/fa/ - Fashion

[Anonymous No.7082113]

What's the most /fa/ tech brand?

[Anonymous No.7082117]

>>7082113
Amarni

[Anonymous No.7082126]

Arc'teryx

[Anonymous No.7082179]

acronym but you cant afford it

[Anonymous No.7082189]

>>7082113
Maharishi

[Anonymous No.7082232]

>>7082189
>Cotton clothing
Hahahaha no.

[Anonymous No.7082245]

>>7082232
>implying everything is cotton.

[Anonymous No.7082269]

bump more options pls

[Anonymous No.7082286]

the only correct answer is acronym. Very high quality tech fabrics, though they lean towards a cyberpunk look. Which is great for me cuz I love cyberpunk.

[Anonymous No.7082331]

Isaora, hands down.

I get pissed at most techwear companies for lazy fabric game, but I just can't at them even though they're objectively worse than a lot of others. Their aesthetic is exactly right for the kind of playful, but tough and capable, engaged, seamless urban-pastoral flopping aesthetic that's at the heart of what I at least want out of techwear.

Pic related is a down jacket, made of translucent nylon, with the down *inside* gradient dyed.

>>7082232
Inorite? At least use hemp; it's stronger and antimicrobal. Supplex. Something.

This also goes for otherwise overwhelmingly awesome stuff in Etaproof, too. Especially from companies whose offerings way overemphasize Gore-Tex hardshells.

Yes, I'm talking about Acronym.

[chuuut !wNPg5rVbf. No.7082333]

>>7082331
Isaora is really starting to turn it on. For a while, I thought they weren't doing anything interesting, but they're really coming into their own, if you ask me.

[Anonymous No.7082344]

>>7082286
>$1000 for a jacket
That's pricey but it comes to be expected
>$700 for a pair of pants
well fuck I dunno if...
>$200 for a t-shirt
well fuck me

[Anonymous No.7082357]

>>7082286
Acronym is great because of the thought and features put into the design. The materials, while good, not trashing them, are underwhelming in comparison.

[Anonymous No.7082433]

>>7082333
>For a while, I thought they weren't doing anything interesting

Really? They weren't really on my radar the first few seasons, but the pieces I have become aware of seem on par with the non-flagshippy pieces from the newer ones.

SS13 was one of my favorite collections from a non-foeted-genius-designer ever.

Just overall, Isaora seems to *get* the good possibilities in contemporary life, culture, and aesthetics, and how clothing can fit with them, better than anyone else.

Errolson is off doing his own too-cute badass thing.

Outlier, for some goddamn reason, still hasn't gotten bored of making stuff that looks like it walked out of a J. Crew, except in great fabrics. And when they do make something a little unconservative - their new sweats, for instance - it often seems half-baked.

Two easy things that would've made them so much better? Add zippers to the pockets (plenty of low rent "travel clothing" brands manage it, why doesn't every pair of tech pants from anyone have them) and use the ripstop merino they wasted on a fucking shirt-jac for something that might actually see some ripping.

Like, the shirt-jac they did was really good, but why did they do it? Who was really jonesing to upgrade a Filson or something for something with ripstop fabric and a cool giant stash pocket?

Or save the ripstop merino for the hoody they released with the pants, which is pretty close to perfect in its design?

[Anonymous No.7082488]

>>7082433
>>7082433
>Errolson is off doing his own too-cute badass thing.

And, by the way, I'm being harsh here again, but Errolson is objectively the best designer of any of these guys. He's doing his thing, which is great, but not as exciting to the rest of us as something so in sync as Isaora. That's what I'm saying here.

[Anonymous No.7082514]

>>7082488
And I forgot about this, somehow. Outlier does sometimes hit it all the way out of the park - their bomber is probably the best version of the type anyone has ever done.

[Anonymous No.7083694]

TNF

[Anonymous No.7083705]

Gotta go with Acronym or Isaora

[/fa/scist faggot !!ovdI0id3NeK No.7083708]

>>7082514

I think these are all brands trying to do very different things.

ACRONYM is about overt functionality and very exhaustive pattern-cutting.

ISAORA is about technical details applied to modern, contemporary clothing.

Outlier is about making discrete, straightforward clothing that surprises with its performance aspects.

I'm sure there's crossover in their clientele, but I'd say people go to each for different items.

[Anonymous No.7083716]

>>7082179
This.

