Fragrance General #954

[Anonymous No.17752452]

Discontinued: >>17748845

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W2C bottles
(USA-Canada)
http://www.fragrancenet.com
http://www.fragrancebuy.ca
http://www.luckyscent.com
https://www.fragrancex.com

Use Google to obtain the maximum discount code at fragrancenet (35%).

(Europe)
http://www.notino.com (see directory at bottom for your country)
https://www.jovoyparis.uk/
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General info
http://perfumesociety.org/discover-perfume/an-introduction/
https://nstperfume.com/2008/11/14/new-to-perfume-and-want-to-learn-more/
https://www.basenotes.net/features/3243-the-top-ten-niche-fragrances-every-beginner-should-sample
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Various fragrance communities/review sites/blogs
http://www.fragrantica.com/
http://www.basenotes.net/
http://www.parfumo.net/
http://www.nstperfume.com/
http://www.boisdejasmin.com/
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W2C samples
http://www.luckyscent.com/
http://www.theperfumedcourt.com/
https://www.fragrantworldshop.com/
http://www.surrendertochance.com/
http://www.perfumista.co.uk/
http://www.ausliebezumduft.de/fragrances.html
https://www.jovoyparis.uk/
https://www.lessenteurs.com/
https://bloomperfume.co.uk/
https://lulua.pl/en/
https://moodscentbar.com/en/
https://ecuacionnatural.com/
https://essenza-nobile.de/
https://www.lesecretdumarais.com/en/
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On DIY fragrances
http://www.perfumersapprentice.com/
https://pellwall.com/
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Affordable snice scents
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For /ourguy/ Luca Turin's books look up Library Genesis
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[Anonymous No.17752453]

>>17752452
The fragrance groups 101 chart.

[Anonymous No.17752454]

>>17752452
The fragrance flowchart for beginners.

[Anonymous No.17752457]

>>17752454
garbage as always

[Anonymous No.17752462]

>>17752380
>aftershave overpowers any other colonges
first of all, there is no cologne in the picture. aftershave are much lower concentration of oils compared to anything else so they are weaker. you just think AS is stronger because its directly under your nose
>>17752401
filtered sissy

[Anonymous No.17752466]

Which one of these three do you prefer, if you had to pick one?

Encre Noire A L'Extreme Lalique
Toy Boy Moschino
Stronger with you Intensely

[Anonymous No.17752473]

>>17752466
i’d rather shoot myself

[Anonymous No.17752479]

>>17752466
why those three? very random selection
anyway, I'd pick Encre Noire a l'Extreme. it's one of my favorites, especially for the price. very nice, slightly moody woody incense scent. only downside is that the performance is mediocre, but usable enough
Stronger with you Intensely is just a generic sugarbomb. I haven't smelled Toy Boy

[Anonymous No.17752481]

>>17752466
Toy Boy but that's because I really don't like the other two.

[Anonymous No.17752482]

>>17752462
>filtered sissy
Someone repost this noodle arms kid’s accidental selfie

[Anonymous No.17752483]

how do I smell like Chai?

[Anonymous No.17752484]

>>17752482
i see you’ve dropped the indian spam because it got you banned, rofl

[Anonymous No.17752488]

>>17752466
Encre Noire A L'Extreme Lalique

[Anonymous No.17752490]

>>17752483
Have you tried the fragrantica note search?

[Anonymous No.17752492]

>>17752490
no

[Anonymous No.17752495]

>>17752483
Jovoy Remember me is exactly what you're looking for
>>17752484
I just have never bothered to save a picture of you, but still find it hilarious how you doxxed yourself and insist spamming these threads while not knowing a shit

[Anonymous No.17752496]

>>17752495
oh, i doxed myself? feel free to post my name and address then, i’d love to see which sad sap you managed to pin down in your head as me.

[Anonymous No.17752505]

>>17752495
thanks

[Anonymous No.17752610]

rate my sample order:
>Bogue Profumo MAAI
>Bogue Profumo MEM
>Rogue Perfumery Mousse Illuminée
>Day Three Fragrances La Tacita De Café
>Senyokô Migration de L’Arbre
>Dusita Issara
>Dusita Erawan
>Dusita Le Sillage Blanc
>Papillon Artisan Perfumes Dryad
+1 for teh lulz:
>Imaginary Authors The Soft Lawn

[Anonymous No.17752612]

>>17752610
autistic

[Anonymous No.17752620]

>sample opium pour homme again and again, can't get enough of it
>buy it, apply it
>think it's kind of average and I don't need it
I hate it when that happens

[Anonymous No.17752623]

An anon in some discontinued threads recommended Greenley as a pinesol scent, similar to Apex. My samples arrived. Can't wait to test them.
-Millésime Impérial original, see if Armaf clone is really that close
-gentle fluidity, high praised juniper scent

[Anonymous No.17752624]

>>17752620
that’s because it actually is incredibly average and unremarkable.

[Anonymous No.17752631]

>>17752624
also thought it could be an office daily, but reviews suggest that it's more of a night scent and can offend people

[Anonymous No.17752632]

>>17752623
Ok, all fucking solid. Very surprised from Millesime Imperial. Same case with Aventus and CDNIM, dunno what youtube reviews are drinking.
CDNIM and Club de Milestone are fucking trash. Neither come close.
Greenley actually really good, in my book better than Apex. The apple is blended really well here. Nice one. Gentle fluidity is such a adoreable fresh, woody, almost piney scent. Forest scent lovers should give it a try.

[Anonymous No.17752635]

>>17752632
*reviewers

[Anonymous No.17752639]

>>17752631
i would avoid any sort of aromatic fougere in the office; unless you run the place, then feel free to wear azzaro pour homme.

[Anonymous No.17752642]

>>17752639
?
Those are office staples.

[Anonymous No.17752647]

>>17752642
i would fire anyone who wore cool water or drakkar noir to work. those are for play.

[Anonymous No.17752649]

>>17752647
what are your office safe suggestions?

[Anonymous No.17752651]

>>17752649
classical fougeres, chypres, or woods.

[Anonymous No.17752663]

Smells for this vibe? (I'm actually a 31 y/o virgin poorfag who's never left the country)

[Anonymous No.17752667]

>>17752610
Good. Very good anon. I think you picked up at least some of these from my posts, so let me assure you that you're at least on for a ride with some of these. That's a selection of niche fragrances of someone who smelled everything. Enjoy.

[Anonymous No.17752670]

>>17752663
I'm 30, /fit/, 6'4, have a model gf who is 9 years younger than me, and we're heading to Cote d'Azur and Portofino for vacations next week. I'm taking New York Intense and Etruscan Water with me.

[Anonymous No.17752681]

>>17752647
?
Those are office staples.
>>17752651
?
Those are classical fougeres.

[Anonymous No.17752684]

Are those fragrances really bad?

[Anonymous No.17752688]

>>17752684
They're mediocre. Original Valentino wasn't 100 miles from Dior Homme that some group of posters here is cumming all over. But you should never blindly buy a flanker of a designer fragrance.

[Anonymous No.17752689]

>>17752681
>drakkar noir and cool water are classical fougeres
yeah, you’re a retard

[Anonymous No.17752696]

im still not sure what to think about voyage d'hermes
it's a calming slightly fizzy green tea scent for me
but i really don't know when to use it
sometimes it smells like grandpa
other times theres something more juvenile coming through

[Anonymous No.17752700]

>get loads of samples
>like almost none of them

[Anonymous No.17752710]

>>17752696
>but i really don't know when to use it
anytime you want, really. I can't imagine anyone being offended by it. I used it as a warm weather date scent because it's spicy yet refreshing, but you could wear it to work as well
>sometimes it smells like grandpa
>other times theres something more juvenile coming through
I think it's more youthful than Terre, but I can imagine a man of any age wearing this and it wouldn't smell out of place. maybe you have some odd associations with the smell of fresh cardamom or green tea if it reminds you of grandpa

[Anonymous No.17752714]

>>17752710
i find its a bit too bougie for work
dates could be a thing
nothing for going out imo
>odd associations
yeah pretty sure i do
im gonna wear it around the hose to get a feel for it
you the guy that wore it on a date?

