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Previous thread: >>60130032

IRC: #/tpg/ on irc.rizon.net

Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).

New to /tpg/ or looking for purchasing advice? (hint: use the advice request template, it makes life easier)
https://pastebin.com/nBqTEbHn

If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).

Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™

Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", ultraportable

Used ThinkPad buyers guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg

xsauc buyers guide:
http://www.dankpads.com

EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/JVwVGVTW

Helpful links and resources (Wiki, lookup tools and wallpapers):
http://pastebin.com/DYjEnVq1

>> No.60156826

>>60156775
Original OP image.

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>>60156775
HP EliteBook 2570p > peasant-tier lelnovo chinkpad x230

>> No.60157181

>>60156910
>buying an american computer

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>> No.60157381

>>60157345
>>60157361
Naisu desu ne

>> No.60157407

Anyone use their Thinkpad with an external GPU? Setups?

>> No.60157434

I own E550, i know its shitty, it broke two times. Now I'm trying to buy new Thinkpad and choosing between T420 and W520. I study as an software engineering in japan. after one year i will go back to my low-class country, Soo which one should I buy???

>> No.60157481

>>60157434
Are you going to buy one with a Japanese keyboard?

>> No.60157486

>>60157481
>iso
I would if ansii

>> No.60157511

>>60157481
It seems so

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>>60157511

>> No.60157529

>>60157511
That's too bad.

>> No.60157785

>>60157181
>buying chink shit

>> No.60157829

>>60157434
I have no business being on this board, so I can't provide any context at all. But the W520 is a monster. I think it's the last Thinkpad with the oldschool keyboard besides he W700ds which is like, a holy grail.

If the T420 offers enough performance for you then it's really only added weight + 1080p screen for watching animu, or smol and lighter. But a 1080p W520 isn't guranteed, even if common.

>> No.60157832

>>60157434
W520, no contest.

T420 screen is god awful, the worst out of all ThinkPads. This a bold statement and I'm sure other anons are eager to disprove me if I'm wrong.

>> No.60157945

>>60157832
I don't think anyone has such a gigantic buyer's remorse to defend T420/T430 screen. It's absolute trash, and it should be illegal to advertise such shit as "premium lenovo screen"

>> No.60157969

>>60157832
>>60157945
How does it compare to the W500's screen? Do you know? At least the 1920x1200 model.

It wasn't very bright. I had to max out the brightness to use it indoors, and it still wasn't bright.

>> No.60158033

>>60157969
You are literally comparing the best budget ThinkPad screens to the worst.

The W500 series screens reproduces colors better than some modern ThinkPads. They're still tn so you need to tilt it accordingly to see the results. Still better than the t420 screens which will always have colorshift regardless of where you look at it.

>> No.60158068

>>60158033
Thank you for the patient reply. And, I understand, now. I never really saw it that way, even though obviously when you give it thought the performance line will outperform the others...

>> No.60158745

There's an X220 grade A refurb 30 minutes from me for £100.
Has a 9-cell, 128GB, 8GB DDR3 i5-2540m and fingerprint scanner.

Worth it?

>> No.60158836

>>60158745
yes, check all the stuff in the used buyers guide in the OP and use Common Sense 2017™ and make sure you're happy with its condition. Though it really comes down to if you really need it or just buying it as a /g/ meme

>> No.60159036

Is there anything wrong with this that I'm not seeing? The bid seems way too low.

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-X220-Core-i5-2540M-2-60Ghz-4GB-160GB-SSD-Webcam-/382066483982?hash=item58f4efe30e:g:nwwAAOSww9xZBjtS

>> No.60159072

>>60159036
There's 2 days left. Most people don't bid until the last minut. No OS could be scaring away normies too.

>> No.60159098

>>60158745
Check for any white spots on the screen before buying

>> No.60159169

>>60159072
There is literally no purpose behind bidding any time except the "last minute" if that. You only need to be the last bidder to get it.

>> No.60159179

>>60159169

I kinda thought the same thing, but it's nice to leave it for a while to let yourself mull over it. Also to give myself time to see if all the cool kids at /g/ approve of it.

>> No.60159302

>>60158836
Currently have an acer tracel mate p253 which is alright. But i'm looking to replace it with something more robust and install OSX alongside for Fedora for work.

>> No.60159310

>>60159179
just don't be that faggot that waits until the auction is ending to bid.

over

and over

and over

again only to find out someone else bid lower than what you would be ok with but they still won because you didn't bid high two days ago.

>> No.60159420

>copped a used T420 for $250 bucks

I did good?

>> No.60159440

>>60159420
lol

>> No.60159457

>>60159310
Not him, but what?

Never taken part in auction before but what do you mean bidding over and over again? Bidding over your own bid? For what purpose and to what extent? And you would still lose the auction to a dude who bid less than you, but earlier?

Please explain... I don't understand why and how any of what you're implying could be true...

>> No.60159463

>>60159420
specs and condition? You could've probably gotten it for much cheaper depending on where you live

>> No.60159551

T470 or T470s? I'm looking for a 5-6 year investment here people.

>inb4 X1

>> No.60159710

>>60157321
>>60157336
>>60157345
>>60157361
>>60157370
>>60157379
You
Need
To
Go
Back

>> No.60159737

>>60157407
I do. T430, i5 3320m, no dgpu, gdc beast adapter, 1050ti, cheap 250w psu I got from a store.
Feels good man

>> No.60159764

>>60159457

I think he's talking about how ebay bidding works(it's different to how youd think).

http://pages.ebay.ie/help/buy/bidding-overview.html

>>60159036
>>60159036
>>60159036

I think I'll place something on this in a few hours if I don't notice anything wrong with it.

>> No.60159911

>>60159764
>http://pages.ebay.ie/help/buy/bidding-overview.html

Nigga no offense but I ain't reading that shit just to understand an out of context post by some arsehole on the internet. Like it's nice he broached the topic of ebay's non-intuitive rules, but that article's context being needed only affirms that his post fails to support itself.

Good luck ln the bidding though. Sorry for possible misinformation earlier. I assumed the last and highest $ bid always got the product.

>> No.60159950

>>60159911

It's a really weird system. You can place a max bid of $1000 on an item and still get it for $10. Thanks broski.

>> No.60159968

>>60157407

tried an egpu setup with my x250

doesn't work unfortunately

>> No.60160092

>>60159968
uhm, how it was supposed to work?
It has no expresscard slot and no PCIe TB. sooo?

>> No.60160136

>>60160092

ngff

>> No.60160374

>>60157336
So that's what they mean by "ricing it"...

>>60159737
Does it work with any eGPU as long as you have an external ATX PSU to power it up?

>>60159551
Regular T470

>> No.60160396

E470 yay or nay?

>> No.60160434

>>60160396
Depends on price and specs, but if you do buy it you'll have to stuff it in your bag along with a lot of styrofoam to travel with it. Or be careful you don't bump into something with force.

>> No.60160478

>>60160374
It should. I've heard of people using amd gpus (because nvidia should go themselves honestly) or even a dell DA-2 power supply or even high wattage 12v laptop chargers.

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Quick rundown on why to bid at the last second on eBay:

The practical effect SHOULD be the same, but the reality is different. Everyone has a set "max bid" in their minds, a number they don't want to exceed.

HOWEVER, when someone is outbid, their instinct (or stupidity) to be the winner kicks in, and they may choose to go past their previous "max bid" and hemorrhage money they would not have put up had you not bid.

