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Post your component list, rate other anons', ask questions in general.

Always state the purpose of your PC, your budget, AND YOUR COUNTRY if outside the USA.
If you are asking for improvements, clarify whether you want to lower price or to improve specs or build quality.

>Assemble your parts list with price comparisons by vendor and compatibility filter.
https://pcpartpicker.com

>Have a budget, but don't know where to start? This will recommend you a parts list based on price.
http://www.logicalincrements.com/

>General build advice including chipset compatibility, power supply advice, Windows activation information.
http://pastebin.com/9Pbm4nHL

>Information about how to assemble a PC, how to select components, etc.
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

If you see any other build advice or part list threads, direct them here with >>>/g/pcbg
Remember: Try not to be rude to people who just want some assistance, but don't tolerate people who won't accept any help.

Previous thread: >>58274861

>> No.58291917
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Posting my nice video game console I assembled with help from this thread

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>>58291917
It runs runescape so fast

>> No.58292597
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Ok we need some replies asap
Zen or Kaby Lake for gaymen? For rendering/editing? Expected prices?
Will Vega blow away any nvidia cards at the same price point? Or will the 1080ti reign supreme and the battle of $400 GPUS begin?

>> No.58292742

Win 10 or 8.1 for gaming?

Not sure if I want to get Win 10 when there's a lot of mixed reviews here, what do you guys recommend?

>> No.58292754

>>58292742
10 for gaymen now or in the future, that's basically fact
Dual boot if the botnet scares you

>> No.58293190

I got a NVIDIA 750 (non TI), I would like to change it. Keep in mind everything is overpriced here, what's a good GPU for 1080p gaming?

>> No.58293450

Should i replace my i5 2500 for Intel Xeon W3690 ?

>> No.58293576

>>58291938
Does it give you an edge 1 ticking noobs in the wildy?

>> No.58293624
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>>58293190
RX 480 4GB
GTX 1060 6GB
>>58293576
Dude I can pick flax so fast is nuts

>> No.58293641

>>58293190
1050ti is also a cheap 1080p card if you're cool with lowering settings
470 is a great budget 1080p card
460 doesn't quite have the power to hold up high 1080p settings at 60fps

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>>58291490
FX 6300
R9 380
Gigabyte 990X
Working like a charm.

>> No.58293649

>>58292597

Dude AMD hasn't been in top anything for a long long time, possibly never. The chances of this actually being worth a shit is pretty low.

Even if it is on par, you can get the intel equivalent right now. AMD is always playing catch up. I doubt anything will ever change , even this.

>> No.58293725

>>58293649
I always thought they had the affordable multicore department on lock (Intels multicore options are relatively new and crazy overpriced), and going by *AMDs personal* benchmarks it looks like they'll still have the multicore area to themselves, seperated from Intel by price, not by performance
It's the single core performance people keep arguing over, I personally don't think it'll match the Intel core series (and the one single-threaded benchmark I've seen *with lower than promised zen clocks* agrees)
I have my Intel CPU and I know I won't need to upgrade for 10 years, but it's just nice to see where the market shifts happen
I do think the hype is just completely fucking uncalled for though, without any objective data yet

>> No.58294135

What are requirements for crossfire, when it comes to motherboard? Just the two PCI Express x16 slots?

Is a B150 motherboard a good choice for crossfire with two RX480 graphics cards ?

>> No.58294448

>>58294135
Can't crossfire on a B150. Need H170 or Z170 for mGPU. Look up differences in chipsets

>>58293190
If you don't have a 6 or 8-pin PCIe power connector, you're stuck with a 1050Ti

>>58292742
Win10, but it sucks for anything else

>> No.58294527

>>58294448
It's just slot specs, all he needs is two x8 slots or above, or even get away with one in a x4 slot

>> No.58294571
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>>58294527
Are you retarded or trolling?

>> No.58294632

on mobile at the moment so too lazy
>FX8350
>XFX RX 480 4gb
>8GB 1600
>970A-D3SP mobo

>> No.58294654

>>58294632
This isn't a specs thread. If you're planning to buy that shit new you are stupid. Used is fine

>> No.58295338
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58295338

Gigabyte GA-F2A58M-HD2
AMD A10-7850K
8GB 2400mhz
Radeon R9 390

>> No.58295637

>>58295338
>having this much space to store your air

good job now apply more fan's

>> No.58295668
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should I go mini-itx when ryzen drops

will they make a high end chipset m-itx motherboard with lots of usb ports and m.2 and shit like absolute MADMEN

what's the current king of mitx friendly GPUs?

>> No.58295688

what case fans should I buy. I only have the two that came with my case

>> No.58295697

>>58295338
I have the same card, is yours hot and loud as fuck?

>> No.58295707

>>58295697
Not really but I haven't gamed all day with it yet

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>>58294527
>all he needs is two x8 slots or above, or even get away with one in a x4 slot

>> No.58295898
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>>58295668
Regarding gfx card, the king is GTX1070 (a 1440p card), but any RX4X0 or GTX10X0 is fine for mini-ITX. None consume much more than 150W

Who knows what AMD's board partners will do, but the specs for the AM4 chipsets have already been released.

>>58295338
I could understand if you bought an AM4 socket APU as a hold over until Zen, but really you have a retarded build. The CPU portion is about equivalent to an FX4350, so you're going to bottleneck the fuck out of that 390.

TL;DR you are fucking retarded and got memed. Pic related

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I got a question?
I am currently using this pc (https://www.amazon.com/Gateway-DX4375G-UW20-Desktop-processor-Windows/dp/B00EUQTSZI) and I want to put a Rx 470 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137050&cm_re=470-_-14-137-050-_-Product) in it.
Will it fit in the case, and if it can will it have temperature problems because the case lacks any intake or exhaust fans?
I have a 550W psu so power won't be an issue.

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>>58295898

>No sign if galax will release their single slot 1070 outside of chinkland

fuck

>> No.58296040
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58296040

Keep current card for a bit or wait for vega and hope the 1070 or 1080 go down in price? I regret buying the 1060 3gb version.

>> No.58296070

>>58295991
You need to fucking read the post above yours. Why are all these retards coming in here suggesting wasting money on a gfx card that will be hamstrung?

Regarding your temperature question, yes, the lack of case fans is a big problem. It's likely that the card would throttle.

>> No.58296078

>>58296040
>16GB system memory
>3GB GPU memory

Are you into self-memeing this hard?

>> No.58296095

>>58296040
Why regret? It's fine for 1080p, like you've got.
There aren't even any great 4K cards out right now. You're really looking at the 1080Ti or possibly Vega.

Of course, you can get away with a lesser card, but if you're already forking over money for 4K, may as well spend the extra few hundred for a good card.

>> No.58296110

>>58295898
I would like to understand more about what he did wrong

>> No.58296112

>>58296078
It was originally a single 8gb stick of ram, a Gigabyte H110m-A mb, and a I5-6400 for a budget build around $600, then I started to upgrade.
>>58296078
>Are you into self-memeing this hard?
It just kind of happened lol.

>> No.58296128

>>58296095
Good point i'll wait it out, ya 1080p is basically flawless on this build.