[Anonymous No.17752730]

>>17752700
That's a good thing. Now imagine that you're one of these blindbuying retards and you'd end up with loads of bottles you like almost none of.

[Anonymous No.17752744]

>>17752714
>nothing for going out imo
I'll agree with that, it's not loud enough and too calming for that
>you the guy that wore it on a date?
yep. I'm still with that girl. she looks very nordic, so maybe the Bisch coomer should invest in some Voyage as well

[Anonymous No.17752745]

>>17752714
you are not wrong in stating that ellena’s minimalism is bourgeoise. his style is so refined and stripped down that it completely lacks any of the sort of earthly pleasures or carnality that classical perfumery espouses. in more simple words, it’s horribly unsexy. voyage is less terminally asexual than terre d’hermes infamously is, but all of ellena’s fragrances (and indeed, every masculine/unisex from hermes post-bel ami) shares the same fundamental DNA, and therefore are all guilty of it to some degree. best to look elsewhere if one is looking for perfumery that is more in touch with physical reality and not halfway to the ether.

[Anonymous No.17752746]

>>17752744
>I'm still with that girl
damn congrats anon
here's hoping voyage'll help me too
>>17752745
i mean it does smell really nice
as in it has a calming effect on me
but i'd probably wear it only on special occasions

[Anonymous No.17752747]

>>17752730
yeah at least i'm able to figure out what categories of frags i really don't like

[Anonymous No.17752757]

>>17752689
?
Define "classical fougere".

[Anonymous No.17752758]

>>17752745
nothing wrong with more austere and etherial scents. personally I'm glad that Hermes tries to have its own distinct DNA and doesn't just copy whatever is trendy like most other designers seem to do nowadays
not all perfume has to have a sensual, warm base. there is a place for refined work fragrances and calming, refreshing scents too, and this is where modern Hermes shines

[Anonymous No.17752768]

>>17752757
NTA, but Drakkar Noir and Cool Water are aromatic fougeres and Cool Water especially is far from classical. classical fougeres were things like Fougere Royale or Jicky. more dandyish and without dihydromercanol or other later synthetics

[Anonymous No.17752784]

>>17752746
my problem with the modern hermes style is that i simply can’t wrap my head around when it would be appropriate. mind you, i really like how idiosyncratic h24 is, but when would i wear it? it’s too straightlaced and inhuman for black tie (which demands some element of dandification to lift the severity), it lacks any sort of casualness for daily wear, and it doesn’t have the requisite structure that a chypre or classical fougere would for the office. it stands everywhere and nowhere at once, and i can’t bring myself to pay for a bottle the same way i eagerly eat up eau d’hermes, equipage and bel ami.
>>17752757
an accord fundamentally based on coumarin and lavender. pioneered by fougere royale, iterated upon by jicky, brut, canoe, blue stratos, and on the road to the aromatic fougere, grey flannel.
>>17752758
nothing wrong? sure. but nothing right either. other designers (a meaningless category) succumbing to worse is not an excuse. as for work fragrances and warm bases, see the above regarding chypres and fougeres (and also juiced up eau de colognes like eau d’hermes, eau sauvage and eau de guerlain).

[Anonymous No.17752788]

>>17752784
hmm h24 is another fragrance i've been told you could wear literally everywhere

[Anonymous No.17752790]

>>17752788
if you had no other fragrances, perhaps, but anyone with a sizable enough and diverse collection will quickly realize that there’s always a more appropriate option for anywhere they’d wear H24 to. again, everywhere and nowhere at once.

[Anonymous No.17752799]

>>17752784
is chypre or classical fougere really a requisite for work for you? that sounds quite arbitrary and antiquated to me
I think a fragrance like H24 or Terre is perfect for modern day office use. serious and professional, yet fresh and airy enough not to annoy people. I enjoy this type of straight-laced, yet transparent fragrance in the workplace. it helps that most of them are a little calming as well

[Anonymous No.17752807]

Anybody here buy rep fragrance concentrations? How do they compare to the real deal?
Image unrelated.

[Anonymous No.17752816]

>>17752799
what chypres and fougeres (both classical and aromatic) bring to the table is stability and structure; a coherent, deliberate skeleton that dictates the way the perfume develops on the skin over time. ellena’s minimalism completely eschews this; it’s not linear perfumery by any stretch of the imagination, but it is effectively formless in the way that accords do not have any meaningful way of connecting to one another. i’m not of the belief that surface aesthetics are enough to dictate something’s usefulness, there must be a legibility and coherence to the accord that exists not just at 7am on first spray, but at 5pm at the end of the work day. hermes’ modern minimalism (and yes, most modern “designer” fragrances) critically lack this foresight in their thinking

[Anonymous No.17752836]

Blind bought Vi et armis and it's fucking shit.

[Anonymous No.17752839]

>>17752836
hahaha, serves you right

[Anonymous No.17752853]

First impressions of my decants I ordered from Ecuacion:

>Baraonda
Beautiful composition that reminds me to an alcoholic atomic rose. Classic blend of rose and airy non animalic musk with some spicy and whisky notes to give it a sexual propositive edge. Beautiful, but not bottle worthy in my opinion. Unoriginal.

>Haxan

Reminds me of the mountains of the Basque country during autumn, specially the big plains near aitzgorri. Specific, but it seems to evoque the hikes i was going for there as a teen and the smells of grass, the farm animals and the herbs. Interesting and photorealistic, but unpleasant.

>Ma Nishtana

One of the greatest openings I've ever smelled, and best eclesiastic incense I've ever tried. Shame that after an hour all I get is smoke, woods and curry.

>Mousse iluminee

Beautiful incisive classic fougere. Slighty chemical smelling on the opening and doesn't develop much. Gets boring after six hours smelling the same extremely potent moss.

[Anonymous No.17752925]

>>17752452
Does anyone know a good fragrance that smells like mint and cigarettes?

A girl on the buss yesterday smelled of smoke and mint, it smelled heavenly

[Anonymous No.17752928]

>>17752649
>gq says that versace eros is an office scent
also rec me a fragrance for when I want to smell like a race horse who just crossed the finish line

[Anonymous No.17752937]

>>17752928
Derby or Bel Ami

[Anonymous No.17752941]

>>17752853
>Haxan
This is literally a Niche Drakkar Noir. Good one.

[Anonymous No.17752961]

Tried a few of Hermes' fragrances today and was let down especially as people really love terre d'hermes but the citrus just is too overpowering for my liking. Their other ones smelled ok but nothing spectacular. What are some other brands I should try? I basically love Creed Aventus and Mont Blanc Explorer.

[Anonymous No.17752968]

>>17752961
TdH is too zesty (in both sense of the word) to begin with, but the basenotes are nice

[Anonymous No.17752973]

>>17752941
You literally have no idea what you’re talking about

[Anonymous No.17752977]

>>17752961
>What are some other brands I should try?
Dior, Chanel and Guerlain

[Anonymous No.17753024]

>>17752937
same if you're professionally trolling at the olympics?

[Anonymous No.17753075]

>>17752977
a tall order for someone whose idea of good starts and ends at aventus

[Anonymous No.17753086]

>>17752973
>You literally have no idea what you’re talking about
Do you? It has fougere elements similar to Drakkar Noir, but more musky-animalic.

