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Post your component list, rate other anons', ask questions in general.

Always state the purpose of your PC, your budget, and your country if outside the USA.
If you are asking for improvements, clarify whether you want to lower price or to improve specs or build quality.

>Assemble your parts list with price comparisons by vendor and compatibility filter.
https://pcpartpicker.com

>Have a budget, but don't know where to start? This will recommend you a parts list based on price.
http://www.logicalincrements.com/

General Tips:
>Consider an i5 instead of an i7 if you are not a content creator
>Consider stock fan+heatsink for any i3 or locked i5 build
>Consider a B150 mobo for any i3 build
>Always consider an SSD for your build

>General build advice including chipset compatibility, power supply advice, Windows activation information.
http://pastebin.com/9Pbm4nHL

>Information about how to assemble a PC, how to select components, etc.
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

If you see any other build advice or part list threads, direct them here with >>>/g/pcbg
Remember: Be nice and courteous, but don't tolerate people who don't accept help.

Last thread: >>58494211

>> No.58509802
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first for LinusTechTips

>> No.58509821
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>Gaming builds based on purpose or display resolution / Hz
>To activate the Description, select build from sidebar then click on the title over the parts list
>Description contains notes, other options, and build skeleton for easy customization / cost savings
>WARNING: Motherboards with Intel's 100 series chipset (B150, Z170, etc) will likely require a BIOS flash to support the new Kaby Lake CPUs!
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/

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>>58509802
I think hes actually not half bad

>> No.58510037
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Any input in general is appreciated.

>> No.58510093

>>58510037
Get the i5 7500
The CPU comes with paste

>> No.58510145
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Should I bite the bullet and buy it (price is in CAD)? Or is Kaby Lake worth the extra $60? I was thinking of just getting a locked one for my first build or waiting for Ryzen, but this is tempting.

I mostly play games like Civilization, Total War, Stellaris. Would these kinds games benefit from overclocking? More so than FPS?

>> No.58510209

>>58510145
Zen is still an unknown, but that looks like a good deal compared to the i5 7600K

>> No.58510224

>>58509785
Wow, I hope those capacitors are still energized when he cuts the wires and the cutters short wires together as it cuts.

>> No.58510243

>>58510145
benchmarks generally state that overclocked skylake is about as good as kaby lake

>> No.58510251

>>58510145
If you have a Z170 Skylake motherboard remember you can overclock locked SKUs

>> No.58510266

>>58510037
Hope you backup your shit because WD Blues/greens fucking suck

>> No.58510364

>>58510209
>>58510243
Thank you friendos

>>58510251
I'm on an AMD board right now, it would be for a fresh build. Although I hear that the overclock on the locked ones is negligible? Would it even be worth it to buy a z170 to overclock something like a 6600 or 7600? I'd assume even if it was you'd need to buy an aftermarket cooler, which would drive the cost up.

>> No.58510517

>>58510364
Dunno about i5s, but locked i3s happily buzz along with 1GHz overclocks

>> No.58510838
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Pretty fun build and cable management was actually pretty okay. I couldn't be artistically autistic about it like in the R5 but it works.

>> No.58510881

>Budget frankenPC started video card driver and crashing recently after 2 years of perfect running
>run HD test, check temps
>HD is good, temps are alright but slightly higher under load
>check PC in and out
>inside is covered in unknown liquid
>panic that residue from vape juice is ruining PC
>turns out its oil from front case fan shitting out its seal and letting dusty oil grime cover everything leading to occasional overheats

Might need a new CPU cooler though since that fan is tiny and old so its probably close to shot

Damn shame there's no good heavy duty PGA988 cooler options though, might have to frankenstein one or spend $20 on the same mobo supplied one thats noisy as shit

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>>58509821
okay so I have a seagate 2 TB that is dying. I'm looking on newegg right now and I see that a 2TB seagate SSHD is cheaper than a 2TB WD HDD. Save me from myself

>> No.58511658
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I found a good deal for a gigabyte GA-3CESL-RH board. That is a dual socket F with 16 dram slots.

It would cost me 25 freedoms. I dug around and it seems that two 6 core oppies and 16 gigs of memory will put me back another 40 freedoms.

Now - this board does not officially support Istanbul oppies, only Barcelona nad Stanta Rosa ones. Do you think those 6-core Instanbuls are going to work properely? I've seen some killer deals on those...

>> No.58512434

The budget is sub $1500. I already have a monitor, mouse, keyboard, and such. This is meant to be a DX12 ready gaming platform for 60fps max settings no stutter.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/txrKNN

I'm looking for a decent cheap-ish ATX compatible case recommendation, preferably with dust filters, decent air flow, and room for lots of fans. This will be my first Intel build, any thoughts would be appreciated.

>> No.58512446

>>58509942
He's bloody hot.

>> No.58512606

Which noctua CPU fan should I get if I don't plan on trying to light it on fire with OC, maybe not even OC'ing at all?

I was going to get the Nh-15, but it seems like it may be overkill.

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Are mousemats just a meme from the days of grandpa using trackballs in their mice? Do they make that much of a difference?

>> No.58512644

>>58512632
It creates friction for your mouse to grip onto instead of just sliding all across your desk

>> No.58512775
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Which GTX 1070 is the quietest?

>> No.58513655

Looking to buy new monitors.

Can't decide between Dell UltraSharp U2515Hx or 27.

>> No.58513661

>>58512775
zotac 1070 amp extreme

>> No.58513693

Is it possible for a PSU to stop working while it's sitting around not being used? I shipped out one of my old Diablotek PSUs and apparently it's not working according to the customer. Yeah, I know it's a cheap PSU but it worked for me for a solid 7 months before I replaced it with something better. Now the customer's claiming that the PSU doesn't work at all, neither in the computer or alone when testing with voltmeter.

>> No.58513807

>>58513693
>he fell for the ebay meme


You should test stuff before you send it out, desu. rip

>> No.58514085

Building a Pc for gaming and a bit of software development:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FWYFYr

I am from EU, so prices are all over the place.
Is the mobo okay? and what thermal paste is recommended?

>> No.58514125

>>58514085
any general feedback would be nice

>> No.58514146
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Which 1080 should I go? ASUS, EVGA, ZOTAC or MSI?
First time building a PC and honestly have no experience with these companies.

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>>58514146
Always EVGA or MSI.

>> No.58514179

>>58514085
Looks fine.

>> No.58514251

>>58510145
Saw the pic and was about to scream at that price, then I saw it's in CAD.

>Is Kaby Lake worth the extra $60?
No

Just pull the trigger on a 6600K and OC to 4.5 and you'll be set.

>> No.58514262

>>58514159
Thanks, Anon!

Will look into both versions of the 1080 when I get the time.

>> No.58514334

>>58514146
>read reviews
>choose the best one
It's not hard, anon

Start at Techpowerup

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Not really building a PC, I've already got the parts but here's the problem.
A friend built it for me and everything was going fine untill it started blue screening, sent it to the repair shop cause paranoid the guy was a fucking idiot and it turns out the motherboard which was Asus Maximus VIII was fucked. So I sent it back, got a refund and now I'm looking for a new motherboard. Here's one I found from MSI.

