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Previous Thread: >>53918771

Welcome to /fg/lt/, or as I've recently taken to calling it, /fg+lt/. We are always open to users of all levels, including absolute beginners.

There are four ways to try GNU/Linux, you can:

0) Install a GNU/Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
1) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full GNU/Linux experience".
2) Dual-boot GNU/Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about GNU/Linux)
3) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with GNU/Linux

Before asking, please search for answers to your questions in resources.

Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.

Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe WINE can make up for it.

IRC connection details:
Server: chat.freenode.net:6667 (no SSL, 6697 for SSL)
Channel: #flt
If you don't have an IRC client (which you should), go to https://webchat.freenode.net/ to join the webchat.
Do not tick "auth to services" (as you probably don't have a freenode account), choose a nickname, and type "#flt" as the channel.
Google captcha, click "connect", all that.

man <insert command here>
Your friendly neighborhood search engine (searx.me, ixquick, whatever)
https://wiki.archlinux.org/ (Most of the configurations and troubleshoots will work on various distros, including Debian)

>> No.53925678

Try pinging something, like

ping -c 5 google.com

>> No.53925679

What happens when he dies /flt/?

>> No.53925696

The GPL will remain. And Eben Moglen will take over. Or someone else. Stallman is merely a spiritus rector of the FSF, the day to day business is done by others

>> No.53925702

We continue his legacy.

>> No.53925721
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>Temporary failure in name resolution

I'm fucking crying RN

How the fuck does everything go THIS badly????

>> No.53925746


>> No.53925751

Why'd you fall for the debian stability meme.

>> No.53925753

Obviously Debian stable uses a different system-d version and all than Debian Testing. However, at this point the best thing you can do is raze it all and start anew. If you have any data that needs backing up, back it up somewhere, then reinstall your shit.
And learn from your mistakes.

>> No.53925813

This. Debian is garbage, and I used it for a decade.

>> No.53925815

>>>53925721 (You)
>Why'd you fall for the debian stability meme.

No fucking clue.

Debian Stable was working PERFECTLY. I had no complaints at all. But packages were a little old and some trolls were saying how stable is shit and to use testing/unstable.


>Learn from your mistakes


Jesus Christ.

Is there some way to back up a list of the packages I had so I can get my shit back to normal as soon as possible?

>> No.53925826

Why is everyone trying to do this idiotic "I install Debian stable and then switch all my repos to testing". Is there some popular YouTube video / Gawker article that says: "This is the best shit ever!!! xD".

If you go that route anyways just use Arch or some pre-configured installation of Arch: Antergos or whatever it is called. Then you have your testing packages and it seems to be less error-prone.

>> No.53925830

you guys have a local lug you go to?

been thinking of looking for mine after going to a linux expo and having a blast

>> No.53925831

Debian is server software senpai.

>> No.53925859

It was advice from people in /flt/, ffs.

Then what the hell do I use that isn't a meme?

I don't even understand what went wrong. It just all somehow broke over nothing, honestly I'm confused as to how my Ethernet firmware isn't even working right now.

>> No.53925864

>Then what the hell do I use that isn't a meme?
Everything is some kind of meme. But honestly just use Ubuntu without Unity or Arch. I guess Fedora isn't too bad.

>> No.53925872

Sorry man, I don't mean to make a bad situation worse. If I knew a bit more about Debian I could probably tell you, but it seems like the upgrade of the operating system failed somehow -- some upgrading of packages failed majorly and fucked up your system. I assume this would happen to others attempting this too, so I don't think you are alone in this.

Personally I really like Arch Linux, but it's connected with more setting up at the beginning.

>> No.53925886

Fedora has SELINUX enabled.

Is the NSA living in my PC now?

>> No.53925907


You can read the source included in the kernel if you want.

>> No.53925916

I did that back in the day when I started using Lincucks because I liked to live on the wild side.
Nowadays that I actually have a job, I just use Xubuntu or Ubanto Gnome or most recently Ubuntu Cinnamon.
Just works, has the most software support, you dont have to fear shit breaks unless your computer is too new and there aint drivers out for it yet.
OpenSuSe, Fedora, Ubuntu, PCLinuxOS, Mageia, all good.

>> No.53925917

I just want an explanation as to what happened at least. I don't get it man.

But is it really that easy to fuck up? I was under the impression that I would need some manual input to actually fuck it up this much

Arch seems a little too autistic for me, what other good suggestions are there? Opensuse seems popular desu

>> No.53925944

I guess it would make sense that the NSA would want to make Linux more secure, since they use it for their own computing. Putting a backdoor that could possibly be exploited by black hats or enemy agents would be a bad thing for them too.

>> No.53925947


I was a loyal little Debian cuck all this time, I was enjoying it so much... Then it just all goes to fucking hell.

>> No.53925953

How the fuck do I get Xorg server set up on VirtualBox?
No matter what I do, no matter which drivers I install it or even if I have VB Guest additions installed it always returns error and never allows me to start the X server
Arch Linux first timer here.

>> No.53925960

Fedora is pretty good and up to date, while remaining on a fixed release. Breakage is low while still having pretty new software. They even update the kernel during the release instead of waiting like everyone else does.

>> No.53925968

Debian seems to be this easy to fuck up at least. What happened shouldn't really happen -- you basically just told your system to use newer packages. But the repos are called testing for a reason, so it might be that there was a bad package and your system just vomitted.

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That's assuming they haven't made their own Linux kernel derivative. :^)

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>have a job
I workd 40 hours a week in a shitty retail job,and still manage to do 'pacman -Syyu' once a week

>> No.53925992

Install xorg-server and choose libgl-mesa when it prompts you. After that install linux-headers base-devel and then virtualbox-guest-utils.

Do not enable 3D Acceleration if you plan on using KDE Plasma -- it breaks.

>> No.53926000

What have you installed?
sudo pacman -S xorg-server xorg-xinit

>> No.53926006

I already did all of that, it still breaks.