[Anonymous No.17753111]

>>17753086
You’ve never smelled it. This really ends that discussion.

[Anonymous No.17753119]

>>17753111
Tongue my ass, schizo

[Anonymous No.17753124]

It upsets me that Creed fragrances smell so good but their performance is so bad.

Silver Mountain Water is probably my favourite scent of all time but it barely lasts three hours.

Are there any similar fragrances that last longer?

I know citrus/green frags typically don’t last long as the notes evaporate quickly.

Woe is me.

[Anonymous No.17753136]

>>17753124
>Creed fragrances smell so good
roflmao

[Anonymous No.17753138]

>>17753136
I know right? What had happened to these threads? Where is the High IQ poster when you need him?

[Anonymous No.17753166]

>>17752651
to me those are rather heavy and on the offensive side

[Anonymous No.17753176]

>>17753166
Being able to wear them is a privilege few can afford. I wouldn't worry about it.

[Anonymous No.17753182]

>>17753136
>>17753138
Creed fragrances objectively smell good.

Overpriced? Yes.
Questionable performance? Yes.

Just because they’re popular now and not some ultra niche autistic house doesn’t mean they’re still not good fragrances.

They’ve influenced countless dupes and high street clones.

Most of the time I think /fa/ hate on things because they don’t have a successful career and still live with their parents.

Fashion isn’t a cheap hobby.

[Anonymous No.17753194]

>>17753182
oy vey families shouldn't stick together

[Anonymous No.17753197]

>>17753182
They are incredibly crude and worse of all: are for Indians and football players.

We don't want them, we don't like them, and I can't wait for a day when people stop buying them and male perfumery can move on.

[Anonymous No.17753223]

>>17753194
>>17753197
One thing I've noticed is people talking negative about Creed being generic. Do y'all know the release date of some of these fragrances (actual release dates, none of that BS 1700's released stuff, I'm talking 80's - current)? And just how innovative they were at time of release? It's because of influence and others that came AFTER the Creed's that make the Creed's seem 'generic'. Do you have any idea how hard it is to have a catalog like Creed's going back to the 80's of largely original pieces that are also mainstream appeal? Sure, you can name similar fragrances to some/a lot now. But what about -release date-.

Name something that makes these generic smelling that was released BEFORE the Creed's were:

Aventus - anything before 2010 that smelled like it? It was a new & mainstream appeal fragrance, that's already a feat.

Bois du Portugal - anything before 1987?

Erolfa - before 1992?

Green Irish m'fing Tweed - before 1985?

Millesime Imperial - before 1995? Windsor/Royal Mayfair - before '09, Royal Water? VIW? Etc. You get the point.

I also have an inkling that perhaps on one or more of the releases that smell similar to prior ones, actually had that perfumer work on it (a slight hunch - such as XS and Himalaya?).

So basically I hate seeing people call Creed generic, etc. When it's in fact BECAUSE of some of their creations and such over time that's caused them to appear so. Creed is a fantastic house. Sure, pricing may be high for many, and the history is ass, but scents speak for themselves

[Anonymous No.17753225]

>>17753166
>chypres
>woods
>heavy
rofl
>>17753182
>>17753223
you’re shitting yourself over pierre bourdon’s leftovers, buddy. get over yourself.

[Anonymous No.17753289]

I’m new to this and just starting to build my collection.

Can some OG’s recommend their #1 favorite fragrance and a quick rundown of how it smells?

[Anonymous No.17753311]

>>17753289
CK Be
sexo in a forest

[Anonymous No.17753330]

>>17753289
Start here >>17752454 That's the chart made exactly for you. Start testing things available in your local drug stores/department stores/perfumeries, and go deeper from the inner circle of 10 fragrances. Do. not. buy. many. full. bottles. Give yourself at least a month or two. You can start ordering decants of fragrances you liked onine (Parfumo SUOK, look for your local Facebook perfume groups or forums). You'll be tempted to buy bottles many times but don't give to it.

[Anonymous No.17753336]

is black aoud really a good example of an oud? i hate it

[Anonymous No.17753347]

>>17753336
It's a great example of synthetic oud (like in 99% of fragrances), and of a particular, popular subgenre of oud+rose mix.

[Anonymous No.17753350]

>>17753330
Thanks. I already blind bought two full bottles online just from watching videos and reading this general. I guess its a good idea to wait a while.

But do you have a favorite fragrance that I should add to my backlog? I’m making a list

[Anonymous No.17753446]

Uhhm, guys?

[Anonymous No.17753474]

Which fragrance will go with this?

[Anonymous No.17753485]

Recently got a 50ml of z&v him edt for the coming colder seasons.

When I applied this from store samples on the wrist I had a positive impression from the drydown: creamy vanilla, a bit synthetic but it kind of imitated the peppery and citrusy vanilla of chanel homme allure edt that i like with a longer lasting but a bit synthetic peppery grapefruit-vanilla. anyways it scratched the itch i had

Now that I have it, it’s much more synthetic and unpleasant. Thoughts? I’m thinking of letting it oxidize and seeing in a month

[Anonymous No.17753502]

What are some male oriented frags that are also good on females?

[Anonymous No.17753545]

>>17753446
Said to cost 280lb
>356USD

[Anonymous No.17753548]

Anyone else get mongolian mriga ?

Probably the heaviest musk and fecal oud fragrance I've ever worn. Beautiful as an art piece you can wear at home and appreciate but unwearable outside compared to the normal mriga

[Anonymous No.17753564]

>>17753548
Coincidentally, I ordered Haxan yesterday with samples of Mongolian Mriga and Anatolia Anatolia. I really loved the OG Mriga, so looking forward smelling Mongolian Mriga. Are you also eying the ALD classic set on 19th? $1550 sounds quite reasonable, given that it's basically made entirely of his big-hitters. I think I will go for it.

[Anonymous No.17753654]

>>17753548
>Probably the heaviest musk and fecal oud fragrance I've ever worn
so it literally smells like armpits and turds and you guys spend $250 to wear it at home?

meanwhile some guy out there is getting pussy every day with old spice body spray

[Anonymous No.17753662]

>>17753654
Not him, but I'm getting pussy anyway. It may seem abstract for you, but that's really nothing to brag about.

[Anonymous No.17753683]

>>17753662
I’ve been in a relationship for a year and a half.
The only abstraction I’m struggling with here is the $300 schaub spray.

[Anonymous No.17753694]

>>17753683
Are we supposed to be impressed?

[Anonymous No.17753711]

>>17753694
You type like someone who smokes cock. Way too sassy to be straight.

[Anonymous No.17753744]

>>17752784
>>17752977
>>17752784
This is the Indian twink. Ignore him he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

[Anonymous No.17753749]

>>17752816
This is the Indian noodle arm kid. Ignore him. Or else I’ll post another picture of him. Kek

[Anonymous No.17753768]

Post your arm and your SOTD

SOTD: The canary and the cobra

[Anonymous No.17753837]

>>17753330
garbage as always

[Anonymous No.17753841]

>>17753744
>>17753749
looks like someone’s vacation just ended

[Anonymous No.17753851]

>>17752466
Toy boy is a shit cold almost mentholated rose. Smells like declaration soir and hermann. I can't stand that kind of rose. Stronger with Yous are all just a sweet melange where you can't really identify anything in it. Encre Noire extreme is okay but I dont really like that kind of dark smoky incense. I like the original Encre Noire and sport is an okay normie scent, kind of like fierce mixed with EN

[Anonymous No.17753858]

>>17752620
happens with every frag that I ever like

[Anonymous No.17753862]

>>17753182
what are you saying? they all smell good? fuck you

[Anonymous No.17753864]

>>17753862
any and all excuses to defend his anglo masters

[Anonymous No.17753905]

>>17753289
Dior Homme Parfum is probably my favorite to actually wear. on my skin it starts with a slightly smoky leather contrasted with a powdery iris, just a bit of orange peel and a slight booziness
in the heart the rose and musky ambrette come out. makes me think of a rose jam, but smoky. the muskiness has a slight dirty edge to it, not sure if that's a bit of oud or an animalic facet of the leather
in the far drydown, the creamy sandalwood starts to dominate and the more gourmand notes come out as well, with cocoa and a bit of vanilla

[Anonymous No.17753913]

>>17753905
lol gay

[Anonymous No.17753925]

>>17752620
>Buy a 2ml sample
Love the scent
>Finish it
>Buy a 5ml sample
>Loved it
>Buy the biggest bottle
>Disgusting smell
>Compare it with the sample
>Also fucking sucks

Battito d'ali fucked my nose after 7 ml

[Anonymous No.17753972]

i think i might have oversprayed drakkar noir this morning. 5 sprays was 1 or 2 too many.

