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Python programming language edition

Previously: >>57692338

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Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.

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>> No.57701048

>not using proprietary software
>using """""""libre""""""" crapware
>not knowing the feeling of actually getting shit done
How can anybody be this delusional?

>> No.57701052

daily reminder that whatever you do in python is not programming.
please do not call it that. fun, simplicity, readability, suitability for your personal scenario and other buzzwords you choose to use aren't a qualifier for being a programming language

>> No.57701074

who are you quoting?

>> No.57701119
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>falling for the KevinNet meme
>not giving a beautiful, compatible, and amazing distro a chance because of KDE shills on /g/
What did they mean by this?

>> No.57701174

>that piece of shite
What did he mean by this?

>> No.57701222

>What did they mean by this?
>What did he mean by this?
What did they mean by this?

Seriously I have no idea what the fuck you memekiddies are even talking about

>> No.57701242

*opens notepad++*
*starts """"""""""""programming"""""""""""" in python*
Sounds like a good plan
I'm using Arch if it matters.

>> No.57701370
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How can i write iso-s to usb drive without dd? CLI tools would be cool as dd always fucks up everything.

>> No.57701382


kde still looks like shit


rice is the only thing linux is good for

>> No.57701398

But dd works. What do you want?

>> No.57701416

Seriously though, what happened with Solus?
I was on here a week ago and there were nothing but Kevin and KevinNet threads for days.
Was the KevinNet thing just a meme, or was there actually some malicious shit found in Solus?

>> No.57701421

Comfy and quick distro hopping. I hate writing discs.

>> No.57701494

daily reminder that arch is a bloated and broken piece of crap

>> No.57701500

I installed Arch and created a /boot partition but now (for no reason at all maybe learning a bit) I want to remove it. How does one do that without breaking everything?

>> No.57701513

won't stop me from using it but k

>> No.57701518


so what's the better alternative?

>> No.57701532
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Hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use?

>> No.57701534

not responding to obvious bait

>> No.57701581
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Found the guy who couldn't install arch.

>> No.57701594
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Debian unstable.

>> No.57701618

Windows 10.

>> No.57701622
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The Pajeets are out in full force today.

>> No.57701624

see >>57701518
see >>>/trash/

>> No.57701635

I blame spillover from /v/eddit

>> No.57701640


>> No.57701650

spending a saturday afternoon git bisecting a year old mesa
such is life with GNU/Linux

>> No.57701651

i see your open borders policy has worked out really well

>> No.57701756


>> No.57701762

post your ps1

>> No.57701787
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>> No.57701793

>\[\033]0;\[email protected]\h:\w\007\]\[\033[01;32m\]\[email protected]\h\[\033[01;34m\] \w \$\[\033[00m\]
Guess my distro

>> No.57701843

install gentoo

>> No.57701858
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Im pretty new to linux and im picking stuff up fast but I just can't into ricing.

How did this anon make OS X with default quartz and aqua look not shit?

Should I just lurk more?

>> No.57701870

PS1='C:$(pwd | sed "s:/:\\\\\\\:g")> '

>> No.57701892

May I ask how did you came to a conclusion that a thread dedication to operating system derived from Linux is an appropriate place to ask "how do I rice OSX"?

>> No.57701894

Looks pretty shit tbqh.

>> No.57701903

I tried it. It's fun.

>> No.57701936

Pretty shit, but not what im getting at

Im confused as to how he managed to make a de and a wm with no flexibility look like that.

>> No.57701975

see >>57701892

>> No.57701990

looks like shit
even default settings on some des look better than this crap
try again

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So I'm using Xubuntu and one day I decided to watch anime from my laptop hooked up to my big screen in my living room using an HDMI.

The next day, I log in and after I put my password in, the screen blacks out past the login screen. It clearly thinks that the big screen is still its display I take it. I hooked it back up to the TV and the same result happened.

So how do I unfuck my laptop? The only way to use it now is by logging in via guest. I need my files from my main account. How do I fix the display..?

>> No.57702047

use a better distro next time.
at least you learned something valuable.

>> No.57702054

found your problem

>> No.57702058

found ur problem

try windows key + p

>> No.57702071


>> No.57702090

Guys does anyone has experience with fibre channel scsi targets.
Im trying to setup one in local network but I can't find any specific tutorial for scsi and qla2xxx.
Everywhere iscsi tutorials.

