Fragrance General #787

[Anonymous No.17085516]

Discontinued Thread >>17082011

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W2C bottles
(USA-Canada)
http://www.fragrancenet.com
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http://www.notino.com (see directory at bottom for your country)
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General info
http://perfumesociety.org/discover-perfume/an-introduction/
https://nstperfume.com/2008/11/14/new-to-perfume-and-want-to-learn-more/
https://www.basenotes.net/features/3243-the-top-ten-niche-fragrances-every-beginner-should-sample
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Various fragrance communities/review sites/blogs
http://www.fragrantica.com/
http://www.basenotes.net/
http://www.parfumo.net/
http://www.nstperfume.com/
http://www.boisdejasmin.com/
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W2C samples
http://www.luckyscent.com/
http://www.theperfumedcourt.com/
https://www.fragrantworldshop.com/
http://www.surrendertochance.com/
http://www.perfumista.co.uk/
http://www.ausliebezumduft.de/fragrances.html
https://www.jovoyparis.uk/
https://www.lessenteurs.com/
https://bloomperfume.co.uk/
https://lulua.pl/en/
https://moodscentbar.com/en/
https://ecuacionnatural.com/
https://essenza-nobile.de/
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On DIY fragrances
http://www.perfumersapprentice.com/
https://pellwall.com/
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Affordable snice scents
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For /ourguy/ Luca Turin's books look up Library Genesis
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[Anonymous No.17085518]

>>17085516
The new Fragrance Groups 101 chart

[Anonymous No.17085519]

>>17085516
The fragrance flowchart for beginners.

[Anonymous No.17085531]

Reposting from last thread, which are the niche brands with the most interesting offerings that are actually wearable and not just weird garbage?

[Anonymous No.17085532]

Cremo Palo Santo is bretty good, now I'm waiting on a bottle of Dunhill Fresh. I'll probably need another bottle of BI by October at this rate too

[Anonymous No.17085534]

>>17085526
Just get fucking BI and thank me later
>inb4 shill

[Anonymous No.17085535]

>>17085450
My full bottle of Memoirs came with a free sample of that, that shit was straight up vile.

>>17085534
For anyone in general:
Sample Bois Imperial first. It's really not that good.

[Anonymous No.17085540]

>>17085534
Not gonna blind buy the latest meme instead of one of the three most typical compliment getters everyone agrees on
I guess in the end Fierce really is the original though so there's probably no reason to buy Percival, Legend or one of the other similar ones since the bottom line is just "it's Fierce but slightly different, not better just different"

[Anonymous No.17085544]

>>17085531
>Reposting from last thread
This
https://www.luckyscent.com/product/867014/fiona-by-tsvga-parfums
B683
Vert from clandestine laboratories
https://www.etsy.com/listing/1084364875/kasturi-qadeem-cambodhi-oud-deer-musk

[Anonymous No.17085550]

>>17085531
Nicolai

[Anonymous No.17085554]

>>17085540
If you are within shipping range you can get a sampler kit from Essential Parfums for a reasonable price. I think they even discount the full bottle afterwards if you decide to buy one.
I bought the 10 mL of BI and regretted it, should have gotten the sampler. Lesson learned, infinite sampling it is.

[Anonymous No.17085570]

>*is the worst Creed in your path*

[Anonymous No.17085576]

>>17085516

Having invested in most of the Bogart bois, I’m going to rate them:

>OMS Oud Edition

I bought three OMS flankers in a lot, and this is the one had had most reservations about. But the one that most surprised me.

Beautiful woody spice, I don’t get the hysteria about it on Fragrantica. If this is what Portuguese whorehouses smell like, I want a ticket. 10/10 favorite of the bunch.

>OMS Gold

I was weirded out by this frag at first, but there is something about it that is utterly wrong but utterly right. A deep, spiced muskiness that I initially thought was like Aramis on roids.

Again, the fragrantica reviews dramatically exaggerated it. It seems a very good, if unusual scent. My only complaint being that the spray is slightly less powerful than the splash on tester. 9/10

>OMS OG

I was expecting a little more than pine needles. But that’s what I got, pine. It’s not as strong as it’s children, per se, but it’s not bad either. I think this is more versatile and easily wearable compared to the others.

Like a fresher, piney Encre Noire in a way. 7/10.

>OMS Ruby

The biggest disappointment of the bunch. I expected comparatively more from it, but what I got was an odd middle child between Gold and Oud.

That being said, I think it would serve well as a wintery date/club kind of fragrance. It fails not because it’s awful, but because it doesn’t shine as much as the others. 6/10.

>Club 75

Tied with Oud in regards to my favorite of the bunch. Like a deeper, woodier Le Male. Without the vanilla notes. Magnificent power and projection, infinity flexible as a warmer weather frag. 10/10.

I don’t know what else I should buy from them. Thinking either City Tower or Furyo. But I’ve heard mixed things about Furyo.

What are Arabian/Riviera Nights like?

[Anonymous No.17085580]

To make it short

I want a fragrance, i love Dior Sauvage but want somthing for high heat summer.

I really need somthing with "power" becouse i work with smelly stuff at work and i started to love good smelling stuff

(like really guys i was never a fragrance guy, but as i started the work with that smelly stuff and i tryed Dior Sauvage it was like my second "first sex")

[Anonymous No.17085581]

Anyone tried shit like zara frags, are they memes?

[Anonymous No.17085604]

Went to the mall yesterday and got pic related. Came with a flask and a sample of Invictus. I'm hoping to have a nice summer with these.

[Anonymous No.17085605]

>>17085580
Which Sauvage do you like?
If you like the regular Sauvage, go for the one you posted instead (Sauvage Elixir). Way stronger and usually not that suited to high heat, it should easily be capable of overpowering smelly stuff in that situation.

[Anonymous No.17085607]

>>17085605
yeah i meant sauvage elexir

[Anonymous No.17085614]

>>17085576
I don't know if i should be impressed or disgusted

[Anonymous No.17085622]

Got another bottle of Initio Oud For Greatness coming this week.

[Anonymous No.17085626]

>>17085622
I've wanted to try it but I'm waiting until the weather gets cooler.

[Anonymous No.17085630]

I'm getting loads of carded samples and using them so I leave a little bit left and then piss in them and hand them out as little thank you gifts to people I don't like much

[Anonymous No.17085632]

>just noticed a few of my shirts' collars are stained yellow from rubbing against frags
fuck

[Anonymous No.17085633]

>>17085626
I still use it in summer unless it's disgustingly hot. Just one short spray on the back of the neck and it's all good.

Spraying it on the throat makes it ride up way too hard in the summer and makes me noseblind.

[Anonymous No.17085642]

>>17085576
Get Furyo while fragrance buy ca still has cheap bottles. Still too expensive for what it is but way better than usual prices on the market.
Eh it's already inching up in price, the fragracebuyCA bottles were 45
At least it's a complete presentation
Look at the bassnotes reviews if you want less retarded takes on it
https://www.ebay.com/itm/333811738776
You might like Arabian nights but be aware it was made specifically for the middle eastern market
Here is a bottle of long discontinued force majeure for $28, very rare opportunity
https://www.ebay.com/itm/164817498737?
I see some bottles of rivera nights on ebay too, might be worth checking out, this one seems to review really well even on fagrant
Silver scent is apparently a smash hit in Australia as a loud clubbing fragrance.
I also see some bottles of witness in the $30 range, im surprised i thought it was discontinued as well. Sonds like a pretty dated mens scent

[Anonymous No.17085644]

>>17085576
i have furyo, it was a disappointment, only longevity is good
if you can get full bottle for 20 bucks then try, but it' not worth more
and i also have oms gold, parameters are nuclear but i'm still not sure if i like it or not
it's very dirty and definitely only for cold weather, wish that apple note lasted longer
>>17085604
anything about those? i have a decant of artisan pure, but it's weird and a bit chemical
i also bought 20 ml of picrel and 5 ml of turathi blue, i'm very curious

[Anonymous No.17085661]

>>17085607
That stuff is already rather powerful. You will have to resort to the more popular "niche" brands, like Amouage, Xerjoff or Nasomatto. Any brand which is mostly known for power will work. Otherwise I see no chance to actually overwhelm whatever smelly stuff you're working with.

[Anonymous No.17085662]

>>17085580
L'Eau d'Issey pour Homme Wood & Wood
Has the same ambroxan base as sauvage, fuity woody notes but pleasant, no big candy bomb or anything like that. Good strength lasts for quite a while. Works in high heat, other people will like the smell.
Bottles on ebay for decent prices still.
https://www.fragrantica.com/perfume/Issey-Miyake/L-Eau-d-Issey-pour-Homme-Wood-Wood-55797.html

[Anonymous No.17085673]

This shit is so good.
>green fresh opening
>leathery, gasoline-like backbone
>floral-musky drydown

[Anonymous No.17085680]

>>17085531
Nicolai, Frederic Malle, Maria Candida Gentile if you happen to be a woman or don't mind not smelling masculine. Few Amouages like Dia, Jubi and Bracken are great. Generally the best niche brands are sort of following tracks of vintage designer perfumery. You can see the trend - their perfumes are made by classicicly trained perfumers. The rest of niche is hardly wearable and not functional enough. If anyone wants to spend money, its much better to get into vintage and Guerlain /Chanel/Hermes boutique collections than niche.

[Anonymous No.17085684]

>>17085673
I don't get this one, i should like it, your description sounds like half the frags i wear but i tried it on skin and i don't like it. Starts out smelling like pumpkin pie and dries down to something abrasive that doesnt have anywhere near the petrol vibe i was hoping for. My GF who loves all the sntiky dated stuff i wear usually also didn't like it.
Maybe the tester in my store is ancient.

