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61765058 No.61765058 [Reply] [Original] [archived.moe] [rbt]

>22c/44t Xeons BTFO by stock threadripper.
Oy vey. Delet.

>> No.61765122

I agree that TR makes the entire Xeon lineup obsolete 20 cores and down if you don't care for support.
But Sandra is a really garbage benchmark

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>>61765058
It's selling like hotcakes already. That is crazy high placement for a $1000 CPU.

>> No.61765259
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>http://ranker.sisoftware.net/show_run.php?q=c2ffc9ef8eefd2ebdbe8dbefc9bb86b690f590ad9dbbc8f5c5&l=en
DELID

>> No.61765346

>>61765259
Nuclear clocks on the 7900X

>> No.61765788
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>>61765058
delid your thread op

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>>61765058
I CAN'T TAKE THIS ANYMOOOOOOOOOOORE

>> No.61766525

>>61765346
That's pretty low clocks. Unless it's conventional cooling. With LN2 that thing should easily go over 5GHz.

>> No.61766528

How is Linux support for thread ripper?

>> No.61766556

>>61766525
That thing is already north of 300 watts at those clocks

>> No.61766566

>>61766556
which is nothing.

>> No.61766647

>>61766566
tell that to the boards VRMs that resiliently try to melt themself at this power draw

>> No.61766667

>>61766647
properly cool them.

>> No.61766668

>>61766528
Same as ryzen 7

>> No.61766702

>>61766647
If you're doing that level of OCing you can afford to mount some fans or even water cool your VRMs

>> No.61766768

>>61766525
low clocks on 7900x with so many cores...

you had 0 on physics eh

>> No.61766818

>>61765058
>>61765144
SHUT IT DOWN NOW

>> No.61766828

>>61766702
7900x runs at 4ghz stock, a measly 10% OC is already pushing thermals, have you missed all the skylake-x coverage about this?

These things get so hot you can't even stress test them properly.

>> No.61766864

>>61766768
Yeah, they are low clocks. You can easily go over 5GHz with LN2.

>> No.61766901

>>61766828
Yes with air cooling or low level water cooling.

I'm not retarded though if I'm pushing 250w+ through a CPU and VRMs I expect to be cooling them adequately.

>> No.61766914

>>61766828
what about a 340mm rad at 30mm deep.
Shouldn't that cool it down?

>> No.61766935

>>61766667
>>61766702

and then your motherboard traces start melting because the board manufacturers were not notified that the board would have to feed >300W to the socket. Or the socket itself starts to melt, as happened with many overclocked 8350s when they were drawing that much power. 300W isn't nothing. No sane person would clock a 10c part that high. There's no reason to.

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NO IT CAN'T BE!!! I JUST MORTGAGED MY HOUSE FOR A XEON!!

>> No.61766960

>>61766935
>There's no reason to.
Says who? More performance is always needed.

>> No.61766980

>>61766901
480mm rad is low level watercooling? Tom's had to use a fucking COMPRESSOR for theirs at 4.6Ghz because their AIO amd custom loop failed.

>> No.61767015

>>61766935
Come on dude. There is being tech illiterate, and then there is this. You're going full retard.

If you want to talk about "no reason", there is literally no reason for a normal person to buy Intel Skylake-X platform. Ever. If you're not OCing one on LN2 for sick scores, then you have no excuse to own it at all. So fuck off with your "no sane person would clock a 10c part that high". No "sane" person would buy this in the first place, fuckwad.

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Holocaust 2.0

>> No.61767044
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NOOOO I GAVE UP MY FIRST BORN FOR A 22c XEON NOOOOOO HOW WILL I TELL MY WIFES SONS MOTHER NOW

>> No.61767052

>>61767015
No sane person would buy a xeon? Not very bright are you.

>> No.61767077

>>61766935
that could be remedied though but a water cooled cooling plate on the back of the motherboard

that case is going to be the EATX case with >>61766914 or maybe even two of them.

I've seen FX9590 setups run super cool with this set up with a max temp of 65C at Max OC
Just how much heat are we talking here?

>> No.61767080

>>61766864
you must be retarded

>> No.61767086

>4k usd server cpu btfo by 1k usd desktop cpu
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.61767092
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Let's hear it for the incredible shrinking clockspeeds. The 18 core CPU will probably only be 40% faster than the 10 core due to the massive disparity. Of course, it'll still cost twice as much. Intel!

