/wt/ Watch Thread

[Anonymous No.15991637]

Realistic and reasonable mid-tier watch discussion edition

This thread is about the appreciation of watches and their design, their history, and the engineering and materials that are required to make a functioning timepiece.

Guides:
> Poorfag guide: https://m.imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK
> Watch essentials 102: https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV (embed)
> Purchasing used watches: https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2 (embed)
> Purchasing straps: https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE (embed)

Should I buy this MVMT / DW / "minimalist" fashion watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

Should I buy this Armani / Michael Kors / mall watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/Sw1FsAn

"Suggest a watch for me."
> Your budget
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
> Wrist size or desired watch size

Old: >>15990738

[Anonymous No.15991643]

>>15991637
This would be a cool watch if they removed the stupid helium valve. I would honestly pay extra for this same watch with no valve.

[Anonymous No.15991648]

2nd for the best entry brand currently in existence

[Anonymous No.15991649]

>>15991625
>https://www.reddit.com/r/Watches/comments/cqrbkz/_/ewylmhy
>Got this a couple months ago on the metal strap, but really love the look of the rubber strap. Conventional wisdom typically advises buying on the metal and swapping to alternate materials later for less money. This is not the case so much with this strap. All together, with the metal inserts and the deployant is around $700. Yes, the steel bracelet is more expensive, but not by much. So if you like the look of the rubber strap on this, you save $100 or so on the front end buying the rubber over the steel. For me, I think it's easier to justify $800 for a steel band in my head than $700 for rubber.
>So with this, I got the rubber strap, but bought a Christopher Ward Bader deployant that was 1/4 the price and came with a really good quality leather band.
>Oh! And this rubber strap is a BITCH to put on. I spent hours trying to get it and even knicked the underside of the case with a pusher tool when it finally broke from overuse (its not bad, but annoying). Turns out, there's different spring bars for this strap, 1.6 diameter, not the 1.9 or whatever comes with the steel bracelet.

thanks based redditor. i think im good with the rubber strap variant

[Anonymous No.15991654]

>>15991637
>mid-tier watch discussion
It is shitposting tier at best

[Anonymous No.15991655]

>>15991433
who still watches watchfinder and co? the channel is such a shill i cant stand it anymore, its actually very annoying.

[Anonymous No.15991657]

>>15991654
Post your watch with timestamp
>>15991655
Watchfinder is literally a store so it shouldn't surprise you that they shill. I don't watch them because they're boring. I hate watch videos I'd rather just read a specs sheet and see some macro photos.

[Anonymous No.15991660]

>>15991655
who isn't a shill? tim from.watchbox is the most informative and pleasant watch reviewer on youtube but he's arguably a shill too

[Anonymous No.15991661]

>>15991637
>>15991637
can anyone familiar with that Graf Zeppelin shitter brand say they are worth the $300? i saw a quartz chronograph that might be cool

[Anonymous No.15991663]

>>15991643
I like the helium valve *but only on the model in the OP and the basic Planet Ocean.*

On the OP watch and the Planet Ocean, I think the helium valve provides a nice visual point of interest that balances the weight of the crown+shear guards, and it doesn't offend me because (in theory) it has a legitimate function. I don't like the helium valve on the reference that came after the OP one (with the wavy dial) because it's bigger and more conical.

I don't like the helium valve on the Seamaster Diver 300M Chronograph (there is just way too much clutter with four things protruding from the watch) and I REALLY don't like it on the GMT Planet Ocean because the bi-directional bezel means you wouldn't actually dive with that watch, meaning the helium valve would NEVER serve a legitimate function.

[Anonymous No.15991669]

>>15991655
If you ignore the commentary, they provide lots of macro shots of watches, which is useful for seeing the fine details of the watches they showcase.

[Anonymous No.15991670]

Just spent £25 on AliExpress for a sapphire crystal and a fluoro rubber tropical strap, spending £10 for a rubber strap from there feels like spending a lot more so hopefully it's worth the hype.
>>15991655
I watch for the pretty/nightmarish macro. I don't listen to the voiceover, it's pretentious shite.

[Anonymous No.15991673]

>>15991657
I'm talking about the level of discussion, not the level of watches
Lrn 2 reed

[Anonymous No.15991676]

>>15991655
>>15991660
Watchfinder hit its prime a few years ago; the more recent videos suck and yes, it's hard to take their videos seriously because their ownership imbues them with inherent bias. Also the "macro shot" thing is one of the worst things to happen to the discussion of watches and Watchfinder is at least a bit to blame for that.

Tim is the best watch YouTuber and while he still is a shill (because he is selling all the watches he talks about), he's not a shill for any specific brand(s) so you can trust him a bit more. Also once you watch a bunch of his videos you can start to pick up on his likes and dislikes even if he doesn't vocalize them specifically.

[Anonymous No.15991684]

>>15991655
His tone of voice is starting to get on my nerves. The gay song they always use sucks too. Basically it's just getting repetitive and he ends up repeating the same stories over and over.

[Anonymous No.15991718]

>>15991676
>Also the "macro shot" thing is one of the worst things to happen to the discussion of watches and Watchfinder is at least a bit to blame for that.

The macro shot thing is based for exposing a lot of Swiss HH brands for cutting major corners.

[Anonymous No.15991729]

>>15991661
theres a whole bunch of brands specialising in quartz chronograph shitters and their prices hovers around the $200-$500 range

personally i find their name kinda cringey and faux-heritage (like what even does the zeppelin backstory have to do with the watches...), but whatever, its $300, get it if you really like it. If i had to nitpick I would say $100-$200 is a fairer/more accurate price

also their mens watches are dinnerplate at 42mm, the ladies one (pic related) is a rarer 36mm for a chorograph

[Anonymous No.15991738]

>>15991637
To whoever on here was shilling the Escapement Time flieger off Ali Express, thank you. It's an absolute steal for $100. It may be a little thicc and the band is junk, but everything else is 10/10 - great lume, case finishing is beautiful, the onion crown. Just insane value for money.

[Anonymous No.15991740]

>>15991684

I mute it and watch the video jumping scenes for 1 minute to see the watches up close and thats it. I don't know any other way to watch those videos.

The moon landing video with the Omegas was great tho.

[Anonymous No.15991741]

>>15991637

[Anonymous No.15991747]

>>15991738
LOOMED UP

[Anonymous No.15991758]

>>15991718
I'm not going to reopen this argument except to say that the macro lenses that are used to make the Watchfinder videos are so powerful that they pick up pieces of dust tiny flaws that are probably literally micrometers in size. I personally don't care about such microscopic detail—obviously some people do but I don't.

However, I do care about the quality of discussions on forums, /wt/, youtube, blogs, etc., because I watch/participate in those things for my personal enjoyment. I find that whenever someone starts whipping out the macro photography to prove their point the conversation instantly falls to shit and people get extremely defensive on both sides. So on the whole I think macro photography has done more harm to the watch community than good.

[Anonymous No.15991760]

>>15991729
>Calendar watch
>Chronograph

[Anonymous No.15991764]

>>15991729
>$200-$500 range
in that range the only logical choiche would be unironically a smart watch

[Anonymous No.15991766]

>>15991706
>How the fuck is transportation a hobby?
he likes buses (and trains to a lesser extent)
he takes photos of buses
he spends his time catching buses and knows all the routes and numbers
so hes an autist like us but instead of watches its buses

our romantic dates together are spent riding various buses around the city (im not complaining, its very economical)

>Hamilton Khaki Field
the auto one looks nice, very different from the mech handwind
might be slightly a tad big for him, but ill keep it in mind

[Anonymous No.15991773]

>>15991738
I wish there was a polished version of this. I’m. It a big fan of brushed watches.