>https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-x99a-gaming-pro-carbon-intel-socket-2011-ddr4-atx-motherboard-mb-31a-ms.html

Reviews look promising and I can afford this fine, I just wanted some more advice like if you guys know this is actually a piece of garbage that I should stay away from. Here's a list of my other parts as well, though from what I can tell this motherboard would work fine with them...I think.

Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz (Skylake) Socket LGA1151 Processor - Retail

EVGA SuperNova G2 850W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply

Samsung 500GB 850 EVO SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 32 Layer 3D V-NAND Solid State Drive (MZ-75E500B/EU)
Quantity: 1

Seagate SSHD 7200RPM 3.5" 2TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DX001) SSHD Hybrid Drive
Quantity: 1

Asus PCE-N15 300Mbps 802.11B/G/N Wireless PCI-E Network Adapter

Asus Maximus VIII Formula Intel Z170 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard

In-Win 909 Design Aluminium Full Tower Case - Black

Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC 3000RPM PWM 140mm High Performance Fan
Quantity: 2

Team Group Delta 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Red Light (TDTRD416G3000H
Quantity: 1

MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Gaming X RGB 8192MB GDDR5X PCI-Express Graphics Card
Quantity: 1

Noctua NH-D15 Dual Radiator Quiet CPU Cooler with two NH-A15 Fans
Quantity: 1

>Why the fuck didnt you buy a prebuilt PC if you were gonna get someone to build it for you and the fact that you know nothing about computers

Because I'm a fucking idiot. Please help.

>> No.58514686

>>58509785
wtf is that chick DOIN???

>> No.58514715

>>58514663
>buying pc parts with your hard earned money
>not building it yourself
jesus christ

>> No.58514791

>>58514715
Well I was afraid I would fuck something up since I've never built something that complicated before. I saw my friends built computer which worked fine so it was unlikely his fault. Anyway at this point I don't wanna try anything and let a professional do it.

>> No.58514879

>>58514791
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2dJvqU2_x4&t=371s
Even a beginner can easily follow this. You should look into doing this yourself if you're serious about upkeeping your rig, otherwise such a waste.

>> No.58514912

>>58514663
X99 motherboards don't work with your cpu, search for a z170 motherboard

>> No.58514979

I want to get a 144hz monitor but I currently already have a 60hz. If dual use them will it cause any problems? I plan on playing exclusively for 144hz

>> No.58515127

>>58514979
It's fine

>> No.58515137

>>58514912
Alright cheers, I found this motherboard, looks pretty good.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-z170a-xpower-gaming-titanium-edition-intel-z170-socket-1151-ddr4-atx-motherboard-mb-310-ms.html

>> No.58515276

>everything but the case came today via FedEx
>check the case online, shipping with usps
>usps doesn't do mail today

Fuck black people

>> No.58515284
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What else should I get?

>> No.58515295
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Hey /g/,
So I've never asked in here before, but I'm looking for thoughts. I just transferred my build into a Raijintek styx case (really good looking btw, pic related).

Heres the part list (SSD didn't cost that much though because i have an older model, and one of the hdds is a seagate 1tb but they cost about the same):
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vHHcyf

Temps are fine for the most part, low-mid 30s. Helps that the xeon is only an 80w part, but when I work this little thing it'll get really hot like high 80s - low 90s. It's not throttling though so maybe the cooler can handle it? It wasn't an issue in my old case (NZXT Source 210) but I think the airflow must just be that much worse in this new case which sucks, it used to only get up to high 70s-low 80s.

I've been looking at the cryorig C7 to cool it, would that be a good choice? It seems like it'll fit in with the tiny aesthetic without completely taking over the case.

Thanks for any input.

>> No.58515324

>>58515295
> $85 case

>> No.58515382

>>58515324
glad thats all one sees out of this post. wow /g/.

>> No.58515447

>>58514912
>>58515137
Actually researching a bit further I found this one. Looks a lot better.
>https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-z170a-gaming-m7-intel-z170-socket-1151-ddr4-atx-motherboard-mb-304-ms.html

>> No.58515481

General question.
I was given a computer case that has more fans than my current build.

There are 2 CPU fan headers and 3 case fan headers on my mobo.

There are 7 fans in the case. Would it be safe to run a splitter for the non CPU fans?

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Guys really need help here, I have a Z170 that I'm preparing to update with the Kaby Lake Bios Update. My only concern is if I do the update, and let's say the power goes out or if the CMOS battery gets removed, will the BIOS Update revert or will it stay there unless overwritten? Thanks in advance desu.

>> No.58515795

>>58509785
The entire reason I came here today is to see if I could surpass the hardware power of the PS4 with a build that is either cheaper or the same price as the PS4 ($400).

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KLtZqk

Could I have gone cheaper?

>> No.58515831

To upgrade my RAM, can I mix different models?
I guess it have to be the same DDR version, but is it a problem if the two memory doens't have the same bus frequency? I heard the mobo will adapt on the slower.

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>>58515295
yeah the stock cooler is weak.
If i were you i'd just flip the rear fan first, to see if this helps.
chek pic related

>> No.58515855

>>58515831
It is strongly recommended that you do not mix models.

>> No.58515866

>>58515836
hmm ok yeah thats an idea, that back fan probably moves more air in than the bottom fan. Will try.

>> No.58515904

>>58509785
I want to build a new PC but I don't really enjoy games except for CS anymore. Fuck.

>> No.58515930

>>58509942
he wears socks with fuckin sandals ffs! i do however respect hes reviews.

>> No.58515991

>>58509942
what anime is this from? moar?

>> No.58516013

>>58515991
>I can't reverse image search

>> No.58516061

Is upgrading E5430 which i cant oc to g4400 or x4 845 worth it?

>> No.58516297

used £40 intel g3258 oc to 4.4ghz or the new intel g4560 for £65?

>> No.58516516

>>58515481
Yes

>>58515555
Don't let that happen. You're fucked unless there's some un bricking method like dual BIOS. Why do you want to update the BIOS anyway? Probably no advantage for you if you've got Skylake

>>58516061
No but look into the G4560

>>58516297
G4560. Four threads, modern platform

>> No.58516521

>>58510251
How can I do it?

>> No.58516683

>>58509785
Yo bois, will ~750-800$ be enough for a "decent" PC setup?
Mostly used for meme gaming (Overwatch, CSGO)
Like, PC, monitor, keyboard+mouse all included in that price?

First build so I'll be shit at cable management and all that fancy shit.

>> No.58516803

>>58516683
Depends on how you define decent. With $800 you will have to cut some edges somewhere at some point.
Do you need ALL peripherals, inlcuding speaker+mic or headset? Because if so that's a very tight budget.

>> No.58516833

1060 3GB or 470 ? Both cost here about the same.

>> No.58516867

>>58516521
Search "Skylake non-K OC BIOS" for your specific model of motherboard. Then you can overclock as normal, except using the base clock instead of the multiplier. You may have to reduce your RAM multiplier though, because it uses the same base clock.

You lose low power states and core temperature (but package temperature is still fine)

>> No.58516874

just built a new pc, turn it on and the screen is just blank. all of the fans and lights are working. i've tried everything. do i return the parts?

