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> Poorfag guide:
https://imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK
> Watch essentials 102:
https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV
> Purchasing used watches:
https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2
> Purchasing straps:
https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE
>Should I buy this MVMT / DW / "minimalist" fashion watch?
https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8
>Should I buy this Armani / Michael Kors / mall watch?
https://imgur.com/a/Sw1FsAn

"Suggest a watch for me."
> Your budget
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
> Wrist size or desired watch size

>Watch news websites:
https://www.hodinkee.com
https://www.ablogtowatch.com
https://www.fratellowatches.com
https://monochrome-watches.com

previous thread: >>17750026

>> No.17751747

Im buying a Tudor for my birthday.

>> No.17751755

>>17751745
I forgot about this watch. Love the art deco design. Might be my favorite diver. Is there a cope version of this?

>> No.17751756
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17751756

>>17751745
This mogs the Memovox

>> No.17751761

First for lil chuddy incels malding that they are poor and have never touched a woman.

>> No.17751765

>>17751747
happy birthday. which one?

>> No.17751770

>>17751761
>Le poor
nope

>> No.17751775

>>17751761
I'm not poor. And I've touched a woman.

>> No.17751777

>>17751765
Birthday in 2 months, I don't know which one but a GMT.

>> No.17751780

>>17751770
>>17751775
lil bros still seething lmao. why are poorfags so sad

>> No.17751785

>>17751780
>implying anyone on an anonymous taiwanese pickleball board is better than anyone else
kek

>> No.17751788

Everyone I know with an Omega or a Rolex is a furry or a diaper fetishist.

>> No.17751789

>>17751745
>>17751756
>alarm

does it actually make a sound?

>> No.17751794

Do these grey market youtube douchebags realize that TPG is destroying their credibility? The low key guys who aren't on youtube aren't really affected, but all these loud guys, if TPG goes to jail it will forever taint the "business".

>> No.17751800

>>17751789
yes the top top crown is for winding the alarm which is sort of a hammer hitting a piece of metal welded to the back case

>> No.17751807

>>17751788
Sounds like you know one furry and one diaper fetishist.

>> No.17751809

>>17751794
What on earth is TPG?

>> No.17751823

>>17751800
thats so cool
this is my dive watch grail now

>> No.17751825

>>17751788
They're usually both
What I want to know is where do they get all that money?

>> No.17751827

>>17751794
Who exactly thought
>grey market youtube douchebags
had any credibility to begin with?

>> No.17751828

>>17751827
They did, apparently.

>> No.17751833

is the casio b650 just the steel band version of the w217?

>> No.17751837

>>17751809
Tommy P Gandhalf
often makes controversial statements. not really grey market thou

>> No.17751849
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17751849

FIRST FOR THE WATCH GIGACHAD

>> No.17751851

>>17751849
>My name is Travis and I hate every single one of you.

>> No.17751855

>>17751851
CLASSIC

>> No.17751861

>>17751756
why would you want an alarm in the deep sea?
who was the target market for this when it was released?

>> No.17751868

>>17751861
It's to make sure you know your pizza rolls are done on the ship.

>> No.17751879
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17751879

thoughts on citizen tsuyosa picrel? or just the tsuyosa in general

>> No.17751883
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17751883

>>17751745
FUCK NOMOS

>> No.17751888

>>17751879
If they made it in 36mm I would buy it immediately.

>> No.17751893

>>17751883
You would

>> No.17751894

>>17751879
should have removed the cyclops.

>> No.17751896

>>17751794
I suspect a lot of grey dealers are going to go belly up soon anyway.

>> No.17751897
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17751897

>>17751745
Is this the closest a cope watch gets to OP?

>> No.17751898
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17751898

>>17751745
Shinola is a Detroit watch brand (nothing made in Detroit, the watches are just assembled by a bunch of Detroit nogs). Being from the area, I see these watches often in the wild. They mostly sell quartz models, but have a few automatic models as well. I never really looked into the brand and can’t attest to their quality. Anyone have any input? Pic related looks alright but I don’t like that the second hand’s dial is reflective and the main dial is not
>>17751883
Is Nomos for trannies or something?

>> No.17751900

>>17751896
Why?

>> No.17751902

>>17751900
Well Onfon is not doing them any favours, and the market is getting cold. Prices are dropping and the waitlists are getting shorter.

>> No.17751904

>>17751745
Was this made before the memovox?

>> No.17751907

>>17751879
36mm, nodate
quartz
great watch

>> No.17751912

>>17751849
You reckon arrest or disappearance?

>> No.17751916

>>17751907
Imagine they used the Miyota daydate movement and just made their own integrated bracelet daydate.

>> No.17751918

>>17751898
> Founded in 2011, Shinola takes its name from a common saying that harkens back to the defunct Shinola shoe polish company. The company was founded by Tom Kartsotis and is owned and operated by Texas-based investment group Bedrock Group LP.[2][3]

this sounds really gay, and that watch looks bad. I wouldn’t spend $1k on a nobody watch brand named after shoe polish, personally.

>> No.17751919

>>17751902
What in the fuck is onfon?

>> No.17751920

>>17751907
no eco drive though... :/

>> No.17751928

>>17751918
>2011
Holy shit, I never looked into it but I assumed for sure Shinola must have some kind of heritage from at least the 70's or 80's or something. Half the posters here are older than this company.

>> No.17751953

>>17751920
no, because they'd have put a the redundant
>eco-dive
on the dial as if putting it on the caseback where it belongs would've been so fucking heinous

>> No.17751959

>>17751928
yeah, that’s why they chose the name is because they assumed you’d just associate it with Shinola, the brand from the phrase “don’t know shit from Shinola.”

>> No.17751974

>>17751918
>this sounds really gay, and that watch looks bad. I wouldn’t spend $1k on a nobody watch brand named after shoe polish, personally.
kek
>named after shoe polish by way of an irrelevant cliché saying
>founded by greek fossil shitters guy
>controlled by jewfund
>made in china
>assembled by sheboons
>in detroit
it's as if it were a joke brand created as an experiment to see who's stupid enough to spend money on its trash

>> No.17751979

>>17751919
Antoine. Anthony

>> No.17751987

>>17751979
Is this person in the room with us now?

