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Discuss all leather footwear and outfits to wear with them here

>How to care for my leather footwear
Get a big horsehair brush, a piece of cloth, Saphir Renovateur.

>Recommend me a brand
Name budget

>Under $170-$200
No good leather shoes can be made under that price point. Consider used.

>> No.17534098
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17534098

Recommend me a horsebit loafer under $170-$200, can be used
Also got this shoe, but I can't tell if it's men's or women's, any ideas?

>> No.17534133

Which derby should I buy to replace my 4 yr old falling apart doc martens

>> No.17534281
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>> No.17534632
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fdes anyone have rancourt loaders? as a gift, my family decided to surprise me by pre-ordering some dark brown eastport loafers, but i am worried they got the size wrong. i normally wear a 9E/EE but they went with an 8.5E. are their loafers on the larger size?

>> No.17534636

>>17534632
>fdes anyone have rancourt loaders?
does*, loafers*

>> No.17534655

>>17534098
Carmina makes well built, non gaudy horsebit loafer.

>> No.17534656

>>17534655
Fuck off and die shill

>> No.17534671

>>17534656
seething
your precious White's will never make a loafer

>> No.17534716

>>17534656
Take your meds.
Out of all the goodyear welt brands I can think of, Carmina makes a decent one.
Why don’t you give a rec if you are so butthurt about Carmina, snowflake?

>> No.17534720

>>17534656
Your containment thread is that way
>>>/trash/

>> No.17534767

>>17534080
>>Under $170-$200
>No good leather shoes can be made under that price point. Consider used.
Are Meermin shoes shit? Thought they were supposed to be good

>> No.17534771

>>17534767
shit. used to be barely acceptable

>> No.17534775

>>17534098
definitely Men's 80s style black tassel loafers -- very effay for wear with gray slacks and sports jacket/blazer

>> No.17534779

>>17534767
They are made decently, just very uncomfortable. The insole is uncomfortable to stand on (it is thin leather), the heel stiffener is sharp, the leather is stiff.

>> No.17534780

>>17534771
What’s the least you should pay for quality (black) dress shoes in Europe then? Should I shell out 400€+ for Carminas or are there cheaper alternatives? Need a pair for a wedding

>> No.17534788

>>17534779
I saw some people say they’re uncomfortable on a website but others replied that they just need to be broken in and that it’s difficult to find the right size for them. Thanks

>> No.17534790

>>17534780
>Skolyx, Yanko, Berwick, Orbans, Loding

>> No.17534811

>>17534098
eww you paid for eitienne aigner?

>> No.17534814

>>17534098
>can't tell if it's men's or women's, any ideas?
bottom shoe

>> No.17534815

>>17534790
Thanks anon

>> No.17534885

good derby/bluchers for ~$500?

>> No.17535043
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17535043

>>17534811
Bought three pairs used for like $7 each, whats wrong with aigner?
>>17534655
>carmina
$275 for a pair and little to no used market sadly

>> No.17535045

>>17535043
kek wouldnt take those if they were free, no room for hideous trash in my closet

>> No.17535050

>>17534885
TLB, Carmina, Cheaney, Trickers

>> No.17535244

>>17534632
I don't know about Rancourt, but it's pretty normal to size down half a size in loafers. Calfskin will stretch and you want them to fit pretty snug initially so there isn't heel slippage.

>> No.17535314

I currently have an ultra cheap pair of loafers and oxfords that I am looking to phase out of my wardrobe and replace with finer footwear. What are the recommended brand(s) for picking up new loafers and oxfords?
I am a fresh uni graduate, so ideally I don't want to spend excessively, but I appreciate expensive footwear can last many years - as such, is worth it

>> No.17535330

>>17535314
Read the sticky, name a budget.

>> No.17535338

>>17535330
Apologies, $200-400 USD

>> No.17535395
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I've had my eye on these Goral trainers for a while, but how do they feel? Has anyone had any experience with their shoes?

>> No.17535400

>>17534655
I have Carmina loafers still don't like leather soles on low slip ons in general. just me rambling but if I'm sporting summer travel shoes I'll pick the LL bean wicked good mocc or a yanko belgian loafer with a travel sole for ultra comfy squishy

>> No.17535470

>>17535338
Get Berwick or Lof Tung, Skolyx to test the water, or TLB Mallorca if you want “finer” make.

>> No.17535487

>>17535470
Thanks anon!

>> No.17535488

I bought something that will make fa mad

>> No.17535492
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17535492

Left or right?
I mostly wear blue, black, beige and brown jeans and black and navy sweatshirts

>> No.17535504

>>17535492
Is there even a difference?

>> No.17535508

>>17535492
That's the same shoe.

>> No.17535538

>>17535504
>>17535508
Right is suede, left is normal leather

>> No.17535545

>>17535492
>>17535538
What kind of suede? Is it rough-out calfskin or synthetic?
Suede is great for most outfits but keep in mind it's a bitch to clean. Get oil of any kind on it? Hello big blotch you're never removing. At least the regular leather has some resistance to it because it is the outside skin part of the cow, but it scratches easier in turn.

>> No.17535582

What do i do with white leather sneakers? the leather smells like vegetable tanned and really supple im impressed

>> No.17535585

>>17535488
high heels yw×baw?

>> No.17535592

>>17535585
No just some designer look at me shit with a red outsole for my 12th shoe.

>> No.17535685
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17535685

Thoughts on these Paraboot derby's? Want to get a similar aesthetic to Doc Martens but of way better quality. These cost €390

>> No.17535771

>>17534080
Is Tuesday good? Particularly their leather sneakers

>> No.17535918

>>17535685
They look dope, wish they weren't so expensive
Do they ever go on sale?

