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Why don't we have a proper denim thread?

>> No.17833237
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Any other raw denim brands worth considering besides 3sixteen, N&F, Nudie Jeans, Iron Hearts, Samurai, Momotaro, Oni and Japan Blue? Unbranded Jeans maybe for entry level?

>> No.17833245

>>17833237
There have been some small “boutique” shops shilled here for custom work that costs a little more.

>> No.17833617

>>17833237
There are lots, check out https://www.okayamadenim.com
https://www.denimio.com/default/home/
For a good range of some of the smaller Japanese brands.
I strongly recommended momotaro for smooth jeans made with top quality hand picked cotton. Samurai for heavyweight jeans with lots of character, tcb jeans for high quality vintage reproductions, orslow for a nice contemporary easy fit with the 105, eternal for jeans that take fucking forever to fade, pure blue japan for jeans with a large amout of irregular slubbly character without getting into some of the dramatic and divisive "slub monster" type fabrics.
Personally i would aviod jeans over 16oz in weight unless you can try them on in person, they get hot and dont drape as nicely as lighter fabrics.

>> No.17833620

>>17833234
cause denim isn't in style unless you're a mexican uncle

>> No.17833626

>>17833620
Hahahahaha

>> No.17833627
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>>17833237
Tanuki is nice

>> No.17833659

>>17833237
my favorite pair of jeans is from shockoe atelier, their kojima jeans in the vintage cut. can't take a pic because im getting them repaired, but they are the most comfortable pair i've ever had straight out of the box. not very flashy or different, if that's what you are into, but they're solid normal looking jeans.

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Lots of good recs n this thread >>17818777
Some anon mentioned brave star and I'm intrigued about the strongman cut, being a bit of a fitizen myself

>> No.17833823

>>17833234
Denim begins with 501s and ends with Cowboy cuts - FACT

>> No.17833843

>>17833237
To me Orslow strikes the best balance between high quality, great cuts and reasonable pricing. Only thing is they only make one inseam size so if you’re very tall you’re going to struggle.

>> No.17834455

>>17833237
a lot, you're not even scratching the very surface of the big japanese brands and there's also an entire world of this stuff that has zero mention on the english speaking internet because no one's imported it yet.
>japan blue
japan blue is momotaro
did you mean pure blue japan?
if not that's one of the best too.
>>17833843
>>17833617
ever get or try on a jacket from them? i was looking for a washed/prefaded/already worn in chore coat and theirs really caught my attention.

>> No.17834457

>>17833823
my stack of selvedge is getting to be almost as tall as me, 4 pairs haven't even been worn yet and part of me wants to start breaking in a fresh new pair of 13mwz from walmart.

>> No.17834873

what brands make the craziest looking denim? i want something with a weird texture or even a different color, my 3 pairs of jeans are all very normal. one stonewashed pair and 2 dark indigo pairs. i want to add something funky to the mix.

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>>17834873
True religion

>> No.17834877

>>17833234
i got some 4 way stretch jeans that are really comfy. i dont they wont last as long as my non stretch denim, but hey theyre like wearing sweatpants

>> No.17834886

>>17834873
>>17833627

>> No.17835104

>>17833237
>>17833659
Shockoe is quite underrated. You are basically getting japan-tier quality, but for domestic prices that aren't ridiculously high.

>> No.17835130

>>17833237
no rogue territory ? are you kidding me?

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Thoughts on APC raws? They were the only denim brand I heard about on fayy in the early 2010s now no one talks about them

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Pic related are Eytys Cypress raw. These would NOT feel soft and would fade, am I correct? I'm not into the whole indigo heritage workwear americana stuff and prefer jeans to be soft and 'powdery' to the touch, like running your fingers across the surface of flour or something.

>> No.17835218

my momotaros are starting to fade but mostly just in the crotch area. kinda annoying. whiskers are still very light and honeycombs barely there.

i wish there were a way to make them fade more evenly. but nothing beats the friction from walking.

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>>17833234
Anyone got recommendations for a nice pair of grey jeans? something similar to this is preferable

>> No.17835255

>>17833823
I had a pair of 13mwz rigid. Not a fan of the high rise. I prefer UB201s and Japan Blue since they're more entry level/midrange into raw denim and don't have that blueberry color that Wranglers acquire.

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Still the best entry level into raw denim at just $30. It is sanforized so it won't shrink after washing. The thing is that if you want fades, don't buy these as they take their fucking time to fade.

What are other great entry level raw denim brands? Unbranded and Gustin , maybe 501STF?

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>>17835260
here's some you missed:

the indonesian brands have the best budget selvedge imo. they're not well known about but you can get really high quality selvedge for $50-100 from them. here's two of them as examples:
https://wingmandenim.com/kategori-produk/pants/selvedge-denim/
https://www.sagedenim.co/collections/bottoms

uniqlo's selvedge is also unironically pretty good. their 'normal' selvedge is like eternals where they fade very slowly, short staple, and tighly woven with no slub. boring to denim heads but they make for very robust work jeans that are stronger than their weight suggests. uniqlo also makes jeans using denim from kaihara mills (their taiwan mill not their japan mill) thats a lot more interesting and fade fast too. both are great jeans for the price.

and also while we're talking about budget entries into raws, here's the best budget entries into truly high end denim, in my opinion. they're all priced at around 200 and they're the cheapest jeans i would consider truly high end and among the best in the world:
japan blue: they're exactly the same as momotaros except with synthetic dye instead of natural dye. momotaros aren't known for their dyes anyways. what they're known for is their incredibly durable and smooth denim, that is much more durable than 99% of raws on the market because of their tight weave, and the very long staple length of the zimbabwe cotton they're made out of. unlike most selvedge they use denim that isn't focused on looking cool and all slubby and neppy they use selvedge focused on being rugged as fuck while having a nice hand feel.
studio d'artisan: honest to god osaka 5 brand jeans that start at $180 what more is there to say?
sugar cane: they're one of the best denim brands, that happens to sell their jeans at an entry level price, they would still be one of the best denim brands if they cost 2x as much. hawaiian grown cotton and made in usa.

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>>17835260
here's some you missed:

the indonesian brands have the best budget selvedge imo. they're not well known about but you can get really high quality selvedge for $50-100 from them. here's two of them as examples:
https://wingmandenim.com/kategori-produk/pants/selvedge-denim/
https://www.sagedenim.co/collections/bottoms

uniqlo's selvedge is also unironically pretty good. their 'normal' selvedge is like eternals where they fade very slowly, short staple, and tighly woven with no slub. boring to denim heads but they make for very robust work jeans that are stronger than their weight suggests. uniqlo also makes jeans using denim from kaihara mills (their taiwan mill not their japan mill) thats a lot more interesting and fade fast too. both are great jeans for the price.

and also while we're talking about budget entries into raws, here's the best budget entries into truly high end denim, in my opinion. they're all priced at around 200 and they're the cheapest jeans i would consider truly high end and among the best in the world:
japan blue: they're exactly the same as momotaros except with synthetic dye instead of natural dye. momotaros aren't known for their dyes anyways. what they're known for is their incredibly durable and smooth denim, that is much more durable than 99% of raws on the market because of their tight weave, and the very long staple length of the zimbabwe cotton they're made out of. most high end selvedge denim is made to look cool with loose irregular slubby weaving. momotaro makes their denim to be as strong as possible while having an exceptionally nice smooth hand feel instead.
studio d'artisan: honest to god osaka 5 brand jeans that start at $180 what more is there to say?
sugar cane: they're one of the best denim brands, that happens to sell their jeans at an entry level price, they would still be one of the best denim brands if they cost 2x as much. hawaiian grown cotton and made in usa.

>> No.17835280

>>17835104
japan or american denim assembled in usa is always going to win on price if you live in america because japanese companies have to pay huge tariffs when they import garments. they don't have to pay them when they import denim textile to sell to american brands to make their own jeans out of.

>> No.17835317

>>17835272
Thanks for the list. We should make a pastebin or some shift if this thread will last.

I dig the sage denim vermilion 20oz, I think I'll get me a pair. I forgot about uniqlo. I have a jacket from Japan Blue but I always considered them to be on the midrange side than budget/entry level.