[Anonymous No.17085685]

>>17085570
??? that's not original santal

[Anonymous No.17085687]

>>17085673
poured into a leather bag.

[Anonymous No.17085691]

My grandma recently visited from Mexico and she brought me pic related. Smells pretty good but does anyone know what it's a clone/knock off of? Would love to buy the original, if possible.

[Anonymous No.17085699]

>>17085680
>The rest of niche is hardly wearable and not functional enough
Isn't that a bit of an exaggeration? Are houses like Etat libre d'orange, IA, MDCI and other "daring" perfumers really unwearable?

[Anonymous No.17085702]

Is it true that iso e super smells really hot to women or is it a meme

[Anonymous No.17085711]

>>17085642

Thank you for the force majeure anon. Snagged as a summer frag for my collection.

Silver Scent is something I’ve looked into and it’s not exactly my cup of tea. I have limits with non citrus fruitiness, OMS Ruby being basically my max.

I think I might defer on Arabian/Riviera nights until the winter when it’s more seasonal. I’m leaning on City Tower but it’s only because I’m looking for a strongly tobacco-y Bogart.

>>17085644

I was thinking Furyo because I trust Bogart to provide and I’m looking for a beast mode animalic to round out my collection. Would a vintage Kouros or Anteus be a better buy?

[Anonymous No.17085724]

>>17085691
My best guess based on the notes is
Extreme Blue by Michael Kors
https://www.fragrantica.com/perfume/Michael-Kors/Extreme-Blue-36507.html
Here are the notes listed for you frag, you can compare them to the fragrantica page
>Fresh notes of Bergamot and Cardamom open the way to a heart that combines Juniper and Cypress; deep down a touch of warmth and masculinity with Amber and Musks to extend the durability of the fragrance.

[Anonymous No.17085727]

>>17085711
>Would a vintage Kouros or Anteus be a better buy?
Yes, but a vintage antaues is going to run you $250 for a 100ml and kouros is going to run even higher for the desired older bottles. Again i think the bassnotes reviews will give you the most realistic take of what to expect.

[Anonymous No.17085733]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA4e0NqyYMw
What's the best frag for waging psychological/olfactory warfare?
>no secretions magnifique or kouros or zootopian shit please

[Anonymous No.17085737]

Post your collections. Here's mine.

[Anonymous No.17085744]

>>17085733
Why The Ghost In The Shell of course
https://www.fragrantica.com/perfume/Etat-Libre-d-Orange/The-Ghost-In-The-Shell-69412.html
It really sounds like it isn't all that cyberpunk

[Anonymous No.17085747]

>>17085737
>silver shoulders
Im jealous
Some real gems but i leans hard into quality over quality

[Anonymous No.17085760]

>>17085724
Thanks, my man. I'll have to go check it out and make the comparison. Appreciate your help!

[Anonymous No.17085761]

>>17085702
Meme.

[Anonymous No.17085763]

>>17085761
So does it have any effect at all or is it bullshit

[Anonymous No.17085767]

>>17085519
So i very much enjoy the tobacco notes of SL Chergui but I'm looking for something less sweet. Suggestions?

[Anonymous No.17085770]

>>17085737
Mad jealous of your selections of TF and AdP. Some real great stuff there.

[Anonymous No.17085776]

>>17085737
you must be from the usa (this is a bad thing)

[Anonymous No.17085783]

>>17085737

My cheapie hoard. I intend to roughly finish it off with two more summery frags and one Animalic.

[Anonymous No.17085786]

>>17085733
Not a perfume, not a perfume extra stong or whatever its called
Anything from the eccentric molecules molecule series
10% NORLIMBANOL in perfumers alcohol

[Anonymous No.17085787]

>>17085644
I haven't fully tested them out yet. But the light blue has that real string grapefruit smell up front that fades a bit as it dries. It's still there if you get close though.

[Anonymous No.17085789]

>>17085786
>Anything from the eccentric molecules molecule series
Aren't these as inoffensive as it gets though

[Anonymous No.17085793]

>>17085733
Half the weird shit this polish guy makes in his kitchen
https://www.ebay.com/itm/185207204260
https://www.ebay.com/itm/185199460866

[Anonymous No.17085800]

>>17085783
men's obsession is shit, women's one is 100x better unironically

[Anonymous No.17085806]

>>17085789
>Aren't these as inoffensive as it gets though
20 sprays of ambroxan will drive people nuts. Actually 20 or 30 sprays of any of them would make people smell weird things they don't understand and i think it would be hard to figure out where the smell is coming from

[Anonymous No.17085808]

>>17085806
How does ambroxan compare to iso E?

[Anonymous No.17085820]

>>17085800

I got a splash on tester that gave me exceptionally good performance. I was early in my collection, asked for Obsession, and got it as a Christmas gift. TJ Maxx discounted, I think.

I’m disappointed by the performance of the spray version. But I keep it nonetheless and use it on occasion.

[Anonymous No.17085838]

>>17085767
guerlain vetiver has some tobacco and is not sweet at all, zero sweetness

[Anonymous No.17085842]

>>17085540
just buy platinum egoiste already. it moggs fierce and legend and is not as overpriced as percival

[Anonymous No.17085846]

>>17085842
Unfortunately Fierce now mogs itself since it's been reformulated and the performance is now piss poor. What a shame, it truly was the archetypal panty dropper frag

[Anonymous No.17085850]

If you're looking for a motor oil frag.

[Anonymous No.17085853]

>>17085580
you could try Dakar by Al Rehab. it's a clone of Drakkar Noir that's supposedly stronger and Drakkar Noir has some similarities to Sauvage Elixir, but is definitely much more fresh and warm weather appropriate

[Anonymous No.17085860]

Is there a fresh, light frag that doesn't have garbage performance? Need something cool, crisp, clean but that doesn't go away 1 hour in

[Anonymous No.17085863]

>>17085737
what's up with all the cowboy boots?

[Anonymous No.17085874]

>>17085860
citrus vetiver stuff tends to have decent performance. grey vetiver maybe or something

[Anonymous No.17085877]

give me a fresh masculine frag for a dry 43c/110f summer.

[Anonymous No.17085880]

>>17085808
Its much more aggressive and persistent

[Anonymous No.17085887]

>>17085877
guelain homme l'eau boisee

[Anonymous No.17085888]

>>17085877
Carry a bottle of dior homme cologne and reapply every hour or two

[Anonymous No.17085891]

>>17085877
Yattagan by Caron

[Anonymous No.17085896]

>>17085877
https://www.etsy.com/listing/801303649/lost-in-space-independents-warszawa-edp

[Anonymous No.17085911]

>>17085737
i think you need more

[Anonymous No.17085913]

>>17085880
So it's like a better version? Or is it a different smell

[Anonymous No.17085922]

>>17085911
>quality over quantity
nice collection anon

[Anonymous No.17085936]

>>17085913
not that anon, but they are different smells. iso e super is much more of a cedar woodsy smell (always gets compared to pencil shavings). ambroxan (synthesized aromachemical - i think from clary sage - used mainly as a substitute for ambergris) is a warm, slightly sweet, ambery/musky smell. tends to have a slight metallic tinge to it. feels "cleaner" than real ambergris which has more animalistic/marine qualities to it

[Anonymous No.17085945]

Well, I wrote the love letter to this anon >>17083982 in the previous thread and he added me on disc. Let me greentext it real quick:
>we dicuss frags (I'm a total newbie with 4 frags, he is a seasoned fraghead)
>he owns a huge, impressive frag collections >has most Creeds and Amouage etc
>since I'm in EU and he's in the U.S we try to find a way for him to buy me two 1.8 ml samples (started with just Encre Noire but he wanted to send me 2 samples wow thanks anon)
>can't find samplers in the U.S that ship to EU
>"anon I could send you a gift card on Notino"
>"nah man the cheapest one is 25 bucks, too much. Just paypal me the amount for the 2 samples and i'll order them"
>I RECEIVE THIS

You are the maddest, kindest lad I have ever known, I'll never thank you enough for this. Thank you Anon.

Today after a lot of thinking, I decided on the first frag to get, I ordered Missoni Wave, 100 ml for 28 euros. I am so happy and I have been telling this story to my friends, they must think I'm crazy.
Thank you dreamy anon. I will forever be grateful.

[Anonymous No.17085951]

Anybody got recommendations for some good atomizers? Sometimes I want to reapply while I'm out without having to carry a whole bottle in my bag. All the atomizers I see on amazon look like dogshit, was wondering if anyone knew of some secret godtier ones that I can cop for cheap.

[Anonymous No.17085964]

give me the most realistic, life-like fragrances you've ever smelled, scents that really made you feel you were in front of the real thing

[Anonymous No.17085966]

>>17085951
Just get a 2-3ml official sample of whatever scent you wanna carry with you and refill that vial once empty. 2-3ml vials fit anywhere including a wallet, are more than enough since it'll last you like a week, they usually have solid atomizers since they're from the brands themselves, and you get the aesthetic benefit of the printed name.

If you already have sample vials around, can just wash them out and fill them up too.

[Anonymous No.17085969]

>>17085534
>>17085554
>inb4 shill
>shill on damage control even before he gets called out
even leaving BI specifically out of this, would you buy anything because of a shill's "recommendation"?