By bidding at the last second, you give them no time to respond or think about upping their max bid. They wanted to pay $100 for an item, and at the last second you decided to put in your max bid of $101. If they weren't watching the item like a hawk at the time of the auction's end, they couldn't up their max bid.

The second effect is that a bidding war inflates the price. If they bid $100 while the item was $10, the item price becomes $11. When someone bids $20, the item jumps to $20. By bidding at the last second, you also remove the possibility of someone screwing you by simply guessing what your max price is, and bidding just below it to cause you to pay the highest possible price. If they want the item anyway, there is no risk to them.

>> No.60160555

>>60160534
Someone should make a site where all bids are effectively hidden, and you don't know if you'll win until the auction ends. Seems like it would eliminate this issue.

>> No.60160580

>>60160555
Not really how bidding works though, the bidwar is part of the fun for some people

>> No.60160784

>>60159737
tell me one thing desu senpai
since you got gdc beast, which PCIe standard is used? 1.0? 2.0?
I was told long time ago if you got the detachable hdmi cable that means interface won't handle PCIe 2.0 x1 speeds (5Gbps). Is it true?

>> No.60161161

>>60156775
Buying woot.com refurbs?

>> No.60161174

>>60160784
>>60159737
COME ANON I NEED TO KNOW
I'm about to order this module

>> No.60161194

>>60161161
How gullible are you? You wanna pay $600 for a 2nd gen X1?

Not only is the price horrendous, but lmao I can't wait until you see the keyboard.

>> No.60161205

>>60161194
No choice but to deal with eBay then I guess

>> No.60161211

>>60160784
I got the full gen2 speeds on my gdc v8.4 on both an x220 and t420. My guess is stability can be affected by one or many things:
hw revision. more complaints about v7
adapter type. i'd trust expresscard over bare mpcie
laptop model. imagine the junk the people having problems might be using
psu quality. get a da-2, not some chink atx psu
card model. i bet a lot of 250w cards coupled with shit psus caused problems
was all the shit grounded properly? 100% sure?
actual electronic interference. i also have a pe4c and it'd get fucked up by my shitty 60s kenwood amp when i turned it on 5 ft away

the old egpu adapters were kind of a dark art to get running and i suspect people would jump to conclusions as to the exact reason why shit wouldn't work

so it's not a question easily answered. it will probably work, but life is full of shitty surprises

>> No.60161282

>>60161211
ok, that's enough I need to know.
I just ordered v8 with 34mm expresscard module. I hope I won't have to play with DIY eGPU software to make it work.

>> No.60161577

I don't need 16 gigs of ram as an office Excel slave, right?

>> No.60161686

>>60161577
Depends who's paying for it

>> No.60161693

>>60156775
Recommend a business laptop for my dad under 700 dollars? He's moderately interested in the thinkpad meme.

>> No.60162157

I bought a T440 yesterday and I'm still waiting for it to arrive in the mail. Is it an alright computer to edit video or play some games on it, and if not, is it worth upgrading the specs on it?

>> No.60162616

>>60161282
+ 750Ti 2GB OC with no 6pin atx port
I really, really hope I won't have to play with DSDT override to make it work.

>> No.60162970

need a battery for my x220. someone recommend me one.

>> No.60163006

>>60162970
genuine 9cell one if you need more than 6 hours of battery life
genuine 6cell one if you don't

>> No.60163098

>>60163006
what about aftermarket batteries?

>> No.60163173

>>60163098
I've tried 3 different ones.

They are all GARBAGE, and even when advertised as 94Wh (same as OEM), ALL THREE were below 80Wh.

Avoid.

>> No.60163189

>>60163098
They're usable on the x220, in contrast to the x230, but they're usually lower quality.

>> No.60163263

>>60163173
i figured. the descriptions sound shady.

>> No.60163886

>>60163189
in x230 you can remove the battery check via EC patch.
Still, 3rd party replacements are utter shit

>> No.60164282

>>60163886
Whats the EC patch?

>> No.60164440

>>60164282
https://github.com/hamishcoleman/thinkpad-ec
instructions in readme

>> No.60164742

>>60163886
How are they worse off?
I'm looking at getting a 9 cell for my x220.

>> No.60164834

Is the W540 price depressed because of the keyboard or is the W541 overpriced for the same reason? There seems to be a ridiculous disparity on ebay for machines with virtually identical specifications.

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Is the X1 Carbon worth it?

>> No.60164917

>>60164834
It's the touchpad and keyboard.

>> No.60164950

What's the cheapest thinkpad I could get right now that wouldn't be slow as fuck with a lightweight linux on it?

>> No.60165004

I ordered a t470, my first ever laptop, from lenovo on april 25th. Said itd ship in 5-7 days. Expected to to be here a few days after my birthday (may 6.) Tracking says it'll ship may 10 and arrive may 20. I hate waiting for things to arrive. I don't want to sound like an impatient spoiled child, but I really hate having to wait weeks to get something.

Is there a chance it could be delayed further? What's been your experience with ordering from lenovo?

>> No.60165267

>x41t fluxuates in temperature a bit too much
>going from 50-60c while under load, fan revs inconsiently
>probably time to repaste
>take it all apart
>processor is on other side of mobo
>no fucking clue how to get to that side of the mobo
turns out you have to take apart the entire screen assembly to disconnect the wires in the screen, in order to unscrew the mobo and get to the heatsink and fan

fuck it, ill deal with a somewhat annoying laptop, fuck that, at least i got it properly cleaned

i also made a horrible, gross misake, while taking off the keyboard i pulled off the left mouse button and put it in my my mouth to hold it for a second
the nasty on the edge of the mouse button was not a pleasant taste

>> No.60165393

>>60164917
Huh.

Having never owned a laptop before, is that something I should care about or will I even notice?

>> No.60165491

yo, anyone got an x301 they can show next to either a w5xx or a t420s, I want to try and get an idea of size

>> No.60165558

>>60165393
Keyboard, probably not.

Touchpad, you really want to swap it with the W550 one. It's like $20-30 for a new one and takes a few minutes.

>> No.60165585

Is this worth it? http://www.ebay.com/itm/LENOVO-THINKPAD-X220-12-Laptop-Intel-Core-i5-2520M-2-50GHz-4GB-NO-HDD-Battery-/391751668376?hash=item5b36381298:g:aUoAAOSwfVpYq1Sp

>> No.60165607

>>60165585
wtf that's an amazing deal.

>> No.60165747

>>60165585
>Hard drive/caddy has been removed for security purposes.

What did he mean by this?

>> No.60165950

>>60165747
The caddy is made of very thin metal. You might cut yourself.

>> No.60165984

>>60165585 here.
What i am wondering is if it is worth the price, and if it is legitimate. Can anyone help me with that?

>> No.60166184

>>60165984
It seems legit enough. But when you consider that the battery (30$ or more) and charger (about 20$ brand new), you'll end up spending what a complete one would've been at anyways.

These are ok if you just need them for parts or if you already have the battery and charger. The HDD caddy and rubber is only about 5 dollars tho.

>> No.60166220

I recently got an X60s but I want to use KDE what's the best i386 option for KDE?

>> No.60166325

>>60156775
I have a stock t540p

>8b mem
>500gb rpm
>i5
>onboard gfx

do I upgrade anything in it?; if so to what?

