64885555

>>64885227

I know you put a limit of $1400 on there, but it'd be real nice to be able to trim something to get an 8600k, but if you're really committed to just buying windows, then yeah that's pretty good.

Only other way to get a better CPU would be to cut the ram in half and buy the other half down the line when it's cheaper.

>> No.64885573
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64885573

Do they even make RX 580s anymore or non reference GTX 1080s?
I have not seen one in stock in like 2 months

>> No.64885579

>>64885543
apus: cpus with on board graphics. The r3 2200g/r5 2400g they came out this mont. Also ryzens, 2200g is really the best deal, r5 does basically same shit except more expensive.
>>64885555
This guy is onto something, yes 8600k would be ideal, but 8400 is also fine

>> No.64885610
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64885610

>tfw I thought these prices were overpriced to fuck back in june of 2017

>> No.64885615
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64885615

Is this a good deal?

>> No.64885662

>>64885615
yea i would say its breddy gud

>> No.64885671

>get 144hz monitor
>suddenly phone acreen looks shit while scrolling

it just never ends does it?

>> No.64885672

>>64885543

AMD's APUs have a GPU in them, it's basically integrated graphics, but with some actual performance.

Having a 1060 is going to be better performance. A Ryzen 5 2400G would be about comparable to the setup you posted except replacing the 1060 with a 1030.

As for the setup you put together, why does it have a sound card? You could remove that for a better PSU and a Ryzen 5 1600.

>> No.64885676
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64885676

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MhpQ7W
Rate my meme build.
Tell me what gpu i should get, i try to keep these under 2000 sgd
Uses include gaymen, browsing 4chan and light programming with c++

>> No.64885686

>>64885676
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MhpQ7W
>RGB memory
>That cooler

What is it with you people and unable to choose coolers that make sense for your builds?

>> No.64885691

>>64879551
Well, I'm definitely going to be applying myself this week after seeing this image. Don't want that to be anywhere near my quality of life.

>> No.64885694

>>64885672
>why does it have a soundcard
Because I'm an audiophile but also a poorfag
I might consider the better PSU
>A Ryzen 5 2400G would be about comparable to the setup you posted except replacing the 1060 with a 1030
What do you mean by that?

>> No.64885695
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64885695

Are buying WD Red's for "improved reliability" memes?

>> No.64885705

>>64885694
>What do you mean by that?
4chan technology board 2018

>> No.64885712

>>64885686
Probably because im retarded. Advise plox????
:3

>> No.64885715

>>64885712
You need a more capable cooler and please drop the RGB RAM you're paying a premium for useless lights.

>> No.64885719

>>64885671
which one did you get

>> No.64885728

>>64885694

It looked like the guy >>64885579 was saying to just get a 2400G and call it a day as an entry level computer. It wouldn't be as good as what you posted.

>> No.64885735

>>64885715
Then should i get a dark rock 3?
But i love those shiny led lights, im a sucker for them.
But then again being on a budget is contrary to my likes... Guess i should look for other ram

>> No.64885745

>>64885728
I was saying get a 2200g if you want cheap performance

>> No.64885749
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64885749

>>64885735
Dark Rock 3 is a good cooler, i approve of that *brofist*. As for lights, eh whatever man it's your PC.

>> No.64885757

>>64885695
Yes. If you want reliability, go RAID 1. Just get two of whatever drive and then RAID1 them, and there's your data reliability.
Barring earthquake, chances are you'll never have them both fail within the same week.

>> No.64885763

if raid isnt a backup method, then what is?

>> No.64885771

>>64885749
What case is that? Looks like an Air 540 but can't be sure

>> No.64885779
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64885779

>>64885763

Cloud storage?

>> No.64885784

>>64885771
who cares

>> No.64885792

>>64885771
My guess is some NZXT shit because of the weird bracket things that cover cable gromets.

>> No.64885808

>>64885779
Hard to backup terabytes of CP to the cloud.

>> No.64885811

>>64885779
how would I keep a drive auto-magically synced up to (((the cloud))) on a linux machine?

how tf do I get 10tb of cloud for cheap

>> No.64885827

>>64885811

You don't, why are you complaining about 10 TB of storage but are unwilling to buy hard drives?

>> No.64885855

when the fuck is 1070 going to drop in price

>> No.64885859

>>64885855

When it's obsolete, because bitcoin mining.