>> No.17835385

>>17835317
they're exactly the same as momotaro jeans other than momotaro jeans use natural indigo dye and japan blue uses synthetic with a $100 price difference.
momotaro is the best in the world for its category. tight right hand twill weaves with the highest grade long staple cotton on planet earth is their niche. they don't make their denim all loose weave, textured, and interesting to look at for denim nerds, they make it for hand feel and strength. their market is dudes who don't care about things like nep slub or shuttle loom chatter but everything else about japanese selvedge appeals to them.

>> No.17835389 [DELETED] 

but yeah the $200 tier i posted is considered mid range if we're talking about raw denim as a whole. i'm calling $150-$200 the entry level for high end selvedge. yeah there's a few companies priced slightly lower that would qualify but they're mostly asian brands with zero western online presence.
i consider "entry level high end" being jeans that don't have noticeable corners cut to construction compared to the standards heritage jeans used to have. a pair of wranglers or 501stfs is fucking great love em' but flip it inside out and its kinda obvious they're not made the same way wrangler and levi's used to make jeans lol.

>> No.17835390

but yeah the $200 tier i posted is considered mid range if we're talking about raw denim as a whole. i'm calling $150-$200 the entry level for selvedge you can truly call high end. yeah there's a few companies priced slightly lower than 150 some even lower than 100 that would qualify but they're mostly asian brands with zero western online presence.
i consider "entry level high end" being jeans that don't have noticeable corners cut to construction compared to the standards heritage jeans used to have. a pair of wranglers or 501stfs is fucking great love em' but flip it inside out and its kinda obvious they're not made the same way wrangler and levi's used to make jeans lol.

>> No.17835428

thoughts on taking the raw denim jacket i'm currently breaking in normally, waiting until around the 2 year mark, after the elbow whiskers are deeply set, and then lightly stone washing it?
the more i look at actual surviving examples of worn in raw denim from the eras we're all buying reproductions of, the more i realize that a lot of people back then used to very lightly stone wash their raw jackets (not how we do the stone washing super strong like today) at some point presumably to soften them up. it winds up giving the real vintage surviving pairs a slightly different look to them than worn in reproduction.
so yeah my curiosity is what it'd look like if i wore a jacket to have the super crispy elbow whiskers and back of elbow fades they get when you do hard labor in them & then stone wash it after.
should i?

>> No.17835432

the one i'm thinking about doing it with is a non selvedge cheap ass levi's jacket -- i don't care about the jacket itself the only thing i have to lose is it already has a year worth of roofing fades in it and it just finally started feeling broken in a few weeks ago.

>> No.17835454

>>17835428
How do you stone wash at home?

>> No.17835459

>>17835454
pumice stones in the washing machine. amount and size determines the outcome.

>> No.17835559

>>17835459
You just run them through a normal cycle? Do you use detergent and bleach? Youtube is conflicting on this.

>> No.17835587

>>17835559
i'm going to wash with detergent and use a smaller amount of larger piece of pumice because i want a subtle stone washing.
there's no exact science you can use anything from large rocks to grit, bleach or none, it depends on the finish you want and experimenting's the only way to find out.

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>>17834873
Something like the king of slub jeans by naked and famous
They usually do a few crazy pairs every season check out their website.

>> No.17836180

I've taken the stretchpill and am not going back

>> No.17836192

>>17836180
I've owned a non-raw, non-selvedge stretch jeans, never liked the feeling of it.

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Best faders? For me, it’s Samurai

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>>17833237
Check out Resolute. Pretty niche but the best raws I own (pic related is the 710).

>>17835164
APC petit standards were my gateway into raw denim about a decade ago. Quality has noticeably declined and you can find much better for a similar price nowadays.

They do have a great fit though.

>> No.17837869

>>17834873
naked and famous is exactly what you want if you're asking about raws.
go on their website and look at their back catalogue.
or do you mean crazy looking washed denim?

>> No.17838418

>>17836292
Love me some sami fades, the 16oz texas cotton denim they do is fantastic, pretty quick fades and high contrast

>> No.17838447

>>17836171
>>17837869
i will check them out.

>> No.17838456

any recommendations for nicer/heavier jeans cut like Levis 502s? I don't give a shit about raw denim and I plan on washing them.

>> No.17838527

>>17838456
If you want a perfected version of a 502 style tapered Jean, go with an Iron Heart 888 in 21 oz, or the Samurai S520xx if you prefer a slightly slubby texture

>> No.17838809

>>17838418
I've been wearing in a pair of s510xx in their 21 oz. Been lovely, lots of character and it has quicker fading compared to my Iron Hearts

>> No.17838814
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What's the best brand of denim for around $50-80 bucks that I don't have to hem?

Uniqlo selvedge?

>> No.17838881

>>17838814
i am speaking completely out of turn since i don't personally own them, but my friend has a pair of "unbranded" jeans that he really likes. if you can stretch the budget a little it seems like a good choice. they were unexpectedly stiff when new for their weight though, so if you get them it might take a little while to break them in.

>> No.17838909

what shoes to wear with double denim?

>> No.17838936

>>17838909
Depends on the cut of jeans. If you are wearing a straight fit, do a more narrow shoe like some converse or vans old skools. If you are wearing a slim or a tapered fit, you can wear both a narrow shoe or even some wider toe skate shoes. Obviously a standard pair of 6" boots pair well with denim with any fit

>> No.17839025 [DELETED] 

>>17838881
I know about them but it seems like they gotta be hemed.

For some ungodly reason, the cheapest anyone around me is willing to hem jeans is $15. Not even 3 years ago, it was only ~$6.

Thanks though anon.

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>>17838881
I know about them but it seems like they gotta be hemed. For some ungodly reason, the cheapest anyone around me is willing to hem jeans is $15. Not even 3 years ago, it was only ~$6. Appreciate it, though.

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Which pair looks better?

Left (RRL) has an old school structured fade.
Right (Frame) is a basic light blue that’s in style right now.

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>>17839134
Sorry for shit photos

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1 month progress.
paul rose products slim made from oni denim, i think oni secret iirc??
i love how crazy the leg twist is on these.
deadstocked these in 2011 my collection is fucking huge.
i'm going to have to get a pair of heritage cut oni's i love the dye they use it fades so good.

>>17839134
i like left better but right is definitely more on trend

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>>17839359
whoops wrong pic i took that for an anon asking about my belt.

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here i'll post some more from my fades archives
how it started

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>>17839372
16 years later
if you notice the shitty alteration its because i bought these before anyone was doing union special hems in the united states, at least locally or with a website.
i got into raws right when the osaka 5 denim revival happened in japan, no one did those back then. sucks they would have been so much better.

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one more for you guys
how it started

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>>17839378
how its going
i only wear these on the job in the summer or when im doing roofing

>> No.17839395

can someone please kindly post me some sashiko/etc style repair inspo?
i have a stack of jeans that goes from the floor to chest height that look like the pairs i just posted in unwearable states in dire need of repair.

>> No.17839406

>>17839378
>>17839381
how long have you had this pair and how often did you wear them?

>> No.17839409 [DELETED] 

>>17839406
a lot of my stuff is unknown/unknown because i used to think it was really cringey how redditors wrote all that on their pocket bags back in the day. kinda wish i did i lost the comp book i kept all that in.
i probably bought them in the aughts, i wore them as jeans for a few years, then i cut them off. once they got cut off they got worn every summer doing construction till like 2018. retired around then.

>> No.17839412 [DELETED] 

>they got worn
they only got worn

>> No.17839443

>>17839406
a lot of my stuff is unknown/unknown because i used to think it was really cringey how redditors wrote all that on their pocket bags back in the day. kinda wish i did i lost the comp book i kept all that in.
i probably bought them in the aughts, i wore them as jeans for a few years, then i cut them off. once they got cut off they became my primary summer work jeans (mostly residential mostly remodels everything but electrical/plumbing) and the pants i'd wear for most roofing jobs. they got washed more than i usually do. around 5-7 hand washes. retired 2018.
edited post w/ more info i remembered and typo fix.

>> No.17839456

oh yeah it also just hit me, they were coated when i got them
otherwise the same 3301s as i posted

>> No.17839665

>>17839361
Nice, that looks like it will give you some killer contrast.

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took pics of another one because my friend was asking about tight weave denims
japan blue jb0101
purchased 2010
1 saltwater rinse 1 wash
mixed wear between on and off the job, slow faders, but i kinda like that.

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they don't lose much color with washes giving them a unique place in my rotation even with mainline momotaros in it.

