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Post your component list, rate other anons', and ask questions in general.

Always state the purpose of your PC, your budget, AND YOUR COUNTRY if outside the USA.
If you are asking for improvements, clarify whether you want to lower price or to improve specs or build quality.

Assemble your parts list; built-in price comparisons by vendor and a compatibility filter.

Gaming builds based monitor resolution and refresh rate
>To activate the Description, select build from sidebar then click on the title over the parts list
>Description contains notes, other options, and build skeleton for easy customization / cost savings
>Note: Win7 and 8.1 cannot be installed on a Kaby Lake system

Have a budget, but don't know where to start? This will recommend you a parts list based on price.
>Subsitute a G4560 with 2400MHz RAM for any Pentium or i3; similar performance, up to 50% cost reduction.
>Consider using an i5 7500 in any RX470/480 or GTX 1060 tier build
>Consider stock fan+heatsink for any i3 or locked i5 build without a Z mobo
>Consider a B150/B250 or H110 mobo for any Pentium or i3 build
>Add a 240GB SSD to the "Very Good" tier build
>The only worthwhile gfx cards are the GTX1050, RX470, RX480, GTX1060 6GB

General build advice including chipset compatibility, power supply advice, Windows activation information.

Information about how to assemble a PC, how to select components, etc.

If you see any other build advice or part list threads, direct them here with >>>/g/pcbg

Old Thread >>58775611

>> No.58788150
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Kaby Lake has been released! Skylake is depreciated if corresponding chips are similarly priced (e.g., i5 7600K vs i5 6600K)!
>Some motherboards will have a one-click, 5GHz on air OC button that works for 80% of i5 7600Ks
>100 series chipsets (Z170, B150, ect) don't work out of the box with Kaby Lake
>Z series chipsets have an "Enhanced Turbo", which allows all cores to run at the highest single core boost clockspeed (works for Skylake CPUs as well)
>Pentiums now have hyperthreading, and are thus the new default budget / entry level gaming CPUs
>Pentium G4560 is the best price / perf four thread CPU on a modern platform
>All Kaby Lake CPUs work natively with 2400MHz DDR4 memory
>Do not underestimate the impact of fast (>2400, e.g, 3000MHz) RAM in conjunction with a Z series chipset, which often provides as much of a performance boost as a CPU overclock

>> No.58788475

>Get some aftermarket fans with some self-tapping screws
>Didn't fit the screws in outside of the case first
>Really sloppy threads, looks kind of like your girl's asshole when I was done with it
Lesson learned.

>> No.58789038

So I currently have 3x 23" 1080p 60hz monitors and would like to upgrade to a higher resolution monitor for my main display and then have 2x portrait displays for the sides as I currently need more desk space. Would it be worth getting a 1440p 120+ hz monitor if the other two are still 60hz? Also I don't play games so would the extra hz even matter?

>> No.58789310

*buys LED fan*

>> No.58789370

you scoundrel you

>> No.58789408

What RX480 should I get?

>> No.58789428
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>Try to buy an SSD on mvwave
>Checkout page asks for bank login
>wtf is this
>Even their stupid McAfee logo refuses to load and assert security

>> No.58789460



>> No.58789470

Not trolling. Source:


Looks like those security seals were literally just embedded images to some other site that used to host them, so if they were working, they violate McAfee and Norton's terms.

>> No.58789483

Kaby Lake is a scam

>> No.58789486

TIL: Paying an Indian to logon to your bank account and read your transaction history is technology.

>> No.58789545

Babby lake is finished because Ryzen will support Win 7.

>> No.58789635

Look it up, scam company.

>> No.58789654

Stop posting this

>> No.58789732


I just did. Looks like this bank detail thing was all over Reddit for a while. How the hell is this legal?

>> No.58789852

Is there a way to watercool a GPU without using a custom loop?

>> No.58790163

Which SSD should i buy? I was about to go for MX300 520 GB, but my friend told me some shit about worse memory type, failure rate and whatever, and i don't know what to do. What are some alternatives for that price?

>> No.58790180


Hybrid cooling is a thing. I personally think its a waste of time as vrms are temperature sensitive for effeciency and pushing mental overclocks requires lots of power.

>> No.58790198

Expandable AIO loop like Alphacool Eisbaer?

>> No.58790390

Should I switch my PSU to semi-fanless mode or full-fan mode?

>> No.58790413


Why do you care? Unless you are hot boxing your psu it only matters if you like the lower noise at low loads.

>> No.58790454

I don't see why you wouldn't get semi-fanless, it's not like its heating up a shit load by supplying 20% max load or less

>> No.58790515


>> No.58790721

Hi /g/
I got a new condo and I've given my old PC to my family. I'm using a meme acer laptop which is by far the worst investment in my life (i7 6700hq, gtx960m, 16gb ddr4, 120gb ssd, 1tb hdd, overheats like a bitch even with chrome).

My old PC had i5-2500k, amd 6970 and 8 gigs of ram. I'm looking into buying something that would fit into smallest case possible, something like Mac Mini (which is looking good imo).
Not a gaymer, I'd still want to run some new titles just to check em out. My old PC struggled with The Witcher 3, I need a PC that would run TW3 in 1080p at max details with 50+ fps (not falling for 60fps meme).

I was considering i5-7500 and RX 460. Maybe i5-7500 is overkill? I'm looking for the cheapest build possible ofc, only intel cpus

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Build my first pc here for casual gaming, every is already working, the thing is, i was thinking of getting a RX 460 but it turns out i can actually get an RX 480, the problem being that, according to PCpartPicker the whole consumption will be around 419W and my current EVGA is 430W, so my question is, is the consuption presented by PCpartPicker enough to fuck thing up or will the EVGA endure untill i can get something around 600W?

>> No.58790985

So how much longer do I have to wait for Another Massive Dissapointment?

>> No.58791002


Kabylake has already been released anon.

>> No.58791008

It will do. But it is working hard and could have early death, thus sending errant voltage and causing more damage.

>> No.58791011


what's with all the monitors

I'd just get 3x 1080

>> No.58791016


Quality psu's will run at full load (as long as they are kept within optimum temperature range) basically forever.

>> No.58791026

Kaby lake is fine if you are upgrading 4th gen cpu or older. Not worth it if you have a skylake obviously.

>> No.58791037


My table is too small for 3 monitors. I'm be using the 1080 with on in portrait. Getting the bigger one to try out 1400p when I'm over 1080 I guess.

>> No.58791039

anything i can do to minimize the consuption (like turning of one fan or two) would help?
Does that include EVGA 430W 80+ though?

