/wt/ - Watch Thread

[Anonymous No.15961960]

Microbrand World Timer Edition

This thread is about the appreciation of watches and their design, their history, and the engineering and materials that are required to make a functioning timepiece.

Guides:
> Poorfag guide: https://m.imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK
> Watch essentials 102: https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV
> Purchasing used watches: https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2
> Purchasing straps: https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE

Should I buy this MVMT / DW / "minimalist" fashion watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

Should I buy this Armani / Michael Kors / mall watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/Sw1FsAn

"Suggest a watch for me."
> Your budget
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
> Wrist size or desired watch size

Old: >>15959000

[Anonymous No.15961972]

Fuck you, I like it.

[Anonymous No.15961978]

>>15961972
the problem with bell and ross isn't the designs (except the skull one that's mega cringe) it's that they seem a bit overpriced. they should probably sell for half of what they do. this applies to much of the swiss watch industry

[Anonymous No.15961988]

>>15961972
There's only four screws on the face of this thing, they couldn't bother to align them in some sort of symmetry? Ugh.

[Anonymous No.15961999]

Snowflake in the snow.

[Anonymous No.15962001]

>>15961972
I like it too but I'm too poor for it.

[Anonymous No.15962036]

>>15961972
Did you have Covid?

[Anonymous No.15962039]

>>15961972
Their best watches are just rebranded sinn. Pic related is one of their few cool originals .

I hate their square watches so much why pay more for a 556 a dial in a big bloated case?

[Anonymous No.15962049]

>>15962039
Also the br05 could have been cool but they fucked up the design so badly woth the out of proportion bezel to dial it looks ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.15962066]

Looking for a cheap durable beater I can wear when hiking/going to the beach or when I'm going out partying in the summer and get drunk that does not look like a total autism / kid's watch like the FW91.

All I can think of is Casioak or anf efv100 / efrs108. Any other suggestions /wt/?

[Anonymous No.15962072]

>>15962039
https://www.finnies.com/watches-c4/br-v2-92-heritage-black-dial-rubber-strap-41mm-p41590

This exists and it's pretty nice looking.

But you can get a Monta which has more water resistance and looks nicer and also has a GMT for 2k, and no one knows what either B&R or Monta are, so...

https://wornandwound.com/review/review-monta-skyquest-gmt/

[Anonymous No.15962088]

>>15962066
Personally a big fan of the Casioak - my style tends to veer much dressier, so having something that I like the look of that I don't mind beating up has been a huge godsend.

Failing that, most of the lower-end edifices fit what you're looking for pretty nicely, I think. I actually prefer their looks to the cluttered shit at the high end.

[Anonymous No.15962091]

Camera is shit but lorier neptune doing maritime work as intended

[Anonymous No.15962097]

>>15962066
>>15962088

Just thought of another one - Citizen Promaster tough is solid, and I'm personally a big fan of Eco-Drive.

[Anonymous No.15962098]

>>15962091
Nice Omega replica.

[Anonymous No.15962106]

>>15961988
they have aligned screws on most things, not sure why that one doesnt have it. Maybe it is to be more...authentic?

>>15962039
B&R has a million more times character than sinn
yes they make luxury shitters but they do a lot of fun cheeky stuff
sinn is boring max with boring autism dials

[Anonymous No.15962110]

>>15962098
homage at best

[Anonymous No.15962114]

>>15962098
omega is too busy shitting out soulless MOON WATCHES with fake ass patina than to make nice watches like that

[Anonymous No.15962115]

>>15962072
Yea, I have found myself looking at the heritage watches. I liked the look but found the "heritage" aspect off-putting. They were founded in 1992. What heritage is there?

I'm by no means a heritage fetishist but the leaning into the non existent flight associations and non existent heritage feels cheesy and fake.

It all feels overly larpy like bremont.

[Anonymous No.15962124]

Would really love one of these. Probably very fucking expensive by now.

[Anonymous No.15962136]

>>15962124
TWO BEZELS???

[Anonymous No.15962141]

>>15962091
the bracelet is honestly very comfortable and surprisingly good quality, one of the best parts of the watch

[Anonymous No.15962147]

>>15962106
*aligned screws*

[Anonymous No.15962152]

>>15962106
>B&R has a million more times character than sinn
Half their dials borrow heavily from sinn and the other half look like squashed panerai numerals slapped on without a second thought.

If you think charging over 11k for a tarted up lazily skeletonised eta is "million more times character" then I can only assume you've suffered sever brain injury.

The only original idea bell and ross gave is their ugly square cases.

[Anonymous No.15962173]

>>15962152
>can't spell severe
nobody even knows who sinn is
B&R are willing to do lots of fun stuff like this
what does sinn even do? sell a sw200 with a boring ass dial for $1000+?
imagine paying for that when you can get a san martin flieger for $200, lmao OHNONONONO

[Anonymous No.15962177]

>>15962106
>Slaps a sinn cockpit clock on a band and based and company around it

Quit simping on anonymous tibetian caricature forums for uninspiring french watch brands.

[Anonymous No.15962195]

>>15962173
If your only argument against me is a typo and "lol whos sinn" then you're retarded.

More people know about fossil/mvmt/vincero than roger dubuis it doesn't mean shit.

Buy a fucking bell and ross no one gives a shit

[Anonymous No.15962211]

>>15962177
>implying they invented to 3 6 9 12 layout
>implying they didnt rip it from rolex
>>15962195
i'd much rather have a brand who's willing to do all sorts of far out stuff than a brand whos churning out the same FLAT ASS boring 'muh minimalism' cardboard dials for $4000

[Anonymous No.15962215]

If you're buying a watch from a brand that doesn't engineer/manufacture its own movements in-house then literally nothing matters about it except the aesthetic design and the cost.

HOWEVER, for what it's worth I have a friend who got a Bell and Ross watch that was inaccurate as fuck and subject to several warranty claims before he convinced the dealer to let him return it and and buy an Omega instead. So in my eyes Bell and Ross is complete shit.

[Anonymous No.15962221]

>>15961999
checked and based

[Anonymous No.15962224]

>>15962215
>blaming the brand for a 3rd party movement
are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.15962228]

>>15961999
Check, and based, but that is WAY too big for your girly basedbean wrists.

[Anonymous No.15962231]

>>15962224
Well, often the brands themselves perform QC, adjustments, etc. Their name is ultimately on the watch so the buck stops with them if they let a shit inaccurate movement out of their factory

[Anonymous No.15962234]

>>15962224
Not him, but you'd expect them to at least regulate the damn thing. Especially when you're paying kilodollars.