>> No.53926020

Define break. Are you sure that you installed base-devel and linux-headers FIRST, and then attempted to install virtualbox-guest-utils? Make sure and reinstall virtualbox-guest-utils and virtualbox-guest-dkms.

>> No.53926021

>>53926000 was made for >>53925953.

>> No.53926026

>not having a cronjob set up

what a bunch a cuckoos

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>> No.53926043

>blindly installing packages

>> No.53926057

Yeah I mean, I am all for using yaourt etc. but I still wouldn't blindly run a cronjob that updates all my packages -- that sounds like a recipe for disaster.

>> No.53926060

Debian is good if you know what you are doing. Like: Not upgrading retardedly.

Also there is nothing wrong with any of the *buntus, or Mint. Just use them instead of GNU/Linux: Old and Outdated Version

My job requires me to have working computer 24/7 (I'm a translator). Ubanto LTS fills that need pretty well. My files get rsynced to two separate NAS every hour, and I have a few more thinkpads that serve as backup if my desktop should break somehow so I can access files and go on working.

cronjob for what? breaking your system?

>> No.53926061

yeah that's pretty stupid. that's why i update my installed packages blindly instead.

go back to work wagecuck

>> No.53926071

I'll try that, even though attempting to install linux-headers returns some weird messages but it still installs successfully.

>> No.53926078

So retarded...

I just don't get it. How do people use this shit when it breaks so easily over seemingly nothing?

But how did I do it retardedly?

Please explain for next time guys.

Also I think I'm going to go with Antegros, it looks cool desu

>> No.53926081

God damn disgusting. Why is that derivative even popular.

>> No.53926088

When you reinstall -dkms it should stop for a bit and compile. It should take around 30 seconds to a minute or so -- if that happens, then the thing happened that I wanted to happen. Try the xorg stuff after that.

>> No.53926096

>Also I think I'm going to go with Antegros, it looks cool desu
Imo if you want to use an Arch based distro just use Arch or you're asking for trouble.

>> No.53926100

Because direct installation from AUR. Suggest me something better, and dont fucking link me that Wikipedia page. Tell me what YOU are using and why.

And no I don't want to run wget/curl makepkg -si manually, mam.

>> No.53926128


See table for why, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_helpers#Comparison_table

Don't complain about a wiki link in this case, just look at the table.

>> No.53926129

Tbh I might just reinstall debian stable after backing up my home folder.

It was outdated but worked flawlessly ;-;

I'll just use backports next time I guess.

>> No.53926130

You installed one system and then enabled packages that are marked testing -- UNSTABLE packages. Then you tried to update your whole distribution at once with these unstable packages.

That's what happened, it's just a bad idea. We can't diagnose what exactly went wrong.

>> No.53926146

Alright, thank you. What about bauerbill, did you try that too?

>> No.53926152


You're still installing

>> No.53926157

The funny part is those unstable packages are way older than all the other distros. Debian is just incompetent.

>> No.53926184

Why is Debian such a meme?

>> No.53926199


Dont use it.Xyne likes to take long breaks of not updating anything,and when he comes back,he has to completly do a rewrite of everything

>> No.53926204

You just the major version if a whole bunch of packages, they are all dealing with your old config files and crust. Crying and throwing everything out is a very poor response to this. Figure what is wrong and fix it you fucking user

>> No.53926227

What programs should I test out Ubuntu to see if it works for me?

>> No.53926231

If you are reinstalling just go with testing out unstable. It was likely the upgrade from an old system that broke it.

>> No.53926248

I don't know where to get started, I've never dealt with this before.

Why don't you help me then smartypants?

>> No.53926250

I'm trying to install Wallabag.

Composer works for five-ten minutes and then dies with OOM. I have around 300 MB of RAM free. I mean, really? What for does it need 10x times more ram than the whole project?

>> No.53926262

> did something he doesn't understand
> didn't even try to figure out what went wrong

>> No.53926284

Have you even said what is wrong apart from "it broke"?

>> No.53926290

Can't say I did.

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Just installed Linux Mint on my T520. How do I get wifi working?

I believe I have the correct driver but nothing shows up in the driver manager or in network connections menu.

>> No.53926308

It's in python and probably isn't pacman-like like pacaur is though.

>> No.53926316

Yes I have.

I tried to update to testing and then rebooted and xserver was broken.

Then I tried to purge my graphics driver because I read it on some website and now my Ethernet firmware is somehow broken

>> No.53926320

it should just werk. what card do you have?

>> No.53926321

see >>53926199

>> No.53926322

I think people are not using pacaur because it makes itself unpopular. "Don't use me if you aren't a makepkg guru!" basically -- while yaourt just tells you "Yeah you can use me to install packages from the AUR directly". Also when I attempted to install the AUR version of pacaur I got GPG signature error.

I'll be honest, I don't immediately know what that is about but I might look into it.

>> No.53926325

I bought this laptop when I was younger and stupider:

It actually runs Ubuntu pretty well, but I can't get the fans to run properly and it hangs on the desktop when I call shutdown.

Anyone had similar problems and/or been able to solve them?

>> No.53926334

Noted, thanks love.

>> No.53926348

I can't be fucked to do another Arch install and Antergos fails on boot. What's another good arch-based distro that isn't too autistic?

>> No.53926358

how bad/good its solus? its look really nice but i have no idea on the tech side

>> No.53926360

There is none, since you've already done it you should know installing arch takes 5 minutes tops. Especially since your partitioning is already done.

>> No.53926362

Why are you calling every Arch derivate autistic? Maybe try Manjaro.

>> No.53926382

>Maybe try Manjaro.
And have more issues and come here whining about them?

>> No.53926389

Well I did it before over Ethernet but never successfully over WiFi which is what I have to do now.

I just want to avoid going down the obscure distro rabbit hole without giving up the AUR

>> No.53926392

So apt search radeon for installing graphics drivers. It looks like the xserver module has dropped the hd from the end of the name.