>> No.61767093

>>61767052
If I wasn't bright, I'd actually be buying this garbage.

>> No.61767110

>>61767077
Bulldozer was soldered, this isn't.

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>>61767086

DELE DIS

>> No.61767124

>>61767052
Also, speaking of not bright. We aren't even talking about the Xeons. Nobody should buy those. Not even LN2 OCers.

>> No.61767140

>>61767052
who will buy xeons when threadripper and epyc is well above them costing less and having less tdp ?
yeah you guessed right the imaginery intel buyers

>> No.61767157

>>61767140
Intel cpus are battle tested. Fuck off goyim.

>> No.61767172

>>61767157
i can imagine they are full of battle scars and burned pins

>> No.61767182

>>61767140
Xeons are still prefered for rotational databases, EPYC doesn't fare to well there due to the MCM design.

Let's not pretend Xeons are useless just because EPYC is impressive

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>>61767077
>Just how much heat are we talking here?
We are talking "massively inefficient thermal transfer" levels of heat. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/-intel-skylake-x-overclocking-thermal-issues,5117.html

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>>61765058
>yfw Intel user
>yfw happy AMD can finaly bring some competition

Coffe lake 6c/12t here I come

>> No.61767208

>>61767182
Are these Skylake-X xeons or Broadwell Xeons?

>> No.61767221

>>61767197
I want to see some specs and pricing before I start hyping up Coffee Lake.

>> No.61767227

>>61767197
why not just switch to AMD?

>> No.61767234

>>61767221
It's another iteration of kabylake/skylake so clockspeeds should be good

>> No.61767249

>>61767208
Skylake -EP

>> No.61767255

>>61767227
cause he believes that intel will provide low tdp with monster high clocks

>> No.61767256

>>61767227
Because on the gamer side of things, which I mainly use my cpu for, Intel is still king.

Although I wouldn't argue that the 1600 isn't the best bang for buck because it is.

>> No.61767258

>>61767234
Except it has two more cores and the same TDP, which means lower clocks and worse OC because they still put toothpaste under the lid.

>> No.61767269

>>61766960
You can get more performance by buying a different part. You might even end up saving money by buying a part that doesn't require an equal value in cooling equipment. You might even end up saving money by not replacing parts every few weeks from the extreme electrical stress you're putting them under.

>>61767015
...you're seriously saying my argument is wrong by claiming that nobody is going to use these things? And I'm going full retard?

>>61767077
At that point you're wasting a ton of money on cooling and there's still no guarantee that it's enough, since the motherboards themselves are probably going to fail. Remember that the boards weren't designed with these parts in mind. Some of the boards may not be able to deal with the nominal power draw of certain Skylake-X parts, let alone overclocked parts.

Seriously guys, the board manufacturers themselves are upset they weren't notified about what was coming with Skylake-X and you think you're just going to add a bunch of fans and be fine? Take a hint.

>> No.61767273

>>61767258
the 7800k doesn't have any problems reaching 4.5 ghz either, so I'm not too worried, and if temps are a problem I can Always...delid

>> No.61767275

>>61767234
It's still mayonaise but now with more cores, it's also denser than skylake-x and thus will be harder to cool.

>> No.61767294

>>61767275
>it's also denser than skylake-x
It isn't, it's also made on a 14nm node

>> No.61767309

>>61767184
Thanks anon

Goodness its the damn TIM
For fucks sake who's stupid idea was this?

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>>61767309
>For fucks sake who's stupid idea was this?

>> No.61767361

>>61767275
And it will still be the best, because of the clockspeed advantage.

If you are looking for efficiency or low thermals, you shouldn't be looking for cpu's with those kind of clock speeds anyway.

To each their own

>> No.61767387

>>61767309
it saves them 0.1$ per CPU anon. Why can't you understand their sound economic decision?

>> No.61767427

>>61767086
To be fair, it's a workstation CPU.