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sorry if this isn't the right thread
anybody recommend any good black denim jumpsuits that can fit a 6'2-6'3" individual?

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Been wearing in these Samurais for the last 4 months. I own a pair of Iron Heart 888, but these just seem to fit perfectly. Just get a pair of straight fit jeans, you can never go wrong

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>>17839908

>> No.17839918

>>17839909
Damn i love that huge leg twist
Nice fit

>> No.17840074

>>17839908
>Just get a pair of straight fit jeans, you can never go wrong
I wish I bought almost all my tapered jeans in straight cut. Except maybe 1 or 2 of the best fitting pairs.
Tapered cuts go in and out of style and are sensitive to body weight fluctuations. Only work with some fits. Straight cuts are timeless and always comfy, and slot into almost any fit.

>> No.17840084

>>17840074
Yeah that’s pretty much what I’m getting at. I’m decently fit to where I can confidently fit into straight tapered fits, but if you’re going to be spending $300+ on some nice selvedge you should just stick with the most universal and timeless cut. There are times that I like to crack out my pair of 888s to pair them with some vans or converse, but I’ve been heavily gravitating toward my samurai s510 way more because it’s not only more comfortable but in my opinion it’s easier to pair with any fit

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>>17840084
my straight cuts and straight tapers (i'm skinny as fuck they both look baggy on me) get the most compliments by far too.
fuck it i'm starting a pair of 13mwz most of my straight cuts need repair or have paint on them.

>> No.17840159

how much do wrangler rigids shrink?
gymbro friend is trying to find jeans that don't look like jeggings on him, gonna try 31MWZDN rigids to get a base line to find good measurements with. he can get them either tts or +2 they don't make the in between size.
my weigh fluctuates so much i'm not worried about mine lol.

>> No.17840256

How do you pull off geth cut jeans as a man?

>> No.17840266

>>17840256
>geth cut jeans
the nigga on self edge is pulling it off https://www.selfedge.com/rick-owens?product_id=2901

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>> No.17841622

If i want my trouser rotation to be nothing but a pair of regular fit dark blue, and black jeans, then which brand should i get both from? Minor requirements are
>any metal on them should be a brushed brass colour
>no heavy branding (massive LEE on the belt straps leather etc)
>ideally under £150 for both of them
>workwear brand so they’ll last me forever

>> No.17841663

>>17835260
>they don’t shrink after washing
So do you buy these a size up like other raw jeans or not?

>> No.17841807

I get my jeans from Costco. You know the stretchy ones?

>> No.17841813

>>17835428
Just wear the damn thing and only wash them when they get stinky. Nobody stonewashed at home ever.

>> No.17841867

>>17835272
>https://wingmandenim.com/kategori-produk/pants/selvedge-denim/
do i just sort by popularity and pick whats at the top? id be lying if i said i understood what the differences between them are

>> No.17841895

>>17841622
eternal and uniqlos china selvedge are the slowest faders ive had if you want jeans that stay dark forever.

>> No.17841897

>>17838456
>>17838527
Ended up ordering some Rogue Territory hard tapers. Measurements look like what I'm after.

>> No.17841926

>>17841895
>uniqlos china selvedge
only got regular fits in blue, shame
>eternal
link to this one?

>> No.17842038

>>17835260
I think the show fading is nice, you don't feel like the dye is cheap and it looks worn but not old

>> No.17842679

>>17841926
only saw 1 store selling em i haven't used just search engine it
im pretty sure n&f did a denim designed to not fade maybe a decade ago
unbrandeds fade pretty slow too
and looser cuts make all jeans fade slow

>> No.17843275

Are brown jeans effay

>> No.17843464
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My birthday is coming up, I thought I'd buy myself a pair of lightly colored jeans. I like this pair, anyone know the brand or something similar?

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>>17835260
just started a new pair of 13mwz +1 size and belted for a relaxed fit.
kek every boomer in the neighborhood is asking me w2c. i can't recall any of my glorious nippon selvedge getting this many compliments in their raw state.
good call anon.
sucks they switched the leather patch to rubber, im removing mine.

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Wrangler rigid cowboy cut

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here's what it looks like if you take the rubber "leather" patch off.
probably not noticeable once they wear in. but i think i'm going to emboss something funny on a piece of actual leather and 'upgrade' it.

>> No.17843991

>>17834873
Rock Revival make some out there jeans as well

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I got the wrangler silver edition 13mwz years ago, but they stretched a ton in the waist. Would doing a hot soak shrink them back up? Also tried to upgrade to freenote wilkes which looked perfect in pictures, but I didn't check the measurements and the vidalia denim ended up running really small. All the reviews said they stretch out and loosen up but I've had no luck, any tips? These things are leggings from the knees up.

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bought these rogue territory canvas trousers today, are rogue territory still worthy?

>> No.17844131

>>17843910
>>17843981
I cut the plastic patch off a pair of black 13mwz less than a week ago and the stiching marks have already disappeared.
If you make a custom patch though, post it. I would love to see what you come up with.

>> No.17844134

>>17844036
they make good jackets and shirts, I don't think any of their jean cuts fit me the way I want

>> No.17844198

>>17844131
i definitely will if i do, and i think i will at some point..
i'm not opposed to jeans without a leather patch, it just feels like it should be there if they have pocket arcs.

>> No.17844220

>>17834873
Evisu

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>>17844036
Slim cuts are hideous, and it seems like Rogue Territory specializes in that sort of thing. Not my cup of tea. Straight cuts are timeless and universal

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3 questions:

What’s your thoughts on iridescent denim?

Wtf is the point of these button waist flap that every denim jacket has?

Why are Native Americans so obsessed with denim clothing?

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Got me a pair of these. Can't wait for them to arrive. Edwin MIJ regular tapered, selvedge, got them on sale at half the price.

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I coped a black mac stella in a second hand shop a few days ago. Women's jeans, a little tight on the balls and ridiculous pockets but otherwise cool fit

>> No.17844328

>>17844322
>Women's jeans
uhh is it 2002 again?

>> No.17844431

>>17844134
their waist measurements are weird, my usual 31 is way bigger in the waist but it has the same measurements as my RRL officer chinos, the fit on those is 10/10, so i might have to take in the waist.
>>17844290
looks like hes wearing diapers

>> No.17844483

>>17844293
I love those whiskers.

>> No.17844687

Any good jeans with side seam pockets? Never liked how I had to shove my hands into the standard jean pocket

>> No.17844734

>>17844687
off the top of my head rogue territory and studio d'artisan trousers come in denim.
most carpenter jeans have slash pockets, the in-between of the two.
i've seen jap brands sell it but i forgot what they call it.
if you just want jeans with big pocket openings that fit a human hand not specifically side pockets, just get some wranglers.

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If I get these this will be my first pair of raw selvedge. What size should I get? I’ve read go smaller and go higher. I wear a 30 waist in Levi’s 501

>> No.17845383

>>17845360
You need to check to see if it is unsanforized or if it’s already been washed and pre shrunk. Measure your waist and thigh size and compare it to the dimension chart of those jeans. A lot of selvedge sizing does not directly compare to average US sizing, and since selvedge will most likely be 100% cotton with no stretch, any hiccups on sizing are a little more unforgiving. Definitely don’t skip out on measuring your thighs though. You might find out that if you’re looking at a slim fit pair that you’ll actually not fit into them as well as a more straight or relaxed pair

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>>17843464
3sixteen stonewashed classic taper
https://www.3sixteen.com/collections/denim/products/ct-101xs-classic-tapered-stonewashed-indigo-selvedge

>> No.17845581

>>17844687
i bought tcb's seamen trousers a year ago and they have very comfortable pockets, although they're a bit lightweight:
https://tcbjeans.myshopify.com/collections/jeans/products/deck-pants-one-washed

most sizes are sold out but this pair from orslow seems very similar:
https://shopcanoeclub.com/collections/orslow/products/u-s-navy-denim-utility-pants-one-wash

>> No.17845584

>>17844687
theres also these fatigue pant from universal works; not fond of the white stitching but maybe you'll like it: https://universalworks.co.uk/products/universal-works-fatigue-pant-in-indigo-misato-denim

>> No.17846087

>>17845581
tcb fucking rules
buy their 50s or 60s jeans before they triple in price. They use the denim from arguably the best denim mill in japan for those models

>> No.17846111

>>17833237
I bought a pair of Neighborhood LVL 0 (raw) back in 2009 and they're still going strong. Good whiskers/honeycombs. Believe it or not, I got a pair of Levis 501XX which also have lasted since 2007 but I wasn't able to fit them as well once I started working out.

