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Boot General - HANDWELTED EDITION

What do I need to care for my boots?
>Old cotton t shirt (one for cleaning, another for applying conditioners)
>Horsehair brush ($10-15)
>Wooden shoe trees ($10-15)
>Light conditioner like Lexol/Bck4
>Heavy conditioner (if you live in terrible snow/rain areas) Sno seal/Obernauf LP

How do I deal with x stain?
>mud: allow it to dry then brush off
>salt: water and cloth as soon as possible
>saturated wet: allow the boot to dry for a full day, stuff with newspaper
>scuffs and scratches: buff vigorously with horsehair brush

>Should I buy turdsdays/soloshits/doc shitans?
no
>b-b-but muh ecelebs on youtube said they're good
no. you will waste your time and money and still have uncomfortable footwear at the end of the day. spend the extra $100 and get something real.

PREV>>17258347

>> No.17263499
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first for chocolate horse butts

>> No.17263589
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don't buy thursdays

>> No.17263635

>>17263499
Are those horsey stretch marks???

>> No.17263643

>>17263635
opposite
horsey shrink marks

>> No.17263649

>>17263491
Why are you unable to put the thread name in the subject field? You do this every time

>> No.17263661
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Rate my baker's custom build

>Black waxed flesh leather
>7 inch height (+1 inch)
>no logo
>pull loop
>rolled top
>plain toe
>Nickel eyes and hooks
>brown sole edge
>single celastic toe
>standard logger heel
>no liner
>vibram 430 sole

>> No.17263668

>>17263661
>c*lastic
drop that and it be perfect

>> No.17263670
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>>17263649

>> No.17263686

>>17263643
honey i shrunk the horsebutt

>> No.17263689

>>17263491
>white clown fucks up the OP

why am I not surprised lmao

>> No.17263698
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>people complaining about the subject field
Do you guys not have 4chanx or something

>> No.17263704

>>17263689
hes slow but he means well

>> No.17263724
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>> No.17263745

>>17263491
How much do you think the worker in the webm makes? Minimum wage?
Also that's not a true stitchdown.

>> No.17263753

>>17263745
Yeah cause whites does gigachad stitch down with the extra step of handwelting as shown in the webm

The awl goes through the holdfast carved from the insole, through the lining and upper to the welt, which is then stitched down to the outsole

>> No.17263760

>>17263753
Looks like ass and isn't as strong as true stitchdown. Shill.

>> No.17263763
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>>17263760

>> No.17263765

wait a minute
are whites just handwelted but without the upper trimmed and instead folded out

>> No.17263777

>>17263765
Handwelted PLUS stitchdown

>> No.17263795

>>17263777
fuckin weld it down while youre at it

>> No.17263803

>>17263795
welds break when you flex

>> No.17263837

>>17263668
Why tho

>> No.17263860

>>17263745
Probably 20-30 dollars an hour which is good but nothing amazing, especially in an extremely expensive state like Washington

>> No.17263871

>>17263745
>>17263760
>Also that's not a true stitchdown
>Looks like ass and isn't as strong as true stitchdown
Friendly reminder that this poster is a troll who comes to these threads every day to troll and get reactions from people by saying incorrect and frankly stupid things
Just ignore him and do not reply. Thanks

>> No.17263875

>>17263765
It's hand welted and then they fold out the uppers and do stitchdown as well. It's like a hybrid

>> No.17263893
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Hey guys make sure you place your order for the Trenton and Heath Stag boot from Nicks!
Don't you guys want to own this $600+ two tone smooth/roughout wingtip boot?
The website says it's so versatile you can wear it to a wedding!

>> No.17263905

>>17263837
c*lastic makes for clown toes

>> No.17263906
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>>17263765

>> No.17263936

>>17263871
Still better than being a shill.

>>17263906
Right looks way better.

>> No.17263939

>>17263936
post with a trip, thanks

>> No.17263945

>>17263893
Coping hard I see. Good boots with a tranny heel.

>> No.17263965

>>17263945
/tranny heel/i;
so long faggot

>> No.17264019

>>17263939
Dont take the bait. He is being a retard on purpose.

>> No.17264038

>>17263724
Proper boots would offer more surface are for that sole to grip, subpar t.ranny hiils at it again.

>> No.17264072

/boot/ has high schizo energy and i dont mind

>> No.17264075
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Anybody else watch Trenton & Heath's new Doc Marten video keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek

>> No.17264085

>>17264075
no spoilers :/

>> No.17264094

trannyheel

>> No.17264099

>>17263906
but what's even the point, stiching a welt just makes more holes in the leather.

>> No.17264106

>>17264099
with a pure stitchdown its possible to damage the uppers to the point where you can no longer stitch, its why stitchdowns have a wider shelf to make it easier for future resoles

>> No.17264115

>>17264106
you still damage the upper you just dont see it

>> No.17264116

>>17264099
Mostly extra strength in the welt area.

>> No.17264133

>>17264099
hides the ugly crease of the uppers being bent outwards, creates a nice defined separation between the upper and the welt, tucks the uppers in instead of being this flared out bell shape all around on stitchdown,

>> No.17264214

So is celastic toe good or shit? Give it to me straight guys

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>>17264214
bad. terrible. see that giant clown toe? celastic. unstructured toe will age and feel better

>> No.17264237

>>17264224
the toe bumb is from the shape of the last, not the celastic
the fact it doesn't collapse is because of the structured toe, but the last is what gives it that shape, not the celastic

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>>17264237
>the toe bumb is from the shape of the last

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>>17264237
both are 55 last and yet you can see the left boot has a lower overall profile despite being a true two layer cap toe.

>> No.17264262

>>17264214
>So is celastic toe good or shit?
if you want the boot to look like it should in 5 years no
it fo want to look like Pinocchio and have a better fit go unstructured

>> No.17264428

>>17264262
What the fuck are you trying to say

>> No.17264472

it's hilarious out of all 4chan boards, the boot thread on /fa/ would be the shittiest most schizo threads on there

>> No.17264487

>>17263745
Its a video for marketing purposes. Whites are made in China

>> No.17264535

>>17264262
>it fo want to look like Pinocchio and have a better fit go unstructured
Jesus, structured it is then

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Always use a structured toe, otherwise it ages poorly

>> No.17264587

Any good shoe/boot shops in Munich? Around 300 EUR price range

>> No.17264621
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>>17263491
Question to this anon are they 6 inch like timbs?