On that note, any recs for cheap derbies in Europe? Preferably with that chunkier modern style, not too dressy

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>>17534655
>>17534098
Carmina is well out of his price range.

The closest you're probably going to get BRAND-NEW is Meermin, or any of those other shoemakers who outsource the production process to China/India (Loake in the Design and L1 line, etc.). Meermin by all accounts can be a difficult shoe to break in, and you don't really have the option of trying them on in person unless you live in NYC. Abbott's Shoes has a couple of Barker Black Bit Loafers up atm if you're a man with a bigger foot, but they're not a classic horsebit since the brand is slightly more fashion forward.

>> No.17536454

>>17535582
Zoomer outfit or middle age office worker outfit?

>> No.17536470

>>17535582
Casual attire? I feel like they aren't that hard to wear. Khakis, jeans, shorts, joggers. I usually have a light gray, cream, sand or white shirt though, no matter what else I wear.

>> No.17536507

>>17535955
>>17534098
That reminds me Meermin has Horsebit loafer. You can get from them if you absolutely wants a pair of good horsebit, just expect some initial discomfort, or not if you are lucky.

>> No.17536509

>>17534767
Rancourt's Dirigo line are in that price range and are quite nice.
https://www.rancourtandcompany.com/collections/dirigo

>> No.17536510

Shiny or not shony shoes for my wedding? are Shiny shoes cringe?

>> No.17536513

>>17535685
Paraboot is well made. The Japanese love the Chambord.

>>17535918
Orbans

https://orbans.fr/fr/84-derby-homme

>> No.17536514

>>17536510
Plasicky patent leather shine is cringe unless you are doing black tie.
Get a can of Saphir to shine your smooth leather shoes. You are the groom. You have the right to look meticulous.

>> No.17536518

>>17535771
No, they are built with a lot of synthetic innards, you can pay a bit more to get better built shoes from other brands.

The sneakers are okay.

>> No.17536530
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>>17536513
I can go to a Paraboot store now and get pic related at full price, but at the same time I can get a used C&J for the same price.
I'm trying to setup my Spring/Summer wardrobe, I currently own nothing but grayscale items

>> No.17536545

>>17536530
The tassel loafer is more versatile than the moc. I'm not even sure if Paraboot makes good moc.

>> No.17536587

>>17536530
Tassel loafers are definitely the way to go, especially since they aren't JUST a summer item and are overall more versatile in terms of dress code.

>> No.17536590

>>17536510
Hi-shine leather is usually a bit cheaper and treated with chemicals to get the desired finish, but it ends up cracking/scuffing and you can't fix it. Better to purchase a pair of calf leather shoes and give them a proper mirror shine.

>> No.17536595

>>17536513
>Orbans
Thanks, but I prefer my derbies with round toes, those are all very pointy

>> No.17536605

>>17536595
>Pointy?
They have a bunch of chonky round toe derby there. Basically look like they are inspired from Paraboot and Heschung offerings.

>> No.17536625

>>17536605
idk I don't really see any that look like the one here for instance >>17535685

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>>17535918
>>17535685
I like my Paraboots, got these in great condition for 180 eur on ebay from some french seller that only sells Paraboots. Granted these are neither their most elegant model nor as iconic as the Avignon or Michael but they are good enough for me.
There seems to be plenty of paraboots on ebay at any given moment, might be worth a look.

>> No.17537065

>>17535918
Yeah I'm saving up for them. Hope they are worth the price because I intend to keep them for long

>> No.17537068

>>17536625
You can try Doc Martens or Solovair?

>> No.17537069

>>17537068
kys

>> No.17537079

>>17535685
Paraboots are great but they are fucking nightmare to tame. Feels like it took an eternity for them to start feeling good on my feet.

>> No.17537365

>>17537079
What leather was it? The last ran short on length so sizing has to be more precise.

>> No.17537413

>>17537365
I dont know the leather, the model was the Michael. Beautiful but fucking destroys my feet.

>> No.17537655

>>17537068
They've both gone down the shitter, docs especially
Though I do like how they look

>> No.17537742

>>17535492
What are these pls

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>> No.17537952

>>17535050
thanks, I liked Carmina's and TLB's.
a chunkier sole is more casual, right?
or would these be OK for casual wear (chinos)?
https://www.carminashoemaker.com/black-derby-shoes-80449

>> No.17538160

https://www.endclothing.com/us/asics-x-the-soloist-gel-quantum-360-vii-chelea-boot-1201a665-001.html

is this c*lastic, shitty leather, ect

>> No.17538174

>>17538160
>Forced asterick meme

Go back to your containment thread. We don’t take schitzo here.

>> No.17538175

>>17536625
Okay, how about Red wing postman?

>> No.17538176

>>17538174
i can only credit this board to learning what celastic is. the least i can do really

>> No.17538177

>>17537952
>chunkier sole is more casual
Yes, but should be with a rounder, fuller toe to look balance.
>derby with chinos
Yes

>> No.17538179

>>17538176
The least I could tell you spec sperg schitzo is this:

Celastic in the toe is meaningless, practically no effect in durability and comfort

Celastic in the heel could be wildy uncomfortable if they use the flinty hard type (Meermin).

The thing is there is a whole ass category of celastic. There exists super stiff celastic and the soft type. Carmina uses celastic and it does not feel too uncomfortable.

That said I would prefer at least leatherboard for the counter as it is generally more comfortable.

>> No.17538186

>>17537751
How to find similar shoes?

>> No.17538189

>>17538186
Ebay apron toe shoes or moc toe shoes.

