/boot/ general

[Anonymous No.17232222]

/boot/ - Boot General - Leg Day Edition

What do I need to care for my boots?
>Old cotton t shirt (one for cleaning, another for applying conditioners)
>Horsehair brush ($10-15)
>Wooden shoe trees ($10-15)
>Light conditioner like Lexol/Bck4
>Heavy conditioner (if you live in terrible snow/rain areas) Sno seal/Obernauf LP

How do I deal with x stain?
>mud: allow it to dry then brush off
>salt: water and cloth as soon as possible
>saturated wet: allow the boot to dry for a full day, stuff with newspaper
>scuffs and scratches: buff vigorously with horsehair brush

>Should I buy turdsdays/soloshits/doc shitans?
no
>b-b-but muh ecelebs on youtube said they're good
no. you will waste your time and money and still have uncomfortable footwear at the end of the day. spend the extra $100 and get something real.

PREV >>17226425

[Anonymous No.17232279]

first for DON'T BUY DOC SHARTENS, YOU PLEB

[Anonymous No.17232374]

>>17232279
I had the Original English Doc Martens and the tongue on my left foot ripped off after a nice day in the rain. Fucking sucked. They never "got more comfy as I broke them in" either. I was glad to throw them in a trashcan outside of my workplace.

[Anonymous No.17232375]

I don't know if custom wesco firestormer's are a good alternative to custom whites. There is no double midsole option, only two leather options, and just a few other things that kind of put me off not being able to choose. They do however have the option for semi lace to toe which I think looks neat, but not as customizable when it comes to height. I am entertaining the idea of buying lightly used smokejumpers since there are a few in my size length wise on ebay, I just have to measure for width.

[Anonymous No.17232386]

>>17232374
Hate to correct you, but what you actually had were the Original English Doc Shartens.

[Anonymous No.17232474]

What are some nice boots for someone who's never worn a pair?

All i have are sneakers and dress shoes so i figure i should get a nice "in between"

[Anonymous No.17232473]

I wish Viberg could sell in the EU without extreme taxation and customs.

[Anonymous No.17232482]

>>17232222
Is there any real reason to hate zippers on boots except "I don't like how they look"?

I don't own any boots with zippers, but I tried a pair on in a shop and I was tempted to get them just for it, putting them on and off is so quick, while usually just ramming my feet in my boots is a fucking chore

[Anonymous No.17232485]

>>17232474
Depends where you live and how much you want to spend

In the US you get all these chunky heavy duty "heritage" boots. Whites and Viberg make good looking boots, but even then some models just look dumb. Personally I think the best looking boot Americans have ever made is the Alden Indy.
In Europe you get dressier boots and they can be very expensive. In my opinion the best looking dressy boot is the Edward Green Galway (Dark Oak + Mink Suede combo) or the Gaziano & Girling Thorpe. But these are like 1500-2000€ a pair. Enzo Bonafe is well known for using shell cordovan very well (around 1300-1500€). Then there's C&J, Carmina, TLB etc for lower budgets.

[Anonymous No.17232497]

>>17232474
I’m admittedly biased but I generally recommend any Alden boot the TruBalance last in calf or suede. The most famous are the 403 and 405 Indy boots. They are pretty versatile and are considered by many to be one of the most comfortable boots after an easy break in.

[Anonymous No.17232507]

>>17232482
>leaks
>additional point of failure
>compromises the fit of the shaft

>>17232474
clarks desert boot, RW blacksmiths

[Anonymous No.17232510]

>>17232474
Go big or go home. Whites MP. Built like tanks but can be cleaned up and look better than Red Wings. And I say this as someone who owns Red Wings.

[Anonymous No.17232511]

>>17232222
where can i find austrian paramemes for cheap in france ? all other websites add like 20 bucks of shipping

[Anonymous No.17232514]

>>17232511
It’s 20 euro just pay for it or get French ranger boots

[Anonymous No.17232523]

I initially thought these were too light and looked like Timberlands but now that they're starting to darken and get more caramel colored I really like them.

[Anonymous No.17232613]

crepe soles should only be paired with moc toes

[Anonymous No.17232660]

>>17232474
partially seconding
>>17232507
a chukka is a an ok choice to slightly improve casual dress but I think astorflex looks better and I dont think they're much more expensive

>>17232523
wheat timbs are a lot more on the yellow side than that desu

[Anonymous No.17232665]

>>17232613
I've considered putting a wedge on my Blackmsiths when I resole them. Sounds comfy and I doubt people will notice when they're on my feet.

[Anonymous No.17232692]

is it considered bad manners to ask a shoemaker to resole shoes from a different brand?

[Anonymous No.17232699]

>>17232692
Yes they usually outright refuse and put you on a blacklist

[Anonymous No.17232731]

>>17232692
It's really tacky and most won't because why would they?
Just do to an independent cobbler/shoe repair place

[Anonymous No.17232743]

I get it. The welt is part of the brand identity for Trickers.
But I just do not like it those widebois.

[Anonymous No.17232756]

>>17232743
considering I like minimal, neat welts, that stuff looks really bad to me

[Anonymous No.17232768]

waywt

[Anonymous No.17232772]

>>17232743
Just sand them down

[Anonymous No.17232774]

>>17232768

[Anonymous No.17232777]

>i don't need new boots
>i have two perfectly good pair of Red Wings
>i looked at Whites MPs last night because I like them
>"eh I like them but they're too expensive"
>check GYW this morning
>they're selling them 20% off for a closeout
well shit

[Anonymous No.17232782]

Thoughts on Wesco?

[Anonymous No.17232788]

What is your most complimented pair of shoes?

[Anonymous No.17232792]

>>17232782
Great engineers, meh other offerings

>>17232788
Wesco boss in tan domaine

[Anonymous No.17232795]

>>17232756
>glued

[Anonymous No.17232798]

>>17232788
Whites MPs in cinnamon waxed flesh

[Anonymous No.17232799]

>>17232768
What is this double stitch thing?