>> No.17264724
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there's no way this toecap is correct

>> No.17264819

>>17264724
it just looks weird because it's a f width

>> No.17264851

>>17264621
Shaft is 17cm. If you want a timb lookalike they have that though
shoepassion.eu/mens-boots/no-695.html
shoepassion.eu/no-6710.html

>> No.17264857
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Can anyone speak on Bates? I need a CSA approved work boot (steel/composite toe and puncture proof sole) and i’m thinking of getting these and use them as my regular winter boots as well

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>>17264857
Get a pair of Lowa, they look better

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>>17264867
I don’t really think those look good
>>17264857
What about blundstones

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>>17264872
>I don’t really think those look good
>What about blundstones

>> No.17264962

>>17264724
nigs saving a couple dollars by shortchanging the cap toes

>> No.17264963

>>17264872
Insane irony in this post

>> No.17265031

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPyhO7vP4k8
>be absolute retard
>buy one of the cheapest engineer boots out there knowing full well how shit the construction and materials are
>send them brand new to some guy you saw on youtube to "improve"
>pay him more than double of what the actual boots cost to completely rebuild them day1
>dude completely fucks up the shape of the toe box by ripping out the steel toe and gluing the lining and vamp together free hand "in the air" without using any kind of last
>the left boot has a massive air pocket on the toe (14:55)
>the fiberboard internals are replaced by leather, but leaving a massive fucking gap in the heel (7:45), where most of your bodyweight presses on the boot, totally won't feel that everytime you step
>all in all you pay significantly over what it would cost to get a better engineer boot in the first place and get a completely botched boot in return
i will never get the point of day1 resoles and rebuilds
just fucking wear them until it's time of a resole and then send them to a guy to remake according to your autistic specs or don't fucking buy the bots in the first place if they bother you that much
holy shit

>> No.17265050

>>17264872
>>17264879
>>17264963
Blundstones are like the bell curve slowjak meme where they’re considered effay by low iq and high iq extremes but not by midwits

>> No.17265053

>>17265031
same type of guy who rice the fuck out of their cars thinking they can do a better job than the manufacturer

could have gone with a pair of wesco bosses for the price

>> No.17265077

do you think it'd be possible to have the mto boots from Bakers account for one of my feet having a slightly lower instep? How would they even change the lasting process for that particular boot? It's not any more narrow than the other foot, it just has a lower instep which makes the top of the foot not as snug, so simply making it one letter size down compared to the 'normal' foot wouldn't solve the problem.

Every boot i've ever bought has never fit right because of it, and I don't want to wait 6+ months for something I know won't fit. I HATE how different boots feel on each foot, and it affects my walking cause I feel in every step which then fucks up my one knee.

>> No.17265085

>>17265077
send an email to kyle (orders@bakershoe.com) mentioning the lower instep. he'll probably ask you for a couple measurements and make recommendations from there

>> No.17265088

If a last feels snug on suede, then it definitely will be too small on calfskin right? Isn't suede more forgiving?

>> No.17265101

>>17265085
That's the thing though, I've already submitted measurements and he came up with a recommended size for the pair already, both going to be made the same size. The measurements both both feets' insteps were the same within margin of error.

However, in one way or the other, the straight number measurement doesn't really account for one foot being a different shape -only that the circumference lengths are the same. I know this difference affects the fit of the left vs the right boot/shoe because EVERY single footwear I've bought, kept or returned, has shared the same issue.

>> No.17265118

>>17265101
i dunno what to tell you, he can only recommend on the numbers you provide, and if you provided the same number for both feet he can only recommend based on the numbers. maybe send him a pic or make a distinction in the numbers

>> No.17265128

>>17265031
This is part of the hobby. Customizing new boots with wacky details and/or tricking preexisting boots. Is it autism? Yes! It feels like the fun for these type of autists is the process itself and not the footwear.

>> No.17265136

>>17265101
The fitting of White's is nothing magic.
Their clown last is already generally wide.
They just have many width options.
But length + width combo do not account for instep height.
I have seen plenty of white's with bad instep fit that rely on stretching the leather painfully with your foot to barely work.
In your case of low instep, you can just tighten the lace harder.

>> No.17265161

>>17265050
>considered effay

Blundstone are the opposite of effay. Chelsea boots are nice because they are sleek and sharp. Blundstones are a goofy abomination.

The only reason they exist is because someone had the good idea of combining a lugged sole with the chelsea practical wearability, making it a practical boot for light farming work etc. Nowadays it's mostly the boot for 30+ year old women who decided to start gardening.

>> No.17265162

>>17265050
they are not and never will be

>> No.17265169
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Best options for Chelsea boots in the $150 - $300 range?
My old Canada west boots finally need replacing. They're workhorses but kinda plain and blah looking , pic related

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>>17265169
ot blundstones

>> No.17265176

>>17265169
Blundstone

>> No.17265178

>>17265175
Fuck no lol

>> No.17265199

>>17265136
>In your case of low instep, you can just tighten the lace harder

believe me, I've tried this and every other variation of tying the laces, nothing works as well as the boot just needing to fit right. Tightening the laces past 'normal' amount just squishes the sides in more, and that doesn't help when the matter is about what is on top of the foot, not on the sides. Every step has it so that there's a delay in lift of the boot compared to the other because it isn't as snug, it's absolutely maddening. The heavier the boot, the more obvious it is.

Honestly, im thinking about cancelling the order altogether, someone else can get their pair earlier with mine no longer needing production.

>> No.17265226

>>17265199
Budget?
If you need instep adjustment, you need makers that do last modification.

>> No.17265237

>>17265226
I'm at a little over $550 for this mto I'm waiting on. Part of me really just wants to cancel, I 99% know how it's gonna end up if I wait for them to arrive in a few months.