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>>58296110
Study the attached graphic and the one in the previous post.

Basically you want a CPU that can properly feed the gfx card (i.e., does not bottleneck the gfx card). You really need to see whether you can upgrade your APU to a better four thread APU and then get a used r9 380, because that's about the most power the better APU will be able to handle

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What think?

>> No.58296271

>>58296262
not bad, I hope your EVGA 1080 isn't a house fire.

>> No.58296291

>>58296262
X99/100

>> No.58296309

>>58296271
Everything I checked says it'll run around 510W. 1080 and DDR4 use a lot less power.

>> No.58296313

>>58296112
Fair enough.

If it plays your games at >60fps (because lol it's another meme alert - 60hz) then just sit tight.

>> No.58296353

>>58293643
Z170 ASRock PRO4S
i5 6600k
r9 290

enjoying my 350fps in rocket league :D

>> No.58296393

>>58296262
expansion slots and drive bays /10

I like it. Another person who isn't falling for the tiny case meme

>> No.58296399

>>58296309
I think he's talking about how EVGA ACX 3.0 cards don't have VRM thermal pads / a direct connection to the heat sink fin array and some cards were overheating the VRM's. EVGA did a recall / offered to send out thermal pads to owners for free.

>> No.58296441

>>58296399
Never heard of that. I'll have to look into it.

>> No.58296523

>>58296262
Price and parts used?

>> No.58296564

>>58296523
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/nocoin/builds/#view=Mv6scf

>> No.58296600

>>58296262
Route the mobo power connector similarly to the SATA connection to the mobo. Also the PCIe card should be in one of the small slots

>>58296353
Again, not a specs thread.

>> No.58296666

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PVb9nn
fuck that shit up

>> No.58296673

>>58296600
Nothing that needs to be fixed right now. I'm gonna be lazy for a while.

>> No.58296676

>>58293641
the higher stock oc 460's with good coolers are good for max 1080p 50/60fps

sapphires 4gb nitro one for example, the performance over the regular 2gb ones is definitely worth the extra 20/30$ and 6 pin requirement

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>>58296564
>he's not fucking around

>> No.58296763

>>58296666
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PVb9nn
Nice quads, but
>Seashit
>Buying windows

>> No.58296922

>>58296564
AG's can build better PC's than MN's believe it or not.

>> No.58296975

>>58296763
ah, forgot to switch in a smaller one and sdd

yeah, buyin windows :/

>> No.58296979

>>58296922
Lie. You only need a chromebook to check google weather.

>> No.58296980

>>58296666
No SSD / 10
Probably overpaying for your needs

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>>58296564

>no m2 ssd
>paying full-price for windowsd

>> No.58297038

>>58296980
see >>>58296975
overpaying for what i need, nah son

>> No.58297084

Sata ssd, pcie ssd or m2 ssd?

>> No.58297212

>>58291490

you can literally build a G3900 PC for $150

why do the general public not know this?

why do moms have fucking i5 PC's that cost almost $1000?

why do they say things like "my computer is old and i need a new one"

why do prebuilt manufacturers tell people they need a new computer when their HDD dies because they didnt have a UPS rather than tell them they can get a $19 250 gig WD which is more than they'll ever need and a $50 APC UPS?

>> No.58297343

Anyone know where I might be able to buy a replacement m2 ssd standoff?

>> No.58297422

>>58297343
http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=AS_20160429150508&SearchText=m2+standoff

>> No.58297438

>>58297343
https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/wurth-electronics-inc/9774040243R/732-7090-1-ND/5320695

>> No.58297640

Alright so because Australia sucks for PC parts I have a very limited choice of HDDs

I just want a 1-2TB 3.5" for 80-110AUD.
Basically my choices are
-WD Blue, Red, Black
-Most Seagate models
-Toshiba DT01ACA

I would go for the black but it's apparently noisy as fuck which I can't have in my build. What is my least shit option?

>> No.58297664

>>58297640
Wd Blue.

>> No.58297689
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build virgin here

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/LdRPvV

how's my build? particularly interested in the following points:

- is the HDD decent quality? don't want to cheap out on it
- will it all fit in the case?
- need extra thermal compund or wires?
- need more fans?
- should I get a power supply closer to 500W?

>> No.58297702

>>58297689
another point of interest:

- how's the GPU? should I go with a different brand?

>> No.58297707

Sup
Where can I get a mechanical keyboard with ISO layout from a USA seller??

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>>58291490
>onee-chan

>> No.58297722

>>58292754
>Dual boot if the botnet scares you
>implying you were ever safe by running m$ on bare metal

>> No.58297728

>>58297707
>>>/mkg/

>> No.58297730

>>58297689
>I7-6700k
>$457
It's cheaper on Newegg.

>> No.58297744

>>58291490
>onee-chan

this some futa shit yo

>> No.58297761

>>58297730
By like 8 bucks, shipping may factor in.

>> No.58297806

>>58297730
don't care about the price that much since I'll be paying for this with scholarship bux

>> No.58297829

>>58297806
That just means you can buy more shit :). It's $350 if you buy directly from newegg and free shipping.

>> No.58297840

Odd question but

Can video be fed into a GTX 970 at all? Is there any function on the card that allows that at all? Video in through any of the ports on it.

>> No.58297842


▲▲

>> No.58297854

>>58297829
Free shipping to australia? Read his link in his first post. Those prices are all AUD SENPAI.

>> No.58297864

>>58297840
Hahaha what

>> No.58297872

>>58297829
yeah like >>58297854 said, australia is shit when it comes to pc parts

>> No.58297893

Can anyone recommend a good small PSU for an ITX build? 300w will be enough.

>> No.58297896

>>58297664
Would help if you could explain why.
Aren't the reds technically 'better' than the blues? If my budget allows me to spend more shouldn't I spend more?

>> No.58297915

>>58297689
Hey I'm also a first time builder in australia going for a very similar set up
What's your build's purpose? You may want to go for a 2TB HDD or get an external for storage

>> No.58298001

>>58297915
just all-round use i guess, i start uni in two months, BaAdvSci(Hons), so i'll probably be using some computational software like mathematica or matlab. also tv shows and movies. probably a lot of games too (hence the 1070). i've just used the same old laptop and pc all my life so i want a nice high end pc that i can use reliably and upgrade for 5-10 years. i already have a 1TB external HDD so I think I'll only need another 1TB for now, at least until you can buy 5TB SSDs for $100.

>> No.58298079
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58298079

>Running a Dell Opti MT 790
>Factory MOBO with i5 2400
>Threw an $80 EVGA GT 740 in it last summer
>Use the machine for shitposting and playing vidya
>Actually considering upgrading the PSU to some 500W or 650W and getting a Zotac GTX 1060

I'm poor and stupid, would the upgrades work? Or would they toast my mobo?

>> No.58298111

>>58298001
Yeah you seem to be all set then. Sorry I can't really comment on your current build
Good luck for your first year of Uni

>> No.58298116

>>58298079
Depends on whether the connection between the PSU and the mobo is proprietary.

>> No.58298119

>>58298079
Make sure the power supply can fit in that case. Dell cases sometimes have some proprietary bullshit going on that doesn't fit with normal ATX stuff. I'd just play it safe and stick to a 1050ti and keep your current power supply.