[Anonymous No.17085977]

>>17085737
>10000 pairs of a same shoe
>10000 redundant and unused fragrance bottles
why people do this? I'd be ashamed to post something like this

[Anonymous No.17085988]

>>17085945
you're welcome bud. thanks for the letter <3
get the gary edt too don't be cringe

[Anonymous No.17085992]

>>17085632
I noticed some strips turning yellow with some frags. I'm worried now.
>>17085576
Great post, very informative.
>>17085604
D&GLBF is so good, you did great.
>>17085580
Sauvage EDT is already pretty strong, 5 sprays and people will smell you from meters away
>>17085581
I tried one, was okay. They have testers inside Zara, check them out.
>>17085673
hell yeah it is.
>>17085687
beta spotted
>>17085737
Yeeeeehaaaaaaaa
>>17085783
Still waiting for you to redpill me on Ted Lapidus PHS. I want that fucking bottle but people saying it smells like Kouros (piss) dicouraged me.
>>17085964
D&G Light Blue Forever is like smelling actual citruses.
Kouros (and Antaeus) is like smelling actual piss.
>>17085988
I'm pretty sure they discontinued it lmao I can't find a single pic of it. This one looks sick too

[Anonymous No.17086019]

I fucking love the smell of gasoline and want to smell like it at every opportunity
is there a cheaper less flammable alternative to dosing myself in it every morning?

[Anonymous No.17086020]

>>17086019
is this bait

[Anonymous No.17086029]

>>17086019
Dior Fahrenheit EDT.
or its cheaper clone Mercedes Benz Intense.

[Anonymous No.17086030]

>>17086020
no
is it truly so ridiculous for me to want to smell like gasoline?

[Anonymous No.17086075]

Thoughts on layering fragrances? It doesn't receive much talk around here.
Is it simply trial and error with two scents of your liking?
Should I even bother if I don't consider myself/my nose advanced at all?

[Anonymous No.17086077]

Thoughts on Tom Ford Noir Extreme?

[Anonymous No.17086112]

>>17085964
Baraonda. As a former alchy this hits a little too close to home and I have flashbacks to those dark days for like the first three hours I apply it. I love it, but people will think you just downed a fifth of buffalo trace

[Anonymous No.17086146]

>>17085992

I’m not the anon shilling it. But I can say TLPH Sport doesn’t smell like piss. It’s a musky floral that is weirdly fresh at the same time. Better in the dry down than the opening.

It’s a red headed stepchild in my little hoard. Mainly because I do not tend to like florals (Most of Dior’s frags grate me because of this). I keep it because it is nice and springy, different from the woody-aquatic frags that make up most of my warm weather rotation.

[Anonymous No.17086172]

>>17085992
>D&GLBF is so good, you did great.
Thanks anon. I'm real excited to try it out this week at work.

[Anonymous No.17086200]

>>17086075
>Thoughts on layering fragrances?
Just don't.

[Anonymous No.17086215]

>>17086077
I'm a fan. Definitely not something to wear in hot/humid weather. Smells like a fancy dessert.

[Anonymous No.17086337]

Opinions on cannabis scents? I'm thinking of doing either a blind buy of Bad Boy by Carolina Herrera or Music Festival by Margiela. Apparently Music Festival was discontinued so I'll probably have to buy from amazon or some other shady site, though. Let me know which one you guys think I should pick up.

[Anonymous No.17086394]

>>17085644
Box Design reminds me of Eau Fraiche, is it any similar ?

[Anonymous No.17086410]

>>17086337
I think you should pick up Black Afgano instead. it's definitely going to be stronger and higher quality than the Margiela frag

[Anonymous No.17086413]

What do you think about Lapidus Pour Homme?
Does it resembles Kouros?

[Anonymous No.17086415]

I remember seeing a pic or article link about fake niche perfumes- basically some niche brands are owned by bigger ones and are just fronting
Anyone have it or more info?

[Anonymous No.17086417]

>>17086337
if you want a ""real"" photorealistic cannabis scent, try Ganja Kasturi by Prin

[Anonymous No.17086419]

This might be a weird question but do you have suggestions for a perfume that invokes panic or fear? I'm specifically looking for one that is feminine but I'd love to hear all suggestions. Thank you

[Anonymous No.17086420]

>>17086415
I don't have the pic, but it's pretty easy to tell
basically even without looking a particular brand up: does it cost 300$ and are youtubers shilling it massively?
examples:
>Parfums de Marly
yes to both, classic fake niche
>Nicolai
no to both. real niche
>MDCI
yes to expensive, no to being shilled. real niche

[Anonymous No.17086437]

>>17085580
Nishane Hacivat is pretty damn powerful for a summer frag

[Anonymous No.17086444]

>>17085853
Got the clone oil and it doesn't really mog DN in terms of projection/sillage. It's longer lasting on skin, but it just doesn't project. 40 sprays of Drakkar Noir just work better.
Neither of them comes close to the performance of Sauvage Elixir, though.

[Anonymous No.17086447]

>>17086420
So Malle, Amouage, Heeley aren't real niche?

[Anonymous No.17086450]

>>17085580
>>17086444
ah, okay. well, Drakkar Noir is many times cheaper than Sauvage Elixir anyway, so anon can afford to apply it heavily if he wants

[Anonymous No.17086453]

>>17086019
ELDO Rien

[Anonymous No.17086454]

>>17086447
not sure about Heeley, but yeah, Malle and Amouage are big business corporate-owned brands that definitely pay youtubers to shill their shit from time to time

[Anonymous No.17086458]

>>17086454
Aren't they still considerably more innovative than most designer brands, while having good performance (especially Amouage which iirc has the reputation of being the niche house with the most consistently good longevity and projection)?

[Anonymous No.17086468]

>>17086458
I should hope they would beat most designer brands, considering they're like 5x the price
not saying they make bad products, but I just don't like how inflated perfume prices have gotten and how faux niche brand identity and influencer marketing is used to justify those prices
now designer houses are trying to capitalize on this too with their "private" lines... most of which get mogged by 50$ Guerlain fragrances and cheaper classics from the houses in question

[Anonymous No.17086469]

Boss Bottled is nice but kind of one dimensional and generic.
I was gifted a bottle but I'm not really sure what to do with it. For hot days I have Cool Water, for cold days I have Encre Noire, for general all-season versatility I have Molecule 01, for dates and nights out I have The Dreamer, Jazz Club or Prada L'Homme, there's not an occasion where I'd feel like I would need Boss Bottled more than any other scent

[Anonymous No.17086471]

>>17085699
I wanted to reply, but the answer is connected to the overall belief I hold for this whole niche vs designer thing, so this is going to be a two part blog (thank you for reading it).


I'm using the word “niche” more like “as opposed to the established classic way of making perfumes”. ELDO are highly hit or miss, and their “hits” are nothing groundbreaking. A better example of brands doing something different and succeeding would be CdG wchich technically is not niche. I don't mention MDCI because I don't have experience with them but Histories de Parfum is another good one. My point is that there is an already deeply established idea of what makes a good perfume — what makes it sensual, sexual, welcoming and all that stuff. Niche fragrances too many times try to question that status quo without even considering replacing all the working components of a great fragrance and most of times the result is nothing but interesting and aspirational. They speak too much to intellect and too little to instinct. Perfume making is not mature enough to create new ideas that match quality with the classics, so the best stuff just borrows from them and modernizes them. There's a reason the most expensive fragrances in the world are Guerlain copies made with an unlimited budget. There are pretty good attempts at creative perfumery, like Masque Montecristo, but often they are way too obscure to be appealing in a conventional way, which to me is the point of a good perfume. Much like graphic design or architecture, it is supposed to be partially art and partially problem-solving. The problem being – how to make a person more appealing, how to make them seem more open and closer, in an instinctive kind of way.

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[Anonymous No.17086477]

>>17086471
French perfume was trying to convey human body in some extent, so that whatever flower or citruses is attached to the “musky” part, it smells like it is a natural part of that person's aura. Now if you make your perfume just with flowers and citruses, it's not going to smell personal and natural – the fragrance will be disconnected from the skin, will be perceived separately to the wearer. See - Mitsouko, Eau de Hemes, Eau Sauvage, Antaeus, Kouros, Rochas Femme - they all try to have some “human” part to it, which is often referred to as animalic. Guerlain did it, Roudnitska did it, then Ellena did it similarly to Roudnitska as he held his Eau de Hermes as the best perfume ever created.Bourdon did it with Animalis – a premade blend of costus, civetone and other funky stuff, when he put a tonne of it in Kouros. The modern equivalent of that is Aventus - it has a huge amount of musk, what makes the fragrance seamlessly gradient into the “feel” of the human body. Which btw is the exact reason why it works (not pineapple to the contrary belief) and which is why once you get it, it's easy to spot a dupe (they smell like perfume oils, not like an actual person). In that sense Aventus fits more into a designer category – it tries to be open, sexy, convey the feel of an active man. Sauvage does a similar thing, although it lacks in the creativity department. This is something, that androgynous (which most of the niche is) fragrances will never achieve because it is based around an important instinctual trigger (I know how dumb it sounds). Niche or artisanal fragrances come with a tradeoff, and they do appeal to people who are interested in the intellectual (autistic) aspect of the smell.

[Anonymous No.17086480]

>>17086477
So you're saying a fragrance cannot blend seamlessly with the individual unless it's heavily gendered?

[Anonymous No.17086481]

>>17086454
Would you mind listing all corporate owned fake niche houses you can think of? So i can stay clear of them

[Anonymous No.17086491]

>>17086480

It will, if the individual is not heavily gendered lol.
To be frank, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that
fragrance to be attractive should have some “human” smell in it. Things like musk, castoreum or cumin make shit smell more bodily that without being gendered on their own, and then they can be steered into male or female categories by whatever structure you add to them. It's the fougere part that makes Kouros smell masculine, not the musc part.

