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If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
>Don't buy anything OTHER THAN IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T, X, and W/P Series if you want the Real Business Experience™
>Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).

Recommended IBM models:
X60, X61, T60, T61, 860, Transnote, PC110

Recommended freedom models:
xx00 series, IBM xx0 series
Checkhttps://www.libreboot.orgfor details.

Recommended modern models:
X220 - 12", 768p, cheap and light
T420 - 14", 900p, widely avaiable, socketed CPU, Ivy Bridge installable w/ Coreboot
W520 - 15", 1080p, Desktop Replacement, 32GB RAM on quadcore models, USB 3.0

T440p, T540p, W540 - last ThinkPads to have replacable CPUs, IPS displays avaiable, chiclet

P-series - reminiscent to old build quality, top-of-the-line specs, better than most current mobile workstations, but very expensive

Why ThinkPad?
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop
>Easy to repair (most models), upgrade & maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model, spare parts easy & cheap to obtain
>The best TrackPoint, great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support

Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg

New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com

ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads & running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki

ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/

EPP discount for new ThinkPads:
http://pastebin.com/JVwVGVTW

BIOS logo booru:
http://biosimage.booru.org/

>> No.63504401

[reposting from last thread]

Hey /tpg/, anon from yesterday who was planning on dual booting.
Just installed xubuntu on my X220 alongside Windows and its going good, got compton going to get rid of the shitty screen tearing.

But the speed and trackpoint settings are a little wonky still and there isnt enough for me to working with in settings. Trackpad works fine but scrolling is too fast with it, and theres no scroll speed setting. Furthermore, I maxed on sensitivity and acceleration for the clit but its still too damn slow to use.
Anyone with experience with Ubuntu got any ideas how to fix these issues? I'd like to use the clit mouse but as it stands its pretty unusable.

And I guess any other package/software recs for a fresh xubuntu install.
I'm looking for a program like speccy for Linux, primarily to display system temps.
I know I found a few in the past but not any that were quite as good, so if anyone knows a good alternative let me know

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63504458

I've successfully installed a 1920x1080 IPS display on my T430. Works like a charm with a Chinese eDP/LVDS converter board.

THANK YOU BASED CHAIRMAN XI
THANK YOU BASED CHINA

>> No.63504467

>>63504207
Anyway, I think it would be possible to do with T420 and T430 - Having newer hardware, better design, corebootable, no big MUH BORDARS around screen... Sounds like perfect laptop.

>TFW Thinkpad isn't the same thing as it was before.

Really, newer models are just black-colored apple laptops. If you want to have a great design & generally use something that's a real thinkpad? The last one is T430. With Ivy Bridge. And you can't even upgrade it anymore to something better. The last chance is to wait for some more powerful single-boards and then fit them inside T60/T420...

TL;DR IBM selling off ThinkPads to Lenovo was one of the worst things in the history of computing

>> No.63504481

>>63504458
Are there any performance drops or hardware-related issues like not-fitting parts? I think it could be one of the best upgrades I could do for T430.

>> No.63504509

>>63504458
fuck you beat me to it, congrats tho

will report on my t420 when the goddamned panel shows up. i'll post side to side comparisons with the oem & alienware tns while the bezel is off

>> No.63504531

>>63504458
Nice tablet in the background. It's one of the newer ones, isn't it?

>> No.63504561
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>>63504481
adapter is designed to lay on the under-keyboard ram slot. some chink site has these cradles for sale, but nothing on ebay as of yet

>> No.63504575

>>63504458
where to get m8

>> No.63504581

>>63504531
>It's one of the newer ones, isn't it?

>classic keyboard
>no touchpad
What do you think buddy

>> No.63504630

Is the main difference between W520 and T520 that the W has a dedicated graphics card?

>> No.63504636

>>63504581
The red lines painted on mouse buttons made a fool out of me. Don't tell me you can't mod the touchpad out of new models if you put your mind to it.

>> No.63504665

>>63504630
I think you should rather compare W520 to T420 and then to X220.

>> No.63504729

>>63504481
>Are there any performance drops or hardware-related issues like not-fitting parts?
So far, no performance drops, but I haven't done any testing. That said, I do have a discrete GPU, so it can probably handle the higher resolution without a problem. Maybe I'll test it out with just the integrated GPU enabled and see how it goes.

There were no hardware issues at all. I taped the converter board behind the screen so it wasn't loose in there, and everything fit in nicely. I used a B140HAN01.3 screen.

>>63504509
Good luck man. It shouldn't be difficult to get it set up, assuming it works. Hopefully you can share some results with us soon.

>>63504531
It's an X200 tablet.

>>63504575
Taobao. Unfortunately, there aren't many listings and it's hard to find one compatible for the non-S T420/T430 models. Also, because these are Chinese vendors, there is some additional risk. The first time I ordered, they cancelled it because it was no longer available. Then I couldn't find anybody else selling them for a few weeks. The second seller I bought from shipped it promptly, but I was praying they didn't send me a defective or non-compatible converter board.

>> No.63504759

>>63504575
>>63504729
Also, if you're going to search for it on Taobao, just search for "T420 T430 ips fhd" (no quotes) and you might find some listings. Just make sure they aren't for the T420s/T430s models.

>> No.63504801

>>63504759
Why are the "S" models disliked? small batteries?

>> No.63504821

>>63504801
They're not bad but yeah smaller batteries is one of them
slightly worse cpu (also non socketed)
that's basically it. they aren't bad laptops but people we want to rice out our stuff basically.

>> No.63504870

>>63504801
Sorry, I meant if you have a T420/T430 you should avoid the T420s/T430s converter boards. Some anons said they are not compatible. I can't confirm, so I just avoided those altogether since I have a T430.

But if you have a T420s/T430s, then definitely get the ones listed for those models.

>> No.63504995

I just bought a T550 i5-5200U for the equivalent of 1070 USD. I'm a thinkpad noob, did I dun goofed? Is it at least a good machine?

>> No.63505035

>>63504995
>did I dun goofed?

Yes, unless the rest of the specs are very, very good. You can easily get a used T550 for under $1000, unless you go through Lenovo or some reseller.

>> No.63505094

>>63504870
I don't own any of those (yet) but my workplace has some underwhelming SL410's I was looking at.

I fell for the applebook meme because of the screen but a stinkpad with a nice display would be so much better.

>> No.63505123

>>63505035
It came with a 960 GB SSD, 8 RAM, and I got 8 compatible laying around. It should work for regular desktop use right?

>> No.63505165

Are the t420s eDP boards back in production as well? I want my FHD dammit

>> No.63505177

>>63505123
Is it like this?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LENOVO-20CK-000GUS-ULTRABOOK-T550-I5-5200U-2-20-16GB-1X-500GB-1X-16GB-SSD-35094-/263327970901?_trksid=p2385738.m2548.l4275

>> No.63505180

Anyone use a dock with their thinkpad? I'm thinking of dropping my desktop entirely and just using my T420s with the dock connected to monitor and keyboard.