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58298130

Hey /pcbg/,

I'm looking for a high FPS 1080p build. I've been working on this for a bit, but I wanted to know general opinions on it, or things to streamline a bit.

I keep jumping back and forth between the graphics card, the case (Which supposedly does fit the EVO and has front USB 3.0 ports despite what partpicker says), and whether to use 8 or 16gb ram.

Budget should keep it around this same area, $700-800 USD. Any suggestions or help to offer? Thanks in advance, guys.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rPZTFd

>> No.58298174

>>58291490
http://us.aoc.com/product_feature.php?id=15

yay or hay

>> No.58298192

>>58298130
Just like to point out that you have a non-k, non-overclockable intel CPU in your setup.
6600K is what you're looking for.

>> No.58298201
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58298201

I'd like to thank this thread and the anons who browse it for helping me find the right parts and build a capable computer.
My last machine had a GTX 645, so this definitely feels like an upgrade.

>> No.58298230

where's a good place to buy an OS? no gnu pls, I have to do solidworks, Autocad, Cam programs too. I'd also like to game.

I looked at Kinguin and their 25$ keys, but I'm unsure if they're legit.

>> No.58298241

>>58298116
>>58298119
Thanks for the help. I did some research and the mobo's power through the PCIe x16 slot is "designed for a 35 watt draw" or something like that. I'm probably better off building a whole new machine for anything nicer..

>> No.58298243

>>58298201
>Dat monitor.

Wew.

>> No.58298247

>>58298230
Just buy em with a visa gift card or something.
If it goes bad, the kinguin insurance policy should cover you.

>> No.58298249
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58298249

so ive been confused about power cables from my psu.

some Gpus require 2 8 pin power connections

my corsair rm750x has a cable that ends with a 6pin with a 2pins split off of it. Then an addiction 6pin splits off the 6pin with its own 2pin. I made a picture.

Is this the cable I would plug into a GPU? and do i plug all of them in to a 16pin GPU?

>> No.58298250

>>58298243
Already went over budget, so I used the shitty one I had before.

>> No.58298280

>>58298249
>my corsair rm750x has a cable that ends with a 6pin with a 2pins split off of it. Then an addiction 6pin splits off the 6pin with its own 2pin. I made a picture.
In fact, it should have two identical such cables.

>Is this the cable I would plug into a GPU?
Yes.

>and do i plug all of them in to a 16pin GPU?
If you have a 16-pin GPU, use both cables, and plug one connector of each into your GPU.

>> No.58298310

>>58298247
aight, I just can't stand the thought of paying 100$ for a software that they barely did any upgrades on.

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>> No.58298498
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58298498

I need help, guys.
I want a decent motherboard for i5 6500/6600 with 4 dimm slots and at least 2 pci (not an express one) slots. Budget is around 120 USD.

>> No.58298587

Could a faulty USB cable cause catastrophic (read: fire) failure of a GPU or did my PSU fail? One of my GPUs started smoking on saturday and killed my mobo and it burst into flames when I did testing today on a brand new mobo which killed it as well.

There were no scorch marks on the pci-e supplementary power cables but the pci-e lane (before the notch where the 12V power comes from) of my new mobo's are scorched and the solder came out from the back of the mobo.

Could the PSU be fucked up or did a shorted usb cable just fry the GPU because it was seemingly fine before I plugged in the cable.

I don't think it was a heat issue as it was the liquid cooled card and top card of my SLI setup.

>> No.58298593

>>58298587
I forgot to mention that I have a Rosewill quark 850 W Platinum PSU.

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58298615

>>58298130
You won't get to use all of your ram's speed because of your processor.

>> No.58298647

i was gifted a 4x4gb of ddr4 ram. i've heard only certain mobo's and cpus can make full use of all four slots but i don't know where to start.

>> No.58298687

>>58298498
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813128840

>> No.58298758

>>58298687
>and at least 2 pci slots

>> No.58298776

Anybody have any suggestions for a case for a girl new to pc building/gaming? It needs to be ATX and have atleast 2 internal bays and 2 external bays.

>> No.58298782

>>58298587
>Burst into flames
Okay...
>SLI
Alright..

By any chance, did you have an EVGA GPU, 1070/1080?

>> No.58298785

>>58298647
if you going with intel

https://ark.intel.com/

i5-6600k
https://ark.intel.com/products/88191/Intel-Core-i5-6600K-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz

Max # of Memory Channels 2

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1151

B150, Q150, H170, Q170, Z170 can support 4 sticks of ram (4 Dimm Slots).

4 Slots, 2 slots for 1 channel, the other 2 slots for the other Channel.

>> No.58298789

>>58298776
Fractal Designs R5 series

>> No.58298807

>>58298192

Ah thank you, I'm not familiar with shopping for Intel, and a lot of the pcbg lists on partpicker have things like the i5-6500 with the GA-Z170 board, so it is a bit confusing

>>58298615

Wow, well fuck me. Good catch, thank you. That'll certainly trim down some costs adjusting. Any other suggestions?

>> No.58298809

>>58298758
>>58298498
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#d=2,6&X=0,12962&N=4,16&sort=a8&R=5,4,3

>> No.58298818

>>58298789

A bit overkill and not terribly visually appealing is it?

>> No.58298856

>>58291490
roast me
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LDQbyf

>> No.58298873

>>58298818
guess it depends what you find appealing.

when it came out youtube reviewers loved it for being very easy to build in. good fans, sound suppressing material lining the case, tons of space for additional fans&radiators, lots of space for cable management, tons of harddrive bays that are removeable.

im also new to building pc's, and wanted something that was easy to work in, expand within, and reuse for future builds.

>> No.58298890

>>58298873

All very good, but I'm really looking for something that comes in non-standard colors.

>> No.58298897

>>58298809
Thanks. So any main board from this list will do the job?

>> No.58298929

>>58298897
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#d=2,6&X=0,12962&N=4,16&sort=a8&R=5,4,3&s=30

sorry forgot it hit the LGA1151 button since thats the socket that cpu will work with.

the AM#+ are for AMD cpus.

> So any main board from this list will do the job?

i hope so. i used the sliders to filter out the options.

>> No.58298942

>>58298897
but why 2 PCI slots and not PCI-E?

>>58298890
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146189

...glossy white?

>> No.58298975
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>>58298856
If you're not buying a gfx card, go mini-ITX

>>58298615
Not true, mobo chipset allows for OC'd RAM

>>58298807
It's the chipset (need Z170), not the CPU, that determines whether OC'd RAM can be used.

Pic comes from eurogamer's i5 6500 review.

>i5-6500 with the GA-Z170 board
So that you can use OC'd RAM and upgrade to an unlocked i7 later

>>58298587
If EVGA they've been having that problem

>>58298250
You really need a better monitor. That GTX 1070 is being competely wasted. You could easily get the max FPS possible on that monitor with a GTX1060 in the vast, vast majority of games

At least get a 60Hz 1080p monitor for $50 used.