[trunks !!SE08Bv/gZZR No.7083726]

>>7082286
agreed

plus their shit is patented so you cant find it anywhere else either

u know all the plebs taht say "if im gonna drop a stack on a jacket it better have a magnet collar and gravity pockets xDxDxDDD"

acronym actually has this shit

[Anonymous No.7083733]

>>7082286
tfw you want to put together a decent cyberpunk wardrobe but the only leathers with futuristic cuts are goofninja brands that cost even more than ACR

[tsundere !!X8EESmUbjlY No.7083749]

Ahh how could you guys not mention Aitor Throup when he just dropped his 2013 shit?

Pretty unattainable though...

[Anonymous No.7083880]

My vote goes to Acronym.

Also I'm loving the new Isaora shell.

>WE PUT KEVLAR IN IT

I wish I could afford it...

[Anonymous No.7084027]

No love for Arc'teryx here?

[Anonymous No.7084044]

>>7082331
>Pic related is a down jacket, made of translucent nylon, with the down *inside* gradient dyed.
That's awesome. I wonder what it looks like after a few years.

[/fa/scist faggot !!ovdI0id3NeK No.7084150]

>>7084027

Veilance is better than Arcteryx, but I think there's overall a little less style to the line-up than what other posters have been discussing.

[Anonymous No.7084169]

>>7084150
Isn't it made by them? It's the Lexus to their Toyota isn't it?

[Anonymous No.7084344]

nobody rates stone island?

[banana No.7084349]

>>7084344
its good

[Anonymous No.7084406]

>>7082189
I stupidly bought a parka from them, shit isn't even waterproof.

[Junior Watanabe !CommeVgIrU No.7084488]

Personally, I'm going to say White Mountaineering, even though they use the most run-of-the-mill technical fabrics (goretex, windstopper, pertex), I still really love Yosuke Aizawa's take on vintage mountaineering wear with an emphasis on the use of technical fabrics and utilitarian design.
Is Nigel Cabourn techwear? I love his stuff, and his construction is top notch - I guess his focus on vintage militaria and outdoorswear, with an emphasis on original technical fabrics (ventile, drill cotton, mackintosh-bonded cotton, etc) makes him sort of a heritage, technically obsolete version of say Stone Island or CP Company.
For me, the line between SISP and the mainline is becoming more and more blurred, but I think anyone can appreciate what Hugh is doing with Acronym.

[Anonymous No.7084779]

>tech wear thread
>not mentioning "bench clothing"

are you even trying /fa/?!?

[Anorak !!xPyeSRsxKUQ No.7085083]

>>7082344

ACR's prices are way out of whack because of the size of their company, which is fucking tiny. They're not receiving any of the benefits of larger companies that specialize. With an economy of scale usually something like t-shirts will be your cheapest product but when you're doing boutique manufacturing like ACR that's not the case. The jackets and bags are actually the most sanely priced because the jackets are their largest product by numbers and so they get more discounts on manufacturing and fabric buying. The bags are handled by another company entirely that makes nothing but bags so their whole company is structured around such and that heavily reduces costs. If ACR was to do the bags themselves they would likely cost 2-3 times what they do now. Stuff like the pants and t-shirts (especially the t-shirts) are their smallest runs. They're going to factories that typically fill orders for 10+ times what ACR is asking. Likewise when they buy the fabric for something like the t-shirts. I wouldn't be surprised if they were paying close to retail for the fabric and labour on the t-shirts because the runs are so insanely small, no one wants to take time out of their day to deal with a company of their size and most people would actually lose money on an ACR deal if they didn't charge them huge premiums to make up for the order sizes. Think about how much overhead there is at a factory to turn the heating and lights on and to get everyone to come in to work to make what like 50 t-shirts, when they normally fill orders of something like 500 minimum. The other big factor here is the complexity of manufacturing ACR product which is by no means typical. They've had QC issues in the past because the factories they've worked with seriously can't wrap their heads around some of the ways Errolson wants things done.

[Anorak !!xPyeSRsxKUQ No.7085090]

So now not only are they going to these factories with tiny orders but they're incredibly complex too and take much longer to finish than the orders of all the much larger companies. The only way they don't get turned away at the door is by forking over tons of money to make up for all this. That cost then gets passed onto the customer but there's really no other way to do it.

But this is also the reason why they're the best. Anyone in this thread saying anything but ACR hasn't properly examined all the product out there. Although for pure functionality Arc'teryx is the alpha and the omega but stylistically they're by no means pushing the envelope in any way shape or form. At the end of the day there's only one thing they're interested in and that's making their gear a little bit warmer, a little bit dryer, last a little bit longer, it's been this really slow sort of evolution. Arc'teryx is like an apex predator, it has one function (functionality) and has evolved to be the absolute best at it. This is where Veilance comes in but they're nowhere near the level that ACR is it. In a lot of cases it's just Arc'teryx mainline without the branding. It's nice but it's light years away from Errolson who is at the absolute forefront of mixing fashion and functionality.