>> No.57702091

What are some of the best, nonbiased tech websites, and some of the best relating to open-source software and linux in general?

>> No.57702117

I personally use the Linux subreddit and my distro's subreddit. Don't let the meanies here discourage you from using the site. Just ignore them.

>> No.57702126


>> No.57702160

hackernews, also open source sucks

>> No.57702177


>> No.57702222

normie here, wanna start self-teaching coding, is python a good start or should go with c++
>inb4 kys

>> No.57702241

Thought it was based on linux kernel.

Im wrong.

Ill lurk more.

>> No.57702264

Nice digits.

First off, one thing your should know: The only good programming language is C. That's all you need to know. Python has a low learning curve but is also slow and bloated.

>> No.57702265

If I want to start messing around with the volume of individual channels of an audio stream in a video file, should I use a gui video editor or could this be accomplished in command line?

>> No.57702269

Depends on what you wanna do.
If you're interested in programming avoid Python.
C++ is fine if you're interested in programming.

>> No.57702287

This. Also I would like to add that Python isn't really a programming language.

>> No.57702365

It actually is. Even BASH is. Everything that passes the turing test is a programming language.

>> No.57702398

you're confusing turing test with turing completness, but yeah

>> No.57702440
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what's the best gnu program out there?

>> No.57702442

Is it a good idea to use perl or python instead of shell scripts? After going a bit deeper into POSIX compatibility and the horrors of never knowing if something works on the other system, I'm thinking about to drop shell scripts.

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easy one

>> No.57702497

I'm trying to install linux alongside windows 10 but every time I boot up the live cd my cursor is invisible. There's a cursor however it is stuck in the top left corner I'm able to click things but i can't see what I'm clicking. I've now had this issue with both Antergos 64 bit live iso and Xubuntu 64 bit live iso. I just want to go back to Linux but this is driving me fucking crazy. I've tried removing and reconnecting but still nothin. I can almost make it through the setup with an invisible cursor but it's pretty tricky. Any ideas

>> No.57702554

its becoming shittier by the year

>> No.57702675


>> No.57702705

Press cntrl alt F1 and issue startx

>> No.57702706
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can someone give me a brief into to bsd
i'm so fucking sick of every single distro being completely fucking worthless and there's no way i'm going back to windows

>> No.57702739

Consider all the bad things you found in each distro. Then cram it together and you get *BSD

>> No.57702776

Is the lad who was struggling with dual booting arch and windows and getting wifi working here?
Did you figure it out?

>> No.57702819

it's almost 2017 and arch has a better installer than debian
what a topsy turvy world we're living in

>> No.57702893

>Daily reminder that a programming language thats easily accessible encroaches on my delusions of elitism.
Dude, I bet you program in java and somehow justify the black man banging your girlfriend by saying you manipulated the two into doing so.

>> No.57702934

>a python """"""programmer"""""" uses meaningless words like elitism to justify his retardation and inability to accept that what he does isn't programming
feels shit to be you
>in java
theres no such thing.
>black man
there aren't any negroes in my country

>> No.57703035

He's baiting, don't reply

>> No.57703068

>waaah anyone who disagrees with me and presents the truth is baiting!!!
sure thing, kiddo
stay delusional.

>> No.57703077

ok kid

>> No.57703088

sure thing, "bro"

>> No.57703091
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HTML Programmer reporting in

>> No.57703098

What editor do you recommend for programming in python?

>> No.57703125

HTML is a Markup language, it's name even suggests that

>> No.57703132

any you fancy. vim or emacs, gedit if you like that.

>> No.57703152

>and somehow justify the black man banging your girlfriend by saying you manipulated the two into doing so.
There was a guy in /vg/'s wow guild who genuinely believed this was the case

>> No.57703206

does a GNU/Linux system make a better server OS, in comparison to a *BSD? i was thinking that the jails & more consistant code of the BSDs would make it better, but i've been hearing otherwise in reguards to ports & third party software. someone mind filling me in?

>> No.57703213

Changing system preferences modifies a preferences file and instantly applies those settings.
If I modify the preferences file by hand, I have to kill the process using those settings before they're applied. Using the UI doesn't do this.
How can I get those preferences to reload, without killing the process, manually?