>>58298130
Since you already have a cooler, may as well buy an unlocked CPU

>> No.58299081
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build this last month thanks to /pcbg/ not memeing me into buying ayymd, works like a charm, 1080p 60fps+ on ultra on any AAA title.

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>>58297084
I say SATA. Much cheaper than the faster alternatives and noticeably just as fast 90% of the time.
If you have money to burn then get an M2, but not just any M2, Samsungs 950/951/960 M2 SSDs. They're a step above in terms of speed and very few M2 drives come remotely close (and don't forget many M2 drives are still SATA based instead of the faster PCIe based NVME). Here's an Intel 600p M2 drive compared to a regular 730 SATA SSD (a good one, but still normal SATA SSD speeds)
I just cannot see PCIe drives being any good for their price, comparably fast drives are coming out for fractions of the price of PCIe drives.

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>>58299123
And here's a 960 or 950 pro, don't remember which. The point is they're fast, but so are SATA ssds

>> No.58299257

>>58298929
Many thanks.
>>58298942
>but why 2 PCI slots and not PCI-E?
Because PCI asus xonar and tv-tuner board with RCA connectors.

>> No.58299264

>>58299257
win10 doesnt have native PCI support

>> No.58299284

>>58297640
Could I grab some more opinions here?

>> No.58299317

>>58291490
How much gains will I see if I upgrade from an i5 2500k? Seems to still do pretty well for gaming. Should I keep it and put the money towards a graphics card upgrade instead? Would be coming from a 770.

>> No.58299318

After reading about how shitty windows 10 is I'm debating whether to go with a 6800k which is supported by windows 7 or wait for ryzen but I'd be locked to Windows 10. What's the best option?

>> No.58299328

>>58299317
Gfx card, but get an i7 3770K when you can

>> No.58299343

>>58299264
Really? I saw a lot of users with PCi cards (SB Live!, hell even 3Com network adapters from 1998) running fine under Win10.

>> No.58299355

>>58298782
>>58298975
Yes it was EVGA but it was a 980Ti Hybrid card

>> No.58299480

Do many people really need anything other than mitx?

Personally i regret getting an atx mother board

>> No.58299501

>>58299480
If you're going to OC and possibly mGPU, yes

>> No.58299520

>>58299480
Well yes, quality power phases and expansion slots are still in demand.

>> No.58299532

nice video game consoles

>> No.58299559

>>58299343

I even ran into trouble running a soundblaster live in windows 7.

I had more luck in Linux when trying a sb live and tuner card (Aims Lab Highway Xtreme BT848)

>> No.58299567

>>58299520
Tell me about power phases

>> No.58299646

>>58299567
im a different person and im new to this, but essentially its like having the ability to control the flow of power to the cores of your CPU. The more chokes and mosfets* you the more sharing of the load goes on, meaning they run cooler not having to work as hard, which increase their lifespan and efficiency. while only giving your cpu the power that it needs, not less or to much, so you have more consistent overclocking. like a little power supply on your motherboard somewhat dedicated to the cpu cores.

>> No.58299722

currently stuck with this old amd, what would be a good upgrade? i was thinking about used i5's like the 4690 or something like that

>> No.58299734
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>>58299722
forgot pic ofc

>> No.58299757

>>58292597
Kaby Lake is a miniscule performance boost over Skylake for higher temperatures and power draw. Most definitely not worth it unless you need the new features it offers. As for the rest, you'll just have to wait and see until we get some real benchmarks

>> No.58299835

>>58298975

So to clarify what you were saying, as long as I have the proper chipset (Z170) I can use the OC'd ram as long as the specific board supports it?

Then it would make sense to hop to an i5 6600K, like you said, due to having a pre-existing cooler (Still have a bit of a budget to follow) and upgrade to an i7, or similar unlockable card later.

So something like this?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wtQHpb

>> No.58299840

>>58299317
Kepler isn't holding up nearly as well as GCN 1.0 is, and Sandy Bridge is still pretty good(not great, but good). Get a new GPU first, then start looking into whether a new CPU would be worth it.

>> No.58300049

>>58299343
It's a motherboard support kind of deal

>> No.58300054

>>58299646
Power phases are basically redundant VRMs, you want the cleanest voltage possible don't you

>> No.58300295

BUILD VIRGIN HERE

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/NhbqPs

Let me know of any issues before I pull the trigger and order all the parts

Also, do I have to fucking buy windows again?

>> No.58300326
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58300326

Here's a build I'm planning for when the 1080 Ti drops provided it isn't a pile of shit. I'd like to do my first custom water cooled loop too. Hard tubing, because aesthetics.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8hzcBP

Budget: trying to limit it to £3k.
Purpose: 144Hz 1440p gaming, sometimes 7780x1440 gaming, being silent and making my dick rock hard whenever I look through the side window.

>> No.58300328

which ssd should i pick?
Transcend SSD370
Transcend TS6500 ( Silicon Motion SM2246EN 4 channnels
+ Micron 128Gbit 20nm MLC + Samsung 512 MB LPDDR2,

or
GoodRam Iridium Pro 240gb
Phison PS3110-S10 ( 8 channels ) + Toshiba 64Gbit A19nm MLC + Nanya 256 MB LPDDR3(1600MHz CL11),

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>>58300295
Eyy that's 1200 American burgerbucks ($1600 including the 1070) for a 6700k/1070 build, not an amazing price but not a bad build considering the usual local prices and/or shipping. You could shave off some money by getting a cheaper motherboard or 3000mhz ram (if you can find a good deal on it), or by switching to an aircooled CPU heatsink (it'll last longer and you don't have a window anyways)
Don't forget a good monitor, it'll be expensive as fuck but that 1070 can do a lot more than 1080p and 60hz.
You can download Windows 10 home from Microsoft by looking up "create installation media Windows 10" to make a bootable USB. Then boot with it, install Windows and don't activate it. You'll have a small watermark in the bottom corner of the screen and can't change the taskbar color but other than that it's Windows 10 for free

>> No.58300403

>>58300350

Thanks for the info.

My friend gifted me his LG29um58 monitor. Is this monitor okay for gaming?

>> No.58300433

>>58300403
An ultrawide 1080p 75hz IPS monitor?
It's good, enough to justify a 1070 at least

>> No.58300489

>>58297896
I'd say blue as well. Reds are slower drives designed for NAS systems to run 24/7. Blues are for desktop use, give them a go.

>> No.58300564
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Looking for a decent monitor for gaming and general use. I'm not on a budget (ausbucks) but I'm hoping to not spend too much. Currently have a Benq gw2255 and it's served me well so far but it's only 60hz. Any brands to stay away from?

>> No.58300823
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Ignoring gaming, what can you do with an i5 6500 (8GB RAM) that you can't do with an i3 6100 (4GB RAM)?

>> No.58300854

>>58300823
about 4GB worth of extra programs running simultaneously

>> No.58300859
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Finally shipped lads. 1tb model.

>> No.58300883

>>58300823
The i5 is quite a bit better at multitasking and anything that uses more than 2 threads. Obviously you're not going to see much of a difference if all you do is shitpost on 4chan, though.

>> No.58301033

>>58300883
That's what I was thinking about, it had me worried. What if I spend money on something I will never utilize? You know, I will go with the i3. Thanks. But should I go 4GB or 8GB?

