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Just curious, does what a brand stand for/ how ethical it is effect whether you purchase from it or not?

I personally think that when it comes to brand ethics Patagonia has the best quality gear and they produce it in the most humane and sustainable way.

>> No.9744346
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9744346

>want to buy Patagonia because i like their corporate ethics
>their corporate ethics also include "don't buy our shit to replace shit you already own if it works fine, that's pretty wasteful breh."

>> No.9744357

>>9744337
i dont give a shit about brand ethics

obviously i want clothing to be good quality but i dont care if some sweatshop kids make it.

>> No.9744359

I bought a near-mint patagonia flannel at a non profit thrift store whose profits go local animal shelters and finding pets new homes. Copped for $15. I couldn't fucking believe it.

>> No.9744363

zara

>> No.9744368

>>9744337
Patagonia is the shit.... Yvon Chouinard, the guy that started it is one of my heroes and I'd much rather buy from them than any other company.

>> No.9744407
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>>9744359
Thats amazing

>> No.9744412

>>9744357
oh...

>> No.9744418

>>9744357
this thread isnt for you buddy

>> No.9744423

https://youtu.be/z20CjCim8DM

Mini doco on patagonia brand loyalty

>> No.9744463

>>9744423
How can someone hate on patagonia, like seriously, unless you are a jealous poor nigga, or a brand victim of northface or someshit.


Also does anyone know of other brands with similar quality and brand ethics?

>> No.9744467

fuck yeah, I have a 55% hemp Patagonia button up thingy that was my dad's a while ago, which means it's about three or four sizes too big for me (he a big nigga lmao). I love seeing my girl wearing it and nothing else. Patagonia is the shit.

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gonna post my favourite patagonia gear for aesthetics

>> No.9744481

>>9744359
>15 for a used shirt

thats not a good deal

>> No.9744483
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>> No.9744484

>>9744481
For Patagonia it is.

>> No.9744487

>>9744481
it is for patagonia man

>> No.9744597

bump

>> No.9744912

I always prefer to buy things made in Australia, USA, Japan etc. but goddamn it can be expensive

>> No.9745128

>>9744337
Some of Patagonia's stuff is nice, but in general the quality or design isn't going to knock your socks off. I'd much rather get arc'teryx for technical/outdoor wear. Ultimately quality and design trump corporate ethics for me when it comes to human labor.

>> No.9745145

>>9744912
I don't see what the big deal is on dishing out >$100 on a shirt you know is going to be worn for half a decade.

>> No.9745393

>>9745145
I would have no problem buying a jacket, shirt, pants or something like that but spending a substantial amount on a t-shirt that I'll spill coffee on or the neckline will stretch is a little hard for me to do

>> No.9745836

>>9745393
American Apparel t-shirts are made ethically and are about 18 dollars full price. You can buy a three pack of them and it'll come out to ~14 each.

http://store.americanapparel.net/fine-jersey-short-sleeve-t-shirt-3-pack-_2001pac

>> No.9746238

Patagonia thread? Patagonia thread.

I've seen a lot of people mention the Torrentshell as a solid lightweight coat, but what I'm not seeing is why I wouldn't just buy a lightweight Arcteryx coat instead. What are some of the pluses the Torrentshell has going for it that I'm not seeing? inb4 price, I'm more curious about why the design seems so popular with people.

>> No.9746242

>>9744337
Fjällräven is another one, not really surprising that /out/ brands want to sustain nature and earth in general.
I think Nudie also had some ethics about their gear.

>> No.9746276

>>9746238
>from a /fa/ perspective
Patagonia is a more appealing looking brand, slimmer fitting and the ethics of the company are alot better, you know what you are getting is premium quality from reliable and humane sources.

>from an /out/ perspective
Offers a little more breath ability because of the blend, layers very well with a sweater or any other mid layer, durability is also a key factor and patagonia definitely comes out on top.

>> No.9746411

I've never realized how great patagonia was

damn I'm going to steal my dads old pullover widebreaker

>> No.9746415

>>9744346
Nice dilemma. I really like that pic too.

>> No.9746849

>>9745128
Same for me. I really like and respect both Patagonia and Norrona. But unless I come across an incredibly good deal I'd rather spend my money on Arc'teryx. For my activity Patagonia would have been more than good enough, but being a bit of a nerd about equipment is part of the joy for me - both when it comes to /out/ and /fa/.

>> No.9746963
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>> No.9746980

Buying local. Don't fanboy for stores or brands. I know what I like and if I can't find it close by I don't buy it.

Patagonia sounds cool though. Seems like they have that old style of buy nice don't buy twice. That's worth admiring. A shame companies like American apparels are still solvent.

>> No.9746985

>>9746963
shia

take me

>> No.9747037

>>9746980
Not everyone lives in a huge city tho

>> No.9747120

>>9746963
our lord has spoken

>> No.9747166

>>9744337
I just try and buy from brands that manufacture in first world countries such as Reigning Champ, American Apparel ect. Bought a Go Ruck GR0 a few months back because I liked their brand ethics.

I like to think that my stuff is made by people who get paid a decent wage to make it because I believe that if you get paid good money to make something, you will take more pride in what you're doing. I also like the thought of denying money going to poorer countries because it makes it easier then to exploit them out of natural resources and in the future, I see natural resources being at the very center of a nations success. I want good, decent countries on top. Not a bunch of chinks, spics and niggers.

>> No.9747174

>>9744473
just copped this the other day.

>> No.9747212

>>9746276
>More appealing looking brand

Bullshit. Patagonia looks like shit compared to Arcteryx hence why it's so cheap.

