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This is fake right? Coffee can't be this bad right?

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>> No.62443353

RIP in peace coffinlake

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oh its real, its real son

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>> No.62443406

>synthetic multi thread

i couldn't give less of a shit, that's a gaming cpu and it's going to btfo every poozen cpu in gaming, i'm tired of pajeet amd bullshit so i will never gonna buy their crap again, gonna go with intel and nvidia, i amd dies desu

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>> No.62443412

>high clockspeeds/high ipc

This kills the rypoo

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>> No.62443429

>This is fake right?
Guru3D hasn't published an 8700K review yet.

>> No.62443434

Give us the single core performance, intel has always sucked dick at multi-core.

>> No.62443438

thats decaf benchmarks post the ones with caffeine in them.

>> No.62443443

You can always tell the Intel marketers.

>> No.62443444

>since the launch of Ryzen 99.9% of AMD cpu owners are now content creators or streamers
Sounds legit

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>> No.62443453

>only a few games benefit from single core performance in 2017
Sorry corelets, you're old news.

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>yfw when I actualy have a delidded 6700k

This triggers the poo

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>> No.62443469

>Intel has CPU design teams in India
>AMD has GPU driver teams in India
Really makes you wonder who is actualyl the poo...

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Sure thing buddy

>> No.62443476

So are you saying intel users are 99% manchildren playing video games day/night and have no jobs?

>> No.62443478

>literally not a single 2017 game.

>> No.62443481

Are you blind?

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>> No.62443484

Worse than Ryzen, if you look closely, the 1600X has a few more points than 8700K, both have 12 threads.
Oh and remember the 8700K is some 6 billion niggerhertz housefire with the worst thermals yet, while 1600X is 3.9Ghz 95W and the heat spreader is actually soldered to the die, and if you want to upgrade and AMD CPU you don't need to buy a new motherboard because they don't change the socket and chipset every 6 months.

>> No.62443485

wow poozen is the new FX lmao

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>> No.62443505

You sound upset

>> No.62443512

>synthetic benchmark

Now, post the gaming benchmarks

>> No.62443513

why do the i9s outperform a 7700k in csgo?

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>>synthetic multi thread

>> No.62443525

oy vey you only get 400 fps with the amd! Buy Intelâ„¢ goy, our extreme processing processors allow you to achieve 450 fps in 15 year old game engines!
*ignores frame times*

>> No.62443529

Holy shit the amount of butthurt shilltel damage control ITT.

>i-it's still better for muh gaymes
>yes brian plz let me pay $400 for 1600X performance

>> No.62443534

>oy vey
>you need 8 cores goy, don't buy the cheaper 7700k if you want to game, get the 1800x goy

>> No.62443551

>>i-it's still better for muh gaymes

it's impossible to not be better for games and that's what the cpu is for, poozen as amd tradition goes blows in ipc and that's all that matters you can put 1000 cores it's not gonna change shit because no dev will bother to go through the nightmare to optimize for them

>> No.62443569

>complaining about frametimes when the minimums are higher on the Intel cpu's

This is the level of tech know how that AMDrones have

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Cool, I am not going to take some random person on /g/ for it. Single core performance is not as simple as comparing 2 cpus with similar cores and measuring their multi-core performance. Alot of applications are still not made with multicore in mind. AMD main selling point has always been cheap multicore performance and they optimized the shit out of it. Intel has always been about single core performance. So these stats are literally cherrypicking. Fucking christ, stop this fanboy shit. I keep a PC with intel for gaming and a PC with AMD for actually working.

>> No.62443577

this thread is pathetic
>amd wins at synthetic benchmarks
>synthetic benchmarks are useless
>intel wins at synthetic benchmarks
>ayyymd btfo how will they recover
the amount of damage control is off the charts

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>> No.62443588

>triggered AMDrone

>> No.62443589

>Not buying 1600 and overclocking to 4ghz on the stock heatsink.
>No delid or expensive cooler required

7700K BTFO by Ryzen 1600 in all titles at half the cost.
In productivity is does even better.

There is no reason to buy shitty LGA115x platforms ever.
X299 has a reason to exist, Ryzen NPT bug makes then good value VM platforms.

