/fa/ - Fashion

>>15478134

Having wealth and fame and using it to rip people off instead of coming up with your own ideas is a grievous sin. All of humanities greatest artists, philosophers, and theologians would recognize what Virgil is doing is wrong. It’s also very likely that all of the greatest unborn artists, philosophers, and theologians of the future will recognize what Virgil has done is morally reprehensible as well. Meaning you could take Virgils actions and place them within the context of any great society past or future and people would almost certainly say “yeah what that guy is doing is wrong and fucked up and mega cringe”.

The only exception that really works is if you place Virgils actions within the context of African-American hip hop culture of the current age. Within that context Virgil is “securing the bag” and “playing the game” and “finessing people”.

So you’re right Virgil is “winning” if you place his actions within the context of one of the most materialistic and soulless cultures to exist anywhere on Earth within the past century. However in essentially all other situations Virgil is just a guy who steals even though he’s already rich. Like I said history won’t look kindly on his legacy.

>>15477964

cope and seethe zoomer. virgil abloh will never be recognized for his design talents and that’s obviously the only thing he really cares about. it’s poetic justice. if he ends up being remembered for anything it will be the absolutely insane mileage he got out of being friends with kanye west. that’s his legacy, showing the world how many doors you can open by repeatedly saying “i know kanye”.

What Virgil has been doing for years now is not inspiration it is ripping people off. When Picasso takes inspiration from traditional African masks and then creates oil paintings what he is doing is transformative. He’s taken an idea from one place and he has used his own skills and sensibilities to take it somewhere new. When people talk about how everyone steals they are assuming the work they create is transformative like this.

What is NOT transformative is taking inspiration from someone who is working within the same medium as yourself and then re-creating their work under your own name. What Walter van Beirendonck has done is take inspiration from somewhere outside fashion and has created a transformative work of fashion from it. Virgil is not taking inspiration from Walters work or even taking Walters original inspiration. He is taking Walters finished work itself and copying it. This is why 99% of the time good fashion designers DO NOT take inspiration from each other. They take inspiration from architecture, and film, and museum exhibits and whatever else. It’s simply too difficult to be inspired by someone else’s clothes and then make your own clothes and not have it end up being derivative.

For Virgil to take finished works from other fashion designers and re-package them as his own is hugely disingenuous. Kanye for that matter is being hugely disingenuous himself. He knows what Virgil is doing is wrong and he’s justifying it by saying “Black people are disenfranchised and have been ripped off before so Virgil gets a free pass”. Why can’t Virgil just come up with his own original ideas like everyone else? It’s extra offensive because he has near unlimited money and resources at his disposal. Virgil doesn’t take inspiration from people. He takes their finished designs and work. It’s total bullshit. Kanye didn’t BTFO anyone.

>>15411508

how many sleeves have you made that aren't a raglan or a set in?

Something like Supreme is no different. People think it’s so easy to replicate the Supreme formula. Yeah of course, you just need to go back in time 30 years and then say NO to every single offer to sell out to department stores or get bought out by Chinese investment firms. Yeah just say NO, over and over and over again to millions and millions of dollars. Then you too can have an insanely well respected brand that people will pay anything for.

Acronym might be one of the most hyped brands in fashion but it’s that way for a reason. What’s actual pea brainlet shit is seeing something insanely well regarded and going “no, this has to actually be shit, there’s no way people can like things”. You and your ilk are no different than the people who shit talk creators like Kubrick or Hemingway. It’s totally asinine. The work is impeccable. Is it completely without reproach? Of course not. But the narrative being peddled in this thread that it’s all overpriced trash is a massive cope. You can even see the obvious salt in here from people who have been priced out of the brand. That’s unfortunate but it has no bearing on the evaluation of the work. The brand has busted their ass for years. They deserve every penny they make at this point.

Acronym worked as freelance designers for other people for close to a DECADE before having saved up enough and researched enough and learnt enough that they were confident in launching their own line. Trust me, it’s not a money printing machine. For years and years they were limited by the fact that NO ONE wanted to manufacture their clothes because they were that autistic and complicated. What they ultimately had to do was convince a factory in Czech Republic to manufacture their line and in exchange they would design the factories in house line. For years and years they were limited by the size of this small factory. Their brand was red hot and stores were lined up to place orders and they literally could not make enough product for everyone. A huge aspect of Acronyms pricing in the earlier days was dictated by actual real scarcity. As in there literally isn’t enough to go around and they can’t make more. They’re a company after all trying to make a profit. But when they could only manufacture 20~ of a style per season and there’s department stores that want to place orders for 30+ garments per style their only solution was to raise prices and limit quantities. For years and years stores could NEVER order as much product as they wanted. It was almost always limited to a single size run per style per store, sometimes even less.