>> No.17265243

>>17265199
Probably your best bet is to find a last with a low instep (e.g. Carmina Forest) and ask them to last the other shoe with the laces open for a higher instep.

I know Bonafe MTOs you can ask for open laces on the lasting for higher instep, I'm sure Carmina would do it.

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rump

>> No.17265469

>>17264587
Adding Nuremberg to the question

>> No.17265487

Is Lloyd any good for the price?

>> No.17265520

>>17264587
red wing shoes in munich
it's 350 eurodinars, but i wouldn't go any cheaper than red wing, because the quality gets bad really quick the lower you go
if you don't like the style they will at least measure you on brannock, find your size in the iron ranger, which will help to reference your size with other boot brands you could get online instead

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recently discovered Fracap, old italian brand that handcraft gyw boots on order. Their product line is mainly based on an alpine-style hiking boot, but they have some other nice lace ups. Prices are not that bad either, between 300-400 eur. Thought it was worth sharing

>> No.17265641

>>17265540
Fuck off newfag

>> No.17265688

No buying guide/what to look for?
No poorfag suggestions?

>> No.17265690

>>17265641
you're welcome for the tip, clown

>> No.17265694

https://youtu.be/ZuUghkdyyNU
>the poron collapsed

>> No.17265703

>>17265694
>but you can resole our boots!

>t. company who S O M E H O W hasn't ever raised their prices of their "great value" after all these years

gee how. just HOW do you think they managed that.

>> No.17265797

>>17265694
lmao
>the poron collapsed
cushiony insoles not even once

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>> No.17265854

why does everyone respect alden when the jut fake moc stitching?

>> No.17265878

>>17265854
Because 90% of moc toes have fake stitching. It is for aesthetics just like brogueing.

>> No.17265881

>>17265878
well yes but theirs is particularly lazy looking

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>>17265881
Probably because the moc toe stitching on the plain Indy is done on newer machines. On the older pairs (at least the ones I’ve seen circa ~1970s) the stitching was more pronounced. You can still get the more pronounced stitching in handstitched make ups and all the NSTs. It’s not going to be like the workboot moc toe aesthetic if that’s what you’re used to.

>> No.17265899

>>17265897
steve always mentions the string underneath but most of them look flat. that one actually looks good unlike most of the ones you see now

>> No.17265913
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>>17265899
Going back to your original question, Alden is “respected” mainly for their lasts and shell cordovan (especially the rarer colors). They also do a ton of retailer specific make ups in different leathers and sole options but you have to actively search them out.

>> No.17265927
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some of alden's offerings are ok

>> No.17265955

>>17264246
left boot has ugly wrinkles because the fool who owns it doesn't use a boot tree.
right book looks normal.

>> No.17265967

>>17265955
Left is unstructured toe, right is celastic toe.

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>> No.17266126

>>17265690
What tip? People have been posting those for months you fucking drooling mongoloid. You didn't discover shit, you're the last person to find out about fracap.

>> No.17266184
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>>17264224
> unstructured toe will age and feel better
wrong

>> No.17266289

>>17266126
Not true, never seen them, I'm literally the first. You're welcome autismo. Stop being mad.

>> No.17266306

>>17266126
meds

>> No.17266334

>>17265050
this
>>17265161
they're truly effay because they where once a practical work boot and in this age of endless copies of copies of originals the humble workboot transcends simplicity and aesthetics and the blundstone boot like the doc martin is an original combination of simplicity and utilitarianism, the opposite of gaudy

>> No.17266443

maybe if the pound tanks hard enough I'll get a pair of stows
assuming I have any money at that point

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Cop?

>> No.17266525

You guys are literally a bunch of college students comparing things like rows of stitching and other meaningless things as if you actually do anything in your boots besides walk to and from the bus stop

>> No.17266529

>>17266525
>haha if you only walk you don't deserve or need strong boots!
Buddy I'm as sedentary as they come, and I destroyed my cemented Timberlands in one and a half winter season.
Not to mention the fact that they always felt light, too flexy, and cheap. Or the fact that the leather was mismatched from the beginning.

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>>17266525
bold of you to assume im college educated

>> No.17266538

>>17266525
https://youtu.be/4ZK8Z8hulFg
It’s literally this but replace Reddit with general
Irrefutable video

>> No.17266543

>>17266538
>just be a blind consumer bro, trust the marketing!

>> No.17266544

>>17266538
If it wasn't for this general, I'd still be wearing cork-injected, fiberboard-soled shitboots.

>> No.17266558

>>17266538
yeah but whats the issue? should nobody ever care about or discuss anything?

>> No.17266592

>>17266525
there's nothing wrong with that, this is a fashion board after all.
I have my work boots for work, but they're not particularly fashionable.

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>> No.17266607

>>17266525
buddy, i finished college last year and i'm just walking in them to and from my car, which sucks because the pedals scratch my boots all the time
shows how much you know

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17266640

it pink

>> No.17266678

>>17266640
shaft too fat

>> No.17266693

>>17266544
and you still are

>> No.17266696

>>17266693
this isn't r/th*rsdays

>> No.17266727

Checking in after a year to say most boots I've worn in from Guidi to SLP to military to customs with vibrams all eat shit. Unnatural, posture fuckers, all uncomfortable, debuff, overpriced shill rat traps. What works for me are, vibram five fingers, flat foot basic sandals, and generic flat slip ons. Significantly better for my overall well being. All hoes were subconsciously more relatable with thrifted Acme boots than everything else. Face, height and low body fat matters more.

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>>17266727
did everyone clap? looking forward to the things that didn't happen sequel

>> No.17266738

>>17266727
so you wore shitty meme boots and are mad at us because???

>> No.17266754

>>17266727
Are you the zero drop barefoot shoe shill who bought boots several sizes to small?

>> No.17266827

>>17266696
you boots are still filled with synthetic, lulz

>> No.17266831

>>17264246
What the fuck is this logic? Buy clown toe boots then take out the structural shaping piece so they look less bulky, but still clowny and will have ugly crease on top.
Just buy slim toe in the first place.