>> No.58791062


>Kaby lake is fine if you are upgrading 4th gen cpu


>> No.58791063

Should be fine. What is the maximum ambient temps it experiences?

>> No.58791069



>> No.58791080

Around 35° during summer.

>> No.58791088

She'll be right m8.

>> No.58791117

Thanks mate, i was really worried for a moment there, i will still get something around 600W in the future so i have some margin for upgrades, but it's nice to know i don't have to stop everything just to buy it now.

>> No.58791142

>tfw 24 pcie lanes

>> No.58791168
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Fuck off you retarded Intel shill. Kelvin Lake is TRASH.

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>>Some motherboards will have a one-click, 5GHz on air OC button that works for 80% of i5 7600Ks

I haven't looked into this but I find this very hard to believe.

>> No.58791233

Is anyone using a Samsung S24F350FHU?

>> No.58791239

I got 4.9 on air with auto tuning on my 7600k. But I put it back to stock as 40°C+ ambient temps dont help even with stock clocks.

>> No.58791304

I have an AMD A10 APU, is it worth building a new pc with a 7th gen intel and RX480 or just put the RX480 in with the A10 APU?

>> No.58791351

just buy Ryzen

>> No.58791495

>just get a shit smear

>> No.58791549

AyyyMD current cpus are total shit either wait for Ryzen or if you're impatient go Intel
my Intel Suggestions are:

Budget Pentium G4560 shit is so cache

Mid i5-7500 or the i5-6500 can be overclocked but needs a Z170

high i5-6600k/7600k or i7-6700k/7700k

>> No.58791885

The cheapest Intel Processor I can get in my country is Pentium G4400.

Is this good enough? I'm not a gaymer, I just play league of legends every now and then

>> No.58791915

Yes but G4560 is much better. The only reason to get the G4400 would be BCLK OC.

>> No.58792087


If you aren't pairing it with dgpu I really wouldn't want to get a pentium of any flavour even for LoL - AMD's apus are much, much better for the job.

>> No.58792144


I can't find this anywhere. I think it's not available here yet

>> No.58792189

Lol wat, where do you live? Anyways, then get the G4400 and a 1050Ti or RX470.

>> No.58792211

This. I used a a10 6700 for two years, it played everything I wanted at medium 1080p, 30-40 fps. It'll handle lol and similar perfectly fine.

>> No.58792218


That looks pretty cool

>> No.58792250

That depends on what you want. I've been using a 980 with an a10 for a while, it works fine. But it bottlenecks hard. If you don't care about a solid 60 fps in current gen games, it can be a good idea to get the card and save for a full upgrade.

>> No.58792332


EKWB are getting in on that and their AIO (the predator) is basically a pre-filled custom loop.

>> No.58792353


Considers USA a worthwhile country. Fuck off rednex pleb.

>> No.58792776

>I was considering i5-7500 and RX 460
Don't. The RX460 will bottleneck you hard. Even if you're not a gamer, get at least a RX470 4G.
>I'm looking for the cheapest build possible ofc
Cheapest build would be something like a 6500 + H110 + RX4704G.
>only intel cpus
Why not wait for Zen? It's almost here and if AMD drops the ball with this you can always get an i5.

>consumption will be around 419W and my current EVGA is 430W
It will endure it but you're already in the danger zone with such a load on that PSU. Upgrade it as soon as you can.

>> No.58793136

Been editing this build for my first PC (for gaymen purposes) over the past month. How is it? I need suggestions on what monitor to get in particular.


>> No.58793177

>look mom i posted it again
What the fuck is wrong with you? You've been given advice mutliple times already?

>> No.58793845

Any of you lads rip cassettes or vinyl? What soundcard do you use?

>> No.58793985

Odd question. I rip/record cassettes with an older Kenwood hifi-system since i have a cassette radio in the car.
Don't own any vinyls, though.. maybe look at some Audio Technica gear, read that they make some decent vinyl equipment.

>> No.58794006


so western digital has the worst modern drives

at least seagate fixed their issues

>> No.58794382

t. goldstein

>> No.58794605

I want to build a rig for csgo (low settings) at constant 200-250fps. Im willing to spend around 700. Should I get the i5 6500 with rx470/480 or would the i3 6300 with rx470 do? Trying to avoid the pentium cpus

>> No.58794728

Anyone tried building one of the smaller mITX cases? Were there any unexpected bits or things that would be helpful to know?

>> No.58794826

Are you retarded?

>> No.58794891


if you go to pcpartpicker, look through the completed builds. you can see what sort of GPU clearances you'll have or what sort of air flow will be required.

i was about to buy a Phanteks Enthoo ITX until I realized they had terrible air cooling potential, so I went ATX instead

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anything wrong with this?

>> No.58794963

Get a Samsung 960 Evo instead of the Intel 600p, the 212 EVO is not enough for a 7700K OC, the PSU is overpriced and overkill, see if you can find a EVGA G2/3, Super Flower Leadex II or SeaSonic G with 550/650W for less.

>> No.58794974


People will tell you that you'll need a better cooler, and the Intel M.2 isn't nearly as good as the Samsung or Crucial, and you can drop down to a 650w power supply, and who is Palit?

>> No.58794976

Which z270 motherboard should I get if I don't want to pay too much and don't care about aesthetics?
Gigabyte GA-Z270-HD3?

>> No.58795047


Yes, why?

>> No.58795062

>who is Palit
Good company for Nvidia GPUs, isn't really popular in US but in EU it is. It's basically the other way round with PNY, which isn't know for their GPUs here in EU.

Anything really, they are almost the same.

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What CPU Cooler should I use for this build? I'm not familiar with overclocking but would like a cooler that is under 35 dollars USD


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>> No.58795186


>here come the trolls

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Is a pentium processor good enough for a server? Looking at this CPU/mobo combo: https://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/D/X10SDV-2C-7TP4F.cfm

>> No.58795246


is this any good?

>> No.58795273
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>boot up LTSB
>Nvidia doesn't support LTSB
Say it isn't so, /g/ I just want to be free

>> No.58795302

Depends on what you're serving, and to how many clients. For a home server doing basic services (files, httpd, email/calendar/contacts) to a couple of users, it should be more than good enough. Could even call it overpowered.

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>> No.58795356

What if it's a raid-z3 setup with 11 8 TB HDDs?

>> No.58795442

Made some improvements assuming a budget of $1000.

>> No.58795446
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It's not fair frogposter-kun. They can't do this to us. We did nothing wrong

>> No.58795448

Are 21:9 monitors a meme?

