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I need you expertise /g/

Just built a PC yesterday and it wouldnt boot into Bios or give any signal to the monitor. So i did some testing but couldnt find anything wrong, untill i took out the processor.

As you can see, something's not right. It looks as if 2 pins are missing, my roomate thought it looked like the connectors between the two pins were gone, but the pins were still there.

Could this be what's causing my error?

>> No.40590885

Yup. You fucked the socket. All gone, and warranties usually don't cover that.

>> No.40590895

>>40590885
The motherboard supports the socket

>> No.40590910

ya blew it

>> No.40590914

>>40590895

What?

>> No.40590921

>>40590865
The motherboard is fucked. Claim on RMA thats how you got the motherboard and hope they give you a replacement. Usually these kind of cases they blame you for the bent pins.

>> No.40590923

>>40590895
yes, and? You destroyed the pins in the socket. It's dead. And the manual specifically says 'it's fragile, do not fuck it up, warranty doesn't cover that'.

>> No.40590951

>>40590921
>Claim on RMA thats how you got the motherboard and hope they give you a replacement.

This is literally your only recourse outside of buying a new motherboard.

>> No.40590964

Thanks for pointing it out.

I know better than to shove my dick into the CPU port, so the motherboard must have arrived like this from the factory.

I feel optimistic about getting a new one for free.

>> No.40590967

>>40590885
>>40590921
>>40590923
At least the pins aren't on the processor. Motherboards tend to be cheaper than processors.

>> No.40590982

>>40590964
Which is very unlikely. They will just blame you for it. Good luck convincing them otherwise.

>> No.40591036

>>40590865

God, I hate new CPU sockets so fucking much. With pins on the CPU, you have to be a drunk, incompetent monkey to bend them and even if one does get bent you can just bend it back carefully. With pins on the socket, they bend and snap if you just look at them a little funny.

I've heard one of the reasons for switching is how on CPUs with pins you can yank the CPU out by accident when removing the heatsink, but I don't see why they didn't just add a clamping mechanism like they have now to hold in the CPU. There was absolutely no need to change the pin design just for that.

>> No.40591055

>>40590967

Processor pins are so much easier to fix and get bent much less often.

>> No.40591071

>>40591055
If you're not being a monkey they happen equally as often ( read: 0 times ).

>> No.40591072

>>40590982
Naw, I've convinced ASUS they sent me a fucked socket. Of course, it helped that they actually did send me a fucked socket. Pulled the protective cap off and 'wtf?'

>> No.40591084

>>40591072
So you saw there was something wrong with the socket, then proceeded to shove your processor onto it hoping that those pins didn't send power? You may have fucked your processor too bro.

>> No.40591088

>>40590921
>>40590923
>>40590982
What the fuck are you niggers talking about? I've RMA'd so much shit that I bought on Newegg and never had any problems even when it was my fault.

>> No.40591142

>>40591084
Never thought about it, that could be true.

What are the odds of this happening?

>> No.40591157

>>40591071

Motherboard pins are WAY more fragile and have a shitty bending/compressing design that lends itself to breaking or bending far too easily.

CPU pins are rigid structures and their sockets have a built-in system for guiding the pins to remain straight.

The only time I've seen CPU pins bend is when people drop the CPU onto a hard surface, and then it's only one or two and they just bend them back into place and move on. But I've actually seen motherboard pins snap after perfectly legitimate and correct installations, probably due to some tiny imperfection on one of the pins that you can't notice until after it fails to compress properly and snaps.

>> No.40591172

>>40591142
Fairly high, actually. If the pin that was bent provided power, and the ones it's next to do not, then that's where you'll run into a problem. You might have lucked out where that cluster is ground, or the board shut off before damage happened to the processor, but it's something to look out for.

>> No.40591218

>>40591157
it's much harder to store / transport cpus with pins... not to mention CPU's cost twice as much as the motherboard these days.

>> No.40591242
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40591242

>>40591142

The odds are about 162 in 1156

>> No.40591253 [DELETED] 

>>40591242
Actually, it looks pretty high. If this diagram is orientated like the picture ( notice the keying ) then the bent pin is either VCC or VSS.

>> No.40591292

>>40591218

It's really not a big problem. My company handles hundreds of CPUs per month and stores even more. There are tried and true ways of storing and transporting pinned CPUs and it's really not a big deal.

I still think they need to ditch the idea of compressing pins. There needs to be a rigid structure so there's nothing to fuck up from the stress of compression/bending.

>> No.40591312

>>40591242
Theres a VSS and a VCC that are bent/gone/whatever.

am i fuckd?

>> No.40591322

>>40591292
> rigid structure
Then you would need to make sure all of the pins are exactly the correct length. Any variation ( and I mean ANY ) would cause problems. Compression pins resolve this problem.

>>40591312
That picture is not oriented correctly. Look at the middle.

>> No.40591387

>>40590865
You aren't fucked. Get a sewing needle, or something similar, and gently bend the pin into place by sliding the needle underneath the pin. I've fixed bent LGA pins this way dozens of times, and they worked find every time. If the pin breaks, as in, if you stretch it back and forth too many times, then you are fucked. Just be careful and move slowly.

>> No.40591394

>>40591322

Pinned CPUs have rigid structures, so there are obviously other solutions than making the pins themselves compress and bend. Plus, variation on compression pins causes them to snap from normal use, so the point there is a bit moot.

How about using tiny balls that compress inward slightly? Then you have compression without stupid fragile structures exposed everywhere.

>> No.40591485

This is raeg core postan!
Yep you are fucked.
I never understood why the cpu makers and...

oh yeah... it's cheaper to make a mobo that could be swapped on the fly than to put the shit on the cpu. In laymens terms you use less gold if you made one mobo that used 2-3 cpus than the otherwise. More FRAGILE FFS... :(

>> No.40591548

>>40591394
>variation on compression pins causes them to snap from normal use, so the point there is a bit moot.
The acceptable range of variation for compression pins is a lot larger than the acceptable range to make contact with the fucking CPU. But yes, I agree. There should be pins on the CPU like AMD does, and it needs to have a latching system like Intel does. However, I bet they have patents on those 'technologies' so we wont see it any time soon.

>> No.40591590

>>40591036
>>40591485

The reason for having the pins on the MB instead of the CPU is because a lot of cpu's are soldered on to boards these days (laptops, etc.) and it's cheaper for the chip makers to make just one part that an be socketed or soldered.

>> No.40591601

>>40591548
LGA packaging allows for higer pin density... AMD has some LGA cpu's fyi

>> No.40591606

>>40591601
They do? Interesting. Mobile or desktop?

>> No.40591644

>>40591606
all recent opteron based sockets have them

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