[Anonymous No.17086493]

>>17086481
Corporate owned niche doesn't make them bad

[Anonymous No.17086500]

>>17086491
>if the individual is not heavily gendered lol.
Most people aren't hypermasculine or hyperfeminine
>fragrance to be attractive should have some “human” smell in it.
Hmm, people say H24 is attractive but it's distinctly artificial. Same for M01/iso e super. Some fragrances don't smell very organic at all but are very appreciated, like Ganymede. I think it's a bit reducive to say fragrances without a "bodily" element are generally not very wearable

[Anonymous No.17086511]

Should I store my frags in the fridge if it's about 30C in my apartment?

[Anonymous No.17086520]

>>17086500
I'm not saying they aren't wearable, I'm saying they appeal to a different aspect of attraction, not the natural and subconscious one, but to thw the intellectual and conscious one. Can't say about H24, but I'd argue that while Ganymede smells good, there's nothing instinctively attractive about it. I'm trying to make a distinction here - what people say they like and what they actually subconciously register as atractive might not be same thing. That said I realize that words "niche" and"designer" are not very useful anymore, designer perfumes dip their toes in asexuality just as well, at least since 90s, so what would be a better distinction is "french" vs "modern", which is not perfect but somewhat better. I do also realize, that there are exceptions to what I say, after all, it's anybody's choice too smell like a forrest if they want, my point is that there is more to fragrance than just "nice smell" and I'm disappointed that only few brands are interested in capruring that.

[Anonymous No.17086524]

>>17086520
>I'm disappointed that only few brands are interested in capruring that.
Do you think it's possible though to make a fragrance both innovative as niche houses do with sometimes downright weird smells, while retaining this level of subconscious attractiveness at the same time? Doesn't one preclude the other?

[Anonymous No.17086566]

Hello anons. I have Yves Saint Laurent Y parfum, and Acqua di Giò Absolu.

I also like Dior Fahrenheit but I've yet to buy it, and I really liked Channel Egoiste but I'm worried that it's only available in EdT and not EdP/Parfum. With this in mind, what would you recommend for me to try out next?

[Anonymous No.17086571]

What would happen if I layered Boss Bottled with iso e super since I don't know what to do with it >>17086469

[Anonymous No.17086592]

>>67254017
/fit/ are at it again guys!

[Anonymous No.17086599]

>>17086413
I have a bottle right here, it resembles kouros in that iy has a big dollop of honey, but it doesn't really have the dirtyness of kouros. Anyway if you like old frags its nice and it's about to be reformulated due to new EU regulations so it's a decent time to get a bottle.

[Anonymous No.17086620]

>>17086566
I would't worry much about edt vs edp distinctions, they don't mean much nowadays. some edts perform great while some edps perform like shit, it's all in a case by case basis

[Anonymous No.17086638]

#AllWhite

[Anonymous No.17086639]

Any ideas for a higher end version of Versace Dreamer?
I like the /dreamy/ vibe but it does smell its price. Bonus points for a FW and SS option

[Anonymous No.17086700]

>>17086639
Mayyybe Reflection Man Amouage
Mayybe Field Notes from Paris

[Anonymous No.17086721]

wearing this again today.
definitely a winner. a very different, interesting smell.

[Anonymous No.17086724]

>>17086639
unfortunately, you wont find a simmilar scent. But I'd say Barry Lyndon from Maria Candida Gentile has even dreamier vibe, and shares a strong note of sage. Not very masculine but dreamy as fuck

[Anonymous No.17086732]

>>17086700
Thanks
>>17086724
Sounds good, anything with the same kind of dreamy vibe is fine too, it doesn't have to have the same notes as Dreamer.
Anything for summer?

[Anonymous No.17086742]

>>17086639
FW Tobacco Nuit from Atelier Cologne
SS maybe Gucci pour Homme or something like that, don't know a good fit.

[Anonymous No.17086767]

>>17086721
...that only lasts about an hour

[Anonymous No.17086814]

>>17086524
I think one of the things that made fragrances innovative in the past was how familiar notes in specific combinations could create unusual/unknown smells. Fougere and Chypre is an example of creating something abstract with well known components.

But I'd say, I don't expect fragrances to be innovative as much as transformative. Stuff that I mentioned before wasn't necessarily innovative in concept, it was innovative in how they took existing ideas and transformed them into something else. There is this thought that artists can find their own style while trying to copy their masters. They fail at it, make mistakes, but in the process something even better can be made. To simplify – one group tries to copy way too literally – succeeds but often bores, and the other just isn't interested in using the knowledge of the past at all, and that's why it can only go so far – captures interest and disappoints with unpracticality.

>>17086732
Barry Lyndon is good for spring summer and autumn I'd say, but I wear anything anytime, so I may not be the best person to ask when it comes to freshies. Vintage Kenzo PH is one of the few aquatic dreamy fragrances I know – it is like listening to Boards of Canada on a windy overcast day on at the empty beach.

[Anonymous No.17086821]

>>17086814
>it is like listening to Boards of Canada on a windy overcast day on at the empty beach.
Based BoC enjoyer, I like that description. Is the current formulation completely different?

[Anonymous No.17086827]

>>17086821
It's dogshit mate, I used to work at a perfume store and the lady that owns it has some vintage miniatures. I visited her a few days ago, so I have a fresh memory of how beautiful it is. Whatever was the magical ingredient, it's no longer there. Smells drastically different. You'd have to look for pre-2011 bottles if memory serves. I'd say it was Fahrenheit level stuff.

[Anonymous No.17086828]

>>17086827
Damn. Thanks

[Anonymous No.17086836]

>>17086814
>Vintage Kenzo PH
there's an used vintage 50ml bottle available for 10 euros, should I?

[Anonymous No.17086848]

>>17086814
>>17086827
Apparently Jeanne en Provence Aqua is very similar to Kenzo PH 1991

[Anonymous No.17086850]

>>17086836
If you can make sure it's older than the reformulation from around 2011 (you'd have to do a little research on that) than absolutely yes. I think I tried a sample around that time which was fantastic, and then around 2012 I bought a bottle, and it smelled like a bug spray, and I'm not exaggerating. I remember that many people were disappointed with it around that era.

[Anonymous No.17086862]

>>17086814
>windy overcast day on at the empty beach
There's a light, tropical or upbeat category of aquatic frags with the usual Cool Water, Neroli Intense, all typical energizing and crisp summer scents. What about darker, stormy, more broody aquatic scents similar to what you're describing, aside from vintage PH?

[Anonymous No.17086906]

I'm sampling this right now. Tell me what my opinion of it is, /fa/

[Anonymous No.17086955]

>>17086862
The /fa/ answer would be Beach Hut, and I agree but I don't like it, it's too dense for me. Fahrenheit Aqua (not Cologne), Sel Marin are fantastic. Acqua by Bvlgari was excellent last time i tried it, sort of same category as Kenzo PH - floral aquatic, albeit lighter and less aromatic.
>>17086906
You like it and you feel good about your purchase

[Anonymous No.17086961]

>>17086955
>too dense
In what sense? Too heavy thus not fit for summer?

[Anonymous No.17086970]

>>17086961
For me is just too dense, not just for summer, kind of too heavy relient on the realism aspect, and doesn't do too much to me compositionwise. That's just me

[Anonymous No.17086975]

I went to the local botanical gardens and smelt the most beautiful citrusy rose. It smelt lemony, floral and bright (yellow/orange rose)

Any frags like this?

[Anonymous No.17086987]

>>17086975
eau de protection by ELDO is kind of a citrusy rose

[Anonymous No.17086997]

>wearing aqua di gio above the age of 18
why?

[Anonymous No.17086999]

>>17086997
Why should anyone care what you think?

[Anonymous No.17087000]

>>17086999
because i am the one who knocks

[Anonymous No.17087007]

>>17086970
Okay. I'll sample what you recommended anyway, and will keep searching for floral aquatic (aromatic?) scents if that's the specific type of frag I should be looking for

[Anonymous No.17087009]

>>17085570
you have 0 taste

[Anonymous No.17087068]

Opinions on Bois Imperial?
Ordered a tester, quite like it but expected a woody vetiver bomb like Encre Noire with some added benefits.
Instead, the vetiver seems to take a seat in the back here to the patchouli/basil woodyness.

What’s the consensus? Thinking about buying it.

[Anonymous No.17087069]

>>17087009
sez u. it smells like a dew-dropped spring meadow in a mountain valley. it's realistic, but much too floral for my taste.

[Anonymous No.17087071]

>>17087068
I meant sample, not tester

[Anonymous No.17087077]

>>17086471
Some good points there.
One only have to look at the descriptions that is provided for designer fragrances is usually some vague image of characteristics, "a confident man who knows what he wants" etc. Which is a rather feminine way of thinking i.e the anonymous archetype. "This fragrance is for the perfect man fresh out of the shower putting on a white shirt" or "the bad boy in a leather jacket drinking whiskey and riding a motorcycle". When do you ever hear a man talk about female fragrances that way?

"Niche", or perhaps they should be called impressionist/abstract perfumes are in contrast indeed often created to capture a feeling or image, usually in nature. L`Air du Desert Marocain is a typical example.

[Anonymous No.17087088]

>>17086500
H24 to me have a clean musky feel as it dries down. Iso E also have "clean skin" smell.

[Anonymous No.17087106]

>>17087077
>created to capture a feeling or image
Which niche scents do you feel capture their intended feeling or image the best?

[Anonymous No.17087108]

>>17086827
youre off your rocker, old man. the frag is still good.