>> No.64885888

>>64880556
yeah this works
I've built a few Optiplex 790 + 1050ti systems and they all work fine

You can get some beefed up 3rd party PSUs but you wont need them unless you're doing some crazy shit with loads of extra parts

>> No.64885985

>>64885719
that one dell one everyone always talks about S2716DGR is the model number

>> No.64885992

>>64883230
You're telling me you don't have a W-4? You're an idiot.

>> No.64886016

>>64885992
not him but curious if i work it out to the point i dont have a tax refund how the hell am i supposed to buy higher priced things you are not suggesting with a straight face that i save money are you?

>> No.64886097
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64886097

I'm trying to reach 4.6Ghz on my i5 6600k on MSI z170 SLI plus. It run prime 95 for 10 minutes without crashing at 82c (remember, it's prime 95) at 1.38v, but I've been having two major problems;
>Vdroop
it have to set it to 1.38v so that it "droops" down to 1.37 (or lower) during prime95 or another stress test. My motherboard only has two settings for LLC, "auto" and "mode 1". Mode1 is elevated LLC, and it's already enabled. I've read online this board has a really shit vrm. It's not terribly hot to the touch, so i don't think it's overheating.
>Core possibly shutting off
hwinfo64 shows Core 0 of my cpu hardly runs or doesn't run at all in prime 95. The package can be 80c but core 0 will read 42c and ~5% or 0. Cinebench scores are pretty consistent with other 6600k's at 4.6ghz so Im not sure if this is a sensor fluke, or if Prime does this. I have not tested this in games or video encode yet.
What do /g/ents? I figure this is a better place to ask than /sqt/ because there's bound to be at least a few overclocking neckbeards here.

>> No.64886121

>>64886097
a 100mV vdroop is nothing, just leave it. As for you VRM heatsinks feeling cool, this can mean 2 things. 1) your vrms are cool 2) your heatsinks aren't making contact and thus feel cool

Does task manager show all cores maxed when running prime? Do CPUz, firestrike physics score or whatever make sense for your clocks and CPU? You should be able to notice quickly if an entire core (25% of your fucking cores dude) has stopped working

>> No.64886130

>>64886121
10mV* not 100mV

>> No.64886136

>CDN$ 1,398.00
Why didn't I buy around Christmas
WHY DIDNT I BUY AROUND CHRISTMAS

>> No.64886142

Are 3tb still unreliable and are ment to be avoided?

>> No.64886161

>>64886016
Fuck no, that's what credit and debt is for.

>> No.64886165

>>64885455
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/wkMMpG
Based on the advice from this thread and people I know personally, I've changed up my build a bit

>> No.64886168

>my 1150 board dies and the only one I can get that has more than 4 sata ports is 2 weeks away in the US.
>16gb of ddr4 costs the same as a ryzen 1600

God has forsaken me, fuck crypto miners.

>> No.64886172

>>64886121
The heatsinks are pretty warm, just not scalding hot. I'd tell you the temps but the board doesn't have a sensor for it (I think) and I don't have a thermal camera. I can check the heatsink contact though. The only reason I'm not running a fan over it atm is because the only spare one I have is loud and high pitched.
For the core disabling issue, I'll try my oc settings again and attempt firestrike physics, Heaven, and Realbench. I guess cinebench isn't long enough to reproduce the issue.
>>64886161
>>64886016
Poverty is a mental illness.

>> No.64886178

>>64885985
Did you get it on eBay, and did you have any dead pixels?

Also, does your brightness every very in a kind of flickering fashion?

I just got the same monitor, and will be sending it back for a replacement.

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>>64886172
>Poverty is a mental illness.
Sure, but not getting memes is even worse. My credit score is 798.

>> No.64886202
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64886202

Is it a bad idea to get a refurbished monitor like pic related?

>> No.64886213

>>64886202
>Are high refresh rate monitors with meme panels a bad idea

Yes.

>> No.64886219

have an i5 4460 with a dying gtx750, is upgrading to a ryzen 2400g worth it or just buy gtx1050? as a pc pleb the prices are insane these days.

>> No.64886230

>>64886219
Going to a 2400g would mean you're on a relevant platform.

>> No.64886238

When do you think Nvidia next gen Volta based gpus will be available? I had finished designing my build but realized maybe I should wait if they come out within a couple months

>> No.64886262

>>64886213
Not what I was asking but thanks. What would you recommend for 1440p on a 1070 build?

