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>> No.8045591

Is that a tranny on the left? wood berry

>> No.8045593

>>8045589
>the new movement in which women are encouraged to have giant asses and tits

I know feminists will support this shit but it seems kind of ironic regardless.

>> No.8045596

>>8045591
forgot to say no homo

>> No.8045828

Im not attracted to midgets

>> No.8045834
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8045834

>Attracted to skinny girls because they look good in clothes

>Sexually attracted to curvy (but not overweight) girls

ambivalent feels

>> No.8045840
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8045840

>promoting being fat and unhealthy instead of being lean or in shape
I'll never understand this new trend, good thing I only have skinny friends who will hate on this shit with me

>> No.8045850

>implying normal women look that good as a size 14

>> No.8045851

I love how their faces were still photoshopped to make them more appealing. kek.

>> No.8045855

>>8045840
Ridiculously narrow minded view. Some people's healthy weight is like in OP pic. They're not overweight and they're probably healthier than you.

>> No.8045861

>>8045834
Fuck right in the feels

>Want an /fa/ girl to bring out with friends and hang out with
>Want a curvy girl to fuck

>> No.8045866

>>8045834

I'm the same way. I want I cuddle with skinny cuties but fuck curvy bitches

>> No.8045871

>>8045855
>op pic
>not overweight

ooooo jaaaa :)))))))))))))

>> No.8045876

>>8045834
what about a skinny girl with big boobs

>> No.8045877

>>8045855
loooooooooooooooooooool

>> No.8045906

>>8045876
a skinny girl with big boobs who is also good looking and dresses well... rare as diamonds

>> No.8045912

>>8045589
w2c mid girl

>> No.8045917

Oh look, girls who got lucky in the genetic lottery and manage to maintain the desirable hourglass figure whilst still having 'curves'. All this shit does is shift the paradigm of beauty; there always has to be the ugly, the undesirable and 'real' side to body consciousness. These girls are not in anyway a representation of the 'norm'

Also, fat as FUCK

>> No.8045923

>>8045906
Diamonds aren't rare

>> No.8045935

>>8045917
I think more people are considered curvy than skinny (especially catwalk skinny) so it is actually more representational of the norm. Also fat bashing is not cool anymore.

>> No.8045938

>>8045840
You only have fucking gay friends lol

I'm probably better looking than you and I think the girl in the middle is perf

>> No.8045940

>>8045923
rare as gold

>> No.8045946

>>8045935
>Cool

fuck off fatkid

>> No.8045959

>>8045917

exactly. Humans categorize things, and since sight is our most important sense, physical attractiveness will always matter. Conceptions of beauty may change but there will always be 'ugly' people and 'attractive' people.

Even if this new muh curves shit is successful at changing our conception of beauty (which it wont be) there will then be a bunch of skinny frail girls feeling like shit about themselves

>> No.8045975

>>8045959
>implying the definition of beauty is always mutually exclusive to one body type

>> No.8045984

>>8045906
Skinny girls with big boobs can't be /fa/, anything they wear looks awkward

Don't get me wrong, I would pick a girl with big tits over an /fa/ girl any day

>> No.8045985
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>>8045851
Here's the mid girl

I love fat girls tbh. So fucking yummy
tfw short, young and attractive. I'm just physically meant for petite girls

tbh I'm more intimidated by girls like this
http://www.xvideos.com/video7615955/big_ass_latina_whores_crave_rough_anal
than petite qt's

>> No.8045990

>>8045984
>Skinny girls with big boobs can't be /fa/

That's just not true.

>> No.8045995

>>8045975

I never said that. What I said was, there will always be attractive and unattractive people, and that no matter what, someone is getting left out in the cold. Do you disagree?

(nice first year university terminology faggot)

>> No.8045996 [DELETED] 

test post

>> No.8046001 [DELETED] 

>>8045996
test 2

>> No.8046004

>>8045959
Because skinny was always the norm of beauty

It literally used to be frumpy. Look at paintings
As early as the 60's, it was chubby. If you read a brave new world they keep talking about "pneumatic" as if it's the norm of what guys find attractive

While I'm at it, hederosexual-ness wasn't even always the norm. Read Lysis by Plato
>Lysis says he fell in love
>Socrates automatically assumes it's to a guy, which it was

>> No.8046012

>>8046004

are you fucking illiterate? That is what I said exactly. Conceptions of beauty change, but there will always be attractive and unattractive people.