[Anonymous No.15962236]

I really want a two-tone submariner how much do they go for used

[Anonymous No.15962239]

>>15962231
>>15962234
>>15962215
>oh no my watch is 10 seconds slow today i cannot live!
should have told your friend to buy a quartz watch if he cant handle mechanicals

[Anonymous No.15962240]

>>15962211
Oh my god that looks like shit. Are you legitimately trolling now. You can't seriously be posting that in defence of bell and ross.

You have the most pedestrian opinion of "far out stuff" I've ever seen. Just fuck off and go masterbate to producer Michael twatting about in some quartz jacob and co shit.

[Anonymous No.15962247]

>>15962239
It would lose and gain several minutes per day, not a few seconds.

[Anonymous No.15962249]

>>15962247
Yea minutes per day is pretty unacceptable at any pricepoint, let alone a few thousand.

[Anonymous No.15962252]

>>15962240
there is no value in not trying
even if its "ugly" there is value because they are willing to experiment and try
design is always about pushing the envelope
its far more brave than someone who just sticks to the same old shit

[Anonymous No.15962254]

>>15962239
If you paid thousands for a watch that loses 10 seconds a day straight out of the factory and you're actually OK with that and defending it then you're a fucking retard. -10 seconds a day is pretty egregious for a watch that expensive

[Anonymous No.15962256]

>>15962228
It looks slightly less ridiculous in real life and not close-up with a 28mm equiv phonecam lens, but I agree. At 40mm it's the largest in my collection, and a hair away from "too large." Kinda wish I'd gone with a different slightly smaller SD now, but me and this watch have a lot of history now, can't abandon her. :) I'll try to bulk up senpai.

[Anonymous No.15962259]

Someone post that sinn with the misaligned hour hand.

[Anonymous No.15962260]

All these people shitting on bell and ross whilst one anon who must be out of desperately types out replies to them all defending them.

[Anonymous No.15962265]

>>15962254
>thousands
>expensive
>thinking 10 seconds is a lot

you have never bought a watch in that price range

[Anonymous No.15962271]

>>15962240
>shitting on J&co
why? because *you* dont like their designs?
they are actually very innovative for a luxury brand

[Anonymous No.15962276]

>>15962254
> 10 seconds a day is pretty egregious for a watch that expensive

[Anonymous No.15962277]

>>15962252
A green second hand and a multi colour chapter ring is "far out" and "pushing the envelope "

>value because they are willing to experiment and try
They are watch designers their only job is to fucking design something that doesn't look like shit. If you went to Mcdonalds and the making your burger took a shit in it you wouldn't go give him a pat on the back and tell him well done for pushing the envelope

[Anonymous No.15962284]

>>15962259
Id suggest someone post the ugly fucking bell and ross but you're doing that all on your own

[Anonymous No.15962287]

after a nato with v decent bead blasted hardware in 20mm
any recs? can't find any that have it in stock anywhere. the actual material of the nato is irrelevant since I'll be pulling the hardware out and putting it in a custom nato
picrel unrelated

[Anonymous No.15962288]

>>15962277
looks are subjective and that watch is clearly not made for you
people who buy stuff like that DONT WANT safe designs
they want flashy edgey stuff
thats B&Rs clientele
>but but its ugly to me! my opinion matte-
not an argument

[Anonymous No.15962296]

>>15962276
>>15962265
Keep fucking samefagging; it's hilarious dude. You realize there are many watches cheaper than bell and ross that are chronometer certified, right. Chronometer certification means the movement ran at no worse than -4/+6 per day for a period of two weeks in five different positions. If you're LOSING 10 seconds a day your watch is literally 60% worse than a watch that meets the very basic standard of chronometer certification

[Anonymous No.15962300]

>>15962260
Of all the brands to defend, he decides to die on the hill of Bell and Ross. Imagine being him.

[Anonymous No.15962305]

>>15962296
>using the word 'dude' unironically
>being this autistic about accuracy on a mechanical
>muh muh COSC

you should just stick to gshock

[Anonymous No.15962307]

I really wish I had the money to buy big boy brands, I can barely plan a purchase of a Breitling, a Zodiac, and a titanium G-Shock and then when I add them up it would've been better to buy a cheap Rolex :(

[Anonymous No.15962308]

>>15962305
Keep defending this shit brand dude it's so awesome

[Anonymous No.15962311]

>>15962296
>samefagging
10 seconds is nothing. Seiko does that all the time. People buy watches for lots of reasons and if they didnt set out to buy a watch for accuracy it wouldn't even matter.
>>15962308
>passive aggressive
peak reddit

[Anonymous No.15962313]

>>15962307
Only if you like the rolex more. Personally I think I would enjoy a couple of entry level watches more than 1 rolex. It's different for every. Just think hard about what is important to you.

There are some cool rolex models however i think the entry level ones are all rather uninspiring.

[Anonymous No.15962315]

>>15962259
both of these watches are showing the same time

[Anonymous No.15962318]

>>15962311
Find one seiko in B&R price range that preforms close to +/-10 seconds a day.

[Anonymous No.15962323]

>>15962296
You are a fucking idiot and have zero idea why people buy mechanical watches. They couldn't care less if its +/- 10spd

[Anonymous No.15962330]

Mechanical watch fags are cucks that settle for blatantly unreliable timekeeping

[Anonymous No.15962339]

>>15962330
No one cares about your opinion. We'd all settle for this no matter the accuracy.

[Anonymous No.15962342]

>>15962330
not wrong, but this general doesn't want to hear it

[Anonymous No.15962347]

>>15962318
entry b&r is like 1.4k on joma
plenty of seiko divers like the 62mas reissue or captain willard are at that price and they all have 6r35 which is rated for - 15/ +25

[Anonymous No.15962355]

>>15962330
People who buy paintings settle for inferior representations compared to people who buy photographs

[Anonymous No.15962367]

>>15962330
you are not that important where 10 seconds will matter in anything
a watch doesnt need to be accurate to the second it just needs to be 'good enough'
adjusting a watch from time to time is like trimming the plants in your fish tank, its part of the hobby

[Anonymous No.15962376]

>>15962313
Yeah honestly my ego can't stand $2-5k watches being called "entry level" fuck this industry.