>> No.57703253

Shell script is a legit program.
It's a set of instructions you input into a machine so it can perform an expected task.

>> No.57703290

If the author of the software did not anticipate and put a command that reloads the configuration file of the software the only way to reload it is to restart the software.

You'd think that's basic logic wouldn't you.

>> No.57703317

Wouldn't following that same line of logic imply that using a browser to check facebook would also be programming. You'd just be issuing a set of instructions for the computer to perform a given task.

>> No.57703373

Programming is a process that leads from the formulation of a problem you want to solve to creating an executable program.

Writing a shell script to solve a problem fits this definition and results in an executable shell script.

Using a browser to check facebook does not fit the definition.

>> No.57703439

Really wish you autistic faggots would stop responding to this programming troll and stay on topic.

>> No.57703447

But you haven't created an executable. The executable is the python interpreter, it's the same binary file before you made your python script as it is after. The binary code is no differet, and you haven't created any new binary code.

>> No.57703483


>> No.57703492

>Programming is a process that leads from the formulation of a problem you want to solve to creating an executable program

So using REPL would not be programming under your definition, correct?

>> No.57703510

>But you haven't created an executable
The word executable in this context was an adjective not a noun friend.


>> No.57703537

You would not be making an executable script.

>> No.57703562

>using a browser to check facebook would also be programming
Actually yes. A human is intelligent and intelligence is the result of many different causalities, which is a form of programming, even if chaotic.

>> No.57703632

hey /g/, what is the best music player

>> No.57703652


>> No.57703657

hey /g/, what is the best colour

>> No.57703684


anyone who says something else is licherally retarded

>> No.57703715

Guys, check out this cuck. Instead of controling the program, the program controls him, KEK

>> No.57703742


>> No.57703748

1/10 bait

>> No.57703753

What makes portage better than pacman? Pacman seems better in most ways.
>Easier to write/modify pkgbuilds than ebuilds
>more packages on AUR than Gentoo has
Anyone who says elsewhise is licherally retarted.

mpd and ncmpcpp or cmus or mpv

>> No.57703778

communist's colour, so red

>> No.57703799

I have mpd and mpc installed, but I actually don't use anymore. mpv is simply quicker. Some aliases for shuffle and customized output for tags - perfect. That shit can even play my old .mod tracker tunes.

The only thing mpv lacks is an easy way to get the current title for my bar.

>> No.57703831

USE flags

>> No.57703849

But you would.

Whatever you typed in before pressing "Return" in an interactive shell was a script. A script you execute by pressing return. Therefore an executable script. No?

>> No.57703861

Sounds good

>> No.57703881

how does linux live without bsd jails

>> No.57703913

why are so many linuxers anal about windows botnets but install skype, flash and use google
i don't understand

>> No.57703946

there's different levels of botnet
windows is top level botnet, sees absolutely everything
googleness is slightly less botnet, doesnt see everything
but most of the time people like that dont use google/skype etc

>> No.57703953

its a just meme, bro! its just a meme!

>> No.57703971
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I like this guy.

>> No.57703982
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>why are so many linuxers anal about windows botnets
Group of people number one.

>but install skype, flash and use google
Group of people number two.

It boggles my mind that there are people that you could have enough mental capacity to find your way onto this site yet still struggle to grasp the concept that different people with common interest may value things in their life differently.

>> No.57703985

Hypocrisy comes in many forms. They don't see what they're doing, nor do they see that it nullifies their attempt to get out of the "botnet"

>> No.57703998

I personally know people who fit op's description. They hate Microsoft, install Linux, but then use ask their services and Google.

>> No.57704029

Does using a car with internal combustion engine eliminates the possibility of you hating on Kike oil corps?

>> No.57704068

There are people who switch because freedom
There are people who switch because it's cool
There are people who switch because it's better
There are people who switch because of more than one reason
Put them all together and you have /fglt/

>> No.57704095

i run gentoo and use google services. i'm basically a normie who wacks off to mmd's too much in google's view

>> No.57704166

and what are the advantages of python over c++?