>> No.53926408

when i installed kernel 4.6 rc2 on my desktop pc, it wont shut down the computer all the way, or restart it, when i trigger it through CLI or GUI. It gives a DENIED error message of some sort on the command line, at the end of the normal boot messages. wat?

>> No.53926419

Then use Arch ffs.

>> No.53926429

>installing unstable kernels
yeah... how did you think this was a good idea, expecting a worryfree system?

>> No.53926436

I did that but it's useless for me because my Ethernet won't work.

Any ideas on diagnosing and fixing it? Not sure how it broke.

>> No.53926437

Maybe downgrade the kernel again or simply deal with it. At this stage your filesystem probably won't be corrupted when you forcefully shut it off.

>> No.53926453

What are the actuall error messages? If you are still interested in fixing it. There will probably be some info in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log about missing modules or some crap. And for the firmware try searching apt for the nic manufacturer and install firmware-<manufacture> and maybe firmware-linux-nonfree

>> No.53926463

Use arch like the cuck yo uare or install a real man's workstation distro.

>> No.53926467

Uhh. Idk. I just ran lspci -vq but I don't see anything that says wifi card.

>> No.53926470

Why don't you use antegeos?

It's better then manjaro. It's just arch with an installer that makes no sense not to be automated.

>> No.53926482

Is How Linux Works by Brian Ward a good book to read?

>> No.53926483

Antergos is more than just an installer wrapper, that's architect.

>> No.53926486

huh, that shows mine on my t420.

>> No.53926497

On boot it said I'm missing module microcode from modules.dep

But the problem is now I have no internet connectivity. How fix it, familia?

>> No.53926520

In what way? It uses Arch repos, etc

>> No.53926543

I tried it today and it just errors out after installing.

>> No.53926550

It errors out -- well that is helpful.

>> No.53926557

Dunno about that module, or if required.

Run ip link and see if eth0 is listed there. If so you do have firmware and just need to set your network up. If not you need to grab the .deb from eg packages.debian.org via some other method and install with dpkg -i

>> No.53926581

>Antergos started life under the name of Cinnarch, combining the Cinnamon desktop with the Arch Linux distribution, but the project has moved on from its original goals and now offers a choice of several desktops, including: KDE, GNOME 3 (default), MATE, Cinnamon, Openbox and Xfce.

>> No.53926607

Yes and?

So it's arch basically with easier installation and setup.

>> No.53926621

Thanks bro. I really do want to fix this I just didnt know where to start so I needed a familia to help me.

>> No.53926653

It tells me there may be a boot loader installer problem after the installation finishes. Then after rebooting, it just gives me a blank CLI

>> No.53926673

Eth0 is listed.

But it is not werk

>> No.53926743

Well you probably have network manager or whatever new systemd hawtness installed and I don't know about them. But try sudo ip link set eth0 up and sudo dhclient -v eth0 and see what that spits out at you.

>> No.53926748

Why are debianfags such flamboyant SJWs?


>> No.53926800

Werkes now.

Ok now what for the problem at hand?

>> No.53926849

I opened xorg.0.log

I see it says fglrx module not found, no drivers available and no screens found

>> No.53926858

What does /var/log/Xorg.0.log complain about?

>> No.53926872


But when I try to install fglrx it says the package is not available BUT is referred yo by another package.

>> No.53926890

FGLRX is no longe rbeing developed, besides it was shit anyway and inferior to the free drivers.

>> No.53926919

Then wut do? It worked much better for me than the free memedrivers.

It's what that log file complains about, anyway.

And I'm guessing I need to somehow fix the reference to it

>> No.53926940

i know that feeling.

had it awhile back but nuked the server.

after i tried to set it up again, didn't manage to get it done. i'll try again and see if it works then.

>> No.53926972

Make sure you have the non-free and contrib components (along side main) installed in /etc/apt/sources.list and run apt update then apt install linux-headers-`uname -r` fglrx-driver

>> No.53927037

Package fglrx-driver is not available but is referred to by an other package.

This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted or is only available from another source.

E: Package fglrx-driver has no installation candidate

>> No.53927052

because they majored in computer information systems, which requires no real skill or intelligence

>> No.53927071

can't you just apt search it?

why are you just pasting this shit on your terminal

>> No.53927107

What do you mean? It's not letting me install it.

>> No.53927177

i'm saying search for the fucking term and get the right name so your fucking machine can fucking install it instead of it saying X is not available.

but chances are you did it wrong and didn't even add the 'non-free' to your repos. do a cat /etc/apt/sources.list

>> No.53927180

You need to open up /etc/apt/sources.list and add contrib and non-free on the line that starts with deb and ends with main then apt update.

>> No.53927212

Nope I have those added.

I did apt search but it says (none) under it, not sure what that means.

>> No.53927262

Oh my bad, mine was pointing to an old snapshot repo. Err, don't really know about non nvidia stuff but https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo says to apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-video-ati then reboot *shrugs*

>> No.53927294

I already have those...

>> No.53927305

odviously there should be a i at the end of that code block for *-ati

>> No.53927329

Well then your /etc/X11/xorg.conf is wrong and still pointing to the old fglrx drivers. Try ... renaming it and see if Xorg can autodetect

>> No.53927378

Ok did that, no dice desu.

>> No.53927390

I'm taking a TestOut course teaching Linux for beginners and decided to record their videos for later use. When I'm done, would they be useful for these generals?

>> No.53927421

Earlier I had friends over and we watched movies on my computer, so I unplugged my headset and plugged in my speakers. Now when I go to plug my headphones in, the sound works, but the microphone isn't capturing anything.

What am I doing wrong?

Arch, Cinnamon and Alsa aren't reporting anything wrong and the microphone was working earlier today, so I doubt it's a hardware problem, what do?

>> No.53927433

Where are you going to post them?