[Anonymous No.17753991]

>>17752961
Eau intense vetiver and eau givree are their best creations. Try them next time.

>aventus
into the garbage bin

[Anonymous No.17753995]

>>17753446
goys will jump on it

[Anonymous No.17754002]

>>17753991
watery elenaslop is far from the best thing in hermes’ back catalogue

[Anonymous No.17754005]

>>17754002
>memeslop

meh,still doesn't change the reality
People can verify themselves,lmao

[Anonymous No.17754006]

>>17754005
the reality that elena’s formless slop doesn’t hold a candle to hermes’ legacy fragrances? i agree.

[Anonymous No.17754014]

>>17754006
>muh legacy
>muh elena

despite the systematic trannyfication of western societies, some frag houses saw a tangible improvement this decade

the frags mentioned by me were creations of Christine Nagel not elenaslops. now go back to spraying aventus

[Anonymous No.17754021]

>>17754014
christine nagel is a great perfumer, but a brief to create flankers to elenaslop is not a turd that even the likes of her can turn into gold. if you really like her work, go buy a bottle of h24, and then galop and twilly for good measure.

[Anonymous No.17754031]

>>17753502
Kouros
Drakkar Noir
Yatagan

[Anonymous No.17754032]

>>17754021
>h24
>aromatic banana peel & cat piss

So i guess her best works were indeed Intense vetiver and eau givree. Thanks for clarifying that

[Anonymous No.17754036]

>>17754014
why do you hate aventus so much? its my favorite

[Anonymous No.17754042]

>>17754032
oh, it’s this retard again. explains a lot.

[Anonymous No.17754049]

>>17754042
>this
you confuse me with someone else ,someone with based opinions i guess
>>17754036
grow up

[Anonymous No.17754051]

>>17754049
no, just the same moron screaming about bananas and H24 all day again, incapable of looking past surface aesthetics to see accords for what they really are.

[Anonymous No.17754052]

is "surface aesthetics" the new "photorealistic"?

[Anonymous No.17754055]

>>17754052
not really, just a description for what people are fixating over when they refuse to shut up about individual notes and not how these notes mix together and develop over time.

[Anonymous No.17754056]

Anons what is sexier, La Nuit de l'Homme or Black Orchid?

[Anonymous No.17754061]

>>17754056
having a personality, interests, goals in life, and the determination to pursue them.

[Anonymous No.17754063]

>>17754051
>no, just the same

i've never talked about h24 before on /fa/ board. You're confusing me with someone else. And maybe we're both right and you're wrong. imagine that travesty

[Anonymous No.17754064]

>>17754061
Already got those, just testing my fragrances for a date I have.

[Anonymous No.17754065]

A fragrance for this vid? https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dw7OfWfky-E

[Anonymous No.17754068]

>>17754063
or maybe you’re both shallow retards incapable of connecting their noses to their brains, stuck in a tiny world of obsessing over whether a fragrance checks all the right boxes of arbitrary notes and not caring at all about execution or refinement.

[Anonymous No.17754072]

>>17754056
Black Orchid. the La Nuit de l'Homme DNA is getting really overdone and just blends in with other "sexy date scent" designers too much. Black Orchid is still one of Tom Ford's best scents and there isn't much else that smells like it

[Anonymous No.17754077]

>>17754068
yeah clearly,it's exactly that

[Anonymous No.17754078]

>>17754072
Thanks anon, I agree with you a lot, just sprayed some a few minutes ago again and I really love it.
I love that orangey chocolate smell.
The whole thing is more interesting.

[Anonymous No.17754079]

>>17754065
>weird normie influencer shit in German
Fragrance One - Office for men

[Anonymous No.17754081]

>>17754077
very nice selfie, but don’t you think it would be more suited to a WAYWT thread than the fragrance general?

[Anonymous No.17754084]

>>17754081
>no u

are u ok lilbro?

[Anonymous No.17754086]

>>17754084
who are you quoting? you seem confused and lost, i’m not your brother.

[Anonymous No.17754091]

reminder to report off-topic arguments that may or may not be done by one person pretending to argue with himself

[Anonymous No.17754099]

>>17754091
This

[Anonymous No.17754104]

>>17754099
this, so much this!

[Anonymous No.17754119]

>>17754049
>grow up
is aventus for kids? i genuinely dont know why you hate it so much and im actually curious

[Anonymous No.17754121]

>>17754036
I imagine it's something like Dorsia. Everytime Aventus is mentioned anon hears it whispered in a mysterious voice in his head and feels infinitely mogged because it's out of his reach

[Anonymous No.17754122]

>>17754119
for second and third world teenagers who buy into aspirational middle luxury, yeah

[Anonymous No.17754123]

>>17754121
contrary to what you may believe, no, owning a $400 bottle of smelly water does not make you “literally patrick bateman”.

[Anonymous No.17754128]

>SOTD: Tauer L'Air Des Alpes Suisses
very clean and fresh scent, smells a bit like a pine forest, perfect for spring/summer/fall, i'd gladly wear this to the office as well
this does not seem to share the base with the popular Tauer frags (or it's very well blended)
>10/10

[Anonymous No.17754129]

>>17754122
oh, fair enough. i just like the smell, don't really care about the brand or "luxury" fragrance

[Anonymous No.17754131]

>>17754128
10/10s become a meaningless signifier when they’re handed out to every other second or third fragrance

[Anonymous No.17754133]

>>17754131
yeah, but this is really one of my favorites so there's that

[Anonymous No.17754150]

>>17753905
Wow very gay indeed.

[Anonymous No.17754153]

Should I order 100ml of aventus or 100ml of portrait of a lady

[Anonymous No.17754155]

Sotd Guerlain Coriolan
Cariolan is a men’s fragrance, presented in 1998 in a woody chypre composition. It is dedicated to the man full of contrast: to Coriolan, a legendary Roman general who was said to be powerful and strong, pride and confident, barer of nobility, braveness and love. Coriolanus has inspired Shakespeare, Plutarh and Beethoven. He was the man who accomplished all of his goals, not because of his glory, but because of a woman he loved. The character of this great man inspired Jean-Paul Guerlain to make this fragrance; to celebrate freedom of the spirit and love with carnal pleasures and seduction. The perfume is made out of lemon leafs, bergamot, neroli and petit grain at the top notes, its heart ticking in a passionate rhythm of spicy fusion of ginger, nutmeg, ylang-ylang and gorse; settling at the warm woody base of patchouli, benzoin and leather. The elegant glass bottle was designed by Jean-Paul Guerlian in association with Robert Granai. The top and the curves on the side of the bottle are made out of bronze.

[Anonymous No.17754156]

Where is the goth rock fag? Last thing he said, he said he was probably really sick, is he okay

[Anonymous No.17754157]

>>17754155
a shame that JPG’s swan song was ultimately mediocre and undistinguished; an unworthy sequel to derby and heritage.