[Anonymous No.17232806]

>>17232799
? It's Whites semi dress. The double row stitch is standard

[Anonymous No.17232821]

>>17232806
One stitch connects the sole to the welt, but what does the other do?

[Anonymous No.17232848]

>>17232821
additional row to for more security

[Anonymous No.17232888]

>>17232798
I was so close to getting a pair of these last year but ended up cheaping out and getting Red Wings instead. I like the RWs a lot but sometimes I wonder if it was the right move.

[Anonymous No.17232890]

>>17232821
Stitchdown consctruction

[Anonymous No.17232926]

>>17232821
one row to stitch the upper to the midsole. another row to stitch the midsole to the outsole

[Anonymous No.17232927]

>>17232788
Alden Indys or Whites MPs
i have never once gotten a compliment on my Iron Rangers

[Anonymous No.17232928]

>>17232788
a pair of dogshit Nunn Bush with plastic """leather""", a bit of weirdly placed brouging and an outsole that felt like foam
I wish that was a joke

[Anonymous No.17232930]

>>17232768
awful creasing on the shaft

[Anonymous No.17232933]

Can confirm Darn Tough Warranty is legit. I sent in 5 pairs of T4050s that developed holes after ~5 years of wear and got a $160 voucher. I honestly didn’t know their warranty was no questions asked and covered them. Glad I kept them as “beater” socks and didn’t toss them because now I have 5 pairs of new Darn Toughs.

[Anonymous No.17232940]

>>17232788
weirdest feeling is when I got my pair of TLB hatch grain norwegian split toe derbies, beveled super narrow waist, perfect stitching, overall a stunning shoe, and not one person has ever even noticed it

not even a "what the fuck is that"
nothing

[Anonymous No.17232979]

>>17232940
if you had bought patent leather mall shit they would have loved it

[Anonymous No.17233012]

What do you call this type of brogueing that seems to be flush with the rest of the upper?

My only brogue shoes are Allen Edmonds and the various leather pieces all stick out kinda badly from each other

[Anonymous No.17233015]

>>17233012
I meant the adelaide brogue around the laces, not the medallion at the toe

[Anonymous No.17233085]

>>17232795
Outsole is glued which is good, welt is gyw.

[Anonymous No.17233086]

>>17232930
the water buffalo does that

[Anonymous No.17233088]

>>17232222
>these bowlegged onions legs
JUST

[Anonymous No.17233148]

>>17232511
i'd recommend buying in forces uniform and kit. just pay the shipping price, it'd still be way cheaper than other shitty boots

[Anonymous No.17233161]

>>17232768
too hot for boots still here, though it's been raining a ton so i think i might wear some boots tomorrow. probably my Indys since they're my favorite boots

[Anonymous No.17233163]

>>17232777
do it brother, the MPs are the perfect boot

[Anonymous No.17233173]

Boots are the ultimate buy-once cry-once piece of clothing but I legitimately destitute right now. Canadian winter is coming and I will literally need to borrow money from a friend to be able to buy boots. I cannot afford Alden or Res Wing. Is there anything serviceable I can get for $200 CAD?

[Anonymous No.17233190]

>>17233173
used/factory second redwings

[Anonymous No.17233207]

>>17233163
What color are these? I was looking at the Natural CXL because of how it ages.

[Anonymous No.17233240]

>>17233207
Not sure whether to go brown or British tan. Danite or lug.

[Anonymous No.17233245]

>>17233240
Personally I've heard the lug isn't as hard as the Danite. Plus I think the lug fits the aesthetic of the boot better.

[Anonymous No.17233253]

>>17232222
Any recommendations for boots like these but with max 8 eyelets? And please don't suggest bulky clown boots like whites, rw etc

[Anonymous No.17233255]

>>17232222 (OP)
Any recommendations for boots like these but with max 8 eyelets? And please don't suggest bulky clown boots like whites, rw etc

[Anonymous No.17233267]

>>17233245
Really I was thinking that the famous fits the look better. I’d rather get the ranchers but I doubt they go on sale often

[Anonymous No.17233279]

Anyone know WTC these exact looking boots?

[Anonymous No.17233286]

>>17233279
Thursday

[Anonymous No.17233289]

>>17233286
It’s over

[Anonymous No.17233313]

>>17233163
How is the MP last size-wise? I wear in 8 in Red Wing Iron Ranger but according to the Whites site my foot measurement is a size 9, which sounds too big for a boot.

[Anonymous No.17233325]

>>17233163
lmao look at that welt. To think I actually thought my meermins had some poor craftmanship. Turns out premium american boots are worse than chinks

[Anonymous No.17233331]

>>17233286
thanks senpai. Another question, any boots that have really good outsole for grip on wet and dry surfaces. i had these Nike ones that they trash, kept loosing my footing during work.

[Anonymous No.17233336]

>>17233331
Those are called work boots, just look for a non slip outsole

[Anonymous No.17233335]

>>17233331
Im pretty sure thursday have those models with a lug sole, but I wouldnt bet on its grip. Otherwise just get boots with a good brand lug sole like vibram

[Anonymous No.17233339]

>>17233173
> $200 CAD?
second hand

[Anonymous No.17233370]

>>17232222
My boot rotation

[Anonymous No.17233378]

>>17233370
whats next?

[Anonymous No.17233379]

>>17233207
Those are brown oiled smooth, their workboot leather. I got it as a custom makeup through Bakers back in the day. Not sure how it works now if they still make boots through Bakers or what
>>17233313
Half size down from Brannock. I am 8.5D US (baby feet) and I take 8D in Whites MPs, also same size in Alden Indys and Iron Rangers
>>17233325
Yeah, the welt stitching is sloppy on them which is disappointing but purely an aesthetic thing that affects nothing but your eyes
The tongue is also stitched in crooked on the right boot which is annoying but again, nothing structural.
Whites is not immune to defects and they happen a lot. It's up to you to decide if the "risk" is worth it on $500+ boots

i own two pairs of MPs but I'm done with Whites as a brand. They keep raising the price over and over and over. I get it, inflation is killing people, but you are owned by a Japanese congolomerate with money to spare, you're not in danger as a company. Why the insane price raises?

