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Post your component list, rate other anons', ask questions in general.

Always state the purpose of your PC, your budget, AND YOUR COUNTRY if outside the USA.
If you are asking for improvements, clarify whether you want to lower price, or improve specs or build quality.

>Assemble your parts list with price comparisons by vendor and compatibility filter.

>Have a budget, but don't know where to start? This will recommend you a parts list based on price.

>General build advice including chipset compatibility, power supply advice, Windows activation information.

>Information about how to assemble a PC, how to select components, etc.

>Subsitute a G4560 with 2400MHz RAM for any Pentium or i3; similar performance, up to 50% cost reduction.
>Consider using an i5 6500/7500 in any RX470/480 or GTX 1060 tier build.
>Consider stock fan+heatsink for any i3 or locked i5 build without a Z mobo.
>Consider a H110/B150 (need BIOS update BEFORE installing CPU) or B250 mobo for any Pentium or i3 build.
>Add a 240GB SSD to the "Very Good" tier build.
>The only worthwhile gfx cards are the GTX1050Ti, RX470, RX480, GTX1060 6GB
>Wait to buy until after Ryzen launch in very early March.

If you see any other build advice or part list threads, direct them here with >>>/g/pcbg

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Anyword on Ryzen pricing yet?

>> No.58872697

only the 8 core models, starting at just above $300

>> No.58872703
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Damn. Ok what about this one ASRock Z170A-X1/3.1 LGA1151?

>> No.58872710

Which 1070 card should I buy? Did EVGA fix the house fire issues?

>> No.58872725

>negative air pressure inside that case

how horrible.

>> No.58872726

Will the release of the 1080 ti drive down prices of the 1060, 1070?

Want to get a 1070 but wondering if it's worth waiting. 1070 prices are getting down lower to MSRP I noticed.

>> No.58872738

Outdated link:
>>General build advice including chipset compatibility, power supply advice, Windows activation information.
Should be: http://pastebin.com/F9diF2hA

And to clarify:
>Consider a H110/B150 (need BIOS update BEFORE installing CPU) or B250 mobo for any Pentium or i3 build.
BIOS update only applies if you buy a Kaby Lake CPU with 1xx chipset mobo.

>> No.58872747

Noctua fans are ugly as hell to me.

>> No.58872749

Recently bought evga 1070 SC, no housefire yet.

How significant is RAM speed? Thinking about upgrading from 8gb 2133hz to something better if its worth. (High end gaming, Motion graphics with afterfx)

>> No.58872772

Can it update BIOS without a CPU?
Just get the cheapest z270 mobo and save yourself a lot of hassle.

>implying it makes a difference

most likely not.

3000-3200MHz is the sweetspot. It can give a slight boost of a couple % but anything faster is a waste of money.

>> No.58872780

Nothing you should believe, just speculation and lies at this point

>> No.58872790

No. It'll maybe drive down the price of the 1080 but even that's unlikely with how expensive it's expected to be
Im completely sure it will drop the price of the Titan XP

>> No.58872802

>went to pre-order Ryzen
>search Ryzen @ newegg
>get some weird Gundam toy thing
The fuck do you guys get the pre-orders info from?

>> No.58872815

The shittiest and worst-optimized games may see a small boost in fps
After effects should see an actually noticable boost in performance
Like a one said, 3000mhz used to be the best MHz/$, but now with all the ram prices fucked, just get the faster ram you feel comfortable paying for, even on programs that use the extra speed it won't be anything mindblowing if you get 3000 instead of 3200

>> No.58872820

Case in pic?

>> No.58872835

Tech Blogs

>> No.58872873

idk but pcpicker doesn't seem to bring up any issues with it

>> No.58872902

Where the fuck did you hear they let people pre-order?

because technically it works, and you should stop blindly relying on that site cus it's not always correct.

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I'm sorry for stupid question, but I selected boot from my optical drive to install windows. After this is done, do I need to change where I boot from?

Or will it not matter if I never use the optical drive after this

>> No.58872917


no, it wont do anything unless you have a disc in the drive and then it will just ask if you want to boot from it (but only if the disc is bootable).

>> No.58872919

Boot order
It's probably already changed, Windows changed my boot order from USB to drive as soon as it was done installing

>> No.58872929


If you have a disc inserted it will just check if it's bootable, if not, it will automatically proceed to the next boot option.

>> No.58872955

Eh theres a pc shop down the road I will just get them to update the bios

>> No.58872971

Slight negative air pressure is better for temps

>> No.58872980

Does that even make sense?

>> No.58872991

whats the difference between msi b250i gaming pro ac and the msi h270i gaming pro ac ?

>> No.58873000

>could just get a 2xx chipset board instead of paying someone to update BIOS for you
>wont even get all the latest chipset features after spending same amount of money

not really

go to newegg and add them to comparison and read

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inaidible 4 slot blower style graphics card coolers WHEN?

>> No.58873005

Not significantly, but yes really

>> No.58873024

They sell 3-slot GPU heatsinks

>> No.58873031

What fucked RAM prices?

Currently looking at Corsair Vengance 16gb 3200 mhz for $125 (3000 mhz is literally 1c cheaper) - How hard is it to replace? I know physically its easy but do I have to do any major bios tweaking?

>> No.58873051

it's a moot point because it's an insignificant difference.

they used to be under $100 for same size/speed just 2 months ago

>> No.58873079

I don't care anymore I just won't want to pay 150-200$ for a fucking motherboard that I won't even OC.

>> No.58873112

Who knows, all I know is that I got exactly what you're looking at for $75 (no sale or coupon or anything) like 3-4 months ago

>> No.58873116

buy one for $110 then you fucking idiot


>> No.58873133

You go to XMP settings and turn it on
For me at least, it automatically adjusted the frequency, voltage and timings as soon as it could recognize the ram (I needed a bios update for XMP to work on that specific G Skill model, make sure you check your motherboards ram compatibility list if they have one on their website, not all ram just werks on original bios'es

>> No.58873181

not blower style ones, at least none that i know of. the basic idea (pushing the heat out of the case) is good, but it's always done with loud af radial fans.

