[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/fa/ - Fashion

View post   
File: 125 KB, 510x367, vans.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6417300 No.6417300 [Reply] [Original]

Why does /fa/ hate Vans?

I want to get these but I don't want to be a pleb.

>> No.6417308

>>6417300
because they're mall-rat tier

Go ahead and buy them just don't come on here looking for validation.

>> No.6417325

>>6417308
Ok I guess I wasn't meant for the /fa/ lifestyle

>> No.6417328

>>6417325
I look up to you.

>> No.6417338

>>6417328
Don't

>> No.6417340

Because every time i go to uni I see about 1000 plebs wearing them
Clothing CAN become overpopular

>> No.6417354

>>6417340
What could I get that looks similar but is a less pleb brand?

>> No.6417359

>>6417340
yes
just how i see mcdonalds as the modern worlds food provider for the masses i see vans as the shoe provider for the masses

its funny how low quality has changed and shaped peoples definitions of what clothing should cost

its illogical that the lowest prices = greatest value but yet people follow that

its no problem to me, but when they begin with "you spent how much?!" im like l8r sk8r!

-nat simons

>> No.6417448

fuck what /fa/ says. Vans Syndicates are pretty dope and everyone should own at least one pair of torn to shit authentics.

>> No.6417461
File: 125 KB, 500x710, hn-zanessa-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6417461

>not being a member of the blue vans club

>> No.6417465

>>6417300
because they're cheap and overworn and shit quality and ugly.

>> No.6417470

this is how I see Vans

I see people owning literally like 10 pairs of vans, each usually the same model in different colorways

they never stop to think "hmm, maybe I should start wearing something else"

they're gonna wear vans for the rest of their lives prolly

sad

>> No.6417490

If you are going to get high top vans, get a pair of OTW Alomars with a stitched sole. At least that way the quality will be better.

>> No.6417505

>>6417325
You kind of sound like a bitch. Just dress how you want to.

>> No.6417572
File: 31 KB, 600x616, _5001424.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6417572

Don't wanna start a new thread and didn't see the fuccboi thread so posting here.

Is this stupid fucking logo removable? Like with a seam ripper or something. Gonna cop if so

>> No.6417579

>Cheap
>Overworn
>shit quality
>THEY DON'T LOOK GOOD

you fuccbois will never learn.

>> No.6417581

>>6417572
you do know there are many places where you can buy chuck style shoes with no logo... try topman

>> No.6417589

>>6417581

Deez were on sale :/ will do though thanks

>> No.6417588

>>6417579
whats a fuccboi

>> No.6417594

>>6417588
whats a whats

>> No.6417602

>>6417588
goodbye /fa/ see you around september

>> No.6417614

>>6417588
They usually dress like dadcore and gothninja

>> No.6417628

>>6417614
I like gothninja

>> No.6417712

>>6417490

what do you mean with stitched sole?

>> No.6417717
File: 26 KB, 480x298, cupsole.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6417717

>>6417712

it's called a cupsole

indicative of higher quality (usually)

>> No.6417760
File: 437 KB, 1278x1920, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6417760

Realize a large block of /fa/'s userbase are insecure fuccbois, who think that if they just hew to the most strict and rejectionist conception of style then people will think they look good and like them. And when that doesn't happen, psh, whatever, they can walk away massaging their ego by murmuring "pleb" to themselves.

So if it's in a mall, if the materials are pedestrian, if it costs about what a randomly sampled American will pay for that category of item (but not to much, gaiz, I'm a student, how do I Raf Simons Rick Owens) then not only will /fa/ not wear it, they'll reject the possibility of anyone else wearing it and looking good.

In an interview once, Nick Wooster said his go-to shoes were checkered vans, that he had worn them for decades, always replacing them when they had worn out, and that just recently, after thirty years of stunting in them, he had picked up a leather pair... in addition to the trusty canvas reliables.

Now watch someone call him a dadcore pleb and rag on him for where he's got a huge contract.

