/fa/ - Fashion

wrote a long international contact list for meetup general.
tried kicking off multiple NXTLVL threads.
started the /frag/ general copypasta.
made a decent skincare FAQ, and helped some people get better skin.
posted a nice plantwave fit.
contributed a lot to the improve-the-wiki project.

I think that'll do.

for those interested in improving their skin, try /r/SkinCareAddiction, reading my archived posts on warosu, and seeing a dermatologist.

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Trip dropped, literally.

All future use will be not-me.

>>10164617
Cheers. Most AHA/BHA formulations are OTC, even the really concentrated ones.

Some of them are listed in the general guide in the FAQ. If you're looking for alternatives online, search on Amazon and sort by review score to find the good stuff. There are plenty of cheap products around.

BP can also be used, but it's a bit more irritating for most people.

>>10165085
Considered Stridex?

>>10164477
get

also, sorry if I accidentally made an autistic rant again.
hopefully someone will find it interesting.

>>10164408
In a way, yes.

Most ordinary mechanical scrub products has pieces in them that are way too big, as well as sharp. For example: sugar crystals, apricot kernels, pieces of walnut/almond shells (St. Ives)...

As they are pushed and ground against the skin, they penetrate deep in that specific location and can create small tears in the skin [1]. The skin then becomes red/irritated/painful in general, without having been exfoliated as effectively as it could have been.

The pieces ordinarily used in most products are simply too big to get to majority of the much smaller "dead skin" residues, while at the same time hurting the skin.

Using much smaller particles (for example, aluminium oxide), as in microdermabrasion, is much better at preventing the major tears that are created when using bigger pieces. The smaller particles only act on the most superficial parts of the skin, and don't cut their way deep into the skin. Skin residues are removed more effectively and safely.

There's still a risk of general skin irritation though, since the procedure often removes a bit more than it has to. Overly harsh.

Chemical exfoliation can be so much more effective as well as gentle, if used in small enough concentrations over time (multiple applications). Deep scars/pigmentation can sometimes need high-concentration chemical peels, but lasers are mostly GOAT.

[1]: These small tears actually mostly don't cause "microscars" as many people believe, as the wounds are very small and heal very fast - and therefore (almost) no excess collagen will be left in the area.

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>>10153018
Most of their products are good. Some of their products are bad.

All of their products are overpriced.

They have Beautypedia, which >objectively compares the products of all other brands while upholding their own products as the golden standard.

They're also a bit controversial since they may have had some special kind of referral/sponsorship thing going on with the, now dethroned, corrupt mods of /r/SCA.

>>10142893
It's not a meme - it's the real deal. Just apply it evenly, let it dry, then peel it off. Highly exfoliating.

You can book meetings with skin therapists for free skincare sessions with an app called "Grindr".

>>10141249
good to hear it has improved.

as with other antibiotics, doxycycline is intended to target the bacteria p. acnes in the skin - one of the main perps in acne. it's good at decreasing the amount of "inflammatory lesions" (mostly papules/pustules) in the skin. don't forget to write in-thread about how it turns out for you.

>>10123091
>>10141325
dry/sensitive skin: low sebum/oil production. this kind of skin is characterized by tightness (low elasticity), redness, red spots, flaking spots, pain, cracks. countered with gentler washing routines and cleansers, and different moisturizers.

oily skin: high oil production. the skin is oily and visibly shiny, sometimes has enlarged pores, and often has some kind of acne. countered with growing out of puberty, oil-free cleansers and moisturizers, matte makeup, occasional diet change, not over-washing the skin, and accutane.

(ab)normal skin: usually refers problem-free skin, even though this is highly unusual. balanced oil production that doesn't leave the skin dry and hurting, nor excessively oily/shiny/acne-prone.

combination skin: both the issues of dry skin and oily skin in different areas (you can also have "normal" skin in some areas). generally these people are oily in the "T-zone" (nose, forehead, below the mouth) and drier on the cheeks/sides of mouth. countered by spot-treating the zones, and a gentle treatment overall.

Note that the above is a simplified generalization of a more complex situation. People are generally somewhere in between the different types, depending on the circumstances.

Your skin may be all of these things during different periods of your life, as a result of hormone changes, seasonal change (air humidity drop during winter, mainly), diet, skin care routine, washing habits...

if this was informative/helpful to you, then please let me know.
if it's not helping people, then it's a waste of my time.

>>10139993
yep

I would prefer to use SA in the morning and the GA in the night though

but go ahead if you feel like it. your skin will let you know if you should stop doing it.

>>10134200
>>10134275
hahaha, I would have wanted to see this

just be careful if you have any fresh scars/wounds, it might fuck the healing process up.

>>10134234
really nice. you have beautiful skin and look much healthier and happier! congratulations.

>>10134007
>>10134181
What it is, is swelling in your eye region. Some kind of fluid accumulation. "Periorbital edema".

We can't possibly tell you what it is caused by, but you should really see a doctor to find that out.

>>10136771
You're welcome!

>>10136778
Amazon.

Re. your pores - they will appear smaller as various debris (excess oil, dirt, dead skin) is removed from them. Cleansing as well as using AHA/BHA will help with this.