>> No.57704201

nevermind a quick google search did it

>> No.57704205

dumbphone master race
uninstalled a while ago, don't miss it, 99% of sites are html5 now anyway
here I really struggled, took a while to let it go
I'm using searx now and I'm completly happy, only when reverse image searching I open my buttcheeks for the nsa ;_;

>> No.57704218

searx always gave me irrelevent crap. startpage or duckduckgo is my go-to

>> No.57704235

I disabled all other search engines except google and get basically the same results

>> No.57704355

Windows is a huge surveillence machine. Even when people use Skype or Google, it's still better to be only 10% spyied on than 100%.

>> No.57704385
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the arch install went fine, but i am unable to boot into the system
i googled it and tried like 15 different things and none of them worked (including chroot stuff)
could anyone help me out?

>> No.57704398

installing arch but my pc turned off because power outage halfway through installation

While I wait for this blackout to end... How fucked am I?

>> No.57704406

If you already finished setting up the base system and you were in the middle of downloading packages not much.

>> No.57704413

>the arch install went fine, but i am unable to boot into the system
That's normal.
>installing arch but my pc turned off
That's normal.

>> No.57704414

just reinstall it. thats always the advice i give. you may have messed up the instructions somewhere. itll just take you longer to try and fix this problem

t. gentoo user

>> No.57704427

No it was a blackout my entire house has had no electricity for 15 minutes. Just my fucking luck.

>> No.57704432

you should be fine, depending on where it cut off. worse case you have to start from the beginning

>> No.57704441

this is starting to feel like it isn't worth it

>> No.57704450

>gentoo user
>reinstall system

youre not using fedora or ubuntu?

>> No.57704462

Seems your home feels uncomfortable with installing Arch Linux. Listen to it.

>> No.57704484

its not. install ubuntu gnome and get a feel for linux, then try out more 'complicated' distros. thats what i did at least

i have ubuntu and gentoo partitions. when it comes to weird issues its infinitely to start from the beginning and follow instructions to the tee

>> No.57704492

Then it probably isn't worth it for you.
Took me like 3 tries to install Gentoo and I never felt like it wasn't worth it. I learned a ton, and now my system never gets in my way at all.

>> No.57704495

Can someone explain what's so good about Arch that everyone wants to use it? Not trolling.

>> No.57704522

the fact that it isn't debian
that's literally enough to sell me on it

>> No.57704524

its good for people who want to be minimal. minimalism is kind of a meme, but if you like only having things you need then arch is for you. + people like the AUR (where people can host custom software easily)

>> No.57704529


>> No.57704539

Do any of you guys have any suggested daily organizer type programs? Preferably something that'd just be present on the desktop screen when outside of any other programs.

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>> No.57704568

while most distros have barebones installs and complete distibutions, arch only has a barebones install, doesn't make it more minimal

aur is just a git wrapper, basically
you can rice literally every distro
dank memes

>> No.57704642

Herd mentality. Cool guys use what other cool guys use, eg. Arch, i3, zsh, powerline, solarized, etc (how do I remove systemd)

>> No.57704662

what's wrong with being a pretty cool guy?

>> No.57704665

using arch is like using a pen and paper to write a uni essay instead of computer. It's old and shoddy but you know there's very little that can go wrong to a physical essay. And to some feels more comfortable because they can write whatever and however they like. And even change the paper or pen.

>> No.57704684

thats why i said minimalism is a meme my friends

it has that illusion to it, and thats why people like it

>> No.57704690

copy pasting tastes is gay

>> No.57704707

So your problem with Arch is that it's popular LOL it's popular for a reason

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I recently switched to Linux and I'm going to stick with it. I have a question for all you programmers... what's the best environment to use for Python 3 development?

I've been told that emacs is the way to go. I don't know emacs well (I know enough to edit files) so I'm interested how to actually set it up to have Python REPL working with emacs. Any hints?

Also, if not emacs, then what do you use?


>> No.57704732

popularity != quality
see: Linux Mint

>> No.57704750

>see: Linux Mint
There's absolutely nothing wrong with Mint.


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I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>> No.57704763

Terminal with vi

>> No.57704770


this seems like a good enough guide. starts off with some basics of emacs to get you acquainted

>> No.57704776

read http://www.techrepublic.com/article/why-the-linux-mint-hack-is-an-indicator-of-a-larger-problem/

>> No.57704793

Come back when Mint devs stop blocking security updates in order to keep it "stable".