[Anonymous No.17087113]

>>17087069
i think its a sophisticated gentlemanly rose. fair enough if you dont like it, but this is top 3 creeds easily, along with royal oud and millesime imperial. it has grown on me a lot

[Anonymous No.17087177]

What's the oneohtrix point never of fragrances

[Anonymous No.17087180]

Shill me a fragrance to get a big tiddy goth gf

[Anonymous No.17087193]

>>17087108
For you, noselet

[Anonymous No.17087201]

>>17087177
He uses vintage synths and wierd samples from old commercials so that has to be somewhat new and futuristic but referencing old stuff… I say Encens Mythique or Synthetic Jungle.
>>17087180
CdG Black is the goth chads perfume of choice

[Anonymous No.17087212]

>>17087201
What about Aphex Twin

[Anonymous No.17087226]

>>17087212
Just use this and you're good

[Anonymous No.17087228]

>>17087226
kek

[Anonymous No.17087246]

I was wondering about dark or like more reserved introverted maybe a bit mysterious or weird smells. Id like to know more about what notes people associate with this feel or what perfume houses are known for leaning into that feel. Any recs are welcome of course.
I tend to wear perfumes for myself so I dont mind if theyre "hard to wear" which as far as I know just means youre not gonna get compliments, but who gives a shit about that.
Im also curious about why certain smells are associated with these kinds of emotions, if people have insight on that.

[Anonymous No.17087264]

>>17087068
Why do you need our opinion if you have a sample?
My opinion is "buy something else". Hope that helps.

[Anonymous No.17087267]

>>17087246
I can't help much but I'm very interested in this too.
Generally speaking it seems that some notes, when dominant, are associated with specific vibes: iris is soft and somewhat feminine, neroli is fresh and reminiscient of summer and the sun, iso e super gives off an impression of cleanliness, oud is warm, dark and intoxicating, etc
Now as for specific scents or houses, I'm not quite sure and would like to know more as well

[Anonymous No.17087268]

>>17087246
Get Tauer's L'Oudh or Bogue MEM. Both are introverted as fuck, as in you can never go out wearing either of them.

[Anonymous No.17087281]

just blind bought CDNIM (EDT) , what am i in for?

[Anonymous No.17087284]

>>17087281
Sour and smoky smell, lots of compliments from men, zero from women.

[Anonymous No.17087286]

>>17087246
>>17087267
Also as far as introverted scents go in my experience
>Molecule 01: discreet, understated, subtle, fit for every time of day and year
>Incense Avignon: weird, serious, solemn, shadowy, dignified, better for cold days
>Versace Dreamer, Dior Homme and Dior Homme Intense: nighttime-ish, intimate, very soft and gentle, more fit for cold days
>Encre Noire: somber, earthy, dark, gloomy, fit for cold days or spring
(As you can see, nothing much for hot days)

[Anonymous No.17087296]

>>17087286
What makes a smell good for warm days versus cold days? Im guessing warm days youd want more sweet or fresh smells otherwise it might feel heavy in a warm temperature? like when youre already full and see food and it just makes you sick

[Anonymous No.17087305]

>>17087296
Yeah pretty much, scents with tobacco, oud, some spices and amber and so on are cloying in the heat so you want fresh aquatic, citrusy, woody etc notes

[Anonymous No.17087315]

>>17085644
>>17085711
Man I wanted to like furyo so much, still hoping somehow I come around on it down the line but fuck it just does not smell good, its like some weird closet smell or something.

[Anonymous No.17087314]

>>17087068
Would honestly be fine with keeping it as my only fragrance for the rest of my life. It’s just so damn versatile; I’ve been complimented on it both at work and during nights out.

It’s probably the first fragrance that I like just as much as the people around me, and at the end of the day I found that to be my only ambition with this hobby.

[Anonymous No.17087321]

>>17085576
forgot to post this above, get city tower bro its good, and watch scentlands vid on it where he gives this vivid description of imagining a serial killer wearing it

[Anonymous No.17087334]

>>17087180
>Shill me a fragrance to get a big tiddy goth gf
I dated a goth girl when I was in college and her favorites on me were:
Givenchy Pi
Prada Luna Rossa Carbon

Makes me think that they just want to look dark and mysterious, but they sill prefer clean, sweet, pleasant, etc.

[Anonymous No.17087353]

>>17087296
Marketing. I wore Pure Havane the other day, it was awesome. Don't care that it was 30°C, that just helps with projection.

[Anonymous No.17087375]

thinking of layering molecule 01 with eau de guerlain (OP pic), is this a good or bad idea?

need it to be stronger and longer lasting but idk if molecule 01 would alter its scent too much

[Anonymous No.17087380]

>>17087375
Yeah its fine.

[Anonymous No.17087421]

>>17085576
A man with taste

[Anonymous No.17087427]

>walked into perfume store asked to try many samples
>told them I buy testers on eBay

[Anonymous No.17087437]

>>17087281
women will gush like fountains once you walk past them

[Anonymous No.17087443]

>walked into perfume store asked to try many samples
>they told me it was a McDonald's
>bought chicken nuggies instead
>everything worked out okay

[Anonymous No.17087446]

>>17087315
Nice collection anon. Sample fim noir, i would love to see your take on it
https://www.clandestinelaboratories.com/fragrances/film-noir

[Anonymous No.17087451]

>>17085850
I'm a sucker for this genre and i own CdG Tar and Garage, but Fueled Up is the most extreme gasoline, motor engine scent i came across.
Fahrenheit goes in that direction, but it's a less harsh and enjoyable version.

[Anonymous No.17087453]

>>17087451
I was looking at that shop the other day.
Is it actually wearable or is it really harsh and unpleasant?

[Anonymous No.17087471]

DHC smell amazing but i am going thru it like a madman, need something like it but most longevity

[Anonymous No.17087479]

>>17087446
Its just the rotation, and the description of that scent is the worst sales pitch I have ever read. All of those words to say absolutely nothing, you also don't call yourself a hidden gem, hard pass.

[Anonymous No.17087480]

>>17087453
Think off Fahrenheit, remove the fresh and floral aspects of it and intensify the leathery notes if it, add in some medicinal woody notes from Gucci Guilty Absolute.
I only own a 10 milli sample and i'm good to go, because it's that intense.
It's not really wearable in a mainstream sense, if you're more the niche or oud type of guy you probably can pull it off.

[Anonymous No.17087483]

>>17085945
>>17085992
frag for you boys

[Anonymous No.17087494]

>>17087479
fair enough

[Anonymous No.17087497]

>>17087180
The one and only.

[Anonymous No.17087499]

>>17085783

I am going to round out this collection with two more summery frags. I’ve came down to a few frags, of which I want two. One citrusy, one not. All are under $50.

I’m looking for a degree of longevity and bang for my buck, off eBay, mainly. What should I cop?

>Kenzo PH
>L’eau D’Issey PH
>Dylan Blue
>D&G Light Blue
>Luna Rossa

I’m torn in regards to Dylan Blue mainly because I don’t generally like mainstream blue frags, but think it might be a useful date frag to round things out. Maybe it’s made redundant by Club 75 though.

For citrusy ones, I don’t mind either L’Eau D’Issey or Light Blue. But wonder which would be better office wise, and lasts longer.

I like Luna Rossa. But wonder what niche it could fill.

[Anonymous No.17087514]

>>17087497
It's really that good and weird. I'm a millennial, because of that i always knew that scent DNA. But i literally forgot that this exists, until i smelled it this summer in the air in the high heat. The guy who wore it was not there anymore, but the scent was still in the air.
Maybe the situation how this fragrance was intended to be.

[Anonymous No.17087516]

>3 days since I've sent that guy on Parfumo/Souk the money for a niche frag
>including 1 full working day
>still hasn't sent me a tracking number
I haven't been scammed
right?

[Anonymous No.17087520]

>>17087516
Nah just some lazy niggers there here and there. Had the same experience with 1 month of delay.
But the majority are reliable.

[Anonymous No.17087536]

>>17087499
there are multiple variants of light blue look into it

[Anonymous No.17087558]

>>17087499
Kenzo Homme Eau de Toilette Intense
https://www.fragrantica.com/perfume/Kenzo/Kenzo-Homme-Eau-de-Toilette-Intense-67899.html
Gulerlain leau boisse

[Anonymous No.17087682]

>>17087499
Dylan Blue since it's so versatile and has good performance. Your collection desperatily need some fruits so D&G Light Blue Forever too.

[Anonymous No.17087695]

>>17087246
Much of it comes down to associations, different stuff evokes different feelings for different people. But if you want the "weirdest" notes, they'll usually be the literally morbid ones, that are reminiscent of death. Dusty and moldy for the lighter ones of that sort, rotting (plant matter/wood) or decomposing (corpses) for more pungent ones. And that's because humans are obviously alarmed by scents of sickness and death in their evolutionary psychology. Being scents that we usually want to avoid instinctively, they can be intriguing in some larger composition, something that's appalling and appealing simultaneously. Medicinal notes can have a similar effect.

I love some of the morbid notes, like rotten wood, dust, antiques, old, even moldy paper, leather, fungal stuff. Those are usually dry and come from different woody notes, most of all patchouli but also some types of vetiver, oud, papyrus, then there's resins, incense, certain green notes, primarily mosses (or lichens rather, since it's mostly oakmoss and treemoss). These combine well with sweet or flowery notes to create compelling scents. Common examples of this would be stuff like Sycomore, the Encre Noires, Bentley Intense/Absolute.