>> No.62443595

i'm using a i3-2120 right now
fuck off

>> No.62443596

>make a stupid remark about frametimes
>le xdeeeeeeee intel funny.jpg

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>7700K BTFO by Ryzen 1600 in all titles at half the cost.
wooow hold on there buddy

>> No.62443612

>There is no reason to buy shitty LGA115x platforms ever.
actually there is, the i3-8300 will be better in games (just because it's intel and it has a high clock) and cheaper than almost every ryzen

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>> No.62443619

After paying an extra $150 to delid it possibly.

>> No.62443620

epic xD

>> No.62443625

why would you delid an non-k cpu? are you retarded?

>> No.62443633

>amdrones lying trough their teeth as Always

What a surprise

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>being this buttblasted

>> No.62443661

>buttblasted AMD fanboyos

>> No.62443665

>b-b-b-but t-t-t-the m-m-minim-m-mum fps!
okay have fun with your latest stutterlake
don't forget to put the game on lowest settings and play in a 640x400 window to get those 6 gorillion fps

>> No.62443669

Enjoy your stuttering anon.

>> No.62443688

Not necessarily fake, for instance the result could be real but the CPU isn't boosting properly, it's not exactly uncommon for pre-release (or even after release with how rushed shit is) UEFI versions to be fucked in one way or another. Or maybe the results are completely legit and it just doesn't scale very well, for whatever reason.

>> No.62443691

Maybe you shouldn't talk about frametimes if you haven't got the slightest clue what the term even means.

Fucking kek are all amdrones this clueless

>> No.62443702

>Gives legitmate claim
>Fuck... he is right. I am just gonna post a meme pic like a teenager
wew you sure showed us lad.

>inb4 another meme pic

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>ye-yeah, hehe... bu-but-buttblasted AMD fanboys heheh...

>> No.62443707

How the fuck is this possible? The 7700k should have done way better than this since it has way stronger core? What am i missing here?

>> No.62443721

you're clueless retard, must be a bliss being so ignorant of actually smooth gameplay when all you experienced was the stutterfest that are intel's mainstream offerings

>> No.62443724

GPU's make more difference than cpu's, surprise surprise

>> No.62443737

Calm down, Brian

>> No.62443743

>poozen as amd tradition goes blows in ipc
I see you've never looked at any benchmarks.

>> No.62443744

Clueless about what exactly?

You have already demonstrated you don't understand what frametimes are.

Both the average and the minimums are higher in that graph, please explain to me in what world the AMD cpu could possibly have lower frametimes

>> No.62443751

you out of pics?

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Here's your future, Brian.

>> No.62443796

>proved my point

>> No.62443801


lmao Intel truly is finished

>> No.62443805

It's probably performance when all cores run at base clock or 3.7-3.8 GHz.
It can probably go faster with an OC-turbo motherboard or if BIOS disables TDP limits. And you have the cooling to handle it.

people will OC it of course, what will matter there is how high can it go, what does the paste do and so on.

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You sure told him

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>mfw this monkey eating favelado is STILL defending intel's disaster of a cpus

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Sure thing, Brian.

>> No.62443837

kek it's just the one guy doing it, too. Check out the number of posts and posters on this thread.

>> No.62443853

You don't even understand the difference between FPS and frametimes it looks like
>microstutters on his way out

>> No.62443854

Kek AMD is finished

>> No.62443857

It's the score that the canadian got in the store with a HP computer, put into their graph.

So real score, but unknown circumstances. The chips might have vastly different performance based on the motherboard, firmware and cooling, due to the incereased power consumption/going over TDP.

>> No.62443870

... Fucking AMD fanboys... Why do fanboys have to ruin everything. I knew this processor would kill AMD in single core performance. Fucking no objectivity anymore.

>> No.62443880

Oh wow, it's fucking 3% difference.

>> No.62443887

Stop samefagging, brazilian faggot. We know it's just you.

>> No.62443894

explain how a cpu can have higher minimum and average yet still have slower frametimes you colossal. inbred mongoloid?

you can't because you don't have two braincells to rub together, or two dollars so you shill poozen trash for poorfags who shit in the streets because they can't afford toilets

>> No.62443907

Keep digging yourself deeper into that hole kek

Tech illiterates are so funny

Come dude, spout more memes, I want to laugh

>> No.62443908

Yeah but most of the retards volunteer-shilling Intel here or in other places probably don't know what IPC actually means.
It's acronym for "muh Intel ST", right? Massively better!