>> No.17266842

What's the coolest boot/shoe you thrifted. I just saw some Florsheim Imperial PTBs, didn't get them though

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i like this combo

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>>17266842
these Yuketen DB Maine Guide in waxed flesh, paid less than 250

>> No.17266892

>>17266842
I have never

>> No.17266919
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which should i cop

>> No.17266941

>>17266919
>tranny clown boots
can't make this shit up

>> No.17266942

>>17266919
Bottom

>> No.17267007

>>17266919
rope

>> No.17267015

>>17266919
you should not

>> No.17267016
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Anybody knows of a fake military desert boot like sorel (pic related)?

Don't want anything that looks too larping, but just streetwear syled after desert boots. Don't care about the quality either. The only issue I have wit pic related is the white outsole.

>> No.17267019
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>>17266727
I don't remember anyone fucking asking

>> No.17267029
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Imagine having short AND wide feet
Just big wide flippers

>> No.17267031

>>17267016
Just get some actual combat boots. Combat boots are basically just sneakers with a higher shaft

>> No.17267038
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>>17267016
>Don't want anything that looks too larping, but just streetwear syled after desert boots

>> No.17267052

>>17267016
just buy palladiums. they're actuall desert boots

>> No.17267079

How are toes supposed to sit in the toebox or a boot?
I mean, in general how much space should be present between the tip of the toes and the leather upper?

>> No.17267080

>>17267029
What size is that? 5EEE?

>> No.17267088

>>17267079
quarter to half inch. toes should NEVER touch the uppers

>> No.17267093
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>>17266919
yagas with the dunlop sole

>> No.17267097

>>17267079
0.5 - 1.5 inches depending on the last. Dressier lasts have more unusable toe space. Toe room doesn’t matter as long as the widest part of the boot and your foot line up. As long as that is true the flex point should be in the correct spot unless you have a EEEE width foot.

>> No.17267106

>>17267097
>>17267088
I guess that's my case for first and second toe, less for other three. They don't touch, but there isn't much space in front of them. Might be a dressier tapered last.
Flex point is correct, probably being new and stiff I have some slippage and i move forward.
I wonder how it will improve.

>> No.17267115

Anyone have recs for some nice boots under about $350? Already have a pair of iron rangers.

>> No.17267116

>>17267106
What kind of socks are you wearing? Is it heel slip or are you sliding forward on the footbed? If the heal slip is ~1/4 in then it will usually go away has the heel count forms to your ankle and the sole gets broken in. If you’re wear dress socks the ditch those and get some wool socks with more cushion.

>> No.17267120

>>17267088
What about the pinky toe making contact with the widest part of the shoe

>> No.17267153

>>17267120
absolutely not

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>> No.17267247

>>17264724
It's not a proper cap toe

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>>17267247
Forgot pic

>> No.17267255

>>17267247
no they short changed the toe caps to save a couple cents

>> No.17267304

>>17267115
nothing noteworthy under that price

>> No.17267321

>>17267115
Thorogood 1892 Beloit
Sadly they aren’t produced anymore but you might be able to find them NOS.

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>>17267115
Here is a picture of what I’m talking about.

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Thoughts? Kinda want to get them and dye them black

>> No.17267446

>>17267424
is that the dayton or the canada west edition?

(cause dayton contracts out to canada west and charges dayton prices)

>> No.17267491

>>17267446
canada west. Sadly Dayton are but a shadow of their former self

>> No.17267539

>>17266693
>>17266827
>Wescos
>filled with synthetic

>> No.17267611
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Just found out i’m a 9.5 on a brannock and I’ve been wearing size 8 all my life.

>> No.17267622

>>17267115
Adelante boots if in America, Urban Shepherd if in Europe

But ultimately/alternatively save up to buy a pair of Trumans or Whites

>> No.17267646

>>17267539
>He doesn’t know

I’m sorry man

>> No.17267647

>>17267646
I've seen them built, torn apart, cut in half, ...
Feel free to enlighten me.

>> No.17267653

>>17267647
Filler and the new not leather heel counter my man.

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>>17267653
Wesco doesn't use filler, see pic.
Source: https://youtu.be/qGswRWKgBCk?t=122

What you're seeing here is the entire underside right before the midsole is slapped on.
The beige you're seeing in between the liner is the full leather insole.
The actual upper leather is splayed outwards, so there's no real void underneath the front part of the foot to be filled in, all that's tucked between the insole and the midsole is a really thin liner.

At most there's something underneath the shank, but that might just be glue or even leather.

>not leather heel counter
So what is it?

>> No.17267718

>>17267115
Meermin (chinese), velasca, shoepassion, scarosso, berwick, tlb

>> No.17267726

>Bought my Church's McFarlanes for £350 down from £470 18 months ago
>They go to £870
>They go to £970
>They're now at £1070
>Wholesale distribution slashed and no promotions on own site
Shame as I love the McFarlanes and wanted a pair of Coalports but I'm not paying piss take prices. Everyone's gone up a bit but Church's are shocking.

>> No.17267740

>>17267692
That might have been how it was. Now I see some foam filler inside.

New counter is some synthetic TM material, forgot the name. Blue color.

>> No.17267742

>>17267740
Feel free to post source for both.

>> No.17267783

>>17267742
Search for Stytherm counter and the Dr sole rebuild.

>> No.17267812

>>17267783
>Dr sole rebuild
This one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kAr9TpFqKg
He doesn't take off the midsole, there's nothing to see.

>Stytherm
This isn't new, they've been doing this for many years.
It's not something I'm walking on, and it keeps its shape after many years.
Heel counters and toe structures are allowed to be synthetic, it's arguably better than leather (thinner, stronger over time, ...)

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>>17267692
>At most there's something underneath the shank, but that might just be glue or even leather.
Confirmed leather. Looks like leftover bits of upper leather.

>> No.17267881

>>17267812
Not that video, the one where they relast.

>not something im walking
Receive wears and stress from rubbing

>better than leather
Wrong and coping

>>17267875
In this case, nothing. That is the flesh fuzz.

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>>17267881
>Not that video, the one where they relast.
So post it.