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Any idea when VEGA cards are coming out? I'm new to all this so I don't know how the release schedule works.

Is it one month from now or 2 months? If it's more than that I'll just buy a card now

>> No.58517074

>>58509785

I enhanced that for you OP. Looks like he's got his lightbulb in the wrong power supply socket. 20pin atx fits nicely in parallel port tho.


For real tho, who the fuck shoots these stock photos?

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>>58517074
damn i can't internet today

>> No.58517110

>>58516683
Assuming that's all you need, it's totally possible.

>> No.58517193

>>58512434
The Define C/R5 would be a good choice.
>>58512606
If you don't plan on OCing, just get whatever. Just realize that you won't be doing anything with just a fan.
>>58512632
Keeps your desk scratch-free and it's necessary on glass.

>> No.58517260

>>58516933
May

>> No.58517445
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left or right?

70+ fps gaming @ 1440p

one is more powerful, would not need an overclock

the other is weaker, but can be o/c'd

i'm one of those people who wait for reviews and evidence, so no kaby lake yet.

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>>58517096
>Not putting a bulb inside your PSU to test AC lines

>> No.58517468

>>58517445
left for sure. 1080 is obviously better than the 1070, and the 6700 will do just as good as an OC'd 6600k, better in some games due to more threads.

>> No.58517495

>>58517445
Right, that's not even a question.

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Got some $$$ from a grant, need a new PC to replace my 2008 build.

Recommendations?

>> No.58517528

>>58509785

wtf is that bish doin

I should start taking stock photography

>> No.58517565

>>58517503

you could put all of that into a smaller case, unless you plan on going SLI blunderbuss

>> No.58517582

>>58517503

Get the 6700k, you won't notice a difference and you're not using 4k so you don't need the decoder

You don't need an m.2 drive, you won't notice any difference from an ssd

why are you getting a 1080 but then getting two 25" 1440p 65hz monitors?

wtf?

get a single 1440p 144hz ya dingus

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>>58517582
>>58517565

Posted wrong one. Fixed.

>> No.58517652

>>58517638
I have a 500 GB Evo from Samsung. No need for HDD.

>> No.58517907
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can I build a complete 1440 medium machine for the price of a 1070?

overridden parts marked not purchased are existing from my i3-2100/4gb/6850 I pulled out of the closet.

overridden parts marked purchased are things I've recently picked up

others are things I need.


Any sugestions welcome. I know it's a little lopsided. was originally going to be a 470/4 but I found the 390x and monitor in a facebook group and picked them up instead.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MgPZqk

>> No.58517953

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/f67xVY

I'm unsure about what storage options I should go with. I know m.2 drives are overkill but since my mobo has a slot why not. The samsung 950 and 960 are all sold out/back order/overpriced everywhere here in Canada, should I just settle for an intel 600p?

Also is it fine to use a nas drive in a desktop? I want a lot of storage space and reliability. Thanks.

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>>58517953
Samsung 950/960/951 are the only NVME drives worth buying right now
An Intel 600p is almost indistinguishable from a normal SATA SSD except for sequential reads
SATA SSDs are good enough imo, don't waste your m2 slot by getting 5% better than SATA, get a Samsung M2 and get 400% better than SATA if you're getting m2 at all

>> No.58517996

Is it possible to actually have a decent discussion about building PCs for reasons other than generic gaming?

I want to mess around with designing cases for and building interesting PCs. At the moment the idea is to grab a bunch of old scrap parts and try and make a portable and disposable PC. The other idea is to use a SBC and make a very small portable PC that's battery powered, possibly with a LED light display on the side from the GPIO pins.

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>>58517994
And here's a 960 pro

>> No.58518023

>>58517996
Lemme guess, for emulation gaymen PC?

>> No.58518027

>>58517996

I want to make a sleeper pc

just gotta find the right case

I want something super deceptive, not hipster ibm trash, something my wife wouldn't even think twice about

>> No.58518074

>>58518027
Beige casefags are literally worse than edgy gaymen casefags
No, we're not going to search out a case that matches your aesthetic preference, covered with r̶e̶d̶beige paint and having exactly the number of LEDs you want
Do it yourself

>> No.58518087

>>58517996
I'm in the process of building a home cloud server, but I don't know if I should get a Xeon E3-1260L v5 with a C232 motherboard or take a gamble on the SoC Xeon Ds.

>> No.58518095

>>58518074

nigger wtf, that is exactly what I don't want

and I never even asked anyone to find me anything, I was trying to have a discussion like the guy asked

calm your autistic ass down

>> No.58518159

Any ideas on an office / research machine.

I need to push two 1440p monitors. Would a 470 suffice? Paired with an i5 7500

>> No.58518195

>>58518027
fagg/o/t here

what is the point of a sleeper pc? Are you going to pull up at the dns server, trick a guy with the v8gts under the panel into a bench race for pinks and blow him away with your 486 when you hit the turbo button?

>> No.58518287

>>58518023
To help learn low level languages

>> No.58518306

>>58518287
So why an SBC and not a laptop? Laptop would be more versatile, convenient and powerful

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is this the video game console assembly thread?

>> No.58518312

>>58518195
>pull up at the LAN party
>"heh, they won't ever expect that I have the kind of system that I do in this piece of shit case"
>Pulls out an old dell tower that's too old for even your grandparents
>"oh hey you put top of the line parts in an old as shit case, good for you I guess"
Dumb gimmick.

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After co planning about Windows 10 being a tablet OS, I've given in and want a tablet
But I want a tablet with ports, basically I just want an unfoldable laptop, any suggestions? A couple USB ports and a video out is all I'm asking for
>pic semi-related, a tablet with ports, but I'm no lenovo bitch specifically, I just want something durable with good battery

>> No.58518442

>>58518312
oh okay. I think new parts in a full tower running every old os possible in a vm would be cooler.
and more fun to play with gamefags

>> No.58518467

>>58511501
I bought a refurbished 2gb Hitachi for $40 from eBay

>> No.58518473

>>58518442
So you're literally putting together a high end PC in a shit case to not utilize it and just to show off?

>> No.58518487

>>58518159
>I need to push two 1440p monitors
Any modern CPU can do this if you don't do any graphics intense shit on it, no need for a dedicated GPU.
>research machine
Idk what you plan to do with it, but if it's CPU intentsive stuff then definitely wait for Zen.

>> No.58518502

>>58518306
1. I can't build a laptop
2. No GPIO pins, retard

>> No.58518542

>>58518502
But there's a thousand and one microcontroller emulators online, why don't you put your design down, virtually and safely test to see if it works, and then get a SBC of your choice, you dont want to fuck up your controller just testing it out do you? If you're really just trying to learn it you don't necessarily need a physical demonstration in front of you

>> No.58518549

>>58518473
I would use modest components, show it off to my nerd friends and play old games

you don't need a 1080 to play skifree.