>> No.17752012

>>17751987
There's a room?
It's Anthony Farrer, the Timepiece Gentleman, the guy who scammed people for 5 million.

>> No.17752014

This is a watch thread, post watches! Don't make me post my Seikos.

>> No.17752018

>>17752014
Give me a day and I'll post mine (vintage)

>> No.17752019
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17752019

Damn, do we be sleeping on Citizen? This watch is only 3mm thick and solar powered.

>> No.17752027

>>17752014
Don't you threaten me

>> No.17752029
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17752029

>>17752014
ok
my captcha had:prx in it

>> No.17752031
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17752031

>read an article on affordable vintage watches
>get excited
>then realize the article is from 2012 and the prices have at least doubled now

>> No.17752039

>>17752019
citizen be bussin fr fr

>> No.17752042

>>17751897
buttplug

>> No.17752043

>>17752029
Do they still make OPs with explorer indexes?

>> No.17752044
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17752044

Hamilton should reissue these.

>> No.17752059

I had an f-91w, a seiko diver and a citizen dress watch. I got a g shock gw-5000u for my b-day and holy shit this is quite a watch. I haven't worn any other for about two weeks.

I want to only have watches like this. what should I upgrade my seiko diver and my citizen dress watch with?

I could go for just one watch, not necessarily two.

>> No.17752062

>>17752044
they get really close with these
https://www.hamiltonwatch.com/en-us/h38425720-american-classic-intra-matic-auto.html

>> No.17752075

>>17752062
oh snap that's nice.

>>17752059
HAHA your collections almost identical to mine minus the couple of swiss, nice one.

>> No.17752079

>>17751861
Right? Why would anybody underwater need an alarm? What's the rush? It's not like you're running out of oxygen kek

>> No.17752082
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17752082

Is this the watch thread?

>> No.17752083

>>17752031
Know the feels, alot of dooshy trust funders and idiots are buying them though so ask yourself do you really want to be associated with them? I sure don't.

>> No.17752086

>>17751898
Accusations of "them slaves" in 3...2... lol.

>> No.17752087
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17752087

>>17752044
>>17752062

I really liked the way they’re intramatic chronograph looked in pics but Jesus it was chunky when I tried it on

>> No.17752089

>>17751785
I have to laugh at this, I checked the online list of some guy calling everyone a "poor fag",

Calcuta India lmfao the irony.

>> No.17752091

>>17751825
I hear you can make about $10 in 5 min under the overpass somehow...

>> No.17752095

>>17752091
Tell me more.

>> No.17752098

>>17752059
>I want to only have watches like this.
What do you mean?

>> No.17752107

>>17751898
nah, some of the stuff is made in detroit. straps are usually made in detroit. I'll tell you absolutely anything you want to know. I know every single watch currently on offer and every model they've ever made so ask away.

>> No.17752127

>>17751745

dont really mean to be a dick. but whats the point of a watch??

I really wanna get one because they look pretty cool, but every time i get reminded that i can just get the time on my phone.

really not trynna shit on your guys' interest, just genuinely asking

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17752129

>>17752127

>> No.17752137

>>17752127
If you get it, you get it. If you don't get it, you don't get it. It's just as simple as that. at least 80% of the watches you'll find people talking about are dogshit.

>> No.17752142

>>17751898
>Shinola Nig Pilot

>> No.17752145
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>>17752107
Why aren't they making their big moonphase anymore? This watch was so close to being perfect?

>> No.17752150

>>17752043
not since 2019

>> No.17752156

>>17752145
They're doing a 38mm Moonphase version of the derby. Very similar to this but slightly more refined. I own the Gomelsky MP and it's my one of my favorite watches.

>> No.17752160

>>17752156
how do they justify those prices for quartz movements? what you describe will be over 1k for sure

>> No.17752161

>>17751745
>>17751756
>>17751879
>>17751897
>>17751898
>>17752019
>>17752044
>>17752082
>>17752087
>>17752145
Poorfag trash

>> No.17752164

>>17752160
See this is where it gets interesting. The original Runwell quartz was a $550 watch, expensive but in all honesty it wasn't a terrible deal. The casing of the original batches had a real heft, the straps used very high quality horween leather, and you got a pretty generous servicing plan with it (I've known people who smashed their crystals and had it replaced free of charge). However quality has slowly declined over the last ten years. essentially for the entire history of shinola there was a team of graphic designers spearheading the watch output. things that look good but don't really work very well in execution. the runwell in itself is a really mediocre design, uncomfortable on the wrist for a everyday watch, shaped like a hockey puck, poor lume. there has been some change to try and focus on the higher end products, put the release focus on automatics. In the more recent years they've done the GMT/Canfield Speedway/that runwell automatic previously posted (which is a relaunch of the original), but they're slightly running into the wall. There is no interest in investing to make in-house movements. There is just no money to do so. I mean it's absurd to point out but I will say that line-assemblers and retail workers make $15 an hour. That's less then most McDonald's in the area.

>> No.17752178

>>17752127
Well some of us like them for different functions.
For example what I have is watches for various purposes - 1 for sport, 1 for parties and going out on the weekend, couple for various other purposes mostly asthetics.

Unfortinatly some people buy them just too be act cool and just to "shit" on all the other people. We call them Rolex fan boys.

>> No.17752179

>>17752161
Thank you so much for your big brain contribution to the thread. Your mommy will have the tendies prepared shortly.

>> No.17752184

>>17752179
>Your mommy will have the tendies prepared shortly.
based

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>>17751745
what watch is this bros?

>> No.17752193

>>17752192
what was going on in that conversation? looks super gay

>> No.17752209

>>17751777
lmao

>> No.17752233
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17752233

>>17752031

>> No.17752236
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17752236

why does this board never talk about what is the objective peak comfy style of watch strap?

>> No.17752247
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17752247

ID on this watch?
>from the TV show "The Wire"

>> No.17752260

>skx007 now worth 500+ euros
why would anyone buy one?

>> No.17752261
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17752261

Am I underestimating how desirable vintage watches are even from unknown brands or are all these people on ebay high?

>> No.17752272

>>17752127
Many of us still do like the hability to check time without a phone.