>> No.57704849

Holy crap, that's some epic butthurt right here. He's literally crying.

>> No.57704859

someone remind me again why people use mint

>> No.57704903

its for people who want to be contrarian and not use ubuntu, but at the same time want to be the same as everyone else

>> No.57704904
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FUD, FUD, butthurt

All you autists are just mad that LM is successful.

>someone remind me again why people use mint
Because everything just works. It's the only distro that you can install and not having to spend hours trying to fix shit.

Stay mad!

>> No.57704923

Thank you!

>> No.57704933

>just works
worst buzzword 2016

>> No.57704956

but it doesn't anon
try installing mdm
post results

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>> No.57704980

debian stable

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>> No.57705015

Newfags ITT

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greetings on this fine day 4chan users.

Gnome users, identify yourselves.

>> No.57705103

they are a new user i dont want them to get swindled into using sid or anything.

>> No.57705208

just don't turn this into a desktop thread

>> No.57705293

Could anybody please share the Debian CD pepe?

>> No.57705305

>be a human being
>try to boot a linucks live cd
>monitor out of range/frequency
>spend days googling the problem
>find that others have the same problem
>submit bug reports on nouveau website
>told to run commands in linucks command line
>mfw i cant even boot into linucks to type these commands for them
>mfw i have no face
>still using windows

>> No.57705354
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Microsoft is part of NSA's mass surveillance program "PRISM":

Microsoft informs the NSA about bugs before fixing them:

Microsoft openly offeres cloud data to support PRISM:

Microsoft has backdoored its disk encryption:

Windows snoops on the users' files, text input, voice input,
location, contacts, calendar records and web browsing history,
even after related settings are turned off:

Micrcrosoft automatically downloads Windows 10 on PCs running
Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 (between 3.5GB and 6GB), even if
users have not opted-in:

Windows 10 scans for illegal/pirated software:

Microsoft proudly presents surveillance statistics:

> Over 82 billion photos viewed.
> Gamers spent over 4 billion hours playing PC games.
> 44.5 billion minutes/month spent in Microsoft Edge.
> Over 2.5 billion questions asked of Cortana since launch.
> Windows 10 now active on over 200 million devices

While you may think that
"if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear"
bulk surveillance damages the very foundation of the democracy
that you believe in.

If you value your freedom, try a different free distribution such as Trisquel GNU linux or Debian. If those don't work, stop using the computer.

>> No.57705413 [DELETED] 

Hi i am installing arch onto a usb and have used rufus. now when i cdisk i see 2 partitions already created.

sdb1 797m bootable type: empty
sdb2 40m type:EFI (FAT-12/16/32)
freepsace 15G

do i delete those 2 partitions and create new, or do i create new with the remaining 15G. cfdisk will not let me make new since start and end sectors are off.

sdb1 start:0 end: 1632255
sdb2 start:172 end:82091

further when i do try to delete and create new, i get the error can mkfs already mounted.

does rufus create the partitions and mount?

>> No.57705456

hi rms, i would really like to use linux but untill nouveau fixes this bug with my particular gpu, i cant do anything.
>give me convenience or give me death

>> No.57705489

Hi i am installing arch onto a usb and have used rufus. now when i cdisk i see 2 partitions already created.

sdb1 797m bootable type: empty
sdb2 40m type:EFI (FAT-12/16/32)
freepsace 15G

do i delete those 2 partitions and create new, or do i create new with the remaining 15G. cfdisk will not let me make new since start and end sectors are off.

sdb1 start:0 end: 1632255
sdb2 start:172 end:82091

further when i do try to delete and create new, i get the error can mkfs already mounted.

does rufus create the partitions and mount?

>> No.57705717

I just set up an sshd.socket daemon and can connect to it from a different device on my network, however whenever I open a persistent ssh terminal with ssh [email protected] I get this issue where everything in my terminal will repeat after I type it, kind of like this "mmmkmmkkdmmkkddimmkkddiirr". I hit enter and it is just registered as mkdir but it keep repeating what I type. I can try to make a video with ffmpeg if needed, but so far ive been working around it by committing solo actions at a time but it really is inconvenient... I am using zsh and arch, openssh.