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>>61767157
just wish they would test them before launch

http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/specification-updates/2nd-gen-core-desktop-specification-update.pdf
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/specification-updates/3rd-gen-core-desktop-specification-update.pdf
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/specification-updates/4th-gen-core-family-desktop-specification-update.pdf
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/specification-updates/desktop-mobile-5th-gen-core-family-spec-update.pdf
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/specification-updates/desktop-6th-gen-core-family-spec-update.pdf
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/specification-updates/7th-gen-core-family-spec-update.pdf

http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/specification-updates/xeon-e5-family-spec-update.pdf
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/specification-updates/xeon-e5-v2-spec-update.pdf
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/specification-updates/xeon-e5-v3-spec-update.pdf
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/specification-updates/xeon-e5-v4-spec-update.pdf
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/specification-updates/xeon-e7-8800-4800-2800-families-specification-update.pdf
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/specification-updates/xeon-e7-v2-spec-update.pdf
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/specification-updates/xeon-e7-v3-spec-update.pdf
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/specification-updates/xeon-e7-v4-spec-update.pdf

>> No.61767460

>>61767294
It's denser, 6 core coffee will be around 150mm2 at most, skylake-x LCC die is twice the size at 308mm2, and that's a CPU only die, the coffeelake shares around half of its tiny die with a GPU, so probably around 80-90mm2 for the x86 parts.
You're not cooling that at high clocks, no way in hell, Intel can't beat physics

>> No.61767476

>>61767460
As Always, I will await the benchmarks and see for myself.

>> No.61767521

>>61767460
you are actually thinking that doffe is actually a new cpu?

>> No.61767544

>>61767521
You're making no sense.

>> No.61767575

>>61767521
You actually think Intel would rebrand the same CPUs twice?

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>>61766566
>>61766667

>> No.61767602

>>61767575
twice? as far as anyone with a decent understanding goes its 4th time already

>> No.61767631

>>61767575
I don't think its full rebrand I think it might be a refresh of one of the skylake -x chip'sthere are a few mods I can think of at the top of my head that might help limit heat output.

there is a few ways to cheat pyshics its not all black and white.
But if they keep using that shit TIM they can forget any gains.

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>>61765058
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HUEMONKEYS BTFO

>> No.61767709

>>61765058
Because clock speeds are lower. AMD struck gold with IF. It somehow allows relatively high clocks while having shitload of cores.

>> No.61767715

UMA DELICIA

SOPA DE MOCACO


OY VEEEEEEYYY

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>>61765259
>7900X @ 4.52GHz

>> No.61767751

>>61767256
>r5 2600 comes along
>7nm 5GHz process
>compatible with existing AM4 motherboards
>Meanwhile Coffee lake stuck on a dead socket
Think ahead anon

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>>61767427
>workstation
>almost all of the motherboards available for it come with RGB LEDs and gamer-related names

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>>61767017

>> No.61767826

>>61767751
ryzen series would infinitely destroy intel if their next revision can hit 4.5ghz.

Zen's IPC is extremely high that they keep comparing 3.7 OC'd ryzens to 5.1ghz 7700k and the results are still hilarious against intel.

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>>61767449
DELET THIS NOW GOY

>> No.61767846

>>61767826

ryzen 2 will be a full blown second shoah if its on 10nm

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>>61767846
Zen2 is in 7nm LP.

>> No.61767873

>>61767790
I think we can all agree that the features of the chip determine whether or not it is workstation class and not the propensity of chinks to put LEDs on the motherboard.

>> No.61767887

>>61766864
T. Retard

>> No.61767890

>>61766528
>How is Linux support for X?

lol

>> No.61767965

>>61767197
Good goy, remember to buy a new $300 mobo

>> No.61767966

>>61767631
No. Skylake X and Broadwell E are way to big to be repurposed as a consumer CPU. Not possible for the prices. Their top of the line consumer CPU must be a fully unlocked ship, not one with 40% disabled cores.

>> No.61767983

>22c56t beats 16c32t
WOAH I NEVER WOULD HAVE GUESSED

>> No.61768017

>>61767983
It's the 28c 56t on top, which is Intel's latest flagship Xeon. Learn to read.

Also the flagship Xeon is only 15% faster, lol.

>> No.61768030

>>61767709
The IF itself actually has only indirect influence on power consumption. The MCM approach allows for better binning. It might be a bit more power efficient than intels mesh, but that's talking out of my ass.

The power saving features and process are responsible for zen being so efficient. They got their power saving features on track while saving what could be saved on bulldozer, and the process itself helps too. While it has somewhat of a hard wall at 4GHz, the sweetspot is also relatively high and the CPUs always operate close to it

>> No.61768037

>>61767983
don't forget >>61767086

>> No.61768042

>>61767449
Hoo boy, that gave me a chuckle

>> No.61768050
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>>61765058
SEGMENTATION FAULT

>> No.61768083

>>61768050
UMA

>> No.61768086

>>61768083
DELICIA

>> No.61768095

>>61768050
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ryzen-segv-continues&num=1

>As a result of feedback, currently working on some updated results. As some have pointed out, the conftest segmentation faults aren't specific to Ryzen, so updating the tests to avoid confusion.