>> No.58873208

I've been thinking about getting an AMD GPU, since my monitor supports freesync (wasn't the most important criteria when I bought it). But I have really terrivle experience with my last AMD GPU (laptop GPU tho), are they better now?

>> No.58873213

Non-blower cards assume you have a proper exhaust system in place on your case.
I mean yeah blowers are good for keeping the heat away from your motherboard, but they're terrible for actually cooling your GPU, and a proper exhaust solves the radial-fan problem of internal heat
Blowers are used in small form factor cases where there isn't perfect airflow or adequate exhaust, but with proper airflow and exhaust, radial fans win 100% of the tine

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Trying to put together a machine for a friend to play Fallout 4 modded and Skyrim and all that crap. Cheaper is better but we're topping out around 750

>> No.58873244

change to rx470

>> No.58873247

They perform better. I'm sure the build quality is better than years-old laptop radeons but I can't say myself
But 1440p AND high fps is tough to do, you essentially need a 1070

>> No.58873254

Negative air pressure sucks in dust from every nook and crany in the case. Its not about case temps, its about not having dust spots on every panel in the case.

>> No.58873282

i read an article that said the contrary years ago

and my stepmoms old IBM desktop only had an exhaust fan and zero dust after almost a decade of use.

>> No.58873317

That's why I didn't say it was better for dust

>> No.58873389

How's this 1070? Also any recommendations of a 144hz monitor either 1080p or 1440p. https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GeForce-GDDR5-Windforce-GV-N1070WF2OC-8GD/dp/B01HHCA1IO/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1486674787&sr=1-2&keywords=gtx+1070

>> No.58873426

I dont know. I work IT in a very dusty warehouse, all the dell PCs there have 2 exhaust fans, and every single front panel, USB port, 5.25 tray, everything has dust layered into those openings.

>> No.58873436


I'd get a 3-fan edition.
For the monitors either AOC AG271QG or Acer XB271HU.

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That's what I have. Cheap as it comes and overclocks just as well as any 1070 on the internet (a little over 2.1GHz)

>> No.58873462

That diagram is wrong
Air exits out the rear of the fans in a conical pattern. It almost never exits in a straight cylinder without shrouds or vortex-generating features

>> No.58873466

>blowers are good for keeping the heat away from your motherboard, but they're terrible for actually cooling your GPU
if that is true, why are more or less all good aftermarket CPU coolers (axial) blower style?
I'm not asking for xbox-huge radial fans here, what i want is a setup with large axial fans in a blower setup, like the top half of the pic (CPU airflow). DVI and some DP ports can be put in one slot, the other 3 can be exhaust.

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>all good aftermarket coolers are blower style

>> No.58873502

>blower style CPU cooler
Now that would be cool

>> No.58873510

Good to know.
Is having an extra fan worth an extra @25 plus taxes? https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GeForce-Graphics-GV-N1070G1-GAMING-8GD/dp/B01H0WU884/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1486678178&sr=1-3&keywords=gtx+1070&refinements=p_n_feature_keywords_five_browse-bin%3A6147187011%2Cp_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A6066318011

>> No.58873565

You mean vertical axial fans?
There is no good radial blower cooler for a CPU, and the GPU radial blowers aren't as good as full heatsinks with axial fans
And vertical axial fans on a GPU would perk better but really doesn't offer much advantage over horizontal axial fans for how much space it would take away
Nothing is stopping you from tying a CPU cooler to a GPU

>> No.58873718

I have a Corsair 100R silent edition case and it says: The Corsair 100R Silent ATX Mid Tower Case supports video cards up to 414mm long, but video cards over 275mm may block drive bays. Since the Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card is 280mm long, some drive bays may not be usable.

I'm using all of my drive bays, can this card fit or should I go for the 2 fan version?

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Maybe maybe not

>> No.58873758

you need a hard drive for the games and mods, a quad core cpu and you should go with a 8gb 480. expecting to have a good time modding with the duel core is not going to spell good fun times for you.

>> No.58873778

He has a quad thread CPU for very cheap, and getting an 8Gb over a 4Gb is a retarded suggestion

>> No.58873787

no he doesnt you fucking tard. try reading the god damn post where he said THE CHEAPER THE BETTER

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It's also not gonna spell dual core

>> No.58873835

Pic related, blower style CPU cooling.

>Nothing is stopping you from tying a CPU cooler to a GPU
That's kinda the future i hope for. HBM right next to the GPU should make that possible.

>> No.58873843

I guess I need to open my pc up and check where the pcie slots are just to be safe.

>> No.58873848

HBM is dead, it's all about hbm2
Aren't you keeping up on your memes?

>> No.58873849

Would you worry about how your GPU support bracket looks?

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>pic related
>not posting pic

>> No.58873851

people already did it and it looks retarded and is not optimal use of space inside the case

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>pic related, blower style CPU cooling
Looks about right

>> No.58873896

Those are vertically-positioned axial (the fan blows air through the fan, parallel to the axle) fans.
"Blower" implies both a radial (the fan sucks in air and then blows it sideways radially) fan and a shroud isolating the heatsink and airflow from the case of the case

>> No.58873927

Vocabulary aside, you're right. A vertical heatsink would cool a GPU much better than the normal horizontal ones, but that would take up at least 120mm of PCIe slots, plus you'd have to get a horizontal heatspreader anyways to deal with the VRMs getting hot on the card
I mean it's possible, but *most* GPU coolers do well enough already and a watercooling loop is a much better and more aesthetic way to handle an overheating card

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this is my current blower set-up and all my temps are sitting under 30*c. but is there anything wrong with this?

>> No.58873943

>not optimal use of space inside the case
If it needs more space, i'll use a bigger case. It just sits next to the desk anyway, why would i care if it's half a foot taller?

>> No.58873947

Heat rises and dust falls, so flip those top fans around

>> No.58873948


on top i have two 120mm and on the front i've got 3 140mm

>> No.58873952

Modded Fallout 4 and Skyrim are notoriously memory hungry, even at 1080p. Those modpacks quaddruple the memory footprint of every texture. There is generally no optimization because a lot of the modders are just hobbyists and have no idea what they're doing. Even the smallest shit gets an overkill texel density and the texture maps are often badly compressed. They'll make giant normal maps even though you can't tell the difference etc. They'll do this for all kinds of textures like translucency, roughness maps and so on, even though it has virtually no impact on visual quality but a massive impact on memory usage.