[Anonymous No.15991775]

>>15991764
>a smartwatch
>tech useless in 3 years
>logical choice

plenty of good nh35 microshitters in that range
and you can get top orients for $500 give or take, equivalent to $1000 seikos

[Anonymous No.15991784]

>>15991775
yes but having a phone call thru your watch is kino

[Anonymous No.15991786]

Does an alternative to the Stowa Marine 36 with a central seconds even exist?
All other options are either larger in diameter, or have a small seconds, or the dial isnt quite right. Tisell, LaCo, Tourby, Kemmner.

Im looking for a modern take on the classic RAF Omega/Longines, the Stowa has it, only the case has classic lugs.
Long jeans fucked up with the diameter, dial, WR and price.

[Anonymous No.15991787]

My Citizen PMD56-2592 finally came in from Japan.

Second hand hits the markers dead on. This H100 movement seems to have a lot less backlash in the second hand than normal quartz movements too. Very good AR on the crystal, nice, thick, lume application on the numerals gives them a raised, textured feeling sort of like pad printing. Watch is extremely light as it's all titanium.

Interesting feature about the H100 movement is that it has automatic and manual fine correction for hand alignment, including the second hand, so if it would have come misaligned I probably could have fixed it directly on the watch itself.

Downsides are that the movement only syncs on the Japanese frequency so you need an emulator app and a speaker to get it to radio sync, and the end link to lug fit isn't great. I think the trade-offs are worth it for the price.

[Anonymous No.15991788]

>>15991660
Archie

[Anonymous No.15991792]

>>15991787
Forgot to mention that the watch is 39.5mm diameter, 20mm lug spacing, and lug-to-lug is a very wristlet friendly 45mm.

[Anonymous No.15991793]

>>15991660
Paul Thorpe is very interesting. He’s a retired watch dealer who almost exclusively makes videos on Rolex. He has had multiple ADs and former employees on spilling the beans about the shady business practices of Rolex, preferred client lists, grey market flippers etc. If you’re interested in Rolex at all you should watch some of his interviews with other dealers. It’s crazy what people get up to in the watch industry.

[Anonymous No.15991797]

>>15991793
I can't take him seriously after his take on that australian scammer

[Anonymous No.15991798]

>>15991797
Wasn't his take just "we don't know what happened so let's just wait and see since the allegations are insane if true?" That's not a bad take really, he clearly had not read everything.

[Anonymous No.15991813]

>>15991660
The problem is that unless you work at somewhere like Watchbox or Luxury Bazaar, they are the two best btw, you are not going to have access to enough watches to produce good content week after week. Sure their channels are essentially advertising but as long as you pick the best ones you see and learn about a lot of watches you would never normally see.

[Anonymous No.15991824]

Reminder that Citizen has better external finishing than PP.

[Anonymous No.15991826]

is this watch beautiful, bold, daring, or ghastly? i honestly think i cant decide

(no, you do *not* want to google the size)

[Anonymous No.15991830]

>>15991660
>tim from.watchbox is the most informative and pleasant watch reviewer on youtube but he's arguably a shill too

>I can recommend this forty-seven millimeter Panerai for a wrist as small as nine-and-a-half centimeters.

[Anonymous No.15991833]

>>15991830
kek. i think he's just coping since he's a turbo wristlet

[Anonymous No.15991834]

>>15991826
That watch is probably like 50mm, I can actually smell it. I think it looks cool, Xbox colors are a bold choice and the design is well executed. Just too big

[Anonymous No.15991836]

>>15991670
>a fluoro rubber tropical strap,
Good choice, the double keeper floro rubber tropical straps appear to be the best tropical straps on ali and they have been really well reviewed.

[Anonymous No.15991837]

>>15991655
I don’t trust any YouTube channel that also runs a store, they always end up shilling
CigarsDaily is especially terrible about this

[Anonymous No.15991840]

>>15991712
It would be a better and more methodologically sound exercise to look at Rolex’s vs. an independent watchmaker’s margins, including obviously the indie watchmaker’s reasonable labour costs.

[Anonymous No.15991846]

>>15991834
>That watch is probably like 50mm, I can actually smell it.
wow!!
you are very close, its 48mm
>t. I think it looks cool, Xbox colors are a bold choice and the design is well executed.
yes
it looks so damn /citizen/, like all aspects of the brand
i can never wear something like this but im enthralled

[Anonymous No.15991847]

>>15991840
*expressed in the form of a percentage

[Anonymous No.15991849]

>>15991826
I thought I recognized it.

[Anonymous No.15991853]

>>15991786
>Does an alternative to the Stowa Marine 36 with a central seconds even exist?
Laco makes this navy 36, it's not 1uite what you are looking for but it's close.

[Anonymous No.15991861]

>>15991787
It's so fucking good anon, i love it, it's just about perfect but the radio only syncing to japan time kills it for me, enjoy it tho, it fits you perfectly.

[Anonymous No.15991867]

>>15991797
His biggest take in that video was that he was happy he isint a watch dealer anymore and people selling fakes fucks it up for everyone. He also said he couldn't be assed to spend hours reading forum posts but that it sounded like the allegations were true.

[Anonymous No.15991868]

>>15991824
This but unironically.

[Anonymous No.15991873]

>>15991787
Serious question anon, can you give the watch head a quick sniff and tell me if it smells of anything. I'm wondering if Ti watches smell different from stainless ones.

[Anonymous No.15991876]

are /tacticool/ watches actually cool?

[Anonymous No.15991880]

>>15991758
>I personally don't care about such microscopic detail
There's nothing microscopic about shitty hand edges.

[Anonymous No.15991881]

>>15991861
That's a very solvable problem these days, since there are emulators for the japanese frequency now.

I'm already sketching out plans to make a watch box with a speaker of some kind embedded in it hooked up to a raspberry pi that will let the watch auto-sync nightly without manual intervention.

>>15991873
Smells like freshly machined metal, if that makes any sense.

[Anonymous No.15991886]

>>15991876
only to people who are into that look, so not many.

[Anonymous No.15991889]

>>15991876
No. And furthermore if you actually wanted to be full on tacticool, you would have the humble plastic AE1200 and not an $80 special G-Shock.
>less than $20 so you don't have to worry about it being destroyed
>larger, clearer readout
>able to track 4 time zones
>buttons easier to press with gloves on
>able to fit it on more straps without adapters
>ABLE TO TURN BUTTON NOISES OFF

[Anonymous No.15991892]

>>15991793
Paul Thorpe's stolen GMT Master saga convinced me to never buy a Rolex watch and I'm now actively disgusted by anyone who owns one.

[Anonymous No.15991897]

>>15991889
>ABLE TO TURN BUTTON NOISES OFF
you cant turn the noises off on a gshock?
for real...?
is this just with older models or what

[Anonymous No.15991903]

>>15991897
On the regular 5600 models, you can't. They are extraordinarily basic in function. On the solar and bluetooth ones you can. The AE1200 is an amazing value because you can turn the button noise off. It has the same features as Casios 5x the price, all that is missing is bluetooth/solar/radio which are unimportant.

[Anonymous No.15991907]

>>15991889
At least a third of the guys in my platoon wore plain, old G-Shock DW-5600-E squares.

[Anonymous No.15991909]

>>15991907
I know, when I went to basic training everyone wore a square or a non-GShock Casio. I'm just saying that that crap with bull bars and a compass is less tactical than a regular AE1200. An AE1200 is a much more purpose-driven watch if you care about being tactical, real tactical, not tacticool.

[Anonymous No.15991913]

>>15991892
qrd?

[Anonymous No.15991917]

>>15991881
>Smells like freshly machined metal
Thanks anon!