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>>8045984
Dressing well and being fashionable is not really the same thing. I don't care if a girl isn't fashionable as long as she dresses well.

>> No.8046022

>>8046004
Is being overweight normcore?

>> No.8046023

>>8045995
Actually you did imply it by saying

>Even if this new muh curves shit is successful... there will then be a bunch of skinny frail girls feeling like shit about themselves

So yes you literally did imply it's one or the other.

(nice primary school grade failure of logic dick boy)

>> No.8046026

>>8046022
>people are either skinny or overweight
>what is middleground
>what is non-linear
>when will i ever lose my virginity

>> No.8046037

>>8046012
>Even if this *new* muh curves shit is successful at changing our conception of beauty (*which it wont be*)
And don't fucking talk to me like that, bitch

>> No.8046052

>>8046023
Well Im correct, girls that are flat as boards and frail have a very real chance of falling out of vogue. Im not saying NO ONE will find them attractive, Im saying that their particular body type will fall out of sync of the current mainstream conception of beauty. Fuck go on /soc/ and look at the fat dudes thread, there are tons people getting their rocks off to some pale fatty's grotesque form, that doesn't mean that it's what the majority of people find attractive.

>>8046037

I said not because I believe that humans have a biological aversion to finding fat bitches attractive, or that they will never be part of mainstream beauty ideals, but because its a stupid social media scam propagated by fatties who think that "everyone" is beautiful. Which is a sham, and people see through that.
>>8046037

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8046062

I'd fucking destroy this girl, my dick can't handle it. PLEASE let this be the fucking new normal.

>> No.8046067 [DELETED] 

>>8045996
>>8046001
is anyone else seeing these

>> No.8046092

>>8046052
>a biological aversion to finding fat bitches attractive

You're completely disregarding environmental aspects like culture that more than overturns this speculative "biological aversion".

The proof is already here as the other anon said we, for a large chunk of civilisation, found curvature more desirable.

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>>8045935
yes it is, tubby

>> No.8046099

>>8046062
It's normal in the US.

>> No.8046103

>>8046092

Read what I wrote. I said I dont believe people have a biological aversion to it. Silly monkey

>> No.8046111

>>8045589
"Mid"
So, basically being fat it's now a must.
Sorry to ruin your dreams but being overweighted isn't healthier than being skinny.

>> No.8046112

>>8046015
why is she so sad? :c

>> No.8046120

The majority of overweight women don't have an hourglass figure like that.
They also always bring attention to tits to compensate. Regardless, nowadays big tits = sex, slim body and pretty face = beauty. Curvy women hold more power in ordinary life because sex, even in the most vulgar sense, is more direct than beauty. Still, beautiful women manage to be considered both pretty and sensual, at least with guys and women who don't strictly categorize like some anons in this thread. Let's say that in everyday life a curvy woman is favoured, but maybe not in the grand scheme or not emblematically. Chubby/curvy women are therefore trying to obtain thin women's status, but if they egotistically keep holding on their sex symbol status too there's no way thin women will favour that.

>> No.8046121

>>8046092
Oh fuck I forgot the word that. It should of read "I said that not because I Believe that humans have a biological aversion to finding fat bitches attractive"

>> No.8046122

>>8046112
because shes skinny and fat people are always happy

>> No.8046127

>>8045593
LOL

>>8045985
>tfw short, young and attractive. I'm just physically meant for petite girls
Petite women don't like short guys.

>>8046112
Because she's in twee.

>>8046120
>The majority of overweight women don't have an hourglass figure like that.
This. Then again, neither do the majority of thin women.

>> No.8046138

fucking disgusting

>> No.8046139

>"B-b-but I can rationalize my hatred of fat people! It's because they lack self control and are unhealthy! It's obviously bad to be unhealthy because it is irresponsible! Therefore, they have lesser value as people!"
>"Now excuse me, but do you have a light? I wanna smoke this cigarette as I hope into my car and speed down to the club, where I'll get blasted on $5 martinis and fuck a random stranger in the bathroom stall. After then I'll stumble out into the beautiful San Francisco night, breathe in the smog filled air, and pick a fight with a random stranger."

>> No.8046142

>>8046138
they're outta ur league

>> No.8046152

>>8045593

How is it ironic? Are you stupid, m8?