>> No.58518582

>>58518549
But what you're posting off of also has enough power to play old games
I don't get, then why build a brand new low end PC at all if really all you want from it is the case

>> No.58518583
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>>58517907
anybody?

should I spring for a ssd? what is the min size you would go? I'm thinking 240

>> No.58518613

>>58518542
Designing a program is not like going to Codecademy and solving some puzzles and working with physical hardware is not like writing some code with set addresses and executing it in that controlled environment.

They both lack the practical application of having to deal with physical and real hardware and real electronics.

>> No.58518626

>>58518309
I have yet to see one completed build from any of these threads.

It's the "this is what I'd build if I had a job general". or /TIWIBIIHAJG/ for short

>never change /g/

>> No.58518663

>>58518613
That's why the emulator emulates, you can see that it's trying to put out a retarded voltage before you fry your $10 computer
You haven't even looked up microcontroller emulators have you?

>> No.58518680
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>>58518626
I bought this 2 days after I lost my job

>> No.58518697
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>>58518626
>>58518680
Fite me

>> No.58518711

>>58518626
I already have a great computer. I just made a build in this thread to prove a point.

>> No.58518758

Used i5 4690 + mobo + 8gb ram for 180€, should I get them? I really need to upgrade my cpu

>> No.58518774

>>58518758
Yes

>> No.58518803

this thread sucks

>> No.58518848

>>58518803
>>58518803
No u

>> No.58518860

>>58518803
so does ur mom fagget

>> No.58518894

>>58518680
Not bad, now ive seen one. You can do your cables better than that though anon. Get some zip ties or straps, seperate and secure, tuck and loop excess behind the side panel. it looks messy the way it is

>> No.58518922
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>>58518894
>to intelligent for cable management

>> No.58518946

Is it a good idea to run a case fan and a CPU fan on the same header? Noise/other shit considered?

The fan on my NH-U14S is less than an inch away from the back fan, and since both fans are the same spec, I want to know if it's a good idea to sync them.

>> No.58518966

>>58518467
>refurbished
>from eBay

That sounds like an even worse idea than a seagate

>> No.58518970
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>>58518803
That it does, bullshit pipe dreams and no real building. Just parts lists...and bickering.

>>58518848
>>58518860
nailed it.

>itt

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>>58518922
>to intelligent
>to

obviously.

>> No.58518996

>>58518946
The CPU fan has a seperate control from the other system fans, you'll need the accurate speed sensing of one CPU fan in your CPU header
You can plug as many fans as you want into the system headers, they're not controlled as critically

>> No.58519036

>>58518946
if they're matching pwm fans on a 4 pin splitter I don't see why not. or just duct the cooler fan to the case and put the case fan somewhere else.

>> No.58519067
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What's /g/'s opinion on the wall-mounted setups, like pic related?

>> No.58519085

>>58519067
Attracts dust while repelling women

>> No.58519097

>>58519067
Just waiting for a well-aimed sneeze.

>> No.58519103

>>58519085
I'm already married, so just the former would bother me.

>> No.58519122

>>58519097
Yeah, it seems to just look cool, but not be very practical.

>> No.58519124

>>58519103
Your wife will leave you and take the PC with her

>> No.58519262

>>58519103
>Jamal will accidentally spurt on your rig while your wife is revenge fucking him on your desk to get back at you for spending all your time on that "damn computer".

>She'll wipe it up as best she can but some got behind the backplate on the gpu.

>You start your rig and something pops, smoke comes out.

>You pull the gpu to find some fossilized substance on the pcb
>"maybe it is melted plastic" you think to yourself.
>later that night you're going down on her and it's sticky, slick and salty for some reason.

>instantly it hits you like Kaiser Soze, the text messages, the things ever so out of place, the time you thought you heard someone in the background when you called.

>you embrace it because you're the kind of guy that builds a wall mounted open air pc.

>Jamal comes over for the holidays now.

>> No.58519444

What is the best z270 board? I really wanted to go with ASUS because that's the UEFI I'm used to, but they seem far more expensive than the z170 lineup. Gigabyte's Z270XP SLI seems pretty good.

>> No.58519653

>>58519444
>Gigabyte's Z270XP SLI
Don't, the Z170 SLI's VRM was crippled and so is probably the Z270's.
If you want to fall for the Kelvin Lake meme you have to live with the stupid prices m8.

>> No.58519670

>>58519262
Actually, I've had like 8 affairs, so if anyone has been cucked, it's the wife.

>> No.58519698

>>58519653
What about Gigabyte's non-sli boards?

>> No.58519852

>>58519670
now THIS is the type of guy I expect to have an open computer case

>> No.58519934

What max temperature do you think I can safely push on my i5-7600k?

>> No.58519954

>>58519934
100°C, 104°C with the thermal shutdown disabled
And that's a limit at ANY point on the die

>> No.58519957

>>58519934
As long as you're below 80C you're golden. Below 70C is even better and obviously the lower the better.

>> No.58520039

>>58519957
Running stress tests you think I should worry about peaking 90?
When will the computer ever reach that in normal use anyway

>> No.58520169

>>58519698
Good but also more expensive than Z170.

>> No.58520260

Finished my first build, getting the winblows 10 boot dive ready.

It took me roughly 3.5 hours to build. And my only issue what I missed the ATX 12v connection to the PSU. Is that fairly standard / good time?

>> No.58520313

>>58520039
Its a reassurance so you know that if your CPU ever gets taxed too hard, you'll know that it will run stably.

>> No.58520451

How much of a double baka am I if I forgot speakers for my build?

>> No.58520489

>>58520451
>>58520479

>> No.58520533

>>58520451
You're tripple baka senpai desu. If you don't have headphones you're quadra baka.

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>>58518697
>mfw this is the almost exact build i'm looking at
How's that working out for you?

>> No.58520806

I have a question for anyone who lives dangerously with their checking account. I deposited a check recently and while my available balance went up by $300 from it, the check itself hasn't cleared and is worth much more. Am I safe spending that $300 on some of the on sale parts I plan to get right now at newegg to get them shipping a little sooner? I don't usually need to spend something so soon after depositing it, and today was a holiday so banks always close for that crap and the check didn't progress.

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>>58520549
It's great, it's a nice video game console at 1440p ranging from 60-70 in witcher 3 max settings to 144fps in doom and such, averaging around 90fps maxed in most new games and 144hz is easy to get with a setting or two turned down. The CPU handles everything fine, especially overclocked to 4.4GHz but I see it at 90% usage in some games (that use extra threads) and that bugs me, if I had to build it again I *mightve* gotten a 6700k, but the 6600K hasn't had any problems yet
For "productivity" programs it's faster than my laptop but I never had a problem with DAWs before anyways.
Boots fast, loads things fast, runs things fast
I mean I'm coming from an old laptop to this, I don't know how to give you a fair review, it fucking kicks ass

>> No.58520867

>>58520806
as long as the available balance is there it's fine

>> No.58520973

>>58520806
If you barely have $300, you probably shouldn't be buying shit

>> No.58521025

>>58520973
I have $6200, but only 300 of the check I deposited was added to my available balance. I have to wait on the check to clear to have the full amount available.