[Anonymous No.15991918]

>>15991880
If you’re able to clearly distinguish small flaws on the edge of a watch hand that is probably literally 1/10th of a millimetre in height then that’s great for you but I’m unable to do so.

[Anonymous No.15991920]

pick my date night shitter boys

[Anonymous No.15991921]

>>15991881
>I'm already sketching out plans to make a watch box with a speaker of some kind embedded in it hooked up to a raspberry pi that will let the watch auto-sync nightly without manual intervention.
Please post your progress and results if you put something like this together. There are a few watches that i really like that i decided not to go for because they only sync in japan and china.

[Anonymous No.15991922]

>>15991913
>he gets mugged in 2015 and his GMT pepsi is stolen
>cops don't make any progress but eventually the watch turns up in italy because a dude bought it thinking it was legit and took it in for servicing
>rolex refuses to communicate with police saying that the police have to deal with a 3rd party contractor
>contractor does nothing but stall and he's never going to get the watch back, they stall for over a year
>he is able to prove it is stolen with documentation and stuff
>rolex still won't give it to him even though they agree it's stolen, stop communicating with police
>decide to give the watch to nobody, tells him and the italian buyer to get fucked and the watch will be given to their lawyers and now he has to talk to the lawyers
>lawyers unresponsive and keep saying that the ownership of the watch is now in debate
>he gives up and says the italian guy is also a victim and should just be given the watch since he paid for it thinking it was legit too
>rolex doesn't give it to the italian either lol
It's just on some lawyer's wrist now.

[Anonymous No.15991923]

>>15991920
Blue, red is too aggressive unless you know she is DTF and it's a one and done tinder date kinda night.

[Anonymous No.15991928]

>>15991920
A better question is why would you think either would impress a girl? Do yourself a favour and wear neither.

[Anonymous No.15991930]

>>15991920
red, assertive and passionate
blue is safer but safe choices are boring

[Anonymous No.15991932]

>>15991928
if a girl is only impressed by expensive luxury watches shes not worth keeping. at all.

[Anonymous No.15991934]

>>15991922
Just for my own understanding: what did he want Rolex to do? And how does this go with other brands that aren't Rolex?

[Anonymous No.15991937]

>>15991934
>what did he want Rolex to do?
To give him back his watch or give him another one since he could definitively prove that it was stolen, and that the watch they recovered was that same watch, which they agreed it was.
>And how does this go with other brands that aren't Rolex?
Other brands would return to him the watch.

[Anonymous No.15991940]

>>15991922
>It's just on some lawyer's wrist now.
like pottery

[Anonymous No.15991941]

>>15991932
She doesn't have to be impressed but she could be horrified.

[Anonymous No.15991942]

How long do we have to wait for the submariner to return to its classic proportions?

[Anonymous No.15991946]

>>15991942
never gonna happen. conservative companies like Rolex also tend to be extremely stubborn. When a design is left in the past, it is left behind permanently. To bring it back is to admit that they should never have changed in the first place.

[Anonymous No.15991947]

>>15991922
That's pretty shitty and you would expect more from them.

[Anonymous No.15991949]

>>15991922
lmao rolex owners are literally cucks

[Anonymous No.15991950]

>>15991922
He could resolve this easily buy suing rolex and the current owner in whatever the Australian version of small claims court is. Rolex just doesn't want to be in the position of determining if goods are stolen and returning them to their rightful owners, too many opportunities for scammers to sell watches and then use the papers to demand rolex return them.
This is why you should never buy watches from Italy.

[Anonymous No.15991951]

>>15991937
Oh wait the dude in Italy bought it in a legit Rolex AD/store? That's really scummy then, even for Italian standards.

[Anonymous No.15991952]

>>15991918
You can say that about a lot of things.
Can you really tell a black polished 2mm wide screw head from a regularly polished one?

That's what high horology is all about, all the little tiny details. Even in places you can hardly see, or even see at all; like the dial side of the movement.

[Anonymous No.15991953]

>>15991941
its a shiny watch and thats good enough

girls dont know jack shit about watches, have you seen the fashion olivia burton garbage 99.99% of women buy

[Anonymous No.15991954]

>>15991951
brought it in for service I mean

[Anonymous No.15991957]

>>15991922
> rolex still won't give it to him even though they agree it's stolen
which is the correct thing to do because then it's a criminal matter and Rolex would be screwed if they turn it over before any police case if closed.

> ... lawyer bullshit ...
honestly that sounds more like some scummy Italian lawyer being a cunt and not the fault of Rolex.

[Anonymous No.15991959]

>>15991942

[Anonymous No.15991960]

>>15991951
The dude in Italy bought it from someone else, probably. Then he brought it in for service because he did not know it was stolen and it was seized as stolen. It is hard to say how the Italian obtained it because Rolex will not tell him who the other guy is so he can find out and work something out. Eventually he just said "I relinquish my claim of ownership because the Italian guy bought the Rolex thinking it was legit and I'd rather he just have it" but Rolex didn't give it to that guy either.

[Anonymous No.15991963]

>>15991922
Is there ANY part of Italian society that’s not massively corrupt or dysfunctional?

[Anonymous No.15991964]

>>15991957
If the watch was stolen, and there is proof it was stolen, and they now have the watch, and they agree it was stolen, they should give the watch back to Paul or offer him another GMT Master. Rolex already made money and this would be good publicity for them. Instead they were being huge faggots about it and decided to just give the watch to nobody.

[Anonymous No.15991970]

>>15991964
> they should give the watch back to Paul
not if criminal proceedings are in progress

> or offer him another GMT Master
no company would give someone a replacement if theirs was stolen.

[Anonymous No.15991971]

>>15991920
They both scream autism so I don’t like your odds.

[Anonymous No.15991974]

>>15991970
OK Rolex simp

[Anonymous No.15991979]

>>15991963
No, and Italian culture has a strange relationship with corruption. It's not 100% negative. They kind of respect someone who is able to get away with corrupt shit as long as they're not hurting the people, generally, even if specific people are hurt.

[Anonymous No.15991981]

Not that I’m really in the market for an “homage” submariner but I honestly would buy one if the dial just had no branding at all instead of their crappy THIS IS A KNOCKOFF logo

[Anonymous No.15991985]

>>15991922
Yeah because moving stolen goods past a border with an ongoing criminal investigation is exactly what a good company will do for you.

[Anonymous No.15991988]

>>15991970
>not if criminal proceedings are in progress
I doubt they are. I find the fact you are defending Rolex here extremely suspicious. Giving the watch to neither Paul nor the Italian is the worst possible action. It seems much more likely that the authorities are just dragging their feet and keeping the watch. I mean the watch was stolen in 2015. An investigation isn’t going to go anywhere.

[Anonymous No.15991991]

>>15991942
Never, the old design is not flashy enough. I think they will increase the size to 44mm instead in the next revision.

[Anonymous No.15991992]

>>15991922
Just go on the waitlist again goy

[Anonymous No.15991993]

>>15991981
there are sterile submariners aplenty but they all look odd without the logo

anyhow, you can pay san martin to do a custom logo and custom text for you.

[Anonymous No.15991999]

>>15991922
>rolex refuses to communicate with police saying that the police have to deal with a 3rd party contractor
>contractor does nothing but stall and he's never going to get the watch back, they stall for over a year
What a joke. Doesn’t Rolex have some sort of loss prevention department for just this type of situation? If I was Paul I would never buy Rolex again after this bullshit.

[Anonymous No.15992001]

>>15991993
No shit? well in that case

[Anonymous No.15992002]

>DX3 Plus™ Pro-Guard - Black w/ Hi-Viz™ Yellow dial - (#286 Black w/ Hi-Viz™ Yellow dash band) (#304 Yellow Pro-Guard™)

>The DX3® Plus PRO-GUARD™ offers classic design, a U.S. Patented durable fiber reinforced poly-resin case and a long list of performance features...
>Including the U.S. Patented Pro-Guard™ protective case cover that provides additional shock, impact and scratch resistance..