>> No.53927478

Please reply... What is the next step

>> No.53927488

YouTube channel is off limits, I know for a fact it'll go down harder than a sack of rocks. DropBox also may be taken down. MEGA? Though people don't like to download videos anymore right? Any suggestions where I can upload them to, without much worry about them being taken down any time soon?

>> No.53927526

You're hopeless, just install ubuntu.

>> No.53927538

;-; don't give up on me family

>> No.53927545

Is it still giving the same error about no fglrx driver? Because I don't know why it would be looking for that except from xorg.conf

>> No.53927547

I'd definitely be interested in taking a look at these if and when you provide them. I don't think MegaUpload is exactly out of the question, but who knows?

>> No.53927561

Also, I meant Mega.nz, not MegaUpload.

>> No.53927656

Yep. Same shit.

This time though it's saying the same thing but with xserver-xorg-video-ati which I changed it to.

>> No.53927685

I meant rename the whole file, as in move it away, so that it isn't there when Xorg starts up and it has to figure shit out on its own. Also the driver isn't called xserver-... that package apparantly install the right one for you. Maybe radeon?

>> No.53927735

Now it's complaining it's not matching the config file(I deleted it)

>> No.53927774

Why can't I play something with an audio on two things at the same time on arch. For example I can't have sound from two different videos on two different browser tabs, or play from URL on mpv and watch video from browser. With Windows I can watch and have sound on all videos simultaneously.

>> No.53927817

if you using arch then you should easily be able to find a solution for this.

>> No.53927835

What's not matching the config file? What is the actual error message?

>> No.53927839


>> No.53927842

This happens if you are not using pulse and alsa is pointing at the hardware device with dmix...

>> No.53927853

lol no, that's in not the answer
Alsa can do it perfectly well with that shite.

>> No.53927860

I've tried twice now to reinstall Xubuntu and start fresh, and yet both times have preserved my original installation. Both times I've specifically directed the installer to format the space where the old root partition is, and it it doesn't seem to work. (I always double check it's just that partition and I'm not formatting what is to remain /home.) What's going on here? (The second time I fucked up grub and sda4, the root partition, is now sda6, so that's cool I guess.)

(I'm dual-booting on this computer, and wish to keep all that the same.)

>> No.53928139

A whole ton of shit and basically says it's not matching the config file(paraphrased).

Missing shit like vesa, and some other junk too.

>> No.53928165

Is it possible to start a service only once, after boot is finished/on login? I normally just enable services using systemd but that slows things down a lot when your init hangs on that one service starting.

>> No.53928212

I'm not exactly sure how to myself, but I'm pretty sure some services do start at boot and then commit sudoku as soon as they're done with whatever.

>> No.53928322

okay I just installed ubuntu what now?

>> No.53928333

No, that's not how it works. You have to ask a question that can be answered, like, "I want to do X, how do I do it?".

>> No.53928380


You mean other than 'systemctl enable $service'?

>> No.53928385

Give me 5 reasons NOT to install Antegros.

>> No.53928387

why does my ubuntu gnome have so much trouble with jewtube videos? everything is unresponsive, framerates are trash, and fullscreening is a death sentence. wat do?

>> No.53928397

Yep. That will run it during init, so when you have a service that takes some 20 seconds to start you hang right before you're dropped into a login shell waiting for the service to start.

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okay, what sort of things did you enjoy learning to do and helped your general experience with using computers that you were only able to do with linux?

>> No.53928399

what video card/video card drivers are you using?

>> No.53928417

Should I give up on this shit or does anyone still want to bear with me?

>> No.53928427

what's the best torrent program?

I used qbittorent on jewndows.

>> No.53928465


I have an R9 280 and I'm using the fglrx-updates driver. The open source driver was having the same issues, possibly more so.

>> No.53928468


>> No.53928486

Fucks sake man, not paraphrased. Do you think I have seen every possible error message and can figure out what they say from vague references? I'm not a magician. run nc termbin.com 9999 < /var/log/Xorg.0.log and post the output of that.

>> No.53928504

ubungu 16.04 when?

>> No.53928511

Ok so basically in the log file everything seems to go well then LoadModule: fbdev fails, same with vesa,

Then screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section

Anyone got a clue?

>> No.53928533

I tried installing kubuntu. Big mistake. Settings don't save (global shortcuts, account login password request), display settings keep getting reset randomly, applications keep opening on secondary monitor, and wine graphics are broken while the window is on the primary screen.
And this is just the first day of use. I should not have betrayed our Lord and Savior xubuntu.
16.04 when? If I install the development version now can I switch back to stable once released?

>> No.53928595

At login, most shells execute a login script, which you can use to execute your custom script. The login script the shell executes depends, of course, upon the shell:

bash: .bash_profile, .bash_login, .profile (for backwards compabitibility)
sh: .profile
tcsh and csh: .login
zsh: .zshrc

You can probably find out what shell you're using by doing

echo $SHELL

from the prompt.

>5 seconds of search engine

>> No.53928604



It's long AF

>> No.53928635

That's not even close to what I meant, your shell rc gets sourced _every_ login instance of it. I figured it out though.

>> No.53928638

Ok so that is basically saying there is no working driver. What video card do you have? Maybe someone has the same or similar and can tell you what setup is required, because I have only dealt with nvidia before. (Also try sudo modprobe radeon)

>> No.53928653

Ati 5770

Modprobe radeon made my native resolution but then I wrote startx and it's frozen and I need to reboot.

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So I'm ready to remove Windows and install Linux, but there are so many Linuxes.

I hope /flt/ can help me: What it the BEST linux?

>> No.53928709

> Modprobe radeon made my native resolution
You meen the tty resized? I guess that means the driver works.
> it's frozen and I need to reboot
Well the xorg log should still be there after you reboot and could give you some insight

>> No.53928714

Transmission and Deluge are easy and effective with fancy web-gui. rTorrent is good but it lacks my convenience whoring drag-and-drop magnet link capabilities

try libgl1-mesa-dri and xserver-xorg-video-ati
This is what worked with debian, I see the same packages exist in ubongo repos so i'd say its worth a try

>> No.53928718
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I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're proclaiming to be Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free piece of a fully working GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and essential system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>> No.53928725

They're all the same except their package manager and what they come prepackaged with nigga.