>> No.57705721
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If Arch is meant to be simple, why doesn't it have a simple installer?

>> No.57705840

because it isn't meant to be simple
it's a meme, everything about arch is a meme
here some goodies:

>Arch has always been a simple distribution in terms of the developer
>perspective, not the user one.


>It has never been a minimalist distribution. Splitting packages is rare
>compared to other distributions, and dependencies aren't made optional
>whenever possible.


>It has always used significantly more disk space and a
>measurable amount of additional memory than Debian and especially Gentoo
>as a consequence of keeping things simple (again, from a development


>You can claim that the community is based on a set of principles, but it
>has nothing to do with technical decisions by the developers. Memes
>about minimalism and user freedom != actual distribution policy /
>principles / history.

more redpills:

>> No.57705871

>he couldn't install arch

>> No.57705896


>> No.57705904
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WIthout using a firefox addon, show me being able to make the top of your browser like this

>> No.57705941

Learn css, install stylish, live the dream.

>> No.57705946

>window decorations
stay pleb

>> No.57705974

>you will never find the perfect default font
Hi one death please

>> No.57705980

You can't you faggot because your window manager draws the window decorations around the browser for you not Firefox

>> No.57706012

I do that in WIndows 7 though, no mods whatsoever

>> No.57706029

so any archfags around?

>> No.57706031

>does rufus create the partitions and mount?

>> No.57706081

>I do that in WIndows 7 though, no mods whatsoever
How's that relevant again?

>> No.57706084

ty m8

>> No.57706094


>> No.57706105

that I can do it and you can't, lol

>> No.57706125

Terminus for everything.

>> No.57706126

that's all?


>> No.57706128

You didn't do it, it came like that by default

>> No.57706142
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yeah and i can do this and you can't

>> No.57706151

notepadqq like a sane man

>> No.57706178
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mines better

>> No.57706193

So, I'm still searching for a solution for my clipboard problem. I've been reading a lot of stuff regarding X11's different clipboard and ownerships. It seems to be like this:

When you open a program, the program takes ownership about your clipboard, if you copy something, the content is owned by the program, when the program exits, the clipboard content is lost.

Now, how to fix this? Is there any way to get around of this problem without installing a clipboard manager?

>> No.57706194

your close/minimize/maximize buttons don't fit your theme. How is that better?

>> No.57706213

>Flat application theme
>Except for the gradient window action buttons
Whatever makes you feel better

>> No.57706215

how2do this in xfwm4?

>> No.57706218
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>window controls

>> No.57706237

win7 fag whatchu got some free hobo linux wanabe windows

>> No.57706279

> Clipman — A clipboard manager for Xfce. It keeps the clipboard contents around while it is usually lost when you close an application. It is able to handle text and images, and has a feature to execute actions on specific text selections by matching them against regular expressions.

> http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-clipman-plugin |

>> No.57706302

Anything without DE dependencies?

>> No.57706318

>current year
>can't even clipboard

>> No.57706322
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see >>57706142

>> No.57706325


>> No.57706338
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read: >>57704759

>> No.57706350

am i missing the fact that the newb is connected unsecure? or the fact that every linux fag out there still wants to use windows programs kek

>> No.57706356


>> No.57706363

see >>57706338

>> No.57706366

Call me when Windows has a clipboard manager and not just basic copy/cut/paste functionality

>> No.57706374

fuck that hobbo, tell that nigger to get a real job

>> No.57706379

I really love the look of KDE sadly it's alot of bloat :(
Currently using i3

>> No.57706384

I think you missed the window controls when you started theming your firefox to look more like on linux

>> No.57706392

see >>57706398

>> No.57706398

use kde + i3

>> No.57706399

>if you copy something, the content is owned by the program, when the program exits, the clipboard content is lost.
Just tested it. Your claim is false

>> No.57706409


r u a time traveler?

>> No.57706421

actually he has a real job

>occupation President of the Free Software Foundation


>> No.57706423

what the fuck man

>> No.57706440


>> No.57706462


maybe you are using a distro with a clipboard manager installed, or you're using a program that doesn't actually quit when you close it but stays dormant

You need a program called a 'clipboard manager', there are several to choose from.