[Anonymous No.17233384]

>>17233379
>Why the insane price raises?
because they can

[Anonymous No.17233385]

>>17233379
Thanks for the sizing advice. Pretty much everything I've read has told me to size them like IRs but i've heard they're more narrow.
>Whites is not immune to defects and they happen a lot
call it 'cope' or whatever but I feel like little defects are more common with Whites and kinda add to the charm. You can see little things that dont matter are off and that shows they're actually handmade

[Anonymous No.17233405]

>>17233384
>lets fuck over our client base, many of whom are firefighters and loggers who don't make a lot of money, just because we can

[Anonymous No.17233410]

>>17233385
it's not that they're a narrow boot, it's just IRs are wide as fuck

[Anonymous No.17233415]

>>17233173
second hand

[Anonymous No.17233416]

>>17233279
Don't buy Thursdays, Anon, they're shit.

[Anonymous No.17233417]

[Anonymous No.17233420]

>>17233405
It's called capitalism, bro. You aren't a commie, are you?

[Anonymous No.17233423]

>>17233420
>defending capitalism
let me guess, you're a future billionaire

[Anonymous No.17233425]

>>17233423
Would have been quicker just to write "yes", Anon.

[Anonymous No.17233426]

>>17233425
i'm neither but i'm not stupid enough to see that capitalism isn't your friend

[Anonymous No.17233428]

>>17233426
I think you have me confused with someone else, comrade.

[Anonymous No.17233429]

>>17233405
viberg quite literally did this and set the trend
ask them when they plan to make workboots again
you can use less material than making a workboot, less time and charge $200 more

[Anonymous No.17233431]

>>17233429
this fuck viberg

[Anonymous No.17233437]

>>17233429
if you cannot be the price leader you need some sort of product differentiation to be competitive. that's business 101
truman said "we can't compete with the more established names so we're gonna go crazy with the cool leathers and MTO options and give customers boots other brands don't offer". thursday said "we are gonna be the price leader and have the cheapest """"good"""" boots on the market" so they undercut other brands with their direct-to-consumer model. Viberg said "fuck you we're Viberg, if you want the 2030 last pay up or fuck off" and people are willing to pay for the 2030 because it's so iconic.
whites is losing that edge by getting rid of so many of their custom options and letting QC slip. what set them apart was they were a really good sturdy boot for 500 bucks
now they're a really strong sturdy boot with QC issues that costs as much as Nicks and Wesco, and Viberg looks better and more iconic for just a little more. If they keep raising prices but not improving QC, people will just leave. the firefighters and loggers have other options like Franks and other workboot only brands

whites is dying but so are all of them. people aren't going to keep buying boots and shoes if they cost 1k a pair, they'll go with brands like grant stone that cost 1/3 but are made in china

[Anonymous No.17233438]

>>17233437
fuck china

[Anonymous No.17233442]

>>17233438
no matter how mad you are it doesn't change that they're winning and there are a lot of really good boots coming out from there that rival what the american brands are making

[Anonymous No.17233445]

>>17233442
>destroy local industry by shipping it overseas
>taiwan war kicks off
>lol no domestic production womp womp

[Anonymous No.17233449]

>>17233445
good thing i wasn't poor a few years ago when prices weren't crazy and was in my boot consoomer phase and got like 5 pairs of boots i don't need
i should be set for a long time

[Anonymous No.17233457]

>>17233437
desu the issue is it costs too much to pay people to make gyw shoes while simultaneously people dont earn enough to buy gyw shoes

[Anonymous No.17233459]

>>17233457
also no one wants to make boots in a factory for 20 bucks an hour in a super expensive state like Washington when they can make 120k coding from home at a tech company

[Anonymous No.17233461]

>>17233457
Oh man who could have predicted that
If only someone had warned us a century and a half ago

[Anonymous No.17233463]

>>17233457
>people dont earn enough
>300 dollars a month door dash bill
>100 dollars streaming service bill
>200 dollars OF bill
i guaran fucking tee you the people who complain they don't make enough are just overspending

[Anonymous No.17233464]

>>17233463
thats some platinum level strawmanning

[Anonymous No.17233466]

>>17233437
I still think Whites sits comfortably in the middle of the price spectrum. It's a good step up from Red Wing for people that don't want to spend a mortgage payment on a pair of foot leather.

[Anonymous No.17233470]

>>17233464
>he took the obvious bait

[Anonymous No.17233475]

>>17233470

[Anonymous No.17233477]

>>17233464

[Anonymous No.17233522]

[Anonymous No.17233550]

>>17232222

Is it just me or do a lot of boots looks LARP tier

Especially a lot of dress boots and heritage work boots that ppl spend hundreds on despite having less modern tech than modern boots

[Anonymous No.17233553]

how retarded am i if i buy whites/nigs work boots to stand around in an office 12 hours per day

[Anonymous No.17233556]

>>17232806
No it's not

[Anonymous No.17233559]

>>17233255
good luck with these were only a limited production run from saint laurent based on french ranger army boots very hard to find now sucks cause they got a really good slim look to them

[Anonymous No.17233568]

>>17233553
I have MPs for the office and Nigs tacticals in the next few weeks, call me a larper idc

[Anonymous No.17233574]

>>17233568
i am strictly speaking of comfort. these people look at me kind of funny anyway.

[Anonymous No.17233590]

>>17233550
Nope it's just you, literally nobody else has ever said that ever.

[Anonymous No.17233593]

>>17233553
Not retarded if you like it. Fashion is fashion. Buy what you like.

[Anonymous No.17233599]

>>17233385
>Messy work
It’s just handmade bois, sucks it up.

[Anonymous No.17233604]

>>17233339
>>17233378
>>17233405
>>17233445
Is this the same retarded gifposter?