>> No.8046167

>>8046127
>This. Then again, neither do the majority of thin women.
True. In general, hourglass figure is rare. Anyway, it's been demonstrated that one of the few body features that actually biologically attract males is waist-hip ratio. You don't need to have huge hips and a tiny waist to more or less have the right ratio. But if you're overweight, most of the times your waist disappears.

>> No.8046172

>>8045589
I like how they fight beauty standards but still use beautiful women on the poster. "Curvy is sexy", sure, but you've got to have a pretty face ! None of the fuckers who advocate for fat acceptance want to shag the fat ones with bad skin, bad hair, weird proportions, ugly faces... We're all shallow in some way or another, and they are too.

>> No.8046189

>>8046152
Not him, but probably because it's further sexualization of women, and it encourages them to have assets men are usually the ones to fawn over. Encouraging women to have curves and tits is like encouraging them to be skinny, really. If feminists think the latter is unfair, they should think the former is, too.

>> No.8046196

>>8045985
lmao those epicanthal folds!

>> No.8046199 [DELETED] 

>>8046067
i test posted ur mum

>> No.8046208

i hope they photoshopped their cellulite out or else i'll feel bad...

>> No.8046211
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>>8045589
little known fact: these women are considered thin in america

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>>8045589

>> No.8046213

>>8045940
Gold isn't rare either man

>> No.8046222
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>>8046189

The problem is not the body parts that are sexualized, as if they are inherently and solely sexual appendages, but that our current socio-cultural structuring wraps the meaning and functionality of women's body in sexuality.

Generalizing the views of feminism is inherently flawed because feminists disagree constantly. It's a relatively new movement that gained prominence during the rise of existentialism/post-structuralism. This is why the movement is so contentious - they fall victim to the same sort of false pretenses that the structures they are attacking commit.

tl;dr - there are plenty of feminists (I'd wager, the majority) who would call this reverse "thin shaming" hypocritical. The point should be that women should be encouraged to have any type of body (rail thin or soft and curvy) they want without societal pressure that is motivated (primarily) by unfair sexualization of the female body.

>implying any of you are going to read this
>tfw

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8046232

>2014
>not wanting to fuck fatties

>> No.8046234

>>8046222
I read that. Sadly, I'm a female who doesn't hate every feminist or women in general, so not your average anon.

>> No.8046242

>>8046222
I agree with this wholeheartedly, but third-wave feminists aren't even real feminists anymore, just tumblr-landwhales who want to feel validated. They don't care about other body types than their own; they fight for their own personal comfort, not for that of all women. They took feminism and ruined it.

>> No.8046247

>>8046234

I guess my entire point is this - it's sad that the popular face of feminism is composed of tumblr-tards who are just as clueless as the neckbeards on /pol/. If you're going to disagree with feminism, fine. But at least do the reading. There's plenty of rigorous and enlightening feminist philosophers who are actually successful in their attacks on gender conventions. Don't watch one Angry Atheist video and conclude that all feminists are irrational.

>> No.8046265

>>8046242

Again, you're generalizing all third wave feminists as "tumblr-landwhales". I think there is a good argument for "fat acceptance" (though there are limits, as in, when those same tumblr feminists claim that they're obese and perfectly healthy, or that every woman who is skinny is a mindless-drone conforming to body image standards.)

I don't think fatness should be encouraged, but rather that judging someone's worth, or treating someone differently, based off of their body/health is hypocritical and unethical. Also, that there is unfair pressure on women to conform to a body ideal that isn't necessarily congruent with their own self-interests.

>> No.8046277

>>8046265
>>8046265

Why should unhealthy body types. Whether they be fat or rail thin, be part of the beautiful peoples club. Some people are going to be heavier, but if someone is lazy and doesnt take care of themselves I should have to like it or not judge them for it. Its part of being a human.

>> No.8046278

>>8045589
>mfw this is my favorite body on girls
They gotta have good skin tho

>> No.8046286

>>8046265

Basically, aesthetic beauty is a fluid social artifice.

Basing someone's value on aesthetic beauty is hypocritical/unethical.

There is a need to challenge gender roles by examining the genealogy of how these conceptions of masculinity/femininity are constructed.

However, being fat is unhealthy and it shouldn't be encouraged.

The way to fix the problem of fatness is to make changes to the culture (better health education, better access to food, etc.), rather than chastising everyone who is fat.