>The ethics of the company are a lot better

Also bullshit. Why the fuck would I want dirty 3rd world hands making my jacket when I could get it made by Canadian hands instead?

Get off Patagonia's dick. They're basic as fuck and are simply a budget outdoor brand. Arcteryx are better in pretty much every area.

>> No.9747218

>>9744463
>Poor nigga

Implying Patagonia is an expensive, quality brand...

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>>9747212
>canadian hands

Even if you are buying LEAF items or Alpha SV jackets which I believe are still manufactured in Burnaby - those hands are mostly Chinese-Canadian.

Arc'teryx produce most of their stuff (70%?) in China and South America now, but suposedly only because of capacity. Their new owners have been branching out and making it mor eavailable (in some parts of the world at least). With production in China there is easyer access to fabrics, machinery, spare parts and skilled labour. Their Chinese factories are said to look exactly like the one in Burnaby all the way down to all the little Chinese hands that makes the clothes.

>> No.9747292

>>9744337
No, I give no shits. Exploiting poor countries is what white people are born to do. If they aren't serving me what good is it to keep them alive.

>> No.9747322

>>9747166
Latin americans are almost as bad as indians. I fucking hate people from developing countries. They're always such rude cunts. Latin americans and indians are the worst though. Brazilians and argentinians are some of the most stupid people I've ever met while being arrogant. Indians are bad, they're the ugliest and their culture is the worst, but they're not as dumb. Africans are always polite though, probably because the brits used to chop their hands off lmao. I haven't met any west africans though, I've heard their the worst.

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Tfw will never own this patagonia cap

>> No.9747414
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>>9747387
should i get it in black

>> No.9747417

>>9747414
yes

>> No.9747595

Can't wear any of this cool stuff in Texas heat. Damb.

>> No.9747722

>>9745836
that would be great if the quality wasn't shit

>> No.9747739

>>9747414
w2c

>> No.9747749

>>9746963
looks really comfy tbh

>> No.9747761

>>9746238
I really didn't care for the fit of the torrentshell when i tried it on. Their windbreaker is pretty nice, though, but so is arc's

>> No.9747768

>>9746980
>Seems like they have that old style of buy nice don't buy twice
maybe 40 years ago

>> No.9747774

>>9747739
search for patagonia fitzroy cap

black one's available on a lot of sites and i've also found the other one on a few sites but shipping to europe is rape

found a site that ships internationally with reasonable prices but they won't ship patagonia and some other brands
fuck this

if you find a site with decent shipping cost to europe please post here

>> No.9748111

>>9747322
But Anon we treat people good in Latin America we love everybody don't judge us so bad

>> No.9748125

>>9744337
>Patagonia
>best
>quality

it's like a more expensive north face. wouldn't wear either.

>> No.9748202

>>9747595
>tfw 80f today
bad bad feel

>> No.9748261

I buy apple products because they look sexy, I get girls numbers easier with an iphone, and people with macbook pros tend to look more affluent than some generic dell or asus boring black laptop.

Apple uses child-labor. I paid the corporation for the product that allows me to do my job and get more money and pussy. The corporation pays the children. I don't see how that is "unethical."

Apparently it is, though.

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>>9748261
>I don't see how that is "unethical."

>> No.9748305

what designer labels employ good ethics?

is slp sweat shop made? is rick owens? raf? ann?

>> No.9748319

>>9748261
because the iphone costs $650 and $400 of that is pure cash profit for apple, the rest is for creating the phone itself

some people think that, apple should keep only $350 for example, and give a fair wage to the 'kids'

(its not made by kids but by grown ups, in very shitty conditions though)

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myself in my snap-t

did I do good /fa/ ?

>> No.9749097

>>9748202
it's 98f here today goddamn what the fuck do I wear

>> No.9749102

>>9749097
shirt shorts
like a fuccboi

>> No.9749134

>>9749102
I have skinny chicken legs please no

>> No.9749138

>>9749134
are you me

>> No.9749145

>>9749138
Are your legs hairy as fuck too? Then ya prolly. W2c good t shirts

>> No.9749163

>>9748261
Underage asian girls die inhaling too much aluminum making your iBad tracking devices.

>> No.9749590

>>9747322
Lmao

>> No.9749633

>>9748261
>literal nigger psychology
i bet you wear polo too

>> No.9749646

>>9749163
they were going to die sooner or later

>> No.9750129

>>9748929
u look like u smoke too much weed and have acknowledged that you should stop but still haven't yet

im only projecting a tiny bit i swear

>> No.9750219

I definitely am attracted to companies that seem humane, but usually i'm skeptical and i feel that even if i did a lot of research, i couldn't be sure that a company in question fully used agreeable policies.

>> No.9750242

glad someone made this thread. lets talk about "patagonia". am i the only one who finds it a bit ironic how pro environment, pro recycling they are yet ll of their clothes are made in chinese sweatshops? they are up-in-arms about a damm being built that might harm a fucking salmon, but they have no problem exploiting poor chinese women for 30 cents a day. suck these nuts, patagonia, fucking hypocrits. take your environmental activism and fuck off

>> No.9750281

>>9750242
>dang, someone with a post style awful as mine

Dude don't talk ill of the salmon. Creatures have no choice but to continue surviving in the places where people decide to conduct their business, but laborers sign up and work hard to keep their jobs and make money for their families.

Having said that, i agree that companies who pay dirt wages and have garbage work conditions forfeit any moral capital they might have claimed from good environmental practices. And, while it sucks, garment making has been an okay path into the middle class in developing areas. You could boycott patagonia, but then those workers would get 0 of your cents instead of 30

>> No.9752270

>>9749633
I do.

I am not a roodypoo, however. I prefer Lacoste.