>> No.58521121

>fell for SSD meme
>couldn't be happier

thanks /g/

>> No.58521137

I was gonna get the Asus z170-A mobo since I saw good reviews and its price point a few months ago. Now a lot of those reviews have changed to the boards dying after a few months and having issues with too many USB devices plugged in. Any suggestions for something else in the 150-200 range? Getting a 6600k

>> No.58521167

I'm building my momma a 4K streambox because I love her. How would I go about this? I'm thinking ITX or SFX if possible, I assume Kaby lake is needed for 4K Netflix? No GPU is fine? What about ram?

>> No.58521176

Recommended budget motherboard for an Intel G4560 Pentium processor?

Research suggests ASUS H110M-A or MSI B150M Mortar.

Open to suggestions.

No major requirements. No graphics card at all. I've got 8GB DDR4 RAM.

>> No.58521217

>>58521167
And do aftermarket 4K blu Ray drives even exist?

>> No.58521372

>>58510037
Get faster memory, I don't get people that buy skylake and go for ddr3 speeds

>> No.58521574

>>58521176
Get a H110 mobo, but you may require a BIOS update to use a Kaby Lake CPU.

>> No.58521751

>>58520829
Nice one, cheers

>> No.58521820

Where can I find a good, cheap LGA 1336 board for overclocking? Using an i7 960

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Rate please
What would you change?
Am I ready for video games?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FZqCM8

>> No.58521917

m.2 or sata for boot/main drive?

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>>58521176
Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H, cheap b250 mobo, floats around the $70 range but looks to be a quality product. could you go older and cheaper, yes, but I like shiny new things with other shiny new things because, well, I'm a faggot.

>> No.58522015
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Rate.
$850
Monitor I already owned.

>> No.58522023

>>58521914
Switch the wireless adapter from a b/g/n to an a/b/g/n

First SSD to a 128 GB.

>> No.58522029

almost finished

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KwDP7h

>> No.58522110

>>58521914
m.2 is a meme that you don't need and get a better wireless adapter. as for the case, that case is for penny pinchers, for your budget, get something better.

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>>58522023
Wouldn't I need to get an "a" router too?

>> No.58522144

I just bought a second monitor, and it supports vga and displayport, but it comes with only that vga cable. The Rx 480 does not support vga does it? Will I want to get an vga to displayport adapter, or just a displayport cable for plugging both displays into my gpu?

>> No.58522226

>>58522110
Like what case?
I feel like I'm trying to budget for the performance I'm getting but its just a lot of things

>> No.58522483

Hey /g/, I'm considering putting together a budget PC primarily for school projects (CS major) and some relatively light/occasional gaming (Grand strategy/4X and misc. lightweight indie games). I've not been following PC components for quite a while now because I've been too broke to afford a proper computer, but I finally have money coming my way that I can use to invest in a desktop. Did some googling, made use of Logical Increments, etc. and this is what I came up with:

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/lainon/saved/WzQGXL

Can't really afford any upgrades to this, as my goal for the components themselves is to remain under $500. If there are any comparable products that would increase performance or shave off a few bucks, let me know.

Also, it has to be a compact case because my apartment bedroom/desk area is quite small.

Additionally I'm recycling an SSD that I already have.

>> No.58522497

>>58522023
>>58522110
I'm gonna be honest this is the real list
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WkRrwV

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>>58522133
>liquid cooled router

>> No.58522682

>>58521820
1366* In bed cuddling bf typo :3

>> No.58522951

Welp, my pc is up and running (not quite complete because the video card arrives tomorrow) and it's running smooth and quite.

My only problem is that I only bought a 240gb Sandisk SSD for storage. I'm going to buy a 1TB HDD (don't really need more room than that, I still had plenty of breathing room on my 500GB "Gaming" laptop's hdd after 4 years of use before it breathed its last) but last week someone told me to buy a WD Black instead of Blue.

What that actual advantage there, since it's purely for storage and will be running through the SSD anyways?

>> No.58522971

>>58522680
I had a Corsair H80i-cooled overclocked 3770K as a pfsense router just for the lulz. With the earlier versions of Snort, it monstered two fully-saturated 1-Gbps connections with very minimal packer loss with most packet sizes.

>> No.58523217

>>58522951
this might be relevant.

http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/1741-wd-blue-vs-black-comparison-best-drive-for-gaming

>> No.58523227
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Will this kaby-lake CPU be able to run on my MSI B150 Mortar motherboard? The notes mention a BIOS update but idk how I can install updates if I can't use the CPU until updates are installed. Also all of my parts come with drivers on a CD but i dont have a cd drive will that be a problem?

>> No.58523281

>>58523217
Judging by the article and the particular Blue HDD I'm looking at right now on sale, as well as my particular needs, I see no reason why I'd need to spend the extra cash on a Black drive save for the extended warranty.

Thanks for the resource, kind anon.

>> No.58523322

>>58523227
you will need a Skylake CPU to install the bios update.

once its updated you can download all the latest patches for everything else online.

>> No.58523425

>>58510037
Over paying for ssd and you bought thermal paste but no cpu cooler. The 6500 has a stock cooler that is fantastic and you cant over clock so no heat issues and comes with preinstalled thermal paste. Otherwise all good nice set up. I have that monitor and its comfy as fuck. Bezel is nonexistant.

>> No.58523448

>>58522133
Yes. A dual-band router. Aka, 5 gHz.

>> No.58523468

>>58522497
Wasted about $800.

>> No.58523620
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Is there any reason to have an 8gb GPU if you only game in 1080p?

>> No.58523643

>>58522497
why even spend money on an m.2 in a microATX build?

>> No.58523656

>>58515991
Here you lazy fuck: http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=53172632

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>>58523643
I thought it would be fast and it was, why not though?
>>58523468
I got the monitor for $500, and had the SATA SSD for a while before, where were the worst choices?

>> No.58523725

>>58523697
>I thought it would be fast and it was, why not though?
it is, but it's not worth paying the extra price in relation to a regular SSD when you're not concerned with space

>> No.58523735

>>58523697
And the ram was $67 I don't know what the hell happened to the prices in 3 months

>> No.58523747

who else
>waiting for ryzen
?

>> No.58523813

Thinking of keeping a triple monitor vesa in mind in case I get a third monitor, which are the best values for it? I'm looking on amazon and most of them have complaints about the monitors sagging after a while.

>> No.58523853

>>58523813
Also it has to be one with legs, a clamp one would break my glass top desk I bet

>> No.58523909

>>58523322
I guess that means no kaby-lake then, but will all the drivers for my GPU and Motherboard just install the first time I connect to the internet?

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>>58517074

Hey anon, can you help me with soldering this?

>> No.58523944

are the define r5 additional hard drive cages compatible with the define s?

>> No.58523986

>>58523620

What card do you have now?

>> No.58524258
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Hey guys.

I am located in Poland hence the non-English in pic related. I hope the model names and numbers are clear enough.

I can hold off on the GTX 1080 for now as I have a GTX 970 and I can use that until I get the funds for a 1080.

Also, I have a 120 GB Samsung 840 EVO I got as a birthday present hence the OWS Accelsior PCI-E SSD adapter.

r8 pls.

>> No.58524274

>>58523909
there are tons of guides on youtube that will show you how to update each part. usually the stuff on the Disc isnt the latest update.