>on bargin bin price of $75

what does /wt/ think

[Anonymous No.15992003]

>>15991876
that looks like my watch, without the compass. I wear it all the time I surf. Love it

[Anonymous No.15992004]

>>15991999
Yes, he tried to contact them and they would not help him, in fact they intentionally would not communicate with him saying that it was internal only and he had no access to it as a customer

[Anonymous No.15992008]

>>15992002
gives away your position

[Anonymous No.15992009]

>>15992004
>loss prevention department
>doesn’t actually help customers who lost their watch
Fucking KEK, my opinion of Rolex gets lower by the day

[Anonymous No.15992010]

>>15992001
yes, its not even expensive or anything
some anon here has one with the words hentai and anime pussy on it iirc

[Anonymous No.15992019]

>>15991993
Is that modded? Or does San Martin have a yachtmaster I didn't know about?

[Anonymous No.15992020]

>>15992009
His statement on this matter is that he likes Rolex watches, but he dislikes Rolex, the company. Frankly after following this I decided to never buy a Rolex.

[Anonymous No.15992021]

>>15992019
no its just a random pic i got off google
i dont know where its actually from
but aliexpess has all sorts of configurations if you dig deep enough

[Anonymous No.15992022]

>>15991988
I've had stuff stolen before, not watches, and have seen what happens. As far as I can tell from that story Rolex didn't do much wrong but the lawyers were dicks.

[Anonymous No.15992036]

>>15992002
Might have copped if it was DeWalt or CAT.

[Anonymous No.15992037]

>>15991836
It's one of these, unfortunately I wanted an 18mm strap and the traditional design tropics only seem to come in bigger sizes. It's from the biggest seller of rubber straps on Ali so hopefully it's still the same material.

[Anonymous No.15992040]

my first decent watch. also my only watch for 3 years. i don't think i will be able to buy any other for a long time...

[Anonymous No.15992042]

Rolex
>Stagnant designs
>Good but not exceptional technology
>Contemptible relationship with ADs which translates to shitty customer experience
>False scarcity
>Universal new-money scumbag symbol
>Not particularly good history
>Is run as a "charity" as a tax shelter for a small Swiss cabal

Why do you want a Rolex, /wt/?

[Anonymous No.15992045]

>>15992042
https://youtu.be/3uhtOudQfaI

[Anonymous No.15992046]

>>15992042
I don't, most of their products are mechanical garbage.

[Anonymous No.15992047]

>>15991876
What’s the point of those little cages on it?

[Anonymous No.15992052]

>>15992045
>fat wop
says it all

[Anonymous No.15992054]

>>15992036
>CAT
caterpillar actually has a watch line.
its huge ~45mm quartz shitters but not expensive at all.
>>15992042
but i dont?
their designs do nothing for me. Maybe the vintage air king but thats about it
also i associate it with poor attitude boomers so its not a very pleasant thing

>>15992047
to act as a buffer for the bezel/crystal if you fall and scrape the watch along the floor or something

[Anonymous No.15992059]

>Started my first ever part-time like 6 months ago, saved most of my money.
>Have been looking at watches basically since I started, finally have enough for something good.

https://www.vintage-portfolio.com/shop/omega/seamaster/pre-omega-seamaster-de-ville-automatic-steel/

Is this a retarded purchase? The back is fucked and I can't tell if I'm being an autist by considering it. This would be a fat purchase for me and I don't want to mess up. The watch is sexy though. Give opinion please.

Also if this is a shit purchase, what would be a better one in that DeVille style? Doesn't have to be Omega but below €1500.

[Anonymous No.15992069]

>>15991999
Being complete assholes towards paying customers is part of Rolex image
Theyre basically saying "Yeah we know we are assholes, but we can get away with it because you would do anything to get your hands on a Rolex. Now get on your knees and open your mouth!"

[Anonymous No.15992077]

What's the best current production Omega model?

>Hard mode: no calibre 321

[Anonymous No.15992090]

>>15991655
I noticed they got significantly worse after being bought by the Richemont group. The simping for Richemont owmed bramds went through the roof. It wasnt even remotely subtle.

[Anonymous No.15992094]

>>15992077
1861 Moonwatch Hesalite

[Anonymous No.15992095]

>>15992042
Maybe them pathing the way for wrist watches has to do with it.

[Anonymous No.15992098]

>>15992094
>current production
The 3861 is leaps and bounds better than the 1861 anyway

[Anonymous No.15992105]

>>15992095
lmao, seikos did a million times more to 'path the way for watches' than rolex did
even brands like tissot, longines did more than rolex
dont fall for the marketing romantism like they are some sort of jesus

[Anonymous No.15992108]

>>15992045
he. looks. like. a. fucking. THUMB

he should step aside and let his wine aunt hipster sidekick talk

[Anonymous No.15992111]

>>15991741
What’s this?
Looks nice.

[Anonymous No.15992112]

>>15992045
>guy who runs a store selling 2nd hand luxury watches waxing poetry about rolex

really gets my noggin joggin

[Anonymous No.15992117]

>>15991741
>What time is it?
Uh 6...ish.

[Anonymous No.15992125]

>>15992042
What's false about their scarcity? They can't produce an endless amount of watches and they are already making a gigantic amount of them. Suffering from success really.

[Anonymous No.15992126]

>>15992059
>Is this a retarded purchase?
Yes. Do not fuck around with vintage watches unless you are willing to invest the time researching models you are interested until you can independently evaluate their condition, originality and price or you become an easy mark to get ripped off.

Also, I would be very wary of any vintage Omega listing not showing a movement shot and the ref on the inside of the caseback in the listing. They claim the watch was serviced in 2020 and yet they couldn't be bothered to try to find out or list the details of what movement it has, what ref the model is, or take pics. All of these are things that make it harder for you to evaluate whether this listing is a reasonable risk.

There are plenty of vintage Omega's in decent condition for under 1000 Euro, but you have to know what you are looking for.

[Anonymous No.15992133]

>>15992125
>They can't produce an endless amount of watches and they are already making a gigantic amount of them.
And then they release 2 or 3 of each of the key sports watches to an AD per year, who are increasingly incentivized to unload them onto the grey market than sell them to actual customers

[Anonymous No.15992141]

>>15992077
3861 Moonwatch because it adds a free sprung balance and METAS accuracy to the Moonwatch, as well a better bracelet than the old model.

[Anonymous No.15992142]

Looking for a good value smaller watch, would you say any of these are good?

https://www.jomashop.com/certina-watch-c006-407-11-058-00.html

https://www.jomashop.com/tissot-watch-t065-407-11-031-00.html

https://www.jomashop.com/tissot-watch-t0659301105100.html

https://www.jomashop.com/tissot-watch-t0354071103101.html

The Certina looks nice. Not sure if there are any big differences between the Tissots. Are these sale price any good by the way or are these watches about that much always anyways?

[Anonymous No.15992143]

>>15992125
A regular company would upscale their production if demand is 50 times higher than supply. Rolex doesnt do this, which is of course a smart move because this way they were able to increase prices by almost 100% in just 10 years. But this business practice IS the literal definition of false scarcity.

[Anonymous No.15992145]

>>15992126
I started looking at vintage Omegas on ebay and the amount of watches with either no ref number on the listing, no movement shot, no note if it even works, and so on is very discouraging. Might as well buy a new watch.

[Anonymous No.15992146]

>>15992037
Yeah it should be the same stuff. It looks like it comes in all thr exact same colors so it's probably made by the same factory. Yeah finding modern 18mm tropics is tough.