[Anonymous No.15962388]

>>15962376
It's almost as if they were luxury goods, the emphasis on luxury.

[Anonymous No.15962391]

>>15962339
No, I wouldn't want a watch that looks like that if it didn't keep good time. The entire function of a watch is to keep good time. The beauty of watch making is in the engineering marvel of a watch operating entirely mechanically and yet still keeping good time.

[Anonymous No.15962394]

>>15962376
The entry point is relative to the brand. Entry point Seiko? $100-300. Entry point Rolex? $2-5k. No need to get hurt feefees.

[Anonymous No.15962404]

>>15962391
What’s your point with all this REEing? Can you post some damn watches instead of bitching and moaning to no visible end?

[Anonymous No.15962413]

>>15962394
>Entry point Rolex? $2-5k.
>Entry point Rolex? $2-5k.
>Entry point Rolex? $2-5k.
1995 called and it wants you back

[Anonymous No.15962419]

>>15962339
*raises paw*
i meowdn't

[Anonymous No.15962425]

>>15962413
A brand new OP is like $5.5k. You can find a vintage Air King or Oyster Precision or something more on the $2-3k end of things.

Here's a very cool patina'd speedking for $3.5k from a not-so-cheap vintage dealer: https://www.bobswatches.com/rolex-speedking-6020.html

[Anonymous No.15962429]

>>15962413
Here's another for $3k from Joma.

[Anonymous No.15962434]

>>15962413
$2500 on plebbit.

I rest my case.

[Anonymous No.15962438]

>>15962388
Lambo is an "entry level" luxury car yet I've never seen a Lambo owner call it that way, or anyone else call it that in front of him.

[Anonymous No.15962440]

>>15962429
why do people want a shitter rolex so fucking badly?

[Anonymous No.15962443]

Is it based or is the dial too cluttered?

>first automatic chronograph
>first space watch, before the Speedmaster

[Anonymous No.15962452]

>>15962440
idk, market forces? That's not one I'd ever choose, I also think they're massively overpriced for janky old folded link bracelet ass watches, but I'm just saying there are entry level Rolexes at the price point I mentioned.

[Anonymous No.15962458]

>>15962443
My friend's dad has one like this, it's incredible. Supremely based, better than a modern Breitling IMO. This one has some weird mismatched lume between the dial and handset, probably replacement/relumed hands. But this ref. is so cool. 24hr dials are nifty.

[Anonymous No.15962471]

>>15961972
I like this too.
I just wish it was a little more reasonably priced

[Anonymous No.15962482]

>>15962471

>30min chornographs

Why are these a thing? I see so many nice Chronogrpahs that are ruined by this. Is it so hard to make it a 12hr and add an hour hand to the dial?

[Anonymous No.15962484]

>>15962376
You're making the mistake of assigning importance to anything watch autists say. They are a miserable bunch. Wear what you like and all else is unimportant.

[Anonymous No.15962486]

>>15962236
A lot

[Anonymous No.15962490]

>>15962236
There's a website called chrono24.com that will answer a lot of your questions. Also watchrecon.com.

[Anonymous No.15962499]

>>15962482
I don't pretend that it's the perfect watch, I just like how it looks more than anything.
But because of its price I probably won't get it, it doesn't really seem to be worth it

[Anonymous No.15962536]

>>15962471
>screw down pushers
lol

[Anonymous No.15962552]

>>15962311
>>15962323
The idea that mechanical watch buyers, especially in that price range, don't care about accuracy if categorically false. There is a reason that many of the big watch brands in the $3,500+ price bracket certify their watches to chronometer standards or better.

Plenty of people still rightly regard the accuracy of mechanical movements (when compared to other mechanical movements) as an indicator of the care and attention the company puts into making its watches.

>>15962339
Lange takes chronometric accuracy more seriously than any of the other main high horology watchmakers, so you didn't pick a very good example.

[Anonymous No.15962560]

I want it, bros. I would be my first watch over $360 and my first Swiss Made Automatic.

It's not that expensive, functional, and I think it looks awesome. Any reason I shouldn't have this as my everyday watch?

[Anonymous No.15962569]

>>15962560
It's a solid choice

[Anonymous No.15962573]

>>15962560
How thick are these? The marathons are really growing on me. Is the artic available without the gov markings on the dial?

[Anonymous No.15962577]

>>15962560
You'll see when you put it on, it's very unwieldy. And unless you're a lumberjack it will look like a massive LARP.

[Anonymous No.15962601]

>>15962569

Thanks. The only thing that bothers me is the date. I wish it didn't have one, but it is useful. It looks so clean otherwise.

>>15962577
They make a 36mm version. I think it will be fine.

[Anonymous No.15962650]

>>15962388
>It's almost as if they were luxury goods, the emphasis on luxury.
>Not emphasis on Good
Casio still reigns supreme

[Anonymous No.15962675]

>>15962482
funny, i think twelve hr chronographs are stupid. if you are timing anything for that long, you would use something other than a wristwatch to keep track

[Anonymous No.15962681]

>>15962560
>Any reason I shouldn't have this as my everyday watch?
Just wrap a cooking pot to your wrist

[Anonymous No.15962684]

>>15962601
They're legit super thicc. But go for it, you can always resell it. People like them. Try it out.

[Anonymous No.15962723]

>>15962684
>super thicc
14 mm, but the lugs are as low as they'll go so it makes it look even thiccer.

[Anonymous No.15962735]

do you guys ever catch yourself wishing you got a different color combo of a watch? how do you cope/get over it?

[Anonymous No.15962756]

>>15962735
Sell it, get the color you really want.

[Anonymous No.15962800]

>>15962735
I take years to make a decision, so I don't really have regrets
Otherwise >>15962756

[Anonymous No.15962978]

Rank em!

[Anonymous No.15962984]

>>15962978
>all 3 date windows look like complete shit
kek

[Anonymous No.15962985]

>>15962978
222 > *

[Anonymous No.15962991]

>>15962978
>Nazi Cross at the 12 o'clock position.

Cringe.

[Anonymous No.15962993]

>>15962978
Fuck the Overseas
Marry the Nautilus
Kill the Royal Oak

[Anonymous No.15962996]

>>15962985

Based!

>but those tool marks on the hands

[Anonymous No.15963007]

>>15962978
They’re already in the correct order.
>>15962984
Agreed.