>> No.60166385

>>60166184
Alright, I do not. Can anyone help me identify a better deal? Are there any good sites besides ebay to buy cheap ones?

>> No.60166434

>>60166325
Yes, the touchpad if you haven't already.
Then SSD.

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>>60166434
thanks, ill go in that order.

>> No.60166472

been a few weeks with the m14x glossy 1600x900 panel (LP140WD2(TL)(G1) in my t420 and yeah it's a hell of a lot better. if you can find one for cheap (a dude on ebay has a few used ones for $35 each) it might make you hate looking at your t420 a little less

>> No.60166782

So I fucked up my keyboard a while back (somehow broke a few of the keyboard connectors on the actual laptop) and managed to jiggle it enough to get it into working order. Now it's fucked up again. Before, the top row didn't work/barely worked. Now, it looks like the whole keyboard doesn't work again, unless I hold down the esc and ~ key together, then the whole keyboard works except for 4, 5, and 6 as far as I can tell. None of this matters with my question, but I thought it was funny.
I was here a couple months ago with this issue If any of you remember me.

Question is, do any of you know what would be a good replacement I could put in place of the pins? It's smaller than the tip of any pins I have on hand, so I don't know how I could fix it without handing it off to someone with actual hardcore soldering supplies.

>> No.60167064

Not really relevant since it's chicklet keyboard criticism, but on the front page of reddit right now:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CrappyDesign/comments/68n34l/the_worst_thing_about_lenovo_laptops_a_close/

And yes, it's reddit. Feel free to greentext the word "reddit" to remind me.

>> No.60167280

>>60167064
obligatory
>reddit
I actually don't mind the new keyboard, It's not amazing but not terrible, I've used, w500, t420s, x230, t60 and the t420 and t60 are the best

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>>60156775
Where's the BIOS/EEPROM chip on the T430?

>> No.60168657

>>60168205
http://www.ja.axxs.net/t430.htm
It even indicates a convenient shortcut if you don't mind mutilating it a little bit.

>> No.60168700

>>60168657
Found it.

Shortcut doesn't work for whitelist flashing I don't think, only for resetting supervisor.

>> No.60168984

Is it possible to swap a T/W 510 screen into a T530? Wiki says that both of them had the option of a FHD Touchscreen panel. Am I blind or is it real?

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/TFT_display

>inb4 shitty TN panel, git gud and get IPS

>> No.60169048

>>60166385
I would go for listings that are only for one single laptop, where you get a picture from every single possible angle so that you can make sure it isn't totally busted. Make sure it comes with a battery and charger. Even if it looks in good shape, expect the upper right hand corner of the display cover to be loose.

Might also try to avoid sellers that have two different listings for two laptops with the same specs. They can mix up their orders and send you the worst looking one of the two (happened to me). Dealing with that kind of stuff isn't fun.

Look at local auction and used items sites. You might find a good deal there as well (you'll also save on shipping and you can see it in person first if you buy from a local seller).

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Catching up on my capeshit movies, and found this.

>> No.60169489

>>60159420
I got one for $5 at the auctions with a broken screen, bought a replacement screen for $60 and fixed it then pay pal bugged and refunded me all $60

>> No.60169503

>>60156775
should i drill holes at the bottom of my x220t for better temperature?

>> No.60169512

>>60169503
no

>> No.60169521

>>60169512
why? I've seen some chick did it and the result was positive

>> No.60169580

>>60169521
Its a 25w sandy bridge processor, you could disable the fan entirely and it would still be fine, just clean out the dust and put some good quality thermal paste one.

I had a x200 with a broken fan, also 25w, it didn't give a shit.

>> No.60169715

>>60169580
what is your processor? 2520m is 35w. when i doing video editing, its going up to 88c. i dont like that number even though max temp is 100c

>> No.60169934

My x230 battery died on me, it won't hold a charge unless its plugged in now. I'm looking to buy a new battery for it and while I know not use a third-party battery, what is the general price range of one, specifically 6 or 9 cell.

Im kinda spooked because im seeing "new, genuine, OEM" 9 cell x230 batteries on ebay for as low as $15 and as high as $75

>> No.60169948

>>60169934
you can buy direct from lenovo, for ~$100

>> No.60170012

>>60169948

A 6 cell is $120 and a 9 cell is $135 on their website. That's insane. I'd honestly rather not pay more than half the price I got the laptop for ($210)


But at least Id know its coming from a reputable place...

>> No.60170141

>>60170012
and now you know our pain.

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Alright guys, need some advice.

Long story short, I shorted out my T420s i7 motherboard. It couldn't tell when the AC adapter was plugged in. So I bought a super cheap not working i5 T420s. Bad display cable. Put the display from my old system on the i5 system and it seems to work alright.

Only problem is that the fan runs at high speed. It starts out normal, but once it ramps up it seems like it can't ramp back down. Just a constant 4k RPM all the time, even through a reboot. Only way to reset it is a complete shutdown.

All the temps look good, nothing overheating. The power and performance settings in BIOS/UEFI are set to battery optimized. I just updated the UEFI to the most recent, didn't help.

Any ideas? The display is the FHD mod, would that somehow cause the fan to go full speed?

>> No.60170385

>>60164912
The new 5th gen ones look pretty good. Thinking about buying one myself.

>> No.60170505

Is the T460S worth $700 in great condition?

>> No.60170516

>>60170505
depends on specs

>> No.60170548

>>60170516
i5-6300U @ 2.50GHz
8GB dedidated wam
256GB SSD
Windows 10 (which I'll be swapping for Arch Linux so it doesn't matter)

>> No.60170556

>>60170548
I think that's around what it was going for new a few months ago with the EPP discount. I wouldn't turn it down.

>> No.60170875

What's the value of an R51?

Found two in an good condition today, what could I do with them if not worth selling?

>> No.60171090

My T420's trackpad stopped working so I opened it up to reseat it. The hard drive had recently failed and I had just replaced it. I reassembled and it seems the motherboard had failed. What are the odds I damaged it versus it having a preexisting problem

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Should I get a thinkpad yoga?
I
'm looking for a light tablet/laptop with ips and fhd display, also trackpoint.

AFAIK the first one had ghosting issues, is it fixable with a different panel? and can you mod a trackpad? it uses the clickpad I think.

Are there any other somewhat cheap business convertibles? x220t/x230t are not an option due to the low resolution display.

Is the thinkpad yoga 12 the succesor to the first yoga?

>> No.60171217

Ay auslads there are massive deals on Lenovo website ATM
Average price off is like $300-600 off. Check it out. Unless you're some poor kek who does the whole poverty auction thing.

>> No.60171265

X220
Core: i5-2540M
RAM: 4Gigs
SDD: 160GB

It's not one with an IPS. Is €175 reasonable?

>> No.60171271

>>60171090
BTW, the touchpad stopped working after a very minor water spill. I opened it up to see if it was damaged. After reassembling it took three tries to power on and the hard drive was totally fucked. I just want to make sure I didn't screw it up when I opened it

>> No.60171293

>>60171163
I have the ThinkPad Yoga S1 and it is fucking amazing. 1080p screen, thin and light, and in Australia you can pick up a fantastic condition refurb for $500 dollarydoos. Unfortunately the battery in mine has died now so I'm considering either a 5th gen X1 or a T470s

>> No.60171314

>>60171265

Also is the CPU on these guys upgradable?