[Anonymous No.15992150]

>>15992141
And a coaxial escapement! Hesalite or sapphire?

[Anonymous No.15992173]

>>15992142
I would prefer the certina or the first and second tissot because they both have the classic 28,000 bph eta movements and not the newer 21000 bph powermatic 80 movments. Those prices are pretty decent for what you get.

[Anonymous No.15992176]

high horology

[Anonymous No.15992180]

>>15992150
Hesalite because I hate crystal reflections. I usually avoid sapphire cyrstals on dark dials unless they have very good A/R coatings.

[Anonymous No.15992195]

>>15992180
the hesalite does have a nice warm look to it honestly I know thats what all the basedboys say but its true

[Anonymous No.15992200]

>~$1000
>anything except a diver
>automatic or hand wound
>bronze case, acrylic crystal
>strap doesn't matter but I will probably put it on leather
><=40mm
anyone have suggestions?

[Anonymous No.15992225]

>>15992045
Fuck I hate this fat wog thumb looking cunt

[Anonymous No.15992232]

Before the pivot to luxury, were watches regarded kind of like how we think of laptops today?

[Anonymous No.15992233]

>>15992225
He's not wrong though.

[Anonymous No.15992239]

>>15992232
Sort of, but closer to how we think of smartphones.

[Anonymous No.15992253]

>>15992180
"Boxed sapphire" always looks dumb too, doesn't have the nice curvature you get with a domed acrylic.

[Anonymous No.15992264]

>>15992233
>implying I can watch any more than 30 seconds of the potato without turning it off

[Anonymous No.15992275]

To anyone that likes at least one luxury brand and complains a lot about other brands on these threads: would you actually not like or wear a watch from one of those brands if you were gifted it? Or is it all just shitposting?

Common complaints:
PP finishing
>Tag
GS being japanese and not european, designs
Nomos lugs, design
Omega, cuckaxial, old ones looked better
ROLEX ROLEX ROLEX ROLEX, cyclops
ALS too big

[Anonymous No.15992292]

>>15992275
Depends on the watch fren. I think I would rarely wear an oris, breitling or iwc if I was gifted one. I'd still keep it and wear it occasionally

[Anonymous No.15992297]

>>15992275
>Patek
I'd sell it and buy a Lange.

>TAG
I'd sell it and buy literally anything else.

>Nomos
None of the designs are quite my cup of tea but I respect what they do for the prices they charge. I'd probably keep one I got gifted unless it was a model I really didn't like.

>Omega
I'd sell it and buy something I like better unless it was a 3861 Moonwatch or a 321 Ed White.

>Rolex
if it was an OP 39 white dial I'd probably keep it, otherwise I'd sell as I prefer their pre maxicase models universally.

>GS
I like Grand Seiko so I'd keep it unless it was a particular model I didn't like, in which case I'd sell and get a GS I do like.

[Anonymous No.15992303]

>>15991942
desu i like the new bezel and crownguards much more now. shame that they started to write whole essays on the dial.

[Anonymous No.15992305]

>>15992275
If someone I loved gave me a watch I would wear it no matter the brand. I think anyone who answers any differently is emotionally stunted

[Anonymous No.15992312]

>>15992275
I would happily wear any watch gifted to me of those brands. Even TAG as long as it's a modern Carrera or Monaco

[Anonymous No.15992313]

>>15992305
this. like 90% of the watches in my collection are watches i would not have bought myself. i wear them because i love the people who gave them to me and smile everytime i check the time. it also makes them very happy.

[Anonymous No.15992318]

>>15992275
>Common complaints:
>PP finishing
no one complains about this outside of the one or two samefagging GS posters
>>Tag
there are a few tag watches that are widely accepted as good but it will probably be a decade before their brand image even a bit close to being restored
>GS being japanese and not european, designs
no one really complains about them being japanese. GS is cool, it's the GS posters who are insufferable
>Nomos lugs, design
nomos is trash
>Omega, cuckaxial, old ones looked better
what does cuckaxial even mean?
>ROLEX ROLEX ROLEX ROLEX, cyclops
anyone who wears a rolex deserves to sit on a pin
>ALS too big
never seen this complaint in /wt/

[Anonymous No.15992319]

>>15992305
I think this is the normal response

[Anonymous No.15992321]

>>15992313
i realized the other day that i've never bought myself a watch; they were all gifts or were passed down to me from previous generations. as fun as it is to fuck around on /wt/ the reality is that it's the stories that make the watches.

I have a mall watch I never would have bought myself but I keep in my collection and wear regularly because, like you said, I love the person who gave it to me, it makes me happy, and it makes them happy.

[Anonymous No.15992335]

>>15992305
The only person that loves me is my mom

[Anonymous No.15992359]

>>15991747
>>15991738
/g/ fag here from chink shit general, mine arrived today. It's ridiculous value for the money.

[Anonymous No.15992361]

>>15992305
My wife gave me a Skagen when we were first dating. I didn’t toss it but it sits unloved at the bottom of the sock drawer.

[Anonymous No.15992366]

>>15992318
>there are a few tag watches that are widely accepted as good but it will probably be a decade before their brand image even a bit close to being restored
TAG Heuer is now where Omega was in the early 90s.

[Anonymous No.15992369]

>>15991942
well considering the new design cycle is 10 - 20 years, possibly for the 100 year?

early 2030's - next model
2053 - 100 year anniversary model

[Anonymous No.15992383]

>>15992275
>Patek
I don't really wear dress watches
>Tag Heuer
sold in the same stores as Movado, that's a bad sign
>Grand Seiko
Well built, hideously designed, annoying fanbase
>Nomos
Cheap and great use of color, but I don't want one
>Omega
All their new watches are way too fucking thick
>Rolex
Speaking of annoying fanbase. These come with too much baggage. Fans are insufferable, haters are even worse
>Lange
Again, I don't really wear dress watches

[Anonymous No.15992384]

>>15992361
That’s sad

[Anonymous No.15992388]

>>15992200
Something from Helson? They might have a couple that aren't divers.

[Anonymous No.15992389]

>>15992305
>If someone I loved gave me a watch I would wear it no matter the brand.
Someone I love very much gave me a Stowa. I don't wear it. I've tried to like it, but it truly is a shitter.

[Anonymous No.15992391]

>>15992361
do you ever wear it around her? does she know you hate it

[Anonymous No.15992392]

>>15992383
>Omega
At least they’re taking certain strides to curb the thickness. The latest moon watch is thinner than the previous reference and the Speedmaster Racing is (relatively) thin all things considered. Hopefully the wave has created on the thickness point because Omega’s designs are really good otherwise and their build quality and finishing is great

[Anonymous No.15992394]

>>15992359
Looks good anon, i can't believe a $100 chinkshit watch has real heat blued hands, those are a $100 optional markup on some of the german Mar pilots watches.

[Anonymous No.15992395]

>>15992366
Yes; they’re one or two watch designs away from a Renaissance

[Anonymous No.15992396]

>>15992392
*crested

[Anonymous No.15992399]

>>15992305
Exactly. Was talking to a serious collector on socials and sent him a pic of the Fossil I still have that my mom gave me, turns out that same watch was his first watch as well and he still has it and wears it because it was a gift. Gonna put a new battery in and wear it with pride.

[Anonymous No.15992408]

>>15992394
Next week the second chink watch arrives (not from Ali though) - the bauhas nomos lookalike, I'll post it too.

[Anonymous No.15992411]

Felt some magic when wearing this thing at the AD too bad I'm not a yuppie

[Anonymous No.15992417]

>>15992275
I’d wear something from every brand perhaps with the exception of TAG, they don’t make a single watch I like. Ultimately the specific watch model matters a lot. You couldn’t pay me to wear that hideous GS chronograph that gets memed on hard around here, but I would happily wear a more classical spring drive.