[Anonymous No.17233611]

RESOLING IS NOT DIY JESUS CHRIST

[Anonymous No.17233613]

>Overall, I’m really happy with how these boots turned out

[Anonymous No.17233620]

>>17233553
it'll be more comfortable than any cushiony shoe

[Anonymous No.17233623]

>>17233611
>resoling turdsdays

[Anonymous No.17233627]

>>17233611
>>17233613
I like how even people in that thread said "wow that looks like shit, congrats for really going for it"
GYW is a fun place to lurk. They're usually really knowledgeable about boot related stuff but some of them are...really something.

[Anonymous No.17233629]

>>17233553
Not retarded but Larping

[Anonymous No.17233649]

>>17233163
I think you're confused, the semi dress is far superior.

[Anonymous No.17233657]

>>17233426
Please enlighten us as to all the successful communist states. Those European countries you cum over are still capitalist.

[Anonymous No.17233689]

>>17233657
>enlighten us as to all the successful communist states
the state of anger you're in right now

[Anonymous No.17233695]

>>17233689
Uh huh, how's highschool going?

[Anonymous No.17233725]

Is there a shortlist or flowchart for boots that are just good quality? I have a rough idea of what I want, but as a /nofash/ loser every time I go search for what I want I get bombarded with international companies trying to sell designer brand paper bags to women for $5000.

[Anonymous No.17233736]

>>17233725
Whites/Wesco/Vibergs
power gap
everything else

[Anonymous No.17233750]

>>17233736
This

[Anonymous No.17233794]

Should I cop?

[Anonymous No.17233798]

Is there a way to know if the soles can handle wet and iced ground without getting overly slippery?

[Anonymous No.17233799]

>>17232222
Are the boots in OP pic RW Blacksmith?

[Anonymous No.17233808]

>>17233794
Balenciaga is for nigger cattle, do not waste your money.

[Anonymous No.17233814]

>>17233808
It's a well made product and I like the look, worry about your own money

[Anonymous No.17233831]

>well made product
lol

[Anonymous No.17233835]

>>17233689
pretty embarrassing to try a "lolumad" in response to a post like that desu

[Anonymous No.17233845]

>>17233798
typically softer rubber compounds perform better. dainite is an exception they are soft AND fucking terrible in wet weather

>>17233794
>

[Anonymous No.17233930]

>>17233559
I think you're right anon. Yeah just searched for a bit, impossible to find and impossible to find something similar from other brands. Everything else is just too bulky or overly dressy.

[Anonymous No.17233941]

>>17233930
I really don’t understand why boot manufacturers don’t just make replica’s of these they would sell like hotcakes

[Anonymous No.17233974]

Any reccs for jhodphurs in Europe around 300€? Preferably something not too pointy/heel/SLP.

[Anonymous No.17233989]

Why does the frequency of suede chelsea boots decrease as you go up in price. Are they just bound to be shitty quality compared to regular leather?

[Anonymous No.17234013]

>>17233989
because suede is a shity memesplit

[Anonymous No.17234057]

>>17233725

[Anonymous No.17234059]

>>17233974
Velasca (pic rel), meermin, shoepassion etc. Velasca is blake stitching instead of gyw though, not that it matters really.

also shopeassion has a 50% sale currently, not a lot of sizes left. A good deal considering their usual price is 400 eur.

[Anonymous No.17234061]

>>17234057
That chart is so retarded. Whites and rest of amerishit should be in casual shit-tier. Absolutely overpriced clow boots with very mediocre QC and details.

[Anonymous No.17234065]

>>17233794
it's very ugly and looks cheap, it's balenciaga all right

[Anonymous No.17234181]

Any experience with Camper? Looking for alternative to the doc 1461 in similar price range (under 160 euro).

[Anonymous No.17234189]

>>17234181
those are 1) not boots and 2) shit

[Anonymous No.17234201]

>>17234189
It might be slight off topic but people often ask here about derbies/non-boots.

[Anonymous No.17234204]

>>17234189
Eh I think we can talk about leather shoes also

[Anonymous No.17234212]

>>17234061
it's also really outdated. chippewa doesnt even make the shity service boot anymore

[Anonymous No.17234214]

>>17234181
what is with you people and the thick sole meme. it looks like shit and the trend will not last

[Anonymous No.17234217]

>>17234212
Yeah it was already old when I saved it. Still pretty accurate

[Anonymous No.17234224]

>>17234214
>trend will not last
How old are the 1461? And they are still popular.

[Anonymous No.17234225]

>>17234059
>also shopeassion has a 50% sale currently
Yeah they're out of my size.

Thanks for the reccs. What's the general opinion on Story et fall and Yanko/Skolyx?

[Anonymous No.17234230]

>>17234214
manlets

[Anonymous No.17234244]

>>17234057
Damn this is actually a pretty good pic

[Anonymous No.17234246]

>>17234061
Bro you might want to wipe your tears and stop crying before making more posts. Seething yuropiss who can't afford good boots
Embarrassing

[Anonymous No.17234255]

>>17234224
they still look like shit and are reserved for lesbians

[Anonymous No.17234261]

>>17234244
t. whitesshill
theres no reason all the pnw boots arent in 1 spot given thier incestuous heritage. you can tell a whitesshill made it because they inexplicably put whites a spot higher

[Anonymous No.17234262]

>>17234225
>Story et fall

Thought you said you didn't want pointy overpriced boots?

>>17234246
Seething american that wastes 600$ to look like he just escaped from a circus with an half assed pair of boots. Saddest part is you probably think you look good with your larp shoes.

[Anonymous No.17234264]

>>17234201
>>17234204
Me too, which is why I mentioned point 2.

[Anonymous No.17234269]

>Dayton
>Wesco

Anyone else making grey service boots available in wide?

[Anonymous No.17234273]

>>17234261
I think when it was made Nicks and the other small PNW bootmakers were new to the game.