>> No.60171326

>>60159420
No because it wasn't my T420s I am selling

>>60159737
Dell has an 8 pin AC adapter for their Pentium 4 USFF Optiplex that supposedly will power up an 8 pin GPU.
I've seen a few before and am considering trying it, because I get them from work.

>>60159950
you put your max bid and eBay will atomatically beat anyone else's bid they put in. They so this so that people could have a chance at it, also it could stop shill bidders.

>>60160396
Feel the keyboard of an E series and T or X series and decide for yourself.

>>60160555
Those are penny auctions

>>60161693
X250, X1C2, W701, S31, W550s, 850, Transnote

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>>60171326

Yo saucey.

Thoughts on the x131e with the i3 vs the x140e with the a5? I need something small.

Also you have chromebook pixel right? review on it? the 3:2 display looks appealing.

Also update your site with more ultraportables, subnotebooks, 2in1 tablet laptops,chromebooks plz.

>> No.60171403
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60171403

Just bought used - Lenovo X1 carbon 1st gen.
Core: i5-3427U
Ram: 4gb
SSD: 120gb and 250gb mSATA
Screen: 14" 16:9 1600x900
In really good condotion for 360€. Plan on using it for programming and school.
Did I do good?

>> No.60171435

Managed to win an i5 model T420 on ebay for £70 (~$90) with 8GB of RAM and no HDD/caddy.
My intention is to install an SSD, but I don't have any experience with SSDs since all my other PCs are still using HDDs. Any advice? I'm not going to need masses of storage, thinking probably 240GB would be enough

>> No.60171438

>>60164950
Probably one that's being sold for a quick buck because a pending bill.

>>60165747
They lazy.
They probably smash the HDD and taking a caddy out doesn't really add much value other than being another task.

>>60168984
I believe they have different FRU cables
I don't remember a touchscreen T510... Maybe a touchscreen T400s or T410s

>>60169048
>implying it won't be overpriced because it's local and local sellers 'can't stand ebay'
I know this well haha.

>>60169715
X220 is t for video editing
Get a laptop with better thermal cooling design

Additionally, raise the laptop and put a case fan on the bottom of it.
Works for gaming on a T60p

>>60169934
There's a person who sells a lot of 5 with 95% life left, maybe they have a single battery?

I liked them, though forget their name

>>60170176
Your operating system would be a big big help here.
Install tlp or TP fan control

>>60170875
They aren't that desirable compared to a T42p

>>60171271
Clean it with Isopropryl alcohol
Also it's probably fucked if you used it without completely drying it

>>60171369
2 in 1 and chromebooks I've had a hard time finding out specs/price. OS can be a bother to.

I kinda don't want to delve with the tablet market because it's close to the smartphone market which is extremely close to idiots selling, stealing and buying these who ask me for help.

I've tried reviewing the pixel but I've recorded myself 4 times and hate each one how it turns out.

2015 pixel is where it is at, better color somehow lol

Eventually I get tired of looking for ultrabooks and ultraportables because some can resemble pieces of shit. Like HP ProBooks, i have a hard time deciphering each fucking model, and I typically stay away from AMDs... Don't know them spec for spec vs Intel.


I'd probably go for the X140e if the A5 was 10% less powerful as an i3. Battery life will make a difference and I am presuming it will have good graphics
My i3 X130e likes to run its fan a lot

>> No.60171480

>>60171438
>>60169715
Ya i know it wasnt made to handle that type of tasks, but im trying to hold onto it a bit more before getting a new one. I'm thinking the best time would be around august to get a new laptop? T470p or m5520
>buying new laptop

>> No.60171481

>>60171403
Yes

>> No.60171510

>>60171480
Six months after a release of a new model, the late model is a good buy.

I got a refurb X1C3 QHD for $900 about 7 months they released it. Base model for the most part

>> No.60171568

>>60171293
it only comes with 4gb or 8gb of soldered ram right?
any wifi issues?
a quick search showed a ton of complains about ghosting issues.

>> No.60171704

>>60171314
No

>> No.60171763

When I plugged my X220 into a 1080p monitor, the screen was somewhat blurry - this was not the case with a T430 using the same monitor

is it that the HD3000 igpu in the X220 is not sufficient for that resolution? The screen blurriness was unaffected by having shut the native display off and only extending to the monitor.

I am not complaining or seeking a solution, I just want to know whether this is a matter of laptop size (if that even matters?) or if it is of hardware.

Would something like an x250/60/70 not have this problem given how drastic the jump in intel's igpu performance have been in the past few years?

>> No.60171766

>>60171763
it's software.

>> No.60172144

Anyone try streaming with OBS on an i7 3520M 2.9 GHz?

>> No.60172152

>>60171766
thanks for the reply, I didn't stick around to wait as I wasn't expecting a response during this hour...

if you're still around, could you elaborate a little? i don't mean that as a smart ass - i genuinely want to learn

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How bad is the x220 without the IPS screen?

>> No.60172745

>>60172685
Bad for today's standards

>> No.60172778

>>60172745
What the best place to get one? I don't want to get scammed :(

>> No.60172836

Is there a way to cheekily get the stock screen resolution of a Thinkpad if you have that photo of its bios many sellers use?
It says "System-unit serial number" and "System board serial number". There is also a "UUID" that seems a long string of unique characters. Can I extract purchase specs from this data somehowa. If so how do?

>> No.60173006

Got a X260 for work. Really like it, first tp I've ever worked with

>dat buildquality
>dem keys
>nice-ass screen

I'm red pilled my lads.

>> No.60173029

>>60157481
>tfw bought a second hand X201 when I was in Tokyo
I should just put it on my bucket list to collect used thinkpads across the world with different language keyboards

>> No.60173063

>>60173006
Everyone praises the keys if you ignore that the old ones were changed to them, but on principle I'm like euuuuuuugh...

>> No.60173144

Bought a thinkpad with a 7200u instead of 7300u. Did I make a mistake? I just mostly need this for working on the go and I don't have any use for vpro's botnet.

>> No.60173436

>>60170176
>>60171438
Original OS is Fedora. I just popped the SSD from my old system into the new one. Once I noticed the fan thing I threw in a new SSD and installed WIndows 7 fresh. It does it there too.

I think I had installed tlp in Fedora way back, could that affect fan speed cross-OS?

>> No.60173825

Thinking of selling my X220. Thing is when I bought it, I bought it on ebay from a random german store so the keyboard isn't going to make it easy to sell.

I thought of buying a replacement. Do I have to be aware of any problems with cheap replacements (I don't know if 40EUR is a guarantee that it will be legit)?

>> No.60173950

is the T460 backlit keyboard worth it?

>> No.60174516

128 SSD
i5-3320M
8Gb
iGPU
1366x768

What would be BUY price for this one if it has some shinea, but overall good condition. Is there way to get better screen installed? Would 190€ be good price? There's a pretty low risk it has CT on, but i can't check it personally.

>> No.60174535

I have a T420 and I wanted to setup an external monitor for terminal. Is there a reason I can't set it up to a higher resolution? Currently it is at 1024x768 and it is killing me.

Some info about GPU:
Graphics: Card: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.Org 1.19.3 drivers: intel (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
Resolution: [email protected], [email protected]
GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Sandybridge Mobile GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 17.0.5


OS is Antergos KDE.

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Is upgrading from an i5 2520 to i7 3540 worth it for $65?

I need you to make decisions for me.

>> No.60174912

>>60174516
The battery is in good shape (80%) and comes with 90w charger.