[Anonymous No.15963010]

>>15962978
3 2 1

[Anonymous No.15963013]

>>15962978
If someone put those three watches in front of me and told me to pick one of them, this would be my ranking:
>Nautilus
>Royal Oak
>Overseas

Because that’s their ranking by secondary market value. I would keep the Nautilus, sell the other two, and then buy a couple of other watches I’m more interested in.

If someone asked which one I would buy with my own money, I would rank them as follows:
>Overseas
>Nautilus
>Royal Oak

Because the Overseas is the smartest buy of the three for someone, like me, who isn’t particularly interested in this style of watch.

In terms of design, I’m torn between the Nautilus and Overseas. I like the look of the Overseas but the bezel and bracelet design are a bit too busy for my liking. On the other hand, I like the dial of the Overseas more than the Nautilus.

I also feel like the Overseas is becoming a bit of a meme and I don’t like meme watches.

Lastly, the Royal Oak is shit.

[Anonymous No.15963014]

>>15962996
>tool marks
Could just be corrosion.

[Anonymous No.15963027]

>>15962560
makes me think of the game marathon

[Anonymous No.15963049]

>>15963027
based

[Anonymous No.15963052]

>>15962978
Looks: AP > VC > PP

Quality: VC > PP > AP

Value: VC > AP > PP

[Anonymous No.15963053]

>>15962978
>>15962985
I'm autistic so I'd still rather have a 17000 Oysterquartz than any of them.

[Anonymous No.15963073]

>>15963053
Are you the anon that just bought an oysterquartz?

[Anonymous No.15963079]

>>15963073
No, though I do plan to buy one eventually.

[Anonymous No.15963097]

>>15963073
That’s me.

[Anonymous No.15963109]

>>15963097
ugler than i thought it'd be.

[Anonymous No.15963120]

>>15963053
>>15963097
These would look so much better without a date or at least without the cyclops. Could be said for all their offerings with the cyclops...

[Anonymous No.15963131]

>>15962978
GP Laureato

[Anonymous No.15963150]

Did any of you autists actually get one of those chink fliegers that were being memed for weeks?

[Anonymous No.15963153]

>>15963097
Nice anon, good pickup

[Anonymous No.15963166]

>>15962978
I started out loving the RO but over time the nautilus has grown on me more but I would take a 5712 but in reality would buy a RO as it's obtainable for me. VC would be my last pick and would probably take a daytona over it.

[Anonymous No.15963168]

For me, it's pure weapons grade Chineseium or nothing at all

[Anonymous No.15963190]

>>15961972
they just took the exact face off a citizen ecodrive and painted their own logo on it.

E101-S064783 is a close reference but with a date window

[Anonymous No.15963191]

>>15962091
>>15962141
Decent. Almost bought one but went with a Baltic due to sapphire crystal. If I was gifted a Lorier I would be happy though.

[Anonymous No.15963195]

>>15962287
bump

[Anonymous No.15963202]

>>15963166
>100ft=30m
fucking choking with laughter

[Anonymous No.15963206]

Trying to decide on one of these Aragon watches for a summer beater, but not sure which. Leaning toward the white dial/bezel, not sure tho. Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.15963214]

i fucking hate pin and collar adjustment on my samurai, i spent an hour trying to put the tiny collar in and can't, i rage quit. hate the watch now. wish it came with simple pins or screw links. fuck a casio royal bracelet adjustment would be a huge upgrade to pin and collar for me.

[Anonymous No.15963218]

[Anonymous No.15963230]

>>15963206
I agree, bottom right is coolest IMO.

[Anonymous No.15963237]

>>15962978
Nautilus - for smart or dress.
Royal Oak - casual wear.
Overseas - if I want to go in the water.

[Anonymous No.15963239]

>>15963150
This autist did. Delivers on what's advertised. Pretty stupid amount of watch for $99 delivered. Strap was predictably garbage but being 20mm is easily replaced.

[Anonymous No.15963244]

>>15962287
https://countycomm.com/collections/watch-bands
The best basic natos/zulus I've ever bought.

[Anonymous No.15963249]

kind of want a more high end diver but then i'd be paranoid about damaging it and wear it significantly less than i'd like

[Anonymous No.15963253]

>>15963244
that doesn't tell us much if you don't share what you've bought before

[Anonymous No.15963255]

>>15963249
Gotta remember wear actually looks good on tool watches. If you're not going to resell it then buy the watch you want and embrvace the wear.

[Anonymous No.15963261]

>>15963244
none of these look bead blasted

[Anonymous No.15963292]

At what point does a watch go from "mid range" to luxury?

[Anonymous No.15963303]

>>15963244
I really like the Crown & Buckle Supreme NATO, great hardware, super smooth seatbelt grade nylon. Feels premium.

[Anonymous No.15963304]

>>15963206
Orange dial

[Anonymous No.15963312]

>>15963253
Most of the random Amazon brands, Barton/Ritchie etc, and BluShark.

But more specifically, they're really durable, feel great, not seatbelt level feel on wrist but has more substance.

[Anonymous No.15963315]

>>15963218
Too bad that Zenith doesn't exist in a non-gay version with a display back.

[Anonymous No.15963317]

>>15963292
Kind of a blurry line I guess. I think something with some movement finishing / in-house mov't. Mid range would include unimproved lower tier ETA ebauches. Mid-range is probably $1k and under, generally. But I'm sure you could argue about it endlessly. That's what forums are for after all!

[Anonymous No.15963320]

>There are few, if any, good watches between $1,000 and $3,000
I’ve said it before and hope I never have need to say it again: the vast majority of watches that fall in this price range are pure, unadulterated rubbish. Even the best of the lot put a polish on a $100 machine-made stock movement and drop it into a Chinese-made case and then, since the back was tightened by a Swiss housewife earning some part-time money, they put “Swiss Made” on the dial and mark it up 400%. If you just want something to tell time and match your last season’s Kenneth Cole shoes, go right ahead. But don’t have any illusion that you’re getting a fine watch.
> And finally, I will repeat what I have written in the past: There is no watch between $1,000 and $3,000 that is worth buying. Not one. In fact, it is a stretch to find more than a worthy handful under $7,000. I’m not sure why this comes as any surprise to readers, who continue to cry foul and sing the praises of inferior watches. My commitment to fine timepieces is well known, yet you continue to submit questions about $1,000 watches. As I said above, there are other websites you can visit and bloggers to read that will happily tell you what a fine watch you can get for a week’s pay. So don’t come here looking for the same drivel. You don’t see men’s fashion sites or magazines advising their readers to buy their suits from off-the-rack warehouses (or “wearhouses,” as the case may be). So if you seek advice about haute horlogerie, I am at your service. But for those who persist to beat the same drum of mediocrity, prepare to be ignored.
Holy BASED, /wt/ BTFO

[Anonymous No.15963321]

>>15963261
>>15963303
again not bead blasted

[Anonymous No.15963351]

>>15963292
I draw the line at in-house movements, some level of decent machine movement finishing, a good level of external finishing, and a $3,500+ price-tag for luxury.