[Anonymous No.17234288]

>>17233974
Berwick or Herring shoes

[Anonymous No.17234292]

>>17234261
>incestuous heritage
based

PNWtards act like they are so different when being just derivatives of White's

[Anonymous No.17234298]

>>17234292
It seems their whole selling point is "we're Whites but cheaper and from a smaller company". Which I'm cool with. But they definitely seem to all make the same boots at the same quality.

[Anonymous No.17234302]

>>17234262
>Thought you said you didn't want pointy overpriced boots?
Their jhodpurs are at 345 and seem less pointy than their other pseudo slp models, but if they're shit they're shit. I heard meermin quality took a dip when they moved production to China.

[Anonymous No.17234307]

>>17234273
It was made in the 70s?

[Anonymous No.17234309]

>>17234298
Nobody else does the type of welt White's uses. Nick's used to but realized it's more difficult and takes longer and they're really moving away from custom boots and towards pumping out standard makeups so they will not do it anymore. I'm not sure about Frank's I haven't asked.

[Anonymous No.17234316]

>>17234302
I have a pair of chinese meermin chelsea, they have some qc issues but overrall I can't really complain for the price. You can also check Scarosso btw

[Anonymous No.17234318]

>>17234307
I thought it was newer than that desu
>>17234309
I feel like Nicks are more utilitarian looking and Whites does better when it comes to dressier/fashion boots, as well as making durable work boots

[Anonymous No.17234325]

>>17234262
Post boots sad little bitch

[Anonymous No.17234328]

>>17234269
Dayton is shit since a couple years back. They went from being a Viberg competitor at a lower price to a joke that is barely in business anymore

[Anonymous No.17234330]

>>17234273
Not to mention Truman was still based out of Boulder Colorado sucking dick to pay for labor and rent
They only moved to Oregon recently and it's been a good move for them

[Anonymous No.17234338]

>>17234328
Perhaps that's why I'm asking for alternatives.

[Anonymous No.17234342]

>>17234269
truman
txture mto

[Anonymous No.17234355]

>nonwhites seething about whites
el oh el

[Anonymous No.17234362]

>>17234355
You hate to see it

[Anonymous No.17234365]

>>17234214
>>17234224

Pretty sure Paraboot originated the thick sole look and everyone else copied it. They use a Norwegian welt hence the chunky welt and thick sole.

[Anonymous No.17234370]

>>17232940
>dressing for other people
>being sad that plebs don't notice your good items/fits
You were doomed from the start boy

[Anonymous No.17234382]

Do you guys know any boot that is remotely similar to this? I'm searching for some casual tan lace ups, and I don't want timbs clones or actual military boots.

[Anonymous No.17234399]

>>17234382
Division Road C&J collab

[Anonymous No.17234406]

>>17234399
Anon, they look good, but I can't really afford 700+ boots. Are there budget alternatives?

[Anonymous No.17234409]

>Be Americuck
>The only decent footwear on the market is larpy laborer workboots
>No well made dress boots

Seething at European overlords

[Anonymous No.17234412]

>>17234406
>Are there budget alternatives?
Stop being poor

[Anonymous No.17234415]

>>17234409
Are you retarded or have you never heard of Alden?

[Anonymous No.17234417]

>>17234412
Ok let me rephrase it: I'm not poor but I don't want to spend 700+ for a pair of fucking boots

[Anonymous No.17234418]

>>17234409
Most of those 'larpy' brands make a solid dress boot as well

[Anonymous No.17234423]

>>17234415
>poor QC lately
>pretty much on the same level of AE pre 2010 in term of build
>charging extra, and more every year because muh heritage
>Thinking alden is well made

Retards who don't own more than 2 brands

[Anonymous No.17234426]

>>17234418
>semi "dress"
clown
>MP Barrie
actual potato
Because any mutts try to claim Viberg,they are Canadian.

[Anonymous No.17234427]

So I have a couple pairs of boots for cooler weather and some sneaker-type shoes (chucks, club cs) for wearing with shorts. I'm looking for something in the middle: a casual leather shoe that isn't 'dressy' like a pair of derbies but look nicer than a pair of dingy white sneakers, while also being versatile enough to wear with shorts or pants.
Last year I almost bought a pair of suede Quoddy Bluchers but the more I look at them the more I prefer the look of a camp moc. Who makes the best camp moc? I'm interested in Quoddy and Rancourt but I'm open to other suggestions.

[Anonymous No.17234430]

>>17234418
So true

[Anonymous No.17234436]

>>17234430
honk honk

[Anonymous No.17234440]

>>17234430
lmao

[Anonymous No.17234446]

I just received these and I am torn

They are absolutely beautiful in real life, my first pair of shell cordovan shoes
But I have a suspicion they are a touch too small, and there is no larger size available

I tried them on at the end of the day, after wearing a pair of tight fitting oxfords all day at work. My most uncomfortable shoes.
Maybe my feet are swollen, but I feel the boots are just a tiny bit too short.

[Anonymous No.17234451]

>>17234446
Shoes don't stretch a lot, especially cordovan. Cut your losses.

[Anonymous No.17234452]

>>17234423
Post your Aldens. While you're at it post your Whites
Actually just post whatever boots you own. Put up or shut up, cuck. We're getting tired of you

[Anonymous No.17234458]

>>17234409
this but unironically

>>17234452
why would he post boots he clearly (and rightfully) hates? You can see how whites are shit just by the pictures posted in these threads. >>17233163 look at that bulky clown shape and fucked up welt.

[Anonymous No.17234459]

>>17234451
I know, shoes cannot stretch lengthwise.

I got the 9.5UK which is my normal size.
I feel like 10UK would probably do it, but it is not available.
Instead, 10.5UK is available. But going a full size up is just too much.

Alternatively I could ask for an MTO but that's a whole other animal and 4 months too late.

[Anonymous No.17234467]

>>17234452
seethe mutt is mad that American can't make a decent dress shoes anymore. This is why Andrew ran to Spanish factory.