>> No.60175199

>>60171438
Well, that kinda sucks. Even if there was a T510 with Touchscreen (and supposedly there was, I googled it last night), they seem to be extremely rare. Even W510 Touchscreen panels are more common, but I think the whole panel is hella different, so it might not fit into the T530 frame.

Oh, doesn't matter. I'll get a FHD T530 panel. Thanks for the help.

One last question, though. Are there no IPS panels for this model?

>> No.60175217

>>60174535
Found the proper answer.
http://www.martinaulbach.net/linux/command-line-magic/59-setting-higher-screen-resolution-for-external-monitor-in-ubuntu-14-10

Posting in case another anon will need a similar solution.

>> No.60175809

>>60175199
Not him but will you use a touch screen for personal use? The clit makes operating the machine so efficient for your body it seems weird to me that you'd wish for that. In fact I wish my Thinkpad never even had a touchpad.

As well, when you say "Even W510 Touchscreen panels are more common" that sounds misguided to me. The W-series is a performance line, so it would make sense for them to be specced-out more than the T-series, wouldn't it?

>> No.60175990

Where would I be able to buy a replacement panel for my x230t? My current one has occasional lines running on the left side.

>> No.60176002

>>60169715
what is with all the memeing of hurr 90c is too hot? my shitty c2d toshiba would actually perform better at 100 than 90, and it did so for like 5 years

>> No.60176116

>>60176002
Maybe you like the hot surface to touch on, but i like to keep mine cool

>> No.60176151

>>60175809
Well, maybe I exaggerated a bit. Guess I'll just stick to the good old TN panel then.

>> No.60176249

>>60171403
>360€
Nearly $400 for a 2012 laptop with soldered? You got fucking jewed, mate.

>> No.60176859

new here, anything wrong with getting a T43 for cheap for the hell of it, how are they

>> No.60176942

>>60176859
it's literally ancient shit. Why would you want to buy one? Are you gay?

>> No.60176949

>>60176116
it keeps me warm on the cold winter nights

>> No.60176980

>>60172836
please respond

the consequences will never be the same

>> No.60176993

Why is trackpoint scrolling really jerky on Windows?

Let me explain. I tried both Windows 8.1 and 7 on my X220 and scrolling on Chrome is fine, perhaps not the best. But scrolling on other windows is shite. As in, I can't really control whether I want to just scroll a bit or a lot, it just warps around. This doesn't happen on Linux, but I got a battery to keep alive.

>> No.60177010

What thickness thermal pads are typically used for laptops? I have an older Fujitsu laptop. The CPU thermal pad was removed previously and thermal paste isn't enough. Just don't know what to buy.

>> No.60177089

>>60176949
>May
>Summer

>> No.60177117

>>60177010
there is no rule on that

>> No.60177143

>>60176980
You might be able to look up the parts it came with using the system unit S/N.
The machine type model number also defines configuration.

>> No.60177192

>>60177143
Cheers. I will try.

>> No.60177227

>>60176942
i just fancy having an old one with the IBM logo to mess around with i guess

>> No.60177245

>>60177227
>mess around with
then get x61. That's the oldest acceptable thinkpad to even consider using.

>> No.60177288

>>60177245
Not him but I thought the x60 was the oldest with the IBM logo. Is it too old to be useable today?

Don't know of the logo thing is true.

>> No.60177374

>>60177143
So I input the stuff on this page:

http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/

And it displays the right Thinkpad, but clicking "Machine Info" only displays a four-character string. I hope I'm missing functionality cause I'm accessing the site on mobile, cause I expected anything more than OS, model, and four characters of no use to me...

Is there anything else?

>> No.60177406

>>60174516

>> No.60177407

>>60177288
Well, they're usable for light to medium-light tasks, such as programming, web browsing, videos @ 720p, etc.

Get the T/X61p, but remember to change thermal compound/paste.

>>60176859
Well... Nowadays at least they can be used as Facebook machines, I think...
Buy it to add to that nostalgic feeling or to a collection or your own, expand it to its limits if you want, but don't expect to get much from it nowadays.

>> No.60177546

>>60177374
Check the parts lookup page.
It might not work for older thinkpads though.

>> No.60177778

>>60177089
I had snow last week

>> No.60177786

>>60177546
I seriously can't make this work. So, partslookup page:
http://pcsupport.lenovo.com/ca/en/partslookup

Inputting my "serial number" or "machine type" sends me to the same page as earlier, however the latter gives a confirmation prompt. There is a box below to input "part number". So I googled "lenovo thinkpad part number" and found this:
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-X-Series-Laptops/How-to-find-part-number-for-a-machine/ta-p/656753

However, it's outdated. "Go to Lenovo Support Site, click Product & Parts Detail on the left panel of the page". No such thing exists there. But it seems really generic anyway since the answer only leads to the "Hardware Maintenance Manual (HMM)". I wanted to extract the specific specs of a model from the info I find on the bios. Doesn't seem possible though.

>> No.60177799

>>60177245
I scored a z61p, its basically a t60p with a wuxga screen

>> No.60177810

>>60177786
I don't really know how this works either, it worked with my 2016 thinkpad, but it doesn't work with older (<30 maybe) thinkpads.

>> No.60177813

>>60177799
>google wuxga
>"The "Widescreen Ultra Extended Graphics Array" (WUXGA) is a 16x10 aspect ratio with a display resolution of 1920x1200 pixels."

nice

>> No.60177832

>>60177810
I was checking a W510, so damn.

That four-character string I mentioned earlier, by the way, it's found on the bottom of the laptop on a sticker in another photo I saw of it. So the bios helps you get that number, but I don't know what purpose it serves, really. Doesn't seem to lead to specs.

>> No.60178114

>>60163518 #
Own a T470, my first Thinkpad coming from exclusively using desktops (one at work one at home) from my noob ass perspective, here's the T470
>island keyboard is slightly frustrating at first but not a huge deal because it's easy to adapt to quickly
>keys don't give enough tactile feedback in my opinion, but I've only ever used mechanical keyboards so mileage may vary
> I live in Hawaii, so it's constantly hot as fuck and I haven't heard this things can turn on once, and it's never felt warm in my lap (although I haven't been really pushing it at all)
>the build quality is pretty damn good for plastic, no screen wobble or keyboard flex that I've noticed
>I've used it lightly for 3-4 hours for the past 4 days and I haven't had to recharge it (got the 72whr battery)
>just werks out of the box for Linux
Pretty happy so far

>> No.60178460

I have an X220 right here that I just want to turn into a fast shitposting machine with some virtualbox on the side.

I notice that many people are putting Linux distros on these. But many people are also complaining about battery life on Linux. Are there any fixes whatsoever or is it generally not good at managing that?

>> No.60178806

is getting a w540 worth it or no because I don't know shit about how the battery life is. I know some dude who has one and loves it.

>> No.60178920

>>60178806
Price? Specs? Also, it doesn't have physical clicks for the TrackPoint, but if it's your first ThinkPad you should be fine.

>> No.60178962

>>60178920
you can replace the trackpad on it right? also probably an i7 4700mq or i7 4800mq I don't care for graphics since not gonna be gaymen but having access to vm's and being able to to handle heavy workloads is nice since I travel frequently.

>> No.60179030

>>60178962
Yes, as far as I know you can transplant a Xx50 pad into the Xx40, but I'm not exactly sure how its done. You can most likely find it on Google.