We might be from a different era, and think that the natural place for our phone is in our pocket and not in our hand. We roam the world with our heads up, watching our surroundings. We dont like to be rude in the cinema, or at social events, producing our fucking phone to show how little atention or fucks we are giving. Or we like to do outdoor stuff or sports where a phone in hand could be impossible or a big hinderance.

Also, watches look cool.

>> No.17752303

>>17751789
>>17751861
It does make a sound but it's more a vibration thing. The point is to tell divers when they run out of oxygen.
Of course it's a gimmick because nobody wears mechanical watches to dive, but it's a cool gimmick nonetheless.

>> No.17752323

>>17752247
Some kind of Victorinox or Wenger watch from that period?

>> No.17752327

>>17752260
>why would anyone buy one?
Because they fell for the old and now discredited well parroted maymay pushed by leddit, clueless youtube shills and ((watchblogs))) who all haven't kept up with the times and faced the fact that the seiko meta is long over; citizen reigns supreme in the actually decent nipshittersphere now.
Those with a clue knew all along that cheapo shitko divers were ultimately inferior to the promaster range, auto or eco, but that's parroted "knowledge" for you. Takes hold and before you know it a used budget model's going for 500+ europesos and seiko re-releases a corner-cutting, retard's edition of the same thing that all the usual suspects soiface over and line their cheap chinese shitterboxes with for easy upboats.
Citizen>Orient>Seiko right now and there's absolutely zero evidence of the contrary.

>> No.17752364

>>17751745
>>17751745
>>17751745
>>17751745
Does this have a cope version or is the design too niche?

>> No.17752368

>>17752327
Tell me about some good citizen and orient watches

>> No.17752371

>>17752260
It's iconic, that's all.

>> No.17752374

>>17752236
The watch effectively becomes thicker.

>> No.17752377
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>>17752364
Diver with an alarm? Only JLC make these.
Vulcain makes alarm wrist watches too, but they're still rather expensive (4-5k €).

>> No.17752387

>>17752377
Tudor had the Heritage Advisor Titanium, but discontinued it. Partly because of the ETA movement i think.

>> No.17752389
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17752389

Three handers in the style i like (no Rolex):

Omega Rail Master 40mm: 5500€
Tudor BB 39mm: 3910€
Longines Spirit 37mm: 2700€

The price diferences are NOT justified, no matter ehat you say about "muh inhouse" or "muh coaxial".

Still cant decide tho.

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17752398

diver design peaked with aquascaphe and seamaster homage

>> No.17752402
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>>17752398

>> No.17752405
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17752405

post your grail

>> No.17752410

>>17752389
The Longines movement is the chronometer grade "powermatic" evolution of the ETA 2892.

The true sucesor of pre-coaxial Omegas.

>> No.17752417

>>17752398
>>17752402
Both are Submariner homage

>> No.17752420
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17752420

>>17752405
It changes every week.
Right now it's pic related. 2 weeks ago it was Patek 3940, last week it was Vacheron Mercator.

>> No.17752422

>>17752420
What will. next week's be?

>> No.17752428

>>17752422
Dunno, maybe some obscure JLC from the 50s or a 300k€ Journe limited to 5 pieces

>> No.17752433
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17752433

>>17752405
Used to be Aquanaut.

>> No.17752434

>>17752433
Wrong screen cap tho, but the watch is correct.

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17752458

Yikes at this, I thought this was fake but who knows :/

>> No.17752467

>>17752410
>The true sucesor of pre-coaxial Omegas.
hardly
it's exactly on par with the memeaxial:
>negligible benefit over older, non-gimmick calibers
>difficult to service
>can only be serviced by official swatchmonkies
>regulating made infinitely more difficult for zero discernible benefit
>lower beat meaning a far less aesthetic seconds hand sweep compared with be previously established norm
additionally, if you're the kind to care about such things
>silicon hairspring
it's a cost cutting downgrade through and through and absolutely cannot be called a successor to the likes of say the omega cal.1120
>>17752389
get the railmaster, or the tudor
the longines is deep within "4-figure shitter" territory and should be avoided at all costs unless you don't care about money and love its generic looks over any other horological concern

>> No.17752469

>>17752458
It's not, he admitted it.

>> No.17752470

>>17752433
How old is your iPhone?

>> No.17752475

>>17752469
But that's the least of his problems. The FBI and IRS are going to have a field day, he's only maming it worse by self-documenting everything with his daily videos, i wouldn't want to be him right now. I'm kinda glad that i'm poor, at least i only have like 1k of debt in total, not 5 mill like him.

>> No.17752477

>>17752420
You have really good taste anon.

>> No.17752497

>>17752420
>>17752405
>>17752477
Can someone explain to me what is appeal of these watches?
Is it just the price?

>> No.17752499

>>17752470
A bit over 2 years.

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>>17752405

>> No.17752502

>>17752405
oh boy. There's a chinese 'homage' that I still think about buying from time to time

>> No.17752506
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>>17752502
With photo

>> No.17752511

>>17752467
I was comparing it to the 2892 chronometer SNP300 and the like

>> No.17752521

>>17752511
>2892 chronometer
that's what the cal.1120 is

>> No.17752525

>>17752521
^^

>> No.17752526

>>17752497
They look nice

>> No.17752537

>>17752506
Yeah it looks nice. But it’s ever worth it to buy a chink watch.

>> No.17752538

>>17752499
Then is it one of the SE models or something? Or running an old iOS version? Because why can’t my screenshots look like that?

>> No.17752543
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17752543

what are we feelin lads

>> No.17752544

>>17752543
>made in "germany"
i'm feeling an L
an O
and maybe another L

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bruh

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>>17752526
which part of this looks nice? looks like a watch build from a parts bin, no matching lines, no clear design language, just an ugly not thought out design

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>>17752405

>> No.17752574
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17752574

>>17752405
The very first

>> No.17752577
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>>17752537
At, it’s never worth it to spend a lot of money on a chink watch. But I have bought a couple

>I liked the Hamilton panda in pics and always heard about 38mm being the perfect size so I bought picrel. Turns out neither are good on me. I still wear it time to time, but it saved me thousands

>bought a seiko tuna homage to get the engineer bracelet off it for another watch and ended up with an extra seiko movement for custom watches in the future

That said, I’d never pay more than $200 or build a collection of them. Timex collection would be more worthwhile

>> No.17752582

>>17752543
>5 ATM
double lol

>> No.17752587

>>17752566
It's a statement piece. No wonder you wouldn't get it, seeing only know how to regurgitate platitudes you don't understand.