[Anonymous No.17754164]

>>17753474
L'occitane en provance. Not Eau des Baux but the blue one that's just L'occitane

[Anonymous No.17754169]

>>17754079
>office for men
Smells like BDC, Invictus or any other modern grapefruit/apple ambroxan fragrance.
He shits on seething roasties getting angry at tradwives: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-bYHUyWCa4

[Anonymous No.17754170]

>>17754157
It’s very distinguished and a suitable closure to derby and heritage. It just couldn’t sell to the simple minded. It still confuses the virgin Dior homo wearer.

[Anonymous No.17754176]

Is Tobacco Vanille Tom Ford’s best fragrance?

I think so.

[Anonymous No.17754177]

>>17754170
not at all, it’s too dull and solemn in overall affect; turin compared it to fahrenheit without the edge which is entirely correct. it misses the resplendent glory of heritage or the virile confidence of derby. it lacked the personality to sell, or turn itself into a classic. i doubt we will ever see it reissued.

[Anonymous No.17754180]

>>17754176
nah, Black Orchid and Tuscan Leather are better and more unique
Tobacco Vanille was really just another take on a sweet tobacco fragrance. following in the footsteps of Chergui and Eau des Baux

[Anonymous No.17754183]

>>17754176
Nope, Oud Minerale.

[Anonymous No.17754184]

>>17754177
the guy you're replying to probably hasn't even smelled it. he's just here to shitpost and politicsbait

[Anonymous No.17754190]

>>17754177
turn is an overrated hack and I don't care what he thinks

t. nta just sick of this blowhard being quoted like it mean anything

[Anonymous No.17754191]

>>17754177
It’s already been reissued as L’Ame d’un Héros at a much higher price tag. Interesting that he compared it to Fahrenheit, I’m also a big fan of it but consider them different. Coriolan is a good summer wear. It opens like a fresh cologne. Maybe similar to Guerlain imperiale and has lots of transitions to keep it interesting like habit rouge. It ends like a classic chypre, similar to eau sausage. If you’re into classic perfumery I highly recommend this one.

[Anonymous No.17754192]

>>17754184
Nice comment. What do you think president Trump wears? I’d imagine he smells like guerlain heritage.

[Anonymous No.17754194]

>>17754190
Turin is a world renowned biophysicists who has proposed a theory of scent. He's also intimately acquainted with the now lost art of high European glamour.

What the fuck have you ever done.

[Anonymous No.17754195]

>>17754190
turin has smelled a hundredfold more fragrances than you have, and is a thousand times a more eloquent writer than anyone on this thread. he earned his place and keep as perfume critic long before anyone here even began playing with their father’s aftershave in the bathroom.
>>17754191
so has derby, but both were killed not too long ago along with the whole parissiennes line. and unlike derby or mouchoir de monsieur, where i see a reissue being a possibility in the near or distant future, i doubt guerlain will bother with pushing coriolan to the public under yet another new name once again.
to be fair, it is not a bad fragrance, it does not live up to the standards set by its predecessors.

[Anonymous No.17754197]

>>17754036
We have been over this countless times, it's crude.

[Anonymous No.17754198]

>>17754191
also, once again, eau sauvage is not a fucking chypre. having an oakmoss base and a bergamot opening is not enough for something to count as a chypre.

[Anonymous No.17754199]

what's the best oud perfume to attract Muslim women?

[Anonymous No.17754200]

>>17754156
He went out in a cloud of Dita Von tees brand perfume.

[Anonymous No.17754204]

>>17754031
Drakkar Noir and Yatagan sound promising
I'm not sure about Kouros though
What about the male oriented Encre Noir on women?

[Anonymous No.17754219]

>>17754195
I wish derby would come back. I have a sample of it and love it. Just not for the price it’s currently going for. I’ve also never smelled mdm. Have you? Is it similar to Jicky? And I wouldn’t say Coriolan doesn’t live up to its predecessors, such as Guerlain vetiver, habit rouge, heritage, samsara, derby, etc, it was just built and sold at the wrong time. I think it would have a better chance at selling today than in the late 90s. Seems like classical styles are gaining popularity in perfumery.

[Anonymous No.17754221]

>>17754198
Kek, why isn’t it a chypre? Not saying you’re wrong but it has the citrus, floral, mossy combo. And I’m saying the late dry down on Coriolan is very similar to my nose to eau sausage.

[Anonymous No.17754231]

>>17754195
>appeal to authority
typical turin simp

[Anonymous No.17754232]

>>17754221
a chypre is defined by the trifecta of bergamot, labdanum and oakmoss. eau sauvage is missing the second of that list, and when compared to a true chypre like the adjacent pour monsieur, is missing the core skeletal structure that defines all chypres. what eau sauvage actually is is simply a spruced up floral eau de cologne, not unlike acqua di parma colonia or eau de guerlain, with a healthy dose of hedione to differentiate it from the rest.

[Anonymous No.17754235]

>>17754231
when did i appeal to turin’s authority? i just said that his word is not absolutely meaningless given his experience and ability to articulate himself.

[Anonymous No.17754237]

>>17754235
when you posted the words you did
don't care what he thinks of any perfumes, if anything huffing that much perfume probably damages your nose and renders you utterly incapable of understanding what smells good to the overwhelming majority of people. I'm sure if you huff it enough, jenkem starts to smell like a work of genius

[Anonymous No.17754238]

>>17754204
>What about the male oriented Encre Noir on women?
that cute fragrance youtuber who appeared on the perfume guy's channel a few times said it was her favorite fragrance in high school or college IIRC

[Anonymous No.17754240]

>>17754199
>to attract Muslim women?
You have to attract her father first.

[Anonymous No.17754245]

>>17754237
oh, so you’re just being stupid on purpose, carry on.

[Anonymous No.17754260]

>>17754204
Encore Noire's a good choice, fairly unisex imo. Kouros is a bit much I was just playing.

Aramis is good on women too since it's so similar to bernard chants other feminines.

[Anonymous No.17754262]

>>17754245
will do, keep on soaking yourself in NYI, I'm sure the bitches love it

[Anonymous No.17754263]

>>17754231
It's an appeal to knowledge and expertise you silly goose.

[Anonymous No.17754264]

>>17754180
Depends on gender IMO.

Black Orchid is a women’s perfume.

Tuscan Leather you might as well wear Ombré Leather.

Chergui smells better on a woman and TV better on a man. Chergui is too sweet for me and lacks some of the spicier notes of TV (clove etc.)

[Anonymous No.17754266]

>>17754262
gladly; it’s a great fragrance, i will wear it to please myself and no one else.

[Anonymous No.17754267]

Did Guerlain ever do an 80s powerhouse masculine?

[Anonymous No.17754269]

>>17754267
yes, Derby

[Anonymous No.17754274]

>>17754260
aramis would be terrible on most women today for the same reasons cabochard is: it’s terribly unfeminine and particularly unforgiving and austere. a fantastic fragrance, but few women today have the stomach for it.

[Anonymous No.17754291]

>>17754274
Maybe few of the women you know...

[Anonymous No.17754292]

>>17754291
few women, and few men too, for the matter.

[Anonymous No.17754293]

>literal no ones who’ve been into perfumes for 3 months talking shit about Luca Turin

[Anonymous No.17754296]

>>17754232
Not arguing that Eau Sauvage is a chypre but you clearly don’t know what a chypre can be neither

[Anonymous No.17754298]

>>17754292
We live very different lives it seems...

[Anonymous No.17754301]

>>17754296
explain how my definition of a chypre is incorrect. that trio defines mitsouko, it defines cabochard, it defines pour monsieur, it defines givenchy iii, it defines diorella, it defines every chypre in every category ever made. it certainly does not define eau sauvage, or any other simple citrus cologne.