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>>61768050

>> No.61768166
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>>61768095
EXCLUA ISSO AGORA MESMO!

>> No.61768208

>>61768083
>>61768086
>>61768166
Hahaha! So funny laughing at Brazillians! SO FUNNY LOL!

>> No.61768218

>>61768208
S O P A M A C A C O

>> No.61768225

>>61768208
Cool yourself you Hue cannibal glueater.

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>>61767449

>> No.61768265

>>61768208
No need to be this rustled, Joao.

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>>61768208

>> No.61768293

>>61768208
SOPA

>> No.61768330

>>61767449
Holy fuck someone got shutdown

>> No.61768352

>>61767449
OMG CPUS HAVE BUGS!!1!!1


t. Retard

>> No.61768414
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>>61768352
That's why they should test them properly before launching, so bugs like self destructing sata controllers don't happen.

>> No.61768431

>>61767017
oh i am lafin

>> No.61768488

>>61765144

>He doesn't know how Amazon top sellers works

Sorry to burst your bubble, but while TR is indeed destroying nearly everything Jewtel can sell, Amazon top sellers are based on total monetary value of sales and NOT total sales.

That Threadripper is $1000. If just 4 of them sell that's considered $4000 and shoots it up that list, and now Intel could sell 19 $200 chips and still be listed lower because the total monetary value of that would only be $3800, even though they're clearly selling more.

This is why Amazon Canada once had a build-your-own-shed kit in its top sellers for a year because it was $11,000 and someone bought it.

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>>61768208
huehuehuehue

>> No.61768539

>>61768488
Regardless the i9-7900X (or i7-6900K) which cost the same never even came close .. that I can remember anyway.

>> No.61768683

>>61768488
>Amazon top sellers are based on total monetary value of sales and NOT total sales.
Been said already. I think everyone knows this.
That's not a bad thing. Selling a higher revenue of an expensive chip is still huge for AMD considering the margins.

Consider that a 7700k sells for like $310 and probably costs $45 to make, and threadripper sells for $1000 and probably costs about $100 to make.
Number of units sold doesn't matter. Revenue and margins do.

>> No.61768693

But will I be able to use an actual OS like Windows 7 and not a malware/botnet masquerading as one like WIndows 10?

No? Then checkmate, AMD. Check-Fucking-Mate.

>> No.61768729

>>61768693
there's that 3rd party patch to receive updates despite running win7 on ryzen
but I agree, no backwards compatibility is fucked up.

>> No.61768791

>>61768729
>but I agree, no backwards compatibility is fucked up.
It's not that Ryzen isn't compatible, it's that MS is doing everything they legally can to make everyone downgrade to windows 10.

>> No.61768816

>>61768693
>>61768729
Can't you just do a transplant? Install 7 on another system, update it then uninstall all drivers and switch to the Ryzen system? Or if you have a working system just uninstall drivers and upgrade to the new system?

>> No.61768842

>>61768816
it's something about Microsoft refusing to serve windows updates to Ryzen systems apart from some USB3.0 issues and the like. Weird shit.

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>>61768208

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>>61765058
>>61765259
EXCLUA ISSO CARALHO!!!

>> No.61769014

>>61768906
Speak english, retarded pajeet

>> No.61769021

>>61769014
SOPA

>> No.61769023

>>61768906
kek nice shoop friend

>> No.61769122

>>61768906
Beautiful

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>>61767309
intel

>> No.61769625

>>61767602
minor and major modifications dating back to pentium pro, the last fully new cpu they made was the itanium.

>> No.61769774

>>61766954
Should've bought house insurance and i9

>> No.61769836

i7 2600k user here
Watching Intel burn is funny as fuck.

I work in manufacturing, and innovation only happens when things go horribly wrong.
It's a sad truth

>> No.61770378

>buys 4k xeon cpu with 1k server mobo
>get btfo by consumer cpu

>> No.61770497

I just preordered mine a week ago or so. Nothing beats seeing and being a part of wiping the smug off Intel's face.

What fucking AIO I'm supposed to use for it though. The socket is the size of the original Xbox.

>> No.61770599

>>61770497
I think custom-fit AIOs should arrive at some point.