Attack the problem at the core, and not the consequences of the problem.

etc

>> No.8046293

>>8046277

Your sentence is structured oddly and I don't understand what you're saying. However, the minute I see "it's part of being human" or any variation on some claim about human nature I have to assume the argument is based on false pretenses to begin with. And if we bring human nature into the argument, then it's going to spiral out of control and end up somewhere completely outside of the topic at hand.

>> No.8046294

>>8046127
I meant what I look good with, What I look like I'm meant to be with

Anyway I don't think any category of girl specifically prefers short guys. At the same time having an attractive face pretty much guarantees me an attractive girl. Height doesn't make any guarantees

>> No.8046295

>>8046277
Some thin women are born like that, not because of unhealthy lifestyle. The comparison between thin and fat is wrong. Thin equivalent is thick. Those are body types.

>> No.8046300

>>8046222
>unfair sexualization of the female body
>unfair
What the hell is that supposed to mean? Now physical attraction is unfair?

>> No.8046301

>>8046277

Maybe I understand what you're saying now. Nobody is telling you to "accept" fat people as being beautiful. If you don't find fatness attractive, then fine. But that doesn't justify the claim that skinniness is objectively more beautiful, or that it is wrong for someone to be fat, or that you should pressure someone into being skinny by shaming them (antagonizing them, making them feel guilty and unattractive, etc.)

I don't find fat girls attractive and I don't find rail-thin girls attractive. But I'm totally cool with girls having any body they want and I don't base value off of their body types. I try to treat fat girls the same way I treat skinny girls, just as I try to treat women the same way I treat men.

>> No.8046305

>>8046286
>Basing someone's value on aesthetic beauty is hypocritical/unethical.
That's literally all you can judge from an image

>> No.8046306

>>8046293
judgement is inevitable. Comparison is natural. You cant teach people to not see things and understand how those things got to be the way they are.

EG. A fat person eating Mcdonalds:

People know Mcdonalds is fattening and bad for you.

Therefore People are going to judge that fat person

Some people are going to be bigger regardless of what they do, but everyone, with a little effort, can get themselves to look better. I don't buy the whole "i shouldn't feel bad about being fat" bullshit. No one has to be really fat, or super frail and auschwitz, I find them both lazy and unnattractive.


Also my english is not perfect (Norwegian fag)

>> No.8046314

>>8046286
>Basing someone's value on aesthetic beauty is hypocritical/unethical
lol wow
Value is relative, in this case relative to a big inherent part of what we: sexuality

Obese is unhealthy. Chubby, or even fat isn't
None of the girls in that pic would be unhealthy because of their weight

>> No.8046319

>>8046300

That if you look at the genealogy of gender roles, you'll find that A) there is more pressure put on women to maintain a certain body type, that B) this is usually informed by socio-cultural standards in which the female body is sexualized, and C) that women's value is (to different degrees based on the culture) unfairly tied to how well they conform to this sexualization.

Simple example - a huge factor in a woman getting a job (and thus, being able to survive) is whether or not they are attractive (they have to dress well, put on makeup, put on perfume, be constantly bright and happy, or in other words, they have to conform to a standard of what it means to act and look like a woman)

This is the same for men, but not to the same degree. All of this is unfair to both women and (to a lesser degree, but still) men.

>> No.8046329

>>8045589
wood berry in middle any day, on the left every other day, on the right if i haven't gotten laid for 2 consecutive days

PAWGs FTW

>> No.8046349

>>8046319
So which of those do female bus drivers have to be?

>> No.8046355

>>8046305

Yeah, but if your entire judgement is based off of superficial qualities it is not well informed. You're fallacious in making an unfair generalization and you probably shouldn't put too much weight in your assumptions. You can have your initial assumptions. Fine. But you probably shouldn't act based off of them or treat someone different because of them.

>>8046306

Read above. Yeah, first impressions, taste, comparisons, etc. are natural. But how much value you place in these first impressions/tastes/comparisons should be taken with a grain of salt.

I see a fat person eating McDonalds. I conclude they are willingly ignorant and lazy.

I get to know the fat person. Turns out that they were abused as a child and developed an eating disorder that they've been struggling with for decades. Also, they're a very hard worker. They're such a hard worker that they have very little time or energy to cook their own food. Because of this, they eat fast food, because our society has made it cheap and readily available.