[Anonymous No.17754307]

>>17754262
>keep on soaking yourself in NYI, I'm sure the bitches love it
What are your 5 favorite fragrances? You don’t even have to post photo. Just tell us

[Anonymous No.17754309]

>>17754240
feels like the whole Rolex AD thing all over again

[Anonymous No.17754338]

>>17754301
Your definition r from Wikipedia doesn’t account for many other fragrances that are considered chypres. I don’t mean Eau Sauvage here, albeit it is arguably chypre-y. You see trees but cant see the forest. You are correct about the classically required ingredients. You are correct about the effect it causes; spanning three orthogonal axes giving it’ll a fragrance proper structure to build upon and develop. But you don’t seem to be able to abstract from that and understand why it’s the case. I could give you examples of fragrances without bergamot, without oakmoss, and without labdanum that are chypres. What is the role of each of these ingredients in the chypre structure? Would you be able to substitute any with a functionally equivalent note?

[Anonymous No.17754340]

>>17754338
you haven’t named a single fragrance which counts as a chypre but doesn’t contain those accords, you’ve just hypothesized about their possible existence (in the case of oakmoss substitutes, yes, but labdanum and bergamot are essential components in every instance given how paramount they are to the chypre’s resinous top-down structure). a lot of words that unfortunately say little.

[Anonymous No.17754345]

Some recent samples. Will probably cop a bottle of Silver Mountain Water and Tobacco Vanille.

SMW is probably the nicest summer fragrance I’ve sampled recently. The tea note is superb.

[Anonymous No.17754347]

>>17754345
terribly embarrassing stuff

[Anonymous No.17754352]

SOTD: Rasei Fort Kolonya. What a pity it was discontinued. What are you wearing today, lads?
>>17754340
I haven't because I'm not going to spoonfeed you. I dislike your know-it-all attitude and looking down at other posters just because you read two articles on the internet. But I can help you work it out yourself if you wish. To start with:
> but labdanum and bergamot are essential components in every instance
You are wrong twice here. You still cannot abstract the chypre structure because you don't really seem to fully understand the role of the ingredients in the accord (and what makes chypre a chypre). I assume you are actually familiar with the examples of what you (or rather what was historically) consider chypres. There is a hint hidden for you in the opening of one of them, contradicting your memorized definitions.

[Anonymous No.17754356]

>>17754352
you know and i know that the “no spoonfeeding” excuse is a cop out, but at the very minimum you could do better at pretending that the cop out is out of spite and not shameful necessity.
>or rather what was historically consider chypres
there is no “historic” definition of chypres. there is only one definition of a chypre; the oakmoss ban necessitating the use of new fixatives does not magically make those new fixatives equivalent to a chypre accord, and in any case fractured low atranol oakmoss has partially solved the problem. likewise to an even lesser and more insignificant extent with bergamot and citrus oils. any “chypre” made in the post-IFRA dark ages made without the fundamental materials is simply not a chypre, just an approximation of one. pretending otherwise is folly.

[Anonymous No.17754358]

whats a good summer frag for a severely autistic shut in 20yo neet? dhp is my winter frag

[Anonymous No.17754371]

>>17754347
Terribly embarrassing to the 0.1% of autistic neckbeards on /fa/

Smells great to the remaining 99.9% of the population.

Go touch some grass anon.

[Anonymous No.17754373]

>>17754371
>appeal to popularity and ignorance
roflmao

[Anonymous No.17754375]

>>17754356
>you know and i know that
I don't know that but understand that you want to believe it because of your fragile ego. I don't owe you anything, but can start guiding you with examples if you show any sign of understanding what is chypre. However, at the moment, your entire post about bad IFRA and finding other fixatives doesn't show any sign of that. BTW it's not IFRA who's the biggest offender but for that you would need, again, to have a bit deeper knowledge than reading two articles on the topic. You making circles around largely irrelevant aspects, might be a bit of my fault though, as I asked you
> Would you be able to substitute any with a functionally equivalent note?
And you seem to focused on "functionally" too much. I meant functionally equivalent NOTE not INGREDIENT if that helps, as in what is the role of that NOTE in the composition. What does it contribute to the whole accord? You mentioned five examples of chypres and I'm happy to start working here. Have you actually smelled and understand those, or again you are just copy-pasting someone else's opinions from the internet?

[Anonymous No.17754376]

the GOAT

[Anonymous No.17754378]

>>17754371
You're replying to an schizophrenic kid from India.

[Anonymous No.17754380]

I'm an Acqua di Gio everywhere for every occasion kind of guy. I also like Aramis Havana but the wife hates it so I don't wear it too much.

Also if you like fragrance talk, check out the perfume nationalist

[Anonymous No.17754383]

>>17754380
Begging and advertising is a bannable offence. Fuck off, Jack. Go shill your shit podcast elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.17754384]

>>17754358
Jeanne en Provence Neroli Intense
Jeanne en Provence Aqcua

Both are cheap, cheerful and easy to wear.

[Anonymous No.17754385]

>>17754345
How is Ambre sultan
been meaning to try it
I have grand soir - I love it, but i'm running low and the new bottles are shit so i'm looking for something in the same vein

[Anonymous No.17754386]

>>17754380
>its another jack complains about 2010s hipster white women because he had a job where he was subordinate to them
>its another ortant spends the entire episode comparing perfumes to colours and music like an autist and bores both the guest and listener alike.

[Anonymous No.17754391]

>>17754358
DHP is also my favorite
if you're truly a shut-in neet who doesn't care what anyone thinks, you might enjoy Chanel No. 19, that has some nice iris as well but is very green and cooling overall
Dior Homme Original is also a good option

[Anonymous No.17754392]

>>17754375
i’m not interested in your pseudointellectual condescension. all you’ve done is claim my statements are invalid while failing to make any of your own, while also inserting irrelevant moralistic spiels and baseless ad hominem. a whole lot of words to say a whole lot of nothing.

[Anonymous No.17754393]

>>17754386
Now imagine that the guy wants people to pay for listening to that lmao.

[Anonymous No.17754394]

>>17754383

I don't think Jack would wear either of those but the show is what got me wearing scents.

[Anonymous No.17754397]

>>17754376
just a glorified fresher PR 1million

[Anonymous No.17754403]

>>17754392
You're backpedalling, just as I expected. Pity. If you want to actually start developing your understanding of chypres beyond the superficial level, you can start with Givenchy III that you mentioned and as it seems you haven't even smelled. I doubt you'll start seeing a forest instead of just trees without anyone writing you explicitly what you should think (like with the definition of a chypre you're so desperately clinging to), but perhaps it would be anyway worthy to actually smell the fragrances you're using as examples in your arguments. Always good to have at leats some understanding of what one's talking about.

[Anonymous No.17754404]

>>17754397
what would you advise instead?

[Anonymous No.17754405]

>>17754397
Completely different fragrances
>>17754404
He hasn't smelled it

[Anonymous No.17754408]

>>17754403
givenchy iii is not overtly citric, but it has bergamot, labdanum and oakmoss, as every chypre should. don’t tell me all this stems from you not knowing what bergamot smells like. how fucking embarrassing that you’ve decided to turn your own inability to smell into the lynchpin of your meaningless tirade.

[Anonymous No.17754411]

The return of the "you haven't smelled it" spicebomb thirdie.

It's been too long...