More extreme are combinations of such notes with musky, aquatic or gourmandy components, that can end up creating really strange things. I don't have much experience with this, but Amouage Bracken Man goes into that direction, it has something of strange rotten greenery. Generally having any of those morbid notes in a wet rather than dry scent profile can be odd like that, and likewise in "cold" and fresh scent profiles, there it can go the direction of embalming fluid or embalmed corpses. OG Encre Noire does have a bit of that contrast of morbid yet fresh/cold. Adding treemoss to it would probably make that quality of it rather pronounced.

"Parfum Noire" is some scene brand that makes scents for goths. Never tried it myself, is apparently mostly about patchouli.

[Anonymous No.17087698]

>>17087471
aye bro get this, supeer coll for scorching weather
this scent wont leave you after 2 hours
but after 4 hours :)

[Anonymous No.17087708]

>>17087695
Just try Amouage Figment

[Anonymous No.17087710]

For anyone that is interested Anna Zworykina Perfumes is a Russian peefumer that sells on etsy that hasn't been available since the war started. While now they are apparently a Slovenian perfumer and their store is back up on etsy.
I still haven't gotten around to trying her work but i know at least one anon was interested in her.

[Anonymous No.17087723]

>>17087471
I like this as my go-to summer fragrance. It's not quite as sweet as DHC. More dry. But performs pretty decently and is also quite cheap.

[Anonymous No.17087729]

>>17086469
Spring and fall days when you want something different and less subtle than M01.

[Anonymous No.17087828]

D&G LBF or ADG Profondo ?

[Anonymous No.17087858]

>>17087695
>OG Encre Noire does have a bit of that contrast of morbid yet fresh/cold
Don't know if it's just me, but I had an absolute WTF moment when I first sprayed EN, it was like the darkest thing, completely inorganic, as in devoid of any life. Smelled like a dusty attic in a cold house right next to a graveyard (at night of course). It was indeed somewhat morbid.
As we all know in the drydown it's actually quite pleasant and very wearable, it just doesn't last on my skin, as with most Laliques it seems.

[Anonymous No.17088038]

>>17087858
Maybe Im a noselet or just dont have experience with perfumes other than EN since it's currently my only one at home apart from a few samples, but I find it to be quite pleasant and I dont find it morbid or scary or gloomy in any way, moreso woody and nice, comforting. Maybe smelling a lot of more 'appealing' smells and then smelling EN would make me realize its true nature in hindsight, Im not sure.

[Anonymous No.17088043]

>>17087069
Based answer

[Anonymous No.17088047]

Thoughts on Light Blue Forever and Italian Love? Does the grapefruit really give off a body odor scent?

[Anonymous No.17088062]

>>17087264
Why the fuck not? Maybe someone comes up with „xy is the better version done by the same parfumeur“, „try x if you like y first“ or any kind of other information.
Stop being such a fucking retard. Why are you even here then?
>>17087314
Nice answer. Just sprayed it again. It’s one of those that seems like a very good one but not really niche/unique but after a few smells, it kinda hits.
At first i I was put off by the simplicity but the vetiver blends in perfectly with the earthy smell. Probably from the patchouli. Once you pick those apart completely, the vetiver is actually really prominent.
The oud-esque woody smell is also a weird one in itself. Comes across as synthetic but pleasant in the opening but then gets darker and different in the dry down.
Good shit.

[Anonymous No.17088069]

Anyone wear B9? Looking for a good summer daytime fragrance from them. For some reason every one of their scents is beastmode on me and there's a Neimans here that sells them now. Anything fresh/citrus/whatever is right in my wheelhouse. Already have Lafayette and Bleecker wears too similar for my tastes even though I know that's the go to for most people from that house. Any help is appreciated.

[Anonymous No.17088071]

>>17087858
Deeply earthy in the beginning, with a sort of synthetic edge reminiscent of storage spaces, yeah, and cold. Rather lovely once the cypress takes over, but I enjoy the opening too, it's still mostly natural-smelling to me.
The ENs have gotten better in terms of lasting power on my skin with time, but they definitely still shine the most on clothes.

A fragrance I'm still on the search for in terms of "mysterious" or weird scents is something that resembles a summer night in a rural region, with industrial sites around, like big farms, greenhouses, factories. The cool and ozonic impression of the night air and the green facets of everything in bloom still in it, lush but subdued, slightly fresh and sweet, slightly musty and musky. Mowed lawns. And then the industrial edge of heated buildings, machinery and streets cooling off in the night; cement, tar, plastic, metal, animal feed, construction materials, rubber, fuel...
Summer night air has this amazing wideness, carrying in it distant scents natural and industrial alike, the heat of the day having led everything to move and mix wildly in the atmosphere and everything continuing to radiate as it cools off into the night. Not pungent though, all very airy and chilly.
I would love to try my own hand at creating something of the sort, I don't even think it would be all that complex conceptually: the popular ambroxan/hedione/Iso E + citrus combo is already ozonic and fresh but with depth or breadth to it, while also coming with some green/vegetal and industrial/synthetic qualities that would likely blend perfectly well with some actual industrial notes like rubber, metal, cement, as well as mid notes of violets and other greenery, foliage and flowers. Basically Sauvage with a slightly regulated citrus accord, without the spiciness, instead a dark/nightly green and petroly blast of cold derived from Fahrenheit, and industrial stuff in the base rather than woods or leather.

What notes evoke "night", anyway?

[Anonymous No.17088073]

>>17088038
>EN since it's currently my only one at home apart from a few samples, but I find it to be quite pleasant and I dont find it morbid or scary or gloomy in any way
You are completely right it is a pleasant modern airy veriver and transparent wood mens perfume. It's mass appealing and most people who smell it will find it pleasant.
The people that describe it as dark, brooding, gloomy etc are either greatly exaggerating or retarded, sometimes both.
Good leeson to learn early in perfume is that you can't trust anyone to describe any smell accurately and especially described any emotions of "vibes" attached to a frag.
I wear yatagan which i have seen described on fragrantica as "the smell of a caveman ravishing a woman in the woods" and "the smell of a squirrls nutsack standing 5 inches away from a beaver dam" in reality its a slightly bitter aromatic green perfume with a hint of very sweet castorem and a every so slightly dirty / mossy musk base. It's dated but beyond that it's nothing like i see it described online.

[Anonymous No.17088075]

Been wearing Detour Noir for a few days
The opening and early dry down aren't really doing it for me but I like the deeper dry down when more of the light vanilla comes through
One spray on my chest seems to last nearly 9 hours on my skin.
Might let it macerate a bit before wearing it again. Overall 7 - 7.5 / 10 enjoyment rating right now.

The bottle is the cheapest piece of shit I've ever seen. The branding/logo was literally already half rubbed away when I opened the packaging

[Anonymous No.17088080]

>>17088069
Get fire island, it should be perfect for you.
Or try Greenwich Village
If those are too much for you then check these, in order from my favorite to least fave
Gramercy Park
Eau de Noho (not nuits de noho)
Chez Bond (cool water clone)

[Anonymous No.17088092]

>>17088073
While I do respect the idea of perfumes as an art, and this aspect of trying to use smell combinations to create certain moods or mental images, which truthfully was one of the things that attracted to Encre Noire in the first place, the artistic vision of the perfume, I think you are right in saying that people get too absorbed into the intended 'vibe' of a perfume and it taints how they actually smell it, and it can perhaps even create notes or smells that are merely imagined. In a way that's really cool but it also makes searching for and researching perfumes of potential interest a lot harder, due to how certain notes that may not even be there will be perceived.
Speaking of research and whatnot, I was wonderring if you guys had any recommendations or advice for a newbie but well meaning in trying to learn and expand my horizons in regards to darker fragrances or fragrances similar to EN. Ive heard a lot of stuff about oud so I was wondering about that.

[Anonymous No.17088095]

>>17088075
How does it taste?
Maybe just get boss bottled and spray a lot to amp up the performance.
Unfortunately boss bottled intense is way too expensive now.
Here is the cheapest price per ml i could find for it
https://www.ebay.com/itm/165540381932

[Anonymous No.17088100]

I want to thank all the bros who red pilled me on Fahrenheit. This shit is fucking god tier, I recently bought a 100ml bottle and have been wearing it a few times a week. Have gotten multiple compliments from coworkers I run into at the office and even randoms whenever I go out. Fahrenheit is gonna be in my collection until the day that I day, it's that good.

[Anonymous No.17088103]

>>17088092
Oud is very fun, but it can get pretty stinky. If you want to see what it's all about buy a really small sample of oud oil and wear it on your wrist. It can really cover a massive range of smells from intense barnyard notes to fruits to deep mystical woods. The way it's used in mainstem perfumery is a bit weird. Lots of "oud" perfumes don't really smell like oud, others go way too hard on the medicinal disinfectant bandaid kind of odors and it can be pretty challenging.
Get .3 or a full ml of this and try it out
https://www.pureoudh.com/shop/oils/pure-oud-oil/2018-chanthaburi/
Or maybe this whichever sounds better
https://www.pureoudh.com/shop/oils/pure-oud-oil/koh-chang-oudh/
You don't need to get deep into wearing oud oils but it's quite the experience and a small swipe from the dipstick in the vial can project for hours off of your skin.
You should also look into some of the churchy incense frags. They could have the somber kick you are looking for
Cardinal James Heeley
Avignon Comme des Garcons
Casbah Robert Piguet
Lavs Filippo Sorcinelli
You also might be interested in
BeauFort London they do a lot of somewhat somber mellow fragrances

[Anonymous No.17088114]

>>17088100
Glad you enjoy it. It has that special twist that i love with that leather, while other fragrances are just too linear or simple structured.