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>> No.57706481

it was a gag m8

>> No.57706484
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yeah here he is hard at work m8

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>> No.57706498

I tested with mousepad on Xubuntu

>> No.57706500
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see: >>57706499
also checkem

>> No.57706515
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>off by one

>> No.57706534

at least dubs

>> No.57706544




>> No.57706551

Call autism help line

>> No.57706565


>> No.57706570
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>> No.57706586

thank you my friend

>> No.57706622
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Just grap the collection: http://imgur.com/a/EHK9Z

>> No.57706632
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>> No.57706666
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I use Chromium. WTF causes this? I've only seen this type of rendering error only on 4chan.

>> No.57706671

i appreciate your contribution to my life

>> No.57706678

Reset your CSS

>> No.57706684

>Reset your CSS
How, anon?

>> No.57706720


it is the mark of the beast

satan has autism

>> No.57706730

I mean
1. Delete your cookies on 4chan
2. If you are using 4chanx or anything just reset to default

>> No.57706734
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>> No.57706754
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I have this RARE item, which is NOT in the collection yet. DO NOT STEAL

>> No.57706786

please contribute here: >>>/wg/6767536
(lots of new stuff btw)

>> No.57706815
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>> No.57706874

padded pals

>> No.57706881
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>> No.57706894

>he fell for the zsh meme

>> No.57706946
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>1. Delete your cookies on 4chan
>2. If you are using 4chanx or anything just reset to default
deleted cookies
deleted local storage
don't use 4chanx
still get this shit :(

>> No.57707031

Hello my frnds
Is it possible to setup postfix/sendmail on laptop?
I installed sendmail but shit is not sending mails at all. It doesn't show any error, but emails are not getting delivered.
What should i do?
cry a lot?

btw, im using Arch

>> No.57707054

What started it?

>> No.57707066

cache faggot, cache

>> No.57707138

use webmail

>> No.57707163

Nope, i need to use postfix/sendmail
I need it for php function, in test is specified to use php mail().
I used postfix in past and everything worked fine, but it was on server.
Probably problem is in my laptop

>> No.57707177

What program would allow indexing of specified locations?
Like mlocate but not for the system.
Would be used mainly for finding media files.

>> No.57707204


>> No.57707229


>> No.57707279

tell me why a shell needs a tetris game
zsh is bloated crap for macfags

>> No.57707297

The fuck, zsh can tetris?!

>> No.57707319

autoload -U tetris
zle -N tetris
bindkey ^T tetris


>> No.57707391 [DELETED] 

zsh wasn't made by a nigger

>> No.57707394

I'm thinking about trying out openSUSE because I want to try all the different KDE-centric distros.

I'm given to understand one of the biggest OOTB differences from, say, a *buntu is the exclusion of certain basic codecs. Is there a good guide online to getting all of these set up? I'm talking just a list of things to get via the terminal, something like that.

>> No.57707403

>zsh is bloated crap for macfags
My 2 cent:
-> OS X ships bad and outdated software (such as stone-one bash)
-> OS X fags don't know much about computers, they can install and uninstall, so they install a different shell
-> OS X fags install zsh, praise it because it has cool colored PS1's
-> OS X fags shill zsh, make it a cult, collect funny aliases
-> oh-my-zsh is born
-> random linux/unix newfag bloggers discover mactards shilling zsh, write blogs why zsh is better
-> the first gnu/linux users fall for the zsh meme
and here we go

>> No.57707415

try gentoo
it's really good for a non-bloated kde

>> No.57707421


>> No.57707432

My 2 cent:
-> people see that bash was made by a nigger and want to replace it
-> zsh is pretty popular compared to everything else so they install it
and here we go

>> No.57707436

you're a fucking idiot. I've been using linux for a decade and ALWAYS use zsh for my default shell. it has nothing to do with Mac.

>> No.57707447

see >>57704759

>> No.57707453

it's kinda alarming that you know so much about macs
i've been using zsh for years and i've never heard of this
maybe your a homosexual mac user yourself?

>> No.57707460

why? because you have seen it at some random guys screenfetch?

>> No.57707468

you're a retard

>> No.57707483

look at >>57707468

>> No.57707495

>why? because you have seen it at some random guys screenfetch?
no, because of the scripting and usability features. zsh developers always paid attention to small details and always kept adding usability features while Bash devs only cared about scripting and backwards compatibility.