[Anonymous No.17754412]

>>17754405
i did tho, it's sweet as fuck with a hint of bug spray and tobacco, pure garbage

[Anonymous No.17754415]

lavander should be banned from fragrances.. vomitive scent
>>17754404
stop wearing feminine frags first
Go for something boozy sweet,like Angel's share

[Anonymous No.17754418]

>>17754415
almost as funny of a post as the gothrock homo complaining about citrus and vanilla

[Anonymous No.17754440]

>start a youtube channel and actively makes videos
>few months later basenotes burns down to ashes
BRAVO

[Anonymous No.17754455]

>>17754408
This was a genuine and well meant advice for you. You should really try to smell (and actually understand) it instead of throwing a tantrum. It’s amusing to see you trying to save your face on an anonymous imageboard with child’s playbook manipulations. In any case, I think we can just finish here as it this conversation is getting really dull.

[Anonymous No.17754456]

>>17754440
it really is like he knew the future or something
but he also has his own blog with all of his basenotes reviews, so for him it's probably no biggie

[Anonymous No.17754457]

>>17754455
and now you reveal your real intent, just blind unsubstantiated ad hominem. i’m glad you could eventually come to terms with your true colors. if only you didn’t have to embarrass yourself by showing that you don’t know what bergamot smells like along the way.

[Anonymous No.17754473]

>>17754376
yes, it's very good desu, also can be had for cheap by xerjoff standards lol
>inb4 jerkoff

[Anonymous No.17754482]

>>17754418
citrus and vanilla is perfectly fine. Lavander is for bug sprays

[Anonymous No.17754484]

are*

[Anonymous No.17754490]

>>17754385
It’s great, but not for me.

Amazing longevity and projection.

Can see it working mainly as an evening fragrance in the fall/winter. Way too cloying in this weather.

I might save it for a cooler evening and see if prefer it then.

For some reason the Tom Ford samples still smell great to me in warmer evening weather.

[Anonymous No.17754497]

>>17754457
...really dull.

[Anonymous No.17754507]

>>17754497
i agree, your unsubstantial rants were pretty flaccid.

[Anonymous No.17754511]

>>17754153
The one that you’ve enjoyed the most after sampling both thoroughly in multiple contexts over the life of the decants you bought, of course

[Anonymous No.17754536]

>>17754153
i saw on frag forums that women love Aventus so order that, it is very popular so no need to sample it

[Anonymous No.17754540]

>>17754511
I did that condescending bitch, I'm not the average retarded poster

Just dont know how good are both current batches of those fragrances

[Anonymous No.17754545]

>>17754540
the fact that you have to worry about fucking batch codes in the first place should have been deterrent enough.

[Anonymous No.17754547]

>>17754540
Then why didn’t you ask that question in the first place?

[Anonymous No.17754548]

>>17754536
A certain type of woman...

[Anonymous No.17754550]

>>17754536
lol, lmao, rofl even

[Anonymous No.17754554]

>>17754340
>labdanum and bergamot are essential
I'm not him but reding this is embarrassing even. Go to wikiparfum (Edwards' and Puig's project) and look for Kouros and recent Fougere Royale. Or go to fragrances of the world (Edwards). Those two are chypres without labdanum and bergamot. This is how much you don't know.

[Anonymous No.17754557]

>>17754554
Ummm... I think they might be fougeres??????

[Anonymous No.17754558]

>>17754380
>Also if you like fragrance talk, check out the perfume nationalist
If only you knew anon, if only you knew.

[Anonymous No.17754560]

>>17754554
>kouros
>FOUGERE royale
>”Those two are chypres”
holy fuck lmfao, what is this thread coming to

[Anonymous No.17754565]

>>17754558
Jack is the high IQ poster ?

[Anonymous No.17754598]

>>17753350
If you blindbuy, you don't deserve my favorites.

[Anonymous No.17754610]

>>17754560
> white wine
> actually yellow
what are you, five years old? go see for yourself.

[Anonymous No.17754613]

>>17754610
i’m fucking crying lmao, next you’ll tell me le chypre de coty is secretly an oriental

[Anonymous No.17754624]

>>17754613
It's not me, it's M.Edwards. I even wrote an email to him regarding that. His team replied they decided that Fogere Royale is a chypre with Roja and Diego (a perfumer of the recent version) unanimously.
>crying
But wait, there's more: go to wikiparfum and check Kouros.

[Anonymous No.17754627]

>>17754610
Well I guess that settles it.

[Anonymous No.17754631]

>>17754624
Oh of course the aromatic fougere is a subfamily of chypres.

Brb while I make and edit a peepeepoopoowiki article to claim you are gay.

[Anonymous No.17754632]

>>17754624
i guess michael edwards is a fucking moron now then, rofl. and i guess so is roja dove, but we all already knew that.
>>17754627
yeah, shalimar was actually a leather all along. who knew?

[Anonymous No.17754637]

>>17752700
That's what samples are for.

[Anonymous No.17754638]

Ah of course yatagan is a chypre and antaeus is an "ambery oriental". It also lists Aramis (a fucking classic leather chypre) as just "leather woody". Cmon man.

Parfumwiki is scuffed bro, it's off the goop.

[Anonymous No.17754643]

fall-winter frag recs for zoomer boys ?

[Anonymous No.17754644]

>>17754638
>yatagan is a chypre
yeah i think it’s fucking over for michael edwards

[Anonymous No.17754647]

Pictured: Michael Edward's nose.

[Anonymous No.17754677]

>tfw the fougere royale remake is both a chypre (35 years before coty’s chypre) and an aromatic fougere (100 years before the term was even invented) simultaneously

[Anonymous No.17754679]

>>17754647
>>17754632
> Mom look I'm bullying Edwards and calling him names on the internet!11

>>17754638
> aramis is not a chypre
Well, show us the labdanum in the notes then as this anal anon >>17754340 demanded. It is also has no contrast therefore not a chypre. On Edwards' Fragrance Wheel, Aramis is on the Dry Woods sector. "Leather and tobacco notes add to a dry, often smoky accent to woody fragrances."

>>17754631
Yeah, rofling nobody knows better than Edwards lol. Why are you so full of butthurt?

Fragrance genres is not about being anal, guys, there is more to it. This is all I wanted to say cherry-picking Kouros and Fougere Royale as examples. Farewell,

[Anonymous No.17754683]

>>17754679
>aramis has no labdanum
lol, lmao, rofl even

[Anonymous No.17754698]

>>17754679
Oh well if it's on the wheel of bullshit then I guess I and almost everyone else on earth is wrong then.

[Anonymous No.17754702]

>>17754698
according to michael edwards, aramis is a “dry woods classical”, but cabochard (nearly the exact same thing) is a “dry woods crisp green”. make of that what you will.

[Anonymous No.17754708]

>>17753485
It won't do shit in a month and certainly not just oxidize. It contains BHT, an antioxidant.

>>17753972
Are you fucking with us right now you unscented onionboy? My toothpaste is stronger than 5 sprays of Drakkar Noir.

>>17754440
He has recently announced that he likely will stop the Insta and YT content due to lack of engagement. Basenotes and the blog will stay, though, at least if Basenotes comes back proper.

[Anonymous No.17754712]

>>17754708
forgive me for not being so inclined to chemically bomb anyone unfortunate enough to be within a 50 foot radius of my person. 5 sprays was frankly too much drakkar noir for my taste, it’s simply too metallic and loud for that. i’d be more comfortable with that number for something like azzaro that’s less self-evident and penetrating.

[Anonymous No.17754720]

i thought grey flannel was expensive for some reason. this shit is only 16 euros?

[Anonymous No.17754723]

>>17754720
it’s one of the best cheapies of all time, and eternal proof that fragrance is one of the most affordable luxuries today’s increasingly worthless dollar can buy.

[Anonymous No.17754727]

>>17754723
you write like a basenotes poweruser. i like it.

[Anonymous No.17754738]

>>17753446
>>17753182
Creed is owned by black rock, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.17754744]

>>17754738
not anymore, they got dumped by the hot girl and now they’re rebounding with the chubby one named kering.