>> No.58301122

>>58300854
same question as this >>58301033
Should i get 8GB with an i3? I just thought how can I run an extra 4GB of programs if I don't have the better cpu to run them?

>> No.58301174

>>58301122
The i3 6100 will run multiple programs perfectly fine. It's a dual core with hyperthreading for 4 effective logical cores.

The thing with RAM is having more doesn't help until you run out, but when you run out it's a disaster. Right now I'm running Windows 10 with three Firefox windows open, one playing a Youtube video, and using 3.3GB of RAM. You can see it wouldn't take much more to exhaust 4GB.

The price of 8GB vs 4GB of DDR4 RAM is very small. Much better IMO to make sure you have enough to cover all eventualities.

Could you post the rest of your system, a budget and some more details about what you intend to use it for?

>> No.58301177

>>58301122
Just because they're in the memory doesn't mean they're putting much of a strain on the CPU. And more RAM allows more caching, making the system overall snappier since you don't have to wait for everything to be loaded back into RAM.

Again, depends on what you do. I'm currently using 2 GB of RAM even though I only have browser and music player open - and this is using Linux, Windows obviously would be using more than that. I probably wouldn't go for less than 8 GB for a windows machine.

>> No.58301361

I have just received in the post
>PSU
>SSD for fresh OS install
>HDD for storing all games
>GPU
Waiting on RAM.
Which order should I install these in?

>> No.58301376

pls rate


https://pcpartpicker.com/list/F6Rm2R

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>>58301376
Please rate me? This is my very first time. Thank you all in advance.

>> No.58301561

What would be the best card for 1280x1024?

>> No.58301636

>>58301550
>14,500,494.00
Jeez

>> No.58301659

Other than the components, what other equipment do I need to build a PC?
Also what should i clip an anti static band to?

>> No.58301672

>>58301361
Install your games to your SSD.
Any and all programs should go there. HDD is for storage.
PSU last.

>> No.58301746

>>58301636
It's in local currency, dude. That's just 637.59 USD.

>> No.58301779

>>58301550
>i5 6400
>3GB 1060

It's shit. Either get an i3 or upgrade to 6500: the 6400 has shitty single-threaded performance thanks to 3.2 GHz turbo, and its multi-threaded performance is just slightly better than an i3. As for the GPU, either get a 480 4GB(or even a 470) or the 6GB version of 1060.

Oh, and it's better to get 2x4GB of RAM instead of 1x8GB, because your CPU and chipset can use dual-channel.

>> No.58301802

>>58301779
Thanks, I didn't know that.

>> No.58301824

>>58301746
I understand that, it's just how little value can currency have.

>> No.58302012

>>58301550
sup Vietnam?

>>58301779 had good advice. I see your build isn't complete - I'd add that you should seriously consider a small (120-240GB, you can of course go larger if you want) SSD for your OS and programs. It makes a lot more difference to the general perceived 'speed' of your computer than a change in processor.

>> No.58302056

>>58301561
For gaming? RX 460.

Not gaming? Integrated graphics.

>> No.58302091

>>58302056
Yes for gaming
>RX 460
Isn't that a bit overkill?

>> No.58302098

>>58299318
pls respond.

>> No.58302132

>>58302091
It's kinda hard to judge since 1920x1080 is generally the minimum resolution used for benchmarks.

If you want to play games from five years ago you could probably go lower, like an R7 250. If it were my PC and I wanted to play modern games (at 1280x1024) I'd be wary of going lower than a RX 460. But whatever floats your camel.

>> No.58302140

>>58299318
>>58302098
Do you want to play modern games?

If yes, suck it up and get Windows 10. It's not that bad.

>> No.58302184

>>58302140
i want to be productive and be able to pirate shit without worrying about the guvment. There arent any good game using dx12 and won't vulkan be crossplatform?

>> No.58302631

Convince me not to get this meme.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/XCs3WX

looks quite good to me tbqh.

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>>58302631

>> No.58302682

>>58302631
>>58302644
>current year
>FM2+
>no SSD
>stock cooler on ayyymd
>expensive PSU
Yes anon, this is a meme build.

>> No.58302695

>>58302682
>>FM2+
what is the problem?

>>no SSD
I already have one that I'll use.

>>stock cooler on ayyymd
seems fine tbqh

>>expensive PSU
what else is there to get besides some chink shit that will explode and kill me?

>> No.58302705

>>58301659
Anyone?
All the parts are in their way but idk I need anything else.

>> No.58302719

E5 1650 Sandy Bridge System for 200€
ye or meh?

>> No.58302741

>>58302719
With 8gb RAM, 425 Watt psu and shit GPU..

>> No.58302742
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>>58291490

RX 470 8gb, RX 480 8gb or GTX 1060 6gb?

current specs pic related

>> No.58302766

>>58302742
I'd suggest getting 4 GB 480, but if that's not an option, then either 480 or 1060, whichever is cheaper/whichever you prefer.

>> No.58302767

>>58302742
RX 480 8GB

>> No.58302783

>>58302695
>what is the problem?
Soon to be dead platform.

>seems fine tbqh
Yeah no.

>what else is there to get besides some chink shit that will explode and kill me?
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/NwQypg/seasonic-power-supply-ss300etbronze

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>>58302742

>> No.58302810

>>58302783
fine pick me better build then

>> No.58302825
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>>58302766

>> No.58302840

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8MGZWX

paycheck came today, last post before I pull the trigger

anything wrong with this?

*I'm getting an MK Disco keyboard, not the corsair one on my list. That's just a placeholder for the price.

>> No.58302848

>>58302810
>budget
>purpose
>spoon feed me please
Not like this, leaf.

>> No.58302870

>>58302848
>>budget
$400-500
>>purpose
Shitposting and miscellanious memes. I also want to play Wrath WoW in wine
>>spoon feed me please
Yes please, baby hungry

>> No.58302874

>>58302840
Mobo is trash, speakers are.. well, they will produce sound and personally i'd get the NH-D15 or NH-U14S, but your choice is fine. Mainboard is overpriced meme shit, too.

>> No.58302900

>>58302870
http://www.logicalincrements.com/games/wow

>> No.58302926

>>58302900
yeah but i only want to play it sometimes and probably not at all soon

>> No.58302933

>>58302806
>>58302825

So, if i understand, GTX is worse on DX11, but better on DX12?

>> No.58302951

>>58302933
The other way around. AMD is all-around better at DX12 and Vulcan. And even in DX11, the advantage 1060 had has mostly vanished by now.

>> No.58302954

>>58302874
Preferable mobo for that price range?

>> No.58302962

>>58302933
In theory it's the exact opposite. In practice it depends on the application. AMD GPUs usually have more raw compute for DX12 to leverage than Nvidia's better optimized equivalent; but the DX12 dev needs the skill to utilize the extra raw horsepower.

See also: why the FX series was a hilarious failure

>> No.58302970

>>58301672
I've over a TB of games, I can put my most played on the SSD but with automatic updates the constant rewrites are a concern.

>> No.58302985

>>58302933
It's mostly depending on titles atm.
AMD ages much better and improves over time. 10% increase is a lot over 6 months and they keep working on it.
>>58302962
What has fx to do with this?