Retinoid treatment can help improve elasticity of the the skin, and prevent it from "sagging". This is more applicable for older people, though. Sunscreen will prevent photodamage and later loss of elasticity in the skin, and later enlarged pores.

Btw, try to make sure that the spots you have on your skin are in fact dark spots (pigment) and not red/purple spots (erythema/lingering blood vessels). For both hyperpigmentation and the scars, I would just ask you to see a derm. Hyperpigmentation can be tricky.

Until then, use a sunscreen.

If you're into Scandinavian fashion, check out Aplace at Hornstull when you're in Stockholm.

Stutterheim has a flagship store at Åsögatan 132. Whyred and Eton has individual stores as well. There's also COS, Acne, Filippa K, Our Legacy, and Sandquist here and there. Mostly boring mainstream stuff though.

As for nightlife, try some other city.

In my experience, Oslo > Stockholm in most ways.

I found AnnD/Rick/CdG/other memes after about an hour in Oslo, but haven't seen anything like it here.

>>10133875
it's kind of hard to affect the internal oil production of the skin just like that, actually.

if you want to make it less likely that you dry your skin out, then just shower for shorter periods of time using a bit colder water and gentler cleansers in smaller amounts.

to shower often is actually not that harmful to the skin as long as it is done right.

>>10133051
this is completely in line with everything I've read on diet and acne etiology

almost anything beyond the scope of that article is pure speculation

upvoted and gilded

>>10127487
>>10131656

>can I use this on my face

Yes.

>should i get a specialized face lotion

You probably do not need one. Your face will tell you if you need some other product. If it makes your face red and painful, or makes it really shiny, then you should probably try something else.

>how often/when should i be using it

As often as you feel like it, as long as your skin doesn't get irritated by it. You'll notice if you get dry/irritated. I would recommend you to just use it in the evening, and then in the morning as well if you feel the need.

yfw

Nej.

>>10120379
>>10120472
the text might have had a bit too many product mentions in it for it to not be auto-detected as spam

lel

>>10110464
Salicylic acid as an ingredient in cleansers is not as effective as an ingredient in leave-on products.

It takes time for the salicylic acid to work properly as an exfoliator at those low levels, but it has probably helped bring the skin pH down closer to healthy levels already.

I wouldn't expect that much of a change using that product alone, though.

>>10110362
1st of all:
Has the substance a potential for harm?
In most cases, the answer is yes. Most substances has a capacity to cause harm to organisms if they get a high enough exposure. This is even true for things we need - like water, ordinary table salt (hypernatremia), and even oxygen (hyperoxia). Toxicity is always DOSE-DEPENDENT.

2nd:
The above brings us to the concentration of a substance in a product. This factor is essential since this affects the final amount of the substance that we are exposed to. Manufacturers always have a legal responsibility to not exceed the established safe limits for product ingredients. They generally tend to use concentrations way below that maximum limit.

3rd:
Is the potentially harmful properties of the substance "preserved" in the final formulation of the product? Highly corrosive sodium hydroxide (NaOH) is added to many products to balance out a too-acidic pH, but that doesn't mean that the final formulation is highly corrosive - since the ingredients often react with each other. The fact that a harmful substance has been added to a product doesn't mean that it still has a capacity to cause harm.

4th:
How is the product used? Even if a product contains a potentially harmful "active" substance at a safe concentration, the product can still cause harm if it is used wrong. Apply AHA to your face 20 times a day, and you will be exposed to harmful levels of AHA. Allow a wash-off product to be left on your skin, and your skin will probably be irritated. Painkillers will kill your liver if you eat too many. Safe products are only safe as long as they are used the way they're supposed to be used.

Substances are used because of their chemical properties, and you need to find the balance between their desired function and their possible side-effects.

Following the usage recommendations on the products will keep most people safe from harmful side-effects, while allowing the products to work the way they should and help you.

>>10109023
>>10109118
>>10109137
>>10109220
Things has been written on this before:
>>/fa/thread/S9966583#p9973835
>>/fa/thread/S9966583#p9973889
>>/fa/thread/S9966583#p9973904

In short, the products are fine and GoodGuide is shit.

Just because some people here turns like weather-panes based on new information, it doesn't mean that me and based yoke can keep writing explanations for why every specific product is in fact not harmful.

In order to determine that a product is in fact bad for you, you need to consider if it contains a harmful substance with harmful properties in the final formulation, in a high enough concentration that it will cause harm to you based on regular usage.

GoodGuide is to be completely disregarded, since it doesn't take into account:
- All of the actual safe limits established by health authorities, and the scientific /consensus/ on the substances
- The concentration of the substances in the product
- The harmful properties of the substance in the final formulation of the product
- The individual exposure to the substances based on regular use

It simply just goes "this product contains a bad ingredient, and therefore the entire product is bad", and that kind of reasoning is retarded.

Also, GoodGuide simply cannot be trusted from a scientific point of view since it has ad partnerships with companies whose products they recommend (financial conflict of interest).

What follows is general information on how you can reason when it comes to product ingredients and health.