[Anonymous No.17088116]

>>17088103
Thanks for the advice and recs.
One thing I wonder about oud is why Ive heard it described as sometimes feces or piss like, animalic alive secretions type thing, when it's a plant, I guess thats the wonder of life or something.
Something else Ive been wondering is if a kinda gloomy nerdy hermit guy could pull off some more exciting or sensual frags, I guess it all depends on attitude and how comfortable you feel, and obviously if I enjoy the smells to begin with. I guess so far Ive been gravitating towards woodsier darker colder stuff because I like them a lot but also because I feel like they subconsciously fit my kinda personality. Maybe having a perfume that is drastically different from a given personality could create an interesting effect, Im not sure.

[Anonymous No.17088118]

>>17088100
kek, they probably were being passive aggressive. it's a dated as fuck old man scent, but whatever helps you sleep at night

[Anonymous No.17088120]

>>17088073
>The people that describe it as dark, brooding, gloomy etc are either greatly exaggerating or retarded, sometimes both.

Or just normies that only buy fragrances like Layton or Sauvage. If they ever smell dark oily Oud, Figment or pure patchouli oil it would blow they mind how dark things can be.

[Anonymous No.17088121]

>>17088103
>deep mystical woods
any aoud frags for that feel?

[Anonymous No.17088123]

>>17088118
Cope and seethe

[Anonymous No.17088134]

>>17088080
Thanks for the recs, I'll get my nose on them this weekend.

[Anonymous No.17088178]

>>17087286
Avignon is actually quite nice on warmer days, provided you don't pour the entire bottle on your head like the fragrantica ostrich guy

[Anonymous No.17088190]

What does this symbol on cap mean?

[Anonymous No.17088204]

>>17088190
I think it's the Giorgio Armani logo

[Anonymous No.17088216]

>>17087828
LBF for the fotorealistic citruses. Profondo is okay but not as original and fresh IMO, more of a classic aromati freshie with less citrus.
>>17088047
Haven't found italian love yet. LBF is just fucking awesome and doesn't smell like BO at all. I wish my BO smelled like that.
>>17088100
you are welcome
>>17088118
post singature scent betaboy

[Anonymous No.17088220]

>put my frags in the fridge yesterday evening
>put on some cool water this morning
>smell feels fainter than when I stored it in my bathroom

[Anonymous No.17088224]

>>17088204
I see. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.17088244]

>>17087695
In that case - Tauer's L'Oudh (again).
Decaying woods overgrown with mushrooms at insane strength. More of a biological weapon than a fragrance.

>>17088075
It has insane power and at least my older bottle smells exactly like the Layton sample I bought. My newer bottle is slightly different in the opening but the drydown is still the same (Boss Bottled opening on the newer bottle). Accidentally filled a room with it after going noseblind to it, but got informed about because someone else came into the room after I had left and was wondering where that nice smell came from.

>>17088095
Detour Noir mogs BB, BBI and Layton. I paid 13,82€ for it. The mog is brutal.

[Anonymous No.17088247]

>>17088220
Scent molecules evaporate with heat, so the opening being lighter fresh out of the fridge is sensible. It should go back to normal on your skin quickly enough.

[Anonymous No.17088296]

>>17088071
Vie de Chateau Intense - Nicolai

>Despite the very green notes advertised, it starts off green fruity/aquatic (a light ozonic/water like note) but then this sweet start turn into a more "countryside" like fragrance... fresh, grassy, mossy, hay drying in the sun, with some understated citrus notes. Easy to wear, uplifting, refreshing. The rest is woods and some resins, to give some depth.

[Anonymous No.17088307]

>>17088296
Is there something like this but seaside rather than country

[Anonymous No.17088341]

>>17088307
Acqua di Sale
Sel Marin

[Anonymous No.17088431]

Anyone tried this?
Looks sick.

[Anonymous No.17088433]

Has anyone tried this? Looks sick.

[Anonymous No.17088444]

>>17088433
sounds cool too

[Anonymous No.17088455]

>>17085534
This. Ive never had more complimented fragrance than BI

[Anonymous No.17088463]

>>17086415
>I’m curious who could be behind this post
Go away faggot. No one cares about your made up chart.

[Anonymous No.17088465]

>>17085969
Because I can do whatever the fuck I want.

>>17088455
Maybe buy a second frag.

[Anonymous No.17088477]

>>17088073
I think you’re just mixing up mood and abstraction. EN is pretty „dark gloomy“ though. Reason is the cypress. Cypress has been used at funerals since ancient times. It’s been described as the plant of death by Greeks.
In my country, almost every graveyard is adorned with and smells like cypresses.
Pair this with the cold, somewhat metallic „pencil“ part of the vetiver and the wet soil smell and you’re definitely not getting a fun time fragrance.

[Anonymous No.17088501]

Best woody fragrance? Niche or designer doesn't matter, go for it.

[Anonymous No.17088520]

>>17088501
Iso e super

[Anonymous No.17088584]

>visit mom wearing ganymede
>mom outright asks what smells so good
>keeps talking about how it's the best scent I have ever used
>talks about how it reminds her of og fahrenhait
>keeps fawning over the scent during dinner
ganymede is THE fragrance to destroy milfs

[Anonymous No.17088594]

>>17088584
>calls his mom a milf
lmao

[Anonymous No.17088598]

>>17088584
Please, anon, tell me more about this "milf".

[Anonymous No.17088648]

>>17088584

[Anonymous No.17088743]

they don't sell this anywhere near me and I can't find samples. good enough to blind buy? also is the 80/90s version much better?

[Anonymous No.17088751]

>>17087180
>big titty

[Anonymous No.17088757]

>>17088743
do not blind buy that shit unless you like Kouros (aka piss). If you do, then yeah go right ahead.

[Anonymous No.17088767]

>>17088433
Looks fantastic for $20
This plus lapidus por homme sport for the summer will be an amzing cheapie combo.

[Anonymous No.17088775]

>>17088501
Just wearing oud oil
Buy a 3ml bottle on this and put on a swipe or two befpre you leave the house, 6+ hours of projection, qmazing rich complex woody scent

[Anonymous No.17088782]

>>17088743
I blind bought it and loved it but it's a risky buy, starts out with a blast of beaver scent glad that might put you off, after that its an amazing floral lleather that drys down to an opulent powdery musk.
The 80s version is very similar to the current version but with better performance, not sure about the 90s version, the 2000s version with the silver spray button is not as good as the current version it's a bit anemic and more feminine.

[Anonymous No.17088789]

>>17088584
>ganymede is THE fragrance to destroy milfs
I need more data than just your horny mom. Then I'll buy it.

[Anonymous No.17088795]

wtf is this shit.

the moment you stop smelling it can't be put into words.
it's the feeling of a long evening meeting a girl who is just perfect, not in the sense of perfect big titts and jerks worthy face, more like you true soulmate.
And you are an incel, doomer, looser call it what you will and she is just more than one could seriously dream of.

And then at the end of the evening, she kisses you and says goodbye.
You stand there, alone, watching her slowly disappear into the darkness, out of your life.
Like waking up from a dream, but the taste of her lips, the echo of her laughter, the faint lingering of her scent, says it was real.

It starts to rain, it doesn't bother you, you embrace him, because he hides the tears

[Anonymous No.17088807]

>>17088795
it's called being a fag

[Anonymous No.17088818]

>>17088795
Smells like shit.
The actually great one is velvet orchid.

[Anonymous No.17088828]

>Why yes I wear Joop!, how could you tell?

[Anonymous No.17088831]

>>17088795
>>17088807
>if /frag/ could be distilled down into two posts, this would be it
Bravo.

[Anonymous No.17088832]

>>17088789
go out and test it for yourself, you just might make the front page of pornhub

[Anonymous No.17088834]

>>17088795
>it starts to rain, it doesn't bother you, you embrace him, because he hides the tears
I'm confused by the end. Who's who?

[Anonymous No.17088840]

>>17088832
How old's your mom? Sounds like Bois Imperial would work better on younger milfs.

[Anonymous No.17088849]

>>17088840
43

[Anonymous No.17088873]

>>17087281
just got it and im kind of dissapointed its like mid . if this is what aventus alledgedly smells like then ill never undertand creedcels who pay 250-300 for that . im thinking of buying dior fahrenheit or Yves Saint Laurent La Nuit de L'Homme desu .Or do you guys know any fragrances with long longevity and a strong sillage?

[Anonymous No.17088879]

>>17088873
You never smelled real Aventus?
It’s a million times better.
I’ve had the clones, even the one deodorant spray, and they all smell like crippled, botched tries on the original. Not even in the same realm. Fucking disgusting. For the hundredth time: don’t fucking buy clones.
If you want something inspired by Aventus but cheaper then get the Montblanc one. It’s different but actually okay.

[Anonymous No.17088901]

Anyone here ever tried Clive Christian

[Anonymous No.17088927]

>>17088901
More like scam scamingson

[Anonymous No.17088929]

>>17088927
That's what I assumed but I was wondering if anyone ever sampled one

[Anonymous No.17088937]

>>17088929
The brand exists for people who have more money than they know what to do with to give them something to spend it on, if this doesn't appy to you don't bother.

[Anonymous No.17089111]

Unironically fell in love with Cool Water Intense due to it's performance and longevity. Holy shit, it blasts everyone for hours.
Applied it early in the morning with a lot of sprays, filled the gym 10 hours later. Wasn't even planned, I don't wear a frag to the gym. Can't believe I'm falling for a cheap sweet crowdpleaser.

[Anonymous No.17089130]

>>17089111
Nice, now get night dive and ocean extreme while you can still find bottles for decent prices, trust me, you will enjoy them

[Anonymous No.17089136]

>>17089130
Not him but how are these and are they different enough from CW to justify buying them

[Anonymous No.17089154]

>>17087281
You fell for the poorfag memes lol, “buy montblanc it’s the same! Buy cdnim it’s the same! Fuck creed bc I can’t afford it!!”