Seems like a good find but you still forgot price.

>> No.60179068

>>60179030
well what would you say is a good price? 500 or try for sub 500 with luck on ebay?

>> No.60179393

>>60179068
500ish... Sounds a bit pricey, but if it's in good condition and doesn't have any details, or it's boxed, go for it.

>> No.60179441

>>60172152
I'm back
If it's windows then it's probably just that you haven't looked at the settings for the specific display.
Linux, same.
This is just going down the troubleshooting checklist, though.

>> No.60179509

>>60178460
we buy old used ones with batteries at half capacity, is the main thing. Not accounting for windows update, linux is at least comparable, but you can control it by using less powerhungry programs (tiling WM, light browser)

>> No.60179768

Thinkpad's are affected by >>60168584

>> No.60179792

>>60179768
>Nehalem to Kaby Lake are affected
Penryn master race

>> No.60180032

>>60179393
true but it is a w series with good hardware. What price range should I look for?

>> No.60180190

>>60179768
yeah that shit sucks. already got an rpi and clips, so i'm gonna neutralize it via me_cleaner when i have all day to sit down and really learn how to not fuck it up. will daily on an i5-3210m (no vpro) laptop in the meantime.

>> No.60180222

>>60180032
Actually, nevermind. For that price a W540 is breddy gud. Just save a little extra for the pad swap.

>> No.60180234

>>60180222
thanks mr triple 2 man will do since I plan on getting rid of stuff I don't need via ebay!

>> No.60180416

Just saw T430 go for 100€. Are they supposed to be this low?

>> No.60180445

>>60180416
That's a normal price unless it was an i7 / nVidia

>> No.60180496

I'm having issues with my W520. Every once in a while, shortly after starting up, the entire system will lock up completely. It will ignore all input from the mouse and keyboard, and the fan will run at the highest speed. It's very difficult to replicate the issue and system stress tests, Memtest86+ and HDTune (to see if there is a fault with the Crucial MX200 SSD) all turn up nothing. I'm really at a loss as to what would be causing this, any ideas /tpg/?

>> No.60180516

>>60179768
>Many of you already have expressed your displeasure over Intel's Active Management Technology (AMT) and Management Engine (ME) for various reasons in the past and now it's been disclosed that for years there has been a vulnerability in this business-oriented feature

Wow?

>> No.60180668

>>60180416
No, thats a really, really good price. Usually 250-350 depending on shape

>> No.60180824

Hey /tpg/ I've got a bursary for £900 from my university because I come from a poor background. Currently I have a 2560p with Ubuntu on it but i'd like to buy another laptop for writing c# in visual studio.
Should I buy a brand new x260 for £500 then pocket the rest of the money or put some of my own money towards getting a x1 carbon?

>> No.60180936

>>60180416
I picked up mine with an i7 for $300 USD, so I'd say you did well!

>> No.60181003

>>60180824
Use what you already have? Dualboot if you're not already running an OS that can run visual studio.

If you spend your money, you will stay poor.

>> No.60181461

I'm looking for a replacement screen for my father's t420s.

Will the 1366x768 t420 panels work in it just fine?

>> No.60181536

>>60181461
I saw people earlier ITT say the stock T420 screen is rather unfortunate. If you're already replacing it, if it's possible (and within budget) maybe you can get a better one? Don't know if they exist, though.

>> No.60181627

>>60181536
>I saw people earlier ITT say the stock T420 screen is rather unfortunate. If you're already replacing it, if it's possible (and within budget) maybe you can get a better one? Don't know if they exist, though.

I'm replacing a t420s screen, which is broken. The t420s comes stock with a 1600x900 panel, which is what many people upgrade to using a kit.
However, since my father needs reading glasses to even use a computer, I don't think he's going to even notice a lower resolution screen.

>> No.60181982

>>60181627
OH fuck, sorry, I didn't notice the T420s there.

I don't know anything about compatibility but I hope for the best for you all the same.

>> No.60182179

Cheapest business laptop with a fhd ips display and socketted cpu?

Currently found the latitude e6440 and the t440p, any other options?

Also any processor with a U is soldered right?

>> No.60182767

>>60164912
not a thinkpad

>> No.60182826

>>60173006
it's gook trash relative to earlier lines

brand went to shit

>> No.60182831

>>60182767
>thinkpad x1 carbon
>not a thinkpad
(you)

>> No.60182851

>>60173950
if you type with two fingers

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>>60182831
>gook cancer design macbook clone with Thinkpad logo slapped on it
>Thinkpad
(You)

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>>60182875

>> No.60183015

>>60182875
It clearly says thinkpad :^)

If you want to be anal about it, any lelnovo thinkpad is not a real thinkpad :^)

>> No.60183038

If it has a chiclet keyboard it's not a real thinkpad. Faggots on wannabe Macbooks be mad.

t. x220 owner currently having an orgasm typing on my glorious keyboard.

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>>60183015
denial (^:

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>>60183061

>> No.60183076

>>60157434
>student
get the X line
your back will thank you later

>> No.60183102

>>60183076
X tablet, even better
best screen option, great reading/note device

>> No.60183123

>>60166782
thanks for sharing

>> No.60183139

>>60183038
but anon the x220 has shitty build quality compared to real thinkpads

>> No.60183178

>>60183061
not denial, just the truth :^)

>>60183038
>x220
chinkshit :^)

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>>60183075

>> No.60183227
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60183227

>trying to decide between a brand new PC or a thinkpad
>dont really play vidya and need it portable
>already have a T420
>but want an IPS screen
>but dont want to waste money

worst feel

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>>60183190

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>>60183334
>>60183190
>>60183075
>>60183061
>>60182917
>>60182875
they all say thinkpad, contain your autism or you might get your jimmies rustled even more :^(

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>>60183395
this one too

>> No.60183427

>>60183408
this one was a beauty

>> No.60183429

>>60183395
You're right, they're all """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Thinkpads"""""""""""""""""""""""

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60183461

>>60183408
>>60183429
I know it makes you butthurt as fuck but they are

>> No.60183591

>>60173436
God dammit why

>> No.60183637

>>60183408
How do you caps lock on that?

>> No.60183897

Ok, /g/, a while ago I revived an old thinkpad that was given to my dad by the company he works for some years ago. It didn't even boot, and he was using a new one anyway.
The model is R51. I replaced the hdd, which was dead, and prevented it from booting. Now it has a 60gb ide one. I also disassembled it and replaced the cmos battery, which was dead as well. I bought a new battery and two 1GB sticks of ram, replacing the original 1x512MB. I did a fresh install of Windows XP, not the original one but a lightweight version.
Did I do good? Do you have any advice? Is it even a good model to begin with? I don't really know what to use it for, other than as a backup laptop in case my first laptop dies.
I was thinking of a dual boot. Maybe linux or W7 32bit. I found some drivers for the latter. What do you think?

>> No.60184601

>>60183897
throw it in the garbage bin.

>> No.60184894

>>60184601
Fuck off.

>>60183897
You did fine.

>> No.60184980

>>60183897
It's a nice to-have in a pinch.
Your options are:
-Xubuntu
- Lubuntu
- Ubuntu MATE
- Windows XP
- Windows 7
- If you want to risk it, Windows 10 LTSB, but I'm not sure if it will handle it.

>>60184601
How about you throw yourself on the garbage bin?

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>>60183897
That's pretty shitty, I don't know how you live with yourself.