>> No.64886266

>>64886262
Depends on the games you play.

>> No.64886279

>>64886219
Find a used graphics card anon. Gtx 770, gtx 960, R9 380, HD 7950 or 7970, that kinda thing. There's a 2gb gtx 960 on my local Craigslist for "$120 OBO" (translation, i'm going to make you haggle for $100). There are deals out there if you can hunt for them.
>>64886230
at least they can still upgrade to haswell i7's.

>> No.64886301

>>64886230

true, but then ill need a new mobo and expensive ram whch adds to the cost.

>> No.64886305

>>64884759
>Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge is on par with (sometimes beating) Ryzen in most applications.
Only when heavily overclocked.

>> No.64886308

>>64886279
>hasbeen CPUs

>> No.64886322

I'm debating between a R5 1600 or a i5-8400 right now. I was leaning towards the 1600, but stories of the RAM issues is making me change my mind. Even kits straight from the QVL have user reports of instability/incompatibility.

>> No.64886326

>>64886322
Launch tier issues.

>> No.64886331

This might be a stupid question, but since I'd rather not get Botnet 10, are there any games that only run on Win10 and not Win7?

>> No.64886334

>>64886322
RAM problems are no more and hasn't been a problem for months. The current bioses have fixed pretty much everything.

>> No.64886339

>>64885676
Get a nuctua cooler and drop that rgb RAM. You can check nuctua site if u aren't sure about the cooler being cabable to cool your cpu.

>> No.64886364

>>64886326
>>64886334
Are you sure? I see a lot of people having issues getting DDR4-3200 to work properly. Most are forced to stick with 2933 Mhz despite the advertised speeds of 3200

>> No.64886375

>>64886364
And how old are these posts/threads you see?

>> No.64886426

>>64886375
There's one guy back in December 2017 who had issues due to his RAM being Hynix rather than B-Die, despite it being on the QVL list.

And from what I know, you can't really tell which chip is being used unless you have it in person. I could be COMPLETELY misinformed though.

>> No.64886459

>>64886426
>One guy using notoriously uncooperative RAM 2 months ago had an issue

Just buy some B-die and call it a day if you're going ryzen. Quit being stuck on petty shit just because it's AMD.

>> No.64886465 [DELETED] 

The source is inside the file m8, use your brain

>> No.64886476

>>64886459
How the fuck would you know you're getting a b-die without falling to some bullshit marketing when the only way to know is when it's already in your hand? Even previously known b-die modules now have different version that may be a hynix.

>> No.64886488

>>64886476
There are LISTS telling you exactly which kits are b-die and which are not. Hell if you're still unsure after looking at said lists just ask on here or literally any overclocking forum.

And watch your mouth you little teen cretin.

>> No.64886495

which is best for overclocking 1600 or 1600x

>> No.64886502

>>64886488
Not that rude boy right above you, but the issue with the b-die lists are that some of those kits are now Hynix. Not to mention, if your motherboard's QVL does not mention a b-die kit, you're still taking a shot in the dark

>> No.64886513

>>64886502
As is with any platform. Not just X370.

>> No.64886521

>>64886495
Both are equally good

>> No.64886535

>>64886513
Doesn't Z370 just work regardless of die?

>> No.64886561

>>64886535
If it's not on the QVL you will run into the same shit as with x370. And the CPU's IMC might be really weak (just like ryzen in some cases) because of bad luck and you might not even go over 2666. That's how it is with hardware.

>> No.64886589

>>64886535
>>64886561
The official memory speed supported by intel is DDR4-2666 (which happens to be the official supported speed of ryzen 5 too). Sure, motherboards might support up to 4200 but if the CPUs can't do it because bad silicon lottery on the IMC then you're SOL. It is NOT an AMD thing and it is NOT an Intel thing, this is the case with all platforms.