Fast food is also addictive (salt + sugar + fat = endorphine spikes). That coupled with a disorder makes it easy for them to fall into a trap of unhealthy eating.

This is all based off first hand experience (me being the fat person.) I was obese for over a decade and I just recently lost weight and got healthier.

Now here's the kicker - who gets more shit for being fat? Men or women? Who gets pressured more to be skinny? Men or women? And why?

>> No.8046364

sure is FIDF in here

>> No.8046366

>>8046319
Except that there are much more men attracted to women of all types than there are women to men. There is literally a sexual niche for every type of woman

When you realize this, you'll understand that sexualization comes as a whole. The fact that there is a lot of sexualization toward certain type of women is illustrative of there being a lot of sexualization toward women in general
And the benefits they receive because of it are obvious

>a huge factor in a woman getting a job (and thus, being able to survive) is whether or not they are attractive
Are you literally trying to say there are more attractive women in the work force than ugly

>> No.8046381

>>8046349

There's probably less pressure to hire an attractive bus driver because it's considered a more masculine role.

This is a good point about conforming to gender norms.

I work in an office environment. I have a friend there who applied to be a supervisor. She's smart, hard working, and also, very feminine. She was passed up in favor of a more "butch" looking woman, hired from outside the company.

No shit - when my friend confronted our boss, she was told that he was afraid she wouldn't be taken seriously as a supervisor because she "looked too nice" and that she was more of the "office mother" (I'm paraphrasing, but it was basically this.)

The thing is, not only is it unfair that he considered the role of a supervisor to be more masculine, and thus, hired a more "masculine" woman. It's also unfair that he's right. She probably wouldn't have been taken as seriously, because who takes women seriously?

If a woman is bossy, she's a bitch. If a guy is bossy, he's a "take charge" kind of a guy who "knows how to get shit done."

>it's also somewhat unfair to men - if you're a frail, wimpy looking guy, you might get passed up for a more conventionally attractive and masculine person, even if you are more qualified.

>> No.8046386

>>8046355
>who gets more shit for being fat?
Most boys are told not to comment on a girl's body so men

>> No.8046392

>>8046381
>because who takes women seriously?
nobody
unless they're hot then i'll take them with just enough seriousness to bang em then ignore em after

>> No.8046391

>>8046355

So its my responsibility to assume to know everyones life story? Im not saying that I think fat people are bad people, just that, if they choose to sacrifice their appearance, whatever the reason may be, they shouldn't be considered attractive. I also realize that effort =/= attractiveness, nor do I think that everyone has complete control over their weight. I'd love it if the modern conception of beauty was based around functional, healthy bodies, and I think it is getting there.

>> No.8046400

>>8046366

>Except that there are much more men attracted to women of all types than there are women to men. There is literally a sexual niche for every type of woman

Yeah - because women are idolized as sexual objects. Any woman can find a guy because they got tits and a vagina. That's the deciding factor in whether or not a woman is seen as a viable partner.

>When you realize this, you'll understand that sexualization comes as a whole.

True. Gender roles are fallacious for both genders. But which gender more often benefits from inequalities in gender roles?

>And the benefits they receive because of it are obvious

But they're unearned benefits. This is unfair to both men and women. Women have this sort of advantage over men, but at the price that their value is unfairly conjoined with their sexual qualities and not other qualities.

>Are you literally trying to say there are more attractive women in the work force than ugly

I should've said "a huge factor in a woman getting a certain job". Typically, your looks are (to a degree - I mean, you can't be smeared in shit and dressed in clothes five times too big) less important if you're a guy.


This is a huge misconception - that feminism is a fight for and by only women. This is false. Gender roles imply inequalities in both men and women. It just so happens that men more often benefit from these inequalities. The argument is that if we reevaluate these roles and challenge them, then both men and women will benefit.

>> No.8046403

>>8046004
but being skinny was /fa/ as fuck in the 20's

>> No.8046417

>>8046386

lmfao, fuck out of here. Is this trunks?

>>8046391

Why shouldn't they be considered attractive, if aesthetic beauty is fluid and socially constructed? You're saying "should" as if there's some ethical component to this. The fact is - you're (as in, a general sense) more likely to harshly judge a woman for being fat than you are a guy, even if you're not aware of it.

>> No.8046423

Anyways, I gotta go /fa/. Thanks for talking with me without divulging into an angry shitstorm. I appreciate it.