>> No.63505251

>>63505180
I do all that with an x201 lately
>8-core tower machine collecting dust

>> No.63505292
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>>63505251
>>8-core tower machine collecting dust
I feel bad.

>> No.63505322

>>63505123
>It came with a 960 GB SSD

Well, that would probably do it.

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63505335

Any good way of getting blank keycaps besides sanding it down?

>> No.63505353

>>63505251
I would for the portability as I have an advanced dock with native PCIe but I need my desktop for rendering.

>> No.63505378

>>63505177
Fuck

>>63505322
Besides I need a norwegian keyboard. And it comes from a business, and have only been used for one year.

Here I am deperately trying to justify my purchase, what do you care :|

>> No.63505474

Do modern thinkpads even have those matte gray magnesium rollcages built-in or is that gone too?

>> No.63505503

>>63505378
If you pro-rate it over 4-5 years, it's not that bad. I've bought ebay stuff and it frequently will be dirty/rough/damaged in shipping. If the laptop is nearly pristine I wouldn't get too upset.

>> No.63505630

>>63504458
>>63504561
>>63504729
Is this the one? https://ebay.com/itm/kit/162718125848

>> No.63505650

>>63505503
I would also add that some anons will spend $500-800 on upgrades and ricing. It's a cheap hobby compared to cars :3

>> No.63505704

>>63505630
Yeah, that looks like the same one. On Taobao they're going for around $30-50. But at least on eBay you are likely dealing with someone who can speak some English.

>> No.63506035

>>63505474
I don't think so.

>> No.63506133

Is it normal for a charger to burn when you touch it and for the cable to get hot?

>> No.63506197

Got my T470 today and love it. its my first thinkpad, i regret not getting an ssd drive but i might add it in later when i have the money. Any tips for a newbie?

>> No.63506289
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I read that it's a bad idea to upgrade the T430 CPU to a 45W one if you have the model with the dGPU because heat dissipation issues. Do you guys think if I disable the dGPU in the BIOS I would be able to use a 45W CPU with no problems? I'm worried about motherboard failure more than anything, getting it toasted because of it or something.

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OK be honest, which one of you packed this?

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>>63506662
Even taped the webcam baka... Somehow its still in like new condition.

>> No.63506726

Could I flash the BIOS on my T420 from a Windows on the Go LiveUSB?

>> No.63506812

>>63505335
Pop em off and soak em in some kind of solvent?

>> No.63506826

>>63506704
You gonna replace the keyboard and palmrest?

>> No.63506897
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>>63506826
Haven't decided yet. The key feel is really nice on the x230 and something I haven't heard mentioned, the trackpoint buttons feel night and day better on the new model. Still, gonna miss the layout. Luckily I have both types now to enjoy.

>> No.63506904

>>63506812
Sadly solevant won't work, not without fucking the plastics

>> No.63506952

Does anyone have the schematics for the t430 that includes details on the leds for the indicator lights and thinklight?

I'm thinking of hardware ricing them

>> No.63507103

>>63506952
Looking for this, and the diagram for the T420.
Some led hardware mods were posted a couple threads ago, and I forgot to save them.

>> No.63507144

Are the 2018 thinkpads going to have ryzen APUs?

>> No.63507268

>>63507144
Not in The, X or W series. Atleast, not expected.
E series likely will.

>> No.63507466

Opinions on P51? Please respond. I'm thinking about buying one with the m2200 graphics, 8gigs ram, and 256 SSD.
It's not particulaily powerfull for the price, but it has a 90 WH battery and the trackpad.

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Crucial SSDs any good? I looking to get some for a T400 and T500. I usually order RAM from them.

>> No.63507771

hey /tpg/, i can buy an "ideapad 110" for $175, should i do it?

i already looked at the buying guide and didn't see anything on it.

>> No.63507910

>>63507771

no dude

>> No.63507994

>>63507732
Crucial makes good shit for cheap. Not too performance, but still SSD performance.
>>63507771
Nope. Only ThinkPad from T X and W series are engineered by ex-IBM employees. Ideapad is entirely Lenovo China, and a POS line of machines.

>> No.63508021

I'll be starting grad school next summer and I need a new laptop. I need a 2in1 specifically since I will be taking a lot of notes on powerpoints and pdfs. It'll be my only computer since I expect to be moving around the country for clinical rotations. Would an X1 Yoga be a good purchase or should I get something cheaper and a separate tablet for note taking?

>> No.63508161

>>63507732
My Crucial is 3 years old and still doing fine.

>> No.63508207

>>63506197
If you are planning to change to a m2 nvme, You will need a ssd adapter. I think this is the part 01HY319 but I'm not so sure. If someone knows if it's correct, correct me pls.

>> No.63508279

I'm jumping in and asking a full retard question and fully deserve being lambasted.

A PI3 isn't going to be strong enough for the arcade machine I want to run, would getting a thinkpad be the next step up in terms of cheap machinery? Looking to be able to emulate up to PS2 at the very most.

>> No.63508413

>>63508279
You can get some cheap used i5 T4xx for 150 bucks or less.

>> No.63508500

>>63508413
Wouldn't the integrated graphics pose a problem for trying to emulate PS2/arcade games?

>> No.63508698
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Should I be a fucking nerd and buy IBM-branded palm rest and lid for my X61? Only like $15.

>> No.63508757

I need help, i finally persuaded my mum to ditch her macbook for a real laptop, she's elderly so preferably something that doesn't burn the house down and can be replaced rather cheaply.

>> No.63508762

>>63508500
T4xx up to 440 has socketed processors. A t440p is probably the best performance.

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>>63506289

>> No.63508805

>>63508757
t520 with a 1366x768 screen, elderly people love pixels the size of a bus

>>63508500
then get one with a dgpu, or the dgpu version motherboard alone

>> No.63508811

>>63508698
do it.

>> No.63508815

>>63506289
Should be fine, running it without the dGPU means you're only getting the heat output you'd get from a non dGPU model.

>> No.63508929

>>63504870
first off their are to different designs, they are physically different.
One for T430/20 the other for the T430s/20s

the 's' boards work perfectly
the non 's' boards have heavy PVM flicker due to having no electrical shielding, because both motherboards are different, the non s board happens to be next to the DC jack and causes issues.

In addition, there is going to be a 4K mod coming soon that works perfectly without any modified hardware.

>>63507732
Crucial is solid.
T400 & T500 don't need bleeding edge SSD.

>>63507771
A thinkpad is not an ideapad
You're like comparing a GMC truck to a Cadillac Cimarron

>> No.63509032
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I need a cheap librebootable thinkpad that doesnt need hardware changes and x60 seems to be it

problem is i cant find it for a good price

im from spain. where can i find a x60? what price should i be looking for?

>> No.63509046

>>63509032
also, is x60S and x61 librebootable or only x60?