>> No.17752593

>>17752566
The proportions are well balanced, the mix of industrial design (case and crown) and art deco design (dial and hands) is interesting, the complication is cool, the colors are pretty, the finishing on the dial is beautiful...
It's okay if you think it looks ugly though. In the end it's just personal taste. Some people think the Seamaster 300M is a stunning watch, but to me it's hideous.

>> No.17752597

>>17752303
>Of course it's a gimmick because nobody wears mechanical watches to dive, but it's a cool gimmick nonetheless.
It's a watch from the 60s you dumb fuck

>> No.17752598

>>17752597
The watch in the OP is a 2011 reedition.

>> No.17752626
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I saw some guy wearing this thing the other day, it looks great in person.

>> No.17752637

>>17752127
Most people don't like watches for their utility, it's just something cool that they want to own. From a utilitarian perspective you don't know what you're missing by not having the time when your phone is not in your hands. For many people once they get a cheap accurate watch like a Casio and don't need to look for their phone to tell the time there is no going back.

>> No.17752640

>>17752626
>hardlex
why won't seiko stop cheaping out

>> No.17752646

>>17752640
Why are you asking me that?

>> No.17752648

>>17752646
cause you're trying to shill me a seiko watch

>> No.17752650

>>17752648
No i'm not, i just said i saw it in person and that it looks nice. If i wanted to shill you a Seiko i'd shill you a Weekdater.

>> No.17752652

>>17752107
>i know every model
Damn bro, you from the area?

I just want to know how they hold up and if the craftsmanship is good. I’m interested in basically any automatic model with a case diameter of 40mm or less. I especially like the color scheme of the watch in the first shinola post. The dark blue and orange hands, reminds me of going to watch the tigers lose as a kid. I’d probably only shell out cash for one of their watches if all three of these conditions are met

>> No.17752655

>>17752570
tell me you're a power bottom without telling me you're a power bottom

>> No.17752656

>>17752538
It is a SE, yep

>> No.17752657

>>17751897
no, you got millions of watches like this, the Squale Corso Italiano would be a better choice for me as it's cheaper but also more legit as a dive watch.

>> No.17752664

>>17752652
There is only one automatic right now that is 40mm, and it's a dive style watch. All of the movements are Selita so they're not bad but you're not getting a bargain. The craftsmanship is usually fine, the factory they repair everything is in Detroit. The watch in that post is 45mm, absolutely huge watch.

>> No.17752665

>>17752192
>carpet
Gross and that watch is disgusting

>> No.17752666
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Kino.

>> No.17752668
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>>17752666
SOUL

>> No.17752669

>>17752664
yeah i saw the diver on their site. i think the first auto they ever released was a diver as well, something about lake erie. if i ever buy a shinola i’d go for their more classic look, but in automatic, and in 40mm or less. don’t think they’ve released something like that yet tho

>> No.17752671

>>17752668
I like this, it's silly but fun.

>> No.17752674

>>17752668
HOROLOGY NIGGAH

>> No.17752677

>>17752666
>>17752668
chopard did it first
this is a copehard

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>>17752405
Inb4 noggers with no taste.

>> No.17752697

>>17752694
3.5/10

>> No.17752709

>>17752694
I appreciate Lange watches, but the Dial of this watch looks confusing and messy

>> No.17752719

>>17752677
The Chopard version looks laughably bad in comparison

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I've put on some weight this watch feels a lot tighter on my wrist. Is it still too big for me or borderline?

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>>17752666
>>17752668
reminds me of the perfume bottle
great perfume by the way, my mom has it and it's much better than most modern women's scents. Cartier's perfumes are pretty good in general

>> No.17752737

>>17752694
Curved spoke gears are kino.

>> No.17752739

>>17752725
It looks ok. You the shirt guy?

>> No.17752742

>>17752739
Yeah I'm him, found a good tailor so I don't have to bother the shit outta you guys anymore.

>> No.17752748

>>17752725
looks acceptable for a diver

>> No.17752749

>>17752737
Any other watches with curvwd skope wheels?

>> No.17752752
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>>17752749
picrel

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>>17752749
Patek 5539G

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>>17752765
Nice.

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Anyone ever seen one of these in real life? (38mm Bathyscaphe)
I'm obsessed with this thing right now.

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Might hit the trigger on this one. 2.4k retail and made in the same factory as Glashütte Original

>> No.17752779

>>17751861
time to swim back to the submarine for supper

>> No.17752786

>>17752771
Yeah I tried one on a few months ago. Liked the size but the indices just looked way too small to me. Much preferred the classic Fifty Fathoms even though it's huge.

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>>17752127
it tells the time. And past that they're basically jewelry for men.

phones don't tell the time, they're for calling people.

>> No.17752793

>>17752765
Fucking gorgeous.

>> No.17752795

I know the inhouse equivalent of NH34 is the Seiko 4R34, what I'd like to ask is does anyone know the inhouse Citizen equivalent for the Miyota 9075? I remember seeing it before and it had 10s better -/+ than the spec listed for the Miyota 9075, I just unfortunately forgot which one it was.

My experience with the microbrands that have been using it has been more than impressive so I'd like to have the inhouse Citizen equivalent that has better listed specs than the one they're selling to microbrands. Id've gone for the SSK005 because I love the design but as much praise as the Seiko 5s get, my experience with the whole Seiko lottery has been abysmal.

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>>17752566
I used to think these looked weird but then one day I started liking them.

>>17752420
What's the cope watch version of this? I've had people recommend Seiko, but their tank style watches are xbox huge. Then people also recommend some chinese shitters that have a big engrish SAMNBDA on the dial which looks retarded.

I am considering pic related instead from https://www.eriksenwatches.com/product/mans-chatsworth-gold-black-strap/

I've had bad luck buying vintage seiko tank watches online.