[Anonymous No.15992425]

>>15992408
Thr one from good-stuffs? Those are fantastic too from what I've heard. Good taste anon.

[Anonymous No.15992427]

>>15992143
If they did that they wouldn't be desirable and we wouldn't bother talking about them. What you are describing is literally omega and half this thread considers them shitters.

[Anonymous No.15992429]

>>15992425
Yep, exactly

[Anonymous No.15992430]

>>15992417
>TAG, they don’t make a single watch I like.
Not even the properly sized Carrara reissues they have done?

[Anonymous No.15992439]

>>15992383
What's in your collection fren?

[Anonymous No.15992445]

>>15992439
Rolex. DJ and pre-39 Explorer
Omega. Speedmaster Pro, 1967 Seamaster, Seamaster Electric Blue, new Seamaster Diver, Globemaster, old Constellation
Panerai Luminor (a regrettable purchase, but they were hot back then and I kind of like it)
Nomos Ahoi that I picked up in trade
And then a fuckton of G-Shocks

[Anonymous No.15992448]

Roll tonight's shitter bros

[Anonymous No.15992449]

>>15992448
Go!

[Anonymous No.15992450]

>>15992427
I don't think this is very accurate. Rolex already makes over a million watches a year, and has already invested heavily in the R&D to develop the capital equipment to facilitate them being able to make so many watches per year at their quality level. I don't see any reason that Rolex would be unable to ramp up production further by 10, 20 or even 30% with the market demand being there.

Omega's problems weren't the consequence of volume per se but rather that the Swatch Group conglomerated them into the same manufacturing chain that was producing Tissot/Hamilton/Mido/Certina/Longines etc. while still trying to charge near Rolex prices. It's taken Swatch 20 years to begin to unfuck the damage they did to Omega by turning them into mall shitters, but Rolex is proof that you can manufacture large volumes of watches to very good quality standards, so I don't think that volume was the issue per se.

[Anonymous No.15992455]

>>15991787
>Downsides are that the movement only syncs on the Japanese frequency so you need an emulator app and a speaker to get it to radio sync
???

Doesn't it have worldwide radio sync, what the hell?

>>15991921
>There are a few watches that i really like that i decided not to go for because they only sync in japan and china.
Until now I was under the wrong impression that they all have global sync, which ones are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.15992456]

>>15992430
There’s no getting around the fact that it has been so endlessly ripped off that it now looks identical to countless other shitters.

TAG is in a piss poor state but last year they hired Carole Forestier, who was the genius behind revolutionizing Cartier’s watchmaking division. Under her, Cartier produced their first Geneva seal watch 9 years after she took over. If she can do that, then she can fix TAG.

[Anonymous No.15992460]

>>15991793
>>Paul Thorpe is very interesting. He’s a retired watch dealer who almost exclusively makes videos on Rolex.
Dude looks like a British criminal, tattoos, steroids, fake hair, "posh" but still "street" demeanor, basically like a higher end thug who managed to legalize his "business" at some point.

[Anonymous No.15992462]

Can someone ID the watch the guy in the video is wearing?
https://youtu.be/SIxyFfixX6Q

[Anonymous No.15992470]

>>15991787
>an emulator app and a speaker
>a speaker
How do radio signals travel from the speaker to the watch?

[Anonymous No.15992476]

>>15992460
This is just laughable. The guy had a firearms dealer license. You don’t get one of those in the UK if you have ever had a brush with the law. I don’t know where this rumor came from but it’s totally absurd.

[Anonymous No.15992482]

>>15991988
>I doubt they are.
Why do you doubt they are? Do you know how long this takes to settle officially? They'll wait years for it to be over, you can't just get the shit randomly because you said so in the meantime.

Rolex is completely in the right here, and when the court case is over, the watch will end up where it's supposed to unless people sperg out during it and prolong the entire thing like the dumbass already did.

[Anonymous No.15992487]

>>15992427
Yes I know, thats why I said Rolex is smart. But the scarcity is not a natural result from lack of capital, ressources or labour. Its deliberately created to make the watches more desireable, that was the whole point I was making.

[Anonymous No.15992489]

>>15992383
So VC it is

[Anonymous No.15992491]

>>15992176
I really like it, I was going to get it until I saw the bullshit price.

[Anonymous No.15992493]

>>15992388
It looks like their current catalog is all divers but I'll take a closer look and see what I can find - thanks for the tip!

[Anonymous No.15992494]

>>15992318
>what does cuckaxial even mean?
Omegas coaxial movement completely shits on everything Rolex produces, so our resident Rolex fanboys had to come up with an epic meme word to cope

[Anonymous No.15992496]

>>15992482
The guy said it was stolen 6 years ago and is in the hands of lawyers, not the police. If the criminal investigation was ongoing the police would keep the watch as evidence. Ownership is no longer in dispute if the original owner conceded ownership to the guy who unknowingly bought a stolen good.

Furthermore you say
> the watch will end up where it's supposed to
Is that before or after the lawyers keep it for 5 more years for seemingly no reason? You’re kidding, right?

[Anonymous No.15992501]

>>15992455
>Doesn't it have worldwide radio sync, what the hell?
No, the Citizen Eco-Drive H100 movement only radio sync's on the Japanese transmitter frequency, and models using that movement are only sold in Japan.

Since it's easy to emulate that radio signal today it's not really that much of a problem anymore, but it used to be a dealbreaker for lots of JDM radio sync watches.

>>15992470
I just looked it up, and apparently radio sync emulators work by using the wires to the headphones/speakers and the speakers voice coils to generate a localized audio signal on the correct frequency for syncing.

[Anonymous No.15992504]

>>15992462

[Anonymous No.15992505]

>>15992455
>which ones are you talking about?
I was specifically talking about a few Asian market only casio MRS-G models but there are some citizens as well, you have to be a bit careful when buying radio watches from those JDM watch dealers.

[Anonymous No.15992516]

>>15991648
spbp

[Anonymous No.15992526]

>>15992361
>Skagen
Which one? I bought this but i don't wear it much because the legibility is shite. Can't tell the time in the sun, can't tell the time in the dark, can't read the date. It does look rather good as an accessory though.

[Anonymous No.15992533]

>>15991787

>citizen
>titanium
>eco-drive

BASED. Mine has been going strong for almost 11 years now.

[Anonymous No.15992534]

>>15992456
>Carole Forestier
She's also very hot!

[Anonymous No.15992539]

>>15992505
>>15992501
That's honestly a very stupid feature, the entire point of radio sync should be that you can get instant correct time for whatever timezone you travel to.

[Anonymous No.15992541]

what position does Jenni enjoy the most?

[Anonymous No.15992544]

>>15992476
>You don’t get one of those in the UK if you have ever had a brush with the law.
You don't really get one if you're not part of some kind of mafia either. Legalized mafia is still mafia.

[Anonymous No.15992551]

>>15992496
>>Is that before or after the lawyers keep it for 5 more years for seemingly no reason?
Yeah. Unless you bribe someone to get it done quicker, that's how it works in the entire world, you have to wait for bureaucracy to finish its shit, and you only prolong it by sperging out and causing for more shit to be added to the proceedings.

[Anonymous No.15992552]

>>15992541
Freeriding YouTube monetization off of simps even though every single opinion she has about watches is utterly insipid and had been covered by literally every other watch youtuber already.

[Anonymous No.15992554]

>>15992501
>audio signal
You mean a radio signal? So it turns your speakers/headphones into a radio transmitter?
So if a neighbour has a radio controlled watch you could fuck up his time by transmitting the wrong signal to him?