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You gotta resort to delusions now since you know you are wrong?

>> No.62443917

he's talking about the stutter meme
minimums are an average as well

>> No.62443927

You literally have no idea what you're even talking about. You can't accuse a CPU of stuttering when the minimum framerates are much higher. I own a fucking Ryzen CPU but you're being a complete fanboy.

>> No.62443928

Nice inspect element, macaco. But you're still samefagging.

>> No.62443939

Pajeet BTFO

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Still samefagging

>> No.62443953

No they aren't, the minimums depict a percentile score not an average

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>being this delusional
>and still cannot make a valid argument against data

>> No.62443966

Stop samefagging.

>> No.62443970

Why is this anti Semitic r/amd shill not banned yet?

>> No.62443981


Also 6 million was DEFINITELY not enough.

>> No.62443989


>> No.62443992

>accuses of samefagging
>shows only one tag
Oh fuck my sides.

>> No.62443997

Fuck of to /pol/ cretin.

>> No.62444004

Shouldnt Apllel ship macbooks with ryzen cpus soon? Supposedly apple uses best hardware, and its obvious that AMD is the best you can get nowadays...

>> No.62444018

>implying I need to tag all your posts
>implying I can't read the number of posters in this thread

>> No.62444024

Apple uses whatever gives them the highest margin

Why do you think they waited forever before they stuck an oled screen on their phones

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>> No.62444044

Also if we're making minor nitpicks about CPU's I've noticed that Ryzen sees occasional spikes up to 100% on one thread in games. It's not too common but it happens, might be due to that rumor going around at Ryzen's launch that the latency from switching cores across a CCX is slightly higher than switching within.

>> No.62444045

Not likely, if Apple is moving away from comfy Intel supply contracts now, they're moving to their own ARM gear.

AMD almost got a win with Apple for Llano, but GF sunk it.

>> No.62444049

What's with these daily sour grapes AMD threads?

Are they still buttblasted over the disaster that was Vega?

>> No.62444052

Not him, but the minimum FPS is essentially a measurement of the worst (longest) frame time in most benchmarks. It's possible to have a higher minimum FPS and also a higher average but to have very large variance in frame time, which would not be apparent in these 2 measurements.

That being said, it's more of a theoretical possibility, as in practice it seems that low minimums which are very far from the average correlate with large frame time variance and uneven frame delivery, as one would intuitively expect. Basically, high minimum FPS is not a rigorous measurement indicating smoothness, it's merely an indicator in that regard.

>> No.62444060

>I've noticed that Ryzen sees occasional spikes up to 100%
Prove it

>> No.62444066

So instead of meming a theoretical possibility, lets see some actual evidence this is a problem on Intel cpu's

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oy vey

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>doesn't understand the basics of accusing someone of samefagging
>somehow one guys is samefagging for intel when two pro intel posts were only 27 sec from eachother
>doesn't know you need to wait more then 27 sec to actually post again
Fuck me my sides. The answers are right too, but you gotta be so delusional

>> No.62444079

>Are they still buttblasted
No, but it seems that you are, giving that you already posted over 50 times on this thread.

>> No.62444091

just asking because of hackintosh support lol.. would never buy any shit from applel anyways. They became 100% shit since Steve Jobs died of Aids..

its a literal nigger company which wants to milk their customers as hard they can..

>> No.62444092

You seem upset

>> No.62444095

yes, so not the one single absolute minimum value

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>implying you only posted those two times
topkeki you are one stupid shill.

>> No.62444103

Close enough to it though, some even add 0,1% percentile framerates and you'll still have people bitching.

>> No.62444114

It is a problem on i3s and i5s, I'm not going to bother looking up videos, but DigitalFoundry has some which show the actual frame time graph and illustrate the issue. You can find them yourself on their YT channel if you want to see, I remember some video comparing 6C Ryzens with i5s. i7s are fine and it's nonsensical to think 6C i7s will stutter, they will not. I would imagine even 6C i5s will be smooth, while they don't have HT, the 2 extra cores should do well.

