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/bsd/ - *BSD General Thread
Discuss FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, DragonFlyBSD...

Hit up the IRC: #baot on irc.rizon.net

News sites: http://dragonflydigest.com - http://undeadly.org

OpenBSD edition
>No Jails
>No ZFS
>No MAC
Without un-audited, unofficial ports you get:
>No deluge (WTF?)
>No Pitvi
>No simplescreenrecorder
>No qbittorrent (WTF?)
>No clonezilla
>No open broadcaster studio
>No opera
>No icecat/iceweasel
>NO GPARTED (wtf?!) or any graphical partition manager that people use
>No WINE
>No Clamentine
>Wayland? Lmao your guess
>No Vuze
>No Chatzilla
>No eye-of-GNOME/MATE
>No Krita (WTF?)
>No Pinta (WFT?)
>No FreeCAD
>No LibreCAD
>No QCAD
>No Amrok (Default KDE Music player)
>No GNOME Phone Manager (phone connectivity)
>No KDE connect (phone connectivity)
>No Openshot
>No Shortcut
>No Kazam
>No FFCast
>No Kodi (WTF?!)
>No udisks to automount external drives
>No engrampa or peazip (for zip files)
>No Bleachbit
>No Screenfetch or inxi
>No CPU-G (Linux version of CPU-Z)
>No Knotes/Gournal for note taking
>No RStudio for statistics

UPDATE: While using BSD you got two options:
1. Stay secure by not using ports and sacrifice software availability
2. Install software and render your system vulnerable to exploits and mitigation crashes

Ask for softwares, get autism

>> No.56379761
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56379761

here's my bsd laptop screen (you can see it in the background and the laptop itself too)

>> No.56379833

>>56379761
>laptop screen
>External monitor

>> No.56379864

>>56379833
*screen connected to bsd laptop

>> No.56379887

>1. Stay secure by not using ports and sacrifice software availability
>2. Install software and render your system vulnerable to exploits and mitigation crashes
So I'm no expert on anything, but from what I can surmise is most BSD users are paranoid schizo's?

>> No.56379918

>>56379887
OpenBSD people are freetard BSD users. They got rid of all proprietary drivers and even Linux compatibility layer.

It's a little bit more than paranoid

>> No.56380175

>>56379887
I can't tell if it's actually that troll guy again but there are mitigations that are enabled system wide in OpenBSD that prevent misbehaving applications from causing damage regardless of where they come from. If your application crashes due to these mitigations then it's doing something it shouldn't be and OpenBSD is preventing damage.

>> No.56380897

>>56379286
>REEE STOP SHILLING BSD ON /g/!
>proceeds to make thread

>> No.56381101

>>56379286
>bitches about BSD threads
>makes BSD threads
Just noticed you used my post again too, kek

>> No.56381128

>>56379918
Proprietary drivers are a genuine scourge. No one gave a fuck about the Linux layer, so it was unmaintained, and that's why it got removed.

>> No.56381399

>>56379286
6.0 is out today! Should be cool.

>unaudited ports
This is a nonissue, right? OpenBSD audits the source tree of the base system. You can also port other software written for GNU/Linux to OpenBSD, using the ports system. If these external software packages are unaudited in OpenBSD, they're unaudited everywhere.

So I mean, okay maybe it's an issue, but
>I don't like that some of the software is unaudited so I'm going to stay here where all software is unaudited
doesn't make any sense.

Am I misunderstanding this?

>> No.56381476

>>56381399
this is probably the guy who keeps shitting on BSD ports while he uses arch and the aur, dude

>> No.56381488

>>56381399
You're basically correct. Except with OpenBSD there are mitigations integrated into the system to protect the OS and applications from being affected by malicious software.

>> No.56381499
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56381499

is this the new desktop thread?

>> No.56381509

>>56381499
Quit using my trip as a name, you fucking shitposter

>> No.56381524 [DELETED] 

>>56381509
please don't pretend to be me

>> No.56381534

>>56381524
Fuck off

>> No.56381551 [DELETED] 

>>56381534
reported for language

>> No.56381556

>>56381551
Go ahead, submitting false reports is against the rules, you piece of shit.

>> No.56381563 [DELETED] 

#56381556
shut up you loser imposter

>> No.56381570

>>56381534

Why do you use a trip anyway?

>> No.56381572

>>56381563
>using that shitty meme
Eat a dick

>> No.56381588

>>56381570
I haven't in years. Just use it when the shitposter shitposts because it's my trip.

>> No.56381591 [DELETED] 

@56381572
it's my meme now stop pretending to be me & also reported for homophobia

>> No.56381593 [DELETED] 
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56381593

#56381572
ewww, dont talk to me loser

>> No.56381601 [DELETED] 

>>56381591
No it's not.

>>56381593
Eat shit and die, faggot.