For me, mid-range is the $750 - $3,500 with few reasonable value options and many overpriced shitters.

[Anonymous No.15963352]

>>15963239
Anyone know how these compare to say Tisell's?

[Anonymous No.15963361]

>>15963320
>/wt/ BTFO
/wt/ has been warning people about most watches in the $750 - $3,500 range being overpriced shitters for damn near 10 years, so I don't know where you're getting the idea that /wt/ doesn't agree.

[Anonymous No.15963362]

>>15962425
Opening up a huge can of worms with 60 plus year old watches, they aren't going to seem so cheap after service costs. Also most of these vintage models are 34mm or less which is pretty undesirable.

[Anonymous No.15963367]

Holy shit this looks epic as fuck. Better than Breitling and Sinn!

[Anonymous No.15963369]

>>15963321
Are you particularly focused on how reflective it is?

[Anonymous No.15963372]

>>15963362
Eh, depends on the long-term reliability of that brand's movements. There are lots and lots of 50 and 60 year old watches that just need a ~$150-250 service from a skilled independent watchmaker and they're ready to go. Just requires you to do you research and know what you are buying.

[Anonymous No.15963380]

is $700 too much for a quartz chrono from a microbrand?

[Anonymous No.15963381]

>>15963369
no but its going on a bead blasted hamilton and it'll look retarded otherwise

[Anonymous No.15963388]

>>15963380
yes

[Anonymous No.15963393]

>>15963381
I had one on a bead blasted Smiths and it matched perfectly. I wouldn't be concerned.

[Anonymous No.15963396]

>>15963380
>farter

[Anonymous No.15963398]

>>15963393
Speaking of, that was a cool fucking watch. The PRS-40 is dope. If only I weren't a wristlet I'd still have it. The NE15/6R15 was accurate to +0/day over the 3 months or so I wore it, no joke.

[Anonymous No.15963403]

>>15963380
Not if you really like it and it's built well.

[Anonymous No.15963407]

>>15963320
>There is no watch between $1,000 and $3,000 that is worth buying. Not one. In fact, it is a stretch to find more than a worthy handful under $7,000.
Yes, goy. Spend thousands on pointless jewelry.

[Anonymous No.15963413]

Post cat + watch

[Anonymous No.15963414]

>>15962573
It's sinn retard thick, I think auto is over 14. quartz slightly less so. It's more so how the bezel sticks out the case itself sits reasonably low. I actually like how it adds a bulky presence despite being a small watch in 36mm version.

[Anonymous No.15963435]

>>15963393
>>15963398
I appreciate it but my autism will not tolerate it. it must be bead blasted.
nice smiths tho

[Anonymous No.15963456]

>>15963380
Does it have a decent movement?
If it's one of the ETA quartz movements from one of the higher end lines then it's not an unreasonable price as long as the quality is good.

[Anonymous No.15963457]

>>15963381
The black nato CountyComm has a titanium version, pretty non-reflective. The normal version isn't too bright either. Random crappy nato, and the two CountyComm l-r.

[Anonymous No.15963470]

>>15963457
>must be butt-blasted

[Anonymous No.15963497]

What is this and how much is it? It looks epic as fuck.

[Anonymous No.15963498]

>>15963361
Are you kidding? I’d say at least half the watches posted in these threads fall in that range. Another half are below $1k micro shitters which are totally devoid of any value, though at least they’re honest about it.

[Anonymous No.15963499]

$4k for one of these Kuronos. Has an 8R48 in it, which you can find in a SRQ029 for $3400-4000, so actually seems like a decent deal. The finishing is certainly there. Would any of y'all scoop this when it launches on the 20th?

[Anonymous No.15963500]

*ahem*
I only buy Casio and Vostok, anything over $100 is a scam.

[Anonymous No.15963503]

>>15963320
Who said that?

[Anonymous No.15963507]

>>15963498
Yes, well these threads have gone to absolute shit since they were forced on /fa/, but for several years prior to that it was the consensus opinion on /wt/ that most watches in the $750 - $3,500 pricerange were too be avoided.

[Anonymous No.15963510]

>>15963499
No because it's retarded limited edition bullshit just like all their stuff, it's just meant to be a hype release so that people get familiar with the "real" watches they produce which cost 10x or more.

The last few releases were sold out in like 5 minutes after the site went up and down a few times, so good luck.

[Anonymous No.15963511]

>>15963497
>how much is it?
Too much
https://www.merairterre.com/en/collection/26-furtive-chrono.html
They do make this based egg timer (pic related)

[Anonymous No.15963512]

>>15963507
There's some high end tool watches for 1000 to 1500 that are worth it tho. See sinn.

[Anonymous No.15963516]

>>15963511
>https://www.merairterre.com/en/collection/26-furtive-chrono.html
AHAHAHAH WHAT THE FUCK is this a joke, I thought it was like $200 like Vostok Amfibia since it doesn't look any better than that.

[Anonymous No.15963518]

>>15963507
If we're talking new watches, that's not actually terrible advice. But vintage you can find a ton of awesome shit in that range (and under).

[Anonymous No.15963522]

>>15963512
Most =/= all

>>15963518
Obviously that rule of thumb only applies to new watches. Vintage is a whole different ballgame.

[Anonymous No.15963530]

Is this a chronograph? If so, where is it? If not, then what are those two pushers for?

[Anonymous No.15963531]

>>15963522
I mean like it or not the price point has to exist or the market for luxury watches wouldn't exist. Nobody is going to buy a casino followed by a rolex, gotta bait people in there. Is it for plebs maybe, but for as many midrange shitters exist there are many luxury shitters going for 10k plus, panerai, hublot, any fashion house watch that isn't cartier. Nobody wants to get on their case though.