>> No.61770614

>>61770497
Noctua is making some beefy air coolers.

>> No.61770792

>>61770599
>>61770614
Well, I'm fucked then because I was planning on buying whatever I need for the release. It seems nothing's out for the socket yet. I'll just buy either EVGA's CLC280 or NZXT's X62 and hope for the best.

>> No.61770883

>>61770792
It comes with an adapter for some AIO brand (it was in the unboxing vids)

>> No.61770896

>>61770792
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/cpu-cooler/#c=36&sort=price&page=1

>> No.61770962

>>61767846
what you are talking about is Zen+
it goes like this
>Zen (now) 14nm
>Zen + (next year or so) 14nm+
>Zen II (2 years from now) 7nm

kinda dumb that its not called Zen II and Zen III (like Athlons and phenoms and so on) but w/e

>> No.61770968

>>61770883
Ok it's apparently Asetek. http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/overview-of-compatible-coolers-for-ryzen-threadripper-processors.html

>> No.61770983

>>61770896
I appreciate it, anon.

Now I'm off to reviews and such.
EVGA's CLC280 vs NZXT's X62rev2 vs H115i it is.

>> No.61770999

>>61770968
It looks like pretty much all Asetek-based AIOs are compatible.

>> No.61771047

>>61770968
>>61770999
it's an asetek adapter that works for pretty much all AIOs. I saw at least thermaltake, EVGA and corsair ones working with it in videos

>> No.61771105

>>61765058
>>61765144
OY

>> No.61771109
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>>61770883
>>61771047
That coverage though.

>> No.61771127

>>61768208
7-1

>> No.61771445

>>61771109
Saw that video.
Only a custom copper plate will cover those chips.
I'll be running an EK block, so not an issue.

>> No.61771461

>>61771445
>>61771109
i don't think it's to much of a problem. If you cover the entire plate of the AIO it should be fine. The heatspreader of the CPU should be conductive enough to bring out most of the heat. And the CPUs won't clock above ~4.1/4.2GHz anyways, no matter how good you cool them, so it's not like temperatures need to be critically low for performance reasons

>> No.61771497

>>61771461
>If you cover the entire plate
The issue is, those plates only cover about 50% of the 2 active chips.
The HIS can't do everything.
Expect 15c+ increase in temps

>> No.61771503

>>61768816
you literally can install windows 7 on ryzen , its a bit finniky but it works just fine , 99% of the drivers are there

>> No.61771515

>>61771497
true, but it shouldn't be a problem if it runs at close to 70°C under load as long as the OC remains stable

>> No.61771526
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61771526

>>61771461
>AMD has clarified that two of the four silicon die are 'dummy' blanks rather than disabled Ryzen chips. They are included for structural stability. The two die that are enabled sit diagonally from each other to aid in cooling.
>sit diagonally from each other

>> No.61771557

>>61771526
doesn't make a difference for contact area since coolers are mounted centrally anyways

>> No.61771583

>>61771497
Even so, it shouldn't be an issue.
It's not an optimal solution, that's for sure, but it should be good enough.

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>>61771526
Literally Hitler

>> No.61771617

>>61771461
>>61771497
Just get one of the TR4 coolers from noctua with the way we know Ryzen OCs plus soldered IHS the 140mm noctua cooler with the bigger baseplate will most likely be the most anyone will need.

>> No.61771634

>>61771526
Who are you quoting?
Source on that statement?

>> No.61771655

>>61767184
Is that real?

>> No.61771678

>>61771655
Yes intel toothpaste TIM is that shitty

>> No.61771703

>>61771634
http://www.pcgamer.com/overclocker-delids-an-amd-ryzen-threadripper-chip-and-finds-epyc-inside/

>>61771557
Sure any HSF will do its job, but its job is made much harder when 1/2 the area is covers isn't the CPU
Sustained loads might lead to throttling but I leave that for someone else to test out.

>> No.61771766

>>61769212
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xah84cJwdxE

>> No.61771990
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61771990

Well, I guess we found out who got #1.

https://twitter.com/LisaSu/status/894291230011641857

>> No.61772197

>>61771617
If I'm not planning on changing coolers but I'm planning on jumping in right now. What AIO or Air solution would be my best sub $170 bet?

>> No.61772382

>>61771678
>Yes intel toothpaste TIM is that shitty
Wrong, the tim is fine.