>> No.58795452
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>I just want to be free
Windows is never free.

>> No.58795462

Thats a lot. Doesn't the rule of thumb say 1GB of RAM for every TB of storage? Don't know about the cpu/soc.

>> No.58795499
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What's the meme SSD to get? I've never installed one and it seems the most people just use them for the OS.

>> No.58795504 [DELETED] 

Samsung 850 Pro

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Nvidia drivers should work just fine on LTSB

>> No.58795509
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I have to dual boot though.
Yes for vidya, but also all cad software that is also free is shit and not industry standard

Avenge me my brothers, avenge me

>> No.58795529

SATA: Samsung SSD 850 Pro
M.2: Samsung SSD 950 Pro

>> No.58795535

thanks for doing this, I can afford to spend an extra 2 cents for a caviar blue HDD though

>> No.58795552
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>it's a gamer-pretends-to-be-a-mechanical-engineer-to-justify-his-/v/indows installation episode

>> No.58795559

Maybe I need to run updates. Lemme do that real quick.

Or am I just limited to a previous version of drivers?

>> No.58795580
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Joke is on you, I'm still in university. I want to do GPU pass through but I need a second Nvidia card to run my setup because I feel for the AMD meme

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latest nvidia drivers work no problem, are you getting an error installing?

you were never going to use linux

>> No.58795708

So since my mobo has only 1 4pin sys fan socket is there like and adapter to have them both run on only 1 socket?
I dont want molex because I want to control them.

>> No.58795712

>he comes here to shill nvidia

>> No.58795716

Toshiba P300 is better than the WD Blue, m8.

>> No.58795764



Don't run too many off one header as you'll burn it out. Also don't try and run 3A fans off it either.

>> No.58795843
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I actually regularly use Linux on my laptop. It just werks a lot better on it. I only keep Windows for a few odds and ends + tablet PC functionality.

Anyways, yeah this is what happens on my end. GTX 770, latest LTSB. Any ideas?

>> No.58795846

its only a 140 front and a 120 back one will it be alright?Also what are 3A fans?

>> No.58795866

probably what i'm going to upgrade to over the coming months or should I wait for ryzen?


>> No.58795916

Kaby Lake is actually a great improvement if you don't use a desktop cpu

>> No.58795939

The OP found some pajeet rumor about a single asus board and their stupid auto clock that didn't work on 98% of Kaby lake CPUs, nor anything on skylake

>> No.58795963

I use a desktop mixer with a built-in 24bit 44KHz DAC
Internal soundcards are for fucking retards

>> No.58795967

okay so I let windows update the driver for me and it installed the 372.90 driver. So I guess that works, although I wasn't aware nvidia cucked you from using the latest drivers on LTSB.

Might have to abandon it if that is the case

>> No.58795970

Is there a big difference in cooling between the NH-U14S and the NH-D15?

>> No.58795999

I think your problem has literally nothing to do with LTSB

>> No.58796021


A as in Amp - most motherboard fan headers are only good for 1A (and to be fair 99% of fans you are likely to use will be below that) but some of the more industrial fans (like most of the infamous Delta lineup) will be above that.

Its an often overlooked issue when people rip delta and other such company's fans out of old office pc's (typically dell ones) and bolt them to their elite gaymen motherboard.

>> No.58796059

CS:GO has a shit engine, so 200fps really does feel different to 60 fps.

>> No.58796177

Your average high performance fan is 1/3 amp
Most fan headers are good to 1A, or above

>> No.58796235

Any idea what it could be?

checked btw

>> No.58796283

5-10c under heavy overclocked load

>> No.58796284
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Nvidias latest drivers are often broken

>> No.58796327

Why 78 dollars on a psu? I only need a semi-modular one

>> No.58796415

I managed to get it working. I had to fandangle a bit with the auto update manager but we're all good.

Thanks /g/

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You guys just got absolutely BTFO by this anon >>58796293

>> No.58796508

HGST is Western Digital. How can Western Digital beat itself?

>> No.58796545
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Hello /g/ will the rx470 4gb bottleneck a 2nd generation i5 2400? I see benchmarks from multiple videos and websites that contradict extremely.

>> No.58796548

Enjoy paying more than us for the same hardware, foreigner.

>> No.58796552

It has a point. Instead of spending hundreds of hours on this shit, one could simply get one of the nicer LGA2011 workstations from Dell or HP.

>> No.58796902

What a good cooler cheaper than a 212 evo or h7 for a i5 7500.
I mean stock run cool but I need something silent.

>> No.58796974

Cryorig M9i for 19 bucks.

>> No.58797139
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What does /g/ think about this for a cheap first build with decent potential for upgrades?

>> No.58797173

fringe compatibility issue. r9 390x and sabertooth p67 not working but p67 works with other card and 390x works in diffirent rig.

>> No.58797196

is "an i5 is all you need for gaming" meme finally dead?

in all the recent Digital Foundry vids (hell even other YTers), the i7 consistently scores anywhere from 20% to 50% higher. even older i7s seem to be a better buy than new i5s, even at the same price. in Canada, I can grab a 2600k for a bit over $100, but a 7600k is $330. even a 4790k+mobo can probably be had for $350 if you find a good deal

>> No.58797306

I'm assuming you're asking if a i5 2400 will bottleneck the rx470 (since the other way around doesn't make sense). I'd say yes, probably. a stock 2500k will bottleneck a r9 290, but again, it depends on the game. GTA5, Witcher, maybe Battlefield, yeah your cpu will bottleneck

only things I can think of are driver or psu issues. have you tried reformatting?

>probably what i'm going to upgrade to over the coming months
Ryzen is out in a month (or at least claimed to be), so if you're gonna wait a month anyway, you may as well wait

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Waste of time on the upgrade route in my opinion - if you want to upgrade such a build you'd realistically be going all out rendering most of what you have completely useless. Realistically any cpu upgrade would require new ram unless you specifically hunt down a DDR3 supporting chip and (again) new cpu realistically means new mobo.

Plus Intel's igpu is shockingly bad outside of iris pro (which doesn't come cheap). In short, that build isn't good for too much despite its low cost and upgrading it is a waste of time. Honestly at this sort of performance tier i'd look towards AMD - their APUs will massacre the pentium for igpu performance and you really aren't going to be needing enormous cpu horsepower anyway.

Pic semi-related - its a bit old but it hightlights the difference nicely.

>> No.58797461

I hear a lot of good things about the MSI GAMING X being the coolest and better one which is why I'm waiting for a deal on this one in particular but I dont know jack shit about all of this.