>> No.60185332

>>60184894
>>60184980
it's literally fucking obsolete, piss off.

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>>60184894
Thanks.

>>60184980
Lubuntu was actually the first thing I put on it before downloading all the drivers for XP. I had to use an older version because it gave me an error with the newer ones. It was slow as fuck, but it still had the original meager ram. I'll probably try again with the improved ram.
I'm not touching W10. Not even in my first laptop, I'll stick with 7 until the end.
I'll probably go for Lubuntu/WinXP.
Yeah, it's shit, I figured as much. But it was there collecting dust, and now it works again, for all it's worth. I got the hdd for free, paid 10€ for the ram, 20€ for the battery, 1€ for the cmos battery and an hour or so of my time to fix everything. Could've been worse.

>>60185009
I have no idea either.

>> No.60185992

Are used X1 Carbons worth buying as well? Can't really find any info about them in the OP links.

>> No.60186019

>>60185332
1st day on gee?

>> No.60186142

>>60185992
I bought a refurbished 1st gen X1 carbon 3 years ago and have been using it as my main laptop since then without any real problems. It only has a 128GB SSD in it so I've bought a 128GB SD card that I keep in it for more storage space, the 4GB of soldered RAM is kind of a bummer but I only run Linux (Arch with LXQt) on it these days so I don't really need any more than that.

If I had the chance to go back in time and do it over again I might purchase a x220 or x230 instead but I do like the larger screen on the X1 Carbon.

>> No.60186183

>>60185992
the bigger resolution ips display is the GOAT.

>> No.60186244

Got a p51 today with Xeon e3 1505, quadro m2200m, 16GB ECC and 4k display. Ships next week.

Did I do good /g/?

>> No.60186307

>>60186244
>xeon
>only16gb of ram
delete yourself

>> No.60186335

>>60186307
I'll just download more ram when I get it :^)

>> No.60186403

I've got an X220 and I'm thinking of finally installing some linux distribution on it. I mainly use if for porn, shitposting, some programming. I eventually want to get a comfy job as a sysadmin too. Which distro should I go for?

>> No.60186553

>>60183102
Watch out, try to it from someone who currently owns it, not a refurbisher.
They are plagued with phantom touch issues.
I would know.

>> No.60186888

>>60186553
it's definitely shit quality as a tablet device compared to expensive true tablet options but it's still usable for the most part

input lag is bearable but depends on OS and program as well

have the last gen of T line

>> No.60186915

>>60186553
this, get the yoga 12 or 14

>> No.60187243

>>60185735
Nah dude you did a solid job restoring it. I'm with you on 10, and dual-booting XP/your distro of choice will make it a nice backup if for nothing but getting online in a pinch.

>> No.60187629

>>60186244
>16 GB ECC
Again, what was the function of ECC?

>> No.60187701

Can't wait to get my first ThinkPad brehs. Looking to get an X1 Carbon. I can imagine slicing bitches heads off with its edges.

>> No.60187883

(You) don't need it, you already have all the edges you need.

>> No.60187989

Could somebody recommend me a decent thinkpad, mainly for university but not limited to that. I am going for CompSci so I will mostly write code on it. On weekends it should at least be able to let me play a round of lol or wow (no hate plz)
What I am really looking for is a maximum of battery life, 12 hours text editing is a must. I really hate it to be bound to rooms or having the hassle to find a free plug.
I think I don't want to spend more than 350 on it, because if not included, i want to buy the bigger battery.
Used and refurbished are definitely an option, even though i'd love to be able to buy a new one.
I already read some reviews and some suggest the t440 or its relatives, 's' and 'p'. Are they any good? /tpg/ seems to like t470 quite a lot, is it better?
Additionally, I'm a eurofag, so can anyone suggest a place to buy a thinkpad where i can skip 20+$ delivery?

>> No.60188406

>>60187989
euros get fucked no matter what. IMHO you would be best served by buying a ~$125 X220, a brand new battery from lenovo for about the same, and spend the last hundred on a large and reputable battery bank.
New models (**70) are upwards of $5-700.

>> No.60188426

What are good thermal pads to get for Thinkpads and laptops in general? Is just buying the cheapest off of ebay going to be fine?

>> No.60188434

>>60188406
I should probably add
>euros get fucked
on ebay which is all I know of to buy used stuff.
>prices
not including shipping.

>> No.60188912

>>60188406
>>60188434
thanks for the suggestion, you're right, the x220 seems really nice and solid. Do you own one yourself? If so, how far do you come with your battery? (without powerbank) Any tips on what to pay attention to when buying for this specific model?
well then they should fuck me..

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>>60183408
>>60183334
>>60183190
>>60183061
>>60182917
>>60182875

>> No.60189149

What are /g/'s thoughts on the Ideapads? Are the essentially just a newer version of thinkpad?

Got ~450 AUD to drop on a laptop and I can get a decent ideapad 110 for around that mark.. Gonna get a mate to chuck an ssd in for me and bobs your uncle... Thoughts?

>> No.60189261

>>60171326
it's called Dell DA2. It's 220W, so if you want a better card then you have to use ATX psu anyway.

>> No.60189282
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60189282

Best thinkpad ever.
You don't have to deal with it.
Plus you can upgrade AMD E350 motherboard to Intel i3-380um one from Edge 11.

>> No.60189541

>>60186335
increasing the swap will do
you cant download ram

>> No.60189647

>>60189149
Ideapads are basically the consumer-grade Thinkpads, meaning they have shit build quality and shit support plus they all have pre-installed spyware in them. Just get a Thinkpad and upgrade it.

>> No.60189705

>>60189282
Redpill on it, what's good about it?

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Thinking of getting a T470 because I'm getting real fucking tired of lugging around my T440p

Is now a good time to upgrade?

>> No.60189720

>>60189705
it's a 11,6" netbook with good battery life and god tier trackpoint, like every thinkpad.

>> No.60189893

>>60156775

X60s MASTERRACE Reporting in

>> No.60190218

Is the hd3000 in x220 insufficient for CAD software? I tried AutoCAD 2017 but it was very laggy. Should I go for an earlier version? I don't need to do very complicated stuff

>> No.60190299

>>60189893
What OS do you use on your X60s?
I own a X61 currently running FreeBSD (wich runs pretty flawless this far) till my SSD arrives
not sure what I will install

>> No.60190991

>>60189541
>being this new

>> No.60191101

>>60187629
4k video editing

>> No.60191591

>>60188912
X220 can also get a slice battery for additional battery life on top of the standard battery.

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anyone built a custom kernel for the x220? I feel like getting into kernel autism but it's all super overwhelming, I'd like to follow in some footsteps to get my bearings.

>> No.60191720

>>60189714
Please respond

I'm also thinking about that retro thinkpad they're supposedly releasing but I'm not sure if that will be worth it in the end

>> No.60191799

>>60189647

Thanks for your reply anon.

Been looking at the buyers guide, and ive found 2 appealing options:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-i5-2-5GHz-4GB-120GB-SSD-NVIDIA-4200m-14-1600x900-Win-10-64-/142251122234?hash=item211ed3de3a:g:nPwAAOSwt5hYgXB8

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-14-320-GB-Core-i5-2-5-MHz-8GB-WIN-10-Docking-Station-/152529470680?hash=item23837704d8:g:KGcAAOSw~y9ZAocH

Which of these should I go for? Seems like the $300 one is a much better deal unless there's something i'm missing?