I like Arch though.

>> No.53928738


>> No.53928758

Yes the tty resized.

The new log is even more FUCKED than the previous. Do you want to see it?

Whatever you do... DO NOT INSTALL DEBIAN.


>> No.53928784

>Whatever you do... DO NOT INSTALL DEBIAN.
lmfao, I mean I wouldn't have recommended it either but your bad experience cos u fucked up isn't a reason to act this way

>> No.53928787

>The new log is even more FUCKED than the previous. Do you want to see it?
Sure, why not.

>> No.53928797

Whatever you do... DO NOT INSTALL ARCH LINUX.


>> No.53928801

there are many things wrong with mint

>> No.53928811

For a new user, fucking your shit up beyond any recognition Just by trying to upgrade to packages not from the 90's is a ****bit***** of a dealbreaker.

>> No.53928815

Whatever you do... DO NOT INSTALL OPEN SUSE.


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The one I'm using.

>> No.53928843

Does Mint even have a reason to exist next to "not using Unity"?

>> No.53928863

There are many distros existing without any reason/not filling any missing gap, like, basically everything RH ever released.

>> No.53928873

Ok termbin.com/qt2q

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Grsec kernel is ok but can lead into complications with various programs.

I am using Linux-zen atm.

>> No.53928885

I have an important question!

People say it's recommended to use not the default Ubuntu, but other *buntus since they aren not Canonicalbuntus. But they all get the same stufff from the same Canonical sources, so what's the whole point, except not using Unity?

>> No.53928887

>tfw using linux-vfio

>> No.53928889

Should I wait for 16.04?

>> No.53928906
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>What it the BEST linux?
The best Linux is GNU Linux-libre.

>> No.53928907

Ubuntu is nice if you hate learning and freedom
Mint - ubuntu with a better DE
Debian is the only major distro that seems to care about free software
Arch is nice for AUR porting every program ever over and a robust wiki
Gentoo if you're a CS major I guess
Fedora is a good workstation
CentOS is for servers.
openSUSE - see fedora
slackware - I don't know. someone with experience please tell me.
Contribute more memes to this list

I use Arch on my laptop and CentOS on my server. Best = best for circumstances. No objectively best exists.

>> No.53928918

I-is antegros any good

>> No.53928921

>>Fedora is a good workstation
>implying you can't install libre office and offer shit on literally every other disto
>implying fedora has any value
literally the same shit in green

>> No.53928924

How is it so far?
Zen somehow feels faster here, have no idea why

>> No.53928930

I just use it for muh passthrough.

>> No.53928934

Pretty good listing anon. Agree do everything (except fedora being useful).

>> No.53928945

root distros + ubuntu only desu

>> No.53928960

Any idea fampai?

I read through it but it makes no sense.

Really close to giving up but we've put so much effort into this...

>> No.53928964

HAHAHA You're right thats fucked. Segfault on in input device, wireless headset added as multitouch keyboard and mouse? What kind of sweet future tech do you have! I didn't see any errors there actually relating to graphics, try unplugging all you shit apart from keyboard and mouse and trying modprobe radeon and startx again. If shit freezes up try switching to a different vt (ctl+alt+F2) and see if you still get a login prompt, just to confirm that it is just a userspace problem.

>> No.53928966

IDK man, it's always somehow broken ootb with cinnamon and KDE plasma

>> No.53928969

Yeah desu I don't understand Fedeora's place exactly. I mean I'm SORT of new so I don't have all the distros down yet but it's just kind of ...been there, but no one seems to ever say what it does that's special over something else.

>> No.53928973

Why are there people out there, who think it's a good idea to use Fedora?

>> No.53928984

Tbh I've NEVER had a good experience with any DE except xfce

>> No.53928989

Tried mate? I haven't I'm curious.

>> No.53929002

fair enough, it seemed like an option for those who would like to be familiar with RHEL environment that has updated packages. Quite a few companies use RHEL, Its not necessarily a bad idea to learn if you were to work in a sysadmin or IT position in the near future.
That is literally the only reason you would want to use it, though.

>> No.53929012

Ok I unplugged headset thing

It froze again.

Jesus Christ all over testing packages...

>> No.53929024

>Quite a few companies use RHEL
That's a wrong measure of actual quality.

There are, for example, many companies who buy Helvetica fonts, just becaue they think "expensive = must be good".

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Holy shit.

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Why did canonical do this?
Was it not possible to install Bash in wangblows earlier?

Enjoy more security vulnerabilities not that Bash is in wangblows

>> No.53929041

Time to migrate to zsh

>> No.53929046

>not using the many companies use Windows argument

>> No.53929055

Basically Canonical has nothing to do with Bash since Bash is a GNU utility. It's just PR.

ayy, implying we don't have enough zsh users who don't even know how to configure a PS1.

>> No.53929057

No I haven't.

KDE was an epic fail for me. On several machines randomly plasma just breaks, I look for help from devs on forums, they just say "try xyz, if it doesn't work idk bye". None of it worked lol

>> No.53929064

Should I wait for 16.04 or just go with 15.10?

>> No.53929065

Oh of course, companies use RHEL because of the 'full stack' buzzwords, technical support, and how far they are up Cisco's butt. It's a prepackaged product to implement specific things quickly. There are server variants and a desktop edition to 'seamlessly integrate'.
None of those are reasons for individuals to use it. I hope you can see why businesses would use it, however.

>> No.53929066

>zsh does nothing more than configure PS1

>> No.53929070

Ok are we calling it quits on this or you got anymore ideas?

>> No.53929076

KDE is just windows with source code. It's fucked.