>>7082331

Yeah you don't know shit about anything. Isaora is the all saints of techwear. Taking concepts and ideas developed by companies a hundred times more innovative and doing a watered down mass market version. Everything about them screams rip off. I guarantee their R&D is next to none. I hope you realize that goose down treatment was NOT developed in house. I don't understand how you can look at someone like CP Company who has actually invented fabrics (hundreds of them) on their own dime and then say they're inferior to someone who shops premier vision. What a complete joke. This brand is so middle of the road it hurts. It's so fucking safe it makes me want to puke.

[Anorak !!xPyeSRsxKUQ No.7085094]

It's techwear that's inherently anti-techwear. I don't understand how someone who cares about all the little details would end up with Isaora product in hand. Outlier is a great example of a company that is targeting a lower price point but is still doing real R&D, they still have their own angle. What the fuck does Isaora have? If you want pure functionality you wont beat Arc'teryx, so where does Isaora stand? All I see is really half ass imitations of innovative work taken from somewhere else. Not to mention you want to talk about fabric, ACR had Loro Piana this season. What the fuck is that coat you linked? "from Italy" pro-tip that's like saying an antique chair is "from Europe" it means fucking nothing besides the fact that it's likely some generic mass produced fabric that has no name or accountability behind it. You want to talk about fabric, NONE of the brands mentioned in this thread are on the same level as companies like Moncler or the Branta line from Canada Goose as far as pure quality goes. These guys aren't working with real fabric innovators like Schoeller, Eschler, Stotz, Limonta, Loro Piana, et al. and they aren't developing anything in house like CP Company / Stone Island, Arc'teryx, Canada Goose, etc. So what the fuck do they have? Fucking generic ripstop that's "from Italy".

I'm by no means a price snob but this is very obviously a case of people latching onto something for accessibility and then convincing themselves that it's the best because it has "the best price". Lacklustre functionality, lacklustre style, it's filling a price point gap and nothing else. I hate this kind of stuff.

[cosmicbutts !!qblBZSgYzBX No.7085095]

arcteryx is amazing

if I had a need for tech outerwear, i'd save up for it tbh

[Anonymous No.7085100]

>>7085090
Errolson did a lot of (if not all) Veilance designs, IIRC. Also, very informative posts.

[Junior Watanabe !CommeVgIrU No.7085106]

>>7085090
>Anyone in this thread saying anything but ACR hasn't properly examined all the product out there
Or, while they appreciate the innovation that Errolson has always pushed for, they're not really a fan of Acronym's styling.
I'm not going to argue, every Acronym piece I've handled is absolutely flawless in terms of construction and design, as you said, leagues above a lot of their contemporaries, even the lines designed by Hugh like SISP and Veliance, but I just prefer what Yosuke is doing with White Mountaineering.

[Anorak !!xPyeSRsxKUQ No.7085128]

>>7085100

What? No... Veilance has been developed entirely by Conroy Nachtigall, it's 100% him. He was brought on when Arc'teryx started pre-development of the line. He just wanted to design it on contract for them but they said they either hire him full time or nothing. So it's been him right from day 0, before the line even existed he helped lay the framework and build the team for it. I have no clue where you got the idea that Errolson had anything to do with it. Maybe because he's Canadian as well and designs two other techwear lines on contract (Stone Island: Shadow Project & Herno Laminar) but no he has nothing to do with Veilance.

[Anonymous No.7085134]

>>7085128
Disregard that, I got Veilance confused with SISP.

[Junior Watanabe !CommeVgIrU No.7085135]

>>7085106
Oops, meant HL, not Veilance

I still really like Nigel Cabourn, even if he doesn't fall within the current spectrum of techwear due to the obsolescence of most of the fabrics he uses, but fantastic construction and design

[Anonymous No.7085203]

How about Triple Aught Design?

[Anonymous No.7085211]

>>7085083
>>7085090
>>7085094
>>7085128

Wow where the hell do you learn all of this stuff man?

[Anonymous No.7085227]

>>7085211
The first post was really just understanding basics of business management, economy of size and making inferences based on the prices of what was listed. The rest I guess is all industry information that you could probably get from a Google search.