>> No.58302991

Never touched the insides of a computer in my life, chose parts based on what I saw in this thread. Are there any glaring issues with this build?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FWGCCy

>> No.58302997

So in case anyone was wondering, the DeepCool™ Gammaax™™ 400® performs pretty damn well. It's a bit of a bitch to install with the plastic stock heatsink style pins they use, but it performs admirably. Probably equal to better to a 212+, but cheaper.

Yeah that sounded like shilling but honestly I bought one and wanted to do a mini review. I got a temp spreadsheet for stock versus the Gammaax but I'm not at home. Would anyone be interested in me posting those temps?

>> No.58303017

>>58302954
If you want a good OC mobo look for Asus Z170 Pro Gaming / Z170-A and Gigabyte GA-Z170X-UD3.
Should be in the same range, maybe 20 bucks more expensive. cheaper options are Asus Z170-P/K and Gigabyte Z170-HD3/D/P whatever, there are three versions or so.

>> No.58303023

>>58302985
FX series CPUs had the same problem as AMD GPUs in DX11 and bad DX12. Sure, they've got moar cores, and if you can leverage all the raw computer they're damn good chips. But nothing actually leverages all that compute, which makes Intel's more efficient chips faster in the real world.

>> No.58303027

>>58303017
Alright, thanks

>> No.58303037

>>58303017
I can vouch for the Gigabyte Z170 HD3P. The BIOS is kinda shit but it has USB 3.1 A and C, and it got my i3 6100 to 4.8GHz

>> No.58303043

>>58302997
>Would anyone be interested in me posting those temps?
Yes please, how about noise, is it noticeable and how does it compare to the stock jet engine?
What about thermal compound, is it pre-applied like on the Be Quiet! Pure Rock series?

>> No.58303068

>>58303023
I don't think this is comparable at all.
For consumers you should go for the better Single Core performance regarding CPU obviously. There's no equivalent of Single Core performance regarding a GPU.
They took actual gaming Benchmarks for the rx and gtx comparison so they did real world comparison for consumers.

>> No.58303076

>>58303043
Thermal compound comes in a little packet that lets you apply it how you like, and spread well. Fan was noisy until I realized I was a retard and had a wire running across it. Removed wire. Fan is quieter than stock, it's got a noticeable wooshing under load but it's not a high pitched whine. I would recommend an aftermarket fan for it except most of those cost as much as they Gammaax 400 does on sale.

I'll post the temps on pcbg (this thread of the next one) when I get home

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>fedex put my parts on the delivery truck saturday morning
>fedex building is 10 minutes from my house
>as of today they have still not been delivered because of new years

please

i want to build

>> No.58303112

can you plug/unplug hard disks while the system is on? are they like usbs?

>> No.58303151

>>58303076
Push-pins suck big time, but rest sounds good. No wonder that thing is getting good reviews. Honestly, i think Deepcool is a bretty good brand if you want to go budget.
Their coolers are fine and Tessaract is an excellent budget case with 2 fans, only their "premium" products are shit compared to the competition, if you ask me.

>>58303099
NO. FUN. ALLOWED.

>> No.58303157

>>58303068
>>58302962
Tldr: you're implying Bullshit with your see also thing
The rx 480 is overall the better product.

>> No.58303168

>>58303112
Yes, this also works with the CPU/GPU since it's plug & play update Intels newest chipset series for Skylake.

>> No.58303180

>>58303151
I got the Gammaax 400 for $18 Canadian Pesos before tax and shipping so it couldn't go wrong without being worse than stock

>> No.58303233

>>58303180
Lucky you, Deepcool products have absolute shit availability here in Jewmany, a fucking Gamaxx 300 will make you pay 26 bucks to the Juden.

>> No.58303432

>>58302991
Need 3000MHz RAM

>> No.58303446

I got a new Toshiba 3TB drive.
When I fit this in the computer won't boot (despite the boot disk being something else) and I hear that dreadful clicking sound.
When I took the new Toshiba drive out, the system boots as it should.
What is the error here? Is the new disk dead on arrival? I hadn't even formatted it, this was the first boot with it installed.

>> No.58303512

>>58303432
Why? Is RAM speed ever the bottleneck?

>> No.58303527

I wanna upgrade my pc and thinking of going to Intel for it or sticking with amd. Right now I got
>AMD Athlon II X4 630
>MSI 870-G45 mobo
>8 gig ram
>PNY 1060 6 gb
If I go with Intel my choices are
>i5-6600k
>MSI z170A Mobo
Or wait for AMD zen(or get a FX card) and get the MSI 970 mobo.
Broke ass college kid, is Intel really worth saving up and going for it. i am Computer science major.

>> No.58303568

>>58303446
>I hear that dreadful clicking sound.
Dead drive, RMA it. Also stay away from 3TB drives, they have the highest failure rate across the board.

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>>58291490
What's the best motherboard for overclocking? I'm thinking about getting an i7-6700k.

>> No.58303609

Gammaax 400 temperatures for anon

Stock fan, i3 6100 @ 4.4GHz, 1.3v
Ambient - 18.5°C
Idle - 30
Prime 95 - 62
Cinebench - 74

Gammaax 400
Ambient - 20°C
Idle - 26 (∆5.5)
Prime 95 - 47 (∆17)
Cinebench - 56 (∆19.5)

Temperature deltas adjusted for ambient

>> No.58303616

>>58303568
That's a shame. I'll see if I can get another 2TB Hitachi.

>> No.58303630

>>58303512
Skylake actually skales with higher frequency RAM

>> No.58303631

>>58303043
See
>>58303609

>> No.58303668

>>58303512
It's not, the differences in gaming are almost nonexistent. But, you might as well get it since it's usually around the same price. Check the Newegg shellshocker sale, there's some cheap corsair vengeance 3000mhz

>> No.58303713

>>58303630
>>58303668
Thanks for replying.

So speed has an effect, how about timings?

>> No.58303753 [DELETED] 

For those of you that don't check it,
http://www.newegg.com/special/shellshocker.aspx?utm_medium=Email&utm_source=IGNEFL010317&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL010317-_-EMC-010317-Index-_-MECH-_-ShellShocker-EB2B&et_cid=31059&et_rid=17600862&et_p1=&email64=QnJpYW5MSDk2QGdtYWlsLmNvbQ==
There's a rosewill case with five fans for $40 after rebate, 3000 mhz vengeance for $96 (which much cheaper than full price, but it's there), and a g.skill gaymin keyboard for $70

>> No.58303861

>>58303609
>>58303631
That are very nice results for a HSF that cheap.

>> No.58304010
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58304010

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2jJrpb
how'd i do

payed premium for aesthetics, insurance, and preferred brands

>> No.58304018

>>58304010
>not going for the 16 gig corsair LED ram

>> No.58304133

>>58292597
>learning python

>> No.58304242

>>58304010
Very nice. Why not use watercooling?

>> No.58304278

>>58300326
I can't figure out where that 2nd 280mm is in the loop, but the general recommendation is that your pump's intake should come straight after the rad, so the water can cool the motor as effectively as possible instead of heating it up. The temperature difference before and after the rad shouldn't be too high in general though, at least not in custom loops since you can have a lot of surface area for dissipation, it may not matter much.