In a way it worked out because it increased the hype but it also shows you how much money they left on the table by sticking to their high design principles. Almost anyone else would have dropped the intricate details in order to secure more manufacturers and make more product. Which is exactly why there is only ONE Acronym. Brands like this are DEFINED by their ability to say NO to easy money and stick to their principles.

As for the gimmicks comment you have no idea how much time, energy, and resources goes into stuff like that. It’s actually pretty disrespectful to refer to it as a gimmick. 99% of brands on the planet don’t do anything remotely close to Acronyms “gimmicks” because they’re actual engineering feats that require serious time, money, and talent to develop. For every one successful design feature like that, there are 100 sitting in the trash. Sometimes you’ll develop an idea over the course of MONTHS and get right up to the production stage before realizing there’s some kink you can’t hammer out no matter what and you have to scrap the entire style. This is exactly why almost no one else does this stuff. It’s expensive and dangerous.

If what they do is so easy why doesn’t anyone else do it? There should be dozens of Acronym knock off brands with the same level of quality and ingenuity by now. After all it’s just a bunch of gimmicks right? How hard could it be? Ask anyone who actually makes clothes. They’ll have the utmost respect for brands like Acronym, it’s not even remotely easy. It’s a constant struggle to survive and it’s not even profitable. They could make 100 times what they do now if they just made t-shirt and sweatshirt blanks every season with the Acronym logo on it. Brands like this honestly can’t be overrated because what they do is so rare and can disappear so quickly. A couple bum seasons and they’re likely out of the game forever just like other experimental and visionary brands like Sruli Recht. Designers like Hussein Chalayan can’t even make their clothing lines profitable EVER. He needs to constantly do consulting and contracting work for other people to keep the dream alive. You really have not even a clue how hard it is. All you see is a $1000 jacket and think “wow anyone can just make up a price and make bank”.

Designing for brands like Burton as a consulting agency before they started Acronym the clothing line. This just straight up tells me how much you don’t know. The fact that they’ve done something like an M-65 style field jacket DOES NOT mean they directly lifted a pattern from a military garment you rube. Someone can stylistically take influence from a garment and that doesn’t mean they copied it 1:1.

Pic related. If you know even a little about pattern making THIS is fucking crazy; and absolutely analogous with the design of sports cars. It’s a genuinely proprietary sleeve construction that’s genius. However knowing you literally don’t even know anything about pattern making, this will literally just be a bunch of random lines to you. Meaning this argument is almost pointless to be having. Why even comment on something like this that you know so little about? Totally asinine.

>you pay heavily for marketing

Acronym has an advertising budget of literally zero. In fact they have never advertised anywhere EVER. You’re completely out of your element on this one. I don’t think you have any clue how any of this stuff works. There’s no purchased Acronym ads in magazines or sponsored content on social media. If they get featured in anything it’s because they were approached by the publication / platform and the coverage is entirely free for them. So if they’ve never spent a dime on advertising how could your money be going toward paying for their non existent advertising budget? Do you even think about any of this stuff before you type it out and force someone like me to read it?

>>15411262

You don’t know anything about sizing. It’s one of the most difficult things to nail. It’s a mix of both art and science. In the entire history of fashion there’s been like 2 serious medical studies on the human body in relation to clothing sizing one from like 100 years ago and one from like 50 years ago. Almost everything we know about industrial fashion sizing is derived from those two studies. Little else has been done to improve our current understanding of sizing. It’s an area of clothing that’s incredibly important but incredibly understudied. The unfortunate reality is that people have simply accepted that mass produced industrial clothing will never fit perfectly. You should still be getting anything you buy off the rack tailored. Regardless if it’s a dress shirt or Acronym. So I feel sizing is a pretty unfair point to critique them on. No off the rack brand has remotely good sizing. It’s always imperfect in some way. Everything is simply based on a fit model and sometimes with a brand you’ll get lucky and be close to their fit model but 9/10 times you aren’t and that’s just how it is. It’s the trade off for the clothing even existing and you being able to buy it in the first place. The only real alternative is bespoke or made to measure clothing. If they changed the sizing to better accommodate you what happens to all the people who the brand fits perfectly right now?