The tolerances between the his and chip are too large.
A de-lid job removes the glue they use on the edges of the his. Therefore allowing the chip to fully contact the heat spreader.
At least do some damn research before commenting

>> No.61772415

Someone pull up the spec sheet of the shitty TIM intel uses.

>> No.61772448

>>61767197
>Coffe Lake, aka "You have a Kaby Lake and want to reuse your high end mobo? Fuck you, buy a new one"
>Not waiting until 10nm CannonLake for that matter

>> No.61772525

>>61772382
ok intlel shill.

>> No.61772593

>>61772382
Bottom line is its still shit compared to solder which doesn't care about gaps under the IHS and means you don't have to a delid job just to get around intel's shit manufacturing tolerances and still rather subpar TIM paste

>> No.61772697

>>61772525
How is pointing out an intel hardware flaw make me a shill?
Come up with a logical argument next time.

>>61772593
I agree solder is superior
My 2600k at max load, runs the exact same temps as it did brand new.
So the whole "solder cracking" is bullshit

>> No.61772911

>>61772697
According to one article (the only article that talks about CPU soldering) about CPU soldering from overclocking.guide.
Small dies can mean solder can crack over time if it is soldered. Which makes no sense for TIM to be used on x299 CPUs that isn't kaby lake-x.
Unless intel puts out some actual engineering data on why x299 isn't soldered, it can only be concluded its a cost cutting measure.

>> No.61772961

>>61772448
They change every 2 releases. That hasn't changed in the longest time.

The real jew move was Kaby-Lake X and the PCIe lane issue on a fucking 6-core CPU.

>> No.61773152

>>61766980
Fan speed?

>> No.61773182

>>61772911
Intel soldered hilariously small Clarkdales.
Where is your god now?

>> No.61773257

>>61773182
Not soldering on lga 1151 would be even better of a cost cutting measure since your going to sell so much more of them. I wasn't defending them when I mentioned the small die thing just going off the only data we have since nobody else seems to have done the research overclocking.guide has done. Even if it is research for all we know it could just be paid intel proganda

>> No.61773261

>>61772911
>actual engineering data
Would conclude they are full of shit.
So we won't see that data ever.

My theory is Intel doesn't want people to overclock anymore.
Inorder to better separate their CPU lineup.
So their temp issues are probably done on purpose.

>> No.61773289

>>61773257
The article was made by the dude that sells delidding tools. Shilling jew shit is in his best interest.

>> No.61774917

Am I delusional to think that Intel will drop the price of their 10- core any day now to at least match AMD's 12-core?

>> No.61775207

>>61774917
You are beyond delusional. Intel knows it hasn't lost.

Threadripper 1998X barely beats the 7900X... Imagine just how much more powerful Intel's 18 core monster is going to be.

>> No.61775530

>>61767017
thats obvious photoshop

>> No.61775563
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>Intel right now

>> No.61775588

>>61775207
>Imagine just how much more powerful Intel's 18 core monster is going to be.
>having to spend $2k on a phase change cooler to keep your $2000 intel cpu below 100C

>> No.61776221

>>61766864
Prove it.

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61776225

>>61771601
FUCK YOU GOY

>> No.61776244

>>61767449
POO
IN
THE
JOO

>> No.61776268

>>61772448
Considering Intel was scrambling for Skylake-X and Coffee Lake I wouldn't put my faith on Cannonlake either.

AMD awakened the sleeping giant, now the slow ass giant has to move and figure shit out with all their shekels.

My guess is around late 2018-early 2019.

>> No.61776303

>>61776225
JIM "joo ripper" KELLER

>> No.61776562

>>61771655
Amazing. I knew my Ivy Bridge chip was hard to cool past 4.6GHz, but that graph is downright frightening.

>> No.61776594

>>61767273
>>>61767258
>the 7800k doesn't have any problems reaching 4.5 ghz either, so I'm not too worried, and if temps are a problem I can Always...delid

Real talk. You can always make a modification to your $500 cpu so you can void the warranty and actually try out your luck in silicon lottery.

Remember to save few bucks to unlock raid support, too

>> No.61776612

>>61767449
ADD ME IN THE SCREENCAP

>> No.61776672

>>61767790
So what, it's not like you have a window on your case, do you, Mr. Adult NoGamer.

>> No.61776686

>>61776562
Oh that post was for
>>61771678

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>>61765058
>>61765144
NOOOOOO STOP BUYING RYZEN

>> No.61777766
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intel btfo

>> No.61777874

>>61777766
How can Intel ever recover?