>> No.58304279

I am looking for a good 1070 GPU, but can't really decide.
I am from europe so the prices are all over the place, and doesn't always equal a good product.
What can you recommend?

ps. Does some cards still blow up?

>> No.58304291

hows this lads?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

>> No.58304358

>>58304242
A couple things, the case is too small because i originally planned to have a 6600k and didnt think I needed water cooling.

Also though, since I did upgrade to the 6700k, overclocking isnt as much of a big deal to me right now.

regardless, the cooler and fans i will upgrade as i see needed.

>> No.58304364

>>58303603
Any Z170 board.

>> No.58304365

this is what i got

the peripherics were a gift


https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k4ZYf8

>> No.58304378

>>58304365
>memory 8gb

fucked up there, there are 2x8GB sticks

>> No.58304408

>>58304291
you need to paste the link in the slightly upper left part.

>> No.58304424

>>58304291
Really good. looks super similar to my build, good taste anon

>> No.58304425

how do i choose between a processor?

everyone talks budget, but i'd rather spend a little bit more if i know i'm getting a quality product that meets my needs.

ceiling is an i7-6700k, but i'd like to learn how to pick and choose between them to find something more tailored towards my needs

>> No.58304432

>>58304425
what are your needs

>> No.58304438

>>58304010
>pny
>g.skill

eh

also, you can do well with a 650w psu. since you probably want to OC,given your choice of psu, water cooling would be better

i r8 6/10

>> No.58304462

>>58304438
thanks anon!

>since you probably want to OC

see >>58304358
i'm probably gonna have to buy a bigger case before i can get decent water cooling. until then, i really dont need to OC the 6700k for any realistic purposes anyway lol.

shows what happens when you buy things over the course of a week and decide to change budget halfway through.

>> No.58304486
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>>58304278
I haven't done a very good job of representing the layout in 3D space, sorry. There's a tube bends from the pump outlet round into the bottom rad inlet but it's mostly obscured by the pump itself. Hopefully these arrows will help.

Current order is:
>Pump/res
>Bottom rad
>T splitter with ball valve attached for draining
>GPU block
>Top rad
>CPU block
>Back to pump/res

I'd read the same about the loop order, hoped it wouldn't be a huge factor since I have 2x280mm rads and am only cooling one GPU and the CPU. I could re-jig it so the flow goes from the CPU block to the bottom rad, then to the pump, but it makes the drain setup more of a bitch to work out. Having it straight up attached to the bottom rad outlet closest to the open side of the case is ideal.

>> No.58304498

How much of a meme are 144hz monitors?

I play overwatch quite a bit, and so the high refresh rate is tempting, but I also do photo editing and TN monitors seem very unappealing compared to IPS.

Should I just get a 1080p/1440p IPS?

>> No.58304500

>>58304432

i'd like to run a dual-monitor setup with gaming on one and typical day-to-day work on the other. i'm also an engineering student, so i need a bit of headroom for CAD programs for the next couple years

>> No.58304546

shieet, i fugged up. Heres the real link

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wmNCCy

hows this lads?

>> No.58304570

>>58302719
>E5 1650 Sandy Bridge System for 200€
> ye or meh?
>With 8gb RAM, 425 Watt psu and shit GPU..
Bump

>> No.58304583

>>58304498
I had a 60Hz 1440p IPS, which was nice.

Then I got a 144Hz 1440p TN, and it's fucking amazing for FPS. It's difficult to describe. It feels like your mouse movements are more accurate somehow. I feel more accurate in CSGO and Overwatch than before.

I'm using the IPS panel as a second monitor for now until I can replace it with a pair of TN 1440p monitors, it's kind ugly having a mix of TN and IPS right now. Personally the colour difference doesn't bother me. They look different but I'm too much of a pleb to notice which one looks better and which looks worse. The viewing angles is also a non-issue for me because from my chair the viewing angle is pretty much perpendicular.

You do photo editing though so you'll value IPS colour much more than I do. 144Hz is no meme, though, it's great for FPS in particular.

>> No.58304586

>>58304438
>pny
>g.skill
Nothing wrong with those brands, stop shitposting.

>> No.58304599

>>58304546
Get 3000 RAM and a non-meme case.

>> No.58304634

>>58304500
>CAD, gaming
Probably want more than two physical cores. Nix i3 and Pentium

Do you want to overclock? If yes, pick a K series SKU like the 6600K or 6700K

Do you really need hyperthreading / virtualization / other "bonus features" the i7 has over the i5? If not, i5. If so, i7.

If not overclocking, pick the cheapest i5/i7. If overclocking, pick a K series chip.

You *will* need a graphics card for gaming unless you're playing super light games like CSGo or TF2 at 60fps or whatever. Not even Overwatch runs well on CPU graphics.

If you're picking up an i5, look for a $200-300 graphics card. If you're getting an i7, splurge on something nice like a 1070 or 1080.

Remember, graphics cards can accelerate CAD work too.

>> No.58304702

>>58304634
>If not overclocking, pick the cheapest i5/i7. If overclocking, pick a K series chip.
Shit advice. No-one should ever get a 6400 unless it's within few bucks of a 6300.

>> No.58304732

>tfw downclocking
I can hit 4.8GHz and be stable, but the voltage I need to use is a little crazy and it runs really hot. 4.6 will run wayyy cooler and at a lower voltage. And it's only 5% less overclock. I can even clock the RAM higher and make up the difference a bit.

But still
>Not running at the absolute max speed my processor can handle
Feels melancholy man

>> No.58304772

What level of PSU will I need for an i5 6600k and an RX480? I don't intend to over clock but will be using it for video/graphics editing.

>> No.58304782

Need help. I will soon be building my first machine, it's pretty budget but it should do fine for my needs.
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/carloosarias/saved/fCCwP6
I am torn between the RX 460 or the GTX 1050. Will be pairing it with an Athlon x4 845.
The difference is like $1 and according to logicalincrements, the GTX 1050 performs better.

>> No.58304791

My pc got really, really slow
But only chrome and loading desktop and files
Chrome especially if I have few tabs open with videos at the same time
Games and programs run fine (I only play ow anyways)

Is it because my 250gb ssd doesn't have space left anymore? Only like 10 gb left
My 1tb hdd is also full
Yes I'm about to buy another hdd, maybe another ssd
Or is it ram
Or why did this happen
I have 8gb ram
I built the pc about 5 years ago

Cpu is xeon e3

>> No.58304793

>>58304772
http://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator

>> No.58304842
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thoughts?

>> No.58304844

>>58304732
After some quick benchmarking 4.6GHz gives me 97% of the performance that 4.8GHz gives me while running 10° cooler and a whole 0.1v lower

Yeah 4.8GHz might only be good for bragging rights and e peen

>> No.58304845

Will 2400 MHz ddr4 ram hold back a 6700k and gtx 1080?

>> No.58304854
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58304854

Can I expect any benefits from using my 6600K with a Z270 motherboard?