>> No.58524357

>>58522144
display port cable, better fidelity and supports higher resolution

>> No.58524397

>>58523281
you could use anything as a storage drive, my poorfag ass has a 5400rpm laptop drive in my tower. Slow but all my games and frequently used programs are on the ssd. I don't give a shit.

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>>58523986

>> No.58524450

>>58524258
scrap the pci adapter and just use sata. 16gb ram is plenty, kaby lake locked has a good enough stock cooler, 750w is overkill unless you are going to sli which is stupid.

either get a k cpu or pop that in a b250 mobo.

>reference cooler

this whole build is wasteful.

>> No.58524452

>>58524258
If you're gonna buy a Z170 motherboard, might as well buy a K series processor

>> No.58524455

>>58524258

if you are gonna get a z170 why not just wait till the 1080ti comes out then

>> No.58524479
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Thoughts on 7350k vs 6600k? I know it's a big difference but with the motherboards it's about $100 or so here on Canada.

>> No.58524491

>>58524455

The 1080Ti will be a) over priced for this country (thanks 23% VAT!) and b) won't arrive until much later (probably)

>> No.58524508

>>58524491

its overpriced everywhere at least $1500-1200 aud in Australia when it comes out just for reference card

>> No.58524529

>>58524450

I want 32 GB so that I can run newer games via Wine since it's already able to run shit like DOOM 2016 and I would like to run Vulkan-compatible games without lag in decent settings.

>> No.58524542

>>58524450

I might knock the power supply down to 500W while I run the 970 GTX I still have.

>> No.58524566

>>58524421

Hmmm I am not sure about this. Will your motherboard support a newer Nvidia? I can't seem to find that socket in my local store but then again we ain't all that advanced around here anyways...

>> No.58524601

>>58524566

I'm building an entirely new PC. Just wondering if a 1070 is worth it or not..

>> No.58524633

>>58524508

Well, the 1080 (non-Ti) costs about $899 (US) here so I think for us the Ti version will cost about $1100 (US)....

>> No.58524647

>>58524601

For 1080p gaming a 1070 should be more than enough....

>> No.58524674

Main purpose: anime, numerical work, productivity, light gaming

Games: League, PS2 emulation

Software: numerical software like R, Matlab, etc

Other: I'd like to output to 2x 1440p monitors

Budget: $700, not including monitors or other peripherals.

I feel like I should go for a cpu heavy machine, because nothing I plan on doing is particularly graphics intensive. Anyway, help.

>> No.58524729

>>58524674

PS2 emulation and numerical work...

Might want to go with an NVIDIA card that has CUDA: https://www.mathworks.com/discovery/matlab-gpu.html

and I am sure that the PS2 emulation will be smoother on an i7 but I am not sure if that is a CPU intensive thing or not as I am not an expert on emulation so take my words with a salt shaker...

>> No.58524737
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RX 480

or

GTX 1060

>> No.58524739

>>58524737

Windows or Linux?

>> No.58524758

>>58524739

Windows 7

Mainly 1920x1080

>> No.58524784

>>58524758

This help any?

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-RX-480-vs-GeForce-GTX-1060

>> No.58524786
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After many months of browsing /g/, I've developed this as the perfect budget gaming build.

>> No.58524791

Whats the difference between having my igpu set as my primary vga vs my discrete gpu? I am waiting for a cable to come in so I can hook up both monitors to my gpu. In the mean time, however, I went into the bios and switched the primary vga, and enabled multi-monitor so i could plug one into the mobo and the other into the gpu.

>> No.58524818

>>58524786

maybe budget is the wrong word, but it can deal with a solid overclock, sli in the future, and it has plenty of room for more ram or more hard drives. not to mention it has a fan controller and several multi colored fans on order

>> No.58524876

Have you guys ever forked over $100 for a case? Just seems useless.

>> No.58524885

>>58524876
Enthoo has some pretty nice cases.

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build it

>> No.58525268

>>58517260
Why so long...

>> No.58525302

>>58510037
That gpu was just selling on Amazon for 175ish btw

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Next paycheck I'm getting the motherboard and processor :)

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>>58524876
I would honestly fork over three times that if my finances and sanity allowed that.

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>>58525929

>> No.58525974

Whats a good z270 board for like 130-140 bucks

>> No.58525983
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Thank god for Japanese !NCASE M1s

>> No.58526046

i7 4790k delidded processor and replaced the TIM
>only 4 physical cores
Gigabyte 1070 Windforce
16gb DDR3 2133
128GB Corsair Neutron SSD
500gb m.2 Samsung 750 evo
2x 2TB WD blue in raid
EVGA 850 80+ Gold
NZXT kraken x61 240mm radiator w/ push pull setup

Win 10 and mint installed

Just a gaming PC

What next /g/

>> No.58526126
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Criticize my build.

>> No.58526154

>>58526126
You don't need Z170 mane.

>> No.58526158

>>58526126

Power supply is a bit much. Surely you can go down to, say, 550-650W with no problem especially since you don't appear to be going for a multi-GPU set up.

Processor is a bit on the weak side. How much does an i5 K series processor cost in your area?

>> No.58526160

>>58526126
get a b150m or even a h110m instead

>> No.58526171

>>58526158
Got psu for crazy cheap so why not and the i5 6500 is around 190 usd

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>>58526126
>1200w PSU
>25$

>> No.58526175

>>58526126
>>58526158
Also, where the fuck are you getting that PSU from?

>> No.58526190

>>58526173
Some dude at a yard sale was giving his sons away for that cheap so when I saw it I didn't think twice lol

>> No.58526208

>>58526190

>some dude
>his son's

Did his son die or something?

>> No.58526215

>>58526190
His wife's son?

>> No.58526223

>>58526215
>>58526208
No clue, I asked if it was used he said no his son had bought it and it was just collecting dust in the box and he wanted it gone. Then I didnt ask anymore questions and bought it

>> No.58526270

>>58526223
Be careful when you hook that thing up. Ideally the guy didn't know what he had and it was never used. Worst case scenario you boot up and your components get fried.

>> No.58526286

>>58526270
Welp its been almost 3 weeks and nothing too crazy has happened yet, but now that i think of it when i shut off the main light in my room my monitor flickers but they could be something in electricity not the computer.

>> No.58526331

>>58526286
Well you're probably fine then. How many things are hooked up to the outlet the PC/monitor are on?

>> No.58526344

I only play mobas and rhythm games and spend most of my time on my PC just shitposting and watching chinese cartoons.
Would it be considered a waste of money if I get a 144hz 1440p IPS monitor? I have cash from my Christmas bonus just sitting in the bank.

>> No.58526364

>>58526344
buy meth instead

>> No.58526380

>>58526331
Its on a strip and the strip is basically full but its like a ps4 that is always off a desk lamp 90% of the time off but that could be the reason.
Thanks for reminding me about that

>> No.58526453

>>58526380
No problem. I would do some tests next time you feel like it. Maybe just unplug the PS4 and the lamp and flip the light. Even if you leave it as is I think it's unlikely that anything will be damaged.