>> No.60192010

>>60191799
If I were you, I'd go with the 300$ one. Pretty decent for something with a 1600x900 screen, discrete graphics, and an SSD. It's well-specced for the price.
The other one's too pricey for what you get, HDD instead of an SSD, unknown screen resolution though.

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Asked advice here about two to three weeks ago about buying an X220, thank you /tpg/.

>> No.60192303

>>60192010

the only other thing would be the "click & collect at woolworths" thing, suggesting it may have been passed through some corporate hands, do you think that'd be any cause for concern?

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is the t430(s) i5 undervoltable ?

>> No.60192512

>>60192303
thats standard on lots of ebay shit now, idk why but you can get anything posted to woolworths, probably because people are sick of aus post not delivery parcels

>> No.60192537

>>60192512

So you reckon it'd be quicker to get it sent to a woolworths? I kinda need the machine ASAP for uni n stuff

>> No.60192559

>>60192537
no idea mate i've never done it, I live in an apartment complex in the CBD so I get shit pronto, but when I lived in the burbs sometimes the cunt in the van couldn't be arsed to come knock on the door so they just leave that note.

probably about the same either way.

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>>60192495
IIRC you can, it's just really, really involved.

The real question is why though. You don't see the massive gains in battery life like you would out of a Penryn chip. Modern i5/i7s are already a billion times more energy efficient and sip power at idle.

You're really better off just setting standard power saving tools to cap CPU usage, screen brightness, wifi strength, turn off turbo, etc.

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>>60192586
>You're really better off just setting standard power saving tools to cap CPU usage, screen brightness, wifi strength, turn off turbo, etc.

thanks for the input, i guess you have a point. I've already done all of these, just not the wifi strength. I was looking for something else to fool around with.

>> No.60193389

>>60192586
By "modern i5/i7s" you definitely exclude the 1st gen i5s and i7s then, right?

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>>60156775
Bye NSA.

>> No.60193497

Does turning off cores improve battery life?

>> No.60193501

>>60193482
>he thinks that disabling it actually makes a difference

good goy

>> No.60193583

>>60193501
>He didn't disable it via BIOS flash

good goy

>> No.60194093

Sup, I'm new to /tpg/. I just came here looking for some advice cause I'm about to replace my shitty hp laptop.

I've got 3 options:
T440 - 300€
T440s - 385€
X260 - 375€

All of these are used, I live in a shitty country so ordering anything online is too expensive.

Which one would you guys recommend?
Feel free to recommend models that I haven't listed, I'll try to see if I can buy them used in my country. Please just keep it below 15.6 inches. I'm looking for something portable and powerful enough to use for work. My current laptop is utter shit and I can only use it for web browsing.

>> No.60194191

>>60194093
From these 3 options, the X260

For other options, see if you can get good prices for any of these:
T420
T430
X220
X230

>> No.60194263

>>60194191
Okay, thanks!

I'll see if I can get any of those models you listed

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>>60193501
>>60193583

>> No.60194395

>>60194263
Sure

The reasons I ignored the T440(s):
I have one that I use for work. The touchpad really isn't that good, and 2 USB ports for the 14" size isn't ideal (X260 has 3). I use mine mostly connected to a docking so it's fine, but if you're planning to use it as a portable, it's not ideal

As for the other models, a few things to note:
T420 and X220 don't have USB 3.0 ports (except for the i7 versions)
T430 and X230 have one (if I remember correctly)

For the older models, you may want to look into getting an SSD (X260 should have that as standard)


Good luck finding your next machine, anon

>> No.60194446

My T530 arrives either today or tomorrow by night.
The seller said that there are no BIOS passwords or Computrace, so, what else should I check for? I already know that I should change thermal compound.

>> No.60194524

>>60194446
Check that all USB ports are working?
You'd be surprised how many end users fuck these things up

>> No.60194922

>>60194395
Reporting back, I looked for all the models you mentioned.

The T420 and X220 are out of the question cause I couldn't find the i7 version with USB 3.0

I'm gonna stick to the X models cause they seem like the perfect size for me.
I found an X230 for 300€, only 75€ cheaper than the X260

In the end, I think I'll be going with the X260

Thanks for the help anon

>> No.60195276

>>60194922
375 euromonies is also a really good price for an X260. Hope you enjoy it when it arrives, anon

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So, I did it.
I bought a X220 almost new (used @office, almost mint condition because muh external keyboard & Mouse) and finally at home after switch on the CPU Temp starts to skyrocket to over 93ºC (199.4 F) on idle. ON FUCKING IDLE.
So I just started to google and read about the meme thermal paste they got.
So what's your opinion, /g/?
Pls Halp.

>> No.60195357

Just fried my main board on the laptop I modded and I have no idea how.

Gonna put a bullet in my head, then go buy a new mobo.

>> No.60195367

hello is x220 for 5000 rupee good idea? I find on the ebay and look like good priec, am very like

it come with shattered screen but ez fix, right?
many thank

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Sounds a bit weird that it would be that high, but just replace the paste.

Pic is my temps while watching a YT vid, same specs

>> No.60195569

>>60195485
That's what I tought. Thanks.

>> No.60195605

>>60195367
>78 freedombux
Sounds fair enough, just be sure to get yourself a new screen and of that's all it's broken you're good to go.
And while you're on that, fix your English a bit and replace thermal compound. These machines can run wildly hot.

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>>60156775
Here's to the dipshit who claimed my T430 modified heatsink + 3840QM would throttle under full load.

Fresh paste, test ran for 20 min. Could even overclock a bit with my modded BIOS and still not throttle.

Got my 1TB drive today, just need to copy over windblows.

>> No.60196104

Okay, so my T530 arrived early, and shows an error 2100. Does that mean it has no HDD or that it's dead?

>> No.60196144

>>60196100
you wanna link me what you did senpai? kinda interested in this but new to thinkpads.

>> No.60196166

>>60196100
how long would the battery on this thing run for?

>> No.60196220

>>60196144
I spent the last week replacing most parts of my T430 with new ones or with modifications.

My motherboard has no nVidia GPU, but I'm using that mobo's heatsink because it has an extra copper pipe going to an empty space in the chassis, which causes a bit of heat dissipation For Free.

As far as CPU swaps go, it's fairly simply, just takes a little bit to disassemble and swap.

Modded BIOS lets me change thermal throttle settings, but looks like that's not necessary.

>>60196166
Roughly 30% less than the old one if we're comparing CPUs alone, since it's 10W of extra TDP.

>> No.60196241

>>60196220
jesus that's sick, battery life sadly isn't for me which sucks. best of luck anon.

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>>60196241
I carry around a slice.

Go T H I C C or go home.

ALSO, the BIOS mod allows me to completely disable cores, which means I can turn this into a i5-3360M when I need more battery.

>> No.60196403

>>60196104
Okay, I got the drive out and put it back in. It detects it now, but bounces me back to the device select screen.
It's a Hitachi drive if that helps.

>> No.60196474

>>60196324
S H I T
O
N

>> No.60196494

>>60188912
at half capacity of a slice battery I got 3 hours estimated, but I never didn't watch video for long enough to really test it.
I did however buy a 26Ah(26000mAh) battery bank off amazon for like $100 that does me pretty good. YMMV.

>> No.60196784

>>60196494
wait not slice, but etended.

>> No.60196857

>>60196784
extended.
I fucked up my keyboard.

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