>> No.63509165

>>63508929

>A thinkpad is not an ideapad
>You're like comparing a GMC truck to a Cadillac Cimarron

not only did i not know what an ideapad was before i asked in this thread, i don't know what those cars are either. that's why i came to you guys so you could tell me what to do

>> No.63509194

>>63509046
X60s is librebootable, but not X61

I'd say regular X60 in the US, you can hunt down for $40 if you are patient, maybe $60 if you wanted clean one... but of course you guys over in Europe might have to pay a little more. If you pay more than $100 USD you're overpaying though. As for the X60s, they are a little uncommon and I couldn't say what they go for, but if you are patient they will show up. Regular X60 is still smol though, so don't worry too much about it.

How about-
Ideal: 35 Euro
Pretty good: 50 Euro
Maximum: 80 Euro

As for where to find them, don't know. eBay maybe. Maybe try to look for offices or schools that are getting rid of old computers.

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>>63509165
>15.6" HD (1366 x 768)

>> No.63509314

Need to buy a new HDD for my x230, but I am forced to get a 2.5" 7mm sized drive.
Do I go with Seagate? It's significantly cheaper than WD options. Also is SSHD a mememe?

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>>63506704
>>63506897
>x230t
Hey sexy ;)

>> No.63509509

Hey /tpg/,

I just picked up an X200 from some guy on Craigslist for $60 and it came with LibreBoot on there. From what I understand that is a very good thing, but also I have literally no idea what I'm doing (first time really using Linux).

So here's my issue. I'm trying to get the minimal install of Ubuntu (i.e. mini.iso) on there, but if I put mini.iso on a pen drive using Rufus, then when I press "u" then nothing happens (screen flashes, then back at regular boot, same as if no USB is plugged in). However, the puzzling part is if I use a Debian .iso or Xubuntu .iso using the exact same steps, everything works fine. (the former changes the menu to be Debian themed and I can boot into installer, the latter boots straight to the LiveCD). Does anyone know why this isn't working (or, how I can install Xubuntu without the bloat)?

>> No.63509540

>>63509314
>is SSHD a mememe?
no, its a youyouyou

>> No.63509577

>>63509509
>when I press "u"
what do you mean?
and what exactly happens? does it boot off the usb drive or from disk? did you hit the ThinkVintage button?

>> No.63509588

>>63508929
>In addition, there is going to be a 4K mod coming soon that works perfectly without any modified hardware.
Explain further.

>> No.63509617

>>63509577
Like in the opening LibreBoot menu, I have a bunch of options. The one corresponding to "u" is "Search ISOLINUX menu (USB)" which I assume is the right thing since it works for Debian and Xubuntu.

Nothing happens. My disk currently has Win7 on it (from old laptop) so if LibreBoot tries to boot it obviously won't succeed. It doesn't boot off USB drive or disk when the USB has mini.iso on it, but if the USB has Xubuntu it will boot from USB and if it has Debian on it it will go into a new menu that is Debian-themed but with similar options.

I don't know what the ThinkVantage button even does haha should I hit it?

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>>63509194
so what is this one?

http://www.ebay.es/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X61-X60S-12-1-Intel-Core-2-Duo-2-GB-Ram-80-GB-HDD-Win7-WIFI/272776495465?hash=item3f82bf0169:g:YtQAAOSwfVpYodzI

it says ThinkPad X61/X60S so wtf

>> No.63509754

>>63509693
also


http://www.ebay.es/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-R60e-Intel-Core-2-Duo-2-GB-Ram-80-HDD-Windows-7-DVD-Laptop/282692964032?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20161027085944%26meid%3D2ff4f8bfe21f4208b7c96d081c279d7e%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D272776495465&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1

what is the x60E ? what does E stand for?

and what does S stan dfor in x60S?

>> No.63510123

>>63509754
The "S" probably stands for Slim or Small or something, because the S are always slimmer. No fuckin clue re: E

>> No.63510147

>>63509617
Couldn't figure out this issue but just in case someone in like 3 years is reading an archived version of this post, I just ended up giving up and installing Xubuntu Core from unit193.net.

>> No.63510212

What do you guys think of the E570

>> No.63510335

>>63509754
E is supposed to be economy I think. Nowadays they call it edge

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>>63509165
We talk about IBM/Lenovo Thinkpads, Dell Latitudes/Precisions, HP Elitebooks/Probooks and maybe MacBooks.

Ideapads are not talked about here because they are consumer trash, not a business laptop

They are not a thinkpad
Clean your eyes if you can't tell the difference

>>63509588
RMSmajestic will be ordering some kits soon
>https://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=124841

4K might be a bit much tho, didn't care for it on the X1 Carbon 3

>>63510212
Just buy a T470.
But whatever, E series don't have the magnesium frame, so less durability.

You're probably looking at it because it has gaymer graphics card.

>>63509754
S stood for slim, or slimmer model, it uses a different motherboard than the standard X60.
E were for economy, and they were cheaper, less featured models of laptops.

They are now edge series.

>>63509314
I've yet to use an SSHD but the 5400RPM drive turns me away from them.
Plus finding out the SSD size on them can be a pain. Not all are 128GB :(

>> No.63510430

>t420 dropped about 3 feet from a counter
>only thing that broke was the CPU fan
>still cools but makes a loud sound like its hitting the side constantly

How difficult of an operation would it be to replace the fan? I almost want to just permanently fix a cooler to the side of it rather than attempt to take it apart because I'm not great at these things.

>> No.63510473

>>63510430
Why not send it to the repair shop? Buy the fan online so they don't rip you off and just ask them to take it apart and replace the fan.

>> No.63510516

>>63510430
Just order a new fan or fan+heatsink and do it yourself, it's very easy to replace on the T420.

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>>63510430
You will probably have to unfuck the frame because it was bent.

Had some person send me their MSI laptop because it got ran over in a backpack

Other then being a bit ugly, the screen had some pressure marks and the fans sounded nasty.

>> No.63510795

>>63505378
>norwegian keyboard
Just get chink rune stickers to put over english keys, Varg.

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Protip: the VGA port on Thinkpads is screwed in by those hex things.

>> No.63511200

>>63511089
That's all vga ports everywhere
Did you really break that board, anon?

>> No.63511222

redpill me on a new T430 battery, /g/tards

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>x220 docked
>eGPU via expresscard
>mSATA SSD

feels good mayne

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I'm missing the screw for the hard drive cover (on a T500 if it matters.) What's the size to get? I checked the maintenance manual, it doesn't say.

And I ask this knowing I can just buy a replacement cover & screw from eBay for under $2 shipped.

>> No.63511317

>>63511200
Yes senpai. What are the chances that the board still works after having its VGA port ripped off?

I'm have expecting that I'll have to buy a new mobo anyway, because the reason I took it out was because my fan had a sudden death, and I've been hearing that usually when fans die they'll make it known with horrendous sounds, which mine didn't make. So I'm thinking that power isn't going to the fan anymore. I was compiling Firefox 57 and I had the laptop on my bed. When I got up to put it on my lap I noticed there wasn't any hot air coming from the vent. I rebooted of course I got a Fan Error.