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i really wish they made the 38mm with better dial colors

>> No.17752798

>>17752669
closest is the mechanic, but that's handwound manual. about the closest to a vintage inspired watch under 40mm that they currently make. It'll be back soon (before end of month).

>> No.17752804

>>17752796
Cartier makes the cope version. It's a steel quartz Tank Must for $3k.

>> No.17752806

>>17752650
It has to look good considering it costs $1,700, because in terms of movement accuracy, it's close or outright beaten by Citizen's Miyota 90XX series.

I'm in the crossroads right now between Citizen and Seiko. The former has one of the best movement accuracy, better than your average Swiss workhorses but Citizen cannot design a cool looking automatic if their life depended on it, while Seiko comes up with absolutely cool designs, but the accuracy for their watches below <$1000 is a massive joke.

I'd really want to have a beater that's as cool looking as Seiko watches, but has the reliability of Citizen's Miyota 90XX movements.

>> No.17752809

>>17752804
I think that's well known, every social climber I've encountered that wears a Cartier wears that.

I think Nico Leonard even pointed one out on his Tiktok roasts a few days ago. They know most millennials don't know there's a difference between automatics and quartz and how this ends up affecting its affordability.

>> No.17752824

>>17752809
I mean I say it's a cope watch but there are lots of good reasons to go with the quartz Must over breaking the bank on a gold LC or a prive collection piece. The movement has never really been the central appeal of these watches anyway.

>> No.17752831

>>17752795
Just pay your local watchmaker 30$ to regulate it, it takes 10 minutes.

>> No.17752834

>>17752127
Basically what this guy says:
>>17752787

But yeah personally I just like telling the time on a high quality piece of art as opposed to my phone where I’ll have a bunch of notifications about unimportant shit in my face. Also, a quality watch is something that you can pass down for generations. For instance, I have my great grandfather’s pocket watch

>> No.17752835

>>17752806
>$1,700
Really? Damn that's waaaay too much, you can get a vintage 62GS for that kind of money. What were they thinking?

>> No.17752838

>>17752804
okay, then consider my $80 one the gigacope version. I'm just wondering if anyone knows for certain that I should avoid it or if the case thickness makes it not worth buying.

>> No.17752840
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Sold a heavily used bb58 that I got for cheap over Reddit. He scammed by saying he didn't receive it. I had it insured and ended up getting a brand new one for free.

>> No.17752863

>>17752824
To an autist like me, it unfortunately is.

That said, the silver lining to that is that in terms of automatics, GS is the only one that addresses that niche and having one means the journey's pretty much over for me.

I just want a beater that comes close.

>> No.17752871

>>17752840
People pull that shit on /r/watchexchange? As if mods over there not punishing sellers who sell fakes wasn't enough already. Yikes.

>>17752835
Yea, it's unreasonable considering how you can get a Spring Drive Prospex at that price on second hand. The only leg it's standing on is the limited quantity but we all know the reasoning behind artificial scarcity so yea that pricing is indeed too much.

>>17752831
I hate to say this but I've come to realize our local watchmaker is a joke. Claims to know how to regulate but has no timegrapher. He was also confused how I know the reference numbers of watches I wanted to buy as gifts on the top of my head. I'd rather do it myself but I have an imposed 3 watch limit for budget reasons and buying a Weishi 1000 for a single automatic might be overkill.

I'd rather ship it to a competent one but Miyota 9075's reliability out of the box was so impressive that it pretty much sold me on Citizen's reliability.

>> No.17752874

>>17752840
I was scared to even buy from a private seller off Chrono24. I would never feel comfortable buying or selling on Reddit or watch forums. Glad it worked out for you but I’ve read lots of horror stories over the years.

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>>17752777
>made in the same factory as Glashütte Original
LOOOOOOOOL at this mega weird cope.
Nice trips, tho.

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>>17752876
not really cope given they're all swatch group anyway

>> No.17752880

Can anyone recommend me a wall clock with a sweeping seconds hand instead of ticks?

>> No.17752881

>>17752874
The scary thing here is that the person they're interacting with might not have been scamming. Last month, 3 shipments from Zelos' Aurora release were all stolen by the couriers themselves.

After talking to the CEO about it, he confirmed they were indeed stolen in transit, and there's nothing he can really do about that since the only compensation DHL(and USPS, they're also not safe with this either) would really do are free shipping vouchers.

The guy made the right call having it insured, since from experience, the reason why watch sales get deliberately mis-reported during shipping is to prevent the exorbitant shipping and duty fees you have to deal with for shipping a luxury watch.

>> No.17752885

>>17752871
Bro the guy actually told the mods and they banned ME. It was such an unreal experience. All my watch sales after that have been face to face.

>> No.17752889

>>17752880
Mondaine maybe?

>> No.17752892

>>17752880
Seiko sells them, the desk equivalent are their World Time clocks.

https://www.amazon.com/Seiko-Ultra-Modern-Black-Silver-Clock/dp/B07VYT1QPQ

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Hey guys I'm Christian, the curator of Theo & Harris watch shop.
AMA

>> No.17752895

>>17752881
Anytime I do a really high value watch deal I insist shipping via USPS registered mail. It’s fucking slow but their loss rate is virtually 0% as it travels via vault, has a chain of custody, and anyone who loses a registered mail package is basically fired on the spot. The downside is as I said it’s extremely slow and tracking is inaccurate as the package will often sit in a spot for an extended period of time until a high-up postal worker signs for it and takes custody. It doesn’t help that it’s obnoxious to insure high value watches via FedEx or the other courier services if you’re a private individual.

>> No.17752896

>>17752894
Can you tone your 'enthusiasm' down a bit? You've already come a long way from the beginning, but you're still kinda annoying. That's all, wish you luck.

>> No.17752897
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Stop buying sports watches

>> No.17752901

>>17752885
Yea, that tracks with their mods, alright. There's a reason why offshoots of /r/watchexchange have popped up specifically because of bullshit like this.

I'd rather try my luck on eBay or Facebook watch groups over this shit, the latter actually have good reference systems in place to prevent scams like this. A guy I sold a watch to also taught me how to bypass duty and expensive shipping fees as well so I kinda found it surreal how Facebook is somehow effective for shit like this specifically.