[Anonymous No.17754748]

Been wearing this on summer evenings and I enjoy it alot. I've tested the original enclave and the clone is so close so as to be indistinguishable. Got my bottle for 20 eurobucks.

[Anonymous No.17754760]

>>17754643
Versace Eros Flame

[Anonymous No.17754762]

When it comes to impressing women fragrance is 99.999% bullshit, it’s more likely to annoy others, just admit the marketing preys on your insecurities around masculinity and the opposite sex… in reality owning this garbage is a sign of shopping addiction, a reliance on the 20 second hit of dopamine when you open your newest piece of consumerism then when it doesn’t magically fix those deep rooted insecurities you instantly go looking for the next product, its almost pathological and its too late to recover now you’ll die feeling nothing but the ever diminishing euphoria of opening the plastic wrap on your latest product
the frag community is full of insecure depressed weirdos and its like a car crash of content not easy to look away from

[Anonymous No.17754766]

>>17754762
i buy fragrances because i enjoy smelling beautiful things. what now?

[Anonymous No.17754771]

>>17752453
>Kouros labeled as a winter
wtf

[Anonymous No.17754776]

>>17754766
anon cannot comprehend this. He needs yet another staple, or the lack thereof, that explains why others are successful with women while he is not

[Anonymous No.17754781]

losers I want to smell like black licorice give me a fragrance that smells like that.

[Anonymous No.17754785]

SOTD DRAKKAR NOIR

From a bottle given to me by my father 30 years ago. Smells just like him.

[Anonymous No.17754789]

>>17754766
same, but there is some truth to it, that it is a shopaholic kind of thing. I now own like 16 fragrances. I keep them scattered through 3 homes though, so that makes it kind of ok still.

[Anonymous No.17754793]

>>17754766
Riiight you spend hundreds of dollars not to impress anyone else but to serve your own self satisfaction, everyone believes you kek, why not spray them directly into your nasal cavity and save us all the nausea inducing headache whenever you enter a confined space
>>17754776
I literally said it was bullshit in the first sentence, being successful with the opposite sex or just life in general it’s all about personality, sociability, making others feel at ease and allowing them to feel valued… being a “nice guy” actually works if you’re not a narcissist or delusional or have any other crippling defects that make interacting with you a chore and obliterate your value as a human being

[Anonymous No.17754798]

It smells like dusty carpet

[Anonymous No.17754799]

>>17754793
>Riiight you spend hundreds of dollars not to impress anyone else but to serve your own self satisfaction
hundreds? buddy, i have a cumulative 5 figures in leather shoes that no one but myself and a handful of other menswear obsessives would be able to recognize and appreciate, nevermind women. (almost) all of my shirts are bespoke because i couldn’t find any RTW ones that fit me acceptably. fragrances are by far my cheapest hobby.

[Anonymous No.17754809]

>>17754793
well, to be fair having just a couple of fragrances makes you nose blind to them, which can lead one to overspray so you can smell them yourself and THAT induces headaches in others. At least that is the current copium which justifies my addiction. But imo it's just fun and brings a bit of sensory variety for your nose, some studies show it can also enhance memory. I'm concerned about fragrance chemicals inducing disease so I only spray clothes and even then sparingly.

[Anonymous No.17754811]

>>17754415
ordered a sample of angel's share
also a sample of back-to-black
hope you're right lad

[Anonymous No.17754813]

>>17754809
This nigga scared of perfume

[Anonymous No.17754821]

>>17754809
it must be a very specific mix of neuroticism and stupidity that leads to this kind of thinking

[Anonymous No.17754864]

>>17752452
god fuck drakkar noir is so good
SOTD: drakkar noir

[Anonymous No.17754893]

>>17754864
mix it with a tiny bit of oud and sandalwood, makes it even better

[Anonymous No.17754899]

>>17754893
insanely retarded

[Anonymous No.17754909]

>>17754899
just give it a try

[Anonymous No.17754960]

>>17754821
what's stupid about it?

[Anonymous No.17754983]

>>17754909
completely moronic

[Anonymous No.17754992]

I need some help finding a fougere or at least something fougere adjacent. No matter how good the opening is they all seem to dry down to a very generic male deodorant scent. This is the case for Platinum Egoiste, Eau de Minthe, Percival, Viking etc. The only one I tried that didn't was Masculin Pluriel but I'd liek something at least a bit more affordable. Any suggestions? Preferably in the minty/herbal direction (but not Beau de Jour)

[Anonymous No.17754996]

>>17754760
how similar is it to 1 million

[Anonymous No.17755001]

>>17754992
>buy trashy fougeres
>get trashy results
shocker

[Anonymous No.17755002]

>>17754793
>Riiight you spend hundreds of dollars not to impress anyone else but to serve your own self satisfaction
you think a couple of hundred is a high price to be surrounded by a nice smell all the time, for years? and you can't imagine that someone might want to smell good for himself?
lmao, I can't fathom this level of poorfaggotry and obsession with impressing women

[Anonymous No.17755005]

>>17755001
What is a not trashy fougere?

[Anonymous No.17755006]

>>17755002
the funny part is, i think most normal people would happily spend thousands on any other given hobby (sports, video games, clothing, etc.) for nothing but the sole purpose of self-satisfaction. him thinking that fragrance is somehow different than any of the above simply because of the fragrance industry’s fixation on sex in advertising is beyond laughable.
>>17755005
in the herbal direction? azzaro pour homme and zino (or what beau de jour wished it was)

[Anonymous No.17755012]

>>17755005
Most fougeres were considered trashy at some point.

You might like pitralon or brut or something like that. For me it's kouros and drakkar noir.

[Anonymous No.17755014]

>>17755005
>>17755006
oh yes, and paco rabanne pour homme’s herbal elements are famously what heralded the dawn of the aromatic fougere, but the drydown is noticeably its weakest section so it’s harder to recommend in light of your remarks.
>>17755012
i doubt fougere royale was ever considered trashy. jicky, on the other hand, absolutely was, to the point of scandal.

[Anonymous No.17755028]

>>17755014
I would love to read a really good history of perfumery. Something male brained like the power broker.

[Anonymous No.17755050]

Should I?

[Anonymous No.17755062]

>>17754793
Maybe you should just get a job anon? I just came back from a nice dinner with my gf where I spent more than most expensive niche fragrances.

[Anonymous No.17755065]

>>17755005
Don't ask them such questions. People here will write essays talking shit about someone's choices, but will never post a photo of their collection.

[Anonymous No.17755078]

>>17755065
>anon asks question
>gets reasonable answers
>”NOOOOOO STOP YOU CANT ASK THOSE QUESTIONS OR ANSWER THEM WITHOUT POSTING YOUR HECKIN COLLECTION”
is it mental illness?

[Anonymous No.17755084]

>>17755073
New
>>17755073
New
>>17755073
New

[Anonymous No.17755089]

>>17755050
It has Free shipping. I would go for it for that reason.

[Anonymous No.17755091]

>>17754708
>he likely will stop the Insta and YT
unfortunate, i'm enjoying his video rants since they differ a lot from his reviews. whats hie blog?
>>17754712
my brother in christ you're wearing drakkar noir, not kouros
>metallic
oh...

[Anonymous No.17755095]

>>17755091
i don’t find kouros particularly loud compared to drakkar noir. i just think the dihydromyrcenol in drakkar noir (and cool water, except cool water has that crab apple and violet leaf to soften the blow) to broadcast itself louder than i would like.

[Anonymous No.17755108]

>>17755050
no, why do you think he is selling it

[Anonymous No.17755309]

Thoughts on LP03 Wooden Face by Le Persona ?