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>> No.53929095

Looks nice but maaan does it randomly fuck up.

>> No.53929099

Only the ones who haven't figured out that poo goes in loo

>> No.53929100

You're all wrong. The programs I'm using are only right way to use GNU/Linux in general.

>> No.53929108

>Looks nice

>> No.53929111

What programs?

>> No.53929112

I once created a bootable linux usb drive with dd, to then discover that it didn't dd to the USB..

>> No.53929121

The best programs ofc.

>> No.53929125

What are "the best programs"?

>> No.53929132

I, too, use the best programs.

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if I want to have a bottom panel (in MATE) and also want to keep plank on the bottom, how do I make plank sit on top of the panel and not at the bottom of the screen, clashing with the panel?

>> No.53929138

>he fell for the "use stretch" meme
It's not stretch it's testing btw
You should have expected this to happen.
Let this be a lesson to you to either use jessie-backports or live with your older (although stabler) packages.

>> No.53929161

Is Antegros from cucks or not?

>> No.53929178

Honestly just use Windows 10 with Linux subsystem, best of both world desu

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>use arch and Ubuntu regularly (both MATE)
>Pamac and pacman/yaourt is a godsend compared to synaptic and aptitude/apt
>AUR is fucking divine
>app development is still Ubuntu centric; updates to Mate and other tools like Mate-Tweak actually are released on Ubuntu before Arch
>Many features working in Ubuntu Mate natively dont work in Arch (such as the Marco-Compton option in Mate-Tweak, Plank Config not launching if no config file is manually made prior, certain programs not registering in the programs list and won't launch through synapse

literally what le fug. I want to drop Ubuntu and Canonical and go full freedom fries but the support Ubuntu gets makes it just werk
Most arch users will tell you it is because it essentially packages an arch installer with a bunch of bloat but it does work and it actually is arch

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>> No.53929208

just use whatever. what's with the preoccupation with what others think?

all the distros are all basically the same anyway.

>> No.53929221

What bloat though? Doesn't it just automate installation desu? Doesn't seem unreasonable and it BTFOs manjaro

>> No.53929224

Dude put some effort into it on your end. You have the logs and google. Look for any errors in the xorg log, dmesg, syslog, google for those errors and/or symptoms. You have havn't looked into what actualy froze up, are the other vtys still functional. Sit and think for a while instead of just jumping on the first copy/paste opportunity you see. You must be a terrible problem solver.

in that old log there is AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/r600_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/r600_dri.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_tls_Dispatch)
Do you have a file '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so'? If not mayb try installing libgl1-mesa-dev:amd64

>> No.53929236

>somehow these gnufags manage to break their system without knowing how

should try and actually break mine and see how it goes. still don't get how they manage to do it

>> No.53929245

It's better than manjaro for sure. It forces you to pick a DE and installs a whole lot of other shit as well though. I mean you can always uninstall it afterwards but, ugh.

>> No.53929253

it comes with a lot, like Ubuntu-tier, of preinstalled applications.
the real "it's just an arch installer" is architect

I like antergos for its simplicity and functionality and for the fact that they have a lot of useful packages in their repository. Its not perfect though

>> No.53929279

Ok I installed that desu, startx still freezes.

The other vtys are functional, yes.

There's some more aiglx errors, gonna try to resolve them too desu

>> No.53929321

>their repository

>> No.53929343

Yeah nah. Googling this shit isn't really helping either since I'm first of all not sure what to look for exscrlu and then when I do they have some other issue only slightly related but different solution...

>> No.53929349

well yeah, they literally run an independent repository. on arch you normally have
and with antergos you have
but you're probably going to yell at me for something anyway

>> No.53929353

>implying there's not a net install of manjaro

>> No.53929370

Manjaro holds back updates

>> No.53929381

So uh, I've been running into 2 issues randomly on my antergos install recently.
Didn't happen with a pacman -Syu or any other updates, just randomly started happening.
On an x230t with the i5. DE is xfce with compton.

First issue: After locking the screen (lightdm), sometimes, when unlocking, the mouse pointer is invisible (Still works, just invisible). I can workaround by going to a terminal login (ctrlalt f1) then switching back to my session (ctrlalt f7) . Makes it reappear again.

Other issue: In mpv, and only mpv, I suddenly started experiencing heavy stuttering - as in, frame plays, previous frame plays, next frame plays, previous frame plays, and so on.
VLC works flawlessly, but I'd prefer to use mpv.

Any idea what the issues are?
I'm clueless as I didn't update or install anything and it all worked great before.

>> No.53929382

Oh? I was under the impression they used arch repos. That's even worse.

>> No.53929383

yeah for stability

>> No.53929402

I forgot to mention, the mpv stuttering only happens in full screen. Windowed it plays fine.

>> No.53929404

Let me have a look at the latest xorg log then. Also is there anything interested in syslog after xorg freeze? Could maybe also be your xinitrc or something if you have one of them hanging around from stable.

>> No.53929405

Currently have CentOS and Lubuntu dual booted on my ThinkPad. Interested in playing around with Gentoo.

Is it just a matter of installing it using minimal install/Hybrid ISO, then downloading stage 3?

How do I do this without wiping my current MBR? Just not play with the MBR in my install and then run an update on grub later?

Just concerned that it may be quite easy to wipe everything in the install, not that anything would be lost.

>> No.53929408

>Causes more problems for people than antegros by far

>Holds back SECURITY updates

>> No.53929433

>spends time backporting SECURITY updates to ancient packages left to die by upstream developers.

>> No.53929445

I powered off. Going to sleep. I'll try one last time tomorrow with newly recouped strength, if not then I'll just reinstall.

One thing I don't get is that it was saying some shit about the driver files, as you said. Which belong to libgl1-mesa but I have it installed already... Up to date

>> No.53929449

>I forgot to mention, the mpv stuttering only happens in full screen. Windowed it plays fine.
That's weird. mpv doesn't take exclusive mode or anything, it's just a bigger window really.