Once that memory is full you're gonna get stuttering and pop-in like crazy which will ruin your experience. FPS will also crash in areas where large amounts of new textures are loaded while the memory is full.

The GPU does 85% of the work, always put every last cent into the GPU when doing a budget gaming rig. Get an RX480 8GB. Buy 2x 4GB system memory so that you can use them in dual-channel, then later when you have the money just buy another set of 2x 4GB if needed. Don't use a single 8 GB stick because you're never gonna upgrade to 32 GB. Get that dual channel action going with 2x 4GB.

My old PC had a GTX780 3GB and a 1080p monitor. Modded Skyrim was possible but it will start to lag with ENB and heavy high-res texture packs. VRAM was totally full. FPS 35-60, unstable because of VRAM being full (again, heavily modded). Fallout 4 unmodded was playable 50-60 FPS with most settings topped out except shadows. VRAM was again capped out (this time without any mods at all) There's no doubt that the RX480 8 GB will be able to store all that texture goodness while maintaining solid performance, I think 4GB won't be enough for FO4 modded.

>> No.58873953

Why does windows not see my hard drive after install, but it did during out when I selected the ssd

It only sees the ssd and optical drive.

>> No.58873962

the way the gpu is oriented inside the case severely limits the cooler you can put on it...

>> No.58873967

maybe he wants a high res texture pack, I don't know how hard he's modding.

>no he doesnt you fucking tard

are you saying no to everything or just a single thing, be more specific. and "cheaper the better" is bullshit, if that's true maybe he should just get a used dell home pc, throw in a $20 gpu, and have 4k 240fps for rest of time.

you got me

>> No.58873971


even if they're filtered fans?

>> No.58873986


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That still leaves the fact that your top fans are working against the natural flow of hot air
Generally it's a good idea to have front-bottom intakes and top-rear exhausts with a fairly balanced intake/exhaust ratio (with a little more fanpower on the intake side for positive pressure to reduce dust)
Flipping the top is what I would do but I also have two less fans than you and a smaller case

>> No.58874034

I'd flip the top ones, will reduce dust intake significantly and there's generally a lot of space above the PC for warm air to flow upwards, away from the surrounding area of the PC. The back of the PC usually faces a wall, creating a pocket of heat behind it.

>> No.58874036

Uh is it normal when installing drivers from the mobo disc for it to be slow? With the os on ssd, 16gb ram and i5 6600k?

It's taking several minutes

>> No.58874047

go watch a fucking video about it it makes zero fucking difference if your top fans are intake or outtake

ps im not that anon you're arguing with

>> No.58874062

why the fuck are you installing outdated drivers? just go to the manufacturer's website and download the latest.

>> No.58874080

I need the ethernet driver

>> No.58874085

heatpipes. the contact area to the CPU (or GPU+HBM area) doesn't have to be in the center of the cooler.

>> No.58874092

Move the CPU fan onto the other side if you can mount it to blow the same direction, it's better to have the heatsink sandwiched between a push-fan and pull-fan instead of just having two pull-fans do all the work after the air already goes through the radiator
But its not a big difference

>> No.58874093

just download that shit, the included drivers are always very old. your CD drive is probably fucking around. i remember when installing windows from a CD it took 8 minutes for the fucking thing to even start spinning.

>> No.58874101


>> No.58874106

It makes difference for dust, that's for sure
And yeah, anything after 3 fans with at least one as intake or exhaust, it really doesn't do much more for temps

>> No.58874123

>the GPU doesn't have to be on the heatspreader
Thanks MSI!

>> No.58874125

then just install only that?

yeah but there isnt any shit like that yet and you would need support brackets so you dont crack the PCI-E slot.

>> No.58874145

not as much as you think if you have filters.

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So you mean something like this that covers all of the heated parts on a GPU and spreads them across a giant heatsink with fans on it?
Holy shit you should patent that idea

>> No.58874163

wut computer iz gud

>> No.58874191

Help windows doesn't see my regular hard drive, but bios does and I can see it in device manager

>> No.58874195

Yes, as much as you think
The filters are small and dust can literally just fall through the top, you're getting probably a dozen times as much dust intake having intakes on the top instead of the side, filtered or not (because all intakes should be filtered, that's basic stuff, don't compare front intake to a top intake and say top intake doesn't attract dust because it defibitely does

>> No.58874221

and there's just as much dust getting sucked in thru the front. makes zero fucking difference

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This is what he's talking about and it's pretty dumb. I mean it is a giant heatsink on top of a GPU, of course it'll stay cool
But I mean just look at that thing

>> No.58874238

>Blower implies a radial fan
Not going to argue about vocabulatory. I just often heard server coolers (those 40mm delta turbines) being referred to as blower style, because they move the air along the hot spot, not onto it.

>> No.58874253

But there isn't
Dust doesn't just fly sideways through the air, it falls and collects on top of your pc

>> No.58874270
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KFA2 GeForce GTX 1080 Exoc went on sale here, not seeing any red flags in reviews, am i good to upgrade my 1070 amp! extreme to this?

>> No.58874277

Rub your finger across your side panel
Now rub it against the top of your PC or the desk it is sitting on
Which has more dust?
Unless you have a daily maid, then just get an open case and be a fag

>> No.58874278

are you completely retarded? dust falls equally everywhere, including infront of your PC where your fucking intake fans are you stupid shit, it's light enough that even on lowest setting shit will get sucked in

fucking hell get a grip on reality you retard

>> No.58874291

do you like wasting money?

>> No.58874300

But top fans don't even need to suck dust in, it'll cover your internals in dust just by sitting there, plus it'll suck in all of the buildup on top of the grille as soon as you turn it on once

>> No.58874319

im looking to order from Germany to Denmark, that 1080 actually costs me LESS the 1070 here, or did you mean its trash?

>> No.58874322

>just covers your internals
so does just having front intake fans u tard. open your case and have a look

>> No.58874339

Having top fans at all allows for significantly more dust to enter the PC especially if they're intake but also if they're exhaust.
Get good airflow on the sides and put a cover on the top vents, that's what you should be doing if cooling isn't a huge problem anyways.