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>> No.17752904

>>17752894
anyone ever called you a Jersey dago passing for a New York jew?

>> No.17752909

>>17752897
Stop buying dress watches. You nerd virgins will just wear them with graphic tees and cargo shorts anyway.

>> No.17752912

>>17752895
Yea, although for my case, I just won't do it for watches over $1000 anymore. I lose sleep when shit's on transit and it's not worth the stress.

>> No.17752914

>>17752909
dress watches are for people who dress well. sports watches are for people who dress like shit... so for most watch enthusiasts, which is why they're so popular

>> No.17752918

>>17752912
an expensive watch isn't worth it if you have to worry about it too much

>> No.17752927
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>>17752914
>dress watches are for people who dress well. sports watches are for people who dress like shit... so for most watch enthusiasts, which is why they're so popular

>> No.17752933

>>17752918
When wearing, yea, it's why I'll never bother with an AP or Vacheron. TGV's story about how he covered the Royal Oak was relatable. I don't want to lose $50k because of a hairline scratch. I'm already happy with what I have now to the point that I just go for art watches instead.

It's a different case in transit though since it's an element that's way out of your control until it arrives to the recipient.

>> No.17752940

Are the Royal Oak, Nautilus, 222 and Santos dress watches or sports watches?

>> No.17752944

>>17752940
Original intent was Sports watches, but their luxury status have elevated them to Dress.

IMO, once you get past a certain price threshold, whatever the original category of the watch becomes irrelevant, it becomes a dress watch due to the price attached to it.

Amusingly though, I struggle to hold that opinion for Richard Milles.

>> No.17752948

>>17752940
sports watches

>> No.17752951

>>17752903
Fug that's nice

>> No.17752958

>>17752892
Okay I didn't realize it when I recommended this clock

But besides the sweeping second hand, it has LUME

I guess I'm buying it for myself now as well.

>> No.17752960

>>17752894
Why are you gay?

>> No.17752967
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>>17752914
A tasteful sports watch can go with literally anything. Not to mention there are thousands of sports watches with varying levels of dressiness and sportiness. Isn't the reverso technically a sports watch? It's literally designed for people playing a sport. So many watches are made so that they're suitable for the office but also rock climbing or something on the weekend.

>> No.17752972
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Give it to me
I must have
Precious treasure
I deserve it

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>> No.17752978

>>17752914
Post body. There’s no way you’re under 400 lbs

>> No.17752986

>>17752972
This was the watch that got me interested in watches again. The interest vaned quickly after i saw the price, being a poorfag, but i knew i had to have a watch from then on.

>> No.17752991

>>17752986
>The interest vaned quickly after i saw the price, being a poorfag,

This is why I despise speculators. Their bullshit makes the hobby unreachable for actual horology enthusiasts.

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>strap monster
>#SpeedyTuesday
>the Reverso is a sports watch
>timeless elegance
>design language
>actually I use my diver's bezel every day
>pepsi, coke, rootbeer, Hulk, Batman, Batgirl
>hand finished movement
>the holy trinity of watchmaking
>one watch collection
>timepiece
>nato strap on a dress watch
>date window on a chronograph
Complete that list.

>> No.17753009

>>17752972
>>17752975
looks cheap desu

>> No.17753012

>>17753002
>date window on a chronograph

I think the Fortis Cosmonaut looks cool as fuck.

>> No.17753014

>>17753002
>pop of color
>wrist presence

>> No.17753018
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opinion?

finished with uni and started working recently, and this is the first watch I bought for myself

>> No.17753020

>>17751745
Whats a non poor watch thats comfy to wear for a programmer that has to type type type

>> No.17753022

>>17753018
Not bad, this is one of those watch brands that has me thinking, Oh, they did their homework.

The other two would be Orient(or Orient Star) and Hamilton.

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>>17753018
Nice

Got this cause I needed a more casual watch but probably should have went for 41 because 39 looks smoler than i thought it would irl and it always looked massive on pics and vids
It’s also not comfy to wear while working at a computer as i mentioned earlier because it feels heavy and the bottom hits the keyboard

>> No.17753028

>>17753020
It's fucking with my head seeing this particular post because at one point in time, /wt/ used to be a /g/ staple, not /fa/.

But I'd suggest an Oris Pro Pilot or a GS Snowflake if you can afford past $3k.

If <$1k, Hamilton Khaki Pilot Day for the Day/Date complication

If <$500, Tissot PRX quartz

>> No.17753029

>>17753020
Any light watch on leather.

>> No.17753031

>>17752967
Yeah, and the Tank is a military watch, and the Santos a pilot watch.

Get consistent with the century you live in, ffs

>> No.17753033

>>17752797
They used to.
The copper seems to be one of those weird dials where you have to see just the right pic of it to actually like it. I'm sure it looks better in person.

>> No.17753034

>>17752878
The most damning thing here is if it's also the same factories that make the Moonswatches.

if so, god almighty..

>> No.17753035

>>17753031
>Yeah, and the Tank is a military watch, and the Santos a pilot watch.
Literally, why the fuck not?

>> No.17753038
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17753038

Move aside poorfags

>> No.17753044

>>17753031

Okay, and?

If it looks good, it looks good. Almost anything can work as a dress watch if they don't look garish with the dress you're wearing.

As much as I dislike how they're turned into status symbols, I'm not gonna deny they look elegant.

except for the Tank, but that's mainly because it's design became the staple for a lot of lady's watches so I end up seeing that shit as your grandma/aunt's watch solely by association.

>> No.17753047

>>17753038
>virgin Muonionalusta watch dial poorfag
>chad Meteorite case Tourbillon richfag

>> No.17753049
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17753049

>wear a sports watch with sports jacket or suit
>wear a dress watch with sweatshirt and jeans
That's how you do it.

>> No.17753054

>>17752587
>It's a statement piece
how does that excuse it for being bad design
>>17752593
the pattern on the dial really is pretty, but thats about it. I though about it since making my post, it really is just jewerly for men, you just think its worth something because others tell you it is. if it was some cheap resin cased chinese watch without the texture on the dial you wouldnt bat an eye, because the design itself is shit. Atleast the seamaster does its function somewhat okay, clear legebility, etc. And if you call that industrial design... lol.
>>17752796
the watch in ur pic is even a better example of how it can be a cheap chinese knockoff but you wouldnt like it because its a noname

t. masters in mechanical engineering

>> No.17753055

>>17753049
This is the truth.