>> No.64886598

MOTHERBOARD STANDOFFS & IO SHIELD
WHAT KIND OF MONSTER MADE THESE
I'VE BEEN AT IT FOR ALMOST AN HOUR AND I CAN'T GET THE MOTHERBOARD TO LINE UP WITH THE STANDOFFS PROPERLY
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.64886601

>>64886598
>4chan technology board 2018

>> No.64886606

>>64886598
Buy one with built-in IO shield next time you handlet

>> No.64886625

>>64886172
Reporting back. Realbench, Heaven, Firestrike, Cinebench, all scoring and behaving normally. Prime95 however, still refuses to use core 0, confirmed in task manager. Should I just chalk this up as a non-issue? Like, if I can finish all those tasks, I can probably call it a stable overclock right?
The vdroop is a little worse than I said above, 1.38v down to 1.3645ish, which is annoying because I wanted to shoot for 4.7ghz at 1.375, meaning I'd have to set it at an uncomfortable 1.39v for it to droop down to my target Vcore.
>>64886598
If you've installed the IO shield properly, shove the IO ports into their cutouts and use that to line it up with the standoffs. If you have to, get a second person to install a screw in one of the standoffs while you hold the board. I've never had to do this, because I don't have chimp hands, but it might work for you.

>> No.64886639

>>64886625
The IO shield seems to be in properly and the motherboard lines up with it just fine
The standoffs on the far left line up fine but the ones on the far right are off by almost half a cm
I can't even see half of them

>> No.64886648

>>64886625
Just use your computer as intended and if you get errors or crashes then adjust. Only thing i ever stress test is memory using memtest.

>> No.64886657

>>64886639
Post pic

>> No.64886660

>>64886639
Are you trying to fit a CEB board in a case intended for E-ATX

>> No.64886674

I want to have 128GB of RAM and many cores. What cpu should I buy? I was thinking about Threadripper 1900X.

>> No.64886687

>>64886674
i7 8700k

>> No.64886700

>>64879551
Maybe it's /sqt/
But why should i buy an ssd with m2. Instead of sata? The system boots in 1s even with sata 3 connected ssd.

>> No.64886708

>>64886674
Why 1900x and not 1920x or 1950x?

>>64886687
Lol ramlet

>> No.64886725

>>64886660
No, mico-ATX in node 804
>>64886657
I managed to get 5 of them in after almost dislocating my finger so I'm just going to leave it at that

>> No.64886727

>>64886708
Because u know... money

>> No.64886742

>>64886727
I should think another couple hundred isn't a big concern if you're spending that much money on RAM already.

>> No.64886751

>>64886674
Be VERY careful about 128GB kits because there aren't a lot of QVLed 128GB RAMs out there and non-QVLed ones are almost guaranteed to only get 4 or 6 sticks recognized. The best one is F4-2933C14Q2-128GFX I believe

>> No.64886758

>>64883950
people who want computers dont want to use the piddly interface on a laggy chink phone so if they bought the chink phone they would need to connect proper input devices anyways.

>> No.64886784

>>64886674
Here you go, anon.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113471

>> No.64886850

>>64886561
>>64886589
So how does this look to you guys? Should I be GUARANTEED at this point in time (with latest BIOS) to get 3000 Mhz? Or will it be 2933 Mhz

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qPGgcc

(already have a cryorig H7, hence the 1600x)

>> No.64886890

>>64886850
First off, that kit is likely not B-die, it's a dice roll. Why don't you get a g.skill kit which are always b-die? Such as the F4-3200C15D-16GVK.

> Should I be GUARANTEED at this point in time (with latest BIOS) to get 3000 Mhz?

No. Did you not read what i said? The IMC is only made to support 2666 officially, anything beyond that is luck of the draw. BUT, it is still very likely that you can do 2933-3466 if you buy a good kit. And that has to be one of the last kits i'd go for on Ryzen.

>> No.64886891
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64886891

Was clearing out some old boxes of random computer shit and I dug up my old Zotac ND01 (I bought it when I was young and stupid) that I stopped using because the AC adapter vanished after a move.

The unit says it needs a 19v 3.42a adapter but I cant seem to locate anything OEM. What can I use instead?

>> No.64886897

>>64886890
>And that has to be one of the last kits i'd go for on Ryzen.

That corsair kit is one of the last id get that is

>> No.64886973

Want to sell my current PC.
>240GB SSD
>GTX 970
>AMD FX-8350 with low end mobo
>8GB RAM
>case and decent Tt PSU included
what price should i expect people to pay for this? i was thinking 500€

>> No.64887006

>>64886890
The reason I don't just go off the b-die list is because last time I had
>ASRock B350 Pro4
>CMD16GX4M2B3000C15 (RAM)
And that shit was unstable as fuck. Constant BSOD. That RAM was unfortunately not on the QVL.