>> No.58526520

>>58515795
buy a keyseller win 10 key and put the money saved into a 460 then the 730 and you would save money and have a significantly more powerful gpu.

>> No.58526575
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58526575

>>58518626
>yfw leds

>> No.58526581

Is the m2 slot a meme or is there a measurable difference between that and SATA3?

>> No.58526582

>>58525929
>>58525940
>>58525983
Can't see my guts

>> No.58526585

>>58510838
>>58518626
Guts go on /guts/.

>> No.58526638

>>58526581
If it runs on PCIe, then it will be blazing fast, literally. They get super hot. You do get storage that's almost as fast as RAM though.

>> No.58526674

>>58526638

Trying to decide if want an M2 slot or just use a SATA3 drive.

>> No.58526779

>>58526674
My XPS 13 has a PCIe M.2 and my desktop has a SATA 3 Samsung 850 EVO SSD. There a lot of different factors at work here but they feel equally fast. Just know that SATA SSDs will be cheaper and will still be really fast.

>> No.58526793

>>58526779
>There are* a lot of

>> No.58526872

So I'm about to buy the parts to a PC I'm gonna build. My car is in the shop for about a month, so I need the parts shipped. I might just on a train for things like the harddrives, but are things like the case, mobo, and GPU okay to have delivered? Do they get damaged or what?

>> No.58526897

>>58526872
Most computer parts are packed well enough to survive shipping.

>> No.58526922
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58526922

Rode around today to shop for my build. Every place I went only had previous models of what I need, worse is that they were a 50%+ mark up. Life can be cruel.

>gtx 1060 for $600

>> No.58526964

>>58526897

>most

So I'm guessing it's better idea to trek for HDD and SSD then?

>> No.58526977

>>58526964

Nah, SSDs come nicely packed to survive shipping. Besides, no moving parts on an SSD so you don't have to worry if some gorilla just up and tossed the thing into the truck.

>> No.58526990

>>58526964
You could chuck an SSD across the room and it'd still work. (Don't try this)

I received an HDD from Amazon and it worked perfectly.

Think about this, it costs companies a lot less to pack their shit right for shipping than to replace components broken in shipping.

>> No.58527010

>>58526977
>>58526990

okay thanks

>> No.58527043

So what are your usual overclocking routine?
Getting a i5-7600k later today. Gonna start at 1,30v with 4,8ghz and stress it for 4 hours and repeat until I get optimal results.
Any input?

>> No.58527044

>>58520260
Time doesn't really matter as long as it is solidly built, it's a hobby not a job (unless it is your job).

The time taken to build it compared to the time you will use it is minuscule anyways.

>> No.58527068

>>58522015
Not sure why you couldn't wait the month and a half for Ryzen. 8350 will suck massive dick for anything new, trust me I own one.

>> No.58527095

>>58527068
Some people have urgent gaming needs.

>> No.58527287

>>58527095
True I guess, not sure why you wouldn't go with the Pentium meme in that case.

I can't wait for Ryzen personally, I'm just hoping I can get AMD/Intel on the cheap and not feel gouged. Can't say the same about Nvidia and ATI atm though.

Any other anons looking to build fresh/upgrade around the release of Ryzen regardless of if you are buying AMD/Intel?

>> No.58527295

>>58509785
wait... that powersupply has a light bulb in it?!?!?!?

>> No.58527319

Why do some new boards on newegg say I have to overclock to get speeds like 3000 on ram?

Is this an error?

>> No.58527373

>>58527295

And why is that person servicing something that is a non-serviceable unit in the first place...

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>>58527373
A lot of women tell me I can't service them but I'll do it anyway.

>> No.58527420

>>58525809
That motherboard. No Kaby Lake processor. The bronze power supply.

Jesus. It's like people don't pay attention at all.

>> No.58527426

>>58526046
Kaby Lake processor, DDR4 RAM

>> No.58527442

>>58526344
Yes.

>> No.58527663
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58527663

I'm finally starting to get parts.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/JHmbVY

Howzit look so far?

The case may come off as GAYMUR, but I'm getting it mainly for the handles.

>> No.58527667

What's the best hard drive brand?

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58527692

>>58527667

HGST

>mfw can't find any in Australia

>> No.58527733

>>58527692
PCCG

>> No.58527740

>>58527733

too pricey desu

>> No.58527940

>>58527287
Just got my i7 6800 and probably won't change unless their Ryzen is a big difference.

>> No.58527952

>>58527663
Can't go wrong with Cooler Master though some of their cases might have fans you need to replace later.

>> No.58528012

>>58527663
Looks gud, maybe add case fans to fight off dem spydas crawling into your machine.

>> No.58528029
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58528029

Cheap, poorfag Bentley britbong from last week here. Got round to doing my build so thanks for the help, lads.

Question is, now what? What next small momentary fix of happiness should I move onto now?

>> No.58528067

>>58528029

Could use another 8 GB of RAM, imho.

>> No.58528117

>>58527952
>>58528012

yeah I'll be working out the case fans last

didn't include it in the final price as I'm uncertain of how many I'll need yet

never had a spider in my machine though

found a baby cockroach once

>> No.58528338

>>58528117
>found a baby cockroach once
Straya 101.

>> No.58528578
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58528578

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PK8f2R

i own a MasterCase Pro 5 ATX and i didn't realize just how awesome this case was, so i've been trying to fiddle around with different builds to see what I prefer.

1. minimal noise, but solid overclocking. so fancy fan controller with several fancy fans
2. minimal wires, so M.2 SSD, plus SSDs in basement of case
3. GTX 1070, because SLI is the cool thing nowadays for when the games get too demanding
4. for right now i'd like to stay away from liquid, just because it's noisier, but if it's necessary then i'll go that route.

pic is the aesthetic i'm looking for, but a different cooler

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.69 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 LED 66.3 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Z170 PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($149.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($109.99 @ Jet)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 120GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($78.75 @ Amazon)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 960GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($244.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card ($428.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase Pro 5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($125.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.37 @ Jet)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSD1 DVD/CD Writer ($40.10 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: NZXT Air Flow Series 83.6 CFM 140mm Fan ($11.99 @ Directron)
Case Fan: NZXT Air Flow Series 83.6 CFM 140mm Fan ($11.99 @ Directron)
Case Fan: NZXT Air Flow Series 83.6 CFM 140mm Fan ($11.99 @ Directron)
Case Fan: NZXT Air Flow Series 83.6 CFM 140mm Fan ($11.99 @ Directron)
Fan Controller: NZXT SENTRY 3 Fan Controller ($28.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: LG 34UM88C-P 34.0" 3440x1440 60Hz Monitor ($663.99 @ Adorama)

Total: $2266.69

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>>58528578
Thinking of getting the 5t version. Looks sexy as fuck.
The price though.

>> No.58528678
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58528678

>>58526190
Is this any good? I want a PC that's going to last a couple of years or more and just want a good all round PC but will play a decent amount of games too.

I have no idea what mobo to pick. Buying everything from pccasegear though. This is in AUD.

What I mainly wanted to know is what can I do to cut costs down? Is there anything obvious I'm wasting money on. Ideally I'd be spending around $1100-1200 but yeah.