>Receive wears and stress from rubbing
Yes, because plastic wears out from rubbing against it with leather lmao.

>Wrong and coping
Leather in the toebox/heel counter eventually slumps and collapses.
Leather is generally terrible for keeping anything but a flat shape.
Pic very related.

>In this case, nothing. That is the flesh fuzz.
That is two layers of black leather in between the insole/shank/midsole.

>> No.17267908

>>17267885
Find it yourself, Im lazy man

>plastic wears out
So you admit yourself the plastic (I don’t even know what material it actually is) Wesco uses is bad and will wear out

> leather counter collapse
Not really, barely happens, most they do is compress in the case of thin counter on dress shoes. Bunch of those PNW with thick counter barely see any deformity to them.

> leather toe collapse
Also never happen, not even on dress shoes lol. The point of leather toe stiffener is to keep the rigid shape. Where do you even see that? That whites you posted have no toe stiffener

>Im talking about the forefoot filler. For the shank area, that could be just the lasted upper, hopefully not plastic filler also.

Hope the fuck do you go from praising leather to praising synthetic after just dissing them?

>> No.17267918

>>17267908
>>plastic wears out
>So you admit yourself the plastic (I don’t even know what material it actually is) Wesco uses is bad and will wear out
No, I was being sarcastic.

>Not really
I just showed you a pic of a leather toebox collapsing, and these shoes weren't used that hard.
It's an objective fact that celastic etc. in the toebox and heel counter retain their shape better.

>Also never happen
I literally just showed you proof of it happening.

>How the fuck do you go from praising leather to praising synthetic after just dissing them?
I was talking about the SOLE from the very beginning; see >>17266544

Everything you actually walk on has to be leather, metal, or rubber. Pretty much anything else is shit for sole construction.

>> No.17267920

>>17267908
>spends all this time and effort on an autistic argument
>"Im lazy"
Better find some other excuse.

>> No.17267923

>>17267116
Kinda thick sponge cotton socks. With wool ones they’re still tight but better.
Slip occurs both way, on heel but also in front: leather is stiff and I can’t tied them tightly around my thin legs. Now I got blisters so it’s even harder to tell, might post a pic of the insoles to check.

>> No.17267936

>>17267115
grant stone suedes or seconds

>> No.17267952
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What Boots are these fine gentlemen wearing?

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>>17267952
Corrected pic

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>>17267954
Goddamnit apple. Another attempt

>> No.17267996

>>17267908
Retard

>> No.17268056

>venture outside of /boot/
>people are complaining about the existence of backstays
>return to /boot/

>> No.17268057

>>17267918
Where is the leather toe box? Can’t you see that there is no toe box?
Trolling or ignorant?
The heel counter in your pic is in shape.

Anyway it seems you have quite a compartmentalized approach to material acceptability. There are more to a boot than the sole. But that’s alright, have to pay more to get more leather anyway.

>>17267920
Dr sole wesco anniversary rebuild, looks it up yourself.

>> No.17268061

>>17268057
>Where is the leather toe box? Can’t you see that there is no toe box?
You don't know what a toe box is.

>that’s alright, have to pay more to get more leather anyway
Vibergs have celastic in the heel counter AND high density foam in the sole, and they cost more than Wesco boots.

>> No.17268063

>>17267957
Balmoral boots like the respected upper-class men they are, unlike the dirt poop workers who wear clowny boots.

>> No.17268065

>>17268061
You don’t know what a leather toe stiffener is. Look hard between the 2 layers of lining and outer. Do you see a separate piece of veg tan leather?

>Viberg
Viberg switched to leather toe and heel stiffeners last year.

>> No.17268069

>>17268061
Never understood the filler sperging.
Viberg could have not used foam and they will look like Wesco and old White’s. It’s not like they replace the filler from something more premium.

Just to avoid cork, do you people exclusively wear stitchdown?

>> No.17268073

>>17268065
>You don’t know what a leather toe stiffener is. Look hard between the 2 layers of lining and outer. Do you see a separate piece of veg tan leather?
The whole point is that the boot with only leather in the toe box and no celastic stiffener will collapse.

>Viberg switched to leather toe and heel stiffeners last year.
Doesn't change what I said.
Also, source pls.

>>17268069
>It’s not like they replace the filler from something more premium.
Wesco, White's, Nick's, ... don't use filler at all.

>Just to avoid cork, do you people exclusively wear stitchdown?
There are more ways to avoid filler than stitchdown.

>> No.17268077

>>17268069
>Just to avoid cork, do you people exclusively wear stitchdown?
Viberg uses a foam filler in their stitchdown boots lol

>> No.17268083

>>17268073
That what I meant by saying you don’t know what an actual leather toe stiffener is.
A separate piece of veg tan, made hard, to keep the same of the toe. Not the lining or the outer.
You seem to think an unstructured toe is a leather toe box.

>source
Their website, their mouth, their retailers words.

>Wesco
Foam in their anniversary boots
>Nicks Whites
Foam or whatever the squeak pads made from. At one point, whites tried cork.

>>17268077
They use cork now for

>> No.17268086

>>17268073
Like what way? Filler is needed because of a void caused by lasting. Not many construction out there have minimal void like the lining lasted stitchdown.

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>>17268057
>Dr sole wesco anniversary rebuild, looks it up yourself.
The filler is leather lmao.

>> No.17268092

>>17268073
What I am saying is what if Viberg uses filler? What would change if they did not? Filler is a plus, an addition. What harm does it cause?

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>>17268083
>an actual leather toe stiffener is
This toe has two layers of thick leather. It's essentially a full-leather toecap, only the cap extends all the way up to the tongue.
That's a leather toe stiffener.

>>source
>Their website, their mouth, their retailers words.
So post it.

>Foam in their anniversary boots
Source?

>> No.17268096

>>17268087
>no grain
>leather
Are you kidding me?

>> No.17268097

>>17268086
Hand welted typically has no gemming to cause a void, the welt channel is cut into the midsole. For instance.

>>17268092
Foam, cork, ... don't stay good as long as leather.