>> No.63511319

okay so i'm wondering how well do older thinkpads hold up to intense DAW usage (namely FL studio?)

im in the market for a cheap notebook to carry with me on the go, and would like it to be able to support my production requirements so i don't have to either use someone else's setup or try to get people to come back to my apartment to record

>> No.63511327

>>63511317
Pretty low, unless you were very careful about it.
Honestly, I'd just say to get a new mobo.

>> No.63511364

>>63511319
if you're on the go then check out a T4xx or X2xx series laptop. I you want to find out exactly how well it should perform then run a benchmark on your current computer, then compare it to that of other laptops that you're looking at. That should give you a good idea of what to expect.

>> No.63511385

>>63510516
I've seen videos on youtube, it doesn't seem very hard, but I am very lazy

So I am considering the buying +asking a repair shop to do it as >>63510473 suggested.

but now I am wondering if what >>63510581 said is correct. Because the fan is still working fine, but makes a ton of noise as if its hitting the side. Seeing as how it dropped hitting the corner the cpu is in, this seems more likely. Would unfucking the frame even be feasible?

Guess I won't know until I try but somehow I'm filled with more doubts than when I first asked

>> No.63511443
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>>63504360
I'm using a x230-T any advice on how to get it to work more smoothy with gnome or is there a better DE for the touchscreen?

>> No.63511528

>>63511443
More smoothly how?
Tell me what you're after.

>> No.63511543

>>63510147
You didn't try manually booting. Libreboot menu and press I think "c" for grub cli.

>> No.63511557

>>63511385
i'm doing some research now and it looks like the T430 would be more than enough to handle what i'm planning to throw at it.

my only question is how do i buy one of these used without getting ripped off? I see quite a few listed on ebay for a $10 starting bid, and while that definitely makes me want to pull the trigger asap i am wary that it's just a scam and i'll be out the price+shipping.

any way to sus out trusted sellers outside of just checking feedback (which they all seem generic, almost bot-like replies)?

>> No.63511572

>>63507466
I PUSH MY FINGERS INTO MY

>> No.63511635

>>63511528
Smoothness and just better overall integration. It is just far better on windows, but I am sure someone could point me in the direction to make it a better experience in Linux.

>> No.63511650

>>63511572
expresscard slot

>> No.63511652

>>63511635
Start with gnome-pie, see if that helps you out any
I suggest setting at least one menu to hold right click, that way you can get it without taking your hand off the pen.

>> No.63511656
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63511656

Quick wallpaper I was inspired to make because of
>>63510418
If there is any Thinkpad/IBM related photoshops (memes, wallpapers, etc) feel free to ask, I am bored haha.

>> No.63511667

>>63511652
I'll give it a shot. Thanks man!

>> No.63511673

>>63511656
>1366x768
subtle trolling m8

>> No.63511699

>>63511673
I can do any resolution m8, just made that one for my X220.

>> No.63511719

>>63511261
M3 but i forgot the length. maybe 5?

>> No.63511755

>>63511650
I'm honestly considering making a r*ddit account at this because they would have better odds of actually knowing about modern thinkpads.

>> No.63511773

>>63511755
>modern thinkpads
Yes, you're probably right, faggot. Modern thinkpads are a shit in every way except base hardware. Even then, that is debatable.

>> No.63512175

https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/Thinkpad-X1-Yoga-2nd-Gen/p/22TP2TXX12Y

Should I pull the trigger?

>> No.63512236

>>63504561
what about the 3D printed part? where do i get the stl?

>> No.63512284

>>63504458
is this it?
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=550500573653

>> No.63512595
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63512595

best thinkpad (cheap and readily available) for drawing?

>> No.63512615

>>63505335
I never understood the need for blank keycaps

>> No.63512633

>>63508805
dgpu T440p is rare as fug

>> No.63512638

what's the best thinkpad with a 1920×1080 display and upgradable CPU/SSD/Battery?

>> No.63512658

>>63512595
x220t

>> No.63512671

>>63512638
T440p, I think.
It's one of the last thinkpads to have a swappable CPU

>> No.63512690
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63512690

Is it safe to move laptops while it's still running, T420 to be exact?
Does mild vibration, like swaying when pressing the keyboard effect it? assuming there's a HDD inside and not SSD.

>> No.63512713
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63512713

>>63512690

>> No.63512739

>>63512690
Generally HDD's do not take kindly to movement. However, Thinkpads are overall quite robust, and they have been using HDD's in laptops for decades before SSD hit the market. So it's not your best bet, but you'll survive.

>> No.63512758

>buy t420
>has arch linux on it
>full of hentai

Reselling it. Just can't use this fap machine.

>> No.63512774

>>63511773
>except base hardware
As apposed to? The software? The build quality?
The OP says that the P series has similar build quality.
Man, the last FOUR goddamn laptops I've had needed to be sent back brcause of shitt build quality, and they all cost over 1k.
I'm okay with overpaying for mediocre specs, I just want a better chance of it not falling apart.

>> No.63512816

Is there any hope for a guy with no experience to fix a blown backlight fuse on a thinkpad?

>> No.63512828
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63512828

>>63512713
It's valid question.
>>63512739
Yeah, but most of the usage was while the laptop was stationary, due to being poorfag I have to use something like pic, which isn't the sturdiest thing around.
The only thing that worries me is the HDD dying on me.

Or is it safe to move it if the "Hard Drive access light" isn't blinking?

>> No.63512847

>>63512671
thanks, is it worth the price to max it out w/ i7, 512GB SSD, 16 GB memory?

>> No.63512874

Just ordered an x240 ssd. is there coffee and doughnuts in the lobby?

>> No.63512878

>12-14'' RavenRidge Thinkpad when!?!?!?!

>> No.63512937

>>63512690
It's fine just don't fling it around while moving it.

>> No.63512939

>>63512847
512GB SSD, depends on how much chinese cartoons you want to store
The i7 and 16GB ram upgrades are not neccesary to most people, unless you do shit like running multiple virtual machines, or using Veracrypt a lot

>> No.63512964

>>63504458
Is there any flickering?

>> No.63512982

>>63512939
where's the best place to get the T440p in Europe? seems to be unavailable everywhere I look

>> No.63512996
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63512996

How safe is it to remove these?

>> No.63513022

>>63512996
Very unsafe.

>> No.63513049

im deciding to buy a t420, can i install both ssd and hdd on it? I want to maximize storage

>> No.63513051

>>63512982
I don't live in europe, so I can't say about local options. Digging around on craigslist would be my best guess.
They're always available on Ebay though, if you really can't find one locally

>> No.63513100

>>63512774
Yes the build quality and keyboard layout.

>> No.63513175

>>63512996
Not a good idea.
It still leave a clear discolored area after removal

>> No.63513221

>>63513049
yeah, you can replace the dvd drive with optical bay hdd caddy and even add msata ssd. although the latter isn't cost effective

>> No.63513276

>>63513221
oh nice thanks for the tip

>> No.63513389

T440p vs T470?

>> No.63513438

>>63513389
Obviously t470 for the specs assuming you can get them for the same price.