>> No.17846114

>>17833237
>>17846111
>>17833237
I also remembered back when I used to frequent the Bapetalk forums in like 2006, and Bapetalk2 forums, people would go on about how raw Dior denim was surprisingly good and comfortable. No idea if Dior still sells raw denim or not.

>> No.17846572

Are there any brands that make bell bottoms? Not bootcut, bell bottom, it's way more flared.

>> No.17846629

>>17845581
nta but thanks, just got the semen pants. they look really great.

>> No.17846630

>>17833620
are you retarded?
Since their invention there hasn't been a period where jeans aren't in style, they are the most pants pants that ever existed

>> No.17846676

Wassup denim nerds. Quick question, what's the best places to sell some 1970s Levis 501 selvedge? I bought two pair out of a yard sale and I really only want to keep one, they look like they're fucking expensive, thanks lads

>> No.17846703

>>17846676
you can try grailed but it's annoying to use, i'm not a fan. ebay is going to be easier, just make sure to do an accurate description to make sure it hits all the search criteria.

>> No.17846719

Test

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Where the fuck can I get jeans like this in a decent quality

>> No.17846848

>>17846722
Don't.

>> No.17846872

>>17846676
i'd probably check ebay first if i was buying a pair, so prly ebay

>> No.17846877

>>17845383
>You might find out that if you’re looking at a slim fit pair that you’ll actually not fit into them as well as a more straight or relaxed pair
its kinda niche but a bunch of selvedge brands have relaxed upper block tapered leg 'athletic cuts' now. you kinda have to just look at measurements or go on a site like blueowl that lists it as a cut to find them, brands don't always label it a particular way.

>> No.17846894

Is grey a good color for denim jeans?

>> No.17846913

Can anyone recommend a good brand easy to try on in the states so I can figure out what general fit works best on me? As in straight, tapered, skinny, etc

>> No.17846917

>>17846913
Levi's?

>> No.17846921

>>17846894
yep
>>17846913
raw denim?
walmart has wrangler 13mwz rigids.
levis raws are easy to find all over the place at box/mall stores but you have to size up on them because they shrink a ton. dont buy full price always on sale.
stores that have n&f https://www.nakedandfamousdenim.com/en/store-locator
stores that have unbranded: https://theunbrandedbrand.com/pages/stockists
uniqlo's raw denim is good if you live near one
theres a bunch of online retailers with return for whatever reason policies like zappos amazon etc that have raw denim
if you live in america/canada depending on which state you might be able to just road trip to one of the big raw denim retailers and try stuff on in person. if at all possible that's the way to go its basically like walking into mecca with every cut and style you could ever want to try on.
non raw denim?
idk you can find levis everywhere.

>> No.17846989

>>17846894
if you want something else thats a bit different you might not have though of, greencast indigo is underrated

>> No.17847032

>>17835164
Is that an actual ad? Hot mama

>> No.17847041

>>17847032
Srsly…back when fashion advertising was simple..get a hot bitch to wear a kinda cool thing and it’ll make people want it

>> No.17848228
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Levis 501 "Marlon".
Not selvedge, but otherwise it has the exact same fit and proportions as my selvedge 501z xx, but less than half the price and you can actually wash them.
Even the color is "close enough".
Fabric is obviously softer, because it's been pre-washed I guess, and there's no selvedge flag when you roll up the cuffs of course.

>> No.17848234

>>17848228
>you can actually wash them.
you can, and should, wash any pair of jeans

>> No.17848235

>>17833237
>Unbranded Jeans maybe for entry level?
Unbranded have a very short front rise, which crushes your balls.
Other than that they're good jeans.
Uniqlo's stretch denim is a better starter jean or Brave star if you want heavy denim.

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>>17848228
Pic is a detail of the two, difference isn't obvious at all to me.

>>17848234
Washing raw denims is a crapshoot both in terms of fit and color.
I'm not a fan of fades at all.

>> No.17848241

>>17846572
Naked and famous.

>> No.17848246

>>17848241
What's that model called? There's one called "Groovy Guy" but that's only bootcut.

>> No.17848251

>>17848246
Looks like bell bottom jeans to me in the picture, but it is described as a boot cut, other brands boot cut doesn't look like that.
If you're looking for bell bottom jeans that look like they are from the 70s, you'll just have to buy a vintage pair.

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>>17848246
>>17848251

>> No.17848300

>>17846630
please go outside sometime
nobody has worn jeans in 5+ years outside atlanta and they exclusively wear ultra skinny jeans

>> No.17848306

>>17848300
What is the alternative? Plastic nigger pants?

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How do I search for the type of jeans that Sam Hyde is wearing in pic related? I just call the nigga jeans, but I can't for the life of me find anything similar in local shops. Maybe because I live in a white country. Anyways, what is this style called?

>> No.17848370

>>17848320
In Urban America, you can go to clothing stores in the hood and buy those type of jeans.thats probably where he got his.

>> No.17848373

>>17848300
I go outside and see retards whose opinion I don't care about. I will never wear sweatpants in public.

>> No.17848497

Is there any reason not to soak your jeans every week? Ni detergent, just jeans in the water for 30 minutes.

>> No.17848632

>>17848497
wash your jeans you goober

>> No.17848679

>>17848497
People overthink this way too much. Just use common sense. If your jeans smell or you haven't washed them in 3 months, just throw them in the washer inside out on a low spin cycle and hang dry. I wash my jeans every 3 weeks or so. High contrast fades are absolutely silly looking, so there's no reason to refrain from washing them every 6 months unless you want to look like a goofball

>> No.17848693

>>17848300
You’re saying only people in Atlanta wear jeans? I’m from Atlanta and that’s just a bizarre thing to say

>> No.17848856

>>17848497
why would you do that?
after the initial soak it doesn't make any sense to not use soap if you want to wash them frequently. soaking jeans is mostly done to remove starch from raw jeans and soften them up, and to bring out the color in the dye. it doesn't really clean the jeans.
if you wait more than about a month for the initial soak there's not any reason to not use soap either. just wash instead.
the soap isn't what makes them lose indigo especially not if you use a plain liquid soap or woolite extra dark etc.
what are you trying to accomplish? just make your jeans not smell? there's a decently effective trick for that. food saver bag your jeans and freeze them once a month. some odor remains but it doesn't smell bad and your face has to be right up on them after freezing. i'm wearing a pair of 12oz jeans right now that ive put maybe 10 or 15 roofs on houses in the heat of summer in since their last wash and they have zero odor unless i flip them inside out and smell the crotch.

>> No.17848860

>>17848320
they look like one of the washes of fake balmain jeans they sell at urban outfitters.
>>17848228
pretty sure those are either 1 rinse or 1 wash from raw state.
which basically means they're raws. i rinse half of my raws the second i get them. tends to create better more vintage looking fades because pre-rinse causes the threads to tighten. only difference there is its done at factory instead of my bathtub.

>> No.17848863

>>17848497
if you just want to minimize color loss hand wash your jeans using a simple ingredient unscented castile or tallow soap instead of a detegent.
woolite extra dark care is also pretty good in terms of off the shelf detergents. noticeably less color loss than using standard detergent. dark care is ok too but extra dark care is what you want.

>> No.17848945

>>17848300
you're fuckin nuts

>> No.17849068

>>17848306
Not that anon, but degenerate joggers, literal pajamas, and yes, plastic nigger pants and cargos seem to be what most Americans wear these days. Some of the twinkish ones wear slacks as well. But overall, they all dress like welfare niggers.
https://youtu.be/ThUcAdtbaYg?t=139

>> No.17849110

>>17848306
every designer is putting out $1000+ sweatpants and joggers for a reason retard-kun
not a single designer is putting out jeans

>> No.17849135

>>17849110
Rick is
https://www.selfedge.com/rick-owens

>> No.17849140

>>17849135
drkshdw is not rick
unironically hang yourself for posting that on effay

>> No.17849144

>>17849140
these aren't drkshdw
https://www.selfedge.com/rick-owens?product_id=3392

>> No.17849148

>>17849140
neither are these
https://www.rickowens.eu/en/US/men/products/rr02c7305dadfr-0832d
https://www.rickowens.eu/en/US/men/products/rr02c7313dmpsh-98
https://www.rickowens.eu/en/US/men/products/ru02c7333tb-34

>> No.17849191

>>17849110
anon almost all the top designers sell jeans. they're definitely not the style right now but dior isn't known for their jeans huh?
you're just not understanding a simple disconnect: designer fashion is centered around france. everyone thinks of japan and america when they think of high quality denim. historically high quality cotton never grew in that area. when you want good denim you don't go to a high fashion designer. this is evident by the fact that when the designers themselves seek out high quality denims they go to the countries i mentioned to source all the materials and such.