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Fine, let me just record an hour of gameplay footage with MSI Afterburner, brb.

>> No.62444128

You seem buttblasted.

>> No.62444132

Finaly a sensible post

>> No.62444144

Go ahead, I'll check out the thread later.

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>posting 2 posts 27 sec from eachother
>Somehow it is me
Holy fuck anon. you are delusional.

>> No.62444155

About what

>> No.62444174

I don't think you know what samefagging is. Posting in the same thread multiple times is pretty normal, especially when there's some sort of discussion going on. Samefagging is typically when the same person pretends to be two or more different people.

>> No.62444178

>newfag detected
Figures it is an AMD fan afterall

>> No.62444194

>1600x multithreaded performance
>7700k single/quadcore performance
Looks like the ideal consumer desktop and 144hz cpu. Ryzen is amazing but because my pc is purpose built for 144hz I basically can't enjoy it's cheap, low power, cool multithreaded performance. 8600k and 8700k will be the default gayman chips.

>> No.62444214

This annon gets it
>1440p 144hz masterrace

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>No new post since 10:40
>anon leaves cause he can't do the samefagging argument anymore
>and it is the only thing he had left.

>> No.62444289

And even then 99% of the time poor framepacing is a GPU driver issue, not a CPU issue, unless your CPU is underqualified (Like a dual core) Capping the framerate at 30 or 60 with Rivatuner or your GPU driver is much easier solution than buying a whole new mobo+CPU.

>> No.62444313

AMD fags on suicide watch and don't get me started on draw calls: AMD "CPUs" are two times worse than Intel in that regard, goodbye heavily modded Skyrim performance.

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Mfw 1600x master race.

>> No.62444339

Yeah, that's generally right, I can get behind 60FPS capping (though it can give rise to some horrible tearing with no *sync), 30FPS though feels so stuttery to me that the "smoothness" of even frame time is irrelevant, the entire game stutters anyway. I'd say it's time to lower some settings or get an upgrade if 30FPS is the target, rather than 60.

>> No.62444370

they wont because 144hz is not the default refresh rate

>> No.62444487

Even a Pentium is enough for 60hz in most games. People buy off max capable fps. I would buy a ryzen anyway over Intel for 60hz. But people see ryzen at 115 fps and 8700k at 130 and think the i7 is better for them.

>> No.62444777

t. goldstein

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I had to buy a Ryzen 1600 because I'm too poor to afford an intel CPU.

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had to buy a Ryzen because residence insurance isn't covering fire

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>> No.62445080

>16 cores chewing as much power as 8
wtf I love AMD now

>> No.62445123

>R7 is actually awesome
HOW THE ACTUALL FUCK does TR 1950X consume >3x the Power of Ryzen 7

>> No.62445130

>This is fake right?
Seems to be off. I don't really see how a 1600X could beat a 8700K. We've seen Skylake-X beat Ryzen in raw performance when the amount of cores are the same. Now I have to mention that Skylake-X is an overpriced abomination and housefire yada yada or I'll be called a shill, but the point still stands that when Intel slaps the same amount of cores together, they still beat AMD.
Just wait for trustworthy reviews.

>> No.62445178

>muh gpu bottleneck
every time

>> No.62445220

It's barely 60 watts more at stock.

>> No.62445347

Turbo fag 3.0 to the rescue.
What if I accidentally run a browser+torrent client+music player+e.t.c. on my p.c. while gay ming?
Welp, this ideal sandbox that the benchmark shows collapses, since the turbo fag 3.0 doesn't like more than 1 or 2 cores to be occupied, so the performance per thread and the multi core one collapse to some 210$ cpu levels.
Good job retards, you are using a test case scenario that is not applicable to real world workloads.

>> No.62445382

>m-muh dorf fortress

>> No.62445389

All 16 cores are being forced to work at 3.9 GHz with no breaks.

God help you if you run 16 intel cores at 3.9 GHz.

>> No.62445453

Can all cores really be turboboosted to 3.9 GHz at the same time?

>> No.62445480

At least on AMD they can actually be locked and forced to stay at 3.9 GHz. On intel thermtrip would just shit them all down if you tried that.

>> No.62445492

no way, sauce?