>> No.58874341

you already have a 1070, you cant sell that to cover the full cost of the 1080, is the cost difference worth the performance increase for you?

>> No.58874376

Looks fine to me
My receiver under my desk that I dusted out around October (same month I bought my PC) looks pretty hairy inside
My PC inside is fine with just a slight layer you can't visibly see
The top fan (which is exhaust) is much dustier than my front or back fans. The PSU should be the dustier part but it's fans-off most of the time so it can't suck up the dust under the PC very often

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concerning the dust comments. does it matter if my case has filtration methods built into it?

>> No.58874386

>So you mean something like this that covers all of the heated parts on a GPU and spreads them across a giant heatsink with fans on it?
Yes, exactly this.

>I mean it is a giant heatsink on top of a GPU, of course it'll stay cool
That's the whole point of cooling, keeping things cool. What's so dumb about it?
>But I mean just look at that thing
Its inside a case next to my desk. I don't want to look at it, i want to use it and preferably not hear it, even if it's some 250W flagship card.

That's what i'm currently doing, but it's more expensive and requires more service

>> No.58874402

shit, my bad, i just realised i my first message was full retard, i dont have the 1070 yet, its just on my list of parts im curently expecting to buy come end of the month, i'd never pay that much money to replace on i already had, sorry.

>> No.58874409


GPUs already have built-in heatsinks, unless you already knew that.

>> No.58874416

highly recommended

oh, then get the 1080 if it's almost the same price

>> No.58874439
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with a 1080, you will always be able to get 60fps, even at 4k (except for Witcher 3 with hairworks)

a 1070 can get 60fps on almost everything, except at 4k.

>> No.58874478

You should have dust filters on every single one of your intakes, this isn't a "feature" anymore it's basic case-making competence
Exhaust should be as unrestricted as possible unless you use it in an unusually dusty environment

>> No.58874485


yeah figured its a no brainer, just looking to avoid an accidental house fire, since it doesnt have THAT many reviews, this is my first pc, and the price just seems suspiciously low, but its on amazon prime so i think im covered.

thanks, gonna be interesting to see if my shit survives shipping lol, but ordering from Germany to Denmark, im paying roughly 10% less, for 25% more.

>> No.58874491

So I'm building a PC. My issue is my PC has no OS yet and I have it connected to my tv via VGA but my tv is getting no signal. Do I need to have it connected to an actual monitor or something until I get an OS on it?

>> No.58874493

>yes, exactly this
Wow I wish GPU manufacturers would start using a heatsink like this!

>> No.58874504

Doesn't matter what you do, dust is gonna get on the fans, they move too fast so there's a layer of air above the surface of the blades that barely moves meaning dust can settle on it. Only thing that's gonna prevent dust is a combination of filters and basically just making sure the room you use it in is actually fucking clean. Dust isn't a problem if you're not a lazy faggot

>> No.58874518


yes you need an OS. the TV isn't getting signal because the PC isn't sending out a signal.

>> No.58874535

How do I go about putting an OS on with no display? I have Ubuntu on a bootable thumb drive but if I can't see the bios...

>> No.58874539

Well I'm talking about case dust, and that having the top open and exposed (or even worse, exposed AND sucking things in) lets significantly more dust in than an equivalent vent on the side or front

>> No.58874551


what sort of motherboard is it? and what sort of GPU are you using?

>> No.58874560

Not really a build question, but what soc or small form factor htpc is recommended as torrent/media Maschine, preferably always on. Building a dedicated freenas rig seems to be Quote extensive, and using old pc parts would make it too power hungry for an always in device.

>> No.58874570


OP of the dust question....just so you guys know I don't have any dust in my system. i think there's so much pressure that it's all evacuated.

>> No.58874578

Thanks auto correct, sorry bout that

>> No.58874579

Msi z97s krait edition
Gpu is R9 270x
I have the VGA plugged into the mobo

>> No.58874596

Also your top fans are still working against the laws of thermodynamics still but if it blows air I guess it accomplished its mission right

>> No.58874615


read this


>> No.58874620

with a fan setup moving the heat towards the exhaust instead of everywhere, of course

>> No.58874623
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Purpose: gaming

Budget: 250 USD available for parts each month

this is what i have now, and i'd like to run as much as i can on ultra. don't care about "future proofing", just what is here and now.

>> No.58874633

But anon... Think of this...
What if, and stay with me here
What if you put the exhaust right where the heat is trying to go?

>> No.58874646

Are AIO water coolers worth it? Thinking of getting a Cooler Master Masterliquid pro 240 for my next build with a 7600K but I keep hearing mixed opinion on if water cooling is a meme or not.

>> No.58874649

>drill holes in exhaust manifold
>plug muffler with potato

>> No.58874674


they're really only worth it if there isn't much free space inside your case. as long as you have a lot of free space, a traditional heatsink with a fan is good.

>> No.58874687

Looking to build a cheap PC to replace my mom's old and dying Athlon XP+ machine.

She uses it for photo organizing, accessing our family message boards and chats, very light video editing (it takes forever to render a 5 minute 720p video, so she's learned how to output SD but continues to record in HD for future remastering). She has mixed results with skyping family members. Google hangouts only ever works if she resets the computer first and then it tends to lock up after she's done. She does almost no gaming but has been given some steam games like Zuma and a few other extremely light games that barely run on her computer, so she never plays them.

I'm on limited income from disability. Unable to work right now because some drunk fuck decided I didn't need the use of my legs for several months, so my budget for this is around $100. Less is ideal. It's really all I can spare at the moment and it's taken me a couple months to save that.

Any suggestions /g/?

>> No.58874716
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Dialy reminder that hot air balloons don't work sideways

>> No.58874753

that yould mean changing the orientation of the card inside the case, aka BTX. That idea failed years ago.

>> No.58874769

Your video card is blowing air in literally ever direction on its horizontal plane btw, I forgot to tell you that's not how GPU airflow works in your pic

>> No.58874786

>heat moves towards top
>exhaust is on top

>> No.58874808
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>tell you to put exhaust where the heat goes
>tell you heat rises
>tell you to put exhausts on top
Are you high?