Unless you're utterly insecure, wear whatever watch you want.

>> No.17753056

>>17753054
>t. masters in mechanical engineering
Not smart enough for physics eh?

>> No.17753059

>>17753056
Cut him some slack, he still got through Trigonometry.

>> No.17753065

>>17753056
>physics
I like having a job, making tangible things. you know?

>> No.17753066

>>17753065
STEMlet cope lmao. Why do all engineers have terrible taste and crippling insecurity?

>> No.17753067

>>17753066
>Why do all engineers have terrible taste and crippling insecurity?
because of shit like >>17753056
It fucking stings.

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>>17753056

>> No.17753071

>>17753066
>crippling insecurity
you are the one who got jelly at an engineering degree dood....

>> No.17753072

>>17753066
>STEMlet

Not that dude but at this point you're being unreasonable

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>>17753054
>argue about aesthetics
>"I'm a mechanical engineer btw"

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17753076

>>17752506
i like the triumph better

>> No.17753082

>>17753002
>looks more expensive than it actually is
>punches above it’s weight

>> No.17753088

>>17753056
>physics
>what is dynamics

>> No.17753089

>>17753082
This is the hill I'll die on, there's a lot of budget watches these days that fit this bill, considering how Citizen has finally caught up with COSC specifications with the Miyota 9000 series movements. The only reason why they don't get the certification is there's a bullshit requirement for it where it HAS to be Swiss made.

If you said this 5-10 years ago, I'd agree with you, as much praise the Seiko 5 watches get and how these statements kept being used on them, Seiko 5 does not deserve it, between the misaligned indicies, bad QC and the infamous Seiko lottery, I side eye whenever people use these phrases, but honestly not these days.

We've come at a point where it makes me wonder why we should bother with a Sellita or ETA when a Miyota 9000 can do better, for 1/3rd the price and less rotor issues?

>> No.17753092

>>17753002
>statement piece
>tank watch
>industrial design
>holy grail
>art deco

>> No.17753093

>>17752894
Who the fuck are Theo and Harris?
Who the fuck would make up two random names then call himself a curator of the place?

>> No.17753098

>>17753093
They are probably relatives to Massimo Duti and Haagen-Dasz

>> No.17753100

>>17753089
>Citizen has finally caught up with COSC specifications with the Miyota 9000 series movements
Lmao I love this justasgood cope. -10/+30 spd is not COSC

>> No.17753101

>>17753089
I sort of wonder why Seiko or Citizen don't set up factories in Switzerland and play the bullshit Swiss game and try beating them at it, at least on some higher end luxury pieces. Most of the historic watch companies from America and England and other foreign nations were bought out and brought to Switzerland to get the Swiss Watch qualifiers.

>> No.17753102
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>>17752951
ty anon, there are even nicer versions out there

>> No.17753104
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What do you look for in a watch? This is what I wear daily. Pretty cheap, and I like it, but I can probably find something better.

>> No.17753105

>>17753101
>why won't Seiko build factories and hire workers in Switzerland, 10 000km away from Japan, just to have some certification that only 200 nerds on the internet have heard of and don't really care about?
Good question anon. Very good question.

>> No.17753107

>>17753101
Nah you'll never see that, (Grand) Seiko are adamant on doing things their way and are proud of it. Sure they miss more often than not, but at least they are genuine.

>> No.17753108

>>17753104
what do I look for in a watch?
>>17753002
>>17753014
>>17753082
>>17753092

>> No.17753114

>>17753108
I'm sorry but the only one that makes sense to me is >>17753082

>> No.17753125

>>17753105
If Omega can manage to qualify as Swiss made with so much of their shit being made in Asia, it can't be that difficult to get.

>> No.17753130

>>17753100
It's their listed spec, I haven't had a single Miyota that went above -/+ 6SPD, I've had 3 so far(Miyota 9015, 9075 and 9039) and the best one was the 9015 and 9075 at -/+4 spd, while the 9039 was at -/+ 6 SPD.

I don't know why they list their specs that high when my Timegrapher shows otherwise, but it's achieving Sellita Elabore accuracy while costing less than $100 per movement, and no, none of them were supposedly regulated. It's why I don't bother with Swiss movements these days unless it involves a complication that isn't available with the Miyota 9000 at the moment, like Day/Date.

>> No.17753135

What watch to buy if I like black cocks?

>> No.17753137

>>17753107
Citizen at least is willing to play ball, they acquired Frederique Constant and La Joux-Perret and both brands still make their watches in Switzerland after the acquisition.

>> No.17753141

>>17753125
Well afaik the law states that 60% of the value of the watch must come from Switzerland, and labour is expensive there, so they can basically make all the parts in China and just assemble the watch in Switzerland and it will pass.

>> No.17753143

>>17753125
I know trolls love to bang that drum on this general but that lowered my desire for Omega watches.

bragging about SWISS MADE while having watches made in China is just as bad as the usual shit Swatch tries to pull off, all their watches are scams in my eyes, even the well-regarded, non-meme ones like Sistem 51.

no surprise though, same owners.

>> No.17753145

>>17753135
Seiko

>> No.17753146

>>17753135
Rolex.

>> No.17753147

>>17753141
That's like the inverse of what Seiko did in its early years with Swiss parts

that's fucking hilarious

>> No.17753152

>>17753125
>>17753141
>>17753143
>Omega made in China
Has this been proven yet? The only evidence I’ve seen was a bracelet clasp posted on WUS. Seems like pure speculation beyond that.

>> No.17753153

>>17753002
You forgot
>GADA

>> No.17753154

>>17753152
it's one autist lol

>> No.17753155

>>17753153
Any watch is a GADA watch

If you're brave enough.

>> No.17753156

>>17753155
I wouldn't buy a watch I couldn't wear anywhere.

>> No.17753157

>>17753154
Ill still keep them off my radar until this is disproved.