>> No.62445510

thanks to youtube/twitch + AMD now everyone wants to be streamer.

this is somewhat a curse after all. giving those people a cheap an 8-core processor was a mistake.

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>> No.62445618

>just because it's intel and it has a high clock

Complete fucking retard. Only the K-series have any significant single core advantage over Ryzen, and Coffee Lake won't be any faster there, either. Since you can't OC them, they're useless.

>> No.62445665

>Shitty early access game pre-patch
>Over 144 FPS so who gives a shit
>Another one well over 144 FPS
>Game running on an engine from 2005 also well into the hundreds of FPS

Here's the actual video, too. Fuck off with this "no sourced benchmark" shit plz. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rnf5QzoLjG4

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>bragging about having to take the lid off your CPU to keep it from overheating
>posting MUH MANLY ALPHA MAN images to go with your shitty intel "muh clox" 4 core jerk-off fest

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That's slow

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>400 dollar cpu
>getting 10 more fps than a 200 dollar one
>intel drones see nothing wrong with this

>> No.62445806

Oops, I need to update my shit posting pics.
Got it stable enough at 4.5 for a run and it was like 2000 something.

>> No.62445864

yes, i retard didnt see the @3.9 ghz

>> No.62445871

>triggered AMD poo

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>> No.62447216

clocks. The raw IPC advantage of intel is 5% at best. Intel's single thread performance comes from the +~0.5 ghz that they have over ryzen.
This makes me think that the 8700k wont be able to have six cores clocked to more than 4ghz. Thermals, and TDP must be low. six core turbo is going to be around 3.9 i would guess.

>> No.62447218

>Everyone is now a multitasker who needs 32 threads regardless of their single core performance

Sure smells like POO in here

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>> No.62447419

Should I buy 7551p, Pablo?
I sure love compiling /g/entoo.

>> No.62447857

This is a nice change from the apple threads at least

>> No.62447922

The Cinebench results got fucked up for some reason. The CPU-Z results from later in the video are much more in line with what you'd expect. 40% improvement over the 7700K.


>> No.62448035

>4 games
Yes, that'll show them! AMD is dead xDDDD

>> No.62448129

>releases their own version of ryzen (higher cores, lower clocks) instead of improving their thermals and increasing their lead in singlecore performance
Intel management has gone full retard.

>> No.62448181

It sure does.

>> No.62448343

>intel 7700k to 8700k upgrade
50% more cores (4+2)
28% more performance (1230/960)
>amd 1600 to 1700 upgrade
>25% more cores (6+2)
>23% better performance (1415/1147)

fuck intel what are you doing?

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Crashing this company with no survivors

>> No.62448671

Intel got their own Hector Ruiz.

>> No.62448811

That score is about 200 points low. Must be a really poor ES chip.

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>synthetic benchmark
oh ok, I see AMD is getting better, but it doesn't affect me a lot. I use my PC to play games.

Now, post the gaming benchmarks. Oh you can't cuz you know it would be worst than Intel?

too bad.

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>Imblying the 8700k won't be slower than a 5hz 7700k in MUG GAYMZ!

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>internet of the toilet

>> No.62449701

If you want single core perf then buy a 4790k and oc it to 5GHz. Nothing newer than that cpu is going to get anything better in single core perf.

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you know its not

>> No.62450729

stop shilling for intel you retard

>> No.62451267


>> No.62451412

People with custom water loops are hitting 4-4.2ghz on the 1950x.

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It irritates the hell out of me when people look at something like single threaded performance, and either ignore the clock speed difference. Or somehow conflate that clock speed = IPC. There's also a fun little fact that most stuff is optimized for Intel, and ryzen is hugely underutilized.

Enjoy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN5mxFfkr7g

>> No.62451647

Who the fuck cares, really.
Ryzen killed every Intel CPU out there besides 7700k.

>> No.62451712

>GTX 1080
>Not 1080ti

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That's nice and all, but really not that impressive when you consider 50% more cores / threads, and 3 times the power draw.

>> No.62451814

The goal wasn't to find out which CPU or GPU was the best like a traditional benchmark. He was trying to determine whether it matters what CPU you pair with what GPU. People always say you should pair Intel with Nvidia and AMD with AMD. It doesn't really matter, some games AMD/AMD has an advantage, sometimes it actually hurts performance, depends on the game. It proved AdoredTV was jumping the gun by saying Nvidia was crippling Ryzen performance.