>> No.17849196

also the whole idea of a garment that ages and personalizes to the wearer's body and looks at its worst when its brand new doesn't lend well to runway fashion at all. what the fuck are you going to do have the models break in their raws and get sick fades for 3 years daily wearing them for a show?
common sense that's why they use sandpaper and artistic interpretation.

>> No.17849202

>>17849191
>le high quality denim
designer is never made with autistic 500g per cm2 hand dyed denim
its made with normal denim

>> No.17849206

>>17849202
The Rick stuff posted above is made from Jap denim

>> No.17849207

>>17849202
dior uses japanese selvedge
a top designer well known for making high end jeans with amazing hand feel and some of the best pre-faded pais

>> No.17849211

>>17849202
shit one of my friends got into selvedge through saint laurent, who also uses japanese selvedge.
i googled a list of top 100 designers and just glancing at it a third of them sell at least rtw with japan selvedge.

>> No.17849214

you know you can take raw japan selvedge then distress it by hand with sandpaper and abrasives right?
that's what high end designer jeans usually are. at least when you're getting what you pay for: hand distressing.
end product isn't always a pair of raw denim.
you can even do it yourself way back in the day when urban outfitters did a closeout of unbranded and were selling pairs for $18 i experimented with it a lot. i'm pretty sure at least half of the "fades of the day" on heddels back in the day were sandpaper jobs.

>> No.17849252

>>17834873
Kapital of course.

>> No.17849465

>>17848860
>pretty sure those are either 1 rinse or 1 wash from raw state.
>which basically means they're raws
Eh, the official care instructions say 10% shrinkage when washing.

>> No.17850439

>>17846629
big fan of the seamen pants now that i have them in hand. being that they are based on deck pants i expected plenty of room in the legs, but i was worried they would be slimmed down a little to fit contemporary trends. thankfully they are still nice and roomy, i will definitely keep them in the rotation as a very comfy pair of casual and work pants.

>> No.17850472

>>17849465
care tag is probably wrong if you say they feel washed and they aren't starchy
either that or some fuckery with their "waterless" processing

>> No.17850805

>>17850472
The more washed they feel, the less shrinkage there should be, right?

>> No.17850972

>>17850805
should be the case.
but i don't know if there's any potential fuckery outside what i know, with their waterless finishing process they use on some of their jeans. i should read more about it.

>> No.17850998

>>17848300
I live in new hampshire and see exclusively jeans and cargo pants/shorts

>> No.17852099
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can't wait for my 33 oz. behemoths

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>>17852099
You not going to wash for 6 months?

>> No.17852131

>>17852128
at least 2 years

>> No.17852134

>>17852131
haha my god. I mean, if you're getting 33 oz jeans you might as well get as high of contrast fades as possible

>> No.17852142

>>17852134
Nah I'm just jokin, I have no idea. I usually just wash them when I spill something on them that will stain badly if I leave it or if they start to smell. Apparently they fade pretty quickly just from the insane weight of the material and the friction it creates.

>> No.17852376

Anyone here have 25 oz denim?
What is it like to wear?

>> No.17852382
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>>17852376
I've been breaking in a pair of 25 oz Iron Heart 888. In all honesty, its not really worth it unless you absolutely want the highest contrast fades you can get. If you're into heavier weight denim, 21 oz is literally perfect. From my experience wearing in some samurai and Iron heart 21 oz jeans, it's heavy enough so that you get that thick armor feeling, but it also has some level of drape and comfortable softness when they are worn in. The 25 oz holds creases extremely well, but it has literally zero drape. Not saying that they suck, but its definitely not something I'd ever spend another $400 on.

>> No.17852386

>>17852382
>not something I'd ever spend another $400 on
What about $200 for the Brave star ones.
Hearing that makes me want to get their 21.5 oz ones instead.

>> No.17852440

>>17852386
I would certainly advise you to go with 21.5. Brave star is pretty dope and their prices are fairly reasonable. If you can’t find anything in stock that you’re interested in, you can always check out SoSo denim, or find some EBay accounts selling Iron Hearts straight from Japan for like $250-300. All those companies specialize in heavy weight traditional Americana style denim with tight, straight weaves. I just bought a brand new pair of IH-634 (straight fit) for $270 on eBay. Well worth considering if you don’t want to pay the extra surcharge for buying them in the US or Europe

>> No.17852492

>>17833234
The only denim i wear are beater/disposable Levis 501 i order in Amazon anon. Dont give a fuck about denim.

>> No.17852901

I think Japs are weird. What’s a quality Chinese denim brand?

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>>17852901
Levi's

>> No.17852911

>>17835164
I only have experience with pre washed apc's. I only buy them during the sales season, where you can grab them pretty much as the same price of a pair of levis.
Sure the quality is better than a basic pair of levis, but is nothing mind blowing.
tldr; I think they are worth it during the sales, when they are 50%+ off

>> No.17853016

I want to get a pair of TCB 40s.

>> No.17853070
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Are there brands making good black jeans anymore?

I used to get the Acne Stay Cash ones, the black didn’t fade and the fit was great. Just looked and they’re now £280, I paid like £120 when I last got them about 5-6 years ago.

I want something slim/straight (not skinny) and the black stays black.

I’ve been wearing APC petit standards and new standards but they fade too fast and the quality has gone to shit for a £200 jean.

>> No.17853072

>>17853070
Brave star makes black jeans.

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remember when Target sold raw denim?

>> No.17853102

>>17853072
Yeah I was looking at the mayhems. They seem pretty heavy though, and would probably fade a lot.

>> No.17853103

>>17853102
>and would probably fade a lot.
Pretty sure I read that the dye is struck through, so it wouldn't fade.
I'll look again.

>> No.17853104

>>17853102
https://www.ironheart.co.uk/bottoms/IH-634S-SB.html

>> No.17853107

>>17853103
It says it will fade.

>> No.17853122

>>17853104
These look decent, looks like they come in a few different cuts as well.

>> No.17853139

>>17835272
Thanks. I’ll probably pick up a pair of Japan blue. I see a pair in my size for about $100. How will they compare to naked and famous? Do you have any recs for chinos? I have a pair from naked and famous that I like but I could use another pair of olive or tan pants tk wear with my navy blazer

>> No.17853143

>>17853104
>>17853122
I can vouch for the 634. Its a perfected version of the 501 cut, and their 21 oz denim is within that goldilocks zone of weight. It softens up nicely

>> No.17853147

>>17835272
The Wingman Spitfire is great looking but it's out of stock, I'll definitely pick some up if they ever come in stock.

>> No.17853154

>>17853143
Nice, I’ll definitely check them out. Turns out a store near me stocks them. They also have the Studio D’Artisan Kurozome which look pretty interesting.

Looks like some unique dyeing method native to Japan, and they claim it’s the “blackest black”. Although in pictures it looks more like indigo that’s been garment dyed black with subtle variations of tone.

I think I prefer the “solid” blackness of the Iron Hearts.

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For me, it’s the 541’s, the only Levi’s that fit proportional to my body.

(big upper leg gang rise up)

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>>17834457
I went to a few walmarts for those picked up the slim and the regular >>17835559
Yeah would you soak first when you first get them? I am very cautious alot of my shirts been getting holes and picks. I normally use normal wash with the warm rinse. It's so many conflicting sources. Thank you

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>>17853344
Picked up some levis 501xx from the thrift how should I wash?

>> No.17853644
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>>17853344
>>17853351
If I soak will they loosen up or just out a few dollars

>> No.17853706

>>17852099
FWIW my experience with 22-28oz is they fade a lot better if you soak when you get them. tightens all the threads up but you don't lessen the creases like with lighter denim.
>>17852382
agree, ~21oz was my favorite heavy pair of jeans too.
that's your pair? beaut.