>> No.61777909

>>61777766
Intel is literally finished forever.

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>>61777766

>> No.61777921
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61777921

AGAIN? INTEL BTFO

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61778184

>>61777921
DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW

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61778217

>>61777921
Oyyyyyyyy veeeeeeyyyyy Haifa bros this was not supposed to happen.

>> No.61778229

>>61772961
They don't change every two releases, they change every uarch, which happened every other release because of tick tock. Cannonlake is a die shrink and Coffee Lake is a refresh thanks to low yields. Coffee/Cannon isnt a new socket yet its not compatible with other boards for no reason. To add insult to injury Icelake will be a new socket, so Z370 will not be compatible with Icelake or Tigerlake. This is low even for Intel, its literally a one year platform.

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>>61765058
>>61765144
>>61765259
>>61767184
>>61767449
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.61778266

>>61776268
>late 2018-early 2019
Right when Zen2 drops! Making new stack of Intel products totally irrelevant again.

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61778365

>>61777921
>128 threads
>mfw make -j 128

>> No.61778873

>>61772911
>Small dies can mean solder can crack over time if it is soldered
You didn't actually read the article, dumbass. It claims the solder cracks if you subject it to extreme temp ranges (basically LN2 temps and then a fucking oven)

>> No.61778895

>>61775207
Retard. >>61767092

>> No.61779459

>>61777921

8 2 2 5 5

>> No.61780190

>>61779459
1
2
34

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>>61778365
Year of the Gentoo desktop

>> No.61780295

>>61778365
with ryzen you'll segfault anyway

>> No.61780303

>>61780251
>tfw you will live to see compiling programs become faster than downloading binaries

>> No.61780311

>>61780295
t. favela monkey

>> No.61780408

>>61765144
>1600 is $210

jesus fuck

>> No.61780485

>>61780408
>less than $20 per thread

>> No.61781473
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61781473

Well, it's now official. Intel 16/18 core clockspeeds are JUST tier.

https://newsroom.intel.com/news/intel-unveils-full-intel-core-x-series-processor-family-specs-14-18-core-processors-available-starting-september/

>> No.61781483

I want to vomit. How can AMD even do this? Is this even legal?

>> No.61781502

>>61781473
>2.6GHz
>TWO POINT SIX
Intel needs to shove bingbus right up Brian ass

>> No.61781527

>>61781473
>>61781502
>>44 PCIe
god damnit Intel

>> No.61781638
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61781638

>>61781473
>>61781527
That TDP, those niggahurtz, that amount of PCIe lanes.
Oh boy. Pic related

>> No.61782032

>>61781638
https://www.engadget.com/2017/08/07/intel-18-core-x-series/

>Intel gave us a small preview from its own benchmarks: the 16-core i9 CPU reached a Cinebench R15 score of 3200

It would have to be running an all-core turbo of 3.6 GHz to hit that number, which is way beyond housefire territory. That'd be higher all core turbo than Threadripper, which can
actually keep itself cool.

Either Intel is lying here or they're about to make FX-9590 look like a fucking joke. Again.

>> No.61782360

>>61782032
>https://www.engadget.com/2017/08/07/intel-18-core-x-series/
>$2000
>Built for fans
Well at least they know only fanboys will buy it

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61782799

>>61765259
well that's not that funny of a screenshot

>> No.61784698

>>61782032
>they're about to make FX-9590 look like a fucking joke
Liquid nitrogen as the minimum cooling solution.

>> No.61785085

>>61784698

At least the 9590 and its vrm melting power draw could be air cooled.

>> No.61786770

Glad to have you back in the game, AMD.

>> No.61787257

>>61778365
unless you have a FUCKHUEG project that would be useless. Good for batch cross compiling though.

>> No.61787654

>>61787257
> unless you have a FUCKHUEG project that would be useless. Good for batch cross compiling though.

this is pretty much exactly why I want one of these guys. I feel like it would make using Gentoo actually reasonable, since you compile E V E R Y T H I N G from source by default. and it's fucking slow, I ain't got time for that

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>>61784698
Looks like that might end up being true. It really is 3.6 GHz all core turbo. Temps are going to be insane on this thing.

http://www.pcgamer.com/full-details-for-intels-core-i9-processor-lineup/

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61788058

>>61787953
Is Intel insane?