As for the patterns they are NOT straight lifted from military garments. Not even fucking close. You know absolutely nothing about pattern making if you think that. Every block they use is entirely custom and someone with even a modicum of knowledge would realize that. It’s painfully obvious when you break anything from the brand down. If there’s any genealogy to their patterns at all it would be from snowboarding gear if anything, considering that’s where they got their start.

>>15410889

>getting this butthurt at my jovial and irreverent mention of MGS2

You’re a simpleton latching onto the lowest hanging and most pedestrian elements of my posts. Read my first post in this thread and refute any of it. Show me the nobility of your spirit. Because all you’ve done thus far is get assblasted over my taste in pop culture like a rube.

>>15410781

>people just do things randomly, there’s never any external forces influencing anyone

the only pseud here is you. don’t even reply to my posts. you‘re incapable of higher thought. go play with someone else.

>>15410509

If you don't think memes have been co-opted by nefarious forces you're not paying enough attention. Memes are television 2.0. They're already being used for the same pacifying and placating effects and for drip feeding information to people. There's something dark about using the humour of relatability to psychologically open people up and make them more receptive to various ideas and indoctrination. We've known for a while now that countries like China and Russia employ an army of internet commentators in order to manipulate narratives and public discourse online. Do you really think it's that absurd that they're not also paying people to create memes? More importantly the private sector moves much faster on these types of new developments. There's already advertising agencies that specialize in creating manufactured memes for corporate advertising campaigns. I know something like fashion memes seem lightyears away from this stuff but it's really not. Culture now operates on a super-flat paradigm. Mark my words you think all of this stuff is just a bunch of cute jokes but there's an agenda behind it. It has a depersonalizing effect that makes people question if they even genuinely like anything. It's working to create a collective unconscious that's easier than ever to manipulate and guide. Memes within the context of fashion almost always qualify as thought terminating cliches. That is they seek to establish a narrative and discredit all dissenting thought surrounding it.

Also play Metal Gear Solid 2 it predicted all of this.

>>15410442

As of this moment right now my posts are genuinely the most interesting, engaging, and illuminating anonymous comments happening anywhere on the internet regarding fashion. You will find nothing remotely similar within the anti-intellectual pogroms of Twitter or Instagram. Nor on the pseudo-intellectual mire that is Reddit. Or in the accursed zoomer infested ghettos of YouTube and Discord. This is it. If you thirst for knowledge and insight my deftly woven anonymous 4chan musings are akin to drinking from a frosted glass of ice cold water on a hot summers day:

>>/fa/?task=search2&ghost=&search_text=&search_subject=&search_username=&search_tripcode=%21%21xPyeSRsxKUQ&search_email=&search_filename=&search_datefrom=&search_dateto=&search_op=all&search_del=dontcare&search_int=dontcare&search_ord=new&search_capcode=all&search_res=post


Here, go ahead and screen cap the rest of my posts as well. You might actually learn something.

Fashion memes are one of the worst byproducts of post-modernism. Nothing has done more to suck the soul out of fashion than irony, cynicism, and detachment. If you regularly consume fashion memes you are being mentally conditioned to treat everything like a joke. You’re essentially being programmed to turn off your brain and believe that caring about things is cringe and gay. Memes are a PSY-OP to paralyze people and drive them to inaction. It’s a nihilistic cult and represents the dearth of creativity.

The end result of all this is clothes like Vetements and Off-White. Possibly some of the worst apparel to curse fashion in decades. It’s time to unplug. This shit was OLD almost a decade ago with the party Wojaks. What has this type of content wrought? Memes are the ultimate conversation killer. “There’s nothing to discuss dude, this meme says that brand is cringe, it’s over”. This is the world we live in now. However the aristocrat of the soul denies this existence. Rather than focusing on the bad we channel ourselves exclusively toward good. We don’t care about social capital or the musings of pea brainlets. We value high concepts, creative design, beautiful craftsmanship. We are sincere and focused. We take these things seriously because it is a serious matter. The world is filled with ugliness. We are drowning in it. The post-modern approach of embracing and celebrating this ugliness is akin to spiritual suicide.