[Anonymous No.15963534]

>>15963531
Casio*

[Anonymous No.15963538]

>>15963457
>>15963470
fuck it, ill buy a 20mm clasp thats bead blasted and have the keepers made out of leather. It'll be more comfortable anyway
>>15963499
that helvetotypical font at the bottom holy shit thats god awful and doesn't suit the rest of the dial
and unless you wanna flip it, these are not worth the money if you ask me

[Anonymous No.15963542]

>>15963516
Yeah they seem very overpriced
1.5k would be more reasonable for that watch, it's also fucking huge
>Diameter: 44mm
>Thickness: 16,5mm

[Anonymous No.15963549]

>>15963531
It wouldn't be an issue if more watchmakers would actually produce models with vaguely reasonable price to quality ratios in that price bracket.

Below $1k you have some okay options via microbrands and some semi-decent Swatch group options, but Seiko's in the $500 - $1k area have become much worse values than 5-10 years ago.

Above $1k and below $3,500 you basically have Damasko, Sinn, Nomos and not much else worth a damn until you hit the Tudor BB58. I would be thrilled if more companies would actually try to make decent watches in this price bracket, but due to various market forces there isn't much incentive for companies to try it.

[Anonymous No.15963560]

When will it get the love it deserves?

[Anonymous No.15963582]

>>15963549
Yeah seiko has lost the plot. They have cool shit 1500 plus jdm but at that point you are nearing grand seiko money anyways.

[Anonymous No.15963585]

>>15963549
>>15963582
I forgot to mention Citizen's Chronomaster line for those interested in HAQ quartz.

[Anonymous No.15963588]

>>15963560
I don't even like it that much but I think it's the ultimate flex rolex not counting diamond models. Nothing says "I'm a rich retard" like a rolex with YACHT MASTER plastered on the bottom.

[Anonymous No.15963618]

Why didn't anyone tell me these existed? They look great.

[Anonymous No.15963625]

>>15963549
Id hesitantly include Oris in there as well

[Anonymous No.15963628]

>>15963618
Yeah now check the price.

[Anonymous No.15963650]

>>15963628
...

Seriously what the fuck? It's a fucking Seiko, I can get a real watch for that amount of money, are they insane?

[Anonymous No.15963655]

>>15963625
Agree, despite archie talking shit they are definitely climbing up the ranks. They are charging too much for their in house calibre but the brand is certainly going In a direction that is elevating it's status and the opposite is the case for most watch makers.

[Anonymous No.15963660]

>>15963655
I don't know why I actually don't like them as much as I do. But they are heading in the right direction, I definetly agree. But fuck, so many brands are going completely in the wrong direction that if they stay put they will become major players

[Anonymous No.15963665]

>>15963650
There are cheaper spring drive grand seikos I'm pretty sure. The Prospex pricing is out of whack in a lot of places.

Meanwhile, this sexy beast is under $500.

[Anonymous No.15963666]

>>15963549
the oris big crown pointer date @2k is one of the nicest watches under 5000$

[Anonymous No.15963669]

>>15963665
I'm not buying a Seiko ever again after seeing that scummy cash grab bullshit.

[Anonymous No.15963670]

>>15963666
It's very nice but just makes me want a vintage Benrus more.

[Anonymous No.15963681]

>>15963669
which scummy cash grab bullshit. theres been a few

[Anonymous No.15963689]

>>15963560
What does the 0 to 10 gauge do?

[Anonymous No.15963695]

>>15963689
penis pump timer

[Anonymous No.15963706]

>>15963628
>>15963650
The Seiko LX models are basically made by Grand Seiko and use undecorated GS spring drive movements but have Seiko design language and branding.

I think most of them are also ugly, but that's besides the point. I find the diver intriguing though.

[Anonymous No.15963713]

>>15963706
Giant-ass crown.

[Anonymous No.15963717]

>>15963706
What do you think of the grand seiko diver?

[Anonymous No.15963722]

>>15963717
way fuckin nicer than that LX imo. Nicer finishing, nicer bracelet, nicer crown, nicer everything.

[Anonymous No.15963723]

>>15963706

That's a good looking functional diver. Not flashy at all, but looks quality. A Rolex is flashy.

The spring drive is tits, and I'd definitely buy one over a sub, especially with the price they are going for.

>>15963713

It works. It's offset which is kind of a Seiko thing now, and being offset it allows it to be bigger, which works for function. I wish more brands did this as a crown digging into your wrist sucks.

[Anonymous No.15963724]

>>15963530
literally says chronograph in the filename

[Anonymous No.15963725]

>>15963722
Yeah it's pretty nice, i don't hate the LX line but it just isn't as exciting

[Anonymous No.15963727]

>>15963706
Dude it's a fucking Seiko.

[Anonymous No.15963729]

>>15963724

So where is it? I just see a second hand. It only times up to 1 minute? For what purpose?

[Anonymous No.15963736]

>>15963729
100m sprints on the deck of your yacht?

[Anonymous No.15963740]

>>15963727
and? seiko is probably the top 5 most accomplished watchmaker there is

[Anonymous No.15963743]

>>15963740
Pay up the ass then, your problem. Seiko is a $50 watch to every normal person.

[Anonymous No.15963749]

>>15963743
$50 seikos dont exist anymore
and you're retarded if you cant understand why those watches are at that pricepoint
seiko makes watches for every price tier

[Anonymous No.15963754]

>>15963749
>seiko makes watches for every price tier
Why?

[Anonymous No.15963758]

>>15963754
why the fuck not?
a $10 casio is a watch
a $250,000 janet droz is also a watch

[Anonymous No.15963782]

>>15961978
yes goyim, spend your hard earned shekels on our overpriced junk. Good goys

[Anonymous No.15963784]

>>15963758
Alright, where's the $10 Droz then?

[Anonymous No.15963785]

>>15961999
checked
based
lift some fucking weights, bitch arms

[Anonymous No.15963792]

>>15963717
Personally, I prefer the LX diver because it looks more toolish and because it uses more of Seiko's historical diver design language.

>>15963722
The LX and GS Diver are made in the same place by the same people. The GS Diver is just styled to be more luxury looking.

>>15963727
Seiko is two huge watch manufacturers spanning several separate production chains at different quality levels, and sometimes certain departments will make models for other lines, like GS making the LX line or Credor's Micro-Artist Studio making some of the more high end GS models.

Seiko is almost as if a Swatch type watch conglomerate operated most of their lines under the same name. Seiko makes everything from cheap Seiko 5's to haute horlogerie minute repeaters and tourbillons.