I don't doubt what you're saying, I'm just extremely cautious of veering off the QVL now because of that. I will gladly take a lower clock if it means having something that works right out the box with minimal tinkering and luck. 2933/3000 is fine with me

>> No.64887019

>>64887006
>Corsair kits
You never lern do you. Buy proper RAM.

>> No.64887042

>>64887019
Should I just go off of this list instead?

http://c-8oqtgrjgwu46x24yyyx2ecofx2eeqo.g00.tomshardware.com/g00/3_c-8yyy.vqoujctfyctg.eqo_/c-8OQTGRJGWU46x24jvvrux3ax2fx2fyyy.cof.eqox2fuauvgox2fhkngux2f4239-28x2fco6-oqvjgtdqctf-ogoqta-uwrrqtv-nkuv-gp_2.rfh_$/$/$/$/$?i10c.ua=1

>> No.64887050

>>64887042
Buy the fucking F4-3200C15D-16GVK kit and be done with it.

>> No.64887059
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>>64886165
what are you trying to do? entry level gaming? This is a good build. But I got a 1060 3gb for $300 on xmas. I think you should do the same.
70% difference in power for a difference in say $50 is a very big difference bro.
I recommend forking it out so you atleast know your gpu will last you longer.

>> No.64887069

>>64886202
that pricing is criminal. If you wish to hand your wallet off to criminals be my guest

>> No.64887072

>>64887042
>>64887050
Or the F4-3600C16D-16GVK kit, which is a 3600 c16kit, and i use it personally. My CPU can't push 3600 for daily use but benchmarks and shit it does it just fine. I run 3333 cl14 on it for daily use.

>> No.64887154

>>64886742
Who said that I'm gonna buy all of that RAM at once? :-)

>> No.64887166

>>64886751
What about few kits each 32 GB?

>> No.64887194

>>64887166
That's an even worse idea.

>> No.64887319

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-27-inch-Monitor-FreeSync-ZeroFrame/dp/B078PP3V1J/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1519642526&sr=8-10&keywords=27+inch+144hz+monitor

Is this shit?

>> No.64887351

>>64887194
But why?

>> No.64887359

>>64887319
>high refresh rate
>anything but TN

come on

>> No.64887377

>>64887359
Explain.

>> No.64887388

what is a good EU price for a 1070? Worth to wait till nvidia releases the new cards?

>> No.64887393

>>64887377
No, look it up or make a bad purchase.

>> No.64887403

>>64887393
Very helpful, this might not be the thread for you buddy.

>> No.64887410
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>>64887388
>2018
>Buying a gpu
Just wait for the bubble to pop. Save some cash, and wait.

>> No.64887413

>>64887403
Then who is this thread for?

>> No.64887424

>>64887413
Its for people looking for build advice. If you just want to swing your dick around try somewhere else.

>But you can look it up!
You can look anything up. Why do these threads even exist? Just look it all up elsewhere. Retard.

>> No.64887430

>>64887424
Your question is SQG tier, so get out.

>> No.64887435

>>64887351
High end RAM kits are hand picked to make sure they're compatible. It's why 4-kits are more expensive than two 2-kits

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>>64887430
>Your question is SQG tier
Your arrogance is SQG tier.

>> No.64887477

>>64887410
I'm not even mad because that phone is charged

>> No.64887502

>>64887359
>le ghosting meme
Not noticeable, its a bigger meme than gaming chairs.

>> No.64887512

>>64887502
>t. 35 year old with wife, kids and a job and he plays after work to sit down and unwind :)

>> No.64887531

>>64887512
>t. unwashed neckbeard living his parents basement, stinking of cheese and BO, his only friend his anime figures and body pillow

>> No.64887541

>>64887531
Atleast i know what monitors to get and i don't suck ass at the games i play

>> No.64887550
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>>64887541
>At least I know a lot about X thing while you don't
Wow you're pretty fucking hardcore man, I wish I also knew about X thing.

>> No.64887569

>>64887550
Strange how you would be sarcastic about that considering you unironically came to this thread to specifically ask what monitors are worth buying you dumb retard

>> No.64887590

>>64887569
>He came to the pc build general looking for advice on a part
What a fucking retard.

>> No.64887628

What is a good 1080p 27" monitor for a pc?

>> No.64887644

>>64887628
P I X E L S

>> No.64887699

>>64887628
Ask in SQG.

>> No.64887706

Are 3tb HHD still not recommend buy?