>> No.17268100

>>17268093
Okay. You really don’t know what a true leather toe stiffener is.
You are just describing a full toe cap with no toe stiffener. Different things

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>>17268096
It's leather.

>> No.17268105

>>17268093
You are very confused. You are describing the leather outer and the leather lining on a plain toe boots.

>> No.17268112

>>17268097
Handwelted still have a void from the holdfast and or lasted upper.
The carving is done on the insole, not midsole.

What good is a flimsy piece of thin leather when meet the weight?
Again that does not answer my question.
When other stitchdown makers dont use a filler and viberg does (an addition), why is that bad? Isnt the opposite should be true, not using filler as as cost cutting measure.

>> No.17268123

>Viberg, Wesco, Whites, Nicks do stitchdown that dont require filler.
>Viberg decided to add foam.
>Anything else is the same, nothing got replaced nor reduced
>Suddenly Viberg is bad for having one extra component over the others
What is this logic?

>> No.17268136

>>17268105
>>17268100
Those are two full leathers of 3mm work leather. It's halfway between chrome tan and veg tan.
It's at least 1/3rd thicker than typical leathers, and a tougher tanning.
The "liner" alone is thicker, stiffer leather than you'll find on Red Wings, Thursdays, etc.
Liner my ass lmao

Synthetic heel counters / toe stiffeners make a lot of sense over leather, both in terms of thickness and durability.
My point at the very beginning of this discussion was about the sole, yet here we are many hours later yapping about not the sole.

>> No.17268146

>>17268123
I never said Viberg was "bad", but your logic is shit lol
You're pretending that anything you add also inherently adds value.

>> No.17268151

>>17268136
Do you understand what a lining is?
Are you able to read that I wrote “lining”?
They have thick lining, yes. Does it change the fact that they are still lining? No.
Ask whites themselves on what would they call that part.

Synthetic counters stiffeners are uncomfortable and not replacable nor as good at molding and risk of cracking. You just dont know

Sure, leather sole is good. At that point, a Meermin is just as good as a Wesco.

>> No.17268155

>>17268146
But does it detract value? Im genuinely wondering what logical problem do people have with Viberg filler choice?

>> No.17268156

>>17268151
How is a lining different from a toe stiffener?

>Synthetic counters stiffeners are uncomfortable
Lol horseshit

>not replacable
lmao of course it is

>a Meermin is just as good as a Wesco
If you say so, I don't know the first thing about Meermin boot construction.

>>17268155
Foam is obviously not as hard-wearing as veg-tan leather.

>> No.17268165

>>17268156
>How is lining not stiffener
Actual retard here can’t tell 2 different parts
this is like saying how jacket lining is not canvas.

I have seen Meermin synthetic celastic hard counter cracked a piece out, and they are so stiff the edge is uncomfortably rubbing at your heel. The glue bond makes it so that ripping the counter out pretty much destroys the upper.

It’s good that you prefer leather sole. Good choice, but your standard is still low to go and diss synthetic while praising synthetic. Or just Wescoping, idk.

>> No.17268177

>>17268165
>Actual retard here can’t tell 2 different parts
Tell me.
How is a toe stiffener different from a toe liner?

>I have seen Meermin synthetic celastic hard counter cracked a piece out
Again, I have no idea how Meermin stacks up, but it sounds like it has inferior quality.

>they are so stiff the edge is uncomfortably rubbing at your heel
The leather heel liner is too thin if this happens AT ALL.

>> No.17268178

>>17268156
Yes, but not like the other makers use veg tan. They use nothing. While Viberg uses something. It is not as premium as if they were to use veg tan, but how is an addition of a component that do no harm bad or make it worse than other makers?

>> No.17268182

>>17268177
A toe stiffener is a separate piece of hard material that is insert between the lining and outer of the upper. It can be celastic, thermoplastic or hard veg tan leather.

The lining is an integral part of the upper that come into contact with your foot.

Why do I have to spell it out to you?

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>>17268178
>They use nothing.
They use two extremely thick layers of hard-tanned leather.

>While Viberg uses something
Viberg uses a flimsy toe stiffener, and a relatively thun upper leather.
See pic.

This boot: >>17268093
has a lot more toe structure than a Viberg.

>> No.17268188

>>17268177
How surprised most here would be to know that Meermin have leather insole, midsole (depends on the model) and heelstacks.

>> No.17268192

>>17268187
Pic?
They use nothing for the filler, please don’t misunderstand this for the misole or the shank build up.
And Im not talking about the celastic toe. Im talking about the filler.

>> No.17268193

>>17268182
>A toe stiffener is a separate piece of hard material that is insert between the lining and outer of the upper.
And what if the lining itself is thicker and stronger than a "toe stiffener"? See >>17268187

Does that not make the lining itself the "toe stiffener"?
Stop being this autistic.

>> No.17268194

>>17268192
I thought you were talking about the toe stiffener.

I'd rather have direct contact between the leather insole and the leather midsole.

>> No.17268196

>>17268187
>thin upper
+2mm CXL is thin?

That pic has less structured than the viberg, retard, it’s just lining and outer. Viberg is lining, outer, and the ping pong toe stiffener in between. The stiffener they chose is thin on purpose for the collapse soft toe look.
Mistake not leather thickness for structure.

>> No.17268201

>>17268196
>+2mm CXL is thin?
Compared to TWO layers of 3mm hard-tanned leather, yes.
Hence "relatively" thin.

>That pic has less structured than the viberg
So 2.5/3mm total leather thickness is thicker than 6mm leather?

>> No.17268209

>>17268193
The lining can be thicker but not stronger than the stiffener, retard. Do you know how bootmaking work? regardless of thickness in the toe by the lining and outer, the toe will inevitably collapse due to lasting tension.
That is why a separate piece of hard material has to be inserted in to keep the same.
Being this dumb, holy shit.
This is like saying why make a canvas for jacket, just get thicker lining.

>> No.17268212

>>17268201
Thickness is not structure, read this
>>17268209

>> No.17268217

>>17268194
Isn’t this a mental thing? The 2 pieces of sole still come together. i can’t imagine the foam being anything like a barrier.