>> No.17853709

>>17853139
dressy or workwear chinos?
uh comparatively to a pair of standard right hand twill 12oz n&fs or something: n&f is gonna have a better dye, japan blue is gonna have better cotton/denim/construction details. cuts are subjective i like japan blue's straight cuts better and n&f's skinny cuts better.

>> No.17853712

>all this talk of 21oz sweet spot
IME the way to go with this weight
YMMV:
hot/cold soak when you get it even if sanforized.
it will not negatively impact fades but it will cause train tracks, fades/folds between threads to form early, and it will lessen your rate of crotch blowouts.
6-12 mo per wash for first 2-3 washes.
wash regularly.
tend to become blanketlike around 5 wash.
its a lot of work and a 3-5 year commitment but they wind up being the comfiest jeans.
this weight is prone to crotch blow outs repair them early before darning/sashiko is needed.
never ride a bike in heavy jeans.

>> No.17853718

>>17853344
soaking won't loosen them, if anything it'll shrink them a bit, but 13mwz should stretch a solid inch in every direction from just wearing them. when i get some jeans that fit a little tight i just do squats and karate stances in them for a few days and they usually stretch out. 13mwz seem pretty strong in the crotch because of their inverted construction compared to most jeans -- i was doing damn near splits in my raws when i bought them.
>>17853351
unscented soap like dr bronners or woolite extra dark hand wash in the bathtub.
hang dry.
nice doge and nice thrift.
>>17853184
whats your weight and height? i'm trying to find cuts that work for a thighbro gymbro friend. raw or washed.

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Just bought a pair of the flame pima cone mill denim on brave star in true straight.

>> No.17853804

those indonesian brands look really really interesting. heavy weights too.

does anyone know any other asian denim brands? someone posted some chinese ones before but i don't think they looked as good.

>> No.17853824

>>17853804
if you're ever in japan there's a whole world of brands that never get talked about or imported here & budget stuff that isn't financially worth importing. you can bring a few pairs without too crazy of import fees if you ever happen to be traveling there.

>> No.17854173

>>17853709
Thanks, I’m leaning more towards dressy chinos but something I can still dress down and wear with flannels or other untucked collared shirts. Mostly purchasing to wear with my navy blazer and leather shoes for conferences that I present in. I wasn’t super impressed with my naked and famous denim. I didn’t see them look it feel any better than my less expensive roundhouse jeans.

>> No.17854239

>>17853804
TCB Jeans, but they're not extremely cheap like the Indonesian ones, but they're priced fairly.

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Where can i find jeans that fit like this?

>> No.17854250

>>17854247
They're called skinny jeans anon.

>> No.17854271

>>17854173
Roundhouse jeans aren't bad, I had some raw overalls from them ages ago.
My favorite place for workish-but-on-the-dressy-side chinos went out of business :( I've been eyeing up taylor stitch next time I need a pair.

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>>17853718
Thank you yeah I think the 501xx are to small because of buttonfly. I'll try squeezing in again maybe also hope I have better luck finding more that fit.

>> No.17854492

>>17854247

H&M

>> No.17854519

>>17854315
if they're slightly too small, not way too small keep em around for weight and waist size fluctuations. at any given time i probably only fit into like 50-70% of my denim collection and i'm glad i have the stuff on the fringes whenever i gain/drop weight.

>> No.17854522

>>17846572
>Are there any brands that make bell bottoms? Not bootcut, bell bottom, it's way more flared.
Big john

>> No.17854611

got any reccs on washing levis?
have a pair of 501's in a light blue wash I got this time last year and wear the fuck out of, got patch in them and a few nicks and rips here and there but they are starting to turn a shade of green or yellow...
I washed them once but could feel them be a little tighter, what can I do lads?

>> No.17854667

>>17852901
>What’s a quality Chinese denim brand?
Bob dong, red tornado, ray kwok, bronson, saucezhan
You can find them all on aliexpress/ebay
Check the posted measurement charts and compare to jeans you own, don't just buy based on your usual waist size
Red tornado is probably the cheapest and most of their cuts are clones of popular cuts from other brands. Bob dong fucking rules but mostly does vintage levis cuts

>> No.17854684

>>17854611
Just cold water wash inside out on a delicate cycle and hang dry, you'll wear out the fabric faster if you let dust and dirt accumulate among the fibers.

>> No.17854697

>>17854611
i would hand wash those in the bathtub so you don't fuck up the repair. other than that what anon said.
make sure the soap you use doesn't have any bleach or fabric softeners or shit in it.
woolite extra dark care or dark care is at most stores for a few bux and great for denim.
machine washing is probably fine but you might have to re-do the repair after a few of them.
>you'll wear out the fabric faster if you let dust and dirt accumulate among the fibers.
sweat too. it becomes a sand-like substance inside the yarns and causes stress points to become blowouts much faster than if they got washed.

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>>17850439
glad to hear anon, they're super comfy & a great option to rotate during warmer months until it gets cold enough to wear heavier denim

bought some tender 132's in brown wattle overdye during the summer and now i get to wear them out. fucking love them, they're nice & roomy and the brown dye is gorgeous. gonna be sad when they inevitably fade into light indigo

>> No.17854729

>>17854271
Well I ordered my naked and famous bone heavy Oxford chinos and Japan blue denim jb0601. I’ll report back if there’s and interest

>> No.17854763

any suggestions for pants with small leg openings for someone with big calves? only tried Levi's 510, 511, 512, and 531... 512s are perfect but it's like skin tight on my calves....

>> No.17854805

Really stupid question here, I just got these momotaro sashiko fabric pants, I knew they might be too small and they are, but only on my thighs and calves. I’m recovering from a back injury and getting back into lifting, should I hang onto them and see if losing the leg fat will help, or will I probably just be replacing the fat with muscle and not making a noticeable difference? Never measured my legs when fit so I just don’t know. Also, does anyone know if this particular fabric will shrink much or stretch with use?

>> No.17854810

>>17854805
Photos not working but whatever, these things https://www.okayamadenim.com/blogs/news/an-od-mj-collaboration-the-sumizome-sashiko-pants

>> No.17854816

>>17854763
This is the reason 514 exists.

>> No.17854819

>>17854816
Am a dummy, I meant the 541 athletic taper.

>> No.17854832

>>17854816
>>17854819
that doesnt look like small leg opening
also
>11% polyester
yuck
>>17854763
check 502's
t. someone who accidentally got 512's without realizing they're for twig leg'd, larry david ass niggas

>> No.17854839

Skinny and slim fits are out right? So what kind of cut should I be looking for? Trying to grab some levi's from their sale rn.
I have some 502s but I feel they kind of crush my balls and fit a bit tight in the thighs

>> No.17854851

>>17854819
I tried both 541 and 531 I'm not a big fan of their shillouett
>>17854832
ill try to fit 502s when I can thanks, I am open to try other brands tho.. I currently settled on 511s but the opening tends to "shift" medially/inwards when I'm not wearing a boot and it bothers the shit out of me lol. I'm guessing it's because of my calves

>> No.17854856

>>17854839
Relaxed taper

>> No.17854860

>>17854856
Looks positively fucking awful on the site model, thanks

>> No.17854861

>>17854860
You asked what's in style.

>> No.17854864

>>17854861
Okay what should I look for that actually looks good and will not make me look like an asperger's survivor in the 1990s?

>> No.17854865

>>17854864
Athletic taper

>> No.17854869

>>17854864
wear what looks good on your frame

>> No.17854875

>>17854865
bet

>>17854869
They're doing a 2-day sale that ends tonight, if I'd known in advance I'd just go to the store and try some on.

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>>17854875
Oh well, you should already know what looks good on you as an adult. And you'd be better off buying jeans straight from China, Levi's is ferdagays now. If you're dead set on them then just wait til Black Friday, probably see better deals then anyways.

>> No.17854898

>>17854839
501 will never be out of style and works on almost every body type.
athletic taper is a good alternative for sneakers wearing.

>> No.17854900

>>17854887
(((levi)))'s have always been jew jeans.

>> No.17854903

>>17833234
thoughts on this conspiracy theory

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8kAF2m4/

>> No.17854907

>>17854903
that is absolutely true, levis has been fucking with the yoke and lowering + increasing the size of the back pocket every few years. that's why cowboy cuts and jap jeans based on old levis cuts are shilled here.