>> No.6417768

>>6417465
/thread

>> No.6417776

>>6417760

/thread

>> No.6417782

>>6417760
>if it costs about what a randomly sampled American will pay for that category of item (but not to much, gaiz, I'm a student, how do I Raf Simons Rick Owens)
nice B)

>> No.6417792

I'd like to know what canvas sneakers are /fa/ but won't break the bank. Even what's classified as midtier in the sticky is like >$200. Way too much for my poor-student ass.

Same with shirts. $120 for chambray is outta my budget.

How do you guys afford this stuff?

>> No.6417796

>>6417760
See
>>6417359

>> No.6417808

>>6417760
who is Nick Wooster? the outfit he's wearing is shit. I hope nobody takes you serious because you name dropped him, and used the fact that he wears ugly shoes made by chinese children to validate your own opinion

>> No.6417810

>>6417760
>implying Wooster isn't massively overrated

>> No.6417817
File: 113 KB, 518x777, GARCONSTYLEBLOGMENSFASHIONWAYFARERSTREETSTYLESUNGLASSESQUILTEDDENIMJACKETSHIRTBLACKDENIMBURGUNDYVANSSNEAKERS[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6417817

Cheap, classic, basic sneakers; basic colors look clean and I think why theyre so popular is that you can beat them up and it'll be no problem, also lots of colors.

If you want to streetwear! it's so hard to fuck up with Vans.

>> No.6417838

>>6417792
I wish to know this as well.
I know that, subconsciously, we associate "good" with "expensive", but honestly. Lower prices sneakers all look like shit for the most part. Common Projects make decent looking shoes, my only beef being the ridiculous numbers on the shoe they use to identify their brand. Still better than >>6417572

>> No.6417851
File: 84 KB, 570x416, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6417851

>>6417782
>>6417776

Thanks.

>>6417792
Whatever ones fit your style. Vans, Converse, Ked's, a pair you picked up from a thrift store that are Wal*Mart brand, anything.

Personally, I like Feiyue (the actual Chinese ones, not the IIRC French company licensing the name and basic design), just for the function - they're made as martial arts shoes, so the soles are thinner and more flexible, closer to barefoot, which I like. If it wasn't for that, I'd probably just go with black on black Converse.

Shirts are all over the place - thrift, shop clearance, eBay, find a cheap tailor. Buy quality. Don't buy anything new or not priced-like-used if it's not something you truly love. And focus your wardrobe: don't buy shit you don't really want to wear or have stuff to wear it with.

There's a whole thread about how people make money up now, like always.

>>6417796
>mfw

Come the fuck on; that's exactly the kind of shit I'm talking about.

>>6417808
>>6417810

Called it!

>> No.6417855
File: 5 KB, 306x390, 44511840TO_11_f[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6417855

>>6417838
200 euro for this shoe that looks exactly like a Vans slip-on

no thanks

>> No.6417872

>>6417855
well, how it looks does not always equate to quality.
"fast-fashion" comes to mind with vans. They don't really last.

>> No.6417880

>>6417792
jack/vans --------- cps
i feel there's no middle ground

>> No.6417882
File: 153 KB, 432x539, tumblr_mp11zfqEg61qzdcn0o2_500[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6417882

>>6417880

>> No.6417883

>>6417851
>Called it!

lol you're so right omg you totally CALLED it

also
>has that picture saved
you're a pleb

>> No.6417886

>>6417851

Yeah I know, and you're wrong. Why would anyone praise bad quality and ugly designs over more expensive, good ones? You're retarded.

>> No.6417890
File: 228 KB, 640x960, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6417890

>>6417883
Come on now.

>> No.6417893

>>6417890

What are you trying to say lmao

>> No.6417918

What are some extremely cheap shoes that look exactly like all white vans? I need some shitty sneakers to ruin

>> No.6417924

>>6417872
I have had a pair of vans for about 3 years now and they are fine.