>> No.57707500

don't know about him but when i learned that bash was created by a negro male i immediately switched to zsh

>> No.57707509
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Quit renaming projects which you didn't create.

>> No.57707515

>t. maori nigger

>> No.57707516

tell me some zsh-only features please which aren't bloat or available via bash

>> No.57707546

Yep, Tetris is exactly what I'm missing when using a shell.

>> No.57707548

Hipster syndrome

>> No.57707582


tl;dr: autocompletion

there's many, many, many other advantages over bash. feel free to research them on your own.

>> No.57707587

sorry, i'm white as fuck.

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>> No.57707611

>feel free to research them on your own
just say when you can't provide anything :^)

>> No.57707616

He didn't rename Linux. He is acknowledging it

>> No.57707622

"""deep""" quote. why not the image with voltaire? would suit your kind a lot better
i was being completely serious though.

>> No.57707631

>mom make my shell autocomplete cause I'm too dumb to do so

>> No.57707637

why do you bother shitposting then?

>He didn't rename Linux. He is acknowledging it
Then acknowledge that proper name is Linux/Systemd/GNU.

And I can run Linux just fine without GNU.

>> No.57707639

Whatever lets you sleep at night, subhuman inbred maori nigger

>> No.57707642

Systemd is GNU

>> No.57707657

>And I can run Linux just fine without GNU.
Yeah I know you are using windows

>> No.57707658
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unless you want to rewrite Bash to support proper Globbing, you'll never have the power of Zsh in Bash.

But keep on spewing bullshit about how Zsh has something to do with Macs (TOP KEK on that one!).

>> No.57707665

not an argument, nobody is claiming that the kernel should be called gnu/linux

>> No.57707667

>le power of zsh
Spoken like a true mactoddler

>> No.57707681

Been out of the loop for a while. What's the current meme distro? Last time it was Arch.

>> No.57707684

New thread: >>57707668

>> No.57707688

I'm not any of those things. I'm purely white with no signs of inbreeding since i'm not an island fuck like yourself

>> No.57707694

>not an argument
But it is true though. You are using windows and Linux kernel runs in windows thanks to coLinux.

GNU/Linux implies that you are using desktop Linux based distros - it draws a distinctive line

>> No.57707697

>Yeah I know you are using windows
there are core utils that are not GNU. and there's even a Linux distro without GNU.

>> No.57707710

oh, it's that mentally ill dude. saw your posts in archive. so your ban expired or you rebooted your modem? kek

>> No.57707714

>not an inbred
LOL maori nigger on damage control
Who knew

>> No.57707721

But that's wrong you fucking faggot.
There is no linux in Windows, the systemcalls which would go to linux are converted so nt can understand it. The only part of GNU/Linux that is in Windows is GNU.

>> No.57707736

lel mactoddler thinks there's only one anon that calls them toddlers

>> No.57707752

so you're not even of br*tish ancestry
it's a lot worse than i thought huh...
i'm mixed by the way. swiss german and austrian german

>> No.57707778

>There is no linux in Windows
Stopped reading right there. What is windows 10?

>> No.57707783

>i'm mixed by the way
Yeah you are full on maori, nigger

>> No.57707809

I don't think it's even possible considering my family has never been to kiwiland
are there many maori niggers in the general area of austria, south g*rmany and switzerland?

>> No.57707823

lel, other thread 404'd, someone create a new one

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>> No.57707885

i-i don't understand

>> No.57708007

write a c compiler b4 u talk

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Was your picture made with GNU and free programs? It says Photoshop in the metadata.

>> No.57708434

metadata is stripped by 4chan, newfag

>> No.57708549
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>falling for such an easy bait
Who's the newfag now?

>> No.57708594

>I just pretended to be retarded, lelellel

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> attempting to reverse retard after being caught being a retard
Pic related

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Hi, so im still on this arch to USB install... well ended up using YUMI and am noob lost... usually i follow the instructions on the wiki, but i guess yumi does more than i am aware of.

Partitions are created and mounted and just ran the pacman -Syu... which begs the question where am i on the arch install according to their wiki?


anyone please direct me to where i need to continue or pick up at?

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