>> No.64887716
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>>64887590
>>64887628
>>64887644
>I'm just playing some rainbow six siege for fun after work to wind down =) i love my new 3440 x 1440p IPS 60hz panel btw it's EPIC and my new 6400 DPI logitech mouse with weights in them! Not to mention my mousepad with a wrist support!

>> No.64887726
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>>64887716
Also my PCMR looks glorious with all this RGB and H100 water cooling!

>> No.64887736
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>i7 8700
>16gb 3000mhz trident z
>aorus gaming 5
>rx 570(had this for a while)
>120gb ssd
>Deepcool baronkaae
Got all the parts this saturday, still waiting on the deepcool rf20 rgb fans. Did i do gud? Upgraded from an fm2+ 5800k

I love the case... Screws are shit though.. I just hope the included aio doesn't leak

>> No.64887759

>>64887716
>>64887726
I'm sorry for your autism anon.

>> No.64887766

>>64887706
>2018
>Harddrives
No.

>> No.64887776

What do we know about nvidia 20xx yet? Im hoping i can get one somewhat cheap (dont care if founders) to watercool it as i bought a 1060 last year to tie me over as i could justify buying a 1080ti for the price (lmaoing now) this late into its lifecycle

>> No.64887783

>>64887736
PCMR tier

>> No.64887789

>>64887736
GAYMUR STORM :D

>> No.64887800

>>64887766
off of course I'm not going to buy a 2tb SSD for backups. spinning rust is still the way to go, but odd numbered drives must be avoided right?

>> No.64887814

>>64887800
Lol why?

>> No.64887816

>>64887783
You know PCMR was started by a /g/ anon right?

>> No.64887824

>>64887776
You know you can get Titan V at MSRP right?

>> No.64887862
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64887862

How does my planned build look? Any need for improvements?

>> No.64887872

>>64886097
>4.6Ghz
>6600k
>1.38v
jesus christ, are you still working on lowering the voltage? Or did you lose the lottery in a big way? That sort of voltage is about what's needed for even a below average x79 or x99 6 core CPU to hit 4.6ghz.

>> No.64887874

>>64887862
Why the M.2 SATA

>> No.64887897

>>64887874
why not?

>> No.64887909

>>64887897
You know M.2 SATA III has 30% of the speed as M.2 PCIe x4 right?

>> No.64887925

>>64887319
144hz is a shit meme.

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>>64887925
>t. 35 year old console gamer

>> No.64887939

>>64887909
Not really...

>> No.64887961

>>64887930
Anything past 100hz is a meme.

>> No.64887988

>>64887716
>>64887726
>>64887930
How much do you weigh?

>> No.64888006

>>64887359
>Although the specs are nice, as are all the bells and whistles, we can’t help but feel the Samsung CFG70 is expensive for a 1080p screen. 144Hz displays can be found cheaper elsewhere, though, with inferior TN panels.
I N F E R I O R P A N E L S

>> No.64888135
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When are the miners going to stop?

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>>64887736
>intel
AHAHAHAHHAH

>> No.64888296

>>64888274
Quality post my friend.

>> No.64888327

>>64888135
check CNN

>> No.64888427
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>>64888296
intel cant play good games

>> No.64888443

>>64888427
>Kingdom Come
>A good benchmark

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>>64884759
do the needful and delet kind sirs

>> No.64888485
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>AMD poozen

>> No.64888583

>>64879551
sup /g/ sorry if this is the wrong thread but does anyone know whats the best place to buy pre-builts
have no pc right now and with the current gpu prices i've been told its a lot cheaper to just buy prebuilt

>> No.64889042

>Have 3200mhz RAM
>Only runs at 2133mhz
>Tried changing it from auto to 3200, 3000 and 2933
>All fail to post and have to revert back to 2133mhz by auto

It's at 1.200v, but I haven't overmemed before so I don't want to touch volts and turn my build into nerve gas ;_; is there some easy way of knowing what should be what for overclocking the RAM?

>> No.64889086

I'm torn between two monitors.
Samsung C27HG70 / C32HG70 (they're the same price right now)
(https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XSQ5QN8/)
VS
Dell S2716DG
(https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0149QBOF0/)

>Both 1440p, 144Hz, 1ms
>VA vs TN
>HDR vs none
>Freesync (I can't use) vs G-Sync (I can)
>Curve vs Non-curved
>$550 vs $480

I've never bought a good monitor before, this is my first Desktop PC build.

>> No.64889114

>>64889042
AMD? Then you're out of luck.