>> No.17855189

>>17854898
>>17854839
501 is terrible for athletic builds who have to size up. you'll need a taper there somewhere.

>> No.17855201

>>17854839
>Skinny and slim fits are out right?
No, people just say things like this but in fact all sizes of fit are basically eternal archetypes that always work if done well.

>> No.17855358

What are my options if I wanna buy a sanforized 501, without giving my money to gays or stinky browns?

>> No.17855388

>>17855358
Samurai s510xx or the Iron Heart 634. As far as I know, those two companies are apolitical and literally just focus on making good jeans

>> No.17855398

>>17833821
Try 501 STF. I've got a 32" waist and 25" thighs and finding jeans off the rack is nigh impossible. STFs meanwhile fit like a dream. You just have to size for the thighs not the waist, make sure to let them dry on you after a soak (once they're damp-ish not dripping) so the thighs don't get too small, and wear a belt to minimize waist stretch

>> No.17855683

>>17843910
Is that if you were to go up a size to what fits you tight? Looks great.

>> No.17856100

>>17855358
Wranglers dnz or mwz13. Smart anon

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>>17856100
What's the difference is one the slimmer I know pwd is prewashed.

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>> No.17856452

>>17856100
Where are Wranglers made?

>> No.17856456

>>17856452
Oh OK I've seen most are mexican made but usa denim.

>> No.17856464

>>17856445
was this made with Bing Creator

>> No.17856471

>>17856464
No! How rude. That is Denim Dan. An extremely famous and well liked guy from here.

>> No.17856478

Jesus. I thought mechanical keyboards were an autistic hobby...

>> No.17856578

>>17856445
Like the jean fit

>> No.17856616

>>17855683
i think they'll fit perfect, i got sick and lost more weight than i thought. i put on some jeans i usually barely fit into today and they needed to be belted oof.

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straight leg all day, can't rock the skinnys

>> No.17856624

>>17856478
Every hobby is autistic to some degree if you really get into it.

>> No.17856625

>>17855358
>without giving my money to gays or stinky browns?
do japs count as stinky browns? asking so i can answer more accurately.
but i'd look for something made in usa out of deadstock cone mills fabric if you want jeans that the minimal amount of brown hands have touched (possibly zero)

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>>17856622
i wanna get more pre-war jeans with the back cinch and big wide legs. i only have 2 pairs and one's very very worn already.

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Been wearing the fuck out of this pair of Livid jeans and doubt i'll ever buy a different brand pair. They're just so much better than anything else i've had.

>> No.17856690

>>17856616
Yeah I recently lost weight and ordered wranglers mwz13 and the slime

>> No.17856691

>>17856690
Slim yeah just hoping I got a few that will fit.

>> No.17856702

>>17856625
The Nips get a pass. How about anything made in Europe?

>> No.17856839

any good black straight leg raw denim? I was looking at 3sixteen cs220x and wondering if there's anything better

>> No.17857308

>>17856702
Japs are honorery aryan. Agreed

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>> No.17857565

any anons have creative ideas for a pair of 1 wash jap selvedge i have that i'll never wear?
someone left them at my house, the waist is my size the inseam is way too long, and i don't think i would wear them anyways because they have gay looking construction details and annoying shit like square buttons on the fly.
i'm already planning to use it for patch material for repairs on my other jeans... any other ideas?

>> No.17857568

>>17856702
i'm not so familiar with european stuff. i know italy has a few high end mills that produce selvedge if you want the denim itself to be from there and not jap.
nips make the best repro stuff in general if you want some kind of sanf 501 cut. i'd just import nip stuff. tcb or something on the cheap end if you wanna spend more theres better options.

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uniqlo 'made in bangladesh' normal selvedge
old work jeans, ?? wears, 1 wash
very slow faders but i like them

i think these will be the jeans i rotate with my new pair of 13mwz for the next year?

>> No.17858706

Anyone wore Acne Studios Denim pants?

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>>17858623
These are cool what do you you find to be the major differences?

>> No.17858798

>>17858712
the kaihara* uniqlos definitely fade much quicker than the normal uniqlo ones.
idk if these are what they still sell though, these have a 2015 date on the tag.

*you might find the kaihara ones wrongfully referred to as the uniqlo made in japan jeans too, they're actually made at kaihara's taiwan factory most ppl who have them don't know that.

>> No.17858814

when i mean slow faders i really mean it with the bangladesh uniqlos. the anon asking about that earlier might be interested.
this pair of jeans >>17858623 probably got worn for like 6-12 months doing carpentry, roofs, digging septic tanks out of peoples yards etc and they're just barely starting to look broken in.
compared to this pair of jeans i posted earlier >>17839361 which have been worn maybe 20 or 30 times sitting on my couch playing video games and smoking weed.
this highlights one of the most important thing i see fellow denimfags overlook: the quality of the dye and natural vs synthetic indigo and also how the yarns were dyed matters a lot. probably more than the weight or texture or slubbiness or anything else we sperg about. but usually at most what type of dye the dying method is just a footnote in the product description nobody really thinks about.

>> No.17858833

>>17858814
I disagree, lightweight denim fades very slowly, and heavyweight denim fades quickly, uniqlo is very lightweight denim.
Most heavyweight denim posted here is still synthetically dyed, natural indigo is very expensive most premium selvedge is still uses synthetic indigo.

>> No.17858887 [DELETED] 

>>17858833
sure the other jeans are twice the weight, but i've had plenty of 12oz jeans fade fast and plenty of 20+oz jeans fade slow. the dye and dying method seems to matter the most ime.
>Most heavyweight denim posted here is still synthetically dyed natural indigo is very expensive most premium selvedge is still uses synthetic indigo.
true. the ones i posted aren't though, they're natural indigo, unsanforized & loomstate.
that's why they fade way way way better than the uniqlos and most synthetic dye jeans i've owned.
and i think its safe to assume the uniqlos are synthetic.

>> No.17858896

>>17858833
>Most heavyweight denim posted here is still synthetically dyed natural indigo is very expensive most premium selvedge is still uses synthetic indigo.
true. the ones i posted aren't though, they're natural indigo, unsanforized & loomstate. the uniqlos are definitely cheapo synthetic.
the weight of the denim does matter a bit but not as much as you think. the type of indigo used, dying method, and the fit matter the most ime. these days skinny fits aren't in style so i think getting jeans with natural indigo is the path to good & fast fades.

>> No.17858902

>>17858896
I think the fastest fading denim would be heavy weight, left hand twill with natural indigo dye.

>> No.17858904

>>17858902
probably, i just don't think the weight affects the speed nearly as much as dye/fit.
the weight does make the fades more crisp, constrasty, and less gradienty than light denim though.

>> No.17858917

>>17854729
My Japan blues came in. The quality seem nice, they’re much heavier than my naked and famous jeans. Thanks for the rec. but what do I do with this 34” inseam. I’m a 30” inseam, do I hem it or cuff it? Cuffing it 2” seems excessive. Also it’s tapered to the bottom so it looks weird to cuff imo

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>>17858917
there's a few ways you can cuff them, if you don't like cuffs might as well just get them hemmed properly

>> No.17858923

>>17858918
I like that Japanese cuff thanks. I am sporting that on one end and cuffed it towards the inside fully on the other. Cuffing it in is almost like getting it hemmed. Not sure which I like better, I’ve had both. My roundhouse jeans were about an inch or two too long so I just cuffed them. My naked and found jeans came spot on so didn’t need to do anything. I think cuffed looks better with boots and hemmed to fit looks better with flip flops and sneakers. Not sure which would look better with a blazer but not sure I would wear jeans with a balzer anyway.