>> No.17538193

>>17535918
>>17536595

That is as chonky as it can get from these budget gyw brands. If you really want that Paraboot look, just get them used or on sale from various retailers.

>> No.17538260

>>17538189
thanx

>> No.17538298

If a pair of derbies are slightly narrow around the front, that is if I feel the walls slightly with my little toe, is there any chance of them stretching out a bit over time, or should I return them?

>> No.17538388

>>17538298
Just a little touch is stretchable. Any form of pain warranted return or exchange.

>> No.17538400

>>17538388
fair enough, fair enough
will probably have to return...

>> No.17538595

>>17538400
Stretching is not magic. I don't support stretching / resizing unless for rare shoes that you absolutely want to own and wear.

>> No.17538869

>>17535918
just cough up the money

>> No.17539614

>>17538869
no!

>> No.17539632
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17539632

>>17534080
My main boots I wear which were my old work boots

>> No.17540041

>>17539632
What do you even wear these with? Get some shoe care done.

>> No.17540049
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looking for some leather mules like Guido in 8 1/2 has. picrel

>> No.17540054

Thoughts on 'roo leather?
I swear I had a Déjà vu moment
>random Aussie in a hostel
>slathering actual table butter he got from a convenience store
>says he's had the boots for 40 years
I remember this exact conversation in a different place maybe 10 years ago, maybe I should have asked him if he was in that place all those years ago.

>> No.17540058

>>17540049
Unironically just get the mules from fashion brands like Gucci or Prada, or knock off of them. Not much of a difference.

>> No.17540060

>>17540054
>slathering
On his boots, I have to mention this because this gay board will think he was slathering his butthole with unsalted butter in preparation for gay sex.

>> No.17540106

>>17540054
Based leather. Thin but strong. Too bad it is not more popular despite the abundant of the big rat.

>> No.17540174

Need a black dress shoe for formal wear, mostly funerals and weddings.
Is the cap toe Oxford the go-to?
Recommended brands or alternative?

>> No.17540187

>>17540174
Looking at the Alden’s plain toe Oxford.
Good choice or is the cap toe better?

>> No.17540189

>>17540174
AE park avenue

>> No.17540201
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17540201

Is it okay to buy used dress shoes if they look like this at the bottom?
All of these used shoes look great but the bottoms always look shit like this.
Would it be noticeable?

>> No.17540203

>>17540201
yes

>> No.17540209

>>17540201
you see the circles? indication of significant wear, the sole will likely be spongey at that point and thats a warning sign

>> No.17540215

>>17540209
So best to avoid ones with circular wear?
What about if there are no circles present but they still look generally like the shoe I posted?

>> No.17540223

>>17540189
Recommending AE at current day and time is griefing.

>> No.17540224

>>17540201
They are leather sole. Leather sole get wears and look dirty, and that is normal. Just resole them once you bought.

>> No.17540228

>>17540215
honestly its a gamble buying leather soles not in person, the only way is the spongey touch test to know for certain

>> No.17540358

>>17540223
they remain the most available and relatively cheap for burgers

>> No.17540361

>>17540358
>most available
Yes
>cheap
Not quite

>> No.17540365

>>17540361
what other american made is under 400?

>> No.17540484

>>17540365
Not really any but you don't have to buy American made.

>> No.17540488
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>>17540484
>pay extra to daddy government in tariffs for buying europoor shoes
no thanks

>> No.17540717

>>17534080
brogues are good

>> No.17540787
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17540787

I need white sneakers.
On one hand
I want these
on the other hand
these are not white sneakers

What should I get for a good walking shoe before I do something stupid and buy these things?
Suggestions?

>> No.17540792

>>17540201
expect to resole them.

>> No.17540795

>>17540365
clarks bostonian

>> No.17540943

how are these?
similar in quality to Carmina or Trickers?
what can you expect from chromexcel after some wear?
https://oakstreetbootmakers.com/trench-oxford-black-chromexcel-dainite-sole

>> No.17540947

I need a reccomendation for good leather boots/conbat boots, skinhead aesthetic

>> No.17540992
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>>17536545
>>17536587
These norfmen really know how to make good footwear.

>>17540201
You can find a cobbler to kind of shave off a smaller layer, and then add a stronger layer and perhaps even toe taps.
I personally hate walking on leather soles.

>> No.17541120

>>17540947
docs, mr glowie. always docs and jeans

>> No.17541182

>>17540488
>Buying inferior shoes with higher price tag
Okay, hurt yourself.

>> No.17541453
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17541453

TLB Artista Adelaide oxfords in brown vegano leather. The break-in period was pretty brutal but now they are extremely comfortable.

>> No.17541520
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17541520

Check out my new bottom boots

>> No.17541589

>>17540187
Black captoe oxfords are the shoe for standard business dress. Get them if you don't already have a pair.
Captoes keep things neater looking by keeping creasing localized behind only that part the captoe only.
It's a uniform shoe.
If you're unsure default to the standard uniform.

>> No.17541601

>>17541520
goofy

>> No.17541611

>>17541453
Those look real nice. are they bespoke or did you just get the sizing pretty close?

>> No.17541613

>>17541601
Goober

>> No.17541635

>>17541611
TLB does not make bespoke.

>> No.17541673
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>>17541520
>pp not even visible through those too tight pants

>> No.17541674

>>17541673
This is a blue board. I'll happily post lewd shit on soc.

>> No.17541717

>>17538175
They don't sell them in my country and when I've tried RWs on abroad they've never fit me
the boots, that is

>> No.17541757

Looking for a boot with these specs
Steel toe
Good quality leather
Welted sole not cemented
Waterproof
No zips
Doesn't look like shit

Does it exist?

>> No.17541758

>>17534080
How do i break in my shoes faster?