If you consume self-aware post-modern ugly meme brands and imagery you will NEVER make it. Unfollow all fashion meme accounts. We need to cut off their supply of oxygen so they all suffocate to death. If we don’t kill them, then they will kill us. Everything has become so cynical and ironic that actually sincere and beautiful things can’t even exist. Everything has to be a perverted self aware version of itself. It’s repugnant. If you’re not sick of it yet you should be.

The details however are where I feel the brand really shines. They've come up with pockets that are so functional and innovative that after you use them you're just left thinking "why is every other brand using the same design that's hundreds of years old instead?". It hurts to actually go back. Stuff like the way their hoods fit so they're never inconvenient or in your way. Just the way it all generally fits and feels. It's a million little subtle differences that almost no other company could ever justify spending time on developing. If you've ever been like "why are clothes still so boring, I wish I could wear stuff like in a sci-fi film". Acronym is literally the brand that lets you do that. And none of the details or features are just done for show or to "look futuristic" like so many other brands. No, pretty much everything genuinely feels better than the traditional but tried and true counterpart.

I've said this before but Acronym is seriously similar to Apple in a lot of these regards. No one bats an eye at paying $1000 for an iphone when there's $100 Huawei's because they know how much thought goes into the design and how satisfying it is to use Apple products. Using their stuff actually makes you pause and go "yeah, this really does feel like i'm in the future". That's the same difference between an Acronym jacket and something like a North Face or Columbia. You're paying for innovative and cutting edge design that no one else has the freedom to explore. It's just so insanely rare to have an actual money making enterprise where you get to go "price is no object, just make it as insane as possible". There's like a handful of companies on the planet like that in their respective fields and Acronym is absolutely the definitive one for clothing.

Acronym is one of the only clothing companies on the planet where barely any of this matters. When they sit down and design a jacket there is no marketing department, there is no budget, there are no real stipulations or requirements. It's the difference between a Kia and a Ferrari. The Kia engineers have a serious amount of limitations and costing issues they have to consider. The Ferrari engineers basically get to do whatever they want and whatever the end cost comes out to be, that's simply what it is.

If you want seriously innovative and cutting edge clothes, that's Acronym. It's insanely expensive for the same reason anything like this is. Massive amounts of time and resources going into developing small runs of experimental product. If you just need a car to get you from point A to point B the price of a Ferrari seems absurd. If you have the money to blow however and you're seriously into cars, mechanics, and engineering the Ferrari doesn't seem so insane. Not to mention there's very few people who regret the Ferrari purchase once they're actually driving it. The same is true for Acronym.

The pattern-making alone on Acronym product is phenomenal. If you don't know anything about clothes-making it just looks like a bunch of extra lines on shit. And for 90% of techwear brands that's exactly what it is, just a bunch of aesthetic styling placed for no real reason. With Acronym however, every seam has a purpose, a function, and was seriously considered before being placed. The free range of movement and articulation on some of the pants and jackets is genuinely just above mostly everything else that's out there. You can seriously feel the thought and consideration that went into everything when you're wearing the product.

First things first, because it's techwear:

Do you only care about performance and durability? If so it's not "worth it". There's nothing magical about an Acronym jacket. It will perform the same as any other Gore-Tex shell. It will last roughly as long. If these are your chief concerns the brand is not, nor has it ever been for you. You can stop reading my post now.

For anyone that actually wants to know what makes Acronym worth it the answer is pretty simple. When someone designs a product there are limitations that need to be taken into consideration. The largest one for almost everyone is price. At a company like H&M the brief for a designer will be something like this: that jacket you're designing cannot cost more than $8 to make. That one stipulation dictates and shades everything. How intricate the details can be, how expensive the fabric is, how much they can think outside the box, etc. it's all decided by price.

Even at companies similar to Acronym like Arc'teryx that do very good innovative high end work there are massive amounts of stipulations. For example the marketing department might dictate something to the designers. This jacket has to have a button cuff on it because those have been trending recently etc. Also for the record Arc'teryx is one of the companies that has to deal with this stuff the LEAST because 1. they have their own factory (and their own tooling shop to make modifications to their machines... which is unheard of and mental) and 2. they have an insane reputation. Contracted factories will bend over backwards to accommodate them, even if they have crazy requests. For 99% of fashion companies, their daily existence is basically dealing with a million different cost constraints and design stipulations and budget problems and manufacturer limitations. If these issues are a 9/10 in importance for most fashion companies, and maybe a 6/10 for Arc'teryx, they're probably a 2/10 for Acronym.