[Junior Watanabe !CommeVgIrU No.7085257]

>>7085211
Almost all of that was a really loquacious way of phrasing pretty well-known information that you could find on most websites, such as superfuture

[Anonymous No.7085321]

this is exactly what I've been wanting for so long and it's 98 cunting pounds

[Anonymous No.7085330]

>>7085321
>neoprene neckwarmer

seriously bro? literally any hunting supply catalogue

[Anonymous No.7085336]

>>7085330

>neck gaiter

[Anonymous No.7085348]

>>7085321
http://www.trekitt.co.uk/arcteryx-phase-ar-neck-gaitor-black.ir?cName=all-brands-arcteryx&src=froogle&gclid=CM38x56tnboCFRMdtAodVDAAEQ

[Anonymous No.7085359]

>>7085321
theres a solid black on for like 12 bucks on sierra trading post

[Anonymous No.7085389]

>>7085321
Yes. Good goy. Focus on your fashion and loose sense of the outside world's perception of functional clothing. Shoes NEED to be 400 dollars.

[Anonymous No.7085410]

>>7085203
fuck yes. the stealth and ranger hoodies are some of the most bootlegged jackets in existence.

i love my chinese knockoff rothco copy, simply because how shitty they treat people who try to buy from them on the phone and internet.

and those glow in the dark morale patches they sell are fucking insanely expensive.

some of the stuff from the tactcal mall ninja crowd has is pretty techwearish.

[poet !!ZKnqTt5WCG6 No.7085411]

>>7085389
I deeply pity people like you.
This is coming from a christian.

[Anonymous No.7085414]

>>7085389
12 dollars?

why would you need 5 dollar shoes?

put those back hershel.

[trunks !!SE08Bv/gZZR No.7085417]

>>7085411
hey poet, i found a good deal on some waxed rick jeans, but theyre a couple inches too big in the waist. will they still work as long as i wear a belt?

[poet !!ZKnqTt5WCG6 No.7085420]

>>7085417
depends on how big they are. You dont want bunching.
Adderall admiral is selling darkshadow jeans at 30" waist. I suggest those. He's asking 100$ and that's a pittance.

[Anonymous No.7085441]

What about Patagonia, guys?

[trunks !!SE08Bv/gZZR No.7085445]

>>7085420
they are 17.5" across. i have a pair of levis (tagged as 32) that have somehow stretched out to 19" (???), they dont even come close to staying up on their own but they dont bunch either. does that mean im good? the levis are 98% cotton, the ricks are 100% cotton if that makes a difference

[Anonymous No.7085888]

>>7085090
You're missing what I'm saying. "Innovative" didn't appear anywhere in my post; I *don't* know shit compared to you and I can tell a lot of what Isaora does is derivative. But you know? I don't care. This is my grounds for liking them:

>Their aesthetic is exactly right for the kind of playful, but tough and capable, engaged, seamless urban-pastoral flopping aesthetic that's at the heart of what I at least want out of techwear.
>Just overall, Isaora seems to *get* the good possibilities in contemporary life, culture, and aesthetics, and how clothing can fit with them, better than anyone else.

If you can point me to someone else with a similar aesthetic that's better, I'd be genuinely grateful.

I haven't handled CP company, but I haven't seen any reason to. Maybe there's something really cool about the PBT they wove in that I'm missing, but I look at stuff like this and I see the most boring old traditional zip wool sweater PLUS GOGGLES.

>the whole from Italy rant

Yeah, I never said anything about provenance either.

One thing I would like to know? Why *do* so many techwear companies use so much cotton when it seems inferior to everything else out there?

[Anonymous No.7085919]

I love Outlier because I think it's the easiest to wear daily and it doesn't come in "mostly black"

[Σ▼ƦƟ/ƒ▲/Ğ No.7085948]

Not the most /fa/ but worth mentioning:

[Anonymous No.7086016]

Got a couple of these from that sale on Jackthreads a little while ago. Not the most techy techware, but a nifty hoodie especially for layering. I like the lines it creates when the gaiter is both up and down.

[Anonymous No.7086018]

>>7085411
btw im a christian XD

[Anonymous No.7086029]

>>7085948

After seeing this vid so many years ago i could never wear that brand again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOYV22kxmoc

[Anonymous No.7086034]

>>7086029
stone island is quite famously worn by hooligans and such u know

[Anonymous No.7086036]

Thinking of putting together a casual tech wardrobe for cold rainy Scotland

This is what I've got so far, what do you think? What could I add? Outer jacket? Boots? Maybe mix up the colours a little?

It's a Uniqlo merino polo, Outlier wool vest and OG's.

[Anonymous No.7086046]

>>7086036
gray on gray is ugly imo
get a hardshell too if you can fit it into the budget
what shoes are you thinking?