>> No.58797518

What PSU wattage should I look for if I want to get an rx480 and be futureproof for a while?

>> No.58797536


The XFX GTR is currently cream of the crop.


Depends on a lot of factors. What cpu will you use? Will you overclock? What does the rest of the system look like? etc etc

>> No.58797562

fuck it costs like 30 here...

>> No.58797618

Is it worth swapping a i5-7600k to a i7-7700k on a 1070 build?

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Guys I am literally shaking. I removed my cooler and wantedto clean the cpu. I dropped it from about a centimeter onto the pins. I don't know if the one circled was like that already. What can I do?

>> No.58797680

Fuck no, you need a G4560

>> No.58797688

Do you live in africa?

>> No.58797705

I bought this dated build a year and a half ago for cheap:

MSI H81M-E33
i5 4460
Kingston Savage 2x8GB DDR3 1600

And a bunch of other shit

Thing is, should I invest on a decent motherboard? That one was literally the cheapest I could find. Not that interested in newer games that actually require a better computer, but I don't want the thing to die quickly either. I'm also wondering if it's even worth upgrading that 280x to an rx 480 8GB -if- I decide to go back to a little bit more intensive games in the future, at least on low resolutions.

>> No.58797824

>Thing is, should I invest on a decent motherboard?

If it has all the features and slots you need then no, just wait until it shits the bed then replace it.

>> No.58797863

i realligned the pins on an AMD cpu using tweezers and a credit card but idk if you can do that on an Intel socket.

>> No.58797864


which one between:

Mx300 275gb for 120$
BX200 480gb for 145$?

Is the speed of MX300 worth half the storage for 20$ less?

>> No.58798159

Gammamaxx 300 if you can find it

>> No.58798208

My EVGA GTX 680 2GB just died on me, and it crashes my computer or the screen freezes.

Looking for a replacement now, thinking of getting the ASUS Geforce GTX 780 3GB, MSI GTX 980 4GB or an Evga GTX 980ti 6GB.

Thoughts? Or anyone got a better idea of what to get? My budget ranges from 130£ to 450.

>> No.58798227

just get a 1070

>> No.58798248

I managed to bend four pins getting fucking cat hair out of a socket once. I used a pin/needle to bend them back.

That mobo still works fine years later, just be gentle. Using a magnification glass helps alot too.

>> No.58798359


>> No.58798397


Keep it as is. No reason to change anything

>> No.58798401

mobo doesn't detect the card. No display on post. no drives connected and rtc has been reset by jumper and lifting batt.

ivy i7k 390x, 4 ram, 1 ssd, 2 hdd, 4 fans. 550-600w okay?

>> No.58798519

So mommy why do tyou buy the nviddia cards so much i neeed to know about how the nvidiaas are made oh sht the grabblers are coming mommy the nvidia cards throu out the nvidiias, no the the amd will wil mommy shit on me oh fugg we intelk now nigga. donald i cant even belive thaty you have benn able4 to do thias i cant even JUST. nvidia is the lifeblod mof the 4chan you cant stop mus mommy no the reeeeee uis going to cvonsume you in the first of fermies ahlkla is the nvidia meme i caNT EVEN OH SHIOT THAT NVIDIA BOI JUST KEKED A NIGGA IN FUK

>> No.58798790

Sometimes I think I'd be happier if I randomly generated a build within a level of performance I wanted instead of individually researching every part for hours on end.

>> No.58798807

what's a good ITX case other than the Fractal Node 202?

>> No.58798818

I got $1000 to build a gaming rig including monitor, mouse, keyboard and speakers. Wat do? Also what is the best screen size for a 1080p monitor?

>> No.58798919

Forget the speakers. I just realized that monitors now come with those.

>> No.58798984

m.2 or ssd?

>> No.58799000

phanteks enthoo EVOLV

>> No.58799068


How badly do you value your wallet and pcie lanes?

>> No.58799196

Currently running my 7600K at 4.8Ghz at 1.35v (H100i v2 cooling it). It's been stable since Thursday. 0 issues. Think this is too spicy for a long term overclock? It hit 60 celcius when running Cinebench.

>> No.58799215

Mechanical keyboard + mouse + 24" 1080p 60Hz = ca.$250
It's true that monitors come with speakers, but those are disgusting trash.
If you are fine with this get a 6500 + Rx480 build.

>> No.58799242

Will it matter if I have a z270 board?

>> No.58799273


The question remains the same - M.2 is only worth it for your typical vidya pc is you have deep wallets and no free sata slots. After all most users don't care about write speeds, only read and sata is good enough for that.

>> No.58799280

What's the best place to pirate a windows 10 key? Also best software for making windows 10 look and act like windows 7.

>> No.58799296

I'm sure this has been asked a 1000 times before but I'm interested in building a computer, I've never done it before but I'm a fairly technical minded person, I've done things like replace a car engine and other car repairs for example.

I want to make the absolute cheapest PC possible, that's my goal. All it has to be able to do is browse the internet and play videos at a resolution where you can identify wtf you're looking at.

Do any anons have an estimate on what the cheapest PC build would cost? Does anyone know a guide for this?

I don't expect anyone to spoonfeed me a list of parts btw.

>> No.58799304

>Mechanical keyboard + mouse + 24" 1080p 60Hz = ca.$250
Any brand or model recommendations? The number of options out there is overwhelming.

I'm looking at his monitor right now. Is 144hz Free Sync a meme? I don't mind paying a little more if it's worth it.


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>> No.58799359
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1) determine overall budger
2) pic resolution you intend to use
2a) pick monitor
3) pick what sort of gpu you will need for the above
4) pick what sort of cpu you will need
5) pick psu to feed above gpu and cpu
6) buy the rest of the shit you need
7) Remember, never cheap out on a psu to save cost

>> No.58799376

Keyboard: CM Quickfire TK
Mouse: Whatever you like
Monitor: 24" BenQ GL series

>Is 144hz Free Sync a meme?
Idk, don't have one. With that monitor you'd have no more than $700 for a build, still enough but you may have to cut some corners.

>> No.58799537

>I want to make the absolute cheapest PC possible, that's my goal.
Don't even bother getting a case, less shit to fill up your local land fill.

Alternatively read this:

>> No.58799579

What would be the best machine for compiling?

>> No.58799616

a computer

>> No.58799643

upgrading my htpc this summer.

Will an i7 6700k need a gpu for 4k using the the near latest hdmi?

>> No.58799742


Never use intel integrated graphics for anything.

>> No.58799749
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General thoughts on this deep learning build? Planning to train convolutional neural networks/generative adversarial networks on large sets of images on it. What's a good cheap set of dual monitors I could throw on this?