Any ideas?

>> No.58528784

Are AMD GPUs compatible with Intel CPUs? Would it cause me problems?

>> No.58528818

>>58528784
Yes they're compatible, and no it won't cause you any problems.

>> No.58528879
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58528879

>>58528678

this sort of build might be more in line with what you're looking for.

a smaller case, motherboard that allows for pretty much everything except for overclocking and SLI, and the saved money went to a better GPU and a slightly better processor.

>> No.58528932

>>58528879
That actually seems a whole lot better. I was having trouble just getting it under 1400 so I didn't think I'd ever be able to get a 1070.

Are m.2 drives generally faster than sata ssds? That one is a lot smaller but I probably won't use all of it and can save for a sata one I suppose.

I'll probably try and do something like that then. Thanks

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58528945

is this build any good? Anything that could be replaced to make it cheaper, faster, etc?

>> No.58528961

>>58528879
>>58528932
Also I was wondering if there was any reason not to get the i5 7500 over the 6500 when they are basically the same price

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58528987

>>58528932

m.2 is the same speed as SATA. it's more of a personal preference with fewer wires. and here's another one with a 1060 but you can still game at 1080p like a champ. and there is still room to upgrade, a new GPU or another 16gb stick of RAM

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58529142

>>58528945

you don't need a full tower unless you're doing 4 way SLI or some other sort of monstrosity.

here's a similar build to yours, still using quality components, but much more cost effective.

you're pretty much using the best enthusiast parts out right now, but the intel memory is too expensive, and you can save $40 on the power supply, and the full tower case can be downsized for something more efficient, and the noctua CPU coolers are, IMHO ugly.

>> No.58529157

>>5852914
>noctua CPU coolers are, IMHO ugly
But Linus recommends them.

>> No.58529184

>>58529142
thanks man, this looks good. I've heard people say that the noctua coolers are really good and reduce your temps by a lot though. Will there be a temp difference with the cooler you suggested, or is it negligible?

>> No.58529293

>>58529184

noctua coolers are great. they're super quiet and they keep temps down, my change was more just a personal aesthetic choice.

>> No.58529308

>>58529293
i mean i really don't care if it looks bad if I get good performance. the only person looking at it will be me anyway

>> No.58529334

>>58529308

if you plan on overclocking that 7700k, then the noctua would be your best bet for good temperatures.

>> No.58529339

When switching from amd to intel, do I need to format both my drives, or can I just format my ssd and leave my hdd alone?

>> No.58529368

>>58529334
well yeah that's why I got a k, so I could OC it. so I'll probably get the noctua

>> No.58529592

>>58529308

Don't get the 212. Not that it's bad but there are plenty of great ones out there that aren't complete cunts to install.

>> No.58530110
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58530110

I want to turn my full sized rig into a mATX build for portability and upgrade from a HD7850 to the RX480, which case is the way to go that has handles on top of it? I've only found the Bitfenix Prodigy M but I've heard that there's better cases on the market now.

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58530216

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sCCGd6

>> No.58530804

>>58530216
It's shit, Ivan.

>> No.58530816

>>58530804
You can't just come and say it's shit, John. Ignored

>> No.58530825

>>58530216
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sCCGd6

looksgood/10

>> No.58530834

>>58530816
But it is and the flaws are so obvious. If you don't see them, go on, waste your money.

>> No.58530926

>>58530216
Get an SSD, even if it is just enough for the windows boot.
Get a DDR4-3000
Don't cheap out on your psu
Cut back on the video card if the changes break your budget.

>> No.58531044

>>58530926
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nR9bVY

>> No.58531068

>>58529339
Not a good time to upgrade. You have to reinstall Windows because your OS installation is tied to the mobo. The SSD can be formatted, but if you have a compatible version of Windows, you might be able to use the option that saves yours personal data.

HDD doesn't require a format

>> No.58531082

>>58530926
>The PC is Games-only, I don't really need an SSD even for a windows-boot desu
>DDR4-3000 won't give me any more fps in gaming (1-2 fps+ doesn't count as an "increase" in fps)
>I've read shit on this PSU and people say it's ok.. I understand your worries but it's Silver certificate + 5yrs of warranty, idk but it looks fine to me desu

>> No.58531104

>>58531044
Get a 240GB PNY SSD. 20 bucks more for twice the space and better perf. Use SSD for OS + installed games.

>> No.58531114

>>58531082
Not sure who you're quoting, but those are some retarded opinions

>> No.58531115

>>58531044
Golden certificate isn't necessary, it's an unwanted increase in price. I've seen dozens of PCs working fine for 8-10 years w/ Bronze (and even under-bronze) PSUs

>> No.58531129

>>58531082
I wouldn't recommend overclocking with anything less than a gold cert, but if the reviews say it is fine and you feel fine with it, go ahead.

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58531149

Guys I don't know where you're from, but it's kinda obvious I'm not from US. Shit I linked costs 960 euros in my cunt and I have a 1000 euros budget. How in the hell am I supposed to "cut" on my graphics card and get a golden PSU if the cheapest golden 550W (or even 500W) PSU costs more than 100 euros, while this one is only 65? Are burgers that retarded?

>> No.58531163

>>58531068
from what I have read, the anniversary update of w10 saves your personal data and you can activate it through troubleshooting. I just have to make an installation disk. I just couldn't really find somewhere that told me that I could just leave my HDD be while formatting the SSD for the change from amd to intel.

>> No.58531172

>>58531149
>Guys it's kinda obvious I'm not from US.
Not really, which build is yours again?

>> No.58531209

>>58531172
This one: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sCCGd6

>> No.58531276

>>58531149
Maybe I'm just spoiled being an american and getting cheap computer stuff. I just bought a corsair RMX850, a fully modular 850 gold psu, for $100.

also, change your website to one of the european websites, since it gives us the prices in euros and gives us the euro prices instead of american prices. like so https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/sCCGd6
though I don't know what part of Europe you are from and how that effects the prices.

>> No.58531286

Is it worth it to go from a HD7850 to a RX470 for 1080p gaymen or should I go for a 480?

>> No.58531287

>>58531209
All you need to do is add a 240GB (OCZ or PNY) and cheapest 3000MHz RAM. The RAM should be about 10euros more and the SSD should be 60-70euros. No reason to skimp.

For info about RAM, check the digital foundries (eurogamer) i5 7500 review.

>> No.58531310

>>58531286
470 and 480 are about 15% diff before OC (gap closes). 470 is better than a 970 for ref

>> No.58531325

I don't know where else to put this but I'm looking for a good gigabit router. Going to be transferring lots of files between a couple of computers and need a much better wifi signal. Currently have a WRT54G running dd-wrt so being able to run dd-wrt would be good too. What should I be looking for? My budget is $300.

>> No.58531343

>>58531310
Which would be the better value? I don't care about running everything maxed but I'd need it to last for at least 2-3 years before upgrading

>> No.58531380

>>58531343
470 is best 1080p price\perf gfx card

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58531384

Hate me nerds but it's a $580 6600k/gtx 1060 equivalent build.
BLCK NIGGA
may my old computer rest in peace
fuck burglars

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