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>>64889042
That's unfortunate

>> No.64889203

Thinking about upgrading from my current potato that's Win10, AMD Athlon II X2 250, 2.75 usable ram, 64 bit
I have roughly $1500 saved up for this, and I'm trying to decide whether to get a prebuilt with 16 gigs, 1tb storage and get it from my local best buy and get the god-tier warranty geek squad offers, or if I should get a custom build
The two prebuilts I'm looking at cost $1,799.99 and $1,149.99, and the only difference seems to be that one has a 240 gb ssd, and the other a 120. Would it make much of a difference if my ssd was 120 if I'm just planning on playing skyrim/darksouls/tf2/rocketleague, etc? I'm not looking to run ultra settings, I just want my game to not look like n64 or run like an obese geriatric
also, general pc recommendations in the $1500/2000 range, if you have any that are better than https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-7700-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-120gb-solid-state-drive-1tb-hard-drive-gray-black/6032004.p?skuId=6032004 which is the cheaper of the two I chose

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>>64888443
>>64888461
>>64888485
>neofag
>good opinions

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>>64889114
damage control

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>>64889042

>4 C H A N T E C H N O L O G Y B O A R D 2 0 1 8

>> No.64889415

>>64879551
Why hate on IOS?

>Just a bit more expensive than air coolers.
>Less noisy
>Not as expensive as full blown custom loops
>Not as hard to install either
>Look cooler than the most good looking air cooler.
>Can Achieve better temps than air coolers

your turn /pcbg/

>> No.64889430

>Post any PC without a single AMD part
>Autistic AMD faggots start claiming brand loyalty bull shit when in reality they are the ones that buy only from their shitty company that cheapens out on their components and will never be as good as the real stuff (Nvidia/Intel)

>> No.64889442

>>64889415
>Just a bit more expensive than air coolers.
yes
>Less noisy
no
>Not as expensive as full blown custom loops
but much worse
>Not as hard to install either
???
>Look cooler than the most good looking air cooler.
lol
>Can Achieve better temps than air coolers
marginal

>> No.64889571
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going for a gaming monitor, around 300 euros. Mostly for CS:GO but other games too. 144hz, 1080fps with minimum response time.
Options are
>Viewsonic xg2402
>Samsung CFG70
>Benq xl2411

I read Viewsonic is recommended here, why not Samsung CFG70 tho? something wrong with quantum dot? if there is, what makes viewsonic better than benq?

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>>64889430
Go away juan

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>>64889571

>I want a gaymin _______!

>> No.64889693

>>64889571
>Benq xl2411
Do it. It's tried and tested and it still stands as one of the better ones for CSGO.

>> No.64889768

NEW THREAD
>>64889763
>>64889763
>>64889763

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>>64889430
it's sour grapes

>> No.64889794

>>64889114
Nah, just enabled DOCP and now it's 2933. I'm almost certain that my benchmarks are lower now than they were yesterday though for some reason.

>>64889398
Fuck's that supposed to mean, faget? 1v1 me irl and I'll dog slap the piss plum out of you.

>> No.64889802

>>64889571
Samsung > Viewsonic > Benq
read reviews on the samsung. it has the best colour quality from all 1080p 144hz monitors but suffers from a lot of QC issues. some people have to return it 3-4 times to get a decent one.

>>64889693
>It's tried and tested and it still stands as one of the better ones for CSGO.
no it's not. fuck off.

>> No.64889828
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This is my planned gaming build. I mainly want to play Rust. I know that it won't be pretty without a graphics card but I do not want to buy an overpriced and old graphics card at the moment. I will add one as soon as good options are available again. I chose the motherboard because it is the only motherboard I know of that does not need to be updated to run Ravenridge CPUs. I chose the RAM cause it is "made for Ryzen" although it is not on the QVL list of the mb.


AMD Ryzen 5 2400G

Scythe Kotetsu Mark II

GA-B350M-DS3H

2x G.Skill Flare X 8GB, DDR4-3200, CL14-14-14-34

Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB

be quiet! Pure Power 10-CM 400W ATX 2.4 (BN276)

IN WIN 301C

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>>64889571
You've tried the rest, now try the BEST.

>> No.64890133

Who here AMD CPU + Nvidia GPU masterrace?

>> No.64890374

>>64889571
The Samsung is the best option
It's listed in the OP as the MSI Optics, which uses the same panel

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