[Anonymous No.15963800]

>>15963784
>brands have to stick to a price tier
you realise most brands have a range of offerings right?
gshock makes 50 dollar watches to 1k
oris makes 2k watches as well as 10k ones
rolex makes watches from 6k to 500k

[Anonymous No.15963807]

>>15963800
So there isn't one, gotcha.

[Anonymous No.15963813]

>>15963807
you are retarded
droz is part of the swatch group and the entry market is covered by swatch, filk flak, CK, tissot and hammy

[Anonymous No.15963815]

>>15963813
Ok find me a $50 Tissot then.

[Anonymous No.15963818]

>>15963815
>entry market means $50
stay poor

[Anonymous No.15963821]

>>15963818
It does for poorfag brands like Seiko so yeah good job proving my point.

[Anonymous No.15963823]

>>15963815
entry market is anything under $500 and the cheapest tissot is $200 which is about the price new seiko5s are at
L2watches

[Anonymous No.15963828]

Wonder how Seiko has mismanaged their core $100-500 lineup so badly in the last few years

[Anonymous No.15963837]

>>15963828
>he is retarded and forgot about alba, lorus and orient
stop seething that seiko isnt making $30 watches for your poor brazillian ass

[Anonymous No.15963849]

>>15962066
gshock

[Anonymous No.15963853]

>>15962147
The screws are supposed to be aligned. If they aren't it means it was opened or serviced by someone who doesn't know this. I used to own one

[Anonymous No.15963864]

https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/sinn-103-how-does-it-wear.5279664/

oof

[Anonymous No.15963868]

https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/fs-pre-owned-monta-skyquest.5280361/#post-53020900

What exactly is wrong with Monta, does anyone actually know anything about this Instagram brand? Who's behind it? Who's designing the watches? Are they from Chinese parts? Who's going to service it when it fails? And so on? Because out of all Instagram brands I really love their designs, they look extremely classy and well proportioned.

[Anonymous No.15963902]

>>15963868
>"swiss" made
you already know the answer

>The Skyquest features our MONTA caliber M-23 which is either a Sellita SW330 or ETA 2893-2 base movement. We add a custom rotor and our in-house watchmaker performs the final QC to ensure accuracy.”

its just the rotor so any watchmaker can service it

basically monta is like a more expensive zelos

[Anonymous No.15963922]

here's your milgauss bro

[Anonymous No.15963926]

>>15963922
Oof

[Anonymous No.15963945]

>>15962978
VC all the way.

There's just something about how that bezel frames the dial that gives the watch greater three dimensionality.

[Anonymous No.15963965]

https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/where-did-all-the-new-rolex%E2%80%99s-go.5280035/

[Anonymous No.15963969]

>>15963717
>SEIKO
>GS
>GRAND SEIKO

not cuz I give a shit but to cut the lunch of that annoying guy who always posts that

[Anonymous No.15963971]

>>15963722
The LX has better finishing than the GS diver.
See pic; the round GS hour marker has radial marks all around it that seem to be machining marks.
The LX hour markers are much nicer.

The cases both have zaratsu, so no difference there.

No idea what you mean by nicer bracelet and nicer crown; it doesn't make much sense.

[Anonymous No.15963990]

would you buy a watch from Theo and Harris?
they are offering a watch I want for a good price

[Anonymous No.15963994]

>>15963706
>>15963717
>>15963722
>>15963725

The LX is basically an MM300 that's given GS finishing.
It's a much better design than the GS divers.

[Anonymous No.15963996]

>>15963868
they have good finishing, decent enough movements and some have gilt dials. if it s a good price second hand, sure why not. heard that they've had some nqr qc before but eh, I mostly have seikos so what do i know
>>15963965
kek, this is some nobad boomer shitposting
>>15963990
if its a good price and he doesn't decide to wear it for a week before shipping it, sure. what you looking at.

[Anonymous No.15963997]

>>15963922
bojler eladó

[Anonymous No.15963998]

>>15963990
They're all about vintage watches, right?
What watch are you looking at?

[Anonymous No.15963999]

>>15963965
I find the whole situation extremely tiresome, and I’m not even trying to buy a Rolex. Honestly at this point it seems like boomers jerking each other off while the smart people just buy Omega and JLC instead. You have to have a very low degree of self respect to allow yourself to get dragged along by some AD faggot for the privilege of spending $10k on a watch.

Don’t get me started on the Daytona topic, what an appalling example of human greed and stupidity.

[Anonymous No.15964004]

>>15963999
Checked.

Rolexes at retail are generally in a weird price point for me.
They're in the middle between equivalent tool watches that cost less (Omega, Tudor, ...) and actual high horology watches with hand-finishing (Urban Jurgensen etc.).
And yes, the Daytona is a monstrosity at this point.
Those molten blob hour markers are an affront to god.

[Anonymous No.15964008]

WTF is this logo?

[Anonymous No.15964009]

>>15964008
standing paizuri

[Anonymous No.15964033]

>>15963999
It's not just boomers anymore, the instagram generation is huge on expensive wristwatches.

[Anonymous No.15964053]

>>15963990
what's the value proposition?

[Anonymous No.15964065]

>>15963999
>>15964033
Your just seeing an artificial influx of them. I work at a corner store like 7/11, I usually only see smart watches or some sort of quartz. Over the course of years I've only seen maybe 5 legit luxury watches. Rest are usually mall fashion timex casio seiko etc

[Anonymous No.15964067]

>>15964065
>I work at a corner store like 7/11
lmfao fix your life loser no wonder you see shitters on subhumans

[Anonymous No.15964068]

>>15964065
Your average 7/11 customer isn't going to be wearing a luxury watch lmao.

[Anonymous No.15964074]

>>15964067
I have a job
>>15964068
Just saying my pov is based irl vs Instagram

[Anonymous No.15964084]

>>15964074
me:
>the instagram generation is huge on expensive watches

you:
>not really because I don't see many expensive watches at the 7/11

[Anonymous No.15964087]

>>15964084
Good job you learned how to summarize

[Anonymous No.15964088]

>>15963655
Dubs of truth

[Anonymous No.15964089]

>>15962330
>>15963743
>>15964065

What's with the literal retards itt?
Are we being raided?

[Anonymous No.15964092]

>>15963655
in house designed. since they've gone to some lengths to make the distinction.
still interesting though. don't dig any of the designs but they are trying in a way most brands aren't

[Anonymous No.15964105]

>>15964089
>Are we being raided?