>> No.63513462

>>63512996
Those stickers are designed to be removed without residue.

JK. sticky residue remain sometimes. Just put a bit of babby oil on a cloth.

>> No.63513597

>>63513022
Why?

>> No.63513631

T440
8GB DDR3
250GB SSD
i5-4300u 1.90Ghz

how much should I be aiming to pay for this?

>> No.63513803

>>63513100
So you disagree with the OP that says the build quality is similar?
Surely it's better than other laptops brands, yes?
Non-modern laptops out of the question, i just want the best build quality laptop.

>> No.63514217

>>63513803
The only difference between modern and old thinkpad quality is the new ones don't have the excessive roll cage design that served no purpose for 95% of its users. If you're a programmer or statistician that drops his laptop twice a month like I do, its a non-factor. If you're getting shot into space at 8 g's on a fucking shuttle launch, it still won't matter. If you're going into a warzone and need a brick to throw at someone, it might matter.

I've purchased or been been supplied with a new thinkpad every 18 months or so for the last 8 years of my life and I haven't noticed any decline in build quality, aside from the early T500s that had fucked up hinges.

>> No.63514630

what thinkpad should i look for?
i need one medium/smal size, or at least not too big, cheap, i'm just gonna put manjaro on it and use it for basic work and occasionaly burn some iso or music

>> No.63514705

>>63505335
A brush and some black acrylic paint. Added benefit of being rougher so your fingers don't slide off.

>> No.63514717

>>63511699
Then make it 2560x1440, for my p40.

>> No.63514737

>>63514630
Read the OP, it has the info you need.

>> No.63514781

>>63507466
I have the P51 and it's pretty comfy. The 4K display is gorgeous and the cooling system is incredible. The fans almost never run since the temperature is usually under 50°C. The build quality is excellent and is highly serviceable. To anyone that says it costs a lot, I still paid less than a Macbook Pro.

>> No.63514808

>>63514217
Every 18 months? Do yoy really go through them that quickly? I had my $600 HP for 4 years running pretty intensively before it finally wore out

>> No.63514837

Just bought a Thinkpad 420 with a dock, what can I expect? I plan to install Kubuntu on it, what should I do first to pimp it out?

>> No.63514851

>>63513462
Isn't that under the assumption they are removed immediately, wouldn't the plastic change slightly in color over time? I'd imagine if you removed the stickers from something like x200 right now you would at least see a small difference.

>> No.63514906

>>63514737
i know, but i still can't make a choice, that's why i ask for advice

>> No.63514958

buy p50 backlit keyboards are a meme my eyes are bleeding

>> No.63515077
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63515077

I wanted to use my old T400 for older gaming so installed XP. that runs fine.

I wish 98 was compatible.

pic not mine.

>> No.63515219

>>63514781
P51 stays cool because it has such a weak GPU. The heatsink is not very impressive.

>> No.63515279

>>63514906
If you're looking for cheap used, then X220 or X201. X200 only if you cant find anything else for cheap

>> No.63515359

T440s with ubuntu here.

Every time i open an new tab in chrome, the cpu usage spikes for like one second. That's okay i guess, but it makes my temps spike and makes thinkfan go to the highest level - meaning it gets very noisy.

How can i handle this? I don't mind throttling as it's only a problem when i'm using my thinkpad at school.

I have powersave on.

>> No.63515450

>>63515219
supposedly it likes to throttle a lot too

>> No.63515550

I could buy a cheap T440 on ebay with a broken display (can prob change that) but it has a bios password, is there any way to work around that?

>> No.63515957
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>>63510418
So are all of the X60 (X60S and X60E) equally booteable, or should I only get the original X60?

>> No.63516148

>>63512284
I can't find the same seller I used, but that's the one.

>> No.63516159

>>63515957
The s is just a slimmer variant, nothing wrong with it, I love mine. Stay away from anything e or i.

>> No.63516251

>>63512996
They leave a pretty clear discolored area but that wears away after using it for a while.

>> No.63516594

I got a refund on the t61 and the seller let me keep it, I already submitted negative feedback so I feel bad now but I'm using jb weld on those parts and it looks like it will work well. I broke a plastic piece that originally held a screw to further secure the hinge in, but I didn't think jb weld would work so well so that can't be helped I suppose.

>> No.63516819
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63516819

I'd still like to do some future project with my TransNote. As anyone from /tpg/ ever do something with this blast from the past? Ideally I'd like to have an ssd in it, some barebones version of Linux and use it as a dedicated IRC machine. I'm not optimistic an ssd exists that will work for it but hey. Also in the picture is my daily driver x220 and my beastmode w700ds.

>> No.63516868

>>63516819
>W700ds
that's a rare find

>> No.63517449

How noisy should a fan going ~3000 RPM be? It's one of the lowest fan speeds on my t440s, but i think it's a bit too loud for just idling.

If i need to replace it, how would i know really?

>> No.63517462

>>63513389
t440p, dual core ulv a shit

>> No.63517596

How do you do that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNJsFURpMT4
I find the trackpad very easy to use than the trackpoint.

>> No.63517655

>>63517596
It's not that hard, i do the same shit with CSGO on my t440p sometimes.

>> No.63517737

>>63513631
T440 is not the T440p. You can not upgrade the CPU on the T440.

>> No.63517762

>>63515550
No go.

>> No.63517813

What would you guys for something more modern? I'd like to get something like a T420 or W520, but Ivy Bridge is a little too old for me to be dumping money into in 2017. Doesn't necessarily have to be a Thinkpad, although I'd like it to be one. I just want something rugged and expandable that isn't as big as a toughbook.

>> No.63517833

>>63517813
T440p if you want to replace the cpu for a quad core and the display for a FHD IPS. The newer p versions if you're planning to get a brand new quad core + ips screen configuration.

>> No.63517990

>>63517833
Is the T440P UEFI? What's the best CPU it'll take? I'm doing some research on it right now, just wandering if you knew off the top of your head.

>> No.63518043

>>63517990
Yes, The extreme editions of Haswell mobile CPUs but that's just asking for housefires/throttling.

I use the 4800MQ on mine, it came originally with the 4300M.

>> No.63518081

im new about bios thing but can x220 be librebooted?

>> No.63518088
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63518088

wait a fucking second.
nobody told me T420 has a discrete nvidia graphics card, what the fuck
this thing is so sketchy, the seller said it had 1366x768 and it turned out to be 1600x900
did I luck out or is the discrete card shit? I hear Nvidia is horrible for linux

>> No.63518139

>>63513803
>>63514217
if you want max durability (for not much weight), you gotta have the roll cage, lovin my x220

>> No.63518178

>>63518081
also, i found a deal for 150$, is it worth it?
Plz help

>> No.63518198

>>63518088
seller probably didn't know what he had & just c/ped the first (base) set of specs he found on google

it's a win for you so stop freaking out. if the nvidia chip is acting fucky with your loonix, just disable it in bios and use the igpu

>> No.63518222

>>63518088
some models have it, it's a downgrade imo

>> No.63518281

>>63518222
i don't see why. the igpu is still on there for power-saving, linux, etc, and 3d games in windows run (marginally) better on the nvidia chip.

rather than a downgrade, i'd call it an option that most people don't really benefit from

>> No.63518445

>>63518281
Well as you said it's only marginally better than the igpu, generates more heat overall since it shares the heatsink and fan with the CPU, and because of that a future quad core upgrade isn't viable.