>> No.17858952

>>17858917
jap jeans almost always come with a 1 size fits all inseam.

these days you're 'supposed to' get them hemmed. you can hem them to have no beak, to have a break, to have stacks, have a cuff, no cuff, there's no right answer its all up to you and what looks good with that pair of jeans on your body.
there's different tiers to hemming too.
if you go to any old tailor they'll offer "original hem" hemming or something like that. if you want to see an example of it look at my evisus earlier in the thread. don't ever get that kind of hemming on nice jeans.
they might also do a lockstitch hem. those aren't bad. i think its what wranglers have on them. if you can't find a place to do a chainstitch they're acceptable. most tailors should do it for like 10bux.
the next tier up is to get a chainstitch hem done w/ any old chainstitching machine. some tailors will do it. most upscale places that sell denim will offer it. nordstroms and uniqlos reliably will hem jeans correctly. this is what i'd consider the minimum you should do for a nice pair of jeans you want hemmed. look at my uniqlos for an example of that kind of hem.
and then finally the proper way to hem glorious nippon denim is to find a local guy or mail them in to someone with a union special 43200g /etc. that's the proper, 'best' chainstitch to have on a pair of jeans. and the kind of hem your japan blues came with. most guys with them will do this for 25bux+shipping the jeans if you need to, look up who has one in your region.

traditionally you would cuff them. if you have tapered jeans the cuff style anon showed is the best looking way to take that much length off. if you have wide legged jeans you can kind of do any style of cuff and have it look good. its all personal preference.

note that cuffs do visually shorten you so if you're worried about that for w/e reason go the hem route. im a turbo manlet and i wear 4" old timey single cuffs though. its nbd.

>> No.17858959

>>17858952
2/2 word limit

the difference between a lockstitch/normal chainstitch/union special job is how much sideways roping and how strong of a pull your hem will have. it affects the fades a lot. look at faded wranglers and the roping is vertical, look at faded union special hemmed jeans and it has all this sideways twisting going on above the hem at the edge of the jeans where the hem folds.
both results look good to me... lockstitch is technically stronger than chainstitch too.. on jap jeans the union special hems look the most 'right' to me though i guess.
no wrong way to do it except the 'original hem' shit.

>> No.17858968

>>17858923
fuck around with it at home a few days before you wear them out and decide if you like the hems or want to cuff; the creases won't set in irreversibly right away.
>I think cuffed looks better with boots and hemmed to fit looks better with flip flops and sneakers.
agree.
i also like hemmed to fit better with taper cuts and i can go either way with wide leg cuts. half the time i hem straight legs half the time i don't. and my legs are shorter than yours.

>> No.17858978

>>17858952
You can send your jeans to Self Edge to get a Union Special chainstitch hemming for like $25 or something. They also have a darning machine for repairing any holes

>> No.17858982

>>17858978
self edge, t+y, blueowl, etc i think everyone should have easy mail in access to one except maybe australians. i live down the street from blueowl not having to ship to get hemming whenever i buy jeans that aren't from him is so nice.

>> No.17858997

>>17858952
>>17858959
Thanks for the posts, I learned more about hemming than I expected to. for now I’m going to use >>17858918 this Style cuff. Is there anything I should do to my Japan blues before wearing? I vaguely remember soaking my naked and famous jeans based off of something I read, but I’m not sure why I did it anymore. The Japan blues jb0601 fit well already. I’d be afraid to shrink then further in the crotch area.

>> No.17859045

>>17858997
>jb0601
cuffing 4" down that way will look good on that size leg opening, definitely.
nope, they're sanforized there's nothing you need to do to them. you can wear them as-is, or cold soak them if you want to remove starch and soften them up without changing the fit. totally up to you no wrong answer.
if you wear them in their fully raw state they might dye light color sneakers & upholstery at first as with any raws, the cuff helps prevent that a bit, so can soaking, if its a big concern. i just wear them with beater sneakers for a while when i get em.

>> No.17859063

>>17858997
may as well quote examples of every kind of hem in case anons are curious what they all look like.
the thing to note is the degree of horizontal twist. everything else is just how much the jeans have been worn:

my evisus >>17839375 have an "original hem" job (not recommended)
anon's wranglers here >>17843922 have a lockstitch hem
my uniqlos >>17858623 have a non union special chainstitch hem
and my paul rose jeans >>17839361 has a union special 43200g hem

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Any style inspo for wrangler? do you recommend any footwear? If I get boots how do I avoid looking like a cowboy larp?

>> No.17859441

>>17859063
You’re the man. I appreciate your help. If you or anyone else is interested I’ll post the Fades I have on my naked and famous and round house jeans.

>> No.17859945

Is Levis 501 occasionally offered with greencast denim? (I couldn't find so far any and I observed the offered colors for some longer time now)

>> No.17860288

>>17859441
post em up i do want to see

>> No.17860294

>>17848300
What did he mean by this

>> No.17860340

texan anons specifically, do you take any kind of offense to me wearing a levi's jacket with wrangler jeans or is this a sin i should avoid?
they look real good together.

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>>17860340
Trucker jacket and jeans is peak Americana/Canadiana.

>> No.17860369

>>17856622

i would like these if they were a bit slimmer

>> No.17860414

>>17860369
TCB S50s Slim

>> No.17860418

>>17856622
Reminds me a bit of jnco jeans from the 90s. Peak comfy

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>>17858623
I think I'm starting wrangler mwz13 dnz fade saturday. Been keeping an eye for more even found a red pair might be a fun fade. So excited.

>> No.17860512

>>17846722
the average /fa/ggot

>> No.17860553

>>17858623
really thought this pic was gonna be something else based on the thumb

>> No.17860633

>>17860496
Nvm red wranglers went up in price.

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>>17860288
1of2

>> No.17860990
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>>17860288
>>17860986
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>> No.17861241

we did it boys, bump limit
>>17860986
>>17860990
>slash pockets
>raw
>fiddy dollars
i'm going to have to try a pair of roundhouses one of these days... nice fades

>> No.17861270

>>17861241
The roundhouse jeans are a good introduction. The denim isn’t as soft as the naked and famous but it’s been holding up much better. The Fades come slower but the naked jeans are already getting holes in them despite I’ve worn the round house jeans more often and in more rough environments. For wholesale price I think you get more bang for your buck out of the roundhouse. I paid $65 for the nf jeans on eBay and at that price they’re still comparable. I’ll see how the Japan blues hold up. They’re the most stiff of all. The interior pockets on the Japan blues are nicer than normal too.

>> No.17861369

>>17860990
Wooooo those look amazing. What footwear is best with these I really like that cut.

>> No.17861409

>>17861369
The roundhouse were typically my work jeans wearing steal toed boots the others were typically for everything else, sneakers or flip flops. The roundhouse is their slim fit but still baggier than the weird guy NF jeans. They’re not selvedge but still have held up better than the NF jeans. I like the dye color of the NF jeans but they faded too quickly and isn’t as contrasted in the fades

>> No.17861510

>>17861409
Very cool I'll keep an eye on those those fades look great.

>> No.17861515

>>17861409
Do you size up or tts

>> No.17861665

>>17861515
They are both the same size but the roundhouse seem to run large. I purchased them about 5 years ago so I don’t know how they are today.

>> No.17861725

>>17861665
Thank you I ordered a few wranglers I'm waiting on ordered the 13mwz and the 936dnz. Cowboy Cut and slim cowboy cut.

>> No.17861743

>>17861725
Trying to figure sizing it's difficult with all these new stretch and types out there. Any wrangler guide.

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>>17861743
Bump cowboy cuts to drive you nuts

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17861994

Are these in the fade or naw?

>> No.17862016

>>17861994
They're fucked up because they weren't washed inside out.

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>>17862016
Thank you glad to know appreciate the guidance

>> No.17862217
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Can't let it die

>> No.17862763

>>17859406
>do you recommend any footwear?
White's semi dress
>If I get boots how do I avoid looking like a cowboy larp?
Don't get cowboy boots.

>> No.17862764

>>17862763
>White's semi dress
Or White's C350 cruiser

>> No.17862987

>>17862763
You are probably right. Been ordering and doing wranglers what goes well with these I wear mostly vans and steel toed workbooks. When I was younger I wore some chelsea boots I really liked. Not a big fan of chucka boots. Any recomendations?

>> No.17862990

>>17862987
>Any recomendations?
Yeah I just gave you two, White's C350 Cruiser, and White's Semi Dress.

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>>17862990
Thank you I've heard great things about whites. Those cruiser 350 I really like remind me of the tradional linesmen boots kinda liking those and the kinda biker boots. Should I just Spurge the 600 and know they are for life?

>> No.17863029

>>17863008
>Should I just Spurge the 600 and know they are for life?
Yes, make sure you get the right size, learn how to take care of leather boots, I'd recommend something like Venetian shoe cream or Saphir greasy leather cream, always clean before you condition them, and with high arch boots made entirely of leather you have to break it in by wearing it one hour the first day and double the amount of time you can wear them every day.