>> No.62451841

No, there was some driver issues with Ryzen on launch.
These were fixed long ago.

>> No.62451872

Exactly, that didn't stop /g/ from spouting conspiracy theories that the 1080 and 1080Ti were bottlenecking Ryzen on purpose.

>> No.62451902

>/g/ is fucking retarded and always ready to shitpost about both sides
Whoa, what a fucking surprise.

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>> No.62451967

I expect better

>> No.62451995

That only thing that will save this from being another disasterous launch is lower prices.
But well it's not going to happen because
>muh 60% margins

>> No.62452036

And a third the cost.

>> No.62452215

I'd like to see you get an SR-2 motherboard, and a pair of x5680's for less than what I got my 1700 and taichi. Don't forget the higher cooling requirements. The cpus alone will run you $130. You can easily expect to pay $300 for the motherboard. So you're at $430 for the cpu's and motherboard right there. My 1700 was $252, and the motherboard $190. You'd lose the $12 in savings in cooling. Even had I not gotten a good deal on the CPU and paid the full 300. The systems would end up costing roughly the same.

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stock is good enough for me. What do you do with your Ryzen 7?

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Game, record videos, video transcoding, streaming, benchmarks, e-peen. Need to get better cooling so I can actually max it out. Corsair gen 2 AIO pumps are terrible. Rads are nothing to be impressed with either. At least I got it for a decent price. It's also been a good learning experience for me and allowed me to have hands on experience with the architecture and chipsets I suggest to people.

I upgraded from an e5-1650 v2 @4.3ghz simply because I wanted 2 more cores, and it was cheaper to get the 1700, taichi, and ram than to get an e5-1680 v2.

Don't have any pictures with the AIO installed. This looks better anyways.

>> No.62452873

Will Ryzen 2 use the same socket as Ryzen?

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>> No.62452924

Oh lord it's Bulldozer all over again lmao

I remember just a few months ago when AMDrones were laughing at benchmarks that removed the GPU bottlenecks, just like they did with Bulldozer. oi vey it's a shoah

>> No.62452960

>It's okay when AMD does it

>> No.62453004

Well hello there Brian.
You know that your every post here speeds up HVM date for 7LP by a single day, don't you?

>> No.62453028

Sorry, I don't visit /g/ very often. Give me a quick rundown on this Brian guy, please.

What I know about him so far:
He's apparently well educated and upsets lots of fanboys by truthposting

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>intel 7700k to 8700k
$370-400 cpu, $150+ board
$500 min for anything decent
multithread+ is only pro

>ryzen 1600 to 2750x
better single core
better multicore
lower ccx latency
better memory support
bundled wraith max hsf
smug asian moms

>Desktop Kaby Q1 2017-Q3 2017 Never 4get
ever wonder why there was no H210 chipset?

>> No.62453410

Why are all these Intel fanboys defending the 8700 while it will get destroyed in muh single thread by the 7700k? They do realise this right?


>> No.62453479

tfw the intel shills are eating themselves now

also tfw a r5 1600x is literally better than 8700k

>> No.62453483

they have identical single thread performance.

>> No.62453521

Wrong because coffee lake can't hit 5ghz.

>> No.62453523

No they don't. You might be able to get 1 or 2 cores up to the same speed with Turbo 3.0 but you're not going to get the same single core performance on 4 or more cores.
You will end up with compromises compared to the 7700k while not being able to catch up with the 1600x and we're not even talking about Ryzen 7 yet. Covfefe lake is a failure, even for Intel shills.

>> No.62453612

No one knows how high it can overclock yet.

>> No.62453641

>overclocking 6 Intel cores with jizz
Boy it's not going to be pretty.

>> No.62453677

>Well I really wonder how Skylake/Kabylake with 2 extra cores will overclock. There's no way it could be any lower than 5ghz.

Maybe you'll reach 5ghz with 2 cores disabled. However I've got a feeling I've seen that before.

>> No.62453688

The typical overclock for the 6700K was about 4.6GHz while the typical overclock for the 7700K seems to be around 4.9GHz and 5 if you're lucky or delid. Even if Coffee Lake has a modest increase in clockspeed it should be enough to put the 8700K on 4.8-4.9GHz. Broadwell-E's 6 core could max out at around 4.4 and Broadwell had shit clocks compared to the *Lake series.