>> No.53929455

What do you like more about pacman than aptitude?

>> No.53929459

Oh right, try killing compton and seeing if it goes away. I have had stutter issues caused by compton before, I don't run it any more. Happened to me regardless of fullscreen though.

>> No.53929469

I personally assume the culprit is either xfce or compton.
Oh, i remember - I DID install compiz-fusion for ccsm before that happened, to try to resolve the disappearing mouse cursor

>> No.53929471

good distro for the pi zero?

managed to finally snag one, and now just waiting for it to ship.

>> No.53929480

Get out of here with those memes man, if you have nothing to hide there isn't anything to fear

>> No.53929491

Is debian actually bad for desktops?

I hear its server software, but i want to be running a home server, a dns server and a desktop environment. Is debian the right choice?

>> No.53929535

hmm, do you use anything else to prevent tearing then? I can't deal with the tearing that xfce normally has

>> No.53929542

I fix it with nvidia drivers in my xorg config.

>> No.53929549

>tfw using intel graphics
can I do that shit too?

>> No.53929560

First verify compton is the issue.

Er maybe? I can't tell you, I can give you the information about fixing it with nvidia but it will NOT work for you. Might set you on the right path.

Read both these:

>> No.53929564

I use it on my work laptop.
It's okay for work, no problems.
It is a very good work distro, love it.
But I could never use Debian on my home desktop, at home I want to new and fun packages.

>> No.53929578

yup, pkill compton fixed it.

>> No.53929581

That is a dns problem senpai

See how far a traceroute gets or try dig -c IN -t ANY +short google.com

If the traceroute fails it is a routing issue , most likely your local network/ISP

If it fails to resolve try a different dns resolver and if that also fails then it is definitely a routing issue.

>> No.53929587

though weirdly, if I restart it, it still works.

>> No.53929608

Main think im looking for is resource efficiency. I dont want my computer using a lot of energy since its on most of the time

>> No.53929635

Yeah, I know what you mean. Compton seems to have a leak and start to lag over time.

>> No.53929676

Last time I tried to install xubuntu alongside with w10 it didn't work, didn't give me the option to choose what to boot

I just followed the install menu. What did I do wrong? I would like to try again

>> No.53929782

You should get rid of Windows 10. Seriously.

>> No.53929797

To fix your problem you need to install a wind turbine, battery pack and a DC TO AC converter.
Then your computer can use as much energy as you want, unless you don't have any wind.

>> No.53929890

Well that was the plan, slowly adapting to Linux, while having w10 for stuff I can't do in Linux yet

That's why I'm asking the question

>> No.53930014

I'm part happy I don't have a modern EFI machine that has to deal with this shit, part sad I can't confidently help people like you due to having next-to-no experience with it.

It's not difficult, though, I know that much but I can see how it would trip people up. Assuming the Xubuntu installer is similar-to/same-as the standard Ubuntu installer (which I reckon it should be) then https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI should help you get things going without issue.

>> No.53930143

I do wonder what desktop environment provides the best out-of-the-box experience. Reasonably, whatever this is should be the default recommendation unless one is sure the referral is willing to mess with stuff post-install.

It's not the oft-recommended Xfce, what with screen tearing and all.
It's not my personal choice of Gnome, with its - ah, how to put it mildly - questionable defaults.
It's probably not KDE what with people constantly clamouring over it being buggy as hell.
Maybe I'm wrong, with my own experience of it being very limited, but I doubt it's LXDE. It felt rather lacking.
I suspect the answer is Cinnamon even though I really don't like it myself. It evidently caters to people used to Windows which isn't inherently a bad thing. Just makes me feel queasy.
Mate? Budgie? What about Enlightenment?

Remember that it's not about your own preference, people. Out-of-the-box experience with the average user in mind.

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>> No.53930265

False, Debian stable is a pretty good desktop distro, probably the best. But it doesn't work if you have attention-deficit disorder and you think having constant updates that can break your workflow with newly introduced bugs (i.e. you're NEET) is a good thing.

>> No.53930331

>just realized i can hotkey super+[5,6,7,8] to super+shift+[1,2,3,4]
life changing how didn't i think of this earlier revelations general

>> No.53930355

I'd agree with Mint Cinnamon honestly, it just werks without being a complete overhaul for the new user (Gnome3, Unity)
Xfce has retarded shit like not having super bound to opening the menu by default and just.. feels dated I duno

>> No.53930381

I bought my sister a 200€ laptop with a celeron N3050, she doesn't need it for anything more than web browsing and it doesn't come with an OS so I'll be throwing some linux flavour there.
I haven't been distrohopping for years myself as I have been good with Fedora on my desktop and Arch on my laptop for the past 4 years.

What's a decent lightweight distro I should throw on her laptop?

>> No.53930496

when I open tetris with M- x tetris I cant close it
how the fuck do I close this fucking game how do I even close anything

>> No.53930510

Oh and now C- x k is working the fuck is wrong with emacs

>> No.53930562

>it just werks without being a complete overhaul for the new user
I've thought a lot like this, that it's important to keep to an experience that is similar to what the user is used to, but I also wonder if that's not doing them a disservice. People don't seem to have a lot of trouble switching from Windows to OS X which is a lot different, so maybe we're giving them less credit than they're due? On the other hand, perhaps the notion that everything Apple is easy to use and "just works" is so settled in the collective mindset that a user is more likely to stick around until they grow used to it, lest they brand themselves as unable to use something "objectively better".

I'm just speculating, obviously. Could be I'm way off the mark on all counts; I won't pretend to understand how people tick.

>> No.53930571

Everything is wrong with fucking emacs.

>> No.53930615

But what else I thought emacs would be best 100% free editor the fuck tetris please dont start tetris dont M- x tetris

>> No.53930621

I mean, it's free, but it's not the best. vim is the best editor.