[Anonymous No.15992555]

>>15992544
Take your meds

[Anonymous No.15992556]

>>15992462
>>15992504
Pretty sure its this
You can tell by the way the case attaches to the rubber strap - its very ap

https://www.luxuryofwatches.com/audemars-piguet-royal-oak-15450or-oo-d002cr-01/?gclid=CjwKCAiA1eKBBhBZEiwAX3gql0dYvsdZcQo0Vv7w4YmLBCjuZlVR7StnTOFton6yayBn58PPLWSf0RoCC0QQAvD_BwE

[Anonymous No.15992557]

>>15992552
>every single opinion she has about watches is utterly insipid
what do you mean by this? can you give an example I don't really watch her stuff cause I don't trust women with anything regarding information

[Anonymous No.15992561]

>>15992554
The signal it generates is extremely localized, it's unlikely to affect any watches even a foot away, much less next door..

[Anonymous No.15992563]

>>15992534
is that a super rare forester?

[Anonymous No.15992566]

>>15992551
I’m pretty sure this is bullshit. Rolex doesn’t even own the watch. What legal authority do they have to hold it?

[Anonymous No.15992572]

>>15992561
>The signal it generates is extremely localized
Yeah i thought it would be. I just got the idea from the old Casio remote control watches where we would sneak up to peoples windows and change their channels wherever possible.

[Anonymous No.15992575]

>>15992448
A collection of mexican gardener's watches that you could find at Ross for $69.99. Was one not enough?

[Anonymous No.15992585]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEmKU-3HzrY

>oh wow, a decent looking watch that might actually be an alternative to luxury bullsh-
>it's 30-50k

LMFAO

[Anonymous No.15992587]

>>15992448
Roll

[Anonymous No.15992589]

This is pretty tempting, it's a decent quality fake 60s rolex but with a sterile dial and an NH-35 instead of some chinky fake rolex movement.
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005001845323439.html

[Anonymous No.15992590]

>>15992587
Nice! I got a Citizen!

[Anonymous No.15992600]

>>15992566
>Rolex doesn’t even own the watch. What legal authority do they have to hold it?
They could hand it over to Italian police instead if you would prefer. Then it would be gone forever since some detective would "loose" it

[Anonymous No.15992622]

>>15992600
At least that would make sense. It would make a lot more sense to return it to the UK police to give back to the owner.

[Anonymous No.15992632]

>>15992391
No I never do. She knows I didn’t like it yeah. She’s not delicate about it and knows me way better now so of course and wouldn’t buy me a watch these days, she knows I’d rather pick my own. >>15992526
I don’t know, it has an orange dial and a mesh steel strap.

[Anonymous No.15992664]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUT25d2gHtM

Oh wow a decent looking watch that might...

9k

LMFAO

[Anonymous No.15992680]

>>15992589
That doesn’t look half bad, although I wonder what the build quality of the shell is compared to a San Martin or a Pagani. San Martin has a shitty chink movement right

[Anonymous No.15992714]

>>15991649
Omega rubber straps are nice! Recommend!

[Anonymous No.15992731]

>>15992664
Man Breitling's have such trash external finishing for their price point that it's really embarrassing. The hands are flat, stamped, with totally raw edges. The dial indices are lozenged to shit blobs, the dial printing (except the chapter ring) is cheap stenciling rather than pad printing, the case is has just been hit all over with a high speed buffing wheel, as has the bracelet. The side strakes on the case are the only effort put into external finishing anywhere on the watch. This shit is inexcusable on a $9k watch.

[Anonymous No.15992780]

>>15992680
>San Martin has a shitty chink movement right
San martin uses NH-35 movements in their rolex homages, they offer the choice of a very good quality chink ETA copy or a reall selita SW200 in some of their other models.
The thing that interests me in the one i linked is that it's a copy of the old submariner case. Evwn the vintage diver model from san martin is a black bay 58 clone case with and old styled rolex dial and hands in it.

[Anonymous No.15992802]

>>15992714
is it larping to wear one on another watch?

[Anonymous No.15992852]

What's your daily?

[Anonymous No.15992856]

>>15992852
A G-Shock because I work with my hands

[Anonymous No.15992865]

bros, why wont rolex sell me a watch? :(

[Anonymous No.15992881]

>>15992865
Because artificial scarcity is the main driver of their business model in the current year, retards eat that shit up.

[Anonymous No.15992897]

What's wrong with Tactico again?

[Sieg !NP2jUmGKeo No.15992902]

>>15991637
tried on an omega today, i miss that heavy stainless steel feeling of a nice watch.

been rocking a smart watch for years but I think I'll miss the features.

allows me to 2- touch time things like bbq or laundry....listen to music or podcasts and track vitals to use with the power meter...

[Anonymous No.15992906]

>>15992902
nobody cares you fat ugly faggot

[Anonymous No.15992911]

>>15992897
The price
Also the one you posted which is easily their best model was a limited edition of 88 and is totally sold out.
In fact unless some other retailers have stock only two of their watches are available for purchase.

[Anonymous No.15992920]

>>15992902
You better have an apple watch, every other smartwatch is absolute garbage.
And if you have an apple watch you better have it on their link bracelet, it's one of the best bracelets on the market for any watch.

[Anonymous No.15992933]

>>15992802
It would trigger me personally to have a Omega strap on another watch.

[Anonymous No.15992940]

Can anyone id this watch?

[Anonymous No.15992945]

>>15992911
Well fuck. Why do they do that?

[Anonymous No.15993010]

>>15992902
Jesus fucking Christ gayest thing I’ve heard on the gay part of a gay hentai blog

[Anonymous No.15993022]

>>15992389
stop being a watch snob
its a stowa
how bad can it even be, at worst its a sw200 inside

[Anonymous No.15993104]

>>15992731

well said. Nothing at a cursory or in-depth look on this watch is worth $9k.

[Anonymous No.15993110]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBlrP57fwB0

[Anonymous No.15993122]

Hnnng

So tempted to buy this for myself for my bday

[Anonymous No.15993124]

>>15993110
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... *thinking*

[Anonymous No.15993126]

>>15992933
This specific seamaster reference on the strap, fuck me it looks good.

[Anonymous No.15993133]

>>15993124
What happened?

[Anonymous No.15993143]

>>15993124
What does it mean?

[Anonymous No.15993150]

Anyone knows a 150$ under watch for army that is elegant not tacticol but sturdy and decent features?That chink watch looked kinda good

[Anonymous No.15993161]

>>15993150
Does elegant just mean non tacticool? A citizen eco drive would be a good bet.

Id hardly call a fleiger elegant if your talking about the escapement time watch

[Anonymous No.15993167]

>>15993150
if you are actually for real going into the army i will recommend a cheap digital casio (with a good backlight) so you wont feel bad if it gets beat to shit

[Anonymous No.15993178]

https://youtu.be/yGb6Spa4Ffg
the only non shill reviewer. he's just fucking rich

[Anonymous No.15993185]

>>15993133
>>15993143
the cuck aussie fears the american bull

[Anonymous No.15993188]

>>15993178
>buy a role-

no

[Anonymous No.15993227]

>>15991655
Only good for coping myself that expensive watches are just hype and branding. The terrible finishing or absolute lack thereof on watches costing 5k+ is just laughable.
Like Omega saving .00000000003 CHF per watch because they dont dips the whole seconds hand in red paint, only paint the top and leave the bottom raw metal.
Could you normally see it? The hands are thick enough to reflect the bottom of the seconds, so eh.

And for a guy that compares everything under the sun and his own mother to Rolex, he sure doesnt like to show off the movements never ever.

[Anonymous No.15993228]

>>15991741
Ordered one of these last week and I'm scared shirtless about it not arriving.