>> No.17268230

were reaching audiophile levels of autism

>> No.17268261

>>17268230
These threads changed fairly recently to pure reddit bugman autism arguing about things like heel stiffeners and rows of stitching
They're just fucking boots. Just get what you think looks cool and can afford

>> No.17268295

>>17268230
its the nonwhite esl guy who posts "tr*nny heel" trying to detract from whites

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>green horsebutt
nice
>on dainite
not nice

>> No.17268321

>>17268295
honk honk

>> No.17268322

ayo does anyone know of a boot manufacturer that does custom fitted boots that dont cost an arm and a leg?
Or at the very least offers a range of what is known as 'combo' lasts, where the have a combination of sizes in the widths of the last that they use to make the boot on?
Reason i ask is that ive spend hundreds and hundreds over the last 10 years i would say , on shipping and on trying on different boots only to be disappointed with the fit.
My feet are a size 10.5 us(10uk) and im a standard D width in my ball, but my instep is a little narrow and my heel is a lot narrow, which means that really the only shoes that would fit me correctly are a size D in the ball and a size A in the heel, but 99% of all boot manufacturers today do not do sizing like that anymore, they do mass manufacturing as standard, unfortunately as it was once common for your average boot maker to actually have a huge catalog of shoes size lasts to make the boots on, and it would be easy for me to find a boot that fit, but today it seems to be almost vanished, and the one or two places that still do it charge a massive premium for what was once a standard service.
I know nicks boots and whites boots etc do combo lasts, but that means spending 600+ on a pair, i dont need invincible boots to take on the apocalypse with, just a pair that fucking fits lol

>> No.17268326

>>17268188
>midsole
Which models? MTO only?

>> No.17268337

>>17268322
>i want custom boots but for RTW/off the rack prices
i mean some indo/chinks might do it if you're willing to brave that gauntlet of ESL/whatsapp only communication

>I know nicks boots and whites boots etc do combo lasts
then do it
>just a pair that fucking fits
well thats the cost of your reality of having weird feet

alternatively you can wait 10-15 years until shoe manufacturers start 3D printing lasts to the customer's needs but that'll cost and arm and a leg too

tl;dr either accept your fate and cough up the money or wait and then cough up the money

>> No.17268355

>>17268209
>separate piece of hard material
So this >>17268187
is not a stiffener, got it.

>> No.17268357

>>17268212
>Thickness is not structure
Then what is?

>> No.17268359

>>17268326
Norvegese service boots or the wholecut chelsea

>> No.17268361

>>17268355
What part of that is not a separate hard piece of material retard? They deliberately chose a softer material for a softer toe look but not fully unstructured so you don't get toe creasing

>>17268357
Structure is structure moron. Read. Anything that is stiff and independent from the lasting tension.

Idiot bugman who does not know jack about boot.

>> No.17268366

>>17268193
Tell this to any cobblers or shoemakers and they will laugh your face off.

>> No.17268387

>>17268361
>What part of that is not a separate hard piece of material
It's not hard at all, and it's just as separate as the inner leather in here: >>17268093

>>17268366
So what's the difference between a tough layer of leather under the toebox upper and a tough layer of leather under the toebox upper?

>> No.17268390

>>17268361
>independent from the lasting tension
We're reaching entirely new depths of bullshit.

>> No.17268396

>>17268337
>3D printing lasts to the customer's needs
thats a cool concept, how would the customer scan their foot? like walk into a shoe store and have it scanned by a imaging device , and then save onto a usb tumbdrive and use that to email the boot maker?
thats the future right there, wow.

>> No.17268417

>>17268387
>>17268390
The entire upper is lasted into the insole. The stiffener is not, it is glued in. That is how it is not affected by the lasting tension. Bugman moron.

The ping pong stiffener Viberg uses is softer than the typical stiffener. That's how it helps the toebox get no creasing while allow for a minimal collapse but not total collapse. That is why they called it partially structured and why Brett is a genius.

>> No.17268425

>>17268390
How do you think the upper is in shape after lasting?

>> No.17268434

>>17268417
>The entire upper is lasted into the insole.
Not in the case of a stitchdown.

>The stiffener is not, it is glued in
With a GYW construction for instance, the stiffener is indeed lasted to the insole and stitched to it.

>lasting tension
You just made this up lol

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>>17268425
The stiffener is indeed under "lasting tension" with a GYW for instance.
Same with the heel counter stiffener in a stitchdown boot, pic related.

>> No.17268473

>>17268434
The lining is lasted in stitchdown.
The stiffener is fixed in mostly by glue. Being welted in is due to the base of it extending down to the rib. The stiffener needed to be lasted to shape but need not being fixed into the insole like the upper.
Go talk to a shoemaker.

>> No.17268485

>>17268473
>The lining is lasted in stitchdown.
Right. Not "the entire upper".

>The stiffener is fixed in mostly by glue.
Or it's stitched.

So your little "a stiffener cannot be lasted" narrative is completely bunk.

>> No.17268496

>>17268485
With the upper being stitched to the midsole like that, it is being pulled.
The stiffener is lasted for the initial shape, not lasted in constantly to keep shape. You pull the upper off and it will lose it shape, you pull the stiffener out, it is the same shape. Being stitched or nailed in is simply being there is a base margin for the lasting. You don't know bootmaking for shit.
Take your 2 layers of hard tanned wanks, compare it to a true veg tan toe stiffener and you will see how flaccid they compare to a true stiffener.

>> No.17268505

>>17268496
You have such confidence for someone who keeps saying things and then backpedaling them.

>> No.17268509
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>>17268496
>you pull the stiffener out, it is the same shape

>> No.17268515

>>17268509
That is some celastic lower rand, post the complete leather counter picture cunt. The album even commented on how well it kept it shape
Cherry picking this hard. Retard

>> No.17268516

>>17268505
You don't understand shits and cherry picking and coping so hard.
Literally like talking to a retard

>> No.17268538

>>17268516
>Wesco has foam filler!
>oh ok it's leather

>stiffeners are not under "lasting tension"!
>oh ok they are in many cases

>stiffeners are only glued!
>oh ok they're stitched

etc. etc.