[Anonymous No.17234475]

>>17234318
>I feel like Nicks are more utilitarian looking
desu Nick's doesnt do fashion boots. the best you'll get is a workboot on a flat sole

[Anonymous No.17234477]

>>17234406
wait for parkhurst to MAYBE set loose the gaucho moose once again

[Anonymous No.17234484]

>>17234406
of course not

[Anonymous No.17234485]

>>17234467
>>17234458
Kek you have made up your mind that I am somehow mad. Why would I be mad? I like my boots, and I have a decent job because I'm not a Yuropoor or turd worlder so I can afford these boots if I want
You reply to every single post with the exact same thing. Yet you neither own boots nor can you afford the ones you attack
Go ahead and reply to this post like the little crybaby yurocuck you are. I know you will, monkey
I'm filtering you anyway

[Anonymous No.17234486]

>>17234417
>I'm not poor
>but
yes, yes you are

[Anonymous No.17234487]

>>17234427
yuketen makes some interesting offerings

>>17234452
they won't cause they're just here as antiwhite posters

[Anonymous No.17234492]

>>17234417
>I'm not poor but
Yes you are. Thursday it is then

[Anonymous No.17234493]

>>17234485
> I am not mad, but look at me furiously typing rant about my larping life

K fren, stay mad

[Anonymous No.17234499]

>>17234493
I will, in my Whites and Aldens
And you'll still be here with no boots crying about it
Stay mad

[Anonymous No.17234507]

>>17234499
you're the only Alden owner I've seen not spend 10mins shitting on his boots then proclaim them his favorites desu

[Anonymous No.17234508]

>>17234499
>Clown shoes and overpriced hype shoes

Damn it feels good to get affordable yet well made dress shoes over here.

[Anonymous No.17234518]

>>17234507
I love my Aldens and will probably get another pair. Probably their cap toe boot

[Anonymous No.17234519]

what's the point of speed hooks?
they just seem annoying to me

[Anonymous No.17234520]

>>17234508
>dress shoes
Huh, I thought I was in the boot thread for a second. It appears that after getting BTFO you have randomly started talking about dress shoes

[Anonymous No.17234525]

>>17234519
they actuall make putting on the boots really easy and taking it off even easier. I still dont like them though

[Anonymous No.17234529]

>>17234520
>boots are not shoes
Okay lol. Keep detracting.

[Anonymous No.17234531]

>>17234529
boots are indeed not dress shoes you fucking retard

[Anonymous No.17234534]

>>17234423
Alden QC was a temporary issue like 7-10 years ago while they trained up new workers since most of the experience died or retired. At one point there was only one old lady hand stitching NSTs and the shell moc toes. I have seen barely any issues on the regular models since then and all special make ups have been perfect. Pre-orders are taking up to 2 years in some cases (mostly due to the rona) but they’re QC has returned back to normal based on my experience.

[Anonymous No.17234535]

>>17234531
>dress boots are not a thing

comprehende?

[Anonymous No.17234542]

>>17234485

[Anonymous No.17234567]

>poor
>yuropiss
>doesn't own boots
>can't afford good ones
>cries about it all day on a Japanese anime image board to people who aren't poor and do own boots
>says "I'm not mad, you are"
>changes the topic from boots to dress shoes when he starts to lose
>makes up nonsense shit like "cork is bad" and "tranny heel"
>forces them over and over and no one cares, doesn't stick
But most importantly
>isn't white

Stay mad, faggot. Go ahead and reply like you always do

[Anonymous No.17234570]

Do you ever go up half a size for boots in order to wear thicker socks?

[Anonymous No.17234572]

>>17234570
but what happens when you can't wear thicker socks?

[Anonymous No.17234574]

>>17234534
Anon, my first Indys had the worst welt stitching you've ever seen as well as a big chunk out of the (fiberboard) heel stack. I opened the box, took one look, laughed out loud and sent them back
The replacement pair has a groomed tongue and missed stitches where they sewed in the lining around the shaft
Alden is still struggling because all their workers are getting old and dying and no one wants to make shoes for 20 bucks an hour in one of the most expensive states in the country to live in

[Anonymous No.17234578]

>>17234572
If it's too warm you do not wear boots, simple

Unless you guys wear boots in summer? There's no way right?

[Anonymous No.17234580]

>>17234578
>not wearing boots 365 days

[Anonymous No.17234581]

>>17234065
Cope poorfag

[Anonymous No.17234591]

[Anonymous No.17234599]

What is everyones favorite brown boots to wear with blue jeans? Should I just get redwings and call it a day?

[Anonymous No.17234600]

>>17234580
A user with a very sweaty ass and ballsack typed this post

[Anonymous No.17234602]

>>17234567
cringe

[Anonymous No.17234607]

>>17234446
The more I look at them the more gutted I feel
I feel if just send them back and refund I will not be satisfied until I've placed an MTO for size 10
Alternatively, I order the 10.5 which is ready to wear and just commit to wearing merino socks with them.

[Anonymous No.17234613]

>>17234567
Imagine being this mad.

[Anonymous No.17234614]

>>17234607
>Alternatively, I order the 10.5 which is ready to wear and just commit to wearing merino socks with them.
bruh don't get the wrong size just because you're impatient

[Anonymous No.17234616]

>>17234567
It's like you are coping for your country lack of ability to do any good looking decent boots.

[Anonymous No.17234621]

>>17234614
You're right
But even if I order now it takes 4 months, by then winter is basically over

Still, I might do it. Apart from length these boots felt really good for me in terms of fit. That's what makes it even more sad.

[Anonymous No.17234626]

Last - 602M

Aimed at balance with a focus on more natural support, this last is the modified (M) version of our 602 last. The modifications include a small addition of width in the pinky toe area along with a slight addition of depth in the vamp and toebox.

I refuse to believe Andrew doesnt lurk and didnt see my diagram
heel counters are now leather and shanks are now steel

[Anonymous No.17234642]

>>17234626
Only possible because they are not made in the US anymore.