[Anonymous No.15993235]

>>15993228
where did you order it from?
not him but i also ordered one from their website, they got the address wrong 2 separate places on the package, and I got a call from the local post office asking me about it.

And it came in a really shitty padded envelope with zero protection. But It did arrive eventually in the end. After like 1 month plus, to SEA.

[Anonymous No.15993254]

My watchmaker serviced my 24h Raketa North-Pole watch the other day and made a video about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyvcGtroL74

Strap suggestions welcome!

[Anonymous No.15993261]

>>15992534
>>Carole Forestier
>She's also very fat!
ftfy

[Anonymous No.15993263]

What are the most affordable 38mm dive watches?

I'm not a fan of SKX013 or Islander. Preferably sapphire crystal.

[Anonymous No.15993267]

>>15993185
>the cuck aussie fears the american bull
He's Scottish dumbass.

[Anonymous No.15993268]

>>15993263
What's that on the left? Demagnetizer?

[Anonymous No.15993269]

>>15993263
There's that one new RLG Odyssea coming out which looks pretty neat

[Anonymous No.15993270]

[Anonymous No.15993281]

>>15993270
I liked that fat fuck till his Vostok video, retard didn't even know you can handwind them. Instantly lost all credibility.

[Anonymous No.15993282]

>>15993269
>Odyssea
It's a bit larger at 39mm

[Anonymous No.15993299]

>>15993282
1mm is literally nothing
1mm is 0.04 inches

[Anonymous No.15993300]

>>15993235
From their website, too. Honestly, that sounds bad but not like a horror story, even if it's a little bit more than a month. I guess I'm used to buying on Amazon, where you get updates and tracking all the time, that is all.

[Anonymous No.15993309]

Why don't hamilton use this logo on all of their watches?

[Anonymous No.15993312]

>>15993300
yea, it wasnt terrible or intentionally malicious, it was more like slavs being slavs. maybe even a bit charming. (protection for a delivery that was going over 2 continents? what is that?). The watch packaging got very banged up and one of the seams split wide open, but whatever, the watch itself was fine.

[Anonymous No.15993313]

Based 90s Timex for me today.

[Anonymous No.15993317]

>>15993309
Why dont hamilton make watches smaller than 40mm?

[Anonymous No.15993320]

>>15993317
Because they don't sell well

[Anonymous No.15993324]

>>15993320
>look it up
>38mm
>old ETA beating at 4hz
>sapphire
>$480

these are still in stock?
wow

[Anonymous No.15993331]

>>15993324
>Question:Does this watch come with the new 80 hour reserve Hamilton movement?
>Answer:Yes it is the new H-10 movement it is also very consistent with +3/-2 Seconds per day which at this price point is outstanding.
By ozzie on December 3, 2019


fucking dumbass, its a downgrade

[Anonymous No.15993390]

>>15993124
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.15993395]

>>15993390
That he doesn't want to review the Islander, I'd say.

[Anonymous No.15993431]

>>15993254
Cool video, that guy has a crazy watch tester.
Put it on a black perlon

[Anonymous No.15993436]

>>15993124
>reviews the islander fairly, pointing out flaws if they exist
possibly gets hatemail/downvotes/backlash/YT drama

>reviews the islander unfairly, covering flaws if they exist and shilling the watch
damages his credibility

there is zero upsides for reviewing those watches. Or maybe hes reserving plans for launching his own microbrand?

[Anonymous No.15993438]

>>15993263
Cerina makes one i think.
Otherwise lots of microbrands, baltic, lorier, that super vintage looking model from seals watches
If you like the handset the hudson 38 from maen is on of the nicer affordable options, available with and without a date window, pic related
https://www.maenwatches.com/collections/hudson-38-automatic/products/hudson-38-automatic-date-jet-black
https://seals-watches.com/collections/sea-storm-dive-watch

[Anonymous No.15993459]

>>15993431
>Put it on a black person

[Anonymous No.15993468]

>>15993436
>Or maybe hes reserving plans for launching his own microbrand?
i doubt it. launching a microbrand requires a certain level of commitment. there's a reason most youtube shills only sell watchstraps.

[Anonymous No.15993470]

>>15993124
>>15993436
I can already tell he will criticize it for the silly logo and pretty much stolen seiko parts. The fanboys would be butthurt even if he was 100% right.

[Anonymous No.15993477]

>>15993436
he can't be the shitter king without reviewing the ultimate shitter watch

[Anonymous No.15993516]

>>15993436
He can't review the islanders when he was just telling people to buy an skx for $300+ dollars a few weeks ago.
>>15993470
He has no credibility to criticize knockoff designs, he loves chinese clones of seiko watches, he has reviewed at least half a dozen of them.

[Anonymous No.15993523]

>>15993516
The problem is that most of the watches he reviews come from faceless microbrands, so he can criticise them as heavily as he likes with no consequences, long island watches has a pretty large online presence and has a not insubstantial number of YouTube subscribers, criticising a watch from them would no doubt cause a whole load of bullshit drama and Jody probably knows that and wants to avoid it.

[Anonymous No.15993536]

>>15993523
Yeah you are probably right too bad i would really love to see him review the SARBjust

[Anonymous No.15993537]

Cop or not as my first "all around" watch? SEIKO Presage Automatic Cocktail Time Espresso Martini SRPE17J1

Open to recommendations for similiar watches for around $500.

[Anonymous No.15993541]

https://youtu.be/vaHLvNdaIj0
embarrassing. i hate joggers

[Anonymous No.15993543]

>>15992054
Sweet. I can check my cat watch, while wearing cat sunglasses and a cat t-shirt while i talk on my cat phone and drive my cat excavator.

[Anonymous No.15993560]

>>15993537
The persage is a great choice but get one of the 38mm models, they are a much more appropriate size for that style of watch.
I really like the SARY181 SARY183 and SARY165
Look at the SPRE41 and the SPRE43 also the SPRE45 SARY179 SARY177
There are a bunch more one here too
https://www.sakurawatches.com/watches/seiko-watches/filter/19-collection,seiko-presage
Make sure to check the prices on ebay as they are frequently cheaper than that website

[Anonymous No.15993575]

>>15993537
kinda dressy and lack of sapphire but dont let that stop you, its very effay watches

[Anonymous No.15993581]

>>15993560
Oh the SARY149 and SARY147 is also a good option

[Anonymous No.15993625]

Well I did it, I swapped out my club for a club. Its had to show in the photos but the dial is a metal pear navy.

[Anonymous No.15993636]

>>15993625
That seconds hand looks fucked.

[Anonymous No.15993697]

Spring is coming lads

[Anonymous No.15993703]

What even is a "Presage?"
Is there any Presage that is better for having that word on the dial?

[Anonymous No.15993704]

>>15993697
Gorgeous dial

[Anonymous No.15993718]

>>15993703
>Presage
A fancy horse parade
>Is there any Presage that is better for having that word on the dial?
Aspergers or full on autism?

[Anonymous No.15993722]

>>15993718
In English "presage" means a warning of things to come. An omen. Why would you put that on your watch?

[Anonymous No.15993735]

>>15993636
Yea, it looks okay but the light can catch it and the Rose gold blued a bit, no big deal. The seconds hand is so small in reality.

[Anonymous No.15993737]

>>15993735
But isn't HOMOS known for their attention to detail? What the fuck?

[Anonymous No.15993759]

New thread
>>15993756
>>15993756
>>15993756

[Anonymous No.15993769]

>>15993735
I did buy it used so, who knows. 45% off the original price, I'll take it.

[Anonymous No.15994115]

>>15993722
>presage
>an ominous fancy horse parade
Sounds about right

[Anonymous No.15994167]

Looking to get this as my first watch. Thoughts?