>> No.17541767

>>17541758
Give it to your servants for a week.

>> No.17541769

>>17541757
Just get Danner.

>> No.17541948

>>17541758
All the old shortcut methods that've been bandied about over decades wreck your shit and were only applicable for soldiers and their shitty issued combat boots they had to get broken-in in a hurry.
Just wear them in naturally.

>> No.17542055

>>17541453
the break-in period was brutal because they don't fit you lmao. They're either too narrow or you have a high instep.

>> No.17542090

>>17541520
Those boots are the worst thing in that picture. I'm not even kidding...the carpet, furniture, rug, et cetera all look good and well matched to each other. But, those "boots" are ugly---too long and slender to the toes and the side elastic is weird.

Also, you should remove those ball caps because it's infantile to display them.

>> No.17542758

>>17542090
>too long and slender

not even a legitimate criticism for chelsea boots.

>> No.17542764

>>17542758
Chelsea boots have always been pretty gay, dude. Some tradies wear them, but it's mostly fags.
inb4 beetles: The Beetles were always a pop rock band full of weirdo fags and metrosexuals.

>> No.17542767

>>17542764
>Chelsea boots are gay
Good. That is the point though.

>> No.17542777

>>17542767
True. Women love fags. They slobbed all over 80s rock hair twinks, and now zoomie girls pant when seeing k-pop twinks.

>> No.17542778

>>17541611
Thank you, I really like how the leather handles the natural creases. And it's super easy to buff too, I think this is the highest quality leather I have experienced. I just went by my regular size for these, as the other anon said TLB does not make bespoke.
>>17542055
I exaggerated a bit but I typically get chafing on my achilles tendon in shoes because I have calluses built up there from previously. But these shoes also chafed a bit right under the malleous, went away after like three wears though.
>>17541520
Beautiful finish, please maintain them that way.

>> No.17542784

>>17542778
Get one of those chalk powder that runners use.

>> No.17543156

>>17540943
CXL is durable. However they are prone to creasing badly if the manufacturer is not particular about leather selection.

Built-wise, Oak street stuffs are decent. Finishing is not up to Carmina level. Then again, they are not dress shoes.

>> No.17543222

>>17543156
thanks, anon. I found a review on reddit that dissuaded me. I'll go for either Carmina or Tricker's.

>> No.17543263

>>17543222
If you go for casual shoes. Trickers looks simply better. Carmina casual attempts feel lacking.

>> No.17543268

>>17540174
Get some Berwick. They are cheap, look okay. Not many need a black cap toe so no need to shell out big money unless you are deep into shoes.

>> No.17543558

>>17535492
how are these called

>> No.17543578
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17543578

>>17534080
Which tlb last should I get ? I also like rm Williams. Not sure which to get

>> No.17543581
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>>17543578
I couldn’t find any more pictures of this last besides from on their website, I imagine it’s a lot like Carminas forest last

>> No.17543689

>>17543558
>>17537742
wont tell because you seem to ignore google lens's existence.

>> No.17543722

>>17543156
Oak Streets are extremely uncomfortable for me and I’ve tried their shit multiple times. It’s the same with Grant Stone. I have wide feet and thick and high arches, though. Parkhurst feels fine for me, but sells out. I would recommend them over the others, though.

>> No.17544373

>>17543581
Last I remember Forest is really slim.

>> No.17544409

>>17543578
I think this last is more appealing.

>> No.17544463

Are Weejuns any decent or should I look for other brands? Looking at used pairs.

>> No.17544485

>>17544463
Unironically buy used AE or Alden.

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>>17534080
Just purchased these

Can I use regular coconut oils or other leather rconditioners on them?

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>>17543581
>>17544373
The forest looks overly bulbous to me kinda like a woman’s shoe

>> No.17544634

>>17534080
what are good brands for wide feet?

>> No.17544641
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>>17544603
I'm partial to these. The handgrade carlos santos are great for their cost.

>> No.17544643

>>17544572
>coconut oils
Useless for your plastic garbage.

>> No.17544698
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What brands should I be looking at for a pair of leather espadrilles around $200-$300?

>> No.17544701

>>17544572
>>17544572
Sneaker leathers are usually so covered in plastic that conditioners do close to nothing on them.

>> No.17544773

What are good warm weather socks for leather shoes?
Summer weight wool?
Brand recommendations?
Looking for something kind of tip to wear casually with bluchers.

>> No.17544970

>>17544641
That's an ugly, overly contrived design.

>> No.17544972

>>17544970
>overly contrived
you sound dumb

>> No.17545038
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>>17544572
>conditioning fake leather

>> No.17545255

>>17544972
You sound reasonable.

>> No.17545424

>>17544773
Viccel

>> No.17546666

come join /btg/ if your general keeps dying

>>17540516
>>17540516
>>17540516

>> No.17547080

>>17541453
w2c trousers?

>> No.17547382

>>17540223
What is wrong with Allen Ed?

>> No.17547394

>>17546666
boot fag general sucks. i'll take a slower general that doesn't hit bump limit over farmer LARP and avatar fags

>> No.17547434

>>17546666
No thanks senpai, I'll stay away from your autist containment thread.

>> No.17547438

>>17547382
New owner has no passion for shoes. The QC is quite bad.

>> No.17547495

>>17541520
Unironically look like cartoon character boots

>> No.17547560

>>17547382
>>17547438
Yeah, construction quality has reportedly gone down the drain and many suspect (know?) that production has been off-shored. They're still a decent enough shoe, but only when purchased on sale. The only remaining positive of AE is their huge range of lasts and the amount of widths and sizes offered - still probably the go-to brand for burgers with wide, narrow or very long feet.