>> No.6417929

>>6417918
vans

>> No.6417930

>>6417918
http://shop.vans.com/catalog/Vans/en_US/style/41$.html?categoryId=10147&colorCode=TSV91K#

>> No.6417934

>>6417929

lmaoooooooo <3

>> No.6417936

>>6417924
which ones?

>> No.6417942

Can you fags stop complaining about Vans and rec me something else?

>> No.6417952
File: 559 KB, 2448x2733, jwEoaDu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6417952

>>6417942
clarks desert vans

>> No.6417953

>>6417930
Cheaper than 45 bucks fucking smartass

>> No.6417956

>>6417953
you didnt say price dipshit
>$45 not cheap
topkek

>> No.6417971

>>6417956
I said extremely cheap faggot. And I'm practically homeless so I want cheap as shit shoes that I can ruin. So unless you're gonna help how about you shut your whore mouth shannon

>> No.6417974

>>6417971
go to swap meets / cheap outlets where they sell no brand generic plimsolls
you can get them for under $10

>> No.6417980

>>6417971
45 MSRP is extremely cheap, youre more of a whore if you cant afford that and prob why youre homeless - just go to some thrift store and buy some 2nds

>> No.6418016

>>6417971
>>6417953
>>6417942
>>6417918
http://www.azaleasf.com/p/Deck-Shoe-in-White/ZIGMSHSNE7235WHITE#view=details&item=ZIGMSHSNE7235WHITE&search=*&currIndex=0&pageSize=60&currSort=score&sortDirection=desc


Check that attidude, not going help when youre homeless. Anyway Zigzag shoes, hard to find in white but most of their shoes should be around $20

>> No.6418110

>>6417886
I'm out after this, but:

>Why would anyone praise

I don't think I've ever praised Vans in my life, and I definitely haven't ITT. They actually leave me a little cold, personally; I've never really been one for pure canvas shoes, and Vans in particular seem like they hit on boring easily. And that's the first positive thesis I've advanced on them ITT. Normally I'd feel bad about how flimsy and unconsidered that is, but considering that every negative post of them ITT is either just straight snobbery or unqualified statements of "bad quality" I'm pretty okay with it.

Earlier this week, or maybe last, someone started a thread asking if Doc Martens can be /fa/. I said yes, of course - because any classic becomes a classic for a reason - but I think they're a little played out and I dislike them for a couple other reasons x and y, and posted a few other similar-vibe boots I thought might pique someone's imagination. I did not make any easy snipes like "lol, made in China," or "lol, McDonald's of combat boots," or "GTFO crusty."

That's the right sort of response to this stuff. The one response ITT that went in that direction was the guy who suggested OP go specifically for a model with a cupsole.

The wrong sort of response is to just dismiss decades of iconic status and history with grumblings about plebs and "muh kwalty" that miss nuance, context, sign value, personal style, different kinds of quality, literally everything that makes one person look like sex in Vans and another person look like a physically repulsive douche in a pair of Achilles or Geobaskets.

>bad quality

They're not as robustly made as some shoes, and in a culture entranced with disposability that can definitely be something to take into account.

>> No.6418118

>>6418110
At the same time, though, every culture uses some disposable stuff, and there's a unique kind of blithe charm to cheap, trashy, carefree clothes. (This is going to sound pretentious as shit, but writing that a sentence Nabokov used talking about the settings of Lolita stuck in my head: "Nothing is more exhilarating than philistine vulgarity.")

If you just mean the feel of the materials, it's canvas and rubber. It's hard to fuck up and quickly suffers from diminishing returns. I've never owned a pair or worn them for an extended period, but I can't remember anything objectionable when I've felt them. Let things be what they are. Disdaining Vans is as dull as someone in John Lobbs disdaining Rick sneakers.

This is separate from ethical issues of provenance, but those are neutralizeable by buying used, anyway.

>ugly designs

Talk. Be more precise. Be intelligent. What about them seems ugly to you? Why does it seem ugly? If you can't articulate some actual thoughts about the shoes you're probably just being snobbish about the people you perceive as their wearers. Which is just bad, which is my whole point.