>> No.58874815
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Am I missing anything significant or are the Phanteks P400S and Fractal Define C practically the same case?

Both have:
>Sound dampening foam
>Front/top/PSU dust filters
>Top covers with both of the above
>2x 3.5" and 2.5"
>2x 120mm fans
>PSU shroud

The only notable features I can spot easily are the larger depth and included fan controller on the P400S.

There's only a $5-10 difference between the two in my area based on the model, the P400S being overall cheaper so I'm leaning towards that for the moment. Should I go for it?

>> No.58874832

So a Scythe Fuma would do the same trick?

>> No.58874850

I totally get it if you'd rather have top intake than top exhaust, it's not uncommon, but what the actual fuck are you talking about?

>> No.58874869

It's more common to have a rear intake and a top exhaust than to have a rear exhaust and top intake from what I've seen

>> No.58874927

Should I consider building a mini-ITX config?

It will be used for general gaming and shitposting. Gigabyte's mini-ITX 1070 looks nice as well (even though looks are not really a factor to me), and it would be slightly cheaper here overall than a full sized build.

Con is that a possible GPU replacement will be difficult. It would be my first build and I'm a bit afraid because of the smaller case (less room, more ways to fuck up - at least that's what I think)

What do you guys think? Should I just go for an ATX one for more upgrade potential later?

>> No.58874946
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p400/s has
>shitty thumbscrews to remove the case (m,ay be a problem on my unit)
>cable management holes are kinda small

other than that, pretty good.

>> No.58874964

sound dampening foam is a meme, get the Fractal

>> No.58875119

Both have sound dampening foam you genius.

>> No.58875175

no shit, brohan, the p400s is still a trashy case in comparison, harder to work with, shittier materials, bad cable management design, not worth saving 5 bucks imo.

>> No.58875444
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clock the sandy until its glowing, get a better cooler if you have to

pop a 480 in there. it'll max everything @ x900 and you can get a freesync as the next upgrade. rest looks fine.

Should I bother adding an exhaust fan on the back or add a second fan to the evo?

>> No.58875482

How hot is your CPU?
It's close enough to the heatsink that im sure I'll help the CPU either way, I'd go extra exhaust
Plus you have to fuck with the 212 plastic fan mounts and shit and that sucks if it doesn't fit on there fit easily

>> No.58875484

here is my build list i already have everything but the SSD and the GPU but anything you would recommend with either?

>> No.58875500

forgot link like a retard


>> No.58875501

Is that side panel intake or exhaust?
I have a side panel and a slim fan, I have no idea what to do with it. Intake would give fresh air directly to the GPU, but exhaust would suck hot air directly out of the GPU

>> No.58875566
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How do you like that mobo?

Heres one I built recently

>> No.58875633

Help me find an SSD with more storage and less cash moneys.
Dont say anything about the fans unless you know of some that are all black and are static pressure. DONT

>> No.58875645

Whats your budget anon? Always add budget

>> No.58875663

No fans? And why the M.2 SSD? Just go with a regular one

>> No.58875679

im buying the ssd and gpu with my taxes which will be 977 dollars without state returns as stated the rest i already own

because i have the slot on my board and i would rather not run more cables and the case has plenty of fans as is

>> No.58875712

hey guys, help me pick a power supply? went by http://techcity.tv/forum/discussion/137/psu-tier-list

options are (roughly same price on amazon.de):
1. Corsair RMi Series RM650i PFC 80+ Gold modular 650 Watt

2. eVGA SuperNOVA 550 G2 - power supply - 550 Watt

3. BitFenix Whisper M 80 Plus Gold Netzteil, modular - 650 Watt

aditionally, which Fractal case do you reccomend for a Noctua D-15 air cooling system? i had my mind set on the S, i realise it's sort of meant for liquid cooling, but it seems like you can get some good airflow going in there, thoughts?

thank you in advance!

>> No.58875836

What 1070 version does /pcbg/ recommend?

>> No.58875914

can't go wrong with the AMP! Extreme

>> No.58875924

60-65c in occt under 60 in normal use. I think I'll try it both ways and see.

gpu could be used as a grill unless you set fan speeds to hover. might need new tim

intake with a filter. wanted to keep positive pressure and stay clean. only have 2 cha fan headers and no speed control for pwr fan header so I got 2 pwm splitters

>> No.58875952

Get the EVGA G3, it shits on all three of your chosen PSUs:
For the case i'd get a Define S or C if you don't need/use ODD, alternatively you could go with something like the Be Quiet Silent Base 600, NH-D15 should still fit in there.

>> No.58876019
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Pic related is my current build. Thinking about upgrading GPU.

USA, budget is around $200. Idea is to play 1080p 60fps and maybe not upgrade for a while again, had this pc since 2014, upgraded the CPU in 2015.

Most demanding game would be Witcher 3.

Options (All fromjet.com)

ASUS Radeon RX 470 4GB DC2 Edition DP 1.4 HDMI 2.0 AMD Gaming Graphics Card (RX470-DC2-4G) by ASUS


MSI RX 470 GAMING X 4G Radeon RX 470 Graphic Card - 1.25 GHz Boost Clock - 4 GB GDDR5 by MSI


Radeon RX 480 4GB by MSI


MSI - RX 480 ARMOR 8G OC - MSI ARMOR RX 480 ARMOR 8G OC Radeon RX 480 Graphic Card - 1.29 GHz Core - 8 GB GDDR5 - PCI by MSI


>> No.58876026

Evga or gigabyte

>> No.58876043

Is everyone going to ignore my request thanks /g/

>> No.58876050

The cheapest

>> No.58876071

if you're really trying to save a few bucks, maybe you shouldnt be be getting a 1070 in the first place. Zotac AMP! Extreme is my reccomendation. Good performance, Good temp, high quality.

>> No.58876073

All you need is 3 fans
They don't come in two packs?

>> No.58876080


It's pretty much the best option out there, just go for it.

>> No.58876081

never bought a ZOTAC product before, looks pretty good.
Did they fix the over heating issues?
>The cheapest
The cheapest I've seen is the first gigabyte I linked for $369.99

>> No.58876086

So according to speccy and hwmonitor my mobo is 118C. Brand new pc

The other temps are fine. All fans going. There is no heat coming off anything in the case.