>>15401666

hey whats up, pandemic has got me grounded for a minute so just dicking around on the internet and falling into old habits. state of the board is of course the worst it has ever been (as has been the case every year I check in). most interesting thing though is seeing how zoomers grapple with all of this stuff.

i know exactly why they hate it and its because their entire understanding of it comes from grailed and rappers. i don't think i can really convey the insane amount of sadness i feel for zoomers that are into clothes. they're getting to see it all through the absolute most gay and cringe lens ever. i would probably hate undercover too if the only thing i knew about it was the off-white collab and grailed product descriptions written by cringe olympians. i'm so fucking glad i got into fashion when it was uncool as shit, rappers wore sean john, and if you wanted anything second hand you were forced to post on a forum about it and get dunked on for 100 posts before you could cop.

on the other hand maybe all of this stuff needs to become uncool and hated. that's actually for the best. undercover has "died" like 5 times now. i know japanese girls that wore it in the 20th century and thought it was over by the time gyakusou came around. the only problem is if anything needs to be killed by zoomers it should be fast fashion and luxury megacorps. so i don't really think they have a leg to stand on shitting on undercover when 99% of their fits is fourth hand gucci and uniqlo that they drew all over.

>>15399543

It's nice, I don't really have strong opinions about denim / workwear stuff.

>>15399948

Maharishi isn't remotely similar to visvim...neither is Jil Sander... like at all. I really respect all 3 brands so I don't really know what you want me to say but each of them are in completely different lanes. Sorry but this is a pea brainlet take if I've ever seen one.

>>15400091

I've been on 4chan since 2005 and /fa/ since the board opened. I've literally never used reddit in my life. You're probably a zoomer that's like 20 years old and was literally in kindergarten when I started posting on this website.

>>15400480

Years upon years of raw unbridled autism.

>>15400572

nonnative is actually really tight. You have to see their stuff in person, it's probably some of the most well thought out product coming from that space within Japan. Everything from the fit to the details to the fabric selection you can just tell. It has pretty much zero hype outside Japan because at the end of the day it's honestly just really well done stuff. They're not trying to reinvent the wheel or make some kind of huge stylistic statement. If you go to Japan and ask around though it's a ton of peoples favourite brand. That's why I say it's probably one of the most slept on. Everyone knows stuff like Engineered Garments and Nepenthes but imo nonnative is basically at the exact same level.

Snow Peak is just bad though. The actual camping product is amazing. The fashion line they only started like half a decade ago because the owners daughter took over the company. The whole line is obviously her baby but it's just not very good and kind of sucks. There's really no reason for it to exist. Actual dedicated clothing brands do what they do so much better. I own a ton of the camping stuff though and it's just totally without reproach. Sucks that the new head of the company basically doesn't care about it and is trying to force the clothing line instead.

>>15399353

You do realize I was using hyperbole to make a point, correct? I was illustrating the problems with Italy in order to highlight the benefits of China. I obviously don't think Italy is shit or China is the best. Anyone with half a brain recognizes that each country has pros, cons, particular product categories they're simply the best in etc. Honestly, don't even reply to my posts if they're not directed at you. I was talking to someone completely different that thought visvim was bad because they use Chinese contractors now.

You're patently wrong on the technical outerwear front though. There's a reason Acronym is now manufacturing in China after spending literal decades trying to find a factory in Europe that could make what they wanted. China not only just straight up has the most but also the best Gore-Tex certified factories in the world. Which is important because Gore has the most stringent manufacturing requirements of any textile manufacturer. Arc'teryx (arguably the best technical outerwear company in the world) took on Chinese investment a few years back and a huge part of that deal was having access to Chinese technicians for consultation. In other words, they not only wanted but needed to have a part of their company owned by the Chinese so they could then recruit Chinese talent directly because they're that important if you make technical outerwear.

>trying to make drama to make yourself seem like a knowledgable business insider.

You're a fag, I'm in a thread about visvim replying to people who are totally misinformed on the brand. I don't care about any of the shit you think I do. Honestly, fuck off. I don't doubt that you're industry but I'm literally talking to someone else and you're replying to my posts like a bitch.