[Anonymous No.17234647]

siszing advice also seems to have changed from ttsto size down. I'd say that might work for the 602m but is still a gamble with the regular 602
>>17234642
based then

[Anonymous No.17234656]

>>17234181
Seconding this question, but with a less chunky look

[Anonymous No.17234681]

>>17234574
When was this and I’m assuming you ordered them from The Shoe Mart? I’m not denying qc issues since petty much every manufacturer has them to some degree, due to labor issues like you stated, but from what I’ve seen they have improved and are on the same level as C&J Benchgrade (which I have had qc issues with before as well).

[Anonymous No.17234684]

>>17234574
got pics?

[Anonymous No.17234690]

Is going 1/2 size down from your brannock size a good rule of thumb for boots/dress shoes?

[Anonymous No.17234691]

>>17234690
depends on the manufacturer

[Anonymous No.17234726]

[Anonymous No.17234733]

>>17234691
What’s the lowest/highest you’ve deviated from your brannock size?

[Anonymous No.17234735]

>>17234726
In my experience, shoes without a captoe end up looking really bad down the line. Especially with no captoe + unstructured toe, that's just asking for trouble.
It's even worse with shell cordovan, without a captoe piece it develops those ugly black pimples as it is stretched over the toe during lasting. I think some makers will warn you to back the fuck off if you try to order such a thing.

[Anonymous No.17234741]

>>17234642
I legitimately don't understand why you think you're so funny and clever
He makes them in Spain because labor is cheaper, that's it. He's increasing his profit by making them more cheaply but charging the same

[Anonymous No.17234746]

>>17234684
This was the welt one of the boots. Just amateur shit

[Anonymous No.17234750]

>>17234746
And here was the welt on the other boot. They broke the stitch and restarted about 3 times which is amateur shit as well since a good person can do it in one pass

[Anonymous No.17234753]

>>17234750
What I think happened was the bobbin of thread ran out halfway through the stitching but they started up again in a different spot and with different thread kek

[Anonymous No.17234758]

>>17234753
And here was the heel they fucked up and just filled with something. It's not even real leather, are they so cheap they couldn't just use a new piece of fiberboard?

Alden has issues, big time. My replacement pair had issues too that I debated returning them down but decided they were insignificant enough to keep. But Alden needs to get their shit together

[Anonymous No.17234760]

>>17234681
Yeah it was from The Shoe Mart kek
They have dogshit inventory but their return policy is the best

[Anonymous No.17234764]

>>17234741
t. seethe

American can't make boots without fucking up. Cope harder lol lol.

[Anonymous No.17234767]

>>17234764
>look mom I sure showed him

[Anonymous No.17234768]

>>17234758
Peak american manufacturing.

[Anonymous No.17234769]

>>17234760
They are one of the few retailers that also sells Alden seconds and the majority of the qc issues I’ve heard about originated from them. I’m guessing they mix them up quite often. I would suggest if you’re not happy with them to return them and buy instead from one of the smaller distributors like Brick + Mortar, Leffot, Alden of Carmel, Ealdwine. They seem do a better job of checking qc before they ship them out.

[Anonymous No.17234774]

>>17234769
I should have I just didn't know any better at the time. But yeah The Shoe Mart is pretty bad. Like I said, amazing customer service and return policy though

[Anonymous No.17234775]

>>17234758
>>17234499

American wagecuck cucks himself further by wasting his hard earn cockslurping cash on this.

I almost feel bad.

[Anonymous No.17234777]

>>17234767
Where is your mom anon? Rotted to death because no healthcare?

[Anonymous No.17234779]

>>17234775
I returned those, dumbass

[Anonymous No.17234781]

>>17234779
quoted your picture, not directing that at you.

[Anonymous No.17234808]

>>17234591
sex

[Anonymous No.17234814]

>>17234591
Damn that's clean
What boots?

[Anonymous No.17234815]

>>17234814
whites of course

[Anonymous No.17234817]

>>17234815
Anti-whites shitter on suicide watch

[Anonymous No.17234819]

>>17234817
rot in hell, cumskin boot lover

[Anonymous No.17234822]

>>17234406
>>17234382
Just get the Timbs then

[Anonymous No.17234828]

So, y'all ready?

[Anonymous No.17234835]

Just got these boots in the mail. They've got this stain on them that looks like something dripped on them and removed some of the color from the leather. Should I return them? Or do you think it'll blend in after a while with some wear?

[Anonymous No.17234837]

>>17234835

[Anonymous No.17234839]

>>17234837
how do they look from arms length away?

[Anonymous No.17234841]

>>17234835
>>17234837
I'd dab some conditioner and pretend I didnt see it desu
I suppose if you really wanted to you could

[Anonymous No.17234844]

>>17234828
well they cost less than a third of the price of whites for about the same quality control. And they both have the manlet giga heel americans love so much

[Anonymous No.17234845]

>>17234835
keep in mind that nobody except you will notice it, but if it really bothers you you can return them

[Anonymous No.17234860]

>>17234844
please huff tanning solution bruv
you're worse than whitesshill

[Anonymous No.17234866]

>>17234860
can't disprove a single fact of what I've said, stay seething

[Anonymous No.17234869]

>>17234841
>>17234845
You guys are right. I'm just gonna keep them. The process of shipping them back and replacing them is deterrent enough.

[Anonymous No.17234873]

>>17234835
>>17234837
Wear them once and that spot will be the last thing you worry about. They're boots, they're gonna crease and get scratched
A small stain is pretty insignificant

[Anonymous No.17234874]

>>17234860
>>17234866
Friendly reminder not to feed the troll because the one in these threads is hungry

[Anonymous No.17234938]

>>17234844
>for about the same quality control
>the manlet giga heel americans love so much
>t.
seethe harder bitch nigga

[Anonymous No.17234958]

INDYBROS BTFO
fakeindybros winning
bringbackblackbros winning

[Anonymous No.17234960]

if your size is 9.5 you missed it
desu if your size is 9.5 check the site often

[Anonymous No.17234962]

So Thursday just makes knockoffs?