Is it just reading it wrong? It is an asus z170p running win 7

>> No.58876088

fix your attitude, boy, you're asking for free advise here.

>> No.58876096

Yep, that's the gigabyte I got
2100+MHz and below 75° under load (with "turbo" fan setting)

>> No.58876111

desu it always comes down to Gigabyte vs AMP! Extreme, just think paying the few extra bucks is worth it for the AMP, its the same thing with less issues and higher expected life time.

>> No.58876150
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phenom II x2
gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4P
4 gb ddr2 ram
intel pro/1000 mt server PCI nic
1 gb 7850
2000 era antec case

>> No.58876162

Alright I'll get that, New question I have a EVGA 600B psu and 2 ssd(s) and 4 hdds in my build and the estimated power usage is 522wats, what psu should i upgrade to?

>> No.58876193
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>4 hdds

>> No.58876197
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They're beautiful and mellow. They just don't fit anywhere.
Choose a good case and pick your components around that case. Of course ATX has more upgrade potential, but if you limit yourself to:
>One GPU
>Mostly SATA storage
>2 DIMMs
There will be really no difference. ITX builds take more thought, especially with cable management, but it's more rewarding IMO.

>> No.58876212

I've been downloading games like crazy do to have access to business class internet with no data cap and need the space.

>> No.58876223

Second one, higher clock speed

>> No.58876249
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Looking for a quiet and reliable HDD to store my Chinese cartoons. Is the WD Red a good choice? Like the ones with multiple platters? I know the whole "it's only for NAS use" thing, but if it's reliable enough for a NAS, it's reliable enough for me.

>> No.58876250

700 to 800 definitely. But why so many hard drives and ssds? Are you running them on a RAID config? Pretty sure you dont need that many

>> No.58876269


>> No.58876284

Can I have multiple ssd on my rigs? If so, is SanDisk ultra 2 480gb worth it?
Also can I just buy a ds4 controller, connect it via USB and play on Windows 10?

>> No.58876293

I was going to run them in raid eventually. Should I stick with buying an EVGA psu or seasonic (isn't some evga psu re branded seasonics?) or some other brand?

>> No.58876314

why wouldnt you be able to have multiple SSDs?

>> No.58876335

alright, completely new to building a pc but i'd like to get into pc gaming eventually


thoughts? just as a first draft

>> No.58876350

as someone with an amd build i would recommend waiting for zen .

>> No.58876359

It's shit and AM3 is obsolete.

>> No.58876369

Wireless: https://www.playstation.com/en-us/explore/accessories/dualshock-4-usb-wireless-adaptor/
Wired: https://inputmapper.com/

>> No.58876405

>Starting with AMD on first build
Good luck. Better off with Intel and/or waiting for Ryzen.

>> No.58876460
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>> No.58876464

Is ds4windows is a member or legit?is SanDisk ultra 2 ssd is worth it?

>> No.58876485

ok, thanks

>> No.58876587
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Imho get the MSI 470 and call it a day.

>> No.58876769

>Should I stick with buying an EVGA psu or seasonic (isn't some evga psu re branded seasonics?) or some other brand?

>> No.58876827


>> No.58876830

^Fucking this. Can't bring myself to buy them, even though I'm told they're superb.

>> No.58876851

Yes and not sure. Im going to use the samsung 850 pro 500GB

>> No.58876861

Same with me. Im sticking with nice looking corsair fans

>> No.58876944
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Ya'll got no taste. It's not like they're shaped like lizard cocks or whatever.

>> No.58877015

Anyone know when they're gonna start selling AM4 mobos? I'm not gonna build a new computer any time soon, just wanna know some approximate dates if there are any laying around.

>> No.58877016

I dont like the ugly white and brown look. Sure i could spray paint and shit, but then I have to spend extra moneys, and then possibly mess one or two up, knowing myself

>> No.58877049

Rate my build /g/
>inb4 buy noctus
See my reasons here

>> No.58877057

>no taste

>> No.58877073


brown/beige fans in a black case? that's supposed to look good?

>> No.58877078

Buy Noctuas. Better than nothing.

>> No.58877098

Im an idiot. Forgot link https://pcpartpicker.com/user/oznerol10/saved/gdTP6h

>> No.58877117
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Please help.
I've just built a pc using the Amd RX 480 and I'm getting frequent crashes (screen goes grey, restart required).
I looked up some solutions and was suggested to change GPU and Memory frequency to dynamic, aswell as to change the power limit to -20%. I also uninstalled and reinstalled the AMD drivers, but nothing helped.
I'm very new to pc gaming, if you need any other info just let me know but I'd love some help, this is driving me crazy.
Specs in pic related.

>> No.58877167

>Caring about what your fans look like
>In a windowless case
>An ugly one at that
I'm assuming you care about silence, and if so, having five case fans is counter-intuitive, and that extra $50 you saved by only buying three would be better spent parts that matter more.

>> No.58877181

yo rate me mullatos


>> No.58877217

I don't know how good that build is in Kangaroo Dollars, but looks okay.

>> No.58877270

worthless nigger / 10

>> No.58877283

How's this psu? https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Bronze-Power-Supply-100-B1-0700-K1/dp/B018JYHBE6/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1486695148&sr=1-1&keywords=psu&refinements=p_n_feature_keywords_two_browse-bin%3A6906986011

>> No.58877310
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>tfw video game console assembly general

>> No.58877321

Yes. WD Red are quiet.
I bought 2 of them specifically because of the low noise.

>> No.58877340

check temps

>> No.58877367

Dont care about silence unless it will sound like a macbook pro through a thick wooden desk.
I want all black, 140mm pwm fans with at least 60 cfm

>> No.58877394


people who do video/web design all have macs.

>> No.58877396

I'm at 48c while idle, is that high?

>> No.58877414


yeah that's really high. you should be at 25-35 depending on how efficient your air management is. my 1080 sits at 27*

>> No.58877430

Get cooler master hyper 212 evo cooler. Cpu cooler Saves you 20 bucks. And why get i5 when you can get i7 7600K or 6700K for same price

>> No.58877439

Ok, thanks, how should I go about lowering the temp? My tech savvy friend who helped me build the pc assured I didn't need any extra fans, if I change the rpm of the fans in the global wattman settings will that help?