>> No.58799776


>actual productivity

/g/ is the wrong place to ask.

>> No.58799904

Well if I had read I wouldn't have asked the question would I?

>> No.58800090
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>tfw just bought a Pentium G4560

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>tfw gonna cancel the order and get an i5

>> No.58800141

>I want to make the absolute cheapest PC possible, that's my goal. All it has to be able to do is browse the internet and play videos at a resolution where you can identify wtf you're looking at.
Build a PC with the cheapest component, either use pcpartpicker or the website of your choice to find them (ex; newegg.com, amazon, etc). pcpartpicker will help you with the compatibility of your parts, but don't rely on it.

A majority of CPU come with integrated graphics, meaning you don't need a graphics card, especially if you're only going on the internet. So choose one that has integrated graphics.

For a basic pc you'll need a case, motherboard, ram, cpu, power supply and storage. I'd recommend AMD cpus if you're going for a budget build.

>> No.58800149

don't listen to this idiot >>58799742
you'll be fine with integrated graphics

>> No.58800171


Dig one out of the trash for free

>> No.58800228
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>tfw planning zen build
>want m.2 ssd
>want ethusiast chipset AM4 mITX with loads of usb 3.0 a/c ports
>want the base model SR7
>want a mITX case
>want 16-32 GB rameroonies
>only want a 470 or refurb 480 though

adopting new shit is expensive

>> No.58800262
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Putting together a work/sims station together for the missus. She'll be doing docco work and some light gaming on it. Thoughts so far? Everything is in AU dollarydoos.

>> No.58800270

Noctua NH-D15 is what you want, also more fans, a real case and idk but maybe research again which CPU is best, 6800K, 6850K or 6900K.
Also what about data storage? You could add a HGST 7K6000 or He8 for additional space.
Your PSU is good but imho you should invest in a platinum PSU since your machine will most likely run 24/7 under high workloads.

>> No.58800280

For monitors i recommend Dell U2415H (or what they are called). Very good monitors, support pivot and are reasonably priced, have those at work.

>> No.58800286
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Any last words?

>> No.58800297

That build is absolute shit.

>> No.58800317

stupid monitor, get a different one and buy an i7 with the difference.

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>> No.58800328

Looks good but maybe get a 650W PSU and see if you can find the G3 for a good price.
The G3 is the successor to the G2 and just excellent.

>> No.58800332

get a gtx 1050 or an unlocked rx 460 instead, r7 360 is garbage

>> No.58800354

why get a micro atx board?

>> No.58800378

Whats the best variant of the RX460? There are Sapphire and MSI models for around $165/169AU from MSY

>> No.58800405

sapphire seems to make the best rx 460, which is actually one of the two models where you can unlock the shader units.

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>> No.58800441

Trying to make a cheap yet reliable 1070 build.
Should I take the plunge?


>> No.58800576


Not unless you're spending a fuck tonne on a monitor that can actually use those 200fps.

>> No.58800687
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I've got about $2.6K that I want to blow on the most ostentatious and vulgar PC filled with enough RGB LEDs, custom sleeves, and water-cooling loops to make /g/ Macbook converts from pure disgust
>windowed case
>must use an i7-7700K
>no hard drives; installing games on a RAID-Z2 SSD NAS
>only one GPU, and it has to be a 1080

>> No.58800693

What are some good PSUs with the exhaust on the back?

My case doesn't have a grill on top and I desperately need to get a non-grey generic brick PSU.

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>> No.58800720

>server PSU
>3U/4U PSU
>80+ or better

>> No.58800770

Is getting anything above a 240GB SSD worth it?

Is installing games to an SSD really going to improve my experience all that much?

>> No.58800803

Here you go buddy, but i'm only doing this because you got good taste in animu

>> No.58800804


If its just a boot drive, no.

If you plan to murder your I/O then M.2 or bust.

>> No.58800813

What brands should I go for?

I'm trying to keep it under 100 burgers, and I think 550w would be enough.

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Top 3 consumer brands in no particular order

1) super flower
3) seasonic

Note this is general, some specific models might be shit.

>> No.58800943

In 3 months you're gonna be the poorfag with an outdated GPU and mid-tier CPU In a flashy case
Get a 6900k and a 1080ti, then when zen comes out you can be like "oh yeah my CPU matches a 6900k too"

>> No.58800948

>1) super flower
>2) EVGA
>3) seasonic
Why did you list two companies twice?

>> No.58800955

All of them?
One of these companies has never made a PSU

>> No.58800964

I've got another $1500 for a Ryzen build this May, which should be cheaper and better than the Kaby Lake one. I had a windfall yesterday thanks to Trump and want to blow a fraction of it on what I hope is the last Intel PC I ever build before the death of silicon.

>> No.58800983

Shut up retard

>Asus released a new BIOS said to hit offer a one-button 5.0GHz solution that works with 80 per cent of Kaby Lake processors.

I know Europe is cuck'd but come on, not pajeet you memeing faggot

>> No.58801008

>which should be cheaper and better than the Intel one
Show me one fact, proof or assumption that would lead you to believe this
All we know is that it is as good as an Intel CPU and will "not be sold as budget hardware"

>> No.58801021

The X370 motherboards have less features than their X99 counterparts. Just compare the specs and additions between the top-of-the-range X370 board and a semi-high-tier X99 from the same maker.

>> No.58801039

Yes, unless netflix 4k. You will need a 7700k

>> No.58801045


Super flower is virtually unknown in burgerland.

>> No.58801049

So you think less features on a motherboard means it'll be better?
Or that the motherboard choice will be a significant factor into an AMD pc price?

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Thanks for the advice. I'll look into swapping out the fan and PSU for what you suggested and adding in more storage.

Is there something wrong with a micro ATX board?

>> No.58801052

EVGA sells Super Flower PSUs as the SuperNOVA G2/P2/T2
In fact, those PSUs are EVGA's best selling ever.

>> No.58801061

Except for the EVGA rebrands of superflower that are the most popular in burgerland

>> No.58801064

Just get an AMD APU

>> No.58801067

I was talking about the cheaper aspect. Ryzen won't hold water against an i7-6900K for sure, but for the cost of an i7-7700K? I'd be dumb not to jump ship.
Plus, I won't get fucked over to buy another motherboard two years from now because AMD releases new sockets like they release a decent CPU.

>> No.58801081


Rebrands sure. but under their own label they basically do not exist in NA. Still, supoer flower and theur EVGA rebrands are some of the best psus you can buy, basically only beat out by delta (lol consumer level delta psus).