>> No.17547565

>>17547560
I don’t even care if they are offshored, as long the the quality is there, which unfortunately wasnt the case, even when they are still made in the the States.

Why bother with them when the like of TLB, Grant Stone or Carmina provide much better value, also width options.

>> No.17547867

I can't upload images but does anyone have any experience with Velasca? I'm thinking about buying a pair of their derbies for $350 or their vibranium sole loafers.
https://www.velasca.com/products/cumenda-nl
https://www.velasca.com/products/casciaball-n>>17534632
I got the exact same shoes at the preorder and I took the size their print size guide told me to, you can find it in their website but it is pretty much identical to Allen Edmonds' chart.

>> No.17547868

>>17547560
There's no ambiguity about it. 10 years ago it was known that all AE's were made in the Dom republic except one line.

>> No.17548484

>>17547867
Looks like just another white label Spanish made brand.

>> No.17548643

>>17547565
A large factor is I can go to a store and try on a pair of Allen Edmonds in person before deciding whether to buy it. I can't do that with Grant Stone. I suspect that's a big deal for other people too.

>> No.17548697

>>17548643
There are always return or exchange options. Trying shoes in person is important but don't let that limit your shopping choices.

>> No.17548811

>>17548697
time is money

>> No.17548920

>>17548811
What is this even? So busy that you can’t even buy the best shoes for your need?

>> No.17549170

Perhaps someone here can help. I'm looking for leather beltas. Have to be thick (40mm), good quality and have clip on buttons so I can switch buckles. Only stuff I can find are cheap belts from India or China. Any brands or sites I should look for?

>> No.17549226

>>17549170
Tanners good makes 1.5 inch belt (38mm). Is that good enough or must be precisely 40mm?

>> No.17549229

>>17549226
Two mm won't make much of a difference. AFAIK the bigger belt thickness is 40mm and wanted to specify I was looking for thick belts. Will check Tanners out.

>> No.17549236

got me a pair of suede chelsea boots, never owned such shoes before.
went out wearing them once, there is visible waves on the suede around where my toe is. bothers the shit out of me.
how do I gently make the leather flat again? I own a brush made out of horse hair and universal cream but that's for regular, smooth leather.
what do?

>> No.17549243

>>17549236
waves? do you mean creases from natural wear?

>> No.17549247

>>17549243
yeah, creases.
I was driving while wearing them and there is almost what looks like a "fold"

>> No.17549337

>>17549229
Are you talking about thickness or width? Their belt is around 4.2mm thick.

40mm aka 4cm is not an achievable thickness for leather.

>> No.17549341

>>17549236
Is this your first time wearing leather shoes? All leather does that.

>> No.17549346

>>17549247
Shoe trees shoukd minimize existing creases and reduce new ones. But all leather shoes will crease in time to a degree.

>>17549337
Sorry, width. I'm ESL with a hangover.

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>> No.17551246
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I like the look of these Crockett and Jones boots. These would be my first boots, and I never had suede shoes before. Provided I treat them with grease/wax, would these be a bad idea in a rainy environment?

>> No.17551250

>>17551204
i own these
>>17551246
those arent suede

>> No.17551254

>>17551250
>those arent suede
>Rough-out suede is a material that ‘roughs-up’ during wear. Over time, it takes on a rugged, worn aesthetic which makes it our most casual material in the collection. If left uncared for, you will find it lightens and continues to become rougher in look and feel. However, rough-out suede very much benefits from an annual covering in dubbin to uphold its water resistance.
From their website.

>> No.17551268

>>17551254
Crockett Jones has this thing where they like to be needlessly wordy in their marketing.

That is the “Roughout” leather from CFStead, which is created by applying wax on suede. Technically it started out as suede, but is not the same as what most would recognize suede as.

>> No.17551277

>>17543689
Yogi Finn

>> No.17551985
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Looking for a pair of oxblood shoes but I'm having trouble finding any worth buying aside from picrel. Is oxblood / burgundy really a good color, or can dark brown do everything oxblood can? I wear medium grey - charcoal grey trousers, brown and olive green trousers, as well as khaki and navy chinos and I can't decide whether to just stick with the dark brown & black shoes I already have or to get another color of shoe. Plz help.

>> No.17552181

>>17551985
Black is the most versatile color for shoes if that is your concern. Burgundy is alright, worth collecting.

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>>17551268

>> No.17552286

>>17551985
I'd argue that dark brown does pretty much everything that burgundy does, but it's to taste. Burgundy shoes are very American.

>> No.17552336

>>17551246
>would these be a bad idea in a rainy environment?
nah they are good for that stuff but you'll have to rewax more often, something like the snowden with a gusseted tounge could be better if its really rainy. Personally i think the scotch grain or a smooth leather will work better on Conistons.
>>17551250
they are still a split suede, just waxed.

>> No.17552578

>>17535955
Berwick. i presume you can get 10~or 20% off with coupon or first order whatever at least in US.

>> No.17552583

look much better than sneakers

>> No.17552893

>>17534080
question anons, literal retard here.
2 weeks ago I bought my first ever pair of non-sneakers and I have been loving the look and feel.
suede chelsea boots, brown.
I now am looking for shoes I can wear when the weather is nicer. Heavily dislike the look of tassle loafers.
What shoes do I get? I mostly wear polo shirts and chinos nowadays.
I know nothing about leather footwear so just drop knowledge on me

>> No.17552896

>>17552893
penny loafers

>> No.17552933

>>17552893
>shoes I can wear when the weather is nicer
AE Vernon
AE McAlister
in brown
on sale

Goth both. They are superb. Vernons are unique and casual.