[Anonymous No.17234963]

cute boot desu
seems like theyre now lined

[Anonymous No.17234971]

$420 normally though with the plain toe at $400
sucks if you wanted parkhursts as the cheap option but not mush is cheaper nowadays

[Anonymous No.17235028]

>>17233255
>>17233930
why has no one remade this boot WHY

[Anonymous No.17235045]

>>17234417
lmao

[Anonymous No.17235047]

>>17234427
sounds like you want some loafers, mate. I'd recommend a pair of brown penny loafers, nothing too gloss.

[Anonymous No.17235050]

>>17234459
You'll never be able to wear this pair. Bite the bullet and get some 10s MTO.

[Anonymous No.17235053]

>>17235047
Honestly I find pennys to be a bit too preppy for my taste. That's why I was looking at mocs. I have some LL Bean mocs I like the look of but they're too small and hurt my feet. So I was thinking of replacing them with a nicer pair that actually fit.

[Anonymous No.17235055]

>>17234485
>>17234567
absolutely seething lol

[Anonymous No.17235066]

>>17234962
They make perfectly fine boots for the price they charge. Autists here simply want you to spend twice as much for 1.3 times better product

[Anonymous No.17235067]

[Anonymous No.17235068]

>>17234318
Nick's split off in the 60s or 70s. The White's welt is actually more durable because it has an extra layer of leather on the outside that help keep water out and protects the stitching. It's also more difficult to do which is why Nick's stopped offering it on their boots.

[Anonymous No.17235071]

>>17235066
>want you to spend twice as much for 1.3 times better product
lets see your math

[Anonymous No.17235082]

>>17235053
yeah mocs would do it, good choice.

[Anonymous No.17235089]

[Anonymous No.17235096]

Digging my new Iron Rangers

[Anonymous No.17235118]

[Anonymous No.17235152]

>>17234963
>>17234971
did he send out an email about these? i have not been getting emails but i signed up for them
i can't find on the site where the actual link to sign up is

[Anonymous No.17235155]

Are Blundstones looked down upon here? They seem fine, just normie tier

[Anonymous No.17235156]

>>17235152
no emails
these are all pre production samples and only exist as single pairs in 9.5. they go up randomly on the seconds page. there was a pair of chelseas earlier >>17234626 that are gone now so it seems like it gets updated multiple times per day

[Anonymous No.17235162]

>>17235155
They're like Docs. Normie shit and you can spend more money to buy a nicer version, but if you don't care about nice boots you won't want for more and they'll look fine.

[Anonymous No.17235178]

>>17235156
he doesn't send out an email to subscribers about these samples and seconds? you just gotta be checking the page every day?

[Anonymous No.17235181]

>>17235178
Yeah wtf is up with that, Andrew

[Anonymous No.17235195]

>>17235178
>>17235181
would be borderline nuisance mail
you would have gotten 2 emails today over 3 pairs of boots in what is very likely not your size

[Anonymous No.17235206]

>>17235155
they're just standard shitty boots mate

[Anonymous No.17235209]

>>17235181
however made this image needs to look up what a frown is

[Anonymous No.17235288]

>>17232788
my blundstones

[Anonymous No.17235319]

>>17235089
>I own a boat but the deck is always muddy

[Anonymous No.17235427]

>>17235288
stop lying, bruce

[Anonymous No.17235529]

>>17234446
In what way are they too short? Is your big toe bumping up against the front of the boot?

[Anonymous No.17235818]

Mark Albert boots is closing, don't know if any anons here owned boots by them
Covid fucked the supply chain and the owner decided it was no longer worth it. He does tattoos full-time now

[Anonymous No.17235821]

>>17232222
Is it absolutely ridiculous to wear boots like these casually?

[Anonymous No.17235824]

>check Red Wing american website
>most Blacksmith styles aren't there
>only one style is there
>all sizes are sold out
is this the end of the road for the blacksmith?

[Anonymous No.17235828]

>>17235824
Red Wing hasn't had boots for sale on their site in a very long time
Inexplicably they have to rejected e-commerce and decided to not sell things online
If you want RWs you need to go to a shop in person

[Anonymous No.17235906]

>>17234607
With boots it's always better half a size bigger than the opposite. That said if you're sure the 10 is the perfect size, it's better to wait for that

[Anonymous No.17235954]

>>17235529
Just standing still, my pinky touches the front. But that happens on some shoes with a taper anyway.
If I shift just a hair (with the laces tight), 3 toes touch the front.
If I take a step, my big toe touches the front.

[Anonymous No.17235972]

>>17235906
>With boots it's always better half a size bigger than the opposite
Don't listen to this faggot. It's not as clear cut as this

[Anonymous No.17235981]

>>17235972
It's exactly like that. A short boot will NEVER fit, the sole will never magically lengthen. The leather might break in a bit width wise, but if the boot is short- well bad news, it will never fit. A bigger boot is much more manageable. You can wear thicker socks, put insoles or even both. Not to mention the more you walk the more your foot swell up. So basically I'm right and you're the faggot.

[Anonymous No.17235983]

>>17235824
>>17235828
apparently RW had a big breach in cybersecurity so they straight up stopped selling online for a long time

>>17235954
yeah shit's fucked bruh

[Anonymous No.17236003]

>>17235981
mine do the opposite

[Anonymous No.17236017]

I bought these boots from britboot three years ago. They Loakes brouge boots 6 eyelets. Since then I've treated them with mink oil, though I'm not sure if it really did anything. They look like docs but brouged.

[Anonymous No.17236101]

One last photo before I put them in the box and send them back.

It's indoors at night so not a great photo, the colors in real life are insane especially in sunlight.

[Anonymous No.17236109]

>>17236101
colour 8 is something else

[Anonymous No.17236145]

FRESH
>>17236140

FRESH
>>17236140

FRESH
>>17236140

[Anonymous No.17236253]

>>17235981
Yes but most boots run large and if it's too large your feet move around and get heel slip
It's a balance