>> No.58801091

From what I can see some of the EVGA G series ones have the fan on top. At least what it looks like the fan. It's a circular opening.
This is why I need the exhaust on the back, not on top. Otherwise I'd get like a G2 or something.

Correct me if I'm wrong though, I'm just learning this stuff.

>> No.58801103

Are mITX temps as shitty as I think they are?

>> No.58801128

Almost all consumer PSUs have a fan that faces down/up depending on how you orient it in the case. THEY ARE NEARLY ALL REVERSEABLE.
A SuperNova G3 will work with the PSU fan facing inside the case as it would facing outside the case. Fucking moron.

>> No.58801153

That's the thing, it does hold its own against a 6900k, this is a huge jump in performance for AMD, it's not going to be priced cheaply
>but for the cost of a 7700k?
Who the fuck told you ryzen would be $320?
>I won't get fucked over two years from now because Intel will release new CPUs constantly and I'll be stuck with my zen CPU for 4-5 years
I'm as hopeful for zen as anybody else but "I won't have to upgrade because there will be no upgrade!" Is a fucking stupid argument

>> No.58801176

>Who the fuck told you ryzen would be $320
Price leak shows that the cheapest 8-core, the R7 1800 will compete with the i7-7700K in terms of price. The R7-1800X costs about $600.

>> No.58801182


Remember sandy vagina is all you need unless its AMD in which case if it doesn't beat kabylake for half the cost its inherently a failure.

>> No.58801184

Depends on the case ventilation, size, watercooling vs aircooling, GPU, and most importantly load
ITX in small cases does tend to get significantly hotter than the bigger variants
Mostly depends on whether you're falling for the danmeme or not
You're falling for the danmeme aren't you?

>> No.58801196

Hey now, there's no need to get upset. I said I'm stupid with this shit. I just don't want to end up with expensive legos that don't work on my machine.

So say, I get a G2 550w, and put it with the mains plug coming out the back of the case, it should still work just fine?

>> No.58801202

>price leak
3 weeks ago Lisa was asking the press what they would hope the price would be

>> No.58801207

And two days ago, AMD didn't deny a leak that said the first Ryzen SKU would be launched on March 2nd.

>> No.58801218


>You're falling for the danmeme aren't you?

No. I just want something compact but I tend to do things like play heavy games for 48 hours straight and don't want to deal with shit like throttling.

>> No.58801238

I didn't see you denying the leak 2 hours ago that said you fuck little boys that arent even wearing socks

>> No.58801250

So salty, and over what exactly? You being a little bitch?

>> No.58801264

Yo dudes, i've got a build with a GigaByte 1070 and a i5-7600k that i plan to be buying towards the end of the month, originally, i planned to buy a Asus PG279Q ROG Swift to go with it, under the assumption its basically gonna last until it breaks or 4k becomes the new norm. some stuffs come up that forces me to spend a good amount of money elsewhere, so my budgets has been cut down a decent bit.

To the actual point:
is 1440p really that amazing? im thinking about keeping the gtx1070 + the 7600, and getting a "temporary" 1080p main screen for gaming, that i can then eventually use as a third screen when i have enough money to fully step up to 1440p

my thoughts behind 1080p, is that it wont hurt as much, using it for a bonus monitor, and 1080 gaming takes a significantly less power, right?

>> No.58801273

If you're taking info from a blog and saying its "proven" because a multimillion dollar company didn't even humor it with a response then you shouldn't even be allowed to speculate

>> No.58801279

sorry for the textwall, dont wanna come off as some lazy dude who just wants people to do his work for him, but its kinda hard to make the decision having never used a 1440p monitor before.

>> No.58801285

>he didn't hear the news

>> No.58801299

But I mean, I'm saying that as someone with a 1440p and 144hz monitor for my 1070. Both are good upgrades, 144hz is the better one for games

>> No.58801356

no kidding dude, im hearing amazing things, but it just seems like going 1440p/144hz+/IPS forces you to fork over at least 400 dollars (BenQ GW2765HT), but it seems like if you're put out that money, you sorta HAVE to pick up freesync or G-sync, making it 700-800 dollars in my case (g-sync)...

>> No.58801371

Should I get a 1tb 2,5" HDD? It has any drawnbacks when comparated with 3,5" ones?

>> No.58801379
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pcpp says my system draw is 500w

psu is a 500w

housefire when?

>> No.58801386

You don't have to pick out gsync if you don't need it
The problem is, there is no GPU on the market that will reach 1440p 144fps 100% of the time. There is no GPU you could buy right now that would make gsync worthless at 1440p and 144hz

>> No.58801399

They're slower hotter and less reliable

>> No.58801406


Well you can get a 1440p/144hz/G-Sync monitor for as low as $420 if IPS isn't a deal breaker.

>> No.58801416

XFX PSUs are good?

>> No.58801495

>It has any drawnbacks when comparated with 3,5" ones?
Yes, plenty
>125MB/s peak read/write speeds compared to 190+MB/s for decent 3.5" models
>runs about 10 degrees hotter when written to constantly
>slow as balls to access data
On the plus side, they use about 75% of the power of a comparable 1TB 3.5" drive.

>> No.58801502

yeah, thats the main issue, g-sync seems like too much value, which is weird, because its reported to be worth around 200$, yet all these full package monitors cost 700-800, instead of 550-600...

i spent a good while looking up differences between IPS and TN on high end monitors, and i respect the fact, that TN picture is perfectly fine, from right angle, and has a slightly higher responsetime, but you just cant deny the picture quality of IPS, and you're already making a bigass investment in my eyes. here, the PG278Q is merely 130$ cheaper, too, unless you had the "old" acer HUA in mind?

>> No.58801529

Well if you got a 1080p 144hz monitor, you definitely wouldn't need gsync running a 1070

>> No.58801548

>you can't deny the picture quality of IPS
Can you support the picture quality of IPS?
You have a good point about TN being fine from the right angle and not from the wrong angle, why can't you find a legitimate support for this claim?
Or are you just thinking "IPS is better because /g/ told me, TN is like level 1 and IPS is like level 3 it's so much better!"

>> No.58801609

Would the price jump from a G4560/i3-6100 to a i5-7500 be worth it?

>> No.58801632

You could go with a i5 6500, definitely worth it.

>> No.58801687

my thoughts exactly.

of course theres both good and worse TN/IPS monitors, but at the high end, a fair comparison could be the 278Q to the 289Q.

in this case, the picture of the 278Q just looks a bit weird to me, because of the contrast ratio, otherwise it seems pretty close.

here's what i'd call a good video for comparrison

its not a case of "IPS is ALWAYS BETTER" but i'd say most TN monitors arent as good as that one, no?

keep in mind, that im not only gonna be playing games on it, ill be doing coding, browsing and movies, too.