>> No.63518545

>>63518445
Turn it off in the bios, and then you have a better heatsink (which only provides 1c better temps)

I swear you must be acoustic.

>> No.63518708

>>63515077
lol, i use my T400 as a daily for programming and development (e.g. gamedev with aseprite).
For retro gaming i have a T40 and T41.
I would recommend getting a T40/41/42 since 4:3 > 16:9 (in terms of retro gaming).
Have Snes9x and a couple of old windows games installed on my T41. It is running XP and im capable of emulating most older systems and running DOS programs.

>> No.63518743

>>63516819
>w700ds
dayum son, how much did you pay for it?

>> No.63518906

Just ordered a dock for the x220. 15€ seems suspiciously low but the seller is verified so whatever.
I pluged my keyboard and mouse into a kvm box and so if I need my desktop for gayming or whatever, I can switch it without having to unplug anything.
Thanks for reading my blog.

>> No.63518971

>>63505335
Remove the keycaps and sandblast them until the lettering is gone. Also produces a nie texture.

>> No.63519022

>>63511327
It actually fucking works, of course there is a gaping whole where the VGA port was though. The hard part is putting it all back together.

>> No.63519046
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63519046

which thinkpad is this?

>> No.63519078

>>63519046
w700ds

>> No.63519130

>>63519078
are they hard to find?

>> No.63519164

I've bought an x230 with a 500GB HDD, should I add an mSATA SSD or just replace it with a 2,5" SSD?

>> No.63519165

>>63519130
They are about a grand on ebay and are quite rare.

t. earlier in this thread

>> No.63519254
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63519254

Just bought a w540 for $450. Already has the extended battery.
how did i do?
tomorrow i will be adding a hdd caddy with a WD Black 1tb drive @7200rpm

>> No.63519269

>>63519164
just replacce with SSD familia
>>63519254
score!

>> No.63519366

Opinion on the X1 Carbon, lads?

>> No.63519397

I'm going to Tokyo during the holiday season. I heard that there are some exclusive ThinkPad in Japan. Are they any good and worth getting? I have a budget around 30000Yen.

>> No.63519424

>>63519366
it's thin
keyboard sux dix

>> No.63519445

I found a x230 laptop with i5-3320m 8gigs of ram and 320gb hdd for 250Euros. I am going to get a ssd instead of the HDD. is this a good price?

>> No.63519462

>>63519397
>I have a budget around 30000Yen.
kek that's like a day worth of eating food at restaurants.

>> No.63519664

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Japanese-Cell-Genuine-Original-New-Laptop-Battery-for-Lenovo-Thinkpad-X230-X230I-batteries-45N1172-45N1022-45N1033/32283419279.html

Are these chink batteries legit? I need new battery for my x230 because only 50% capacity left in my old battery.

>> No.63519684

>>63519445
not at all, you should be able to find them for half that

>> No.63519701

Does anyone know if the 4th gen tp 11e has a free ram socket or if its soldered? I find conflicting answers when searching forums

>> No.63519715

>>63519684
where? looking at ebay and it's always between 200-250

>> No.63519757

I bought a T450 for $330 the other day on ebay. It gets here soon but the seller offers free returns.

1. Is $330 a good deal? It's a 256GB SSD, not sure if M.2 or SATA but whatever it is I'm planning on ripping it out and throwing in my old 128GB SATA, and

2. I found this one instead:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-14in-T450-Intel-Core-i5-2-3GHz-8GB-RAM-500GB-HDD-LPT-215/391931894233?hash=item5b40f619d9:g:quQAAOSw7EJZge7c

Would this be better if I could buy a new keyboard & trackpad to throw in there?

>> No.63519845

>>63519715
try looking outside of europe then because i can pretty regularly find them for about $200 AUD (like $130 euro)

>> No.63519861
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63519861

>>63516159
but is it LIBREBOOTEABLE the same as the normal one?

i dont want to fucking brick it

can you retards read

>> No.63519874
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63519874

also what one is this?


http://www.ebay.es/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X61-X60S-12-1-Intel-Core-2-Duo-2-GB-Ram-80-GB-HDD-Win7-WIFI/272776495465?hash=item3f82bf0169:g:YtQAAOSwfVpYodzI

it says ThinkPad X61/X60S on the fucking title so wtf am i buying there fuck SAKEEEEEEEEEEEESAAAAAA

>> No.63519880

>>63519845
dirty kangaroo bastard

>> No.63520108

>>63511656
i dont know why but every time i see this laptop i get goosebumps

>> No.63520110
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63520110

I got myself an antique thinkpad, 600X to be honest.
And in a very good condition.
Anybody knows where can I get Win98 for it?

>> No.63520157

>>63520110
i have the win98 iso but it's in spanish

>> No.63520406

>>63504360
What do you guys think about new thinkpad t470, x270 ,t570 for developing/programming?

>> No.63520647

>>63519046
>>63519078
>w700ds
you just gave me a mission.
thank's anon!

>> No.63520793

>>63519022
Surprising.
You could take the VGA port out of the old one, screw it into the new one, and fill the holes in it with hot glue.
You'd want to shave down the inside a bit more though, so you wouldn't have any chance of random contacts.

>> No.63520881

ffs, I cant get thinkfan working. Even with one anons help yesterday

>tp_fan /proc/acpi/ibm/fan
>hwmon /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/hwmon/hwmon2/temp2_input
>hwmon /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/hwmon/hwmon2/temp5_input
>hwmon /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/hwmon/hwmon2/temp3_input
>hwmon /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/hwmon/hwmon2/temp1_input
>hwmon /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/hwmon/hwmon2/temp4_input
>hwmon /sys/devices/virtual/hwmon/hwmon0/temp1_input

>(0, 0, 42)
>(1, 40, 47)
>(2, 45, 52)
>(3, 50, 57)
>(4, 55, 62)
>(5, 60, 77)
>(7, 73, 93)
>(127, 85, 32767)

results in

>answer to this post

>> No.63520891

>>63520881

>/sys/devices/platform/>coretemp.0/hwmon/hwmon2/>temp2_input: No such file or >directory

>/sys/devices/platform/>coretemp.0/hwmon/hwmon2/>temp5_input: No such file or >directory

>/sys/devices/platform/>coretemp.0/hwmon/hwmon2/>temp3_input: No such file or >directory

>/sys/devices/platform/>coretemp.0/hwmon/hwmon2/>temp1_input: No such file or >directory

>/sys/devices/platform/>coretemp.0/hwmon/hwmon2/>temp4_input: No such file or >directory
>readconfig: Error getting >temperature.
>Refusing to run without usable >config file!