>> No.17268542

>>17268538
nonwhites are retarded, who would have thought?

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>> No.17268638

>>17263491
>sneakerhead
boothead or booterhead ?

>> No.17268651
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Carmina has these as a GMTO going on

Waxy commander (any color)
Commando sole
360 storm welt
Oscar last
shoe trees free

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17268688

>its just one schizo arguing with himself

>> No.17268714

>>17268627

This color is ridiculously lovely.

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>>17268638
>>17268688
All me btw

>> No.17268739

>>17268638
bootchad

>> No.17268744

>>17268638
bootbrain
im bootbrained af

>> No.17268790

>>17268714
veg tan is able to produce "warm" colors that look full of soul instead of the souless chrome tans

>> No.17268854

>>17268651
Damn I should cancel my nigs tacticals for these but I’m scared of Carmina sizing since my rain last oxfords are fucked

>> No.17268909
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Halp

>> No.17268912

>>17268638
Welter

>> No.17268916

>>17268909
uhhhhh
horsehair brush and a little shoe cream. should buff right out...

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>>17268909
shits fucked

>> No.17268945

>>17268909
What did you do negro holy shit

>> No.17268957
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17268957

Can someone recommend me some stylish, comfortable and long lasting boots?

I'm a tattoo artist and I'm trying to upgrade my outfit. I'm going for a sort of rustic artist aesthetic. I live in the north where its winter 6 months out of the year.

Pic unrelated

>> No.17268960
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17268960

Can anyone rec me some /out/ boots that come in black? Bought a pair of Oakleys but they're too nice for wear and tear.

>> No.17268962

>>17268957
Whats your budget?

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>>17268945
jumped and hit them on a thing

>> No.17268967

>>17268965
Shit on him all you want, but that hair is FINE

>> No.17268981

>>17268960
>too nice

wait what? these are made of "ballistic" style nylon with minimal flashes of suede. definition of a beater.

>> No.17269005

>>17268909
over

>> No.17269009

>>17268909

What did your cobbler suggest when you showed it to them? I imagine glue and a patch behind it?

>> No.17269016

>>17268909
What the fuck, what kind of boots are those

>> No.17269017

>>17268957
WHITE'S

>> No.17269041

>>17268962
If they will last me 5+ years, $300-$400

>> No.17269056

>>17269041
What height? Ankel? Combat?

>> No.17269064

What exactly is antique calf and can I use VSC on it? I'm guessing I have to use neutral cream rather than colored

>> No.17269085

>>17264565
middle pic is pure kino

>> No.17269137

>>17269005
its smaller than the camera makes out
>>17269009
just noticed it so i haven't taken them to one yet but will shortly
>>17269016
corcoran

>> No.17269167

>>17268909
what is that white stuff? padding?

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>>17269041
>$300-$400
you're kidding right

>> No.17269214
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17269214

royalty

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17269224

>>17268909
thus is a boot thread people c'mon

>> No.17269226

>>17269224
he can't just glue it back together, it'll come apart the moment it flexes, shits fucked bigly

>> No.17269227

>>17269226
have you ever used shoe goo?

>> No.17269228

>>17269227
not to fix split leather

>> No.17269245

>>17269228
try it sometime

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>>17269245

>> No.17269283

>>17266525
STOP DISCUSSING FASHION ON THE FASHION BOARD

>> No.17269333

>>17269137
How did you fuck them up that bad

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17269336

>>17269224
Garbage, get something that's actually good

>> No.17269444

>>17268960
I hate the soles on this literally looks like styrofoam sucks cause it would be a great boot if it had different soles

>> No.17269453

>>17268960
try danner for /out/

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17269512

>>17264872
My boot rotation

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>> No.17269585

>>17266513
Looks ok

>> No.17269701
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17269701

What are the best looking modern desert boots in your opinion lads?

>> No.17269731

>>17269197
I dont know anything. I grew up in poverty and never had the money for anything nice, and now that I'm an artist I've got money I value too much to want to waste it.

I don't want to spend $700 on some boots that are going to shit the bed in 3 years

>>17269056
Maybe not combat, I want something casual I wont overheat in. I'm just trying to look good in a comfortable tattoo shop.

>> No.17269745

>>17269731
just get iron rangers

>> No.17269751

Can you guys recommend some boot brands or models that have flat soles? are good for rain, snow and sloshy like snow that develops in cities? must not look to bulky.

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17269761

>>17269701
These oakley also look good, to bad for that yeezy sneaker tier outsole style that I dislike, otherwise these are top tier.

>> No.17269768

>>17269731
don't reply to anime posters, they're autistic white's shills who think that the only boots you should buy are some clown looking working boots with meme specs that literally nobody cares about

>> No.17269836

>>17269768
thanks pal, noted

>>17269745
these look really nice and simple and are pretty close to what I was imagining. Are they reliable? Wont fall apart after a year?

>> No.17269857

>>17269836
>Are they reliable?
yeah. they're babbys first good boot and are made with a retard proof oil tan leather that you really cant fuck up
just dont get the new wedge sole ones because those have a synthetic insole instead of the leather

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>>17269731
So from the tattoo artists I‘ve seen you might like chukka boots like these from Crockett and Jones. They‘re above your budget but frankly will last you a lot longer that 3 years as long as you get them resoled every couple of years (depends on how much you walk in them). The resoling is a cost you ought to take into account.
You can also get these boots in a classier looking leather. Other than that chelsea boots might be a good choice.
If you don‘t wanna spend as much maybe (and don‘t tell anyone here I told you this) Doc Martens might be what you are looking for style and price wise. They‘re insanely popular here in germany with the artsy crowd

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So i posted previously that i'd gotten some boots soaking wet and they'd cracked, pic related...

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.... and here they are after my attempt to fix them.
Quite pleased with the result.

>> No.17270109

>>17270107
What did you do exactly, anon?

>> No.17270119

>>17270109
Just buffed the crack out with automotive sandpaper, conditioned it a lot in between sanding, and then repolished them.
The crack wasn't too deep but like... i could feel it easily if i ran a finger over it and it was quite visible

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