>> No.58801705

You watching that YouTube video on your phone?

>> No.58801720


>> No.58801725

The contrast ratio on the IPS screen you're probably using is much worse than what is being displayed on the video, you aren't even seeing it
You're seeing the camera angles and lighting recorded and compressed, recompressed by YouTube, re-encoded as a 720p 30fps video and shown to you
I doubt YouTube videos of the monitors are a good comparison to judge a monitors image quality on

>> No.58801748

How's an EVGA 600w 80 Plus for a budget build?

>> No.58801768
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I'm not really going by what im seeing, though even on my shitty 4yo laptop, there is a visible difference, im more going by the numbers in this video, and reviews from people who have had the priviledge of using both monitors in question.

>> No.58801803

This exact video says they're both extremely good quality panels, and that the TN is surprisingly just as good as the IPS in color. This actual video is saying there's no difference other than the viewing angles.
I remember this video, it's what convinced me to buy the PG278Q because I was worried about color and this guy assured me the color between the 278q and 279q was essentially the same

>> No.58801819

Also watch the video all the way through, I was surprised to learn the monitor I thought looked worse in the video the whole time was the IPS one
YouTube videos are no way to judge a video

>> No.58801836
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Can you guys rate this poorfag build?

>> No.58801853


You don't know what that word means, do you?

>> No.58801880

MacBooks cost $1000 too

>> No.58801889

yes, he does say that the color accuracy of the 2 monitors is the same, its the contrast ratio that is lower than promised on the TN monitor, meaning in a difference between the darkest and lightest colors, that results in some plain colors on the TN having a pinkish shade. im sure you get used to that pretty quickly, if you arent doing design and stuff, but he also makes a point out of explaining, that this TN panel is of exceptionally high quality.

and again, im building my points on how the screens look like in the youtube video, im going by the actual numbers and statements the gentleman in the video is providing.

>> No.58801902

Middlefag build then, can you tell anything wrong with it?

>> No.58801903

>Consider a B150/B250 or H110 mobo for any Pentium or i3 build
Please edit this.

>Consider a B150/B250 or H110 mobo (with out of the box Kaby Lake support) for any Pentium or i3 build
The older H110 mobos need a bios update, and you cannot update a bios unless you have a functional CPU.

>> No.58801942

It's lower than promised contrast ratio but still much better than the IPS

>> No.58801945

The SSD is garbage. The i5 is a bad price:performance ratio. The Mobo is overpriced but that's the cost of mITX.

>T W O H U N D R E D A N D T W E N T Y D O L L A R case
lmaoing @ u

>> No.58801954

Looks fine, post the partpicker link next time. Just make sure to check the GPU length and make sure the case accepts it.

>> No.58801965

>Every item in my build is cheapest on Amazon, meaning that sweet 2 day shipping with Prime.
>EXCEPT the case


>> No.58801967

That SSD is one of THE best budget SSDs on the market. It is a budget SSD but that doesn't make it trash.
And the 6500/Z170 was THE best price/perf build of skylake, what's the meme of the month now?

>> No.58801997

you're back to thinking about the color accuracy, brother, the contrast is better than promised on the IPS, while LOWER, on the TN.

and the difference in color accuracy is microscopic and could probably be written off as losing the silicon lottery.

i dont wanna sound like a jerk here, but have you considered you might be a little biased, owning the TN varriant?

>> No.58802007

Sure thing...


>> No.58802048
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Not OP but this is literally the pot calling the kettle. You should update your page as well.. there's so much outdated, illogical, retarded shit being suggested, it's unreal.
Also.. what were your guys smoking when they put together this: http://blog.logicalincrements.com/2017/01/building-pc-pentium-g4560/
Both, the shit list suggested by OP and http://www.logicalincrements.com/ need to be reworked in time. Guess April after the Ryzen release would be the best time to do so and Coffe/Cannon Lake won't come until Q4 2017 / Q1 2018.

>> No.58802062

I also have a 3200x1800 IPS screen and it's great and all but other than the vibrancy there's nothing better about it (which could be written off as a brightness lottery)
I'm not biased against the 279Q, I just think there's literally nothing to be paying the extra $200 for
Looking at a different site for each figure, I'm seeing normally 880-920:1 for the 278Q, while the IPS is better at 940-1000:1 (yet being worse when factoring in ANSI uniformity to the figure, making it 760:1 on the IPS vs 915:1 on the TN)
These figures aren't something impressive or consistent enough to pay $200 extra for

>> No.58802077

>besides the vibrancy
And the viewing angles, but that's not an issue if you put desktops on top of your desk

>> No.58802086

What's your favorite A E S T H E T I C case?

>> No.58802097

Any specifics for me to fix or look into?

>> No.58802107

anyone else hyped as fuck for raven ridge APUs? Can't wait to build a tiny home mini-stx PC that pulls 60fps on GTA V at 1080p
AMD is going to dominate the casual consumer market

also, what do I do until they come out? It's gonna be at least 6 months

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I mean if you're seeing data I'm not, tell me, I don't want to be unfair but I really think the 278Q has the things that are best about the 279Q for $200 less
This picture is after calibration and factors in panel uniformity

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>> No.58802124

>60fps on GTA V at 1080p
It's going to be weaker than the R7 360, so that's a tall order at best.

>> No.58802126

the APU for the PS5 is already on silicon, Intel is making their own GPU and Samsung will be late to PCIe 4.0
you didn't hear it from me

>> No.58802140

PS5's going to be on carbon nanotube, moron. Nintendo confirmed it

>> No.58802165

The difference in color accuracy is very big between TN and IPS, you shouldn't even think about TN for solely just movies or photo work; those two monitors are just using 10-bit instead of 8-bit colors, so they both have a great color range

>> No.58802192

im getting my data from the review linked previously, since i know Tom has put a significant amount of time into researching and testing the 2 monitors himself, i dont know where you pulled that tom'sHardware chart from, but to be fair, i think im gonna stick with him on this one.

regardless, both of these monitors will probably last until they break, or its time to go 4k, so why cheap out and save 150$(difference here) on an already incredibly expensive monitor, that s gonna last years?