>> No.58304859

>>58304842
If you're not getting a crazy ten core i7 going Haswell-E instead of Skylake is probably dumb. Get a Z170 chipset and a i7 6700K or something, unless you already own one of the components.

>> No.58304868

>>58304854
Literally none that you wouldn't find on a high end Z170 board with a BIOS update

>> No.58304875

>>58304793

Exactly what I was looking for. The rig gives a reading of 360W which seems low but that's perfect as I don't need some monster PSU now.

>> No.58304885
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58304885

What are my options for good low-cost LGA1151 motherboards? Trying to scoop up a new build for under 500CAD and I've settled on the 6500 since it seems to not give up much performance while saving me some cash. My one problem is the selecting of a motherboard that works.

>> No.58304909

>>58304885
>2400 ram
>$110

>> No.58304933

>>58304909

It's Canada my friend.

>> No.58304989
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58304989

>>58304859

the reason i had 6 cores is for dual monitors

but here are some modifications

>> No.58304995

>>58291490
whats the "best" unlocked haswell cpu for say multi processing functions,im not into gaming but would be decrypting and running multiple programs,need something speedy..but,is there anything catered towards that as opposed to gaming..is there a goto cpu that jus werks?

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58305008

>>58304989
>dual monitor performance being affected by cpu

>> No.58305030

Should I get 1080, or wait for the 1080ti?

>> No.58305043

>>58305008

what would affect it?

if i'm gaming on one and doing everything else on the other in tandem

>> No.58305060

>>58305030
Wait 48 hours until the 1080ti is revealed and you'll know.

>> No.58305083

>>58305043
your graphics card, dunce

>> No.58305101

>>58305030
It won't be faster than the new Titan X

>> No.58305168

>>58304875
Power supplies are most efficient between 40-60% load, so you might want a 600W one to save some heat and power bill, also to allow upgrade headrolm

>> No.58305194

>>58303023

so basically, amd cpus are like industrial vehicles, very powerful but slow, and intel is the sports vehicle, less powerful but faster

>> No.58305196

>>58304242
>>58304438

Ok i'm >>58304010
i think i'll just grab a water cooler even though i bought that cheap cryorig, i have the expendable income, sucks that i wasted 30$ though.

how is this?

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/Vwdqqs/corsair-cpu-cooler-h60cw9060007ww

>> No.58305220

>>58305101
I'm hoping for a repeat of the 980 Ti but I'm not holding my breath.

90-95% of the Titan X's performance for ~60-70% of the price would be nice.

>> No.58305612

So I just finished a build with Christmas money and money I've been saving up. Here it is, https://pcpartpicker.com/list/n7jFCy.

I fell short on money and wasn't able to get a graphics card yet, so I'm currently running without one. I have two choices for my card, which one would you say is better?

http://www.microcenter.com/product/471940/GeForce_GTX_1050_Ti_SuperClocked_GAMING_4GB_GDDR5_Video_Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202230&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

>> No.58305628

Is it worth getting a mechanical keyboard?
I won't be doing too much gaming, so is it worth putting the extra money in?

>> No.58305671

>>58305612
It's not even a question. 470 is better hands-down if you have a PSU that can handle it. 1050ti is overpriced for what it is, and the only reason you'd get it is because it's the most powerful GPU that can be powered by the PCIe lanes alone.

>> No.58305690

>>58305628
Get one with blue or clear switches. I've had one for a year now, and it's so much better for typing.

>> No.58305714

>>58305612
This: >>58305671 , plus you get hitman with the 470 which is a nice bonus
(altho if you feel like it, you could probably squeeze in a 480 if you downgraded your CPU to an i5 6500)

>> No.58305728

>>58305714
I probably should have gotten a 6500, but I already bought everything a bit ago. Oh well.

>> No.58305748

>>58305728
it's fine, you can always upgrade later if you need to, plus AMD cards tend to age well, so you probably wont be going without high settings on most games at 1080p 60fps for the foreseeable future.

>> No.58305768

>>58305728
The 6600k will most likely outlast any GPU you could buy anyway, unless your MOBO craps itself.

>> No.58305811
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58305811

Is the logitech G710 the best choice for mechanical keyboards if I want one with some macro buttons? Can't stand the new romer g switches (need muh click clacks). Corsair's K95 is another option, but the software looks like shit and it's a bit more expensive.

>> No.58306016
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I've got pic related. I am thinking of replacing the GPU, as Radeon Housefire edition gets kind of hot. What should I aim for? I will probably switch to a 144hz monitor later this year.

Moreover - regarding the card. I have an almost 10 year old PSU - an Old Chieftec 620W unit. This one has no 8-pin pcie power, so my radeon is running on molex->8pin cable.

Recently, playing Dishonored 2, i started getting random crashes of the "now hard reset time" kind and I tracked them to the PSU. I think so because one 12V pin on the 8pin cable got burned and crumbled in my hands. Moreover, when running FurMark the voltage on the card (according to gpuz) drops to 10.5V from 12V.

Should I be worried and/or replace the PSU?

I usually run everything bone stock, but I might OC to 4-4.2 ghz when needed.

>> No.58306038

>buy DDR4 2133 RAM because lol Canada prices
>Stick cheerfully runs at 2666
Neato

>> No.58306128

Do all 7200rpm HDDs have roughly the same power consumption?

>> No.58306157
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58306157

>ASRock Z170 Extreme4
>GTX 1060 6GB
>Corsair CX430M
>2x4GB RAM


>plugging in all the wires
>finished
>turn on PSU, fan is whirring quietly
>the computer doesn't boot but the keyboard lights up
>after a bit, the keyboard stops receiving power
Fuck fuck fuck
How do I tell which component is damaged?

>> No.58306383

>>58306157
To add, I found out that turning on the PSU causes they keyboard to light up.
So, is it the PSU that's dying? The motherboard doesn't seem to be affected itself but I can't tell

>> No.58306422 [DELETED] 

>>58306157

Does it post? Check your bios chips

>> No.58306555

>>58305811

I got a g710. It's fucking built like a tank and has been kicking. Blues are loud and I switched to reds recently. Good keyboard.

>> No.58306591
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58306591

>>58306157
>Corsair CX430M
You deserve this.

>> No.58306604

>>58305612
470

>>58305030
1080Ti, but only if you have 1440p or above

>>58306016
>Should I be worried and/or replace the PSU?
Fuck yes

The only card that you could upgrade to is the GTX1070 (or 1080 obv)

>> No.58306642

new thread:
>>58306637
>>58306637

>> No.58306826

>>58306157
Next to your CMOS battery is a pair of LCD characters - this displays your POST error code. See what they read and look up the corresponding code in your motherboard's manual.

>> No.58307865

Anyone done a build with a fractal design Nano S yet?

>> No.58307892

>>58306016
>1GHz RAM
You should at least get DDR2.

>> No.58308083

>>58299081
BenQ? What kind of monitor is that?

>> No.58308705
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58308705

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnIIlOF5D6U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLxPjoY6QgE
THANKS BASED INTEL

>> No.58309100

>>58304854
Zero
You can use optane when it eventually gets flew leased, but who knows of thatll work on akylake

>> No.58309119

>>58305220
The 1080ti IS the Titan XP GPU

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