>over more expensive

Seriously, man? You're calling other people plebs and you're the one talking about money? 'Kay.

>You're retarded.

Cool playground ableism.

>>6417974
This. Also, find some local social service organizations; many have programs that will hook people up with free clothes.

>> No.6418889

>>6418118
>>6418110
I like your posts, they seem pretty insightful compared to most of what I see on /fa/. Don't like that part about ableism though, it makes you sound like one of those douches who thinks he will change the world by making the use of "retarded" socially unacceptable.

>> No.6419120

all white authentics r gr8 summer shoes

i think their silhouette looks nice than CP lows

>> No.6419133

>>6417300

these shoes are pretty autistic

they remind me of shoes badger from breaking bad would wear

>> No.6419185

If they're good enough for Lil B they're good enough for me.

>> No.6419194

>>6418110
>maturity on 4chan

get out fuccboi

>> No.6419219
File: 168 KB, 1047x570, Screen shot 2013-04-02 at 11.02.10 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6419219

>>6417448
i love vans, they are great shoes. i like them because they are just plain ol' sneaks. shoes don't need to be so overdone, you know? i love the simplicity behind them. they are practical.

>> No.6419225

oh and just to let you know OP, i owned a pair of half cabs pros and they were awesome. lasted me a long time, super comfy, durrable, and i like they way the shoe is shaped.

>> No.6419239
File: 18 KB, 300x300, get out.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6419239

>>6417628

>> No.6419277

>>6418889

Thanks.

Here, the "playground ableism" was more a dig that he's literally resorting to the favorite insult of first graders, but "retarded" should be socially unacceptable.

It's an insult still actively used to abuse people who are weaker than its users in at least one way because of a medical condition beyond their control. It hurts them and the people who care about them when it's used. Making people suffer for literally no reason is generally unacceptable, but since it's people we prefer to ignore and treat with less dignity when we can't, some people regard it as acceptable. It's not.

It's not so much about making the world a better place in some grand salvific way as it is not making the world a worse place for people who have a hard time in it already. Although I'd argue one leads to the other.

>> No.6420170
File: 247 KB, 1150x909, 21017_Black_1_1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6420170

Ipath comfy as hell or if your on a budget adio
Pic related shoes i just bought

>> No.6420188

>>6420170
Got them for $1.99buy $9.99shipping Ebay shoes brand new tagged and boxed

>> No.6420332

>tfw where I live(Russia) vans are overpriced as fuck(around 100$ for basic authentics) so plebs wear adidas, nike, puma etc. because most of them can't into internet shopping

>> No.6420398

>>6417359
>>6417796

samefag...

>> No.6420416

>>6419219

Common Projects are more simplistic then Vans could ever be, and oh around a hundred times more better made, but there's the price problem for some people.

>> No.6420434

>>6417470
i have a friend like this

dude likes vans what can you say?

why do people liking things make you sad?

>> No.6420437
File: 442 KB, 1280x853, vans-california-2012-fall-winter-birds-authentic-ca-pack-5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6420437

What you think about these?

>> No.6420438

>>6417300
nigger shoes thats why. Do you want to dress like a commoner who spent more than they can afford on shoes? Buy these!

>> No.6420622

>>6420437
They're nice. A bit too tumblr, but I'd cop'em.

>> No.6422748
File: 386 KB, 549x541, shoesss.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6422748

opinion?

>> No.6423510

>>6417300

If they look good on you, and you don't feel/look awkward in them, then get them. Like some people say on here, if you're not comfortable is shit you wear then you're going to look like shit. Given that the shit you wear doesn't look like shit in itself. People are going to hate, it's 4chan afterall.

>> No.6423533

>>6417354
Supra Asaults, Keds Champions

>> No.6423819

>>6417328
fucking manlet

>> No.6423822

>>6422748
holy shit what is that