<3

>> No.8046430

>>8046391
A naturally robust/thick body is functional and probably healthy. A naturally thin body is functional and probably healthy. Each one has its own advantages, too.

>> No.8046444

>>8046417
It's true a friend of mine get's shit all the time to his face. He's pretty fucking fat though.

>> No.8046457

>>8046444

Just because a guy is more likely to get shit to his face doesn't mean that women are being judged internally more so than men. Plus, plenty of girls will viciously and persistently harass other girls for being fat.

Again, it's not like guys aren't unfairly judged too. It's just that a woman's value is more tied to their appearance/sexual appeal than men.

>> No.8046461

>>8046430
Im fully aware of it, Im a heterosexual male who is sexually attracted to females, of course Im going to scrutinize their appearance more. You act like this is some kind of revelation.

Unhealthy people shouldn't be considered attractive (and by shouldn't I mean, what I think should be reinforced in society) because they haven't taken the time and put effort into their physical appearance. Should I like a person who sucks at piano as much as a person who has spent years perfecting the skill.

>>8046430

I agree completely. I think skinny frail aushwitz skinny people (girls and guys) are unattractive.

>> No.8046500

>>8046400
Women have much more social benefits than men
How many forever alone women are there?

>> No.8046515

>>8046391
>if they sacrifice their appearance they shouldn't be considered attractive
If they're considered attractive, then they apparently aren't sacrificing their appearance

>>8046461
lol you have the arguments of a fucking child
He just pointed out how big doesn't equate unhealthy
>because they haven't taken the time and put effort into their physical appearance
So anyone who doesn't work out shouldn't be considered attractive

>> No.8046521

>>8046500
tons
they just dont bitch about it endlessly on 4chan so you're not exposed to it

>> No.8046523

>>8045855
nice b8 m8 r8 8/8

>> No.8046530

What feminist fatties need to realize is that no one cares.

The men who lay the cushions under their asses when they fall are the same predatory losers that they so claim to not want to date, the ones who have recently started changing the tune about the kind of women they like because they've given up and realized that actually hot chicks don't want them. So what do they do? Along with the fatties they try to change what the standard is because they're mad that they can't get thin, fit, or even actually curvy(not fat) women. Now they're calling the thin girls ugly, unrealistic (even though they're standing right in front of your fucking face).

But what kills me about the fatties is that they hate it that some men have standards, but I don't see them feeling the same way about those ugly, fat, repulsive neckbeard types. And I hear women saying that they're the ones told to have to settle. But of course people are going to tell the fat and ugly to settle, because that's all people feel you can do when you're fat and ugly is settle.

Of course no one is going to tell Chad he has to settle, because Chad can do better than fatties and average women. Of course no one is going to tell the female equivalent of Chad to settle, because the female equivalent of Chad can do better than geeks, fatties, and average men.

The problem here is fatties of both sexes who think that they're deserving of better just because they want it. Fatties, ugly women and men can't face the facts. They don't want to fuck each other because they know deep down that they are undesirables. Yet they'll preach all of this bullshit about their inner beauty and will try to guilt Chad and his female equivalent to fall in love with them, but the irony is that they don't see the same inner beauty of the uglies and fatties of the opposite sex.

That's why you have these landwhales on tumblr trying to shame their neckbearded equivalents when really they're have no grounds to talk shit about those guys

>> No.8046537

>>8046515
>calls me a child
>writes nonsense

I dont understand your first point whatsoever

To your second point, I said "nor do I think everyone has complete control over heir weight" I have no problem with big people if they are healthy. I dont even care if people are fat, just dont expect me to find it attractive.

Im not saying you have to work out either, Im just saying that eating like shit and letting yourself go entirely shows you don't have self respect. What is so hard to understand about this.

>> No.8046542

>>8046521
Forever alone women are women who are often just stupid. They're out of wack with society, because at least the loser forever alone men have a point, no one wants to fuck them no matter what they do. No the fat women, not the hot women.

Believe me, I've seen some shit. There's a guy out there that will bang any chick.

How much fat male fetish porn do you see out there?

>> No.8046602

>>8046530
this is a book i'm not going to read

>> No.8046618

>>8046530
>>>/r9k/
This whole thread belongs there really. I'm tired of miserable faggots who think their fat/skinny debates (more like pissing contests) belong here.