[Anonymous No.7086048]

>>7086036
something waterproof?

[Anonymous No.7086058]

>>7086046
I was thinking that, maybe switch something to black or blue?

This is my dream shell, the Arc'teryx Veilance white gore-tex jacket but it's hard to find.

[Anonymous No.7086063]

>>7086046
I was thinking that, maybe switch something to black or blue?

This is my dream shell, the Arc'teryx Veilance white gore-tex jacket but it's hard to find.

[Junior Watanabe !CommeVgIrU No.7086067]

>>7086036
Swap out the outlier wool vest for a White Mountaineering piece - they have down-filled, goretex-lined vests that would be perfect insulation for rainy weather.
Also get a waterproof jacket - look at White Mountaineering and Arc'teryx Veilance
If you're just in a drizzle, weatherproof is ok, but if you're caught in decent rain, you'll want something weatherproof. Goretex is still seen as the best, but that's mostly to strong licensing - look into alternative technical fabrics used by a multitude of techwear manufactureres like SISP
For footwear, look into norwegian welted boots - a lot of hiking boots use this, as it's easily the most waterproof welt, far more than goodyear.
Reminds me that I need a new pair of hiking boots

[Anonymous No.7086069]

>>7086063
Thinking of Diemme boots too

[Junior Watanabe !CommeVgIrU No.7086075]

>>7086067
>>7086036
Also, no personal experience with the outlier stuff, but my friend has OGs and Slim Dungarees, he says they just bead up water and that a decent amount of water soaks through - they're more water-repellent than waterproof.
I'm still on the search for a good pair of waterproof, or at least significantly water-repellent pair of trousers, and I don't have 9 bills to drop on Acronym

[Anonymous No.7086080]

>>7086063
>hard to find
found it
>http://item.rakuten.co.jp/iroha-shop/410215617081/
large tho

[Anonymous No.7086102]

>>7086075
I'll take repellent, at the moment my only pants are jeans and they just hoover up water when I'm on my scooter

[Anonymous No.7086331]

>>7086046
>>7086067
>>7086075

Going to put in a firm vote for softshells over hardshells. They work just fine for any not-stupid rain I've been in, and they breathe so much better. How often do you spend four hours under ceaseless heavy rain in a city?

And I've heard that the reason so many of the manufacturers of alternatives to Gore-style hardshells are based in Britain is that they're even more better suited to the climate there than most places. Could be BS; IDK.

[Junior Watanabe !CommeVgIrU No.7086337]

>>7086331
I've been stuck in the rain for a good 3 or so hours in my goretex shell, cause I use it for hiking
Yeah, like I said, if you're just in the drizzle or in the rain for less than a few minutes, I'd definitely say a soft-shell is enough.

[Σ▼ƦƟ/ƒ▲/Ğ No.7086353]

>>7086337
What are some decent brands or models for an insulator layer.

Preferably something under the 2/250 mark.
Wouldn't something fleece suffice?

[blue !QEpC8ygEQM No.7086366]

>ctrl+f isaora
>0 results

you people disgust me

[/fa/scist faggot !!ovdI0id3NeK No.7086379]

>>7086353

Definitely. ISAORA just released a more price-conscious line if fleece, merino, and cotton base layers that might interest you. Otherwise, consider something with down/Primaloft.

[Σ▼ƦƟ/ƒ▲/Ğ No.7086391]

>>7086379
Cheers mate, ill look into it.

[Junior Watanabe !CommeVgIrU No.7086389]

>>7086353
tbh I just use a cheap uniqlo fleece, and it certainly does the job. I mostly hike in warmer climates, but when I need a decent mid-layer for insulation, it definitely suffices.
I was looking at some fleeces from Beams Plus and Battenwear that look stellar, perhaps give those two a look

[Anonymous No.7086777]

>>7086366
Is your browser retarded? Isaora was mentioned at least a dozen times previously in this thread.

[Anonymous No.7086842]

>>7086337
Hiking it depends on conditions, but yeah. There's a place for hardshells. But for "I live in a rainy place and need rainwear," I think a softshell is definitely going to be better.

>>7086379
I'm the big Isaora fan up thread and it's one of the few pieces I wouldn't suggest for much. It looks heavy for a midlayer and there's no mention of the fabric composition beyond "fleece," which is a bad sign.

Also, I think the proportions and size of the nylon rain paneling looks awkward, especially with the fuzziness of it.

Making recommendations here is a bit hard, because pretty much anything thick will at least keep you warm if the rest of your system is up to snuff. And because we don't know what kind of climate or activity it's going to go with. Or what kind of look you want. Tell us more?