>> No.62453693

Why didn't you fuck yourself over and buy an i5? Nobody forced you to buy a r5

>> No.62453699

It will get really toasty though.

>> No.62453713

>128 vs 123 fps
>mattering at all

>> No.62453766

1080p doesnt matter

640p is the new intel approved resolution

>> No.62453772

Which would still make it a failure. The only thing Intel had going for it was single core performance. If Covfefe lake can't reach 5ghz the single core performance would drop. Don't forget that while we're comparing it to the 1600 the Ryzen 7 series will be it's competitors from a price standpoint and the 1700 will destroy it on multicore.

If Intlel wanted to do anything it had to imprive single core perf or catch up to R7 multicore performance. Since it did neither it's a failure (even to intel fanboys own standards which they still haven't realized it seems).

>> No.62453784

>forcing new motherboards for a completely new architecture vs forcing new motherboards for the gazillionth time for the same architecture that you've been rebranding and selling since your mother gave birth to you

>> No.62453801

How is a 4.9GHz 6 core a failure when the 1600/1600X are still stuck at 3.9-4.0GHz? And again, the max overclock is just complete conjecture at this point. Skylake-X 7800K could hit 4.7, and that was only 14nm, this is 14nm++.

>> No.62453812

Skylel-X is 14+ or ++ or whatever it's simple vt tweaks barely worth noting.

>> No.62453857

At least according to Intel's marketing Broadwell and Skylake are 14nm, Kaby Lake is 14nm+ (14nm with higher clocks) and Coffee Lake is 14nm++. Cannon Lake and Ice Lake will be 10nm, and Tiger Lake will be 10nm+. It's unknown of course whether Intel will be forced to do another 10nm refresh, they might have 7nm yield issues just like what's happening with Cannonlake right now.

>> No.62453892

Icelake is 10+ or Zen2 will crush and burn and rape it. Skylel-X is either 14+ or ++.
These are simple vt tweaks anyway.

>> No.62453894 [DELETED] 

>Wrong because coffee lake can't hit 5ghz
>talks about multi thread
>you're not going to get the same single core performance on 4 or more cores
> talks about multi thread
are you guys retards? I said single thread. SINGLE.

>> No.62453909

Nothing is singlethreaded anymore.
It's 4/8 minimum and I assure you 8700k will not boost to 4.7 with 4 cores active.

>> No.62453930

I just deleted my post. I had enough of this stupid arguments.
have fun.

>> No.62453959

>It's 4/8 minimum and I assure you 8700k will not boost to 4.7 with 4 cores active.
The fucking 7800K can overclock to 4.7GHz already on all 6 cores. What the fuck are you on about disabling cores?

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>> No.62454009


*excellent example, delidded with liquid metal, thermal interface and 240mm or larger liquid cooling solution. Professional overclocker with non standard hardware, your results may vary**.

**Overclocking voids warranty, Intel® is not responsible for any structure fires, damages to hardware or persons.

>> No.62454083

***Do not overclock.

>> No.62454099

Have you liked at how big 7800x is?

>> No.62454190

>higher IPC
But the max single core boost clock on the 8700k is 4.7ghz
It's a full 1.1ghz higher, that's not an IPC comparison

>> No.62454288

Going off of CPU-Z, clock for clock Ryzen has about the same single thread as Haswell. (Both are measured at 4GHz exactly) Of course Intel hasn't made many improvements since then, probably like 10% improvement maybe.

>> No.62454293

>it's only new architecture when AMD does it!

>> No.62454310

It's Broadwell on average.
IPC depends on the workload anyway (and compiler trickery).

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That's some low effort shitposting.

>> No.62454361

CPU-Z was invalidated a few months back
at the same clock speeds in cinebench (which isn't entirely valid either due to genuine intel) there is less than a 10% difference between a 1700 and a 7700k in single core

>> No.62454367

Nothing says "I have no argument" like calling a truthpost 'bait'.

>> No.62454382

Oh hi Brian.
7LP is coming closer with every second you wasted shitposting here.

>> No.62454407

The face of mental illness

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