>> No.56381606 [DELETED] 

@56381601
i literally invented the meme pls stop trolling with my trip

>> No.56381614

>>56381606
Oh yeah, that explains why you're using it as a name and I'm actually using it as a trip. Just fucking stop already.

>> No.56381617

Sometimes I shit on BSD on /g/ despite not knowing much of anything about it and actually not having any issue with it, I even think openBSD looks really cool, if only really conceptually in my understanding of what it tries to do and how some of its projects are used elsewhere than as something to actually use.

>> No.56381620 [DELETED] 

Chauncey is a dumb name btw
No. 56381614
no trolling in my itt thread please

>> No.56381630 [DELETED] 

>>56381620
I'm not looking for your approval, cockmongler.

>> No.56381638

>no ports, no fun
>>56381620
>>56381630
lmfao

>> No.56381645 [DELETED] 

#56381630
that's Richard to u mister

Jeeves pls search Google for my little boy porn
thanks

>> No.56381647
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56381647

so this is what bsd loser threads threads look like.

looks like im the only bsd user whos not an absolute failure

>> No.56381659

>>56381645
Quit pretending to be me already, you goddamned twat.

>> No.56381668

I replaced OSX with Linux Mint on my Macbook Pro because Apple is going to begin destroying it soon so I buy their new one

It's running well and am happy with it

but is there any place I'm supposed to be downloading drivers especially for the MacBook or is that mostly all automatic?

>> No.56381670
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56381670

also what kind of an idiot names his computer chauncey?

>> No.56381671 [DELETED] 

#56381659
oh yes Winston I'll need more caviar oh wait ur just a crappy pc with a dumb name

>> No.56381688

>>56381670
All of my computers have fancy names. Chauncey, Benson, Winston, etc.

>>56381671
Go fuck a chainsaw sideways.

>> No.56381700 [DELETED] 

#56381688
those arent fancy names those are names some loser would come up with.

>> No.56381716

>>56381647
>k-on figurines
>im the only bsd user whos not a failure
lmafo
>>56381688
dude just take advantage of anonymity and just leave the fucking trip behind

as they say in school... if u don't give the bullies what they want, they give up

>> No.56381720

>>56381700
At least I'm not some fat neckbearded basement dwelling autist pretending to be someone else on a chinese cartoon website.

>> No.56381725

>>56381617
Yeah, I think a lot of us are looking at it from the outside and think it's cool but haven't tried. I'm in about the same place with BSD now as I was with Linux about four years ago.

>> No.56381742

>>56381716
I left the trip behind years ago. Not going to let some shitposting cunt pretend to use it though.

>> No.56381750 [DELETED] 

>>56381720
im pretending to be a nobody so that's the same as being anonymous

did your parents abuse you as a child?

>> No.56381761 [DELETED] 

#56381720
im pretending to be a nobody so that's the same as being anonymous

did your parents abuse you as a child?

>> No.56381766

>>56381750
lol sure thing kid. Go play in the middle of the freeway.

>> No.56381782

>>56381766
for >>56381761

>> No.56381783 [DELETED] 

#56381766
me and your mum played around in your bed

>> No.56381796

>>56381783
You couldn't possibly be more of a child. Off yourself.

>> No.56381810 [DELETED] 

#56381796
shut up loser and dont tell me what to do.

im literally more skilled @ computerwork than you will ever be so you should just leave before u embarrass urself some more

>> No.56381816

>>56381810
How about you just quit shitposting?

>> No.56381832 [DELETED] 

#56381816
i never shitpost

>> No.56381837

>>56381832
That's all you've done this whole thread. It's probably all you ever do.

>> No.56381842

>>56381668
Linux drivers for everything except for (off the top of my head) proprietary graphics blobs and printers are 100% automatic and included with the kernel. If you use Mint I'm already guessing you have your drivers for your graphics.

Have to apologise for your post getting no attention because of some retard neckbeard fuckstick who has never and will never be loved

>> No.56381857 [DELETED] 

#56381837
ummm nah, quality posts all around from me

>> No.56381862

>>56381857
Yeah okay buddy

>> No.56381913

>>56381700
>>56381720
Go away, tripfags.

Your identity isn't important here.

I'm not sure you understand how 4chan is supposed to work.

>> No.56381929

>>56381913
I stopped using my trip years ago dumbass, I'm still not going to let some shitposter pretend to be me.

>> No.56381936 [DELETED] 

>>56381913
>Your identity isn't important here.
says who?

>> No.56381945

>>56381936
Quit pretending to use my trip you goddamned whore.

>> No.56381959

>>56381936
>>56381945
Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!

>> No.56381961

>>56381936
The users of 4chan?

>> No.56381964

>>56381959
See >>56381929
Fucking retard.

>> No.56381974

>>56381961
who are these users specifically?