Also,

http://dressed-down.com/blog/2013/5/15/intro-to-techwear-pt-3-brand-list

Big brand list.

[Anonymous No.7086872]

>>7086842
And looking at the Isaora fleece up close, it doesn't seem to have a drawcord waist or velcro cuffs, two very useful things.

[Anonymous No.7088983]

What does tech-effay wear as their base layer?

[meta !p8hO9X589g No.7088998]

>>7088983

Merino tees from Ibex, Smartwool, Arc'teryx and Rapha.

[Anonymous No.7089027]

Is Arc'teryx going to be the best place to grab a techwear parka? Need something for 30 and below weather (F).

[cosmicbutts !!qblBZSgYzBX No.7089031]

>>7089027

pretty much

[Anonymous No.7089043]

>>7089031
Any specific suggestions? Probably going to snag something with primaloft - have you checked out Aether?

[cosmicbutts !!qblBZSgYzBX No.7089056]

>>7089043

i wish I could say i've handled arc'teryx lol

[Anonymous No.7089075]

>>7089043
>primaloft
>not superior goose down
Jesus, what is with you people? You talk about all these techwear specs and you don't even recognize down's superior loft and insulation for its weight?

[Anonymous No.7089082]

>>7089075
Fair enough - I was considering a Canada Goose, too, but it's not really techwear.

[trunks !!SE08Bv/gZZR No.7089088]

>>7089082
m8 its designed for arctic expeditions

just cause it doesnt have gravity pockets doesnt mean its not a nice jacket

whats ur definition of techwear?

[/fa/scist faggot !!ovdI0id3NeK No.7089100]

>>7089075

I think people choose Primaloft and other down substitutes specifically because they don't want down. They're probably looking at factors outside of just fill power like insulation when wet and cost.

[Anonymous No.7089102]

>>7089088
I guess more due to the fact that it doesn't seem like it would have a whole lot of mobility.

[Anonymous No.7089114]

>>7089100
Down also has quite a bit more "puffiness."

[Anonymous No.7089129]

>>7089102
Hate to break it to you, but it Swedish winter, you're not really going to have a whole lot of mobility regardless of what you're wearing.

[Anonymous No.7089135]

>>7089082
If you're going to get down, get a Marmot. They're universally recognized as the king of down.

[Anonymous No.7089149]

>>7089135
Yeah, but they literally have nothing interesting.

[Anonymous No.7089174]

Is Salomon effay?

[Anonymous No.7089183]

>>7089149
It's not supposed to be interesting. It's supposed to be functional. Their ultralight down jacket is particularly useful, it's only 8 oz which is great when you're on the AT in either fall or winter.

[Anonymous No.7089194]

>>7089183
Besides, down jackets are supposed to function as an insulating layer, usually a rain jacket or a hardshell goes over it.

[Anonymous No.7089199]

>>7089183
I don't even see what you're pointing at

[Anonymous No.7089208]

>>7088998
Other companies with good wool baselayers:

- Icebreaker, probably the most basic. Visible branding on most of them. They made a now-discontinued cheaper version called Red Ram with no visible branding, and a lighter fabric and looser fit. You can pick them up really cheap ($30-something) still on Sierra Trading Post. Highly recommended, actually - I like them better than the standard Icebreaker I have.

- Isaora, henleys and crews, crews with a rounded hem in the mainline, the rest in the new io diffusion line.

- Outlier, a henley, and then a bog standard cut crew.

- Finisterre, henleys and crews. A British surfing brand, which looks exactly like you'd think that would look.

- Patagonia has a large, diverse lineup of Merino/Poly blend baselayers, the poly in there for faster drying and durability, and they're antimicrobal treated. Some really nice colorways, too.

- Mission Workshop has a crew, henley, and hooded pullover.

- Nau makes a very nice hooded pullover and polo in a 50/50 merino/Tencel blend.

Personally, the only time I'll switch to a synthetic base is either in winter when I'll be getting it wet and needing it to dry fast - working up a sweat in winter and then staying outdoors, or getting it wet in the summer at the beach. And there I just use standard Patagonia Capilene.

>>7089075
Yeah, but then there's the whole "worth shit when wet" thing.

Also, I forget what brand and specific type it was, but there's some synthetic that supposedly finally beat down.

>>7089027
It's all on aesthetics, to be honest. Check Marmot, too - they get lost behind Patagonia, Arc'Teryx, and TNF, but they're also really good. Usually cleaner designs than Patagonia.

[Anonymous No.7089213]

>>7089194
...uh what?