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And the minimum contrast ratio, uncalibrated and without factoring in uniformity
Not a mindblowing difference

>> No.58802251

nah mate thats the conclusion i've reached from researching myself as well, obviously you're gonna get a good picture no matter what when using a 700$+ monitor, im really just trying to entertain this dudes questioning of my preference of IPS over TN.

my original intend, was to find a nice 1080p main monitor, for Gaming, Coding, Browsing and Movies, as well as an aditional 1080p monitor for browsing/music/youtube stuff

>> No.58802267

You're gonna go with who? Tom? The test I posted showing the PG278Q as literally having better contrast than the IPS?
That's the thing though, I want to know why you prefer it? All you've given me is that it's "better" or than any alternative is "cheaping out" and you want "the best" and asus told you the model with the bigger number was the best?

>> No.58802325

Well I guess "better uniformity" is what I mean, and "small contrast differences"

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I'm digging this

>> No.58802380
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Dancase A4 is an amazing ITX case
Too bad it's a fucking meme

>> No.58802392

What case?

>> No.58802433

Still there?

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pic related

it looks like a VHS cassette
shame about the ridiculous price too

>> No.58802452

Can you post what you think is a better config? Thanks.

>> No.58802454

whoa, easy there, all i said is that we are citing 2 different sources, and i prefer a full, in-dept review/comparrison to a chart from TomsHardware.

i'm honestly suprised you are defending the picture quality of the TN varriant so avidly, you are the first person i have met, claiming the 278Q has better picture or equal picture quality to the 279Q, that is both newer, and focused on improving picture quality, and dont put words in my mouth by claiming my reasoning is "Bigger Price-tag, Better in every way", i dismissed that in my first message, brother.

Also, what do you mean i havent specified my needs for my 1080p monitor? >>58802192
look no further than there.

i'm looking for probably either a 144hz TN, or a 60hz IPS, was hoping someone had a/some recomendation(s) based on those needs, since theres a lot more choices that match those needs. for size, no smaller than 24" really.

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>high quality aluminum CNC milled and hand polished

I am interested in building a Hackintosh with this when AMD release a Ryzen based APU.

>> No.58802585

Forgot video...


>> No.58802600

Don't you need to use compatible hardware or at least hardware that other people made drivers for to use Hackintosh?

>> No.58802631

Thought someone made a AMD APU Hackintosh before. I could be wrong, if anything I will just make it a steam machine running an APU.

>> No.58802870

Will two 140mm radiators fit where one 280mm radiator would normally go?

>> No.58802882

I doubt that would be possible without modifying the top of the case with holes for proper ventilation, otherwise it would overheat easily

but looks very nice

>> No.58802917

The site gives you the option of having everything pre-built, and people posted instructions on making it a Mac Mini. A lot of macfags from MacRumors are already ordering because Apple refused to make a new Mac mini. The last one with Haswell IIRC.

>> No.58802923

shit I meant two 120mm radiators

>> No.58802980

I was talking about the steam machine possibility. An APU would roast in there

>> No.58803037

That's a sexy case tho...

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Whoever makes the next thread, please use a different image

>> No.58803382

>like they release a decent CPU.

>> No.58803390

Ok, I'll fix that.. the parenthetical statement was supposed to indicate using only an already flashed or otherwise Kaby Lake ready mobo. I can see that it's very confusing and unclear.

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Anyone know of a case with these types of vents? I have a boner for uniform ventilation like if they need to ventilate anything I want the whole side to be ventilated.

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>7 hours later
>no replies
th-thanks /g/

>> No.58803499

Looks fine to me dawg, some people fall thru the cracks

>> No.58803548

>only 450w
enjoy frequent crashes.
srsly tho get at least 550w

>> No.58803585


>> No.58803604

I thought if the whole sides are ventilated theres no pressure to push the hot air out and cool air in?

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I have no idea what is a good budget CPU cooler for a decent overclock on i5 7600k. People say 212 Evo won't cut it and Cryorig is not available in my country. I can't afford to spend more than $40.

Please help.

>> No.58803955

Do you have air conditioning?

>> No.58803968

Yes, absolutely.

>> No.58803979

Does hyper-threading matter in games outside shit like heavy combat simulators and Civ VI? Considering between 7600K and 7700K.

>> No.58804027

Can you set up your PC near it and rig it to blow the cold air into your machine? That should cost less than $40 easily.

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I'll give you a 3/10, you have some work to do.

>> No.58804092

Only trying to help mate. Its viable.

>> No.58804123

Air conditioning into a PC in a high humidity area sounds like a horrible idea. I asked for a sub $40 CPU cooler that would work with i5 7600k, not a workaround for a cooler entirely.

>> No.58804168

just offering another option. and condensation would only occur - if ever - on the outside of a case not on the hot parts of a computer. Its highly unlikely to happen - and you would know that if you knew anything about how hot and cold air interact

>> No.58804185

So you would run a CPU bare with just A/C blowing into the case?

>> No.58804225

no because im not poor. but it works

>> No.58804267

But rich enough to use an A/C as a CPU cooler. lol.

>> No.58804312

no anon. nice reading comprehension. just forget i tried to help you, poorfag cunt

>> No.58804383

/g/ how legit are these keys?


>> No.58804436

Yeah, i don't think thats going to work, when you'll try using it, it'll probably reject it saying its meant for an OEM device.

>> No.58804465

Apart from cheap video capture and sound cards, is there anything else that still uses PCI?

>> No.58804481
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>ask for a decent sub $40 CPU cooler
>"just cool your cpu by using a/c to blow cold air into it"
>"nevermind the fact that you're gonna spend a ton of money running an a/c all year to cool your cpu"

>> No.58804492

why would you do it all year/for ever, cunt? its temporary solution to your current poorfag situation, cunt.

>> No.58804545

Why do you assume my financial situation is temporary? I didn't ask for a temporary solution, I need a sub a decent sub $40 cooler.

>> No.58804560

212 evo definitely cuts it
The people who say otherwise are the people who get mad at Intel when they can't hit 5GHz on one

>> No.58804568

To be fair, you couldve stopped that retarded discussion fairly early.

>> No.58804572

No it doesn't you literal fucking retard
I know you're bored and need to shitpost but people are actually believing you

>> No.58804580

it does work.

>> No.58804583

Broadwell does
The next two gens actually don't

>> No.58804588

I don't need to hit 5GHZ. As long as it works for a ~500mhz OC, I would be more than happy.

>> No.58804649

I use a 212 on my 7600k. I have ambient temp of 40°c+ and it does fine.

>> No.58804661

That sounds pretty fucking neato, I will dig deeper on the 212. Thanks /a/non.

>> No.58805186

Stock clocks at full load with 40c ambient usually gives me around 68c max temp.

Gonna overclock it when winter here comes around.

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