>> No.17553030
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>>17552893
handsewn mocs

>> No.17553237

>>17552893
>>17552896
Yeah, probably penny loafers if you don't like the look of tassels. Penny loafers are pretty versatile and suitable in cooler months too. A good, basic addition to any wardrobe.

>> No.17553855

>>17552933
>Vernon

The captoe punching looks ugly.

>> No.17554228

>>17553855
It looks very relaxed and casual, also unique.

>> No.17554651

>>17554228
It’s a fallacy to believe that by adding “garnish” to oxford, you somehow make it “casual” and “unique”. All you did was made it stupid.

>> No.17555342

sneed snoe

>> No.17555387

>>17534080
>Under $170-$200
>No good leather shoes can be made under that price point. Consider used.
Retard here. Does this apply to 3rd world countries? Bought my first non-sneaker shoes from a local leather shoe shop. It's not much ($60, regular cow hide).

>> No.17555554

>>17555387
I’m wrote this simplified guide with goodyear welted shoes in mind.
Even when you go to Bangladesh, China, India, Vietnam, Indonesia, Laos where the labor is cheap. Once you use “better” materials as a baselin, the price for an acceptable shoes would hover around $160-170.

>> No.17555753
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>fall/winter
black derby boots
black penny loafer

>spring/summer
brown tassel loafer
?
I need(want) something that doesn't look like a loafer/moc/driving shoe that goes well with corduroy or linens.

Is pic related the only option? Chukkas/Desert boots?

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>>17555753
Autism wise I feel like a chukka would balance my wardrobe out.

>> No.17555825

>>17555753
Med brown penny loafers.

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>>17555825
I already have pic related, if I had to wear brown loafers I would always choose this over anything else.

>> No.17555875

>>17555855
Another derby. Cant have too many lace ups.

>> No.17555877

>>17555755
suede chukkas >

>> No.17555878

>>17544572
nice bait

>> No.17555881

>>17553030
these are cool, what are they

>> No.17555978

>>17555881
yuketen angler moc

>> No.17556127

>>17555978
damn, too rich for my blood

>> No.17556986

>>17536510
If you mean patent leather, yes. A polished shoe is not cringe though

>> No.17557047 [DELETED] 

Just won a pair of Alden Shell Cordovan split toe derby's on eBay. I'm psyched, my first pair of shell cordovans, they're in great shape and I won the auction as the sole bidder because I'm one of six people who really loves split toes. Today is a good day anons.

>> No.17557147

>>17557047
Pic once you received them.

>> No.17557550
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Is anybody familiar with TLB Mallorca as a brand? I am looking to get a pair of decent quality oxfords, but I know little about leather dress shoes

>> No.17557563
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>>17557550
they are good
also check Berrwick

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>>17557563
I see the offerings from Berrwick are generally priced lower, is this indicative of a lower quality? The obvious cosmetic difference I see is the exposed stitching on the sole of Berrwick shoes, while TLB Mallorca feature a full leather sole.

Pls spoon-feed me with a TLDR on how to select between these brands, fren

>> No.17557843

>>17557573
Closed channel sole (in which the sole stitching is hidden) is a finishing technique that takes more time to do, hence they cost more.

TLB mallorca generally has better finish than Berwick (heel, edge, welt)

The lining and sole leather are also better on the TLB.

The TLB uses leatherboard stiffener while Berwick uses celastic (not a big deal but should affect pricing).

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>>17557843
Thanks anon, purchased these an hour ago

https://berwickshoes.com/gb/2428-k8-toledo-cuero.html

>> No.17558053

>>17555387
>>17555554
Even in third world countries, goodyear welted shoes will set you back a fair amount. Fugashin Shoemakers, the Vietnamese offshoot of the Japanese Fugashin brand, have locally produced shoes that cost about 6,000,000 dong, so approximately $250 USD.

>> No.17558523

>>17557959
Good start.

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Dp you guys condition leather belts? I have a pair that are old and beginning to show a few superficial cracks. I like and use them a lot and don't really wanna throw them away. Or is it useless to condition belts?

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17558915

Give me some effay and preppy tan shoes similar to pic rel so that I don't resort to buying these DocFaggins

>> No.17558918

>>17534080
>>How to care for my leather footwear
>Get a big horsehair brush, a piece of cloth, Saphir Renovateur.
Is it really this easy?

>> No.17559130

>>17557550
Their customer service is remarkable. I ordered a pair of shoes from them and the owner reached out to me via email the next day inquiring about the size of my feet (kinda weird I know). I sent him pictures with measurements of foot length and width drawn on a piece of paper and he pointed out that my feet were wider than normal. For no extra charge he went so far as to make the shoes I ordered in a size wider, a size was not advertised online. They fit great and are priced fairly, would recommend.

>> No.17559135

>>17558704
>Dp you guys condition leather belts
yes

>> No.17559178

>>17559130
Nice! I ended up opting for Berwick and saving $200, but depending on my experience with Berwick, I will keep TLB Mallorca in mind for my next pair of shoes

>> No.17559197

>>17558053
They exemplify cheap labor + quality materials well. They do a range of open channel gyw shoes too, clocking around $190, barely cheaper than the Berwick.

>> No.17559340

I wear a US size between 14 and 15 depending on brand. Possibly a 14 wide?
What European size should I look at? Lots of info says "most should add 31" but at my size it obviously isn't most.

Im thinking 47 or 48 and I am looking at Oxfords or similar dress shoes.

Any brand suggestions are welcome in the $200-400 range.

>> No.17559367

>>17559340
why don't you measure your foot and use a european size chart instead of trying half-assed conversions

>> No.17559386

>>17559367
Are they consistent with sizing? If they're just as fucked as US sizes then no amount of measuring will help anything.