>> No.8046643

>>8046521
>>8046500
theres no such thing as foreveralone for men or women until you die having been alone for your entire life
surprise surprise 99% of people who bitch about being foreveralone are in their 20s or under
and all the people, granted ive only heard dudes complain about this irl, but all of them have found a gf within a couple years foreveralone people are really just pitiful overdramatic people who are always looking for somebody out of their league

>>8046542
>because at least the loser forever alone men have a point, no one wants to fuck them no matter what they do. No the fat women, not the hot women.
its not about who wants to fuck them because even old fat nigger men can usually find someone to fuck them for free its about are they actually going for EVERYONE or are they still being picky or have they just given up
PROTIP: they usually just gave up because its easier to complain than to keep looking

>> No.8046652

time to fap
Radical Feminists be (not) fucked

>> No.8046656

>>8046366
>Except that there are much more men attracted to women of all types than there are women to men.
And yet on a place like 4chan, even the men who are thought of as the bottom of the barrel, have very stereotypical/strict preferences. To the point where a picture of a girl with an above average body or face would be mocked as ugly because it's not a top model or top porn star's body.

>> No.8046660

>>8046656
Bateman's principle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bateman%27s_principle

>> No.8046670 [DELETED] 

>>8046660
And? The point is in women there might be .05% of like something thought of as ugly by the mainstream whereas there are about 2% of women who do. But 98% of them are still fapping to pictures of some hot girl millions of other men are doing the same thing to.

>> No.8046682

>>8046660
And? The point is in women there might be .05% of like something thought of as ugly by the mainstream whereas there are about 2% of men who do. But 98% of them are still fapping to pictures of some hot girl millions of other men are doing the same thing to.

>> No.8046703

>>8046682

The thing about MRA/MGTOW is they always have another hypothetical man in mind. They're talking about a rare exception. It's ironic because they get annoyed when women do the same.

Yes, if you browse a board like /fa/ or even /s/, the posts about women display a pretty steady and limited idea of what makes a girl hot or not. There are tons of dudes who fuel weird fetish sites, but looking at the big picture, they're dwarfed by the men who hate that shit and just want the same girls. It doesn't take a genius to realize this. All you have to do is look through these boards every now and then, the mindset is plain as day.

>> No.8046711

>>8046222
Post-modernism is done mate, we're already heading to more pragmatic, saner shores.

>> No.8046746
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8046746

>expecting shit-tier men to have shit-tier perceptions of beauty.

You dumb cunt, me being ugly does not stop me being able to "objectively" rate the beauty of women.

What it does is make me willing to settle for 3/10s.
I'm not going to say they're beautiful and that I'd prefer them to beautiful women.

If someone somehow had a preference for ugly features then they are a disgusting mental mutation.
Ugly features are a signifier of poor health, development, genes etc.
Possibly there was people that got hard as diamonds over lopsided features, crooked as shit teeth, hunchbacks etc. but nature bred them out for some reason.

>> No.8046769

>>8045834
>ambivalent

thanks for teaching me that word today anon

>> No.8047342

>>8046213

rare as thulium

>> No.8047353

>>8046746
>What it does is make me willing to settle for 3/10s.
lel when your idea of a 3/10 is most other dudes idea of a 5 or even higher IRL, thats where your "objective" ratings start giving you problens

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>>8046746

>> No.8047414

>>8047353

>when your idea of a 3/10 is most other dudes idea of a 5 or even higher IRL

What? from where do you make that assumption?

He's pretty much right.

>> No.8047435

>>8047414
i can tell by your post format you're samefagging (come on) but i'm making the assumption based on how dudes like that respond to pictures of girls that are considered hot IRL
or prove me wrong and post a photo of a 3/10 you know personally

>> No.8047465

>>8046746
>nature bred them out for some reason.

"Nature bred out people with fetishes that were developed on their own."

You're the simpleton here breh.

What you speak of is pure irony.No, being ugly doesn't mean you can't discern who's attractive and who's not You're free to judge all you want. Being a huge dick who feels entitled to pass judgement is another matter altogether.

>> No.8047795

>>8045876
they just look bad. Only good thing about them is flowy tops, thats shits sexy on big boobs

>> No.8047812

i wonder if it has many scenes of these girl stuffing their faces full of junk food and farting and sweating

>> No.8047820

that'skindahot.jpg

>> No.8047821

If your BMI is not in the 'healthy' range, kill yourself.
If you want to be skinny, just work the muscle mass more.