[Anonymous No.7089265]

>>7089149
Define "interesting." This certainly looks better than any of, say, Patagonia's down jackets, and has their excellent "Angel Wing" sleeve construction.

>>7089194
Except why put on more layers than you have to? If you can run with a base and one other layer that's both waterproof / resistant and insulated, why not?

[Anonymous No.7089280]

>>7089265
I'm not a fan of the quilted pattern. I didn't see that on the site, though.

[Anonymous No.7089284]

>>7089265
Also, looking for a parka.

[/fa/scist faggot !!ovdI0id3NeK No.7089355]

>>7089208
>Also, I forget what brand and specific type it was, but there's some synthetic that supposedly finally beat down.

I'd be very surprised by this. High quality goose down is one of the most powerful insulators out there. Maybe asbestos?

[Anonymous No.7089386]

>>7089280
Well, what else are you looking for, besides a hood and minimal baffling? A hard or a soft outer? What kind of styling? Other features? Are you going to be using a midlayer of any kind? Price range?

I mean, a "techwear parka... for 30 and below weather (F)" is about as broad a category as you can get. =

>>7089355
Yeah, I don't know, either, and I'm pretty sure I saw it in some marketing copy, so who knows how they were measuring it.

And I think it was explicitly claiming relative to like 700 or so fill, not the 900 fill stuff out there.

[Anonymous No.7089415]

>>7089386
Hard outer, waterproof - hood would be nice, but not required. No midlayer, other than maybe an occasional sweater, but would like something that doesn't need the layer from 0-30F

Honestly, I'm digging the canada goose and probably set on that one.
Below $800.

[Anonymous No.7089537]

>>7089265
>Except why put on more layers than you have to? If you can run with a base and one other layer that's both waterproof / resistant and insulated, why not?
Because believe it or not, that single layer is going to run you a heavier weight than a two layer setup.

Marmot's waterproof Mountain down jacket is 2 lbs 4 oz which would be heavier than a Marmot UL down jacket and an Ascension rain jacket that runs a net weight of 1 lb 8 oz.

[Anonymous No.7089569]

>>7089537
Heck, you could shave even more of that weight. Replace the Ascension with either an Aegis or PreCip rain jacket and you could cut 3 to 5 oz respectively.

[Anonymous No.7089907]

>>7084488
>WhiteMountaineering
>300$
Damn those shorts are dope

[Anonymous No.7091380]

>>7089537
I've never really gotten the point of crazy ultralight stuff. What is twelve to seventeen ounces on a ~2400 ounce body? I'd rather take simplicity, ease of movement, and (yes) a sleeker look.

[Anonymous No.7093552]

Are there any nice hats in this department?

Something in the realm of keeping my head and ears warm but I can keep it in a pocket when not needed?

[Anonymous No.7093716]

>>7093552
Any relatively light wool beanie?

[Anonymous No.7093934]

>>7091380
When you take trips on long expeditions and you're planning on what to bring in your backpack, you start to think in ounces rather than pounds, hell, some people measure in grams, but I think that's going a little too far. A common motto in the ultralight business is that an ounce in the pack is a pound on the back which really becomes true when you start to hike intense and long terrain.

[meta !p8hO9X589g No.7093959]

Hey tech heads, I'm putting together a tech fit for the winter. What should I cop for a mid layer? Reigning Champ? Nike Techpack? Something merino?

Pic = the rest of the fit, for reference.

[banana No.7093974]

>>7093959
>Reigning Champ?
noooooo

cotton won't wick well {8*|

[meta !p8hO9X589g No.7093982]

>>7093974

Yeah, leaning towards merino or maybe some technical wizard-cloth I haven't heard of.

This Mission Workshop Merino hoodie is def causing my loins to stir

[Anonymous No.7094136]

>>7093982
>some technical wizard-cloth I haven't heard of
Polyester will do just fine, dude. For your mid layer just get an Arc'teryx fleece or softshell.

[banana No.7094145]

>>7093982
>>7094136
ya polartec looks nice but you end up looking luke fuzzy wuzzy with zippers

merino hoodie sounds r8 tho i just don't like the shin look they have but its prob not a biggie

[Anonymous No.7094161]

>>7093959
w2c coat?

[Anonymous No.7094184]

>>7093934
Yeah, I just don't see it. Maybe it's because I'm young and used to it, but as long as my pack feels right when I put it on, I feel fine. I'd rather optimize everything else.

I like a lot of gear that comes out of ultralightism, but as an approach it just seems narrow in its concerns. But whatever works for you.