>> No.63520948

>>63519861
If you stick to English then sure, you fucking retard.

>> No.63520958

>>63520881
>>63520891

when writing
>tp_thermal
instead of
>hwmon
at the beginning of each line in the config, I only get

>/sys/devices/platform/>coretemp.0/hwmon/hwmon2/>temp2_input: No such file or >directory

>add_sensor: Error getting >temperature.
>Refusing to run without usable >config file!

>> No.63521696
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63521696

Quickly looking for a TP recommendation for mum?

Legitimately just need a simple machine for FB, email, taxes, etc. All that basic junk. No gaming or anything fancy. Some movie playback from DVD or even just x264.

Needs to be lightweight (talking less than 5lbs, maybe 3lbs), screen size 15" or less.

Thanks

>> No.63521872

>>63521696
x220/230
t420/430

>> No.63521891

I want an IBM PC110 like device but not pay tons of money for it

how can i do htis

>> No.63522073

Looking for a cheeky X60 distro because Triqsuel is getting too old.

Are there any decent 32-bit libre distros left, or should I just go with debian testing and stick to free packages?

>> No.63522103
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>>63512996
I removed mine no problem

>> No.63522211

I want to replace my T420s. What I want in order of priority

* Best quality screen at 1080p or higher
* 14 or 15"
* Quad core
* Capable of 16GB RAM
* PCIe for SSD would be nice but unlikely

What options do I have?

>> No.63522231

>>63522103
Y

>> No.63522424

>>63522211
t440p
t540p if you want fhd 3k but angles are sort of shit for an ips screen

>> No.63522811

How much would you pay in europe for the following X230:

i5 3320M
8GB RAM
128GB SSD + 500GB 7200rpm HDD
Swedish keyboard with portuguese stickers on it
9 cell battery with 75% capacity
TN screen
No scratches or anything like that on the case.

I'm selling. I might bundle an EXP GDC eGPU thingy with it.

>> No.63522854

>>63522231
Y ¬

>> No.63522888

>>63522811
250 bucks for all. I would pay more for a socketed CPU model.

>> No.63522913

>>63519022
Actually, it's not surprising that it works. The PCB in that area is through-hole, so there aren't any traces surrounding the pins that aren't for the VGA connector. Since the PCB broke so close to the pins, you haven't damaged any other traces on the PCB. In fact, with a bit of careful soldering, it would be possible to re-attach a VGA connector to the board.

>> No.63522966

>>63521872
Yup, just showed her an X230, 8GB RAM, 500GB HDD, i5, 12.5", 350$CAD. Win 7 1yr warranty.

Or she was interested in 6310s, or whatever the Latitudes are.

>> No.63522968

>>63519366
First one wasn't terrible. New models are quite good.

>> No.63522982

>>63522811
I paid $260 for mine in Chile (brand new 500GB HDD, IPS screen, 4GB ram, Spanish keyboard, new Chinese battery)

>> No.63523016

>>63522966
The Dell latitudes of the time are also really good machines.

>> No.63523093

>>63516594
it's alive!
Just put generous amounts of jb weld on the pieces and I'm waiting for it to dry, I also put some on the broken plastic in the corner and am gonna plastidip that corner. I did a little bit of adjusting and a final layer of jb weld, looks promising. I'm glad I checked the floor and found that last piece of magnesium on the floor otherwise there'd be no way to fix it.

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>>63523093

>> No.63523698

>>63520948
kys mong

>> No.63523719
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>>63504360
If you get the touchscreen for the T470p will it be glossy instead of matte? I hate having a matte screen on a laptop because cleaning it is tougher.

>> No.63523809

>>63504360
>buying chinkpad in 2017
Not even once

>> No.63523833

Considering purchasing a Librebooted T400 from Minifree. Should I?

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>> No.63524256

>>63524228
woops forgot to put my question

can someone turn pic related into a flashable image for the bios splash screen? i've tried turning it into a 16 bit bmp, a gif, a jpg, cropping it, changing colors, everything but it doesn't want to flash properly (creates a giant corrupted mess of a splash screen).

i could also upload the .psd file if it's needed. i've spent too many hours on this

>> No.63524271

>>63524228
>>63524256
it's a t420 btw. the bios splashes on the booru work but i have no idea why

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>>63524228
>>63524256
If you're using grub, I would look in your grub.cfg and make sure that the file name and file type match your file - I spent a lot of time on mine before I figured that out

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>>63524484
w-what's grub

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>>63524484
Art by EdogawaKid on pixiv

>> No.63524540

>>63524500
I'm new here - my only experience with changing a bios splash is with a librebooted system (which replaces the factory bios with grub, a free bios)

>> No.63524558

>>63524500
>>63524540
In other words, I have no idea about changing the bios splash on a factory bios, sorry!

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>>63524558
rip. well, if anyone else knows or can do it for me, here's an updated splash...

>> No.63524619

>>63524256
Never actually done this, but I think you have to make it a certain resolution (640x480)

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>>63524619
i tried to make it 640x480. followed these rules to the point

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63524686

Is there anything really wrong with the Thinkpad 25?

I was going to get a T470p but this caught my eye.


Would it be ok for virtualizing maybe 2 VM's at a time(Win10, or A ubuntu box).

Will I be able to upgrade the 1080p screen to the 4k one available on the T470p?

Lastly, Linux support? Im assuming decent if the other models are any indication. but there really isn't much out there on this specific one.


PLS HELP

>> No.63525426

>>63524228
I'll give it a shot, made like 9 of the bios in the booru. Post psd (because i doubt you'll want to use that blurry logo and that aliased haruhi).

>> No.63525462

>>63524504
post the original ruri pls, those borders look like blyat

>> No.63525566

>>63525426
Thanks friend. I'm not home right now so here's the PNG files I used instead of the psd.

https://my.mixtape.moe/xolnzf.zip

All I did was grayscale, fine edges, invert, and alter brightness settings. Massive thanks again

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>>63525462
Gomen, post if you make a better version

>> No.63525763

>>63525566
https://my.mixtape.moe/ezljdm.gif

See if it works, I'm on my x61t right now which uses .mod logos so i can't test it.

>> No.63525839

>>63504360
I'm considering selling my desktop and just using my X220 instead while docked at my desktop. The only kind of work I do is make music in Renoise, photoshop, and occasional video editing. Plan on upgrading ram to 8gb. Right now the only games I consistently play on my desktop is Black Desert. I can easily live without it. Now whenever I play games it's on my PS4. Have any of you made this kind of switch?

>> No.63525907

>>63525763
I will try it when I get back. Thanks dude

>> No.63525923

>>63524686
>Is there anything really wrong with the Thinkpad 25?
It has a low voltage dual core.
>Would it be ok for virtualizing maybe 2 VM's at a time(Win10, or A ubuntu box).
No.

Get the T470p if you wanna do VMs, it has a quad core.