>>15399113

there's like a million different entry points it depends on what you want to do exactly. i'd still recommend fashion school but only a smaller technical orientated program at a school without much renown. a 2-4 year BA program will basically equip you with everything you need to actually make product (sketching, pattern making, sewing skills etc.). if after that you stay in the industry for a bunch of years and then still really want to do a line thats the point i would recommend enrolling in a masters program at a well known school (if it wont destroy you financially, otherwise not worth it).

if you have zero skills and dont want to go to school you can try interning somewhere but imo you probably wont really learn much and would just be getting coffee. as an unskilled intern you wont really be getting allowed to do anything. where you can actually MAYBE learn is if you stick around after hours and make friends with someone at the company who's cool and willing to show you some of the ropes and let you fuck around. that's always how it is with internships, massive crap shoot. if there's no one cool you connect with, you're getting coffee for 6 months and that's all you'll get out of it.

self taught route is obviously always possible but total insanity. there's just very few actual good resources out there and you need to be insanely stubborn and motivated. it's usually only done when people legit have no other options whatsoever.

also lastly you can just ignore all of this advice and just make shit and potentially make the right thing at the right time and meet the right people and you're in. you can just figure out everything above as you go and anything you don't know you can make a friend or hire someone if you have to.

with that said i think honestly almost everyone who is successful has to use a mix of all of the above and then some. very few peoples career path is just a straight line.

>>15399095

the landscape is rapidly changing, like you said, china isn't even cheap anymore. people are going there because it's legitimately the only or best option. this trend is only going to develop further. the rest of the world is not going to decide "hey lets bring back all our clothing manufacturing and get really good at it again". fat fucking chance. likewise imagine china going "hey we should stop making clothes and just get really bad and lazy at it". fucking never. the world is constantly in flux, if you don't adapt you're just going to get screwed.

>>15399097

i don't know what to tell you. that's china. unless you have deep contacts there and are physically visiting each factory you're going to get done dirty like that. actually even doing as much prep as possible it's almost impossible to avoid. i actually don't think anything where serious trade secrets or proprietary importance is involved gets made in China. its that bad. leaks are such an insane liability and the culture there about it is fucked. its slowly getting better but not really. its because not only is cheating to get ahead considered totally fine culturally but also trade and patent law is just pretty much non-existent or never enforced for infringements on foreign entities. if it's a serious problem for you i'd recommend somewhere like taiwan or vietnam instead.

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>>15398726

no matter how much they get memed riri zippers and cobrax snaps ARE fucking extra double ridiculous expensive. we're talking about a 50 cent YKK zipper that works perfectly well vs a $15 riri. none of you understand how mark up works. you put that zipper on a jacket and it bumps the wholesale price up $30, which bumps the retail price up $60. now imagine a jacket that has a main riri zip that costs $35, two pocket zips at $15 each, and an interior zip that's $5. that's $70 in zippers COST. that's $140 at wholesale, that's $280 the retail price on that jacket just bumped up because of the fucking swiss made zippers.

this shit isn't a joke, it's a legitimate reason why things are fucking expensive.

>>15398440

i've had several and they let me travel around the world, pay my friends, have a laugh, and finance future projects.

>>15399087

stick with it, you'll never go back once you realize what's out there.

i doubt you’ve handled anything. how many times have you been to the visvim showroom in paris? i’ve literally owned both made in china and made in japan virgils and i guarantee you would never be able to pick out which is which without looking at the label. how do i know? because it’s the first thing i did. “there has to be some cut corner or something”. nope, literally the same. you think someone as autistic as Nakamura just says “fuck it, after caring intensely about quality craftsmanship for 2 decades; i’m just going to make everything cheap and shitty” ? what do you even know about hand stitched footwear? you realize it’s basically becoming a lost art right? that is except in China where they’re undergoing an artisanal manufacturing renaissance. rising wages are making it more and more difficult for china to compete with countries like vietnam and bangladesh on cheap contracts. in response chinese manufacturers are going high end to offset costs. literally the exact same thing Japan did. laugh now but in 50 years it’s possible the bulk of the worlds luxury product will be made in china.

Nakamura understands this shit because he’s on the ground floor. that guy probably spends 3 months a year doing nothing but travelling around the world and visiting factories. you really think you know anything? this shit is like the tip of the iceberg. all i’ve mentioned is what’s going good with china. you probably don’t even have a clue about what’s going wrong with japan. anyway you’re a dipshit you don’t know anything. you shouldn’t share takes on topics like this. you’re actually a moron and an idiot.