Montblanc is similar for the first minute then totally different after that. CDNIM is an actual clone, but make sure you never try Aventus if you want to be happy with CDNIM. CDNIM is too smoky and lacks the natural effortless smell of Aventus. It’s uncanny valley but not in a good way.

If I leaned more towards smoky and never smelled Aventus before I’d probably be ok with it, but I tried Aventus first, fell in love with it, tried CDNIM in a good faith attempt to save money and just went with the real deal instead of some Arabian knockoff

[Anonymous No.17089155]

>>17088901
I liked Cypress and Rock Rose from I think the Art Deco collection when I sampled them at a store
However I believe it was over $500 USD for a 50 ml or something insane like that

[Anonymous No.17089158]

>>17089154
Hilarious! Is it possible to smell more like Creed Aventus (2010) than actual current-formula Creed Aventus? If you ask Armaf, the answer is a resounding yes! Armaf Club de Nuit Intense Man (2015) is a piece of work, but let me explain. Without a doubt, 2010 batches of Aventus were heavily researched with gas chromatography and mass spectrometers to figure out exactly what makes them tick, then the formula was adjusted for cost and amped up in concentration (yet this is supposed to be an eau de toilette), making quite literally the perfect juice for self-absorbed “FragBros” everywhere looking to affirm their alpha status on the mostly indifferent world around them. To look at this another way, imagine if Jacques Bogart had created Aventus instead of Creed, shooting for brute force on a budget instead of pomposity and filigreed finesse. To make things even more comical, Club de Nuit Intense Man smells more like how the online fragrance community envisions Aventus than the real deal currently does, since this was based on the earliest and smokiest batches of Aventus before birch tar was nerfed by IFRA for being a potential carcinogen. In short, this is a loud and crude caricature of what Aventus once was, which is admittedly a lot more fun than wearing what Aventus currently is, costing literally less than a tenth of the price for something that actually does what most people are looking for Aventus to do. Not to disparage any true died-in-the-wool fans, but most people buying Aventus these days are not into the subtleties of Olivier Creed’s overtly-French blending or the changes in materials batch to batch, so this is a better fit from a pragmatic point of view. If the word “banger” as it applies to fragrances had a dictionary entry, this stuff would be in the accompanying picture.

[Anonymous No.17089160]

>he says good things about a frag he likes on the internet
Kek. I NEVER talk about my fav frag or even ones I like here. Why would I want others to smell like me? And why would you? These threads are basically just “yeah bro I love this scent you should get it too! That way your girl will think of me when she’s with you bro!” and “thanks bro!!! I totally wanna smell like you haha!!!”

[Anonymous No.17089161]

>>17089158
The opening is basically Jeremy Fragrance levels of bergamot smashed to your forehead with the power of Terry Crews from the older Old Spice commercials. People complain about lemon cleaner and what have you, but I’ve never smelled any cleaner that resembles this. I don’t really get the pineapple per se, but I do get blackcurrant, apple, and the sweetness of what’s here trying to impersonate the pineapple, so it’s like the artificial flavoring equivalent. The rakish salvo does eventually calm down, and you get tons of hedione high-cis laced with tons of the birch tar smoke and rose missing from current Aventus. This is the part where Club de Nuit Intense starts pulling ahead of the genuine article in terms of smelling like what people obsess over online versus what’s out there now. If you like “vintage” Aventus and don’t want to pay thousands for a single drop, this will get you done. From there, it’s a lot more accurate with vanilla, patchouli, white musk, and ambroxan but there’s a twist here as well: Club de Nuit Intense Man has a Middle-Eastern salty ambergris vibe. Anyone who’s smelled ambergris attars from the region Armaf hails from knows they have these pronounced marine facets normally hidden in “westernized” depictions of ambergris. This little bit of a Middle Eastern twist in the dry down also makes Club de Nuit Intense Man more than just a well-executed clone, but more on that later. You’ll get 12+ hours from this and projection is out of this world. I don’t need to tell you where to use this either, but I will tell you to mind the sprays, please. I caught a bus driver absolutely drenched in this stuff (meaning so was the bus), which is how I discovered the comical beauty of “CdNI”, because I simply had to know what he was wearing since I could not for the life of me even begin to escape it.

[Anonymous No.17089165]

>>17089161
As I said, the guys seriously buying the Creed marketing of noble and costly materials, painstaking hand-blending, and generations of hullabaloo will not appreciate this fragrance one bit, as it does one-armed push-ups in a rented Armani suit just like the type-A personalities it’s marketed towards. Yes, this is an absolute compliment magnet, but it’s designed to be from the ground up, and is a cost-benefit analysis of the Aventus hype in a bottle. Again, you’re taking the phenomenon of Aventus hype more so than the actual fragrance, the impression it leaves on the mind, and botting that with Armaf Club de Nuit Intense Man. The same could be said if someone tried to make impressions of what vintage enthusiasts remembered scents like Cosmair-produced Ralph Lauren Polo (1977) or first-run Yves Saint Laurent Kouros (1981) to be, but then “Bogarted” with science and material efficiency until it was a $30 fragrance instead of a $300 example on eBay. You’d have some people who didn’t care about the pedigree of the materials and just wanted to get close to what they remembered, or saw a recommendation but balked at the price and cared more about “results” than any elevated sense of going on a psychosomatic “fragrance journey”. I think that’s where this little clone house from the UAE fits into the scheme of things delivering something “better” than you remember, and since Club de Nuit Intense Man gives an 80’s drugstore powerhouse treatment of the biggest masculine niche fragrance of the 21st century, it’s on-the-nose presentation takes some cheek to enjoy if you’re not explicitly wearing it to elicit compliments. The heavy bottle also doubles as a slapjack. Oh what fun! Thumbs up.

[Anonymous No.17089166]

>>17085516

[Anonymous No.17089178]

>>17089130
Are they aquatics? Hate those. CWI is just sweet crowdpleaser stuff, but the performance right now is off the charts. That stuff will be reformulated soon, because it's too strong for the price.

[Anonymous No.17089182]

>>17089178
CWI isn't aquatic? CW (normal) is

[Anonymous No.17089184]

>>17088584
>in this episode anon nearly fucks his mom
thats the effay I know

[Anonymous No.17089188]

Thoughts on Nishane, what's their "aesthetic" if such a thing can be said of scents

[Anonymous No.17089193]

>>17089182
Cool Water Intense is very different, zero affiliation to CW other than the name.

[Anonymous No.17089200]

What is Kenzo PH like in its modern formulation? A woody aquatic that smells like a storm?

I’d really want a storm vibe frag and the $30ish bottle looks tempting

[Anonymous No.17089201]

>>17089165
I didn't believe this was an actual basenotes dragon review because it didn't name check enough other frags, but I looked and it is. Thumbs up.

[Anonymous No.17089209]

Name a more iconic duo. I'll wait.

[Anonymous No.17089223]

>>17088743
I actually think Antaeus is a great blind buy, as long as you like most of the listed notes. You'll smell sexy and expensive (it's a great deal at just over $100/100ml because it smells like it costs at least twice that, to me at least). Don't worry about the castoreum; it's there but it's not nearly as prominent as the rose and patchouli. To my nose the animalic facets of Kouros and Jules are much more intense than that of Antaeus.
I'm only familiar with the current Antaeus (2021 bottle) but hope to get my nose on the vintage at some point...

[Anonymous No.17089227]

>>17089136
Night dive is mostly just a stronger cool water, ocean exteme is different but still cool water ish

[Anonymous No.17089229]

>>17089227
I find CW actually has pretty decent longevity for the price
Can't speak for the projection but it doesn't seem too bad either

[Anonymous No.17089235]

>>17089200
yes, stormy, green, and slightly powdery.

ITS OK.

[Anonymous No.17089241]

>>17089166
Congrats for purchasing a highschooler scent

[Anonymous No.17089246]

>>17089166
>parfum
Nice

[Anonymous No.17089248]

>>17088584
I'm sorry, but there's literally only 5% that could resemble Fahrenheit. It's an aquatic citrus scent done million time.

[Anonymous No.17089276]

>>17088743
it's amazing, but I wouldn't blind buy it. I don't think it's as hardcore animalic as people make it out to be. I think it's definitely way more wearable than something like Gucci Guilty Absolute

[Anonymous No.17089277]

>>17089248
fahrenheit hasn't smelled like fahrenheit since the mid-late 90s when whatever that diffusive Violet molecule is called got banned.

[Anonymous No.17089281]

>>17089277
first kenzo now fahrenheit? you boomers need some grass to mow, stat.

[Anonymous No.17089292]

>>17089277
How's the vintage compared to the recent one?

[Anonymous No.17089305]

>>17089209
Me and your mother

[Anonymous No.17089307]

>>17089292
No idea, i blew my chance to get an vintage bottle for $80 last summer because im a retard.
But Luca Turin says every formula since then has sucked ass

[Anonymous No.17089311]

whats a good complimentary summer frag for chanel egoiste

[Anonymous No.17089313]

>>17089311
Eau sauvage

[Anonymous No.17089315]

>>17089307
Sad. I would most def hit the trigger on a vintage bottle. Fahrenheit is magical.

[Anonymous No.17089326]

New
>>17089318
>>17089318
>>17089318

[Anonymous No.17089327]

>>17089315
Some guy put up a few cases of ebay for $85ish dollars a bottle last year, it got posted about in the thread. There are still people trying to filip some from that batch for hundreds on ebay.