>> No.56381986

>>56381974
Fuck off, cumguzzler.

>> No.56381989

>>56381974
That's the fucking point of an anonymous imageboard, we don't know.

>> No.56382012

>>56381989
well you not knowing is the same as there being no proof, so i will use my trip until you show me some specific users.

>> No.56382021

>>56382012
Go fuck a screen door, needle dick.

>> No.56382029

>>56382012
I'm a specific user.

>> No.56382040

Would be nice if the mods would just ban the guy already he's been arguing with himself for like half an hour

>> No.56382045

>>56382029
why do you think I care about you.

ill use my trip as much as i want until someone shows me a rule that forbids me from using it

>> No.56382051

>>56382040
Pay attention dumbass. It's a retard pretending to be me and I'm telling him off.

>>56382045
Quit using my trip as a name you fucking shitstain.

>> No.56382062

>>56382051
No one gives a fuck about you or your trip except you.

>> No.56382079

>>56382045
your trip your rules, just saying this is an anonymous imageboard.

>> No.56382094

>>56382062
You're right, I do give a fuck. Which is why I'm telling the fucking faggot to stop pretending to be me.

>>56382079
It's not his trip you retard. Look, there's no exclamation mark and the trip's bold, he's using my trip as a name.

>> No.56382098

>>56382079
>Anonymous imageboard
I can use my trip if I want to

>> No.56382103

>>56382098
It's not your trip you fucking mongoloid. You're not even fucking tripping, you're namefagging, you fucking faggot.

>> No.56382105

>>56382098
your trip is not necessary to contribute to the discussion

>> No.56382116

>>56382105
It's not even a fucking trip, he's just pretending to be me.

>> No.56382119

>>56382105
if i didnt have my trip then how would you know that im competent?

>> No.56382138

>>56382119
You don't have a trip, you twat.

>> No.56382139

>>56382119
I don't really care if you're competent, your trip doesn't assure me that much either.

>> No.56382153

>>56382139
if i have my trip then you can look me up on google or the archive.

>> No.56382154

>>56382139
see >>56382116

>> No.56382163

>>56381964
Why are you so butthurt m8?

Reusing the trip doesn't magically make him stop. Stop cluttering the thread with your bullshit. It's off-topic. We don't know who you are, and we give 0 shits about your retarded trip.

>> No.56382172

>>56382154
see >>56382153

>> No.56382175

>>56382153
>implying i will take my time to double check your trip
no

>> No.56382184

>>56382163
It's my trip and I want it NOW.

>> No.56382189

>>56379286
So back to BSD...

Do any of you have experience using BSD in a production environment? How would you describe it?

>> No.56382201

>>56382163
Because the shitposter's shitposting while pretending to be me.
>Stop cluttering the thread with your bullshit. It's off-topic
So is the thread, it's a fucking troll thread. I wouldn't be doing this if it was a real BSD thread, but it's not so I couldn't give less of a shit.
>we give 0 shits about your retarded trip.
I do, and I'm not going to let him get away with pretending to be me.

>>56382172
Eat shit and die.

>>56382175
It's not a fucking trip.

I can't report the shitposter anymore anyway, I'm out.

>> No.56382211

>>56382189
bsdsux

>> No.56382232

>>56381499
MODS

>> No.56382252

>>56382201
>Because the shitposter's shitposting while pretending to be me.
No one knows who you are, just shut up. You're shitposting and you're making him shitpost or alternatively you're just shitposting as two people.

>> No.56382264

>>56382252
I don't give two shits if anyone knows who I am, the fucking point is that he's pretending to be me and I won't fucking have it.

>> No.56382279

new thread!!!
>>56382269
>>56382269
>>56382269

>> No.56382285

>>56382279
YOU'RE the one pretending to be me faggot.

>> No.56382302

>>56382264
>>56382279
>>56382285
Fuck off, I'm the real PowerPCfag.

>> No.56382310

>>56382264
I don't think anyone can ever hope to be as big a faggot as you, don't worry.

>> No.56382378

>>56382302
Is this the new BSD trip?

>> No.56382380

>>56382279
Holy fuck are you ever a piece of shit

>> No.56382409

>>56382380
I don't think anyone can ever hope to be as big a faggot as you, don't worry.

>> No.56382417

>>56379864
Mac OS X is not a BSD. It is partially based on one, but is not one. Leave the thread.

>> No.56382418

>>56382409
Fuck off

>> No.56382427

>>56382302
I don't give two shits if anyone knows who I am, the fucking point is that he's pretending to be me and I won't fucking have it.

>> No.56382435

>>56382418
All right all right, you can have your stupid tripcode, I'll stop using it.

>> No.56382438

>>56382427
>says the namefag pretending to be a tripfag

>>56382435
Good.

>> No.56382440

>>56382417
this desu senpai

>> No.56382453

>>56382435
I appreciate it. It's about time you stopped pretending to be me.