>> No.63525991

>>63525907
Tried to make a monochrome version like your original one but the sos logo looked like shit imo.

>> No.63526193

My girlfriend needs a laptop for professional school. She mainly wants to use it with a stylus to take notes on it. Shes a girl, and thus rough with her shit. What is a relatively aesthetic business class laptop that has a touch screen?

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>>63526193
>Shes a girl

>> No.63526247

I press the rotate screen button on wangblows 10 on x230t and it dindu nuffin. How to fix?

>> No.63526373

Thinking of getting an x131e with the E2-1800 for muh no botnet. Anyone here owned one before. I know the chip is an APU, but 18W in an 11 inch form factor seems a nuclear bomb in disguise.

>> No.63526406

is the t520 any good or should I replace it for a t420? From what I understand its just a shit tier w520 right?

>> No.63526438

>>63526247
Dunno but it works on my x61t running w10 ltsb

>>63526406
Yeah it's fine, and it's more like a bigger t420, can use FHD and has better cooling for the quad core processors.

>> No.63526453

so i found a cheap librebooted X200 off craigslist and now i've fallen for the >free software meem

however my X200 came with a Centrino Ultimate-N 6300, which i'm pretty sure has proprietary software, and also i kind of want bluetooth and i have no idea whether the bluetooth 4.0 chips on ebay for the X200 use proprietary software. is there any repository of wifi cards/bluetooth chips/other peripherals that use free software?

>> No.63526506

>>63523833
If you already have access to the tools to libreboot yourself that is the route you should go. I bought a T400 for $75 and librebooted myself. I think minifree sells them for like $300+ (something like that)

If you wanted to save time though I bet it would be a solid investment. They refurbish their laptops too so you can feel confident they will be in pretty good shape. Shoot for the cheapest option and buy hardware upgrades separately to save some money if at all possible.

>> No.63526533

>>63526438
is 8 gb of ram enough for hard usage?

>> No.63526582

>>63526533
depends on what you do with it but all of the *20 pads support up to 16gb, the w520 up to 32.

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>>63525991
It's fucking beautiful Anon. How exactly did you do this?

>> No.63526693

>>63526193
recently bought an X220T for $200, best purchase I've ever made. Aesthetic is personal opinion.

>> No.63526716

>>63526619
Just photoshop and comfyness from using an X61t. Also a couple of filters to bring down the filesize to less than 30kb such as dithering, the file size limit is the main issue with these things.

By the way there's an option in the bios to turn off that "press the ThinkVantage button" message if you want to make it cleaner, i think it's in the "boot" tab.

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>bought a lenovo branded 44+ (63Wh) battery
>battery itself says "min. 5160mAh" 11.1V (therefore minimum should be 58Wh)
>when I check it in HWMonitor it says it has a 48Wh design capacity
Is HWMonitor an unreliable way to check batteries or is this a chink battery disguised as a lenovo one?

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You guys use a really water resistant sleeve or bag for your thinkpads on the go for when it rains?

>> No.63527179

>>63527154
My backpack is waterproof, i use a Thinkpad branded backpack i got for free like a good shill.

>> No.63527186

>>63527179
D-do you know what kind? Link?

>> No.63527254

>>63527186
The label says BP100, it even has a FRU 0A33911.

>> No.63527302

>>63527254
awesome, thanks anon

>> No.63527330

can you make a work horse out of a t420? I want to abuse the shit out it and I dont know if its built for video editing/ heavy stuff

pls help

>> No.63527364

>>63527330
Only if you flash a custom BIOS so you can upgrade the CPU. If you don't wanna flash get a cheap i5 T430 (less than 200 bucks would be ideal) and buy a 45W i7 on ebay. Just make sure it got the right socket.

>> No.63527376

>>63527364
False, it supports quad cores out of the box.

The custom bios is for removing the pcie whitelist, unlock 1600 and 1866mhz ram and some extra bios settings.

>> No.63527423

Anyone here own a E470? Is it good? I need a new laptop for school and it looks to suit my needs. I’ve never owned a ThinkPad before.

>> No.63527435

>>63527254
have you really tested it in the rain?

>> No.63527494

>almost 2018
>still no librebooted x220

>> No.63527495

/tpg/'s opinion on xeon p50

>> No.63527509

>>63527435
Only a couple of times (probably less than 10 in total) and it worked fine, according to some google results it's waterproof so i guess it is.

>> No.63527688

>>63526193
x220t; x230t
if low on budget look for a x201t
Alternatively, there are HP and Dell equivalents to these models

>> No.63527720

>>63527423
>E

>> No.63527802

>>63527423
>e anything
throw it into the garbage bin

>> No.63527827

>>63526950
Looks like you got chinked lad

The mah should be around 6000 and 7000 IIRC for a 44+

Btw, why 44+ and not the 44++? Do you hate battery life?

>> No.63527850

>>63527827
I didn't want a hueg battery and also the 44+ was the only one that said it was authentic lenovo.
Is there a serial key checker for lenovo batteries somewhere? They went all out putting the lenovo logo and shit on this when the other chink ones I get never bothered with faking the brand.

>> No.63527913

>>63527720
>>63527802
Could you elaborate?

>> No.63527914

>>63527495
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_z7p0ybJkA

good review.

>> No.63527925

>>63527914
also this one from louis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig3xI8dUdm0

>> No.63527940

>>63527913
E series thinkpads do not have a magnesium rollcage, use cheaper plastics, low-end components in some cases. they're basically consumer-grade laptops marketed as business machines

>> No.63527943

>>63527850
post pic of the battery label

>> No.63527986

>>63527914
>>63527925
thank you anon

>> No.63528022

>>63527330
dGPU heatsink w/ coreboot & 3840QM gets you some good CPU horsepower into the T420, and eGPU is available if you need GPU horsepower.

>> No.63528240

How easy is it to make an external display out of a laptop screen? I want an external display for my T430 because eGPU but I'm wondering if it's cheaper to re-use a 17" 1080p display from a ROG laptop I toasted than buy a new monitor because it was a pretty decent screen to be honest and I pretty much can't sell it because third world.

>> No.63528343

>>63528240
Maybe this would work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfirQC99xPc

>> No.63528406
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63528406

>Decide to try windows 10 on my thinkpad
>Install LTSB 2016 because group policy and update control
>Battery utilities from lenovo don't exist for my thinkpad (x230)
>concerned about battery life and also I can't set thresolds.
>notice my hdd led constantly blinking
>scared of doing too many writes to my ssd.

wat do, it is normal, wtf is windows doing with so many disk activity?

>> No.63528571

>>63504360
>tfw finally found my dream chinkypad (T420 with an i3 and 1TB)

feels good not having to worry about the ME backdoor anymore.

>> No.63528614

>>63528571
>i3

>> No.63528677

>>63528614
>feels good not having to worry about the ME backdoor anymore.

That was my ration d'etre.

>> No.63528713

New thread:

>>63528706

>> No.63530214

Got a new T470 and battery life is disappointing for 3+6 cell. Is there anyway to improve battery life on W10?

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