>> No.8047838

>>8046247
/pol/ isn't clueless.
They're just autistic.
They know exactly what they want, but they'll never have it.

>> No.8047843

In order of fuckability:
>right
>left
>middle
Middle bitch just looks weird to me.

>> No.8047848

>>8047342
Rare as berkelium.
Ftfy

>> No.8047852

>>8047843

you got it backwards

>> No.8047855

>>8047843
middle is the hottest by far then the left one then the right
right has a fat face but the others have regular faces

>> No.8048042

>>8047821
My gf is below the BMI because that is a really shitty basic measure. She has a small petite frame but is not actually underweight.

>> No.8048179

The one on the right looks utterly revolting, and British.

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8048267

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8048328

>>8048267
>mfw

>> No.8048349

>>8048267
that's a modern model with a filter, fuccemperor

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8048368

My ex was a size 14, similar shape to the middle bitty.

We dated for two years, and then I dumped her because I was worried she would get fat once I put a ring on it.
>her mom is fat
>didn't want to take the chance

>> No.8048376

>>8048368
She was already fat a fuck. Lol

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8048394

>>8046222
Don't agree with your idea of unfair sexualization. But i'm glad you're saying osmething intelligent on /fa/. Have a fit.

>> No.8048410

>>8048368
>worried she would get fat

she was genuinely obese dude

>> No.8048422

>>8046286
>what is reproductive value

Our brains are hardwired to automatically judge someones reproductive potential based on physical characteristics. (i.e. hip/waist ratio, breast size, etc.) It would be foolish to think that judging someones value based on aesthetics is unethical because it goes against human nature.

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8048428

>>8046417
>Why shouldn't they be considered attractive, if aesthetic beauty is fluid and socially constructed?

oh wow that's truly stupid.

Probably your biggest mistake is equating sexual attraction to "aesthetic beauty".

Sexual attraction can be influenced slightly by cultural trends, but it cannot be constructed in the way that something aesthetically beautiful can.

It's reasonable to think that Rick Owen's and Tatsuro Horikawa's designs are beautiful even though they represent a departure from traditionally beautful clothing.It's unreasonable to think that pic related will ever be attractive to a functioning human being.

>> No.8048676

>>8048428
>It's unreasonable to think that pic related will ever be attractive to a functioning human being.

You are shamefully narrow minded if you really think that.

>> No.8048705

>>8048676
what are you even doing here

>> No.8048765

I'm attracted to chubby girls, but I'm just kind of embarrassed to make moves on them in public because of what people will think. I'm so self-conscious, sigh.

I fucked the shit out of this chubby Bulgarian hooker this week, though. Twice. Fuckin' aye.

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8049144

>Having the decency to not put junk food and other toxic things into your system
>Having the decency to exercise every now and again so that the body can remain functioning properly
>Taking care of your body so that it doesn't go to waste
>Being able to fit into nicer clothes on top of that

I honestly don't understand why people don't see these as better qualities to have in a partner.

I mean, why settle for a person who has proven that they're willing to settle for sub-par body?

>> No.8049172

>>8048368
>>8048368

well played sir. follow them instincts!

>> No.8049192

>>8046139
>lift heavy three times a week
>swim 4-5 times a week
>go on hike just about every weekend
>drink at most once a week, never beyond 6 drinks or so
>don't smoke

I hate every fuck who lets their body atrophy. Skinny and fat.

>> No.8049220

>>8046265
Being a fat ass ad promoting fat asses out of some vague ethical imperative is idiotic when you consider the system that allows fat asses to flourish and perpetuate themselves (i.e. late western capitalism).

These people yelling you go girl about eating a fucking 40 of mcnuggets or buying corn syrup subsidy laden garbage are insane and implicit in the systematic abuses of capitalism.

Try to eat a more ethically sound diet and get to the size these whales get. It's honestly impossible save for some serious mental defect on your part.

>> No.8049240

Prove me wrong, all "curvey" models are just fat chicks with nice faces or faces with a shit ton of makeup.

Id say skinny models are more "real" because there are a lot of ugly looking girls on runways.

>> No.8049660

I've dated bigger girls, but they've also been tall 5'10 and that and they've also had a great looking face and intellect

Basically People are more than a clothing size