>>7093959
What are the pants and shirt? I'd make sure the shirt's merino, throw on some merino leggings under the pants (depending on material, but they look like not terribly thick cotton), and find a sweater without a hood you like. Doubling up a hood under another higher hooded layer always looks and feels weird to me.

>>7093982
Do you know anything about that filament stretch nylon wizardry they're talking about with it? Is it technobabble for a merino-nylon blend or is there actually something special to it?

I hate technical clothing companies that don't give fabric compositions.

>>7094145
Plenty of fleece that doesn't look like fake fur out there. There's also tons of fleeces with hardshell or softshell faces.

[meta !p8hO9X589g No.7094185]

>>7094161

http://www.isaora.com/#/collections/fw2012/products/tech-2-l-riding-anorak

Still on sale.

[Anonymous No.7094192]

>>7094161
A/W 12 Isaora.

http://www.isaora.com/#/collections/fw2012/products/tech-2-l-riding-anorak

On the deepest clearance I've ever seen anything.

[meta !p8hO9X589g No.7094218]

>>7094184

Sounds like it's just a weave of nylon and merino. Makes sense because merino isn't naturally that shiny.

I can't vouch for Mission Workshop's garment construction but I've had their Vandal backpack for years and it looks brand new. They make stuff for bike messengers so it should hold up pretty well to physical stresses.

[meta !p8hO9X589g No.7094253]

>>7094184

Pants are Maharishi:
http://www.maharishistore.com/product/Maharishi_2007LONGSKINNYMACARGOPANTS_1712_20_394_0.html

Shirt is BLK DNM.

[banana No.7094258]

>>7094184
>Plenty of fleece that doesn't look like fake fur out there.
ya ik but a lot of em do

[Anonymous No.7094310]

>>7093959

seen these?

http://storeroom.nicecollective.com/en/product/skinny-cargo-black-s13-6009.html

I've got that backpack btw. thinking about copping that jacket too but not sure.

[Anonymous No.7094317]

>>7094218
Yeah, I'm sure the construction's fine, it's just their copy makes it sound like something more impressive than a standard merino-nylon blend, and I'm hoping it's not BS.

What're you liking so much about the BLK DNM tee? What's the material? And why a short sleeve for winter?

[Anonymous No.7094319]

>>7094310
See, these are nice, but when I see pants like this I always wonder what makes someone decide to put one single cargo pocket on one leg and leave the other entirely alone. Like, what's the logic?

[Anonymous No.7094332]

>>7094319

there's actually a pocket on the back of the other leg. I think it's just an imitation of some specific kind of pocket because it has a scissors holder too. like for trauma shears.

[meta !p8hO9X589g No.7094329]

>>7094317

I copped a couple BLK DNM tees on sale, it's a solid tee that just happens to fit me really well, but honestly the base layer could be any of a number of tees I've been wearing lately, e.g. Nike Dri-fit running tee, Rapha merino crew, Smartwool mid-weight crew.

[Anonymous No.7094371]

Need more clothing brands that are not too known but have nice clothes, preferably nothing dadcore or gothninja.
Here are some examples of what I mean:

http://www.secret-store.co.uk/
http://www.webstore.akomplice-clothing.com/
http://corruptyouthclothing.bigcartel.com/
http://actualpain.myshopify.com/

Pic semi-related

[Anonymous No.7094534]

>>7094329
Okay, I was thinking too hard about that as a single cohesive outfit.

What kind of aesthetic and tonal notes are you trying to hit?

>>7094332
Okay, but then, if I was an EMT, I'd want a pocket on the other leg that did something else.

Pocket on the back is just silly, I think.

[Anonymous No.7094561]

>>7094534
Pockets are fussy and get caught on things. If you only need one, you should only have one. Also, asymmetry makes it easier to remember where stuff is.

[Anonymous No.7094574]

>>7094561
I've got to disagree. I've never had a well-designed pocket, or one that didn't pleat outwards, get caught on something, and I just have a mental system for where stuff goes. Notebook, pen, phone in the left pants pocket; money, metrocard, passport, SAK, keys in the right.

But whatever works for you.

[meta !p8hO9X589g No.7094895]

>>7094534

Aesthetically I'm going for a hooligan x techninja look. The midlayer isn't going the be the centerpiece of the outfit - the boots are (hopefully). But I want to take them out of a military context and show them off as a technical piece. So, the midlayer can really be anything functional. I live in Portland so something light and moisture-wicking would be perfect. If I construct this fit right I'll be able to use it for everything from walking to the cafe to moderate hiking in the rain.

[Anonymous No.7094922]

>>7094371
*tips fedora*