>> No.17559388

>>17558918
Yes.
Brush to remove dirt
Saphir Renovateur nourishes the leather
The piece of cloth to buff the leather (in tandem with shoes cream or wax) to a shine

>> No.17559408

>>17559386
and you think trying to half-ass a conversion from whatever mystery shoe you're wearing will be better?

>> No.17559419

>>17559408
Nigger you still have yet to answer the question. Are EU sizes actually consistent or are they just as fucking retarded as US sizes?

>> No.17559423

>>17559419
You answer the question. You say US sizing is retarded and inconsistent, so why do you think it's a good idea to try converting from a US size?

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https://www.sanders-uk.com/shop-c12/collection-c14/exclusives-c56/venice-p277

Thoughts?

>> No.17559769

>>17555387
>>17555554
I asked the maker and they use blake stitching. Is that bad?

>> No.17559800

>>17558915
State your budget

>> No.17559985

>>17559769
Blake stitching is fine, but the shoes don't make for a good long-term investment since you can only get them properly resoled once.

>> No.17560034

>>17559769
It depends on the gut. Is the insole at least leather?

>> No.17560069

>>17559573
Good the the price.

>> No.17560070

>>17557573
I like my berwick loafers, but they're a bit heftier looking than other brands and they're built like a tank, meaning they took a while to break in
the quality is excellent for the price though, I think I paid 190€

>> No.17560078

>>17559388
How frequently? Weekly, monthly, as needed?

>> No.17560116

>>17560078
Not him and I can't speak for anyone else but I buff my shoes every time before going out, takes like a minute to do and makes your shoes look pretty.
Cream/wax every Sunday, the process honestly feels therapeutic, almost to the point that I do it because I like doing it, not because I want to keep my shoes in good shape.

>> No.17560147

>>17560078
Use your own discretion. Nobody knows what your living, working, commuting condition are like.
Dirty > brush
Leather feels dry > condition
Want a shine > buff, polish

Anon here cream, wax everyday Sunday, some might do it every month or bimonthly. It all depends on your use
>>17560078

>> No.17560148

>>17559800
£200

>> No.17560166

>>17560147
What is the difference between conditioning vs polish vs shining vs waxing? I thought all I needed was the Saphir Renovateur

>> No.17560192

>>17560148
Check Orband derby section, nothing in suede though.

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>>17559573
IMO Paraboot Avignon is a much better looking split toe in a similar, albeit slightly higher price range.

>> No.17560398

>>17535955
I got some meermin loafers recently and they're definitely stiff, just hoping they'll break in well. The construction and quality overall seems good for the price

>> No.17560671

>>17560166
Conditioning is keeping the leather alive with nourishment. That is the bare minimum of leather care. Anything else is optional. For that, I already recommend Saphir Renovateur.

For advance care, you will be looking at Cream polish and Wax polish.
Cream polish helps recolor and give a soft shine. Wax polish helps give a high shine. Polishing or Shining are just interchangeable word for the same thing.

>> No.17560854

>>17560671
Thank you

>> No.17560878

>>17560166
>conditioning
moisturizing the leather. a product that seeps in to the pores of the skin. often a blend of oils and waxes.

>polish
a protective coat on top of the leather, usually with dye in it. can be shined.

>shining
polishing the polish so that it shines.

>waxing?
wax is a common ingredient in boot conditioners and protective coatings but some people like to get a raw bar of wax and rub it into the leather, usually on suede chukkas.

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Cleaned out my dads basement. Found these, told me they don’t fit him and take them. They fit me fine. Bottom says FYE or FRYER or something. Is this a good find?

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>>17560905
Better pic, bottom says FRYE

>> No.17560926

>>17560905
if it's old enough it could be. frye is one of those brands that used to be a good name but has fallen off in recent decades.

>> No.17561019

>>17560905
If the Insole is leather, they are good. If not, no.
Frye used to be good, now they are more of a fashion brand. Any idea how old are they?

>> No.17561021

>>17560905
depends if you got the used to be good frye or the its complete dogshit frye

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17561108

Any other companies making nice leather slides? These Vibergs look good but pretty expensive for how minimal they are, and I need some slip ons.

>> No.17561139

>>17561108
just cough up the money

>> No.17561145

>>17561139
Yea I probably will

>> No.17561228

>>17559985
I see, thanks. Maker says 5 years with proper care.
>>17560034
Yes it is leather.

>> No.17561239

>>17559769
do you like a direct channel from the outsole to the insole to allow water ingress? then yes blake stitch is for you

>> No.17561529

Anyone ITT know whether or not saphir renomat is too harsh for goat/kidskin?
I can find no mention of it anywhere but saphir make a renovatuer alternative, nappa, specifically for more thin and fragile leathers like goat. Makes me wonder if renomat would wreck my shit.

>> No.17561552

My friends, anyone one have some good recs for penny loafers, ideally below 300? I‘ve seen some decent ones from scarosso, are they well made?
Also is blake stitching something to avoid with loafers? They Probably don‘t last as long as boots anyways so only getting 1 or 2 resoles out of them is probably fine right?

>> No.17561560

>>17561552
You can still get GYW for below $300 (presuming USD), so I see no reason to go for blake stitched. Just taking a look at Bradshaw & Lloyd, you can get Barker Portsmouths for $240, Loake Imperials (Shoemaker line) for $230, Loake Hornbeams (1880 line) for $280. Sanders come in just above the prive point that you're looking at. Take into account shipping, of course. Not sure what shipping is like to the US and unsure of what local options for purchasing Loake or Barker shoes is like. We have a Loake store here in Sydney, so you can at least try a pair on before buying them from the UK for significantly less.