[Anonymous No.15964119]

>>15961999
>Wristlet

[Anonymous No.15964149]

Talk to me about NASA straps, the shorter version for normal wear.
Which brands are gud, which are shit, what is the maximum price you would spend on one?

[Anonymous No.15964156]

>>15963168
>diver watch
>30m WR

[Anonymous No.15964182]

>>15963499
>.
not an 8r48. An ne86a movement

[Anonymous No.15964194]

>>15963500
Based, same but I'm considering a Luch when a friend of mine gives me some money he owes me.

[Anonymous No.15964197]

>>15963689
It Dougs

[Anonymous No.15964267]

should I buy a Seiko 5?

[Anonymous No.15964282]

>>15964197

[Anonymous No.15964307]

When will Seiko make a thin 38mm dive watch with sapphire and ceramic bezels?

For the love of God just do it already. Oris literally came back to relevance after being bankrupt tier solely because of their vintage diver.

[Anonymous No.15964314]

>>15964267
The stats aren't worth MSRP, but if you like how they look, it's about what YOU like.
Do explore alternatives if you haven't already. Orient, Citizen, Glycine to name a few

[Anonymous No.15964318]

This makes my PP big PP

[Anonymous No.15964320]

>>15963499
To hard to read the time

[Anonymous No.15964323]

>>15964320
speling to hard

[Anonymous No.15964324]

>>15964318

[Anonymous No.15964325]

>>15963990
No, it triggers me that he wears the watches while they are for sale.

[Anonymous No.15964335]

>>15964325
Boy, you do not want to buy a used car from a salesman, then, either. They drive them and abuse them while "on the lot".

[Anonymous No.15964352]

>>15964335
Watches should be wond every month, no one ones to buy a used car that's been sitting 6 months, abuse no.

[Anonymous No.15964354]

Posting peak taste again

[Anonymous No.15964399]

>>15964318
>>15964324
> $9,100
Good watch but overpriced for what it is. It's ~30% more than similar from Rolex, Omega or JLC.

[Anonymous No.15964403]

>>15964399
>It's ~30% more than similar from Rolex, Omega or JLC.
It's 30% better finished than Rolex, Omega, or JLC.

[Anonymous No.15964408]

>>15964403
The movement finish is on-par with JLC so you're basically paying $3k extra for the dial.

GS were a great value buy verses their competitors but that no longer seems to be true.

[Anonymous No.15964412]

>>15964408
>so you're basically paying $3k extra for the dial.
And case, and bracelet, and hands.

[Anonymous No.15964417]

>>15964399
>Dial
>Macro finishing
>God-tier polishing
>Hi-Beat
>Still 80Hrs power Reserve
Acceptable price, imho

[Anonymous No.15964421]

Do vostoks look good irl? Because on photos they look like cheap toys.

[Anonymous No.15964422]

>>15964421
They look the same as the photos.

[Anonymous No.15964428]

>>15962287
Honestly, cheapestnatostraps. They have ones with brushed hardware that is pretty good quality. Brushed a few myself with very fine sanding paper as well and it makes me happier when I look at them, maybe worth a try.

[Anonymous No.15964429]

>>15963990
Sure, why not.
>>15964325
Lots of dealers do. Unless it's minty minty, I guess.

[Anonymous No.15964432]

>>15964307
>seiko
never

they might do a limited reissue of the skx with such improvements in the far future
only for the low low price of $2999
and people will buy it

[Anonymous No.15964479]

>>15964429
Yea I know, it's bad practice regardless.

[Anonymous No.15964512]

>>15963413
nice cat

[Anonymous No.15964515]

>>15964325
If you're buying a vintage watch with 10/15/30 years of use does another week matter?

I guess its an excuse to advertise them and show he is behind his picks by publicly wearing and endorsing them.

[Anonymous No.15964534]

>>15964421
Mine looks fine, dunno what to tell you.

[Anonymous No.15964544]

>>15963990
>good price
>Theo and Harris
>doubt.jpg

[Anonymous No.15964550]

>>15964421
Only ever held one and it looked and felt as cheap as in the pics. Not in a horrible way, it was a charming watch, it's not trying to be something it isn't.

[Anonymous No.15964556]

>>15964421
just get a vostok neptune or mod it.

that was how i felt about vostoks when i was new to watches. Now they look perfectly normal to me.

[Anonymous No.15964576]

>>15964515
Yea I get it, there is better ways to show your watches on your channel than to be wearing them casually.

Photograph watch>put watch up for sale>wear it>sell it>ship it

I own my own business selling high end used items and I can tell you I don't give my wife a chanel handbag to wear out for the dinner I have up in the store.

The man has his own watches and my wife has her own bags, do not use your product for personal use, good drug dealers would tell you the same thing.

[Anonymous No.15964585]

>>15964576
its easier to imagine how it'll look on the wrist if there are "model" photos
especially for vintage
i think itsz fine as these watches are "pre owned" anyway
if its brand new or even NOS then no

[Anonymous No.15964597]

Is there a specific name for the this type of bracelet in pic rel from the Irishman.

[Anonymous No.15964599]

Cop or not?

[Anonymous No.15964602]

>>15964599
Cop

[Anonymous No.15964603]

>>15964576
It might make sense to lend them to your wife if get had 80k+ followers on social media specifically following her for her taste in vintage handbags.

I get where you're coming from. I don't think I'd buy a watch from him but I don't think his casual wearing of stock would be the reason why.

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>>15964603
It might make sense to lend them to your wife if she had 80k+ followers on social media specifically following her for her taste in vintage handbags.

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>>15964585
Yea take a photo, make a short video showing them on the wrist like watchbox does.

I see videos of him walking about with them on. It's just bad business. It's one thing to wear and scratch your own watches but when you wearing and scratch watches your selling and they are going to scratched, does he retake the photos? I don't think so? Or polish out that drywall mark? Nice!

If I'm buying a £12-16k daydate I expect the best / professional service and him wearing it while it's for sale is in bad taste.

>>15963990
And I think he is getting out of the used watch game, his stock is a 3rd of what he use to have and he made a video a while back of how he now wants to focus on make story's for watch brands.

Then shills out his brand and followers to some AD and sends his customers to another retailer, fucking retarded.

Buy the seller!

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>>15964354
baste grail

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>>15963922
I’m mad.

[Anonymous No.15965860]

>>15964869
love the dial, hate the all-polish case

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>>15964597
bark bracelet I think