>> No.58877444

Do some gaming and monitor your hardware.

>> No.58877474

Wasting $200 extra dollars for msi gay shit. Get this one.

>> No.58877475
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I'm not sure if this is referring to gpu or cpu, is there a better temp display I can open?

>> No.58877478


yeah turn them to max and watch the temps.

>> No.58877487


>> No.58877501


>> No.58877514


more like wasting $20. that poster is in australia

>> No.58877538


what do you guys think? trying to game in 1440p as high of FPS as possible. Budget is $2k

>> No.58877554

>see price in cart

Go fuck yourself.

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Literally an illiterate nigger

>> No.58877585
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>> No.58877588

Turned to max, temp has dropped only 1 or 2 degrees, do I need more fans then?

>> No.58877598

I also live in australia where it's currently 38c outside.

>> No.58877604


Not for gaming.

Any glaring ways to save?

>> No.58877608


in the United States. go look at the australian price now.

>> No.58877630


if it's not for gaming, then you could get a Skylake i5, ddr4-2400 RAM, a traditional heatsink, a Z170 motherboard, and an ITX case instead of mid-ATX

unless you're doing video editing, then go for the skylake i7

>> No.58877634

You're not convincing your middle-aged father that that computer isn't for gaming.

>> No.58877672

Use CPU-Z and GPU-Z.

>> No.58877677

Get a cheaper GPU if it's not for gaming
or just a CPU/motherboard with onboard graphics

>> No.58877704

I'm 32.

>> No.58877716

Still wasting about $50 dollars. The one i suggested is 574.80 AU

>> No.58877727

Can i roll for quips real quick

>> No.58877836


so close

>> No.58877849


can't get zotac in aus

also wouldn't waste the space

>> No.58877863
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lord please someone tell me how to manage my cables

>> No.58877887


I'm not putting a Zotac in a 350D fuck off

>> No.58877936

Ew is that a stock cpu cooler

>> No.58878031

Did thread just die

>> No.58878048

Not PC building related but can someone recommend a good replacement mouse for my G500?

After 5 years with it, it now suffers with double clicking and sometimes not even registering my clicks.
$60 and under is preferable please.

>> No.58878088

i have a hyper T4 which isnt rated for LGA1151 but i tried it anyway and the mounting backplate fit bretty gud, just the mobo heatsink was blocking it

>> No.58878161

G602 is going for 40 these days.

>> No.58878213


Please, tear me apart /g/. I'm blowing a bunch of my tax refund on this thing and I don't really care about bean-counting for best price to performance. I'm firmly set on a 1080/i7 6700k build- but other than those two components, I'm open for suggestions. Trying to keep it under 1800 ideally.

>> No.58878237

Forgot to mention I've already got a 2TB HDD as well, which is why I didn't include it in the list

>> No.58878273
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I have a quick question. I am looking to upgrade my pc after I don't know how many years. I only casually play games and Dota 2 is the only game I play at the moment but I am looking to get the arkham series.

Pic related is what I have and what I think is an affordable and good upgrade to my system. can I get any feedback on this? I have ~$350 for upgrades.

>> No.58878307

Might as well go with Kaby Lake for the extra $30

>> No.58878324


can't get that cooler in aus, and I don't need an i7 from an older gen

>> No.58878325

>I'm blowing a bunch of my tax refund on this
Ya i'm about to blow mine on a 1070 and a new monitor. Feels good.

>> No.58878331


>> No.58878335 [DELETED] 

You didnt mention youre from Australia. You need to go to your version of the site

>> No.58878346 [DELETED] 

You also have that cooler included in your current build

>> No.58878351


the original link is the au version you dumb fuck

also H7 > 212

>> No.58878357


Thanks for the cleanup man, much appreciated.

I was originally planning on just getting a new optic for my AR15 and a lower tiered PC build because I didn't think I was gonna get a shitload of money back- I ended up getting like 800 dollars more than I was expecting so I decided "fuck it". Feels good indeed brah

>> No.58878382

Kind of a meme but yeah the H7 is a better cooler overall. Flat baseplate as compared to the exposed heatpipes on the 212 make for better thermal paste spread.

>> No.58878386 [DELETED] 

What the fuck who is the real requester

>> No.58878450
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what, if any is the recommended upgrade path from a g3258 to another 1150 cpu?

current specs, running at 3.8ghz

>> No.58878460

Anon i would honestly love to see this build happen. If i had the money, i would, and im too much of a stuborn little bitch to let go of my corsair fans

>> No.58878479
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what replace stone age GPU with? no AMD please

>> No.58878495

1060, 1070, or 1080

depends on budget and graphical desires

>> No.58878496


get a 1070. it would be perfect for those 1080p monitors.

>> No.58878513

so an asus strix 1070? seems very doable

>> No.58878515

My refund hits my account on monday according to the IRS website, so by the end of next week it should be all built and ready to go. I've been using a shitty little macbook air for the past few months because I sold my old desktop for retarded reasons while I went traveling, and I've finally gotten fed up with this pile of crap. Excited to be able to do more than shitpost on 4chan and watch youtube videos in 720p.

>> No.58878539

how l9ng ago did you file i hope mine doesnt hit monday it will mix with my next paycheck

>> No.58878560

Nice mine too. I filed mine on Saturday and it was already approved and everything :).

>> No.58878563

I sat down and filed pretty much the day I got my W-2, but because turbotax is a bunch of turbonigger bullshit I had to send it out with paper instead of e-filing. So I guess technically it didn't mail out till the 24th. I just today got the notice that my refund had been approved and would hit my account on the 13th.

>> No.58878585

great i got the notice the night i filed so that means mines probably coming the same day i might get my check cashed instead of adding it to my card then

>> No.58878610
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Hey guys im a musician and im looking to build a silent/fanless pc for recording/studio needs.looking to spend three grand on this and to use an RME soundcard. This is my first build so any advice will help.

>> No.58878614

Why not just have them direct deposit the amount to your bank account? That way, there's no waiting for a check in the mail that can be lost or destroyed.

>> No.58878618

SAPPHIRE NITRO+ RX 470 8G or XFX RX 480 4gb

RX 480 8gb’s out of my budget.