>> No.17561568

>>17561239
Boogeyman doomposting schitzo is for /btg/ mkay? Go back there.

>> No.17561570

>>17561228
That’s a true estimation. Though make sure that the hard part you are standing on is leather, not and a fiberboard topped with a leather cover. Even if the insole is real leather, with that pricing, expect the upper is from less-prime cow, which might deter you from resoling once the creases start to set in.
>>17559985
Even with bad cobbler, Blake stitch shoes can be resoled at least thrice before the insole gave out.

>> No.17561598

Paul Evans NY any good?

>> No.17561620

>>17561529
I'd assume it will at worst probably just over-saturate it, giving it a heavier, wetter, look.

>> No.17561700

>>17561560
Im from the EU so british companies are better. Not a huge fan of the loakes look though

>> No.17561726

>>17561700
Maybe Berwick, then?

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>>17561726
Thanks, good recommendation

>> No.17561948

>>17561700
>Im from the EU
>>17557563

>> No.17561956

>>17534632
rancourt is great they usually recommend to go down a half size. i once bought a pair a whole size too small and was to stretch them out good enough

>> No.17562015

>>17534098
>buying a bit loafer that isn't gucci
>buying a tassel loafer that isn't alden
>buying a penny loafer that isn't bass
>buying a ripoff of anything when the original is still being produced

kys

>> No.17562028

>>17562015
kek imagine buying bass in 1970+53

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>>17561568
not a boogeyman, but a fact

>> No.17562330

>>17562147
>Hypothetically
>Supposedly
>Theoretically

Yea kiddo, I worn my old cheapo blake shoes under the light shower and wet pavement just fine. You have 0 experience. Spec sperg in the containment thread. Your dumb kind is not welcome here. Gitt.

>> No.17562338

>>17561529
Renomat is a stripping agent. It won’t damage the leather itself, just nuke the finish and dirt, grime, stain. But do condition the leather after renomat and you will be fine.

>> No.17562341

>>17562330
i've had blake stitched shoes leak

>> No.17562394

>>17562341
>Leak
>Shoes

Did you use your shoes as a water pot or you an ESL?

>> No.17562409

>>17562394
>doesn't address the water ingress
>goes to attack other users
really makes you think

>> No.17562415

>>17562394
Not that anon, but “leaky boots” is a perfectly acceptable English phrase. Leaking is a concept that applies to both letting water out, and keeping water in. “My tent is leaking” “My car roof is leaking” “My bottle is leaking” “My boots are leaking” “/pol/ is leaking into the rest of this fucking site”

Look it up.

>t. Native born American English speaker

>> No.17562440

>>17562409
>>17562330
Im sorry you cant read. Buy better shoes next time from maker who at least wax the thread.

>> No.17562447

>>17562415
he's a blake stitch shill

>>17562440
>new england outerwear company mohawks are bad
lmao, ok

>> No.17562472

>>17562415
Fair enough.

>> No.17562479

>>17562447
>white label shoes with no oversight
Uh oh, who will tell him

>Blake stitch shill
Kiddo, my first pair was Blake, served me well for a long time as a beater pair. Now I no longer own any blake stitch as have moved on to gyw and other stuffs, but would still recommend well priced blake’d shoes for occasions and styles that would fit it.

If your braincell can not comprehend styles, move on from this thread and board, go back to your schitzo autost containment thread where you monkeys fling shits at each other for things that don’t matter in real life.

>> No.17562925
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Would these go well with light colored chinos or khakis, or would you need contrast (black, grey, blue slacks)? Trying to put together summer fits and I cant tell how versatile these are. A darker brown is also available.

>> No.17562993

>>17561108
Birkenstock.

>> No.17563131

>>17562925
Tan shoes are best worn with lighter trousers. Realistically, they "go" with anything except for darker greys (charcoal), black and navy, which is what makes it such a casual colour. If matching them with khaki chinos, just make sure that they aren't the exact same shade. Also those shoes are probably dogshit. Buy a proper pair.

>> No.17563143

>>17562925
Simple beginner rule to remember: Trousers must be same shade or lighter colored than shoes.

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Just bought these. What am I in for?

>> No.17564008

I didnt see a "Questions that dont deserve their own thread" thread so i'll ask it here.

I just got an office job starting in two weeks so im looking to get more professional footwear. That said there isnt a strict dress code, so it can be fairly casual. Im thinking some beige derbys would fit in there. What are some good brands to keep an eye out for? Price point can be whatever

>> No.17564014

>>17564008
Crockett and Jones

>> No.17564026

>>17564014
thx anon!

>> No.17564194

>>17563143
So dark brown shoes are the best beginner shoes since you can basically go with whatever colour/shade pants you want? Except black or whatever

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>>17564194
Dark brown is good because it's versatile enough to function as casual and business wear, just don't try to wear it with anything TOO light. It will look weird if you're wearing it with something verging on off-white. Mid-browns with some red undertones (the sort of colour you'd see being called Mahogany or Oak, etc.) can be a good option too. Don't think too hard about what works as a "beginner shoe", because you'll want a few pairs to rotate anyway, especially if they have leather soles.

>> No.17564537

>>17560671
>>17560878
Very helpful. So should I just get Saphir MDO wax polish with no color and use it on any color shoe?

>> No.17564689

>>17564194
Basically, but I find Black as the most kino shoes color as it goes with everything, even brown slacks (as what else is darker than black?).

>> No.17564691

>>17564537
Sure.

>> No.17564692

>>17563959
Barker makes standard Loake level shoes,serviceable,look decent, nothing fancy or stunning

>> No.17565176

>>17544634
lose weight