>> No.53930635

I'll check out vim later hope I dont get confused when I want to switch back to emacs
or rather IF

>> No.53930643

The keybinds might weird you out at first. Run I advise running vimtutor.

>> No.53930663

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as GNU/Linux, is in fact, linux-libre/GNU, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, linux-libre + GNU. GNU is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component slapped onto a fork of the useful Linux kernel, called linux-libre. The GNU project didn't manage to finish a working kernel replacement for Linux, which they tried with HURD after 20 years of developement. Many computer users run a modified version of the Linux kernel every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of Linux, which is widely used today is often called "GNU/Linux", and many its users are not aware that it is basically the Linux kernel, developed by volunteers all over the world, maybe with a few userland packages added. There really is a GNU, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. GNU is a collection of a few packages.

>> No.53930670

Don't worry, you won't get confused. Vim has tetris too.


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>> No.53930724

What is the difference between ubuntu/kubuntu/debian if you use KDE as the manager on all three?

Like it'll look the same and packages will install the same?

>> No.53930726

I might cry

>> No.53930757

ubuntus use ubuntu repo
debian uses debian repo

>> No.53930773


Ok but what does that mean in terms of difference? Will programs be different in terms of features/versions will there be more packages for some and not others?

>> No.53930779

Hi Ubuntu friends!

Is there a way to get cgred service working on xubuntu 15.10. To my surprise there is no such a service in regular repos.

>> No.53930783

4chan is 18+, please leave.

>> No.53930788

yeah ubuntu repos are a bit more up to date depending on the release you have.

but they all get the important stuff, security updates.

>> No.53930814

>Hi Ubuntu friends!
I feel insulted.

>> No.53930832
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>> No.53930838

fucking tetris

>> No.53930850

Tetris is a shit game. Srsly. Fuck tetris.

>> No.53930863


Even snake is better than fucking tetris,

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>> No.53930913

So I wiped Windows from my system but my volume control is gone. For some reason I can't add it to the panel. Any help?

>> No.53930926

Is there a way to make the area near the window borders where the cursor resizes them larger in Xubuntu? I like my mouse to move pretty fast but being pixel-perfect to resize windows is hard with that mouse speed.

>> No.53930930

from what little i gleamed off your post, you wiped windows and volume control is gone.

could you be any more vague? would help for you to do that.

>> No.53930933
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Fucking snake fucking tetris

>> No.53930946

Sorry. Installed Lubuntu (its a slow laptop) and the panel taskbar thingy at the bottom lacks a volume control button and it cannot be added for some reason

>> No.53930978

from a quick ddg search.

>I figured it out. The panel menu was confusing me a little... I thought the Panel Applets tab was showing me what was available to add--but it's showing what's already on the panel..

>Just to remind me (or anyone in the future that might have the same question:

>Right-click panel
>Add/Remove Panel Items
>Panel Applets Tab
>Click on "Add"
>Select available plugin

was from 09, so might or might not work anymore.

>> No.53931016

I tried that, apparently doesn't want to add it.

>> No.53931097

install gentoo

>> No.53931110

Hey guys anyone care to help with a small problem?

Recently got an additional monitor, and now the right border shadow of a fullscreen window on left screen is visible on right screen.
Anyone know how to fix? Thanks

>> No.53931139

Raises eyebrows ... not sure if that would be a good thing

>> No.53931159

Eh, wha..?
As it is the tip of the pointer needs to be EXACTLY on the window edge, I just want a 2-3 pixel margin in which that works.

>> No.53931291

Can't you just set your window manager to resize on alt+right click?

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>> No.53931432

I'm trying to test out a reverse SSH tunnel on a local connection.

At first I got Connection Refused. Opened the SSH port on the router, now the connection just times out.

I'm using this command to open up the tunnel:
ssh -fNR 5000:localhost:22 [email protected]

What have I missed?

>> No.53931476

Why -R? Isn't tunnel -L?

>> No.53931483

Ignore, I'm retarded, you said reverse.

>> No.53931485

Just because you don't have any thing to say it doesn't mean you for need your freedom of speech
get out

>> No.53931695

So, I've got a CentOS install. Being a Xubuntu babby, yum is a mysterious and irritating layer of voodoo magic. I'm trying to install some other packages, but for some reason I'm getting a dependency error for a package I tried installing earlier and gave up trying to install. How can I clear this issue so I can get back to installing stuff?

>> No.53931782

/g/ halp

how to fix alsa

ALSA lib pcm_direct.c:1685:(snd1_pcm_direct_parse_open_conf) The field ipc_gid must be a valid group (create group audio)
connect(2) call to /dev/shm/jack-1000/default/jack_0 failed (err=No such file or directory)
attempt to connect to server failed

i added and removed some groups - audio video disk storage optical and a few more
now systemd

>> No.53931825


>sudo su

You w0t m8?

>> No.53931850


Nigga, with Intel graphics all you need is the TearFree option turned on. Look up how to do that. There's no need to run a compositor just for screen tearing.

>> No.53931889

Did your partitions change? Maybe you don't see the difference because of the config files in /home.

>> No.53931924

holy shit brochacho, you're the master.

>> No.53932355

it might have something to do with udev

>> No.53932412

Your user needs to be in the audio and possibly realtime groups, I think just audio though.

For this second link the stuff after the kernel config is probably the parts relevant to you.

>> No.53932608
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GNU/Thread: >>53932581

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>> No.53932738

Are you blind?

>> No.53932745

why stallman so sad?

>> No.53932755

People still use windows and even linux users still use cancerous things.

>> No.53932788

Please elaborate?

>> No.53932804

You're posting in a dead thread, already on page 10.

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Was the first thread up at the time, had it open all day. I'll take my shit to the new thread then, thanks.

>> No.53932829

On some systems, root has no password. This means that you can't become root through standard mean.

>> No.53932848

like systemd? :^)

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not if i can help it

>> No.53932911

litreally impossible

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