>> No.56382454

>>56379286
OpenBSD edition
>No Jails
So what?
>No ZFS
So what?
>No MAC
So what?
Without un-audited, unofficial ports you get:
>No deluge (WTF?)
So what?
>No Pitvi
So what?
>No simplescreenrecorder
So what?
>No qbittorrent (WTF?)
So what?
>No clonezilla
So what?
>No open broadcaster studio
So what?
>No opera
So what?
>No icecat/iceweasel
So what?
>NO GPARTED (wtf?!) or any graphical partition manager that people use
So what?
>No WINE
So what?
>No Clamentine
So what?
>Wayland? Lmao your guess
So what?
>No Vuze
So what?
>No Chatzilla
So what?
>No eye-of-GNOME/MATE
So what?
>No Krita (WTF?)
So what?
>No Pinta (WFT?)
So what?
>No FreeCAD
So what?
>No LibreCAD
So what?
>No QCAD
So what?
>No Amrok (Default KDE Music player)
So what?
>No GNOME Phone Manager (phone connectivity)
So what?
>No KDE connect (phone connectivity)
So what?
>No Openshot
So what?
>No Shortcut
So what?
>No Kazam
So what?
>No FFCast
So what?
>No Kodi (WTF?!)
So what?
>No udisks to automount external drives
So what?
>No engrampa or peazip (for zip files)
So what?
>No Bleachbit
So what?
>No Screenfetch or inxi
So what?
>No CPU-G (Linux version of CPU-Z)
So what?
>No Knotes/Gournal for note taking
So what?
>No RStudio for statistics
So what?

>> No.56382563

>>56382417
OS X is Linux with a BSD kernel

>> No.56382596

>>56382563
OSX is BSD utilities with the abortion of a frankenkernel combination of Mach and NEXT.

>> No.56382827

What is the sudo equivalent on FreeBSD? I read you can install the sudo actually, but isn't there a native way to sudoing? Am I supposed to log out and then log in as root and do whatever, and then log out and log in as user again every time?

>> No.56382843

>>56382827
sudo is a third party program in freebsd, yes

used to come with openbsd, then they realized that all people ever used it for was escalating privileges, so they cloned it and made a simpler version of it called doas

>> No.56382862

>>56382827
You can use su (root) if you need root privileges and can trust yourself. If you have to manage a system with many users you'll need to install sudo

>> No.56382899

>>56382862

But this would give me permanent privileges right?

>> No.56382908

>>56382899
not if you type exit right after that

>> No.56383279

Can I install any BSD on a Core2Duo late 2006 iMac? If so, which one?

>> No.56383284

>>56383279
What are the specific specs?

>> No.56383310

>>56383284
3GB RAM, white iMac, Intel Core2Duo (don't remember the frecuency) 160GB HDD, 2 firewire ports.

>> No.56383329

>>56383310
what about the graphics? is it intel?

if it is, chances are it'll run just about any BSD, but don't expect firewire to work on openbsd (from what i heard)

>> No.56383334

>>56383329
It's an old ATI pre-AMD era.

>> No.56383340

>>56383334
ah, that could work too

as long as it's not nvidia

>> No.56383353

>>56383340
Which BSD could be the best?

>> No.56383358

>>56383353
either FreeBSD or OpenBSD

OpenBSD can save you some time, as it comes with Xorg sets. if you do use it, make sure to read the FAQ, the welcome mail and the man pages

>> No.56383416

>>56383358
How different is it from Linux?

>> No.56383428

>>56383416
not too dissimilar, but different enough to confuse some people (and perhaps even anger them) on the first try

>> No.56383442

>>56383334
>>56383310
I think your graphics chipset is probably from the radeon x1000 series.

http://man.openbsd.org/radeon.4

These are all the chipsets that OpenBSD supports, FreeBSD is probably a little further along than that so expect that one to work as well.

You might also want to try some variant of Linux as well.

>> No.56383453

>>56383442
i don't trust that man page, i think they lifted it straight from Xorg without changing it

>> No.56383721

>>56380897
>>56381101
2bh I like freeBSD

>> No.56383746

>>56382454
>OS doesn't work
So what?

>> No.56384606

On freebsd live now. Need to format several hdds for windows first, is there a console equivalent of gparted here?

>> No.56384887

>>56384606
FreeBSD has something called gpart.

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56385127

h h-hello is this the screenfetch thread where i p p-post my walpaper in?

sosrry im new to this internet forum

>> No.56385216

So I upgraded to OpenBSD 6.0 and it said toprump is no longer available or something like that. Is it dead or has it just not been upgraded to 6.0? Can I use the 5.9 version?

>> No.56385231

>>56385127
i want to fug chino

>> No.56385264

>>56381556
stop tripfagging, ya tripfag

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