>> No.58878620

well i am having the direct deposit i mean my paycheck im getting tomorrow

>> No.58878628

Are you going to go with 6700K or 7700K

>> No.58878647

>silent/fanless pc
Macbook pro? Its fanless, cost $3000 but definitely not silent

>> No.58878654 [DELETED] 

Finally putting my first PC together. Here is my build. Anything I should change before I order the parts?

>> No.58878660

Question about Asus Z270 Mobos

How different is the Z270K from the Z270E? Is the "GAMING" really worth it? I don't plan on anything insane like a $3000 build, just overclocking with 16-32gb of 3000mhz DDR4, and one SSD, one/two HDD's. Would it be worth the extra money for the different board? Also, I'm not two years old, RGB is not a concern for me. If anything, I'll buy LED Strips.

Is the onboard sound any different?

>> No.58878662

U forgot link. Dont worry anon. Ive done it many a time today

>> No.58878665

looks good

>> No.58878673
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I don't know if that thing's supposed to look like one of those shitty bookshelf speakers from the 90s but holy fuck that's ugly.
Nice value. Nothing's has a better price to performance ratio than nothing.

>> No.58878674

I'm not 100% sure yet... Would you consider the extra 30 bucks worth it for a kaby lake cpu? I'm gonna look at comparisons right now

>> No.58878678

whats the difference between 4pin and 3pin fans?

>> No.58878682

I want to build a 4k 60FPS Mini-ITX box for my entertainment center. I know it will involve some form of AMD 8-core/Intel 4 core CPU + a GTX 1080, but I don't know anything about good cases just big enough to fit a 1080 and storage options (been reading about this M.2 thing but it's confusing).

Also will Ryzen chips allow for 4k Netflix streaming? My TVs built in app only does 1080p and customer service suggested buying a Roku TV or Chromecast. I'd like to kill 2 birds with one stone.

>> No.58878684

shit, forgot the link
Finally putting my first PC together. Here is my build. Anything I should change before I order the parts?


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>> No.58878693

4 pin controlled fan. 3 pin full power.
Probably, especially if you can find a deal that will reduce the cost a couple bucks.

>> No.58878694

Spoilers don't work on this board anony.

>> No.58878702

4 pin is PWM contolled. 3 pin is voltage controlled.

>> No.58878719

Everything ok but RAm. Get at LEAST 12, best is 16 or more

>> No.58878720


>your head

>> No.58878729

Its not controlled at all. Its either full power or off.

>> No.58878730

For audio specifically, Macbook Pro is your a given. If you don't plan on moving around your pc, I'd make it a hackintosh so that you still can have some fun with it, in case it's not solely dedicated to recording. Don't get the newest Macbook Pro though, no need for touchbar, honestly ruins it for me, like at least leave the function keys too. Hackintoshes don't support GTX 1000's series cards atm, but you could just use onboard gpu for Mac OS, or get a 900's series if that's what you want. Macbook Pro is portable, and very convenient, just weak. Hackintosh is not portable, at all, but you at least have potential. However, with Hackintosh, you may be limited from certain features as the OS is a cracked version. So basically,
Macbook Pro
>portable is gud
>no upgrade path, no other use (good screen for porn tho)
>touchbar is fail

>not portable, unless you make it tiny (don't)
>upgradable, more than one use
>cracked OS, kind if limited to new shit.

>> No.58878740

Anon dont buy yet though. Wait until a week after Ryzen comes out. Intel will lower their prices, and hopefully maybe Nvidia too

>> No.58878746

Depends on your motherboard. But even my cheapo MSI Z170-A PRO had fan voltage control.

>> No.58878753

Isn't that what I'm supposed to tell you? Spec sheet won't tell me if gaming is worth it buddy, that's why I'm asking this thread.

>> No.58878756

What is hackintosh

>> No.58878760

>at least 12 GB of RAM
literally what? You only need 12 GB or higher if you are using your PC for editing and stuff. Gaming requires 8 GB. Anything else is overkill.

>> No.58878764

A PC with MacOS put onto it
Google it for more info

>> No.58878809


from what i understand, music editing is pretty CPU intensive so you want a solid chip.


here's what I put together. fanless, nice CPU, and it's completely silent

>> No.58878834

Ya definitly going to build one. I never thought about a mac OS

>> No.58878840

>passive cpu cooler
>closed up case
I smell a hotbox.

>> No.58878883

Why bother with 960 evo when you can go with 850 m.2

>> No.58878892

And cheaper too

>> No.58878905

I don't understand. I'm looking up Noctua fans and they make them in black. Why are people complaining about the brown ones?

>> No.58878915

Basically as expensive as any other fans. Im not going to waste 89 cents more just to please you noctua loving fags

>> No.58878928

A little off topic.

I've been running an i5 2500K for 6 years. Recently I've noticed weird numbers in HWMonitor about the clock speed, the minimum clock will fall way below 1.6GHz, like 100MHz, 281MHz or sometimes only slightly below like 1586MHz. The CPU gets plenty of voltage (around 1.37V). Also I am not able to overclock it at all, I mean I can push it to 4.5GHz and play games just fine, but Prime95 will fail Blend tests almost instantly (less than 10 seconds) by shutting off the PC. RAM has been checked and is not faulty. PSU is a Seasonic Platinum 760W.

Should I go for a new CPU or try to get more power out of my i5? I've spent hours trying to to troubleshoot the issue. Motherboard is Asrock Z77M. I had a P8P67 before which did not have the Blend test problem (if I remember correctly).

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here, if you go with a more square shape or atx shaped case, you could watercool and place a better cpu.

>> No.58878984

>The black ones have brown corners
>The black ones run louder and are five bucks more expensive with no accessories
With the regular ones:
>They think they don't match with the rest of their parts (valid claim)
>They're children that automatically think brown = shit
>They have windows on their cases
Price isn't even really a con anymore since everyone's getting on the expensive fan train, and Noctua isn't even that expensive in comparison.

>> No.58878997

Thanks so much.

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>> No.58879150

and maybe if you're a fried pcie slot

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>> No.58880369

Is Samsung ssd is really the best compared to SanDisk?

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