That said, the only Omega watches I want right now are more then 10 years old so I'm sure those weren't affected.

>> No.17753159

>>17753130
I have an older NY0400 with the original, non hacking mvt.
Finally got to play with a timegrapher and was delighted to discover that dial up, it's +/-0s. I'd leave that thing face up on my night stand and wondered why there wasn't any drift.

>> No.17753161

>>17753154
Must be, I’ll take it seriously when I see some concrete proof.

>> No.17753163

>>17753157
Their bracelets have been proven to be made in china in the past. That's worrying enough because it's not hard for swatch to get cases, dials etc., also made there. They're just not trustworthy imo

>> No.17753165

>>17753159
You lucked out, my first automatic was a microbrand with an NH34 and It pained me after seeing it was +20spd. I love the design, I just wish I could change the movement but the case was specifically designed for the NH34 so my only option was to sell it.

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>>17753163
>Their bracelets have been proven to be made in china in the past.
Post proof please, I would love to see it. This is all I’ve seen.

>> No.17753175

>>17753165
Well I do have a seiko 5, one of the older styled 36mm turd world day/date models and that's about +97s in several positions. I think I dropped it.
Welp I do have a toothpick with which to nudge the leveroonie and all I need now is to figure out how to remove the caseback.

>> No.17753178

>>17753170
AFAIK this is the original thread. Obviously there has been significant discussion about it but I have never seen any other evidence.

https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/just-put-the-extra-half-link-to-my-po-bracelet-made-in-china.918871/

>> No.17753184

>>17753175
>all I need now is to figure out how to remove the caseback.

bench tools for watches are thankfully cheap. They're at $18 on Amazon and they can handle your average Seiko caseback easy. Regulating is the actual struggle in this whole situation. You can achieve -/+ 0 on dial down but that could mean -/+16 on dial up, or side, etc.

It's why Miyota 9000 being that good out of the box fascinated me, I don't have to do anything else and it's already at least -/+6spd, it makes me wonder how better the inhouse versions would be since Miyota and NH movements are deliberately gimped in order to not outshine their inhouse variants.

>> No.17753186

>>17753170
The only two things I've seen are that receipt and its owner's account from either WUS or the omegaforums and the account by a registered omega watch repairman who complained about the same thing. I think they had a blog documenting their communications with swatch over the origin of the bracelets marked swiss but came in a box marked made in china for US customs purposes. Both accounts are several yeas old now. Whether you choose to believe them or not, whether that's all there is to it or not, is up to you.

>> No.17753191

>>17753178
Thanks for the link. Is there anything newer than 10 years ago?
>>17753186
>account by a registered omega watch repairman who complained about the same thing. I think they had a blog documenting their communications with swatch over the origin of the bracelets marked swiss but came in a box marked made in china for US customs purposes.
Got a link? I’m not an Omega shill nor am I a hater. I just want to see proof before I make my mind up.

>> No.17753192

>>17753054
What does your degree have to do with your argument? I'll tell you actually--nothing.

>the watch in ur pic is even a better example of how it can be a cheap chinese knockoff but you wouldnt like it because its a noname
I literally do like how it looks despite it being a "noname". What aren't you understanding here?

>I though about it
>jewerly
learn to use English and spell properly
>Atleast
*At least
>if it was
*if it were
>legebility
*legibility
>ur
*your

Don't try to show off your degree when you're very obviously not smart from your post anyway

>> No.17753198

>>17752940
The santos isn’t a sports watch it’s a dress watch that can be worn every day. It doesn’t have a screw down crown and legibility isn’t the main point of the dial

>> No.17753201

>>17753198
Also water resistance is only 100m and you’d have to be rich as hell or a retard to wear a 7.5k watch without a screw down crown while swimming

>> No.17753204
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17753204

I hate Omega more than any other brand, but let's be honest: Swatch Group can't afford to be caught making Omega watches in China. That would be devastating for the brand and the whole Swatch Group.
I do believe though their whole process is shady, with parts being made in multi-brands Swatch owned factories throughout Switzerland, and then assembled at the Omega main factory (which is the whole points of belonging to a group).
There are plenty of reasons to hate Omega though : thick as fuck watches, tasteless marketing, absurd amount of watches in different configurations, shit-tier ambassadors, complete lack of respect for their heritage (PIC VERY RELATED), business model relying almost exclusively on Rolex cope...

>> No.17753213

>>17753204
>I hate [a brand]
That's not a healthy attitude.
If you don't like it, don't buy it. Don't talk about it. Don't engage in discussions about it. Put it out of your mind completely.
You'll be much happier that way.

There's more to life than just being angry all the time, surely.

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>>17753213
Lol seriously, there’s very few watch brands that I even like, but I just don’t think about the ones I dislike. Imagine seething, writing up paragraphs on fucking 4chan and feeling cortisol spikes every day about something that’s completely out of your control. Pic related

>> No.17753220

>>17753213
>>17753218
Hi, welcome to 4chan.

>> No.17753224

I find the Omega Chinese link evidence to not be very compelling since it seems to boil down to one ten year old screenshot, but it wouldn't surprise me that most brands do it. The only brands I can think of that really boast about vertical integration are Rolex, JLC, and Patek (?). I'd assume that basically everyone else, and certainly all the cheaper brands, are getting parts from wherever they can for cheap.

>> No.17753234

NEW
>>17753233
>>17753233
>>17753233
>>17753233
>>17753233

>> No.17753302

>>17752637
>For many people once they get a cheap accurate watch like a Casio and don't need to look for their phone to tell the time there is no going back.
Yup. We stopped using pocket watches for a reason. I fucking HATE not having my eatch

>> No.17753358
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>>17753076
That's also nice. The dark blue dial is also cool

>> No.17753464 [DELETED] 

>>17751745
Should i buy the Hamilton khaki or the meme Timex solar version for way less (200)

>> No.17753806

>>17753025
39m looks completely appropriate

>> No.17753811

>>17751745
i know, i know. but i just can’t imagine having my arm draped over my wife while i’m wearing a seiko. i can’t imagine holding my son while wearing a fucking seiko. a man must have standards

>> No.17753977
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17753977

bonjourr

Rolex is for ...?