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61788107

>>61788058
I'm honestly afraid this thing is going to be hitting 75-80c at stock under non-synthetic load, even when using watercooling. Like seriously. What the fuck. If they don't solder this thing, it's going to be near impossible to cool.

>The green slider is for air cooling, red is for the Cooler Master Liquid 240 while blue is for the Corsair H110.

>> No.61788156

>>61788107
It's prescHOT all over again. Looks like Delta fans will be getting a bit more business
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Dcj7tB4NCk

>> No.61788587

>>61765144
>$1000$ cpu
It's actually 899$

>> No.61788597

>>61788587
Where can you buy it for that price?

>> No.61788700

>>61765058
They literally glued 2 Ryzen 1800X CPU's together, this means 4 CCXs of which 2 already introduce latency, now this would be fine if they didn't sell it for the gayming market.
Simply look at the motherboards, all ROG Aorous RGB faggot shit.

>> No.61788711

>>61788107
>The green slider is for air cooling, red is for the Cooler Master Liquid 240 while blue is for the Corsair H110.

Fucking hysterical

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>>61788700

>> No.61788758

>>61788729
I see only two dies glued together. Where are other two?

>> No.61788805

>>61788597
After release.

>> No.61788900

>>61788758
threadripper has only 2 dies as well.. the other 2 are non-functional.. so technically they are the same

>> No.61789018

>>61788700
Use Process Lasso to keep your game on one of the two dies. Problem solved. https://bitsum.com/

>> No.61789529

>>61777766
UMA DELICIA

>> No.61789557

>>61781638
don't forget to shell out another 300 for a raid dongle

>> No.61789730

>>61767092
>i5-7640X
>4cores/4threads
>i5 on a High end workstation
>$242
>When the average X299 MoBo retails for $300
>probably gets BTFO by a $210 1600 on a $70 B350 MoBo

Who is in charge of this desicions? are they haveing a mental breakdown? NOBODY in their right mind will buy this. NO-FUCKING-BODY

>> No.61789749

>>61789730
It's honestly making me afraid that Coffee Lake is going to be another disaster. Especially if they rush it to market in response to Ryzen.

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61789859

>>61767077
>just put a water cooler on the backside too

>> No.61789879

>>61789859
I swear these faggots are going to have mineral oil cooled PCs making a comeback.

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61789890

>>61765058
OY VEYY

DELETE THESE BENCHMARKS NOW GOYIM

WE HAVE TO KEEP THE ISRAEL PLANT OPEN

SHREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.61790583

>>61788156
Holy shit my ears weren't prepared for that.

>> No.61791493

>>61788805
You're talking about the non-X version. I doubt the 1950X will drop more than $50.

>> No.61791765

>>61791493
They've actually priced themselves well on this one.
Speculative pricepoints on the two unannounced but they shouldn't be far off.
1950X-(16c/32t)-$1000
>1950-(16c/32t)--$900
1920X-(12c/24t)-$800
>1920-(12c/24t)--$675/$700
1900-(8c/16t)---$549

Unless there's a fire sale or it's like black friday, there's no reason to drop the price more than $50 for a regular sale.

>> No.61792738

>>61788156
What the hell. 99.3 watts input for 318 CFM?
The NF-F12 is 0.6watts for about 43CFM IIRC.

>> No.61795664

When's the embargo gone?

>> No.61795686

>>61765122
>Sandra, name of my ex gf
>Garbage
Sounds about right

>> No.61795698

>>61795664
10 aug - 10am

>> No.61796050

>>61777766
INTEL IS DEAD..DEAD!

>> No.61796846

>>61768050
Not a problem on Threadripper and EPYC

>> No.61797433

>>61767140
We run Xeon and Xeon Phis in our HPC at work
I'm good on burning down the building trying to make a person computing chip run a computational server

>> No.61797852

>>61797433
Are you the legendary retard stupid enough to believe the Intel marketing slides?

>> No.61797868

>>61797433
>burning down the building
Epyc is more power efficient, lol. http://www.anandtech.com/show/11544/intel-skylake-ep-vs-amd-epyc-7000-cpu-battle-of-the-decade

>> No.61797886

>>61765144
I'm just sorry for all the poor dumbs when they realize how much power and how shit this toy rupee is

>> No.61797890

>>61797433
UMA MACACO

>> No.61797915

>>61797886
Kill yourself BR glueeater.

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61798